Everyone deserves competent legal representation when the state is talking about depriving a citizen of a fundamental liberty interest as important as the one in question here.
It's quite a lot, however, to impose on the family of one of the children's friends. It would be another thing if it were a family friend, friend of the mother, etc. Plus, you're banking on young children who are friends remaining that way in order to have peace in the household.
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Siblings don't always stay friends, but how things are structured in the home has much to do with that! Many "friend's" may have a healthy functioning home that is ready to invite a needy person in & show them what healthy looks like! Many foster & adopt successfully!
I fostered my nephew's friend, age 9 years and and his older brother was age 11 years. They were placed for five weeks. They stayed the eldest stayed until he was 18 years old and the youngest stayed until he was 25 years old and he passed away with cancer. They had a settled life with me and enjoyed doing things they had never had the opportunity to do with their mum. I was not a foster carer, and I was not a friend or family. As I had never met the boys. I had I checks for criminal records, etc. And police checks.
True but how good is she if she’s ok and working with a parent that’s obviously not doing their part. who is the kid going to be with the attorney or the mom. I couldn’t represent someone to get their kid back if they are not in a place to have their kid at all… period
ladies, you apparently know nothing about the correction in the court. This mother is broken, and that is intentional. Think about the weaponizing of our government that is being reviewed by congress; and just change "Republicans' to '"parents". The same power of a full government all agency's toolbox used to create a narrative of why children are better off in paid strangers custody. Would you be surprised to know every dollar cps spends, they get $1.80 or more back from fed title lV. Drug tests are not trust worthy either, every state in Union has been caught numerous times falseing results. They say whatever they want, never facts. Like the politians in charge today, they know some people believe whatever they read. Regardless of truth.
These women are scary. So slow off the mark and didn't know anything anyway. Could have had the whole thing wrapped up in ten minutes. The lack of time and consideration given to these kids is criminal and they're calling the mother negligent. Pot meet kettle.
I wonder what kind of education CPS workers have. Those case workers cannot have more than high school. The attorney Rankin seems totally unprepared. It’s ridiculous. I can’t imagine these people being in charge of any children. My God.
I don't think they have much, if any, education beyond high school. Certainly not enough training. I managed to raise 2 boys to adulthood without CPS ever being involved in our lives. Thank God. Because from what I have seen, once they're in your life they're not going away very easily. It makes me sick how many sh*try parents there are who can't even get it together long enough to get their kids back. The kids lose over and over again.
Maybe because of all the CRAP parents out there, they have to get cps workers in the system as fast as they can. These children of awful parents, can't wait 4 years for someone that will care about them more than their own parents to finish university.
@@ruz7951 it doesn’t take much for someone to have CPS involvement. Just an anonymous phone call from someone who has angry or wants to be vindictive. They can do it once a week and cps would have to be out to the house once a week. Due to things like this they are overworked and are overloaded with cases. That’s what causes them to actually be more neglectful than the parents that get calls against them.
@Megan Oliphant bullshit I make 32$/hr and I only have a HS diploma. Granted I have no record whatsoever and had to get a security clearance but that's simple
I’m half way through but ……., The attorney representing the accused and not present “mother” is pretty impressive. She hasn’t had any conversations with the mother but is lawyering her ass off! Wow.
Even if the mom was here only your lawyer speaks anyway you just go in court room only thing you say is your name you can not defend yourself in any way its an evil system for POS do nothings having a job while hiding behind your kids shooting at you with fake child's best interest they laugh in your face while taking them they lie on you to drag it out like a 500 times I will not talk in class writing assignment that you did while they afterwards rip it up in your face and throw it away they psychologically damage your family children if in their care your child usually abused molested trafficked even killed facts lay with 90% of human trafficking victims were involved with the system the Americans need to stick together to fight and fight the system until this evil is abolished and that's all their is to it or this tyranny won't stop
Contrary to many ppl’s perception, Public defenders are some of the best attorneys in the profession. They are true grunts, working mostly under pressure in stressful circumstances. They’re servant of their community.
God help the children who have these confused, poorly prepared adults & this dysfunctional system in charge of them. The judge is trying. Ms Fuller is terrible.
Totally agree & that includes this Judge. The whole bunch are a circus. God help the kids there. Watch Judge Alex Kim for 5 minutes and then you realize how truly bad this is.
You're a worthless person you can't tell that they're lying their lying about everything they're saying everything they're saying is premeditated there's no truth
The judge is and should be critical. These child care workers are acting like they don’t have a clue. If you take over a case then you gather all the information you can and have it ready for the judge. And if this is a case where the children have been removed then why the hell aren’t the home studies and background checks done within a week? The child care worker in green acts like this is her first day on the job!!!! TF! How the hell do these people expect the judge to do his job with no information upon which to make his decision?!?!
Not defending CPS or similar entities, however have you considered how overloaded the system is?? How rampant drug's are in our society? And that the fault should primarily with the irresponsible and neglecting parents??
I was thinking the same thing I don't think some of these people care about the well being of these children it's about I can do what I want and there's nothing you can do about it
I know as a grandma you place my grandchildren with a stranger id get a lawyer and be right at caseworkers office. Any loving grandma fight for grandchildren
Sounds like a lot of nothing has been done on this case. 5 professional women, advocating for these children and most of them have, “no knowledge” or “have not received the paperwork or emails”. What is the State and County paying for? Dugan wants the children placed with the Uncle but literally has no info on his, his partner or his home. If he was concerned about his sister/the mom doing drugs he still let his kids stay the night with his sister. If kids placed with Uncle/mom’s brother would he protect the kids from the mom? What a mess. These poor kids pulled into the depths of adult bs.
You can ask your State to allocate more money to child and family services! You can also vote blue to stop any further infringement on abortion rights! It's a very hard job. No excuse, but it's probably not incompetence and it's unlikely malice. It's a broken system. I wish more people actually looked at what happens. So many say protect the kids but don't follow through with action. So many kids in a broken system. Take care
@@hhunstad2011 Kind of in the same way all the Pro Life , have no desire to help raise these unborn babies. They just want to tell you what you can do with your body.
I'm a retired mental health social worker specializing in Level 1 clients both in the Child/Adolescent section and later in Adult section. Level 1 clients are the most chronic, severe cases involving multiple disciplinary teams - CPS, ADS, education, hospitalization, wrap around services, service/treatment plans, housing, medical, prison........... Based on my experiences, I have never met a CPS worker that was competent. For example, I had a family where the grandparents adopted their 6 grandchildren - various ages. They had decided to move out of state which was to be a huge benefit to the family. The problem was that the 15 y/o female wanted to stay with an aunt that lived in gang territory. Everyone on the team psychiatrists, school, myself and my team were against this. CPS prevailed so the 15 y/o was placed with the aunt. 2 days before the family moved to the 15 y/o was murdered in a gang fight. This was only 1 of many cases that I had with CPS and none of them was of benefit to the child/children.
As a Police Officer, I had frequent encounters with my state's CPS, all of which I found supremely frustrating. Once, a Worker saw my frustration and pulled me aside. She explained that while mandate of CPS was child protection, a secondary goal of the organization was to keep families intact, where possible. This often lead to conflicting priorities and apparent options being non-viable. As the old saying goes, what you see depends on where you stand...
Obviously things were not going well with the 15 year old that she wanted to stay with her aunt. So for all your services someone missed the boat on your end about what was going on with this teen. Calling ALL CPS workers incompetent in your experience makes me wonder if you ever understood the limitations, scope and realities of their job.
I’m not so sure this person didn’t find that there was something wrong with the grandparents. It’s a 15 year old girl. She obviously didn’t want to move away from her friends or whatever it was for her wanting to stay. 15 year olds don’t really have a great reputation for doing what is right over what they want. Her intention was to stay with the aunt. Who knows why honestly but it’s fairly evident her death is mostly on the poor kid and her choice. I made really stupid choices when I was that age. I’m surprised I made it to the age I am, 49, from the dumb choices I’ve made.
I feel bad for the 2engage lady after reading employee reviews about working there and how poorly trained and overworked they are and some terrible supervisors that aren't engaged. Sounds like a nightmare. Is nobody overseeing this organization that cares for children??!!
Judge sure was picking up on some inconsistencies & slip shoddiness! However, this worker would need serious training & supervision before I would feel comfortable with her in an oversight position! She needs a different career choice with all due respect! It is workers like this that end up allowing children to get hurt! Impressed by the Guardian Ad Litem though!
My opinion on placement.....just because the mom wants her brother to have the children, and he is willing to take them, it doesn't mean it's the best placement for them. Just because he IS the brother doesn't either. I know a few 'brothers' that I would never, ever let near my children. Blood relatives are not always the best choice.
Okay but you need to recognize that parents still have a right to choose the placement if they can find an appropriate one. If the police there at has had CPS involvement obviously that's not ideal. And if at all possible biological family should always be used over fostering to unrelated people, that's pretty much the policy in every state.
Depends on what your scale is…like what are the contributing factors to determine “best”. It’s well known that removing the children, regardless of how necessary it is, is traumatic for children. Having them placed with family members who they’re familiar with & love can minimize that trauma.
This is exactly how kids fall through the cracks. I’m sure that poor lady has a caseload that is impossible to keep up with. Make the attorneys do some of the leg work to see how hard it is.
Umm no. If you’re applying to a job you know requires you to have proof of everything you’re saying and know each child and parent completely with every drop of information, otherwise they don’t have the right to have children.
Also 2ingage Mrs Dugan stated early on she didn't do anything because she wanted to see the outcome if this very hearing. This is a huge problem like plain lazy. They are supposed to be working for the kids 24/7
Just had our grandson removed because we said we were not prepared to adopt because our daughter needed mental inpatient care die to psychosis, confirmed diagnosis. Suddenly the DA requested immediate removal for child being in unsafe environment. Ok to adopt but because we choose to try to get daughter medical mental care, protection order in place so this child is protected, but suddenly the child is unsafe because we are trying to help his mom and take care of him. Reunification seems to be the last resort
@@jenniferweddington9759 we are trying. CPS says if she tests neg for drugs 3x we can see him in their office, supervised. We did nothing but care for him since birth thru the NICU and everything. The last 2 tests she took were "lost" so have to start all over. Her last case with her other 2 kids she neg tested 80x and they refused her to see them . Grand parents have no rights in TX, weird because TX is such a Red bible thumping state grand parents would have some say. The court already will terminate regardless of what is done. Sadly the little guy will never know he has 2 sets of GPs, an older brother and sister. The state refuses to send a referral for a medical eval and or counseling. All they care about is neg drug testing. She had illness before but even us assumed it was drugs. After she lost her other 2 kids she sort of lost it and self treated with drugs because she went into full psychosis. She got pregnant and denied she was pregnant, she was so small and thin, didn't show at month 6. By 7 a bump bit we didn't see her month 7 or 8 then had a baby in motel bathroom. She freaked out at the hospital and couldn't believe she had a baby. AMA and she left. Father was told to leave the hospital and CPS came in and took him to another hospital. The father returned after he found her roaming along the highway and took her home but by then CPS took custody and he was escorted out of the hospital. All this info coming to light but if diagnosed with mental issue, forget it. I don't think people understand how difficult it is to get treatment for someone in psychosis. Unless they are hurting someone or in the act of hurting themselves you are helpless. Sure, ER for a day then they release or a week facility bit it is back on the street. All the state sees is drug use in the past so a druggie, danger to kid, terminate and adopt out. We could adopt but get no state assistance on top of supporting her and the kicker is the judge already mentioned a no contact order if the terminate on top of it being also if he is adopted so if we were to adopt she could never have any contact. Basically, we need to kick her to the curb and sacrifice her life for his unless we let go and let him get adopted to someone else.
Reunification is NOT their goal, ot matter HOW MANY TIMES they say it is. Over half of these children are in no danger at all, and simply have parents who struggle financially, and to keep us their homes while working with multiple young children. They will use anything to take a child and pretend it has suffered some imagined abuse, all the while, ALL of the children are confused and feeling angry because you just took the one person they could count on, out of their lives. They say there are times where it would be in the child's best interest to stay in the home even when there are issues. I believe this is true 90% of the time since only 2% of cases nationwide are actually for abuse. We arent free. Not in America. We are just as big of slaves now as the African Americans were back in the day. But in these times the separation comes due to social class. Poor people can't afford maids and nanny. Rich people have a spotless house at all times or the maid gets fired. Stop taking kids because you don't like someone's lifestyle. Take them when there is actual abuse. Actual physical damage. It damages a child to be taken from their home. When will you monsters take sresponsibility for all of the unabashed children who come into the system and end UP abused BECAUSE you took them from their parents?!?!
Exactly. The CPS lady finally came to see her. No family plan done, finally got some referrals, and she let slip that just prior to court they received info that we were "helping" her. Of course, wasn't a secret that we refused to sacrifice her for him. There is a way that both can be helped. I suspect they think she saw him and that scares them because she may eat him or something. No proof she is a danger.
I absolutely cannot believe they have not been to the brothers home! The kids are obviously close to their uncle, Jesus Christ people step up and get that done. They might very well be happier with him!
Yeah, I was thinking that her lawyer was on the ball. Way too often I watch these hearings and the lawyers are barely paying attention let alone making good arguments/objections.
@@ruz7951 Do you have children? It’s easily done you can find out how quick you can end up in cps court for nothing. All that’s needed is underage children at anytime in your care and an evil person.
It’s so amazing that we have these attorneys fighting to take these children from parents and punish them. But they aren’t fighting to make these social workers accept accountability for their incompetence. Take them from the families and allow THESE women to decide what’s best for them? Something is wrong with this system. How can you fight to take the kids and have NO WHERE for them to go.
Okay the lady from two engaged a literally said no we haven't staffed him as a placement we were waiting for the hearing. She literally explained it to you so clean out your ears
Ms Dugan gave the case study to her Supervisor and that person isn’t on the call?! They basically hung her out to dry. Not cool! It makes everybody look bad and the Judge doesn’t have any information to make a decision. The end of this ended up being a cluster!
I do hope by this time, the cps has improved on how they handle these cases. According to this, they have not done their job and considering their job deals with children, that's a pure shame. Someone needs to put a knot in their tail and get them to working correctly.
@@SweetPea112 I am retired and don't work for CPS. However, I do know that no profession is perfect and if it can be improved, it should be. Do you just like objecting to what people say or do you like trying to stir up trouble. I don't play that silly game.
That is just unacceptable when being responsible for children. It's also immature to show up to a court hearing smirking the whole time but utterly unprepared. Did not even try to do one step of work for these poor kids
@@amberstorm1139 I never understood the “CPS is childless” remark I have 4 kids but what does it matter if they have kids or not. This sounds like deflection from bad mothers
There is absolutely no excuse for any of these women to not know the information asked of them. I don’t care if these are new cases for them or not. Do your homework. Prepare for this hearing. How do you go to a hearing about placement when you haven’t done a home study of the home requested, or have gathered the information about the placement homes? WHEN SCHOOL BEGINS IN TWO DAYS! These people are not meeting the minimum requirements of their jobs. It’s embarrassing and unacceptable.
@@JulieannsSerenity It surely does. They had a moment to prepare though. This is serious business, and if I were a social worker, knowing I had a hearing that day, emergency or not, I’d prepare. I don’t think that’s asking too much of our public servants. The judges should have higher standards, requiring answers.
Different Court. 1 yr ago my friend's grandkids were taken from the home. Pal was in zoom attendance to all. Every hearing they were idiodic, uninformed, left hand and right didn't communicate, and the judge was rude, belligerent, and read into what family said what she wanted, refusing words at face value. I felt sorry for the family. 4 generations screwed around because the teenage had a stupid moment in a zero tolerance world.
It makes me crazy when I see these people. It seems like they do everything half ass at best, without even general follow up. It's no wonder so many people complain about services. These people have other people's futures in the palm of their hands, and don't really seem to care enough to do the job completely. They're displacing families. This is ridiculous that time after time it's the same thing. It's not frustrating, it's disgusting
@@dogggodcrusader7854 saying the mother is probably in jail, but saying THESE people are the criminals? Ironic. You're either a child, or someone that has had their kids taken. A drug addict has no business having custody of their children, so the mother definitely should have them taken away
Unfortunately everyone on this case have dropped the ball. Not communicating properly with ALL involved, the Judge is working in a very dark box, no information so he could've decided. I think they all need a course on team work and outline their duties. This hearing really did not accomplish much for these two children of any tangible value to move forward.
TFI is notorious for this. I worked for them till I couldn't stand their incompetence anymore. They never took responsibility either. They make their staff take the hits for then like miss Dugan here.
Someone is not doing their job any more than slip shod! The Mom's attorney is sharp! Legal Rankin is ticked thank goodness! Thanks for sharing! There is wisdom in a multitude of wise counselors! I really like Guardian ad litem, Morris! Rankin looks on top of it. Good job Judge!
Nobody wants to do their jobs, everyone wants to pass it off the someone else. These people should have all their information before the hearing, all interviews, studies, paperwork, and witnesses, that’s why these cases go on and on. Courts cut the people involved too much slack.
Why are we still doing things remotely? Why aren't we doing these things in person. That attorney works harder than the $50000 attorney I had. Family court is horrible sometimes.
Exactly nothing makes sense these people are lying they probably don't those children this lady probably f****** do still and then could they showed up positive that's how she gets the
These people can take children from their parents with seemingly low concern, but are not prepared with comprehensive information about these placements and possible placements for this hearing?? That’s typical of these government child welfare departments and I find it disgusting and disturbing. What a mess.
Amen well said thank u for soeskuling up this is out of control I can't believe the people who is supposed to be public servants are conniving n screaming beglhind people's baks n act as tho they have any right to stuck their notices where it never brlonged. A maxims in law is what man creates he controls therefore the fraudulent document state created called birth certificate that's on bond paper is n fact the only thing they control so parents give it to them it's not worth what harm they are perpetrating against our innocent baby's. These demons are sick sick twisted person's false gods !!!
Why aren't the Uncle, the families who have the kids, any counselors, anyone else being called in to testify? People's lives are being determined without accurate info. When I got custody of my granddaughter the process was much more precise. The court investigator was much more thorough. The great aspect was CPS was out of our hair once we got custody and fulfilled court requirements.
There’s no better feeling in the whole world than walking away from CPS with your grandchild. It doesn’t keep a parent from wishing it had never been necessary though.
@@lynnp9943 I made sure, even though at time it was very difficult, to keep the child's parents in her life. I knew that the child's needs were more important than mine and part of her needs included her parents, even if on a restricted basis. The mom was a teenager, abused and on drugs. If at all possible it was my privilege to assistant her in growing up without putting the child in physical or emotional danger. Many years I implemented strict access rules. Eventually mom and dad grew up. They are all doing well and we have a great relationship. The child is now a mom. Unfortunately no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't protect her from everything. But she's grown to be a phenomenal young woman, wife and mother. I am proud of both her and her parents, they too grew up to be strong adults who are taking responsibility. But, let me tell you, it was rough. I'm saying this to all the grandparents and caregivers. Don't forget your focus is primarily on the children but also, if your able, extend your hands in healing towards the parents. Edit: I re-read this and realized I left out my husband in the telling. Without his strength, guidance and love none of this would have been possible. No way.
The judge was a little unprofessional too in my opinion as far as being a little too glib or unfamiliar with terms. Why didn't he just call them out earlier on being unprepared for the hearing, order them to get the home study done by a specific date & reschedule,?
@@s.v.2796 there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t wish that road would have been possible for us. Our path was different. I hope that my grandson can be strong and keep remembering that it’s not his fault. For him it was normal to wear dirty clothes to school, eat out of garbage cans for lunch, and every day wait out in the heat for her to come home, if she did. It took years to get guardianship, custody, and ultimately adopt him. And idk what I would have done without my husband either. He was the steadying force behind me when I thought CPS had finally broken me. They went as far as placing him in foster care AFTER I had already had a home study and the whole evaluation. I do wish things could have been different. All I can do now is to be the best person I can be for him. Sometimes I wish I could be more of a grandmother and less of a mother. Grandmas are a lot more fun. I wish you all the best. We as grandparents are stronger than a lot of people realize. We have to be.
@@lynnp9943 I'm so very sorry. My heart breaks for you. I was so fortunate to have a son and daughter-in-law willing, trusting enough, or maybe just too young to not fight the system. This allowed me time to raise her. Because trust and believe me when they got older, and became to exert what they thought were their parental rights, they did enough damage in a couple of years to show me the potential of what might have been. Fortunately it was a very short time and the child was grown enough to balance love with knowledge. And we all made it through. Nonetheless, I'm so very, very heart broken. And please- I'm not coming from a place of "I'm so great." I'm in recovery. I was only two years clean when we got custody of our granddaughter. Although I didn't use around my kids, my drug use leaked into the world of my children and it did damage to them. I've been clean 28 years and I'm still making amends. Sometimes it's difficult to say everything on a comment. Sometimes I sound like I don't mean to. I'm not point fingers at you.
Relatives are not always the best. Anyone living in Colorado city should be suspect and investigated based on the religion practiced in the town. I would not place any child in Colorado city.
Reading the comments, there is no way I'd be able to watch this stream of these incompetent workers having to much power in their hands without becoming infuriated
Why. It’s apparent that 2engage has not provided any information to the guardian ad Litem or the court. The only incompetent person here is 2engage. The meeting is trying to make these children safe. 2engage is not doing its job.
I disagree with where they are now. If the kids are the same age and there is prior cps issues. That wasn't that long ago. I think the brother us the best option. It's not up to his sister because she has issues mist likely due to her drug use. Thus is how good family members get passed over.
How many children are in the news everyday dead because of these incompetent people? If those children are sooooo important to the parents as they always always claim to be why can't they make the choice to get clean, fight for their kids and be a good parent? Being an addict is a CHOICE!
If all the placements suggested were not fully vetted, the children should have gone into fostercare in a non family/ friend home. If they had to change schools, that's the way it is. Safety comes first. Good grief!
For everyone commenting about what an awful system cps court is, there is a very simple way that parents can stay out of this system in the first place.
@@vromanoff84nj I can literally call the hotline right now make something up and have them in your house in 48 hours. That’s how easy it is to have them in your life. Maybe you don’t have kids and it doesn’t matter to you but it’s very simple to cause multiple visits and problems for a family with a just one phone call a couple times a year and you don’t even have to give your name. They have to honor the person that is calling wish to stay anonymous.
Mendoza has yet to move. She might be a lizard sunbathing by a window. Rankin is staring straight ahead into my soul with some unnerving crazy, eyes. She looks like an npc of some video game character with her strangely large eyes. Judge is catching flies. Every time I think he’s had a stroke and is lights out, he says something perceptive to show he’s on top of it. Ms Dugan has the exact face that every Dmv worker I’ve seen does. That slightly smug, slightly irritated, almost offended but injured look. Like she’s smelling a fart and wants you to know she’s not happy about that. Mom’s attorney is so on top of it she’s leaving everyone in the dust. She’s the shining star here. Morris seems perfectly competent. Hodges seems like she’s got a chip on the shoulder. These people are very powerful, yet a little incompetent. Still sunbathing statuesque
Poor Ms Dugan got her head chopped off by not being completely prepared. Even though she has come onto the case late. She should have had access to everything in the kids case files even including her Supervisors records. That’s all about preparation!
Too many irons in the pot, none of them are dealing with it firsthand, they keep passing this case here to here to here,no wonder kids fall through the system, 🥲love the judge and mom‘s lawyer, dang she’s good✌🏻
They are willing to place children in a place you don’t know if this uncle is telling the truth. The kids know the family they are with. BEST INTEREST OF CHILDREN SHOULD BE THE GOAL.
CPS and TFI seems so shady. I know CPS is a shady company anyways and get bonuses for taking children and adopting them out. But good Lord. I feel so bad for these kids. They don’t have a good mother. I will admit that from what I’m hearing. But, at least get your stuff together for the sake of all these children.
In my state relative foster placement's are handled differently than regular foster placement in that only an initial criminal check, check on the safety registry and home assessment are needed to place the child and a complete home study is only required if the relative is wanting to be licensed as a relative foster home for the purpose of receiving a subsidy. Even if the relative seeks a subsidy the home study can be completed while the child is in the relative home as the department has already deemed the home as safe and suitable. This is only in regards to a relative placement.
you all listening to yourselfs? "hmm what?"..."must have lost custody of child"...thats the essence of you...your thinking. so.. 1. The government dept DHHS is illegally removing children from parents without due process, by introducing false evidence and instucting and paying witnesses to lie in court to take these children. its kidnapping. any questions? 2. no, i have not lost custody. my child waz just simple kudnapped. no court, no case, no warning....so the system is getting more brazen, in rhe open kidnapping. because you say things like "must have lost custody..." shame on you all
Mom can’t expect others to fight harder than her for her children. This hearing should continue without the parents! They’ve been put on notice and make an informed decision not to appear!
Wow....talk about a big mess!!! It seems nobody knows what is actually going on for these poor kids!!! That Ms. Duggin has absolutely no idea how to do her job. Once those kids are HER case, she should know EVERYTHING about their case. Those case workers evidently don't tell other case workers what the hell is going on!! Mom wznts them placed where SHE can have access when she wants & where she wants. The Ad Litem knows whats best for these kids!!!!!
She only gets a bonus if the kids are out of home she had to make sure that those kids got out of Home she do anyting you make sure that that test was found positive that mother should have been with
@@dogggodcrusader7854 Seriously??? You clearly feel like children should never be removed by your comments. How many times have I seen cases where the children should have been removed, were not and ended up abused or worse!
@@dogggodcrusader7854 , are you effing serious? The "mother" confessed to the drug use. She then tried to blame the boyfriend for using drugs in the children's presence, hence the positive drug tests. She didn't cooperate with several attempts to test her for drug use. She didn't even show up to fight for what's best for her kids. She has had every opportunity to do what she needed to do. Don't try blaming CPS for her Fu($ ups!!! She put herself straight in their cross hairs.
Mendoza is very proud of herself very proud of her little army of kidnappers so that makes her a supervisor of CPS so that's Hodges boss right there that sitting and just watching and monitoringnobody's going to ask her any questions because they're not allowed the judge is already been told don't ask her any questions
Rich people "snowbirds" sometimes live in New York and sometimes in Florida. It seems like the investigator is using poverty, presumably, as a issue? Would it be an issue if rich person stayed from place to place?
Good lord, is this like high school practice or something? These people are terrible. I don't have a clue about the law, and I could do better. Come on. What an embarrassment. These are the people making decisions about placing kids. Terrible. I'm sure they're probably under staffed, over worked, and under paid, but please, do the job. These kids will have enough problems without these unprepared, uninformed people. This is really bad
Misty’s attorney fuller should be more concerned about where the hell her client is…. Misty’s kids tested positive for drugs! Be more concerned about the kids than the mom. If her brother gave a crap he would have applied for placement
This is exactly why companies like TFI or Great Circle, etc, etc should NOT handle DFS cases.
This lawyer still represented her client even though her client doesn't even deserve her help!
Could be part of strategy
Everyone deserves competent legal representation when the state is talking about depriving a citizen of a fundamental liberty interest as important as the one in question here.
Good attorney! She is on the job till she isn't!
That's her job
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OMG....Miss Dugan's supervisor needs to be in this hearing - apparently, no verbal or written communications occurs in this business....
Friends sometimes will treat your children better than a family member would...
Agree 💯
Brother may be nothing like the Mother, but check out his mate well too! Especially since she will spend the most time with kids!
It's quite a lot, however, to impose on the family of one of the children's friends. It would be another thing if it were a family friend, friend of the mother, etc. Plus, you're banking on young children who are friends remaining that way in order to have peace in the household.
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Siblings don't always stay friends, but how things are structured in the home has much to do with that! Many "friend's" may have a healthy functioning home that is ready to invite a needy person in & show them what healthy looks like! Many foster & adopt successfully!
I fostered my nephew's friend, age 9 years and and his older brother was age 11 years.
They were placed for five weeks. They stayed the eldest stayed until he was 18 years old and the youngest stayed until he was 25 years old and he passed away with cancer.
They had a settled life with me and enjoyed doing things they had never had the opportunity to do with their mum. I was not a foster carer, and I was not a friend or family. As I had never met the boys. I had I checks for criminal records, etc.
And police checks.
I’m so sorry that you lost the younger one. I’m sure that he was beyond grateful to have a second chance at a loving family. ❤❤❤
I’m sure you made his life happy and full of Love that he wouldn’t have had the chance to experience otherwise. You did good Mom!
Sad the mother’s attorney is fighting harder than she is for her own kids.
Yes, noticed that, clearly.
True but how good is she if she’s ok and working with a parent that’s obviously not doing their part. who is the kid going to be with the attorney or the mom. I couldn’t represent someone to get their kid back if they are not in a place to have their kid at all… period
@@jennipavlak2014 I agree with you 100%!
ladies, you apparently know nothing about the correction in the court. This mother is broken, and that is intentional. Think about the weaponizing of our government that is being reviewed by congress; and just change "Republicans' to '"parents". The same power of a full government all agency's toolbox used to create a narrative of why children are better off in paid strangers custody. Would you be surprised to know every dollar cps spends, they get $1.80 or more back from fed title lV. Drug tests are not trust worthy either, every state in Union has been caught numerous times falseing results. They say whatever they want, never facts. Like the politians in charge today, they know some people believe whatever they read. Regardless of truth.
@@jennipavlak2014 someone has to do it. Don't hate on her because she's doing her job. Please grow up a little. 🙄
My Lord, by the time Ol’Ernie gets to the point……those kids will be grown! Talk about a Kanagroo Court
This is a REMOVAL - these ppl are NOT PREPARED. Scary - just scary!
These women are scary. So slow off the mark and didn't know anything anyway. Could have had the whole thing wrapped up in ten minutes. The lack of time and consideration given to these kids is criminal and they're calling the mother negligent. Pot meet kettle.
Mrs. Jeannie Fuller is a prolific advocator for her client. Bravo. Your' use of hear say objections is a thing of beauty.
That caseworker body language speaks volumes she is injoying this
The Mom’s Lawyer is impressive. I want her on my side. She is clearly doing her job.
What exactly are you impressed with? Her ability to object in a timely manner? She withheld information about the Uncle.
THANK YOU FOR STREAMING YOUR HEARINGS! it is very educational.
A bit harder to cover up the corruption that way.
Huh?
@@vicki3671
I wonder what kind of education CPS workers have. Those case workers cannot have more than high school. The attorney Rankin seems totally unprepared. It’s ridiculous. I can’t imagine these people being in charge of any children. My God.
I don't think they have much, if any, education beyond high school. Certainly not enough training. I managed to raise 2 boys to adulthood without CPS ever being involved in our lives. Thank God. Because from what I have seen, once they're in your life they're not going away very easily. It makes me sick how many sh*try parents there are who can't even get it together long enough to get their kids back. The kids lose over and over again.
Maybe because of all the CRAP parents out there, they have to get cps workers in the system as fast as they can. These children of awful parents, can't wait 4 years for someone that will care about them more than their own parents to finish university.
@@ruz7951 it doesn’t take much for someone to have CPS involvement. Just an anonymous phone call from someone who has angry or wants to be vindictive. They can do it once a week and cps would have to be out to the house once a week. Due to things like this they are overworked and are overloaded with cases. That’s what causes them to actually be more neglectful than the parents that get calls against them.
@Megan Oliphant bullshit I make 32$/hr and I only have a HS diploma. Granted I have no record whatsoever and had to get a security clearance but that's simple
At inimum, you have to have a bachelor's degree to be a CPS worker in Florida.
I’m half way through but ……., The attorney representing the accused and not present “mother” is pretty impressive. She hasn’t had any conversations with the mother but is lawyering her ass off! Wow.
That's hearsay
Even if the mom was here only your lawyer speaks anyway you just go in court room only thing you say is your name you can not defend yourself in any way its an evil system for POS do nothings having a job while hiding behind your kids shooting at you with fake child's best interest they laugh in your face while taking them they lie on you to drag it out like a 500 times I will not talk in class writing assignment that you did while they afterwards rip it up in your face and throw it away they psychologically damage your family children if in their care your child usually abused molested trafficked even killed facts lay with 90% of human trafficking victims were involved with the system the Americans need to stick together to fight and fight the system until this evil is abolished and that's all their is to it or this tyranny won't stop
I agree
@@mr.mclibtard5015lol
Contrary to many ppl’s perception, Public defenders are some of the best attorneys in the profession. They are true grunts, working mostly under pressure in stressful circumstances. They’re servant of their community.
The judge is petty. “It’s Mrs.Hodges’s that’s being grilled!” So you mean the lawyer is doing her job? Good!!
You must be a sovcitidiot, you cannot follow the correct legal procedures that are occurring
Exactly! She’s a fantastic Lawyer.
God help the children who have these confused, poorly prepared adults & this dysfunctional system in charge of them. The judge is trying. Ms Fuller is terrible.
Totally agree & that includes this Judge. The whole bunch are a circus. God help the kids there. Watch Judge Alex Kim for 5 minutes and
then you realize how truly bad this is.
Keep in mind they’re doing this hearing in a way they aren’t used to doing it in due to COVID
You're a worthless person you can't tell that they're lying their lying about everything they're saying everything they're saying is premeditated there's no truth
you're here to make it seem like people agree you're a plant only
I agree with most stated, but how is Ms Fuller terrible?
The judge is and should be critical. These child care workers are acting like they don’t have a clue. If you take over a case then you gather all the information you can and have it ready for the judge. And if this is a case where the children have been removed then why the hell aren’t the home studies and background checks done within a week? The child care worker in green acts like this is her first day on the job!!!! TF! How the hell do these people expect the judge to do his job with no information upon which to make his decision?!?!
Not defending CPS or similar entities, however have you considered how overloaded the system is?? How rampant drug's are in our society? And that the fault should primarily with the irresponsible and neglecting parents??
Wow, what a group. Listening to some of them, it makes me wonder if they want to win, or do the right thing
I was thinking the same thing I don't think some of these people care about the well being of these children it's about I can do what I want and there's nothing you can do about it
It’s all about winning!
I know as a grandma you place my grandchildren with a stranger id get a lawyer and be right at caseworkers office. Any loving grandma fight for grandchildren
Amen.
Ms Rankin has some huge eyes, kinda freaking me out
Probably had some botox shots or fillers recently
Botox
Those are called crazy eyes
Like Princess Beatrice. Huge eyes
That are set far apart!
Sounds like a lot of nothing has been done on this case. 5 professional women, advocating for these children and most of them have, “no knowledge” or “have not received the paperwork or emails”. What is the State and County paying for? Dugan wants the children placed with the Uncle but literally has no info on his, his partner or his home. If he was concerned about his sister/the mom doing drugs he still let his kids stay the night with his sister. If kids placed with Uncle/mom’s brother would he protect the kids from the mom? What a mess. These poor kids pulled into the depths of adult bs.
You can ask your State to allocate more money to child and family services! You can also vote blue to stop any further infringement on abortion rights!
It's a very hard job. No excuse, but it's probably not incompetence and it's unlikely malice. It's a broken system. I wish more people actually looked at what happens. So many say protect the kids but don't follow through with action. So many kids in a broken system.
Take care
@@hhunstad2011
Kind of in the same way all the Pro Life , have no desire to help raise these unborn babies. They just want to tell you what you can do with your body.
I'm a retired mental health social worker specializing in Level 1 clients both in the Child/Adolescent section and later in Adult section.
Level 1 clients are the most chronic, severe cases involving multiple disciplinary teams - CPS, ADS, education, hospitalization, wrap around services, service/treatment plans, housing, medical, prison...........
Based on my experiences, I have never met a CPS worker that was competent.
For example, I had a family where the grandparents adopted their 6 grandchildren - various ages. They had decided to move out of state which was to be a huge benefit to the family.
The problem was that the 15 y/o female wanted to stay with an aunt that lived in gang territory. Everyone on the team psychiatrists, school, myself and my team were against this.
CPS prevailed so the 15 y/o was placed with the aunt. 2 days before the family moved to the 15 y/o was murdered in a gang fight.
This was only 1 of many cases that I had with CPS and none of them was of benefit to the child/children.
As a Police Officer, I had frequent encounters with my state's CPS, all of which I found supremely frustrating.
Once, a Worker saw my frustration and pulled me aside. She explained that while mandate of CPS was child protection, a secondary goal of the organization was to keep families intact, where possible.
This often lead to conflicting priorities and apparent options being non-viable.
As the old saying goes, what you see depends on where you stand...
It seems CPS is like a bandaid that keeps falling off, over and over. Once in a while, it works, but not often . imo
Obviously things were not going well with the 15 year old that she wanted to stay with her aunt. So for all your services someone missed the boat on your end about what was going on with this teen. Calling ALL CPS workers incompetent in your experience makes me wonder if you ever understood the limitations, scope and realities of their job.
I’m not so sure this person didn’t find that there was something wrong with the grandparents. It’s a 15 year old girl. She obviously didn’t want to move away from her friends or whatever it was for her wanting to stay. 15 year olds don’t really have a great reputation for doing what is right over what they want. Her intention was to stay with the aunt. Who knows why honestly but it’s fairly evident her death is mostly on the poor kid and her choice. I made really stupid choices when I was that age. I’m surprised I made it to the age I am, 49, from the dumb choices I’ve made.
@@Sick_Boy_Rick74 agreed. Chances are, she'd ran away. Shame really.
I feel bad for the 2engage lady after reading employee reviews about working there and how poorly trained and overworked they are and some terrible supervisors that aren't engaged. Sounds like a nightmare. Is nobody overseeing this organization that cares for children??!!
Judge sure was picking up on some inconsistencies & slip shoddiness! However, this worker would need serious training & supervision before I would feel comfortable with her in an oversight position! She needs a different career choice with all due respect! It is workers like this that end up allowing children to get hurt! Impressed by the Guardian Ad Litem though!
At least she showed up for court!
No excuse, you can’t control how anyone else does their job, you only control how you do your job and making excuses doesn’t cut it.
@@cdrone4066 Hear hear
CPS is woefully underfunded, it's practically criminal.
Mrs. Fuller is cracking me up lol !!
My opinion on placement.....just because the mom wants her brother to have the children, and he is willing to take them, it doesn't mean it's the best placement for them. Just because he IS the brother doesn't either. I know a few 'brothers' that I would never, ever let near my children. Blood relatives are not always the best choice.
Understandable but where there at the house has already had cps called on them !!
Okay but you need to recognize that parents still have a right to choose the placement if they can find an appropriate one. If the police there at has had CPS involvement obviously that's not ideal. And if at all possible biological family should always be used over fostering to unrelated people, that's pretty much the policy in every state.
Depends on what your scale is…like what are the contributing factors to determine “best”. It’s well known that removing the children, regardless of how necessary it is, is traumatic for children. Having them placed with family members who they’re familiar with & love can minimize that trauma.
This is exactly how kids fall through the cracks. I’m sure that poor lady has a caseload that is impossible to keep up with. Make the attorneys do some of the leg work to see how hard it is.
Attorneys are definitely overwhelmed also
The attorneys know exactly how hard it is they are overwhelmed with cases as well. LOL
Umm no. If you’re applying to a job you know requires you to have proof of everything you’re saying and know each child and parent completely with every drop of information, otherwise they don’t have the right to have children.
This case hurts my heart... AND my head (just trying to follow along). SAD. 😢
With this group I feel bad for those kids
Also 2ingage Mrs Dugan stated early on she didn't do anything because she wanted to see the outcome if this very hearing. This is a huge problem like plain lazy. They are supposed to be working for the kids 24/7
I don’t think the judge likes the 2ingage lady 😂
Just had our grandson removed because we said we were not prepared to adopt because our daughter needed mental inpatient care die to psychosis, confirmed diagnosis. Suddenly the DA requested immediate removal for child being in unsafe environment. Ok to adopt but because we choose to try to get daughter medical mental care, protection order in place so this child is protected, but suddenly the child is unsafe because we are trying to help his mom and take care of him. Reunification seems to be the last resort
That is so sad, ridiculous and a pure shame. I hope your daughter is doing better and hope you can fight to get your grandson back
@@jenniferweddington9759 we are trying. CPS says if she tests neg for drugs 3x we can see him in their office, supervised. We did nothing but care for him since birth thru the NICU and everything. The last 2 tests she took were "lost" so have to start all over. Her last case with her other 2 kids she neg tested 80x and they refused her to see them . Grand parents have no rights in TX, weird because TX is such a Red bible thumping state grand parents would have some say. The court already will terminate regardless of what is done. Sadly the little guy will never know he has 2 sets of GPs, an older brother and sister. The state refuses to send a referral for a medical eval and or counseling. All they care about is neg drug testing. She had illness before but even us assumed it was drugs. After she lost her other 2 kids she sort of lost it and self treated with drugs because she went into full psychosis. She got pregnant and denied she was pregnant, she was so small and thin, didn't show at month 6. By 7 a bump bit we didn't see her month 7 or 8 then had a baby in motel bathroom. She freaked out at the hospital and couldn't believe she had a baby. AMA and she left. Father was told to leave the hospital and CPS came in and took him to another hospital. The father returned after he found her roaming along the highway and took her home but by then CPS took custody and he was escorted out of the hospital. All this info coming to light but if diagnosed with mental issue, forget it. I don't think people understand how difficult it is to get treatment for someone in psychosis. Unless they are hurting someone or in the act of hurting themselves you are helpless. Sure, ER for a day then they release or a week facility bit it is back on the street. All the state sees is drug use in the past so a druggie, danger to kid, terminate and adopt out. We could adopt but get no state assistance on top of supporting her and the kicker is the judge already mentioned a no contact order if the terminate on top of it being also if he is adopted so if we were to adopt she could never have any contact. Basically, we need to kick her to the curb and sacrifice her life for his unless we let go and let him get adopted to someone else.
Reunification is NOT their goal, ot matter HOW MANY TIMES they say it is. Over half of these children are in no danger at all, and simply have parents who struggle financially, and to keep us their homes while working with multiple young children. They will use anything to take a child and pretend it has suffered some imagined abuse, all the while, ALL of the children are confused and feeling angry because you just took the one person they could count on, out of their lives. They say there are times where it would be in the child's best interest to stay in the home even when there are issues. I believe this is true 90% of the time since only 2% of cases nationwide are actually for abuse. We arent free. Not in America. We are just as big of slaves now as the African Americans were back in the day. But in these times the separation comes due to social class. Poor people can't afford maids and nanny. Rich people have a spotless house at all times or the maid gets fired. Stop taking kids because you don't like someone's lifestyle. Take them when there is actual abuse. Actual physical damage. It damages a child to be taken from their home. When will you monsters take sresponsibility for all of the unabashed children who come into the system and end UP abused BECAUSE you took them from their parents?!?!
Exactly. The CPS lady finally came to see her. No family plan done, finally got some referrals, and she let slip that just prior to court they received info that we were "helping" her. Of course, wasn't a secret that we refused to sacrifice her for him. There is a way that both can be helped. I suspect they think she saw him and that scares them because she may eat him or something. No proof she is a danger.
So unbelievably sad. Im so sorry for your loss in having to choose. I cant even imagine.
Wow - I wonder how much the state is paying 2ingage for their complete incompetence.
They probably pay her 40k at most. Which is why you won’t find quality people in this role
They are thrown in with no prior experience
I absolutely cannot believe they have not been to the brothers home! The kids are obviously close to their uncle, Jesus Christ people step up and get that done. They might very well be happier with him!
The respondent Mother actually has a good lawyer. I sure didn't have that when I was going thru cps court.
What were you doing in cps court in the first place? Oh wait, I'm sure it was not your fault!
Yeah, I was thinking that her lawyer was on the ball. Way too often I watch these hearings and the lawyers are barely paying attention let alone making good arguments/objections.
@@ruz7951 Do you have children? It’s easily done you can find out how quick you can end up in cps court for nothing. All that’s needed is underage children at anytime in your care and an evil person.
@@ruz7951 I bet your ignorance really is bliss.
@@ruz7951 you don’t know anything. Don’t be so quick to judge
It’s so amazing that we have these attorneys fighting to take these children from parents and punish them. But they aren’t fighting to make these social workers accept accountability for their incompetence.
Take them from the families and allow THESE women to decide what’s best for them?
Something is wrong with this system.
How can you fight to take the kids and have NO WHERE for them to go.
There are over 500,000 children in foster care, and on average, child will now spend an average of 2 birthday in foster care.. system is so broken 💔
@@taraanndelcielo4332
Exactly
Broken and burnt out.
Okay the lady from two engaged a literally said no we haven't staffed him as a placement we were waiting for the hearing. She literally explained it to you so clean out your ears
Ms Dugan gave the case study to her Supervisor and that person isn’t on the call?! They basically hung her out to dry. Not cool! It makes everybody look bad and the Judge doesn’t have any information to make a decision. The end of this ended up being a cluster!
I do hope by this time, the cps has improved on how they handle these cases. According to this, they have not done their job and considering their job deals with children, that's a pure shame. Someone needs to put a knot in their tail and get them to working correctly.
You must hate being a CPS worker. Have you considered changing careers. I think you would be much happier and that's what is important! Good luck!!!
@@SweetPea112 I am retired and don't work for CPS. However, I do know that no profession is perfect and if it can be improved, it should be. Do you just like objecting to what people say or do you like trying to stir up trouble. I don't play that silly game.
That is just unacceptable when being responsible for children. It's also immature to show up to a court hearing smirking the whole time but utterly unprepared. Did not even try to do one step of work for these poor kids
@@amberstorm1139 truth
@@amberstorm1139 I never understood the “CPS is childless” remark I have 4 kids but what does it matter if they have kids or not. This sounds like deflection from bad mothers
Why do we have 2ngage instead of CPS???
This seems to become a problem for safety of the kids!!
Anyone know why this 2nd company??
There is absolutely no excuse for any of these women to not know the information asked of them. I don’t care if these are new cases for them or not. Do your homework. Prepare for this hearing. How do you go to a hearing about placement when you haven’t done a home study of the home requested, or have gathered the information about the placement homes? WHEN SCHOOL BEGINS IN TWO DAYS! These people are not meeting the minimum requirements of their jobs. It’s embarrassing and unacceptable.
It is an emergency hearing.
Dani Theuekauf is right! It becomes a different set of circumstances and different way of handling the case at this point.
@@JulieannsSerenity It surely does. They had a moment to prepare though. This is serious business, and if I were a social worker, knowing I had a hearing that day, emergency or not, I’d prepare. I don’t think that’s asking too much of our public servants. The judges should have higher standards, requiring answers.
They're extremely overworked. I can't believe anyone would do this job.
Different Court. 1 yr ago my friend's grandkids were taken from the home. Pal was in zoom attendance to all. Every hearing they were idiodic, uninformed, left hand and right didn't communicate, and the judge was rude, belligerent, and read into what family said what she wanted, refusing words at face value. I felt sorry for the family. 4 generations screwed around because the teenage had a stupid moment in a zero tolerance world.
It makes me crazy when I see these people. It seems like they do everything half ass at best, without even general follow up. It's no wonder so many people complain about services. These people have other people's futures in the palm of their hands, and don't really seem to care enough to do the job completely. They're displacing families. This is ridiculous that time after time it's the same thing. It's not frustrating, it's disgusting
I would do anything for my kids!!! Why not be in contact with your attorney???
She's probably in jail they they might have even killed her these are criminals you can't tell that they're lying
@@dogggodcrusader7854 You have issues.
@@dogggodcrusader7854 saying the mother is probably in jail, but saying THESE people are the criminals? Ironic. You're either a child, or someone that has had their kids taken. A drug addict has no business having custody of their children, so the mother definitely should have them taken away
Because she’s trash. By the time a woman’s kids have entered the system she most likely has been a degenerate loser for a long time
Unfortunately everyone on this case have dropped the ball. Not communicating properly with ALL involved, the Judge is working in a very dark box, no information so he could've decided. I think they all need a course on team work and outline their duties. This hearing really did not accomplish much for these two children of any tangible value to move forward.
TFI is notorious for this. I worked for them till I couldn't stand their incompetence anymore. They never took responsibility either. They make their staff take the hits for then like miss Dugan here.
Someone is not doing their job any more than slip shod! The Mom's attorney is sharp! Legal Rankin is ticked thank goodness! Thanks for sharing! There is wisdom in a multitude of wise counselors! I really like Guardian ad litem, Morris! Rankin looks on top of it. Good job Judge!
Nobody wants to do their jobs, everyone wants to pass it off the someone else. These people should have all their information before the hearing, all interviews, studies, paperwork, and witnesses, that’s why these cases go on and on. Courts cut the people involved too much slack.
Mrs rankin looks like Sid from ice age or I should say Sid wife lol them eyes can’t get further off her head lmfao
Seems to me that there are so many people involved leaving holes in the investigation.
Why are we still doing things remotely? Why aren't we doing these things in person. That attorney works harder than the $50000 attorney I had. Family court is horrible sometimes.
This case was streamed 2 years ago…
So caseworkers would have to have family placement approved but gave children to stranger they don't know. Ok.
Exactly nothing makes sense these people are lying they probably don't those children this lady probably f****** do still and then could they showed up positive that's how she gets the
That makes sense.
My understanding is the two daughters were friends; that the current placement did not involve complete strangers.
The mom referred the cps to that couple
Who is Mary Mendoza and why is she here lol. Just curious 😂😂😂
Huh she not even a part of it seems like
These people can take children from their parents with seemingly low concern, but are not prepared with comprehensive information about these placements and possible placements for this hearing?? That’s typical of these government child welfare departments and I find it disgusting and disturbing. What a mess.
Ty
Amen well said thank u for soeskuling up this is out of control I can't believe the people who is supposed to be public servants are conniving n screaming beglhind people's baks n act as tho they have any right to stuck their notices where it never brlonged. A maxims in law is what man creates he controls therefore the fraudulent document state created called birth certificate that's on bond paper is n fact the only thing they control so parents give it to them it's not worth what harm they are perpetrating against our innocent baby's. These demons are sick sick twisted person's false gods !!!
They r privately owned not government they lied to us they r imposters
They already took the kids
Drug testing isn't even admirable in a real court how would the kids fail for mothers use that makes no sense
Why aren't the Uncle, the families who have the kids, any counselors, anyone else being called in to testify? People's lives are being determined without accurate info. When I got custody of my granddaughter the process was much more precise. The court investigator was much more thorough. The great aspect was CPS was out of our hair once we got custody and fulfilled court requirements.
There’s no better feeling in the whole world than walking away from CPS with your grandchild. It doesn’t keep a parent from wishing it had never been necessary though.
@@lynnp9943 I made sure, even though at time it was very difficult, to keep the child's parents in her life. I knew that the child's needs were more important than mine and part of her needs included her parents, even if on a restricted basis. The mom was a teenager, abused and on drugs. If at all possible it was my privilege to assistant her in growing up without putting the child in physical or emotional danger. Many years I implemented strict access rules. Eventually mom and dad grew up. They are all doing well and we have a great relationship. The child is now a mom. Unfortunately no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't protect her from everything. But she's grown to be a phenomenal young woman, wife and mother. I am proud of both her and her parents, they too grew up to be strong adults who are taking responsibility. But, let me tell you, it was rough. I'm saying this to all the grandparents and caregivers. Don't forget your focus is primarily on the children but also, if your able, extend your hands in healing towards the parents. Edit: I re-read this and realized I left out my husband in the telling. Without his strength, guidance and love none of this would have been possible. No way.
The judge was a little unprofessional too in my opinion as far as being a little too glib or unfamiliar with terms. Why didn't he just call them out earlier on being unprepared for the hearing, order them to get the home study done by a specific date & reschedule,?
@@s.v.2796 there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t wish that road would have been possible for us. Our path was different. I hope that my grandson can be strong and keep remembering that it’s not his fault. For him it was normal to wear dirty clothes to school, eat out of garbage cans for lunch, and every day wait out in the heat for her to come home, if she did. It took years to get guardianship, custody, and ultimately adopt him. And idk what I would have done without my husband either. He was the steadying force behind me when I thought CPS had finally broken me. They went as far as placing him in foster care AFTER I had already had a home study and the whole evaluation. I do wish things could have been different. All I can do now is to be the best person I can be for him. Sometimes I wish I could be more of a grandmother and less of a mother. Grandmas are a lot more fun. I wish you all the best. We as grandparents are stronger than a lot of people realize. We have to be.
@@lynnp9943 I'm so very sorry. My heart breaks for you. I was so fortunate to have a son and daughter-in-law willing, trusting enough, or maybe just too young to not fight the system. This allowed me time to raise her. Because trust and believe me when they got older, and became to exert what they thought were their parental rights, they did enough damage in a couple of years to show me the potential of what might have been. Fortunately it was a very short time and the child was grown enough to balance love with knowledge. And we all made it through. Nonetheless, I'm so very, very heart broken. And please- I'm not coming from a place of "I'm so great." I'm in recovery. I was only two years clean when we got custody of our granddaughter. Although I didn't use around my kids, my drug use leaked into the world of my children and it did damage to them. I've been clean 28 years and I'm still making amends. Sometimes it's difficult to say everything on a comment. Sometimes I sound like I don't mean to. I'm not point fingers at you.
Relatives are not always the best. Anyone living in Colorado city should be suspect and investigated based on the religion practiced in the town. I would not place any child in Colorado city.
So sad how the kids just get lost in the system
Some of them are literally lost some of them lose their souls and others lose their very lives due to this very corrupt system!!
Well certainly with this bunch.
@@vickicarnes6860 That part.
Ms Fuller, I hope no harm comes to these children.
Reading the comments, there is no way I'd be able to watch this stream of these incompetent workers having to much power in their hands without becoming infuriated
Why. It’s apparent that 2engage has not provided any information to the guardian ad Litem or the court. The only incompetent person here is 2engage. The meeting is trying to make these children safe. 2engage is not doing its job.
Too much power? Please tell me you are joking.
@@Lopyswine They're always fucking up. Its insane how much damage they do. No better than the shitty parents they like to leave children with 😂
Attorney Fuller is ridiculous with these objections when her client has not bothered to show up or communicate.
She is doing a great job I would want her on my side
LOL 😅 I can't stop staring at Rankin's scowl 😖😖😖 😂😂
And the eyes 👀👀👀
I'm dead rn 😭😭😂😂💀💀
Yea what was going on with that!
She needs to wear some glasses or something!
I know for real someone should Drug test her lmfao
11:22 Paramour! There's a word we don't hear very often.
I disagree with where they are now. If the kids are the same age and there is prior cps issues. That wasn't that long ago. I think the brother us the best option. It's not up to his sister because she has issues mist likely due to her drug use. Thus is how good family members get passed over.
How many children are in the news everyday dead because of these incompetent people? If those children are sooooo important to the parents as they always always claim to be why can't they make the choice to get clean, fight for their kids and be a good parent? Being an addict is a CHOICE!
If these kids are comfortable and happy. Leave them where they’re at! Dont disrupt them anymore than need be.
These particular people are in charge of determining who is and isn’t a good parent? 😂 The light is very dim between them isn’t it?
God bless Ms.fuller!💛
I've never seen/heard such an ineffective bunch of "legal experts" in my life. Confusion and ineptness running rampant.
If all the placements suggested were not fully vetted, the children should have gone into fostercare in a non family/ friend home. If they had to change schools, that's the way it is. Safety comes first. Good grief!
What was the outcome?? I can't find it anywhere.
Thanks for this. I won't continue watching if there is no outcome
Is this judge for real? Can he be any slower? 😳
Play slow talkers at 1.25x speed.
Miss rankin must have great peripheral vision
This system is a joke. the judge is one sided.fuller is doing her best,God bless her.
Wow 😢. This so sad …. Poor kids
Judge Armstrong doesn't look that competent
Belongs in traffic court. Totally out of touch. Probably a decent man but out of his depth. God help the children
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For everyone commenting about what an awful system cps court is, there is a very simple way that parents can stay out of this system in the first place.
That doesn’t help the children who have no ability to control what their parents do.
What’s that simple way?
Unfortunately, that’s where you’re wrong. You are obviously very unaware of how CPS works.
Don’t be a degenerate loser. That’s what all these parents have in common.@@AllHailKingRose
@@vromanoff84nj I can literally call the hotline right now make something up and have them in your house in 48 hours. That’s how easy it is to have them in your life. Maybe you don’t have kids and it doesn’t matter to you but it’s very simple to cause multiple visits and problems for a family with a just one phone call a couple times a year and you don’t even have to give your name. They have to honor the person that is calling wish to stay anonymous.
Mendoza has yet to move. She might be a lizard sunbathing by a window.
Rankin is staring straight ahead into my soul with some unnerving crazy, eyes. She looks like an npc of some video game character with her strangely large eyes.
Judge is catching flies. Every time I think he’s had a stroke and is lights out, he says something perceptive to show he’s on top of it.
Ms Dugan has the exact face that every Dmv worker I’ve seen does. That slightly smug, slightly irritated, almost offended but injured look. Like she’s smelling a fart and wants you to know she’s not happy about that.
Mom’s attorney is so on top of it she’s leaving everyone in the dust. She’s the shining star here.
Morris seems perfectly competent.
Hodges seems like she’s got a chip on the shoulder.
These people are very powerful, yet a little incompetent.
Still sunbathing statuesque
Poor Ms Dugan got her head chopped off by not being completely prepared. Even though she has come onto the case late. She should have had access to everything in the kids case files even including her Supervisors records. That’s all about preparation!
TFI sounds like they don't have a clue!
Too many irons in the pot, none of them are dealing with it firsthand, they keep passing this case here to here to here,no wonder kids fall through the system, 🥲love the judge and mom‘s lawyer, dang she’s good✌🏻
They are willing to place children in a place you don’t know if this uncle is telling the truth. The kids know the family they are with. BEST INTEREST OF CHILDREN SHOULD BE THE GOAL.
CPS and TFI seems so shady.
I know CPS is a shady company anyways and get bonuses for taking children and adopting them out. But good Lord. I feel so bad for these kids. They don’t have a good mother. I will admit that from what I’m hearing. But, at least get your stuff together for the sake of all these children.
In my state relative foster placement's are handled differently than regular foster placement in that only an initial criminal check, check on the safety registry and home assessment are needed to place the child and a complete home study is only required if the relative is wanting to be licensed as a relative foster home for the purpose of receiving a subsidy. Even if the relative seeks a subsidy the home study can be completed while the child is in the relative home as the department has already deemed the home as safe and suitable. This is only in regards to a relative placement.
Whatever you're a kidnapper drop down to whatever your told
@@dogggodcrusader7854 umm.. what?
@@KPuddin Must have lost custody of their kids.
you all listening to yourselfs? "hmm what?"..."must have lost custody of child"...thats the essence of you...your thinking.
so..
1. The government dept DHHS is illegally removing children from parents without due process, by introducing false evidence and instucting and paying witnesses to lie in court to take these children. its kidnapping. any questions?
2. no, i have not lost custody. my child waz just simple kudnapped. no court, no case, no warning....so the system is getting more brazen, in rhe open kidnapping. because you say things like "must have lost custody..." shame on you all
This makes me Sad for the children
Mom can’t expect others to fight harder than her for her children. This hearing should continue without the parents! They’ve been put on notice and make an informed decision not to appear!
I wish Ernie was my judge
2ingage is disengaged! Geez!
Folks have high expectations for overworked and underpaid workers
Wow....talk about a big mess!!! It seems nobody knows what is actually going on for these poor kids!!! That Ms. Duggin has absolutely no idea how to do her job. Once those kids are HER case, she should know EVERYTHING about their case. Those case workers evidently don't tell other case workers what the hell is going on!! Mom wznts them placed where SHE can have access when she wants & where she wants. The Ad Litem knows whats best for these kids!!!!!
We're is caseworker proff that the mom said that any one can make up anything
How accurate are these test and were children's taken to hospital lab to insure 100 percent accurate.
That social worker probably sprinkle f****** meth in their hair that's what they do
She only gets a bonus if the kids are out of home she had to make sure that those kids got out of Home she do anyting you make sure that that test was found positive that mother should have been with
@@dogggodcrusader7854 Seriously??? You clearly feel like children should never be removed by your comments. How many times have I seen cases where the children should have been removed, were not and ended up abused or worse!
@@dogggodcrusader7854 , are you effing serious? The "mother" confessed to the drug use. She then tried to blame the boyfriend for using drugs in the children's presence, hence the positive drug tests.
She didn't cooperate with several attempts to test her for drug use. She didn't even show up to fight for what's best for her kids. She has had every opportunity to do what she needed to do.
Don't try blaming CPS for her Fu($ ups!!! She put herself straight in their cross hairs.
Sorry to say, but I’ve seen more organized student body meetings. Be better for the kids in the community.
Most kids that go through this wind up on the streets or cemetery. How much should something fail before you shut it down.
so shes living or visiting? How can she go back and forth without an actual legal residence?
how do you live somewhere off and on? where is her legal residence?
contacted or attempted to contact, which one was it?
She already said she didn’t know where the kids went to school last year. So why would Fuller object in the way she did? That was ridiculous
Mendoza is very proud of herself very proud of her little army of kidnappers so that makes her a supervisor of CPS so that's Hodges boss right there that sitting and just watching and monitoringnobody's going to ask her any questions because they're not allowed the judge is already been told don't ask her any questions
Kids tested positive to meth and you think they should stay in that home?
Typical inbred white trash response
@@vromanoff84nj well I guess your secure enough. Yet, you like to bully. No community issus.>>? Your invited to call me
@@dreamingoffalling hey genius, what your saying is .>>>TheY gov take all kids that parent use drugs? Idiot or naive.>>Up to u
@@vromanoff84nj I bet you have some anomaly with your relationship with your birth parents don't you
Rich people "snowbirds" sometimes live in New York and sometimes in Florida. It seems like the investigator is using poverty, presumably, as a issue? Would it be an issue if rich person stayed from place to place?
Good lord, is this like high school practice or something? These people are terrible. I don't have a clue about the law, and I could do better. Come on. What an embarrassment. These are the people making decisions about placing kids. Terrible. I'm sure they're probably under staffed, over worked, and under paid, but please, do the job. These kids will have enough problems without these unprepared, uninformed people. This is really bad
In the meantime, they are wearing the current placement out, which could in turn be dangerous for the babies.
Misty’s attorney fuller should be more concerned about where the hell her client is…. Misty’s kids tested positive for drugs! Be more concerned about the kids than the mom. If her brother gave a crap he would have applied for placement