If this thing is coming to Australia then it has to have the the Stinger engine as an option. TT V6 Petrol. Make a Diesel model, but give us something killa as well. I would buy one if it had the TT V6, and the dealer didn’t try to shaft me with 70% mark up. $86k for a Stinger, get a grip.
I have a Colorado at the moment, and since GM and Holden gave up on Australia I'd honestly give one of these a genuine look over when replacement time comes. Kia's come a long way and have some seriously impressive offerings in other categories now.
I think there would be enough people here in Australia who would buy a live front axle ute; even if it was a $3000 option. This would signal to people that it is a serious ute, not a SUV. This would be their point of difference that they'd need to stand out in a crowded marketplace. Coupled with the 3.0L V6 Diesel and front and rear lockers and we have a deal.
To be honest, I have no interest in going off road and flog the ute through ditches and over rocks. A simple rear wheel drive double cap family vechile will do for me.
As a truck driver that until recently was driving a car carrier and delivering all kinds of cars, I would buy a Kia or Hyundai in a heartbeat. They make very impressive cars at a better price than others (except for the Chinese junk on the market).
I own a 2014 Hyundai i40 and can say it's a very nice car with plenty of get up and go, had an 05 BF Falcon before it and the i40 is as quick accelerating to overtake as it was but without the torque
We have started with the Kia carnival, then bought a Sorento, 350 km and still running well. We also have a 4yo Sportage. All of these cars have never ever left us on the side of the road with a breakdown. I personally drive a 2016 Hilux also 350 km and have a 2007 Hilux which just had a new engine transplant. I also had a new Hilux before that one. So i would still pass up a new Hilux for a untested Kia ute because the driving experience we get and have had from Kia far outweighs my time with Toyota. If the price is comparable and is as reliable as our other Kia cars, Then you new Kia ute for me
I'm pretty excited to see this come out mainly because Kia's vehicle design language is far better than most of its competitors. If they get this ute right and make it not just another ute but a family friendly ute they will steal alot of the family market away from people who might typically buy a ranger or a Hilux.
Most families don't buy ute's though. They make really "*%&^%" family vehicles. Compromised in many ways. They are great vehicles for trades (doubling as a family vehicle) and farms though. I agree on the design language comment. ;)
I say they need to bring it here to the US. With Kia's better pricing and more features, if it's nearly on par with the market, it would be worth highly considering. Besides, most people don't use their trucks near their capabilities to begin with. If it tows and hauls 7/8th of the market average, I'd consider it.
In the dual cab market a full size rear seat and a full size tray would win a lot of customers. Not sure if legislation restrictions has stopped this so far.
Keen for the kia ute. Praying, crossing fingers and toes for a high performance variant. Missed out on buying a hoon ute (fpv or ss) would love to see that stinger engine slapped into a road focussed ute.
It must have a higher GVM and GCM than the Ford Ranger. People want to actually be able to tow 3500kg legally. If they do that it will pull buyers back from Ram and landcruiser sales. A lot people are forced into those utes because the others won't do the job legally. I have a 79 ute and hate it but a hilux won't tow enough and the new ranger is unreliable. It would be nice if it had the straight 6 diesel not the v6 along with Awd, rear disc brakes and coil suspension all around.
At last another man who has a brain and hates Landcruisers and sees them for what they are. I hear you champ, and you’re so right there is nothing else on the market except for a smaller GVM truck like an Isuzu or a Mitsubishi Canter or similar to do that work. They are about as comfortable as an over priced cruiser😂😂😂
Any manufacturer that can build a new ute and deliver it at an affordable price to stop current manufacturers ripping the consumer's Of. The prices established companies Are charging makes Ned Kelly look like choir boy . The days of lying to consumers about supply chain issues is over no one I know believes it . Good luck KIA.
I'd certainly look at the Kia personally. I've had a lifetime of Datsun and Nissan products, all previously used. (I'm a motor mechanic) I decided to buy a D23 Navara in 2017, and I was horrified by the complete lack of ANY kind of customer service from Nissan Australia and its dealers. We also have a Kia Cerato sedan and the customer experience could not be further apart. Definitely worth a look when it lobs. The engine/s would need to be around 150kw and 500nm to be competitive in the market and not have ongoing DPF issues like Toyota and Isuzu do.
As a diehard Holden driver I’m waiting for this with baited breath. Let’s hope it is up there with the Ranger for power and torque in the 6 cylinder range.
Looking forward to seeing if the new Kia ute or the HiLux, Triton or Navara can top what Ford's done with the Ranger/Everest. Also if and when Nissan will refresh the Patrol and where it and the Prado will sit price-wise relative to the dual-cab ute-based wagons.
It will need to be very different from the plethora of utes current. It will need to offer items that the others do not - like independent suspension all round, front and rear differential locks, high trim levels in space cab, not just double cab, larger fuel capacity than 80 litres, moon/sun roof, 8 speed paddle shift, decent low range reduction better than 2.7:1 ratio, slide out cargo floor and electric cargo lid, to name a few.
We bought a 2020 Kia Cerato a few years ago brand new. It's incredible, leather interior, DAB, Apple/Android connectivity, GPS, dual zone climate control, heated front seats, all the safety gear and a 7yr unlimited km warranty. Almost 3yrs on and very satisfied with the car and after-sales support. I can't wait to see their Ute!! But they have some serious competition with the GWM and LDV, give these manufacturers another 2yrs and they will both be doing really well in the market. My dad bought a GWM Cannon last year and it is great!! It's a comfy ride, with lots of room in the rear seat (I'm 182cm). Leather interior, Apple/Android connectivity, dual-zone connectivity, front diff lock, all the safety gear and a 7yr unlimited km warranty. 12mths on and it's been really reliable whilst they've been travelling with their caravan. This is the market KIA need to compete with initially and it's going to be a hard market for KIA to compete against initially.
The two huge problems that Kia will face are: 1) Hiluxes are bought by people who think Toyota's are bulletproof. To be fair, many work utes (those that do hard yakka daily as opposed to the tricked-up 4WD weekend warrior vehicles are Toyotas for reliability and minimal downtime; and 2) The former Holden Ute and Falcon Ute buyers who still believe "Made in Japan no goody" gravitated to Colorado (now extinct here) and Ranger. The Colorado buyers had to either begrudgingly become a Ford owner or stump up the dollars for a Silverado!
If they want to be successful in South Africa they must have a diverse pricing strategy. Make a bottom of the range with back bumpers and pvc lining inside, no radio. Vinyl seats, make single cab, club cab. Price properly, dont run after Hilux and ranger money,
disappointed if the images are anything to go by in relation to the rear overhang as this seems to be a major issue with many current utes as once weight added to the rear of a ute with so much overhang past rear axle there is a number of issues that arise. most are worse especially on undulating or corrugated roads, 1 chassis snapping 2 ride comfort 3 departure angle 4 need for higher rated springs and im guessing it would also affect towing abilities.
U say us Aussies are 🤠 fussy I can remember not long ago great Wall just packed up and left Australia and that's what you see in plaque perportions in 2023im very confident Kia will nail it 100% cheers cobbas ✌️🤠👍
The fact that Kia has placed so much importance on aAustralia and supports our industries is enough for me to buy it. Plus its a great product by any measure.
Hopefully this Kia/Hyundai is better put together than my iLoad - turbo stopped working at 85k - no warranty (wear and tear), rear door seal leaked after 3 years, entertainment system stopped working after 5 years, central locking now only works on some doors, internal lights only work on some doors, reversing camera has been repaired 3 times but still only works sometimes. This van has the worst brakes -have to replace rotors every 2 years and brake pads almost every year. The traction control is appalling and engages every few meters and gear change when it has rained. So, good luck!
It will be interesting to see what they finally offer. Regarding slow development cycles, for ease of getting spare parts in regional areas it is a good thing to a certain extent
Long warrantys are a good idea, however you do become a captive to the dealership in a kinda way, you know, get your work done outside the dealership and although the law states, that you have recourse if the work is done by a fully qualified mechanic, however, with modern complex electronics you still need the dealerships.
As a previous sportage owner, id buy KIA in a heartbeat vs the super expensive Fords/Toyotas or the el cheapo Chinesium Utes. If the KIA is as good all around as the Triton and in that price range it'll sell well.
Nup, i will stick with my Valiant Wayfarer. It will still be going with a million k's on it plus, when the Kia has blown up after 160,000k's! POS! The Val may not have power windows, or bucket seats, but it doesn't break down, and when it does i can fix it myself, it may not be fast, but it will tow my boat much better than the Kiarap. Not as easy to get a speeding ticket in the Val, and being a bench seat the Missus can get Real close! Nope you can shove the Kiarap up your fundamental orifice!
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@@rich7447 Nope, only med or low end ram and trx. Those cost double or triple what they do in usa. Only real competition for mainstream market are the Chinese.
Honestly, I don't see this taking off for them. They never had a strong body-on-frame offerings in America and those that they still sell in other countries are questionable at best. Also like always recent Hyundai-Kia products were lead by the head engineer Albert Bermann as the star engineering "hitman". However, he never had any experience designing or developing such offroad capable body on frame truck or SUV when he was at BMW. Yes he did engineer the E70 X5/X6, X3, X1 and what not but those aren't it. In fact this area isn't most of the European car manufactuer's forte. They need to hire entirely new engineers (probably American) that knows about trucks and offroad vehicles and that is an expensive commitment. I said American because even the head engineer behind the 4Runner, Sequoia, Tacoma and Tundra is a man named Mike Sweers, not Japanese. I mean they could try to pick up couple of Japanese engineers from Toyota that worked on Hilux or Land Cruiser or something, but I don't think they would do that given the two countries' animosity. Then there is the problem of reliability and loyalty. Again their reliability is questionable and these pickups and offroad vehicles have a very strong loyalty. Hyundai does sell buses and trucks for commercial use in other countries. Yes those does count as body on frame. However, not only did those FAILED to capture any market from the established American, Japanese and some Western European truck manufacturers, they have even bigger issues to worry about as Russian, Chinese and even Indian truck manufacturers such as Kamaz, Gaz, Ural, Dongfeng, Foton, Mahindra and Tata are hot on their tail. Indeed in third world countries where originally the Koreans had held advantage over the more expensive Japanese and American manufacturers, their truck lines are being replaced by the said 3 countries. This is because they offer the same capability but cheaper, and if you want more reliability, you can step upto more expensive Japanese Hino, or Isuzu, or Fuso and UD trucks, so what's the point of buyng middle ground Hyundai? Yeah so in those countries we have predominantly those manufacturers and older Japanese and American trucks.
I have a diesel Kia Sportage and love it so much, I've ordered a new one. I also have a Mazda BT 50. I was looking in the next few years to upgrade it to the DMax/BT or even the Triton (because of their 10 year warranty) but what puts me off the Triton is the small engine. I really want an engine at least 3 litres, so the new Kia ute would certainly be of interest to me.
really wish I could get the Wildtrack with springs at the back. The whole idea that springs is only for rally champions and red bull racers wanting to do jumps is just silly. Adds a level of comfort for day to day driving as well as extra articulation just crawling around 4x4. Raptor should offer the v6 Diesel
I had a Kia Sorrento 04 model. 200 000 km .The body is good and interior is great but I can’t get a replacement engine. I will never buy Kia again. Diesel v6, I can see the bottom end snapping like a land rover.😂
I believe that Kia is on a path to seriously disrupt the auto industry with multiple options and affordable prices such as BMW higher grade electronics on Kia vehicles at a much lower price . And with a warranty far better . I expect this to eventually to flow into their truck market too .
VW did it with the Amarok. They went in cold and established a solid truck. Kia probably has a better reliability record and parts distribution in far flung parts of OZ would no doubt be better. Will take a lot to drag hard core Ford and Toyota fans away.... A 7 year warranty would certainly help. Any modern ute these days is not built to last -
Having just bought my wife the sportage she wanted to replace her kluga with and the f150 and Silverado way over priced, Kia Tasman is definitely on the list to replace my hilux.
Unfortunately I can't forget how bad my friends Kia Rios (plural) were. Some dual cab ute owners are hard core and would take a fair bit of convincing, the majority however are not. It is just a fashion statement that will never be used as the original dual cabs were intended. If F-trucks, Chev's, Rams and Tundra's were more affordable here, everyone would have one.
You would think so, investment into diesel vehicles is a waste of time with the ban getting ever closer to 2030. So will use left over motors and then move to Ev hopefully sooner rather then later
And just how will our piss poor power infrastructure cope with all the extra demand to charge all these EV’s? I’m guessing it will be at night when you’re not driving it, so solars no good🤔 I know from the batteries no one’s built to store all this wonderful renewable energy. Oh man we are so smart that nobody’s given any real thought or seems to of come up with a plan that will get us to the goal by 2030. What happens to all the electrical waste as the batteries and motors fail? They WILL all have an expiry date on their service life, as everything else that is manufactured, they won’t last for ever!!
@@KoreyByrne Diesel’s will never be band in fact I’d bet EV die before diesels get band. Once you understand CO2 and how it all links together with oil then you’ll understand you’ve been lied too. Oil is actually organic.
If Kia can offer the V6 at a killer price point they will own the market and kill Ford and Toyota. If they price it like a Ranger then it will do incremental business.
I think we're in for a big shake-up as the UTE (nee Truck) market in the USA has collapsed as people return in droves to Cars - for Kia it is too little too late.
I remember many years ago Kia made a van although the Staria is available now but it was made to take on the Hiace did it succeed no were are the old Kia vans gone l did see one the other day and that reminded me this new Kia Ute it will most likely be another comercial vehicle failure and l still see plenty of older Toyota Hiaces around Australia Post are starting to use them and the Ambulance service are testing a Hiace Ambulance around Campbelltown N.S.W because Toyota's are very reliable and there are a lot of new Hiaces on the road than crappy Kia Starias
Honestly too little too late. Why do I say that? Same reason that you state. The specifications that you mention is a copy of what is being offered now. It is beyond me, how a company that speaks out loud, that they are going to make high initial sales, intends to offer standard specifications for the market.
Lol....no specs and you already ready too jump.....see you done your homework. I suggest you sell your Ranger as you dont deserve one. Go buy a Nissan leaf
Why do so many people pour so much money into an “asset” like a motor vehicle? From my point of view they aren’t an “asset” more so a liability. They decline in value with every km and year you put on it, and they cost money to run with fuel, servicing, insurance and registration etc. A lot of expense to shift a person from point A to point B! Think about it!
if you really look for reliability then go buy an old one since new ones do have more advanced digital tech (especially the infotainment) but for me it makes those vehicles less reliable. Car manufacturers nowadays care more about the stock market than its customers. Good old things are still the greatest!
I think you can still get a half-ton / full-size 3L Duramax diesel truck. The Ecodiesel & the 3L Powerstroke is discontinued though. Edit: Also blame the chicken tax.
The Stinger didn't really make any good impression in South Africa. I have seen 3 Kia Stinger's in 5 years on our roads, also the one's that were launched here in South Africa was only a 2.0L turbo. I apologize! We did have a 3.3L V6 turbo model. There is a 2018 model for sale at R541 900 with 66 500km on the speedo.
I’m in a Job where the state Govt let’s me choose whatever 4x4 I want every yr or so as what I do everyday is what most 4x4 enthusiasts or retirees plan and save for, also cost is not an issue either in my case so I get trick out whatever I want on my utility. Anyway my 2cents on the KIA and from our industry contracts advise is keep an eye on it as it is designed to grind down the competition. Hyundai and Kia did not become successful in Australia by accident and their primary products in the real world are Ship building and Military vehicles manufacturing. They know heavy industry and know how to build off road vehicles.
@@Aaron.13 just like the Stinger hey? Yeah that went well. That car summed it up well, people don't want a mediocre model to what else is already out there. Surely everyone understands how companies like Kia can make them cheaper than other manufacturers.. they don't just make them cost less because they are nice people.. it's because they use cheap materials, how confident would you be heading out in the outback in a Kia.. Fkd if I would
@@hobo1704 Did you use the Stinger as an example because it suits your narrative? How about the Kia Sportage or 1 of there other models that sell reasonably well for what they are..If you read my reply properly you would of noticed that i said “if they get it right”, i didn’t mention if they do a “mediocre” job of it. You need to get with the times, out of the hundreds of thousands of dual cab utes sold how many actually take them to the “outback”.. Kia’s biggest battle will be people like you who have a pre determined mindset, but look how far they have come in the last 10 years..FYI i have never owned and have no intention of owning a Kia..
What do you think of the new Kia Ute??
They should make a PHEV diesel that can tow long distances but run on battery for short journeys around town.
If this thing is coming to Australia then it has to have the the Stinger engine as an option. TT V6 Petrol. Make a Diesel model, but give us something killa as well.
I would buy one if it had the TT V6, and the dealer didn’t try to shaft me with 70% mark up.
$86k for a Stinger, get a grip.
@@nicholasash9389 Explains the personalised numberplate "STUNG".
Body too big, tray too small. Like all the other utes in Australia
@@EuanHouzahmi like GWM soon coming
I have a Colorado at the moment, and since GM and Holden gave up on Australia I'd honestly give one of these a genuine look over when replacement time comes. Kia's come a long way and have some seriously impressive offerings in other categories now.
I think there would be enough people here in Australia who would buy a live front axle ute; even if it was a $3000 option. This would signal to people that it is a serious ute, not a SUV. This would be their point of difference that they'd need to stand out in a crowded marketplace. Coupled with the 3.0L V6 Diesel and front and rear lockers and we have a deal.
Say that to the Ineos Grenadier. Not a lot of buyers apparently. And it’s made for off roading. The market is deceptive.
Like a gladiator.
To be honest, I have no interest in going off road and flog the ute through ditches and over rocks. A simple rear wheel drive double cap family vechile will do for me.
@@j...bro.jeep gladiator is easily the ugliest Ute ever made. Hilux SR5 from about 2020 onwards is a beautiful vehicle.
As a truck driver that until recently was driving a car carrier and delivering all kinds of cars, I would buy a Kia or Hyundai in a heartbeat. They make very impressive cars at a better price than others (except for the Chinese junk on the market).
I own a 2014 Hyundai i40 and can say it's a very nice car with plenty of get up and go, had an 05 BF Falcon before it and the i40 is as quick accelerating to overtake as it was but without the torque
Once upon a time Japanese brands and later the Korean brands were also called junk.
Once upon a time Japanese brands and later the Korean brands were also called junk.
Once upon a time Japanese brands and later the Korean brands were also called junk.
Once upon a time Japanese brands and later the Korean brands were also called junk.
We have started with the Kia carnival, then bought a Sorento, 350 km and still running well. We also have a 4yo Sportage. All of these cars have never ever left us on the side of the road with a breakdown. I personally drive a 2016 Hilux also 350 km and have a 2007 Hilux which just had a new engine transplant. I also had a new Hilux before that one.
So i would still pass up a new Hilux for a untested Kia ute because the driving experience we get and have had from Kia far outweighs my time with Toyota. If the price is comparable and is as reliable as our other Kia cars, Then you new Kia ute for me
I would buy one tomorrow! Kia has quickly become one of my favourite car manufacturers
I'm pretty excited to see this come out mainly because Kia's vehicle design language is far better than most of its competitors. If they get this ute right and make it not just another ute but a family friendly ute they will steal alot of the family market away from people who might typically buy a ranger or a Hilux.
Most families don't buy ute's though. They make really "*%&^%" family vehicles. Compromised in many ways. They are great vehicles for trades (doubling as a family vehicle) and farms though. I agree on the design language comment. ;)
@@Rally4Life1982 Here in Australia the #1 selling vehicle last year was the ford ranger ute .
@@PeterGraham Because most of Australia is karoo
I say they need to bring it here to the US. With Kia's better pricing and more features, if it's nearly on par with the market, it would be worth highly considering. Besides, most people don't use their trucks near their capabilities to begin with. If it tows and hauls 7/8th of the market average, I'd consider it.
the US has the Hyundai Santa Cruz though
In the dual cab market a full size rear seat and a full size tray would win a lot of customers. Not sure if legislation restrictions has stopped this so far.
3.0lt V6, nice tug replacement for my 2014 Grand Cherokee👍👍
Will need an 8 speed & 3.5t towing
Keen for the kia ute. Praying, crossing fingers and toes for a high performance variant. Missed out on buying a hoon ute (fpv or ss) would love to see that stinger engine slapped into a road focussed ute.
It must have a higher GVM and GCM than the Ford Ranger. People want to actually be able to tow 3500kg legally. If they do that it will pull buyers back from Ram and landcruiser sales. A lot people are forced into those utes because the others won't do the job legally. I have a 79 ute and hate it but a hilux won't tow enough and the new ranger is unreliable. It would be nice if it had the straight 6 diesel not the v6 along with Awd, rear disc brakes and coil suspension all around.
Exactly the utes in Aus are too small for a lot of trades
At last another man who has a brain and hates Landcruisers and sees them for what they are.
I hear you champ, and you’re so right there is nothing else on the market except for a smaller GVM truck like an Isuzu or a Mitsubishi Canter or similar to do that work. They are about as comfortable as an over priced cruiser😂😂😂
Any manufacturer that can build a new ute and deliver it at an affordable price to stop current manufacturers ripping the consumer's Of. The prices established companies Are charging makes Ned Kelly look like choir boy . The days of lying to consumers about supply chain issues is over no one I know believes it . Good luck KIA.
I'd certainly look at the Kia personally.
I've had a lifetime of Datsun and Nissan products, all previously used. (I'm a motor mechanic)
I decided to buy a D23 Navara in 2017, and I was horrified by the complete lack of ANY kind of customer service from Nissan Australia and its dealers.
We also have a Kia Cerato sedan and the customer experience could not be further apart.
Definitely worth a look when it lobs.
The engine/s would need to be around 150kw and 500nm to be competitive in the market and not have ongoing DPF issues like Toyota and Isuzu do.
As a diehard Holden driver I’m waiting for this with baited breath. Let’s hope it is up there with the Ranger for power and torque in the 6 cylinder range.
Looking forward to seeing if the new Kia ute or the HiLux, Triton or Navara can top what Ford's done with the Ranger/Everest. Also if and when Nissan will refresh the Patrol and where it and the Prado will sit price-wise relative to the dual-cab ute-based wagons.
It will need to be very different from the plethora of utes current. It will need to offer items that the others do not - like independent suspension all round, front and rear differential locks, high trim levels in space cab, not just double cab, larger fuel capacity than 80 litres, moon/sun roof, 8 speed paddle shift, decent low range reduction better than 2.7:1 ratio, slide out cargo floor and electric cargo lid, to name a few.
We bought a 2020 Kia Cerato a few years ago brand new. It's incredible, leather interior, DAB, Apple/Android connectivity, GPS, dual zone climate control, heated front seats, all the safety gear and a 7yr unlimited km warranty. Almost 3yrs on and very satisfied with the car and after-sales support.
I can't wait to see their Ute!! But they have some serious competition with the GWM and LDV, give these manufacturers another 2yrs and they will both be doing really well in the market.
My dad bought a GWM Cannon last year and it is great!! It's a comfy ride, with lots of room in the rear seat (I'm 182cm). Leather interior, Apple/Android connectivity, dual-zone connectivity, front diff lock, all the safety gear and a 7yr unlimited km warranty. 12mths on and it's been really reliable whilst they've been travelling with their caravan.
This is the market KIA need to compete with initially and it's going to be a hard market for KIA to compete against initially.
Kia are a step ahead of most manufacturers
Agreed!
💯%… but I’m becoming concerned with the current engine issues😬
Only gwm Mitzi and san yong would be equal to Kia
😂
They are good reverse engineers
The two huge problems that Kia will face are:
1) Hiluxes are bought by people who think Toyota's are bulletproof. To be fair, many work utes (those that do hard yakka daily as opposed to the tricked-up 4WD weekend warrior vehicles are Toyotas for reliability and minimal downtime; and
2) The former Holden Ute and Falcon Ute buyers who still believe "Made in Japan no goody" gravitated to Colorado (now extinct here) and Ranger. The Colorado buyers had to either begrudgingly become a Ford owner or stump up the dollars for a Silverado!
If they want to be successful in South Africa they must have a diverse pricing strategy. Make a bottom of the range with back bumpers and pvc lining inside, no radio. Vinyl seats, make single cab, club cab. Price properly, dont run after Hilux and ranger money,
disappointed if the images are anything to go by in relation to the rear overhang as this seems to be a major issue with many current utes as once weight added to the rear of a ute with so much overhang past rear axle there is a number of issues that arise. most are worse especially on undulating or corrugated roads, 1 chassis snapping 2 ride comfort 3 departure angle 4 need for higher rated springs and im guessing it would also affect towing abilities.
Real Utes have two doors.
U say us Aussies are 🤠 fussy I can remember not long ago great Wall just packed up and left Australia and that's what you see in plaque perportions in 2023im very confident Kia will nail it 100% cheers cobbas ✌️🤠👍
The fact that Kia has placed so much importance on aAustralia and supports our industries is enough for me to buy it. Plus its a great product by any measure.
I have a Ranger now & a Hilux before that, I would by a Kia in a heartbeat.
Would definitely be interested, but they must have the V6 and 3500kg tow capacity if they want this to be successful.
I’ve got a Kia Stinger and a Jeep Wrangler CRD.
I’d buy their ute in a heartbeat. The Jeep would be for sale and two Kia’s in the driveway.
Hopefully this Kia/Hyundai is better put together than my iLoad - turbo stopped working at 85k - no warranty (wear and tear), rear door seal leaked after 3 years, entertainment system stopped working after 5 years, central locking now only works on some doors, internal lights only work on some doors, reversing camera has been repaired 3 times but still only works sometimes. This van has the worst brakes -have to replace rotors every 2 years and brake pads almost every year. The traction control is appalling and engages every few meters and gear change when it has rained. So, good luck!
It will be interesting to see what they finally offer.
Regarding slow development cycles, for ease of getting spare parts in regional areas it is a good thing to a certain extent
Kia diesel engines are amazing. Hope they produce a manual one
Let’s hope it gets the v6 and it will be a winner 🥇
Hope the price is reasonable, hilux, Ranger, Dmax are not.
Long warrantys are a good idea, however you do become a captive to the dealership in a kinda way, you know, get your work done outside the dealership and although the law states, that you have recourse if the work is done by a fully qualified mechanic, however, with modern complex electronics you still need the dealerships.
A ute not made in Thailand. A revolutionarily good idea 🎉
Must have 4x4 with rear locking diff and crawl control. With king shocks
Why would a car company developed a car specifically for a country with a small market.
I am literally sitting here waiting for Kia to take my money. As soon as this ute hits their website I am placing an order.
How well did the Merc on a Nissan go??? was it slapped to geather,, and was it too little too late for them too?
... that one was simply overpriced and didn't even have a Benz engine
As a previous sportage owner, id buy KIA in a heartbeat vs the super expensive Fords/Toyotas or the el cheapo Chinesium Utes. If the KIA is as good all around as the Triton and in that price range it'll sell well.
How about the GV80’s diesel? 🤔
Unlikely, but a possible option!
I can't wait the competition to make the UTE price became down down down 😊
Matt. The Kia Ute sounds very promising but I only want a 2024 Kia Picanto.
To put in the back of your KIA ute?
@@task82 good one 🙂
is the peugeout ute on sale there in Australia?
Nope!
Peugeot don’t sell that well here
@@maxd4968 okay..though the landtrek looks nice
is there really a ute from Peugeout? I know than Fiat & Ram has small & very compact utes but they're only sold in Latin America.
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnlyep, called a landtrek.
Nup, i will stick with my Valiant Wayfarer. It will still be going with a million k's on it plus, when the Kia has blown up after 160,000k's! POS! The Val may not have power windows, or bucket seats, but it doesn't break down, and when it does i can fix it myself, it may not be fast, but it will tow my boat much better than the Kiarap. Not as easy to get a speeding ticket in the Val, and being a bench seat the Missus can get Real close! Nope you can shove the Kiarap up your fundamental orifice!
Well I would go the old valiant wayfarer. Any day.
Biggest mistake of my life was selling my valiant safari! Only station wagon i know you could dance on the hood & not dent it.
@shanepenfold4742 one of the best looking Ute in it day
Been waiting for a Kia ute.
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Needs triple lockers to be competitive against tank 300
Do you get the Ram Power Wagon in Australia? It gets lockers front and back and a part time 4wd transfer case.
@@rich7447 Nope, only med or low end ram and trx. Those cost double or triple what they do in usa. Only real competition for mainstream market are the Chinese.
@@hi9580 That's too bad. It probably has something to do with the Power Wagon being a 2500.
Honestly, I don't see this taking off for them. They never had a strong body-on-frame offerings in America and those that they still sell in other countries are questionable at best. Also like always recent Hyundai-Kia products were lead by the head engineer Albert Bermann as the star engineering "hitman". However, he never had any experience designing or developing such offroad capable body on frame truck or SUV when he was at BMW. Yes he did engineer the E70 X5/X6, X3, X1 and what not but those aren't it.
In fact this area isn't most of the European car manufactuer's forte. They need to hire entirely new engineers (probably American) that knows about trucks and offroad vehicles and that is an expensive commitment. I said American because even the head engineer behind the 4Runner, Sequoia, Tacoma and Tundra is a man named Mike Sweers, not Japanese. I mean they could try to pick up couple of Japanese engineers from Toyota that worked on Hilux or Land Cruiser or something, but I don't think they would do that given the two countries' animosity.
Then there is the problem of reliability and loyalty. Again their reliability is questionable and these pickups and offroad vehicles have a very strong loyalty.
Hyundai does sell buses and trucks for commercial use in other countries. Yes those does count as body on frame. However, not only did those FAILED to capture any market from the established American, Japanese and some Western European truck manufacturers, they have even bigger issues to worry about as Russian, Chinese and even Indian truck manufacturers such as Kamaz, Gaz, Ural, Dongfeng, Foton, Mahindra and Tata are hot on their tail. Indeed in third world countries where originally the Koreans had held advantage over the more expensive Japanese and American manufacturers, their truck lines are being replaced by the said 3 countries. This is because they offer the same capability but cheaper, and if you want more reliability, you can step upto more expensive Japanese Hino, or Isuzu, or Fuso and UD trucks, so what's the point of buyng middle ground Hyundai? Yeah so in those countries we have predominantly those manufacturers and older Japanese and American trucks.
I have a diesel Kia Sportage and love it so much, I've ordered a new one.
I also have a Mazda BT 50. I was looking in the next few years to upgrade it to the DMax/BT or even the Triton (because of their 10 year warranty) but what puts me off the Triton is the small engine.
I really want an engine at least 3 litres, so the new Kia ute would certainly be of interest to me.
Will it last? Reliability is the most important thing not looks or price. What good is it if it’s broken in 2 - 3 yrs?
I was alot more excited when I heard that Kia would be putting a 205 kw straight six turbo diesel in the Tasman.
really wish I could get the Wildtrack with springs at the back. The whole idea that springs is only for rally champions and red bull racers wanting to do jumps is just silly. Adds a level of comfort for day to day driving as well as extra articulation just crawling around 4x4. Raptor should offer the v6 Diesel
I had a Kia Sorrento 04 model. 200 000 km .The body is good and interior is great but I can’t get a replacement engine. I will never buy Kia again. Diesel v6, I can see the bottom end snapping like a land rover.😂
Sadly this is the world we live in aye!! Buy it break it bin it!!
I’m surprised not much meantion of ev or hybrid power trains. Kia has form for it, and by time comes out in 2025, people be looking for that
I believe that Kia is on a path to seriously disrupt the auto industry with multiple options and affordable prices such as BMW higher grade electronics on Kia vehicles at a much lower price . And with a warranty far better . I expect this to eventually to flow into their truck market too .
VW did it with the Amarok. They went in cold and established a solid truck. Kia probably has a better reliability record and parts distribution in far flung parts of OZ would no doubt be better.
Will take a lot to drag hard core Ford and Toyota fans away.... A 7 year warranty would certainly help.
Any modern ute these days is not built to last -
Only one! a 79 tank!
As an N owner.. Im excited for the Tasman.. Maybe my next car, when I'm done popping and farting around Melbourne lol
Having just bought my wife the sportage she wanted to replace her kluga with and the f150 and Silverado way over priced, Kia Tasman is definitely on the list to replace my hilux.
Unfortunately I can't forget how bad my friends Kia Rios (plural) were. Some dual cab ute owners are hard core and would take a fair bit of convincing, the majority however are not. It is just a fashion statement that will never be used as the original dual cabs were intended. If F-trucks, Chev's, Rams and Tundra's were more affordable here, everyone would have one.
I'm in the market for a new dual cab Ute but it must be an ev, bangers begone!
I like it’s longs as it’s cheeper than the over priced big 3
Is it going to be like sangyong...and the short lived life of the Mercedes ute?
quite a looker that is❤❤
Haha a little bit of photoshop 😅
Kia has come a long way and I would consider buying one but would only prefer petrol.
I’ve been waiting and still waiting.
I glaze over when people say “looks the part” IRT something dull like a family crossover snot box. What part?
V6 turbo diesel!!!! good for towing, Hells yeah!!!!
I don’t think there will be a problem breaking into the market look at how many Chinese and Indian utes art on the roads now
Great vid.
I would love to see this come to America. The current Fords are priced much to high.
Do you think they will do a electric one, given the ev6 and ev9, i though an EV ue would be the next logical step and that would set them apart
You would think so, investment into diesel vehicles is a waste of time with the ban getting ever closer to 2030. So will use left over motors and then move to Ev hopefully sooner rather then later
And just how will our piss poor power infrastructure cope with all the extra demand to charge all these EV’s?
I’m guessing it will be at night when you’re not driving it, so solars no good🤔
I know from the batteries no one’s built to store all this wonderful renewable energy. Oh man we are so smart that nobody’s given any real thought or seems to of come up with a plan that will get us to the goal by 2030.
What happens to all the electrical waste as the batteries and motors fail? They WILL all have an expiry date on their service life, as everything else that is manufactured, they won’t last for ever!!
@@KoreyByrne Diesel’s will never be band in fact I’d bet EV die before diesels get band. Once you understand CO2 and how it all links together with oil then you’ll understand you’ve been lied too. Oil is actually organic.
If Kia can offer the V6 at a killer price point they will own the market and kill Ford and Toyota. If they price it like a Ranger then it will do incremental business.
Kia beat Toyota! Mate you are fricken dreaming!
Let me guess, you like Toyota?
I would like to inform you it isn't a ute, it's a pickup. Ute's have complete full side not a removable tub.
ok.. im interested... whats the release date..?
A decent and engine and competitive price would cement the deal.
I think we're in for a big shake-up as the UTE (nee Truck) market in the USA has collapsed as people return in droves to Cars - for Kia it is too little too late.
I remember many years ago Kia made a van although the Staria is available now but it was made to take on the Hiace did it succeed no were are the old Kia vans gone l did see one the other day and that reminded me this new Kia Ute it will most likely be another comercial vehicle failure and l still see plenty of older Toyota Hiaces around Australia Post are starting to use them and the Ambulance service are testing a Hiace Ambulance around Campbelltown N.S.W because Toyota's are very reliable and there are a lot of new Hiaces on the road than crappy Kia Starias
Kia gearbox needs to be rectified. It gets overheated easily.
Honestly too little too late. Why do I say that? Same reason that you state. The specifications that you mention is a copy of what is being offered now. It is beyond me, how a company that speaks out loud, that they are going to make high initial sales, intends to offer standard specifications for the market.
Hope they have a luxury $200k version
Can’t wait. If it has a v6 diesel, I’ll ditch my new ranger and buy one of those.
Lol....no specs and you already ready too jump.....see you done your homework.
I suggest you sell your Ranger as you dont deserve one.
Go buy a Nissan leaf
Ram offers an inline 6 diesel. I had one for 12 years and loved it. Then it rusted.
A KIA V8 diesel hybrid/electric, paired with a decent 8 speed auto transmission, could be a modern version of the Humvee or LandCruiser 79 series.
Ute buyers look for reliability, so it should sell well. Toyota and Ford both have reliability issues.
Yet they are the biggest sellers. Smart buyers look for reliability, most clearly aren't.
Why do so many people pour so much money into an “asset” like a motor vehicle? From my point of view they aren’t an “asset” more so a liability.
They decline in value with every km and year you put on it, and they cost money to run with fuel, servicing, insurance and registration etc.
A lot of expense to shift a person from point A to point B!
Think about it!
if you really look for reliability then go buy an old one since new ones do have more advanced digital tech (especially the infotainment) but for me it makes those vehicles less reliable. Car manufacturers nowadays care more about the stock market than its customers. Good old things are still the greatest!
This will deliver serious competition.
How far in kms on 1 full charge? Its nowhere,
Sounds like an IT spinning auto industry yadda yadda.. I’d appreciate experience report..
I really hate how we don't get Diesel motors in the US unless it's a heavy duty truck.
I think you can still get a half-ton / full-size 3L Duramax diesel truck. The Ecodiesel & the 3L Powerstroke is discontinued though.
Edit: Also blame the chicken tax.
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl It's actually EPA regs that make diesels difficult in anything with a GVWR under 8,501 lbs.
Lets review it in 5 years
The Stinger didn't really make any good impression in South Africa. I have seen 3 Kia Stinger's in 5 years on our roads, also the one's that were launched here in South Africa was only a 2.0L turbo. I apologize! We did have a 3.3L V6 turbo model. There is a 2018 model for sale at R541 900 with 66 500km on the speedo.
Can't wait
Do the review amd hype of the gwm shanhai poer ute
What about the rumours about the straight 6 diesel
Is this available in the Pjolippines?
Hope it dsnt run the same motor in the USA,, or they fixed it,, the head bolt aren’t threaded in far enough and the heads strip the threads out,
I’m in a Job where the state Govt let’s me choose whatever 4x4 I want every yr or so as what I do everyday is what most 4x4 enthusiasts or retirees plan and save for, also cost is not an issue either in my case so I get trick out whatever I want on my utility. Anyway my 2cents on the KIA and from our industry contracts advise is keep an eye on it as it is designed to grind down the competition. Hyundai and Kia did not become successful in Australia by accident and their primary products in the real world are Ship building and Military vehicles manufacturing. They know heavy industry and know how to build off road vehicles.
Mid size? Where are the small ones?
No way Australian 4wd people are even going to consider this thing..
People said the about a Volkswagen.. 🤷
Maybe not initially, but if the get it right and persist with it I think it will sell..
@@mickromer6199 VW is a bit better than a Kia mate. Look at the history of what they have made over the years compared to Kia. Whole different league.
@@Aaron.13 just like the Stinger hey? Yeah that went well. That car summed it up well, people don't want a mediocre model to what else is already out there. Surely everyone understands how companies like Kia can make them cheaper than other manufacturers.. they don't just make them cost less because they are nice people.. it's because they use cheap materials, how confident would you be heading out in the outback in a Kia.. Fkd if I would
@@hobo1704
Did you use the Stinger as an example because it suits your narrative? How about the Kia Sportage or 1 of there other models that sell reasonably well for what they are..If you read my reply properly you would of noticed that i said “if they get it right”, i didn’t mention if they do a “mediocre” job of it. You need to get with the times, out of the hundreds of thousands of dual cab utes sold how many actually take them to the “outback”..
Kia’s biggest battle will be people like you who have a pre determined mindset, but look how far they have come in the last 10 years..FYI i have never owned and have no intention of owning a Kia..
It's going to be hard to get past previous recal issues from KIA
Till you have one for 5 years then they show there true colour
Means??😅
@@azhar5912 shitbox and bad support
Picanto in a Ute version would be sick. Kind of like a 4 wheeled Piaggio ape.