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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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If you didn't like learning them in school, just imagine being the teacher of a room full of recorders all playing at the same time. She is not only a fabulous player but she is patient.
ik, I wish she was my teacher 😢
And the cheap plastic POSs the students are playing on. I've always thought that if you're gonna learn the recorder, then you should learn on a _proper_ recorder.
A room full of *cheap* recorders all playing *badly* at the same time, I think you meant to say...
@@dancoroian1 Could be worse, could be a room full of cheap violins, all playing badly at the same time. :)
Yes
Lucie sounds like a graceful bird. Brett & Eddy sound like teakettles with anxiety! 😂
No, they’re just clowns 🤡
@@andrewcordle2424 lmao what
@@andrewzhang8512
My comment is clear… If you have seen any of their other videos you would know exactly what I’m saying 🤷🏼♂️
"teakettles with anxiety" is a wonderful turn of phrase
Exactly! What a beautiful way to put it!
Now I see what was missing from all those painful recorder playing sessions we had in school. They basically just stuck a toy in our hands and we blew as hard as we could. All the nuances of technique Lucie explains here completely ignored in the chase to play loudest, most off-pitch note possible 😂
Bro it would be just an hour of squeaky cries from the recorder
Also the recorders we had at school were cheap and sounded cheap, especially the honner ones, those are terrible, and also any colorfull, transparent or filled whith patterns.
But also not even teachers really knew technique, and another problem. Ironically, recorders are not good for kids, because they require patience and precision, things kids suck at, same happens whith watercolours, most kids had the cheapest ones, and weren't given much advice, just, "paint whatever" and many times using print paper, so most paintings looked dirty, you count draw whith the cheap brush cause it didn't have a tip and the paper got all wrinkly or whith holes on them. Same thing, watercolour looks beautiful when done whith decent materials on a paper that can hold it, just because our watercolours sucked doesn't mean the medium is bad, we were were just set up for frustration from the beginning because most teachers don't really care. Patience and precision, those are adult skills
We had recorder lessons at school and we didn't just blow as hard as we could. Maybe that's because we listened to our teacher and cared about doing well.
@@malahamavet very much so
@@onemanfranyeah these other people’s school culture sounds bad. Teachers who didn’t care, kids who just grabbed and did the most violent thing possible to the instrument. My school wasn’t like that either
From roasting you to teaching you. I love how there is no beef between them. It's all for fun.
Well, Phoebe roasted them, but it was all in good fun still. Besides, they're already string players so Phoebe didn't have to teach as much.
@@march.7561 Phoebe? or Lucie?
Lol, I get what you mean but c'mon...classical musicians know nothing about BEEF!!! Hahahaha😂
@@TheRealestIdealist I was there for the east vs west coast Recorder player turf wars. I walked down south central one night when a gang of 6 all beat me senseless with plastic yamaha tenors. Another night a guy jumped me and smacked me in the face with a pillowcase full of headjoints.
@@kishascape LMAOOOO!!! 😂
What a gift for understatement: She's "a professional recorder player." One of the best in the world, actually. She's a gifted player. It's a shame recorders have developed their reputation as annoying kid's instruments. They are serious classical instruments, like all the other woodwinds. Playing their Renaissance and Baroque repertoire is a lot of fun. Good for lots of European folk music, too. Easy to start on, as well, since you can buy a quality instrument fairly cheap. Even the plastic Yamaha and Aulos models are good.
sometimes i think recorders get a bad rap because the musical technique required to play them in tune and with consistent tone is out of reach of so many people.
yeah, the fact that you can start playing decent pieces after a couple of hours of training just means that the instrument is meant to be actually used by humans, unlike khmmm... some other instruments :D
@@0biwan7 It's true, you do need a good ear for pitch, so you're not always blowing sharp or flat, but if you're a budding musician, that's a skill you should already have or will need to develop anyway. I play tin/penny whistles, too, and you encounter the same challenge. But all told, they're much easier than starting on guitar or keys or fretless instruments.
My favourite thing about the recorder is how accessible it is. It’s extremely cheap to start compared to other woodwinds and a plastic Yamaha can take you pretty far.
@@milkteamachine Definitely! They sound amazing for such cheap instruments. No way you'd get started with a guitar or keyboard or violin anywhere near that cheaply.
Brett and Eddy learned to play the recorder in one hour❌️
Brett and Eddy impressed by Professor Lucie's extraordinary recorder playing/flexing for a whole hour✅️
still sounds better than the school music class we all had to painfully go through 🤷♀️
my class had gotten our recorder privileges taken away so I never got to experience it lmao
@@bertramwinkleofficialprivileges✨
Not a flex but never had to experience that 😎
My school didn’t even have a music class 😭
@@zaniyahmuhammad1520you should be happy about that lol
Lucie sounds like a songbird fluttering in the warm summer breeze.
Brett and Eddy sound like songbirds caught in a tornado.
Lucy actually took this challenge seriously. Respect. She is a true teacher.
They wouldn't have made the video if she wasn't teaching them seriously.
Recorder is one of the top tier instrument and not many people are ready for this conversation ✨
I've played recorder for a good amount of time and it absolutely is a serious instrument.
Isn't flute a better recorder?
@@120rikeshlawoju2 hell nah
@@120rikeshlawoju2recorders and transverse flutes do not produce sound in the same way.
I agree. Recorder is very difficult and sounds amazing! Ever heard the Telemann recorder concertos, so good!
Just a small note from 2:46, the recorder is not the only wind instrument you can play and sing at the same time, you can also do that with the flute ^^
Yes, true! I don't know why people separate the recorder from the flute. The recorder is a type of flute. I like to refer to my recorder as a blockflute....only cause "recorder" became a bad word lol
And the Saxophone and the clarinet,…
@@jonaslenz1997 Oh wow, that’s good to know! I would also assume the harmonica, the kazoo, ocarina maybe lol
And french horn. That is a legit technique used in the cadenza of Carl Maria von Weber's Concertino in e minor.
In spanish is called "flauta" so for me is very weird when people says "recorder is not a flute" lol
I like that she talks about what's happening inside your mouth when you play, cause i am tired as a flute player listening to comments like you just blow and move fingers.
In fact when you play a wind instrument you are very aware of what is happening in your mouth and torso ( lungs, abs etc) You play using almost your whole body.
Very much so. Tongue and finger coordination is very important, it's especially obvious on recorder. Any little detail can be heard.
Editor-san, you have once again outdone yourself👏🏻👏🏻 bravo😂 can’t stop laughing with those two sad tea kettles😂
This was awesome. I would LOVE to see the boys take a lesson on baroque violin next. Learning to play a period instrument, on a period bow, and learning some early music playing techniques and phrasing. It's so different than modern violin!
Recorder Gang!!! We are all SO pleased that TwoSetViolin has respect for our beloved instrument!
(finally 😂)
@@Miriam-ob8tz Indeed😅
Lucie has such a playful and encouraging presence. I would love to see more of her!!!
Lucie sounds amazing! The recorder is a beautiful instrument that doesn't deserve its bad rep, and I'm so glad you gave it a chance to shine!
I'm just surprised that Brett and Eddy didn't have to play the recorder as kids. Who else learnt it as their first instrument?
Yeah I started when I was 6 and have been playing for almost 8 years
@@sofiaspiano7892 nice! What a pro!
@@sabrinai I also have been playing piano for 3 years and plan on being a professional pianist in the future
We learned it after elementary school (grade 1-4), but music was just a "it exists" subject without any purpose after like our first two years in German high school and we stopped learning anything really. No music history at all, no more note readings or instrument learning. We never learned chords and we had to make out chords in our final music exam (grade 13). Teacher's solution was to explain it during the exam, but it failed miserably. I'm still bitter about our music education in school.
@@backspacer92 auf was für eine Schule und in welchem Bundesland warst du, dass man euch absolut nicht musiktheotetisches beigebracht hat? Bei uns wurde auch viel gesungen, weil iwie alle das wollten, um nichts machen zu müssen, aber trotzdem hatten wir Theorie. (War bei mir aber trotzdem zu wenig für mein musikwissenschaftliches Studium und ich musste mir alles selber beibringen, um die Klausuren bestehen zu können 😅)
It's actually very interesting to learn about the professional playing techniques!
going on tour and still providing videos for us ? Twoset are just incredible :3
They picked up on these techniques faster that I expected! They were good students and she’s a good teacher.
Here, we can see Eddy in his natural habitat. He uses his nose to play a wooden instrument known as the “recorder” to satisfy his needs.
Professor Lucie has such an amazing sense of humor, aside from being so wickedly talented. 😎👍🏼
wickedly *skilled!* 🤯
The Dutch Wit
Love how Eddy and Lucy are working as a team guiding/celebrating Brett at the end. And I can feel the pressure Brett felt with both of them watching over him lol 6:48
I love watching String players be humbled with wind instruments of any kind. The amount of violin players that said that my instrument was easy because it didn't have complex runs (which it still did btw that's in every instrument) only to be brought down to reality when I told them to play it was staggering. Being told you aren't allowed to breathe whenever you want is VERY uncomfortable when you start out.
Mate that proved nothing…if anything, it proved how easy wind instruments were. Just because two internet personalities are exaggerating their struggles, doesn’t make an instrument objectively difficult at all. While two beginner recorder players are able to play Vivaldi in an hour, I wonder how many wind players can even play twinkle twinkle in one hour on the violin?
@@_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._ Dude, the only person trying to say their instrument is harder is you. I simply said that people who call wind instruments easy quite often get humbled when they try it.
And who can? Hi, me. I am that wind player. It's almost like when you already have a lot of knowledge for musical theory you get to skip quite a few steps in learning an instrument that other beginners don't.
@@_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._at ten, a friend let me borrow his violin for a few minutes and after experimenting a bit, I played twinkle somewhat decently; I only played piano at the time.
Violin is most definitely a hard instrument, but don’t discount other musicians’ ability to learn
I think both instruments are very hard to play idk why a competition has to be brought into everything luv
@@bedroombunny9529 yeah and wind is still easier than strings so cry
I attended to a Luciés concert in France. It’s impressive how her voice change when she speaks in french.
Anyway, after her concert people was crying.
And as recorder player I would LOVE a master class with Lucie !!
I have played that piece and others with Lucie as a guest soloist with my orchestra in Canada. She is delightful to work with.
The recorder was what got me into learning violin!
My older brother taught me recorder when i was young, so a few years later, when the music tutors came to teach us in school, I could already play. This led me to being picked for learning an instrument. Thank you to my older brother 🙏 ❤️
Would you ever consider trying to do one of these videos on the bagpipes?
Oh I would love to see that
@@mariavidineeva2524 speaking as a piper, I would also love to see it! 😄
Completely unrelated to the video: I was recently at an ice skating camp, and I was wearing a TwoSetViolin T shirt that said 40 Hours a Day and Practice on the back four times. At that particular day, a guest came over to the camp from Disney on Ice to speak and kinda teach us. After the main lesson, we had to demonstrate our programs. When I went out to do mine, the guest asked me “Are you wearing a Ling Ling shirt?” I can confirm, there is an ice skating community for TwoSetViolin.
If my music teacher back in the day taught 1% of what Lucie did here, maybe I wouldn’t hate the recorder so much or even like it.
I love how happy and cheerful she gets when they do something right ❤
this is a whole genre of videos at this point
I’ve been playing recorder since I was 4 and this makes me so happy 😊😊😂😂
Somehow still better than my half a year of practice. 🙃
I swear it’s better than my 8 years of playing
hahah I've been learning for over a year and still sound bad, but I love my recorders :) 😃
Keep practicing everybody has it's own development, with time you will be rocking out.
I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet, but it is actually possible to sing into any wind instrument. Woodwind players like clarinets and more commonly saxophones do it in a technique called "growling" to give their sound a dirty quality. Brass players call it multiphonics, and Twoset has actually reacted to it in their "Paganinis of Every Instrument" video. Oystein Baadsvik, the tuba "Paganini" has written several tuba solos that employ multiphonics and the sounds they produce
Yes I think she meant you can literally sing into the instrument and it will resonate out while other wind instruments require some nonstandard multiphonic technique. But that still doesn’t sound like a correct statement.
Yes, I've also encountered it once in my bassoon days.
Eddie had an indirect kiss with Lucie using that white recorder, music does bring people together...!
Who doesn’t love twoset! They are simply awesome!!
Imagine editor-san having to listen to this over and over while editing...
The sequel to the famous recorder vs. violin videos! Welcome recorder gang, finally!
I took part in a recorder ensemble for many years when I was younger, and the noises of them making mistakes just sent me back to the ensemble days... good old times.
Also, I think Eddy might have a German recorder while Brett and Lucy have Baroque ones and that's why the fingering was different on his recorder
This brings back so many memories of playing recorder in the fourth grade, and the weekly tests/checkpoints!
Dunno who is gonna see this, but, elementary school music teacher here! Stop making fun of recorders! Kids at my school LOVE playing the recorder. And believe it or not, I love teaching it. It’s so accessible for kids, and they get so excited to play even the simplest songs. It’s a gateway instrument for so many who go on to play in middle and high school, and beyond. Stop knocking it! Adults may not love the sound, but young kids who can’t afford private instrument lessons can pick up recorder and play fairly sophisticated pieces if they practice. It’s wonderful for kids and schools and it’s my favorite thing to teach.
Also good for learning how to read music!!!
It's not a gateway instrument. It's a destination unto itself. I've heard teachers refer to the recorder as a gateway instrument many times, as a "stepping stone to real instruments like clarinet and saxophone." But it is a great way to introduce children to music.
@@jennipark6107I wouldn't call it a 'gateway' or 'not a real' instrument. It's as difficult with as much repertoire as any other instrument, just the design we commonly know today is about 300 years outdated and can only really play in baroque period orchestras. Adults will definitely like the sound played by an actual professional, not a child, on a handmade concert alto as is the standard. Same with any other instrument really, a plastic piccolo flute played by a beginner would not sound good.
Yes, you can easily make a sound since there's no embouchure or resistance but that doesn't mean it's easy past a beginner standard - similar to the piano. Private lessons are definitely required to progress like any instrument, especially considering most of the repertoire is baroque (i.e. for grade exams), you would need a teacher versed in baroque performance practices.
It's so awesome to see Brett and Eddy giving love to instruments like the recorder- even though they poke fun at them, they still clearly respect them and it's really cool that we get to seen them on their channel! Lucie is amazing and also so patient 😂 living proof recorder is a serious instrument too 🪈
lucie sensei
I know a dutchie when I hear one😂
New challenge: use the the recorder to record something
Lucy is amazing and a dope teacher. As a self taught recorder player at age like 9 lol I’ve always loved the instrument even though I moved on to the clarinet lol and knowing how to play the recorder helped me when learning the clarinet as I was already familiar with the hand placements and such…
You had me at “first form breathing.” 💀 Perfect timing on these recorder videos too because I’m currently re-learning how play mine. 😂
Glad to see Brett and Eddy branching out! Practical niceties about the recorder: it's small, cheap, has no reeds, and as long as intact, won't go out of tune! It's about as simple an instrument as you can get.
And yet it's so hard to play well
I have a few tin whistles. Smaller, cheaper, no reeds either, can't be tuned either, and I prefer the sound. They're much less flexible though - you only have the notes of a specific major scale (D, most commonly), and notes that are not in that scale are quite hard to produce cleanly, so you can really only play tunes in the main major key and its minor parallel, although one step to the flat side in the circle of fifths also works mostly fine (so a tune in G can be played ok on a D whistle).
No idea why first graders are supposed to play recorders instead when the alternative is easier and cheaper (and therefore better to introduce children to making music - I suppose quite a few kids were actually discouraged from making music because they hated playing the recorder in first grade).
@@joycastle. 100% agree. Recorder is a technically complicated instrument. It's makes no sense why it was chosen by the world's school systems as the "beginning" instrument. I have to say out of tradition at this point... Btw, I hear you can get some chromatacisim out of a tin whistle if you use half holes. I should get a few and try it out. I once did have a fife which is the exact same fingering.
@@joshuapettus6973 Well the main reason I see is the lack of any embouchure needed to actually make a sound - you just blow and you make noise. (Doesn't mean it's an easy instrument to master however.) It's also cheap if you mass manufacture in plastic especially with no keywork.
A lot of people were actually against the idea of making recorders the beginner instrument in the 50s exactly for the reasons as seen in this video.
@@joshuapettus6973 Yeah, the half holes work, but it isn't super clean. I suppose with 40h practice per day, you can make it work, but at my amateur level it's always a bit of hit and miss. But music for first graders should be rather simple, anyway, so the limitation isn't a big deal. If I remember correctly, an Irish colleague told me that first graders in Ireland actually learn to play the tin whistle, not the recorder.
her "Pašona kolo" performance was amazing.
THIS IS MY DREAM VIDEO
I thought it was impossible to be good at recorder until these last two videos of TwoSet. Good Educational videos
Hey! It's Lucie! I'm already a long time subscriber of her channel and it's awesome to see her on TwoSet! She's an amazing recorder player. It's cool to see Eddy and Brett playing recorder too.
Thanks for a free master class :D
Hearing her accent I was like “Is she Dutch?” she is Dutch. Go Dutchie. 🌸🇳🇱
What a great way to collaborate between different gangs!!!
I'm not a musician. Never had any proper training, can't say I can play anything. Decent hearing but crap rhythm etc., also tourtette so "precise movements" are hard.
But I've been playing (with) a recorder since school times, even upgraded to a Yamaha alto at one point, and I do love this instrument. There's beauty in the simple construction and such a direct connection between breathing and sound. I can play all two songs and I'm happy xD
I had bought a recorder year ago, it’s my sign to start actually learning it
Was so confused because her voice sounded so familiar, but I had never seen her before… turns out she’s Dutch, so the familiar thing was her accent and word choice haha.
It suddenly hit me when she used some typically Dutch onomatopoeia lol.
what was the onomatopoeia she used? i'm curious now
@@zoemalone5769 Right around 02:30, she uses two different ones, and the second one I’ve heard a lot before in these parts lol. Maybe it’s not specifically Dutch, but it is common here (although more associated with like, driving on very uneven roads)
She's just demonstrating tongue techniques, not using it as an onomatopoeia. Every wind player around the world will make the same sounds to explain double tongue regardless of language.
The 'ja' is also a give away ;)
This is actually a good beginner’s lesson from Lucie (but what incredible patience she has with these 2 clowns - I’m happy to see her laugh though‼️)😵💫😱😁
YAY they brought their old series back :D
I played this Vivaldi concerto for a competition this year. One of my fav recorder concerti. Absolutely loved performing it and coming back to it every once in a while!
2:45 Guys fun fact. You can sing in the flute not just the recorder as she said.
It's been 3 years since the roasting incident. Time flies so quickly.
Me who already predicted that this episode was gonna come: That's right twoset is bringing back the old video formats
Lucy please start teaching on youtube please. You are perfect teacher.
now we know how hard recorder gang learned their instrument😂❤
The next episode they will learn the triangle lol
The elite instrument, very difficult to master
Lucie should do a sit in with a student recorder class as a pretend beginner the same way Eddie and Brett did.
FUN FACT: The Recorder is not the only wind instrument where you can sing and play at the same time. It is possible (in my experience) to play most brass instruments and to sing at the same time it is just much harder due to the effort needed to buzz and hum at the same time. I also believe that most woodwinds can to this to for example flute players can hum while still blowing enough air to play the instrument.
Ps: this is a great video and I love the professional Recorder sound!
You are on your path to redieme yourselves and bring honour to the recorder
*redeem but points for creativity!
They were so close to doing Darude - Sandstorm (the anime version) at 2:40
Is Lucie Dutch btw 😮 1:40
Yes.
Omg I love this
Lucie is so cool, I wish someone taught recorder for adults here, it is one of the few instruments my hands are big enough for and learning the breath support for recorder would be a huge help in singing!
Always happy to see a new video!
She went from roasting to hosting! hahaha Great idea :D
2:43 actually!! Flutes can do that as well with some level of effort. It's a pretty sick extended technique
good job tsv! this time it's the recorder! nice returning to the recorder after probably 3 years or something?
"Lets do a little bit of the last movement of the flautino concerto"
"I thought we're playing hot cross buns"
HAHAHA. But Lucie seems like a kind, patient and cool teacher!
Loving the Dutch accent!
Lucie is from The Netherlands: dit is een fantastisch filmpje!!!😊
I come to click on a new video and the first thing that I see is Lucie and a wild Brett and Eddy playing 'mary had a little lamb' with their nose
These brought back many painful memories of the music room being full of 5th graders who couldn’t even play ONE note in tune 😭 the shill screeching noises actually make my want to curl up in a ball and cry
She’s so sweet and cute how she gets so excited for them when they get it right!!! 🥰
The music school I went to offered recorder classes as a base instrument class, and after a year (or maybe 2) you had to make a choice: proceed with the recorder or choose a different wind instrument. In the end I chose the oboe, but watching this video a lot of techniques and characteristics that I thought were unique to the oboe and wouldn't apply to the recorder actually do. (though in hindsight it is pretty logical as a lot of the base recorder fingerings are interchangeable with oboe fingerings, and it is sort of the oboe's predecessor). It still makes me wonder how different my musical path and development actually would've been if I had kept on playing the recorder.
I do recommend anyone wanting to get into music (especially wind instruments) to start out with a low-threshold instrument such as the recorder! For oboe players there's a mininum age due to the more strenuous physical effort you have to perform. Also it is a quite expensive instruments (together with all the reed stuff and maintenance). Starting out on the recorder makes making music a lot less frustrating for a beginner and you can completely focus on basic technique, learning to read notes and sheet music signatures, without having to worry about all the extra keys, embouchure and the like.
Wtf you got to meet Lucie. She’s insanely talented. I adore her!!!
Her posture is so perfect 🥰🥰 and she’s just incredible on the recorder. Her albums are really worth it.
Love that she responded to the recorder beef and now she’s teaching you lol.
We Stan Lucie 🔥🔥🔥
Her voice is so nice
This made me want to practice the recorder
the intro sounded better than i could play anything on any instrument
RECORDER GANG ! ! !
Music to my ears ~
This is a video that is very likely to go non PG, all the "put it more into your mouth", "use your tongue" lol But I guess because of Lucie's professional aura, Brett and Eddy didn't mess around 😂 Lucie is really a professor of recorder, all the details she mentioned regarding recorder playing!! Respect to recorder players like Lucie!!!
I don't understand what you're talking about? 🤭😁
Well maybe they just cut those parts out 😅
If you can learn it slowly, you can learn it quickly
Recorders are great! A recorder or honey flute in school was the only instrument I really got to play during my childhood, and it was a lot of fun. A lot of children playing like they are trying to blow out your eardrums might seem like a nightmare, but I have to say I enjoyed it, and it was nice trying to learn how to play famous songs/pieces by myself.
@@Makenza_ Recorder is known as a 'sweet flute' in quite a few languages, e.g. Flauto dolce. I presume that's where this comes from.
The most INteresting rendition of the Jurassic Park theme I've ever heard!
I tried for a few years to actually properly learn recorder and I can still play it a little well today because I did spend years learning it alongside my band instrument
Lucie is entrancing!! And a great teacher. And this was hilarious to boot.
Lucie is absolutely freaking awesome, until I heard her playing "The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba" and then "Vivaldi - Flautino Concerto in C-Dur, RV 443, arr. in G-Dur - 3. Allegro molto" I had never thought the recorder was anything more but something to torture parents with, but she is now on my regular playlist.