I just love you to say "this is really difficult" and then doing it flawlessly. Somehow it doesn't feel like bragging, but it shows how much you've practiced.
I am on Tonic about 15 hours each day, either listening or practicing. It may be simple (XP and all that), but it does get me to practice more and I think has helped me to progress faster than I otherwise would have.
don't forget to sleep now and then. in deep sleep the braincells contract and the water in the brain pushes out the toxins in the brain. so sleep really helps your brain work well. be busy - that's good. but there is a healthy measure for everything. don't forget! now congrats to your workethics and keep up the good work!
3. the stacatto one string legato other string by far the hardest bowing technique imo (it's in the Beethoven 5th for solo violin) 4. the Kim harmonic runs
Hi Ray, I’m a huge fan from Korea, currently living in Japan. I just got my ticket for your concert in Japan next March, and even though I’m sitting on the second floor, I know I’ll be able to hear you perfectly! I’m beyond excited to see you perform live. Thank you for bringing your incredible music to Japan - I can’t wait for the concert!❤
"...And I thought it would be interesting to make my own ranking from the perspective of a professional concert violinist who HAS done these techniques, IN concert." Lowkey roasting TwoSet..
I learned the sautille was a very fast spiccato. But spiccato is actually off the string and the hand/arm makes it come off where as sautille sounds off but really isn't, just the bow naturally bouncing a little.
I learned that sautille is a very light almost flying fast detache on the upper part of the bow. It's very airy as opposed to a real bounce. Anyway that's how I learned it. Great video. Now we can all be violin teachers!
Wow, the professor who became the dean, seems to be teaching kindly!!! Tonic is also very good!!! I feel like a music family has been formed in Tonic, both professional and amateur! Thank you very much for the quality video and Tonic!👍🏻✨👑🎻💎🌞🏆🥇🎖️
Wow Ray!!! I learned only now that there are so many techniques in playing the violin. Thank you for doing this video. I am learning much from you. 👏🤗🎻
I learned vibrato in a week when i first started the violin because i wanted to become a professional😅 but now its been 10 months since i started, i learned alot about the violin. I learned some of techniques like, spiccato, staccato, shifting, and vibrato. 2nd year of middle school now.
I really enjoy these types of videos! ❤ Thanks for making this post, Ray!!!😉I recently learned Bazzini’s La ronde des lutins and it’s awesome, because it incorporates many of these more challenging techniques!!! ❤🎻🎶
Ray, some people make tier list that has differences between the same grade as well. I.e, detache and martele can both be in C tier, but martele is placed on left side of C (high C) and detache on right most of C tier (low C tier). I think there was another Ray's tier list video , that he cant decide to be in which grade when they hv just slight difference. P/S i know everything is subjective and its for fun and it doesnt matter as much at the end of the day. Just thought that it would help Ray make tier list video next time xD.
Excellent ! Excellent !!! Moi je ne suis pas violoniste, je suis danseuse , ( je joue un peu de piano classique ....juste un peu et je pense que c'est mieux ainsi 😬)mais je peux dire que vos qualités musicales ,et vos qualités d'interprétations sont absolument exceptionnelles ! C'est ce que l'on attend d'un authentique musicien !! Vous êtes un artiste complet .
Thanks Ray, great job, I am a budding conductor with a background in wind instruments, so I find these videos of yours very instructive…..I love your focus on musical/technical education, and your professional honesty …Bravo!
Ray I would love to see a reaction video (s), reacting to violins in other genres. I love bluegrass and old time fiddle , Michael Cleveland is the top fiddle player in the bluegrass world, does any of his techniques relate to classical style? is it hard to play other styles of violin, from a classical background? There are many great Jazz violinists out there too. Each country has there own style of violin music. I've always wondered how they relate to a classically trained musician. Would love to hear your insight. might be some content others would like to see?
Soloists can’t remember learning these things. He’s totally, completely off. You will have to take lessons for 3 years if you practice 3 hours a day minimum before you start any of these techniques
I enjoy A LOT more this Ray Chen videos than 2 set videos, because i really learn A LOT, and is a lot more positive the vibes, always in two set violin videos or content i have to say is a lot of toxic vibes in many of their videos, and how i come from a very toxic music environment, honestly 2 set videos brings me kind of anxiety. Also the Ray Chen videos has an amazing edition, beautiful spots he made his videos.
Great rankings! What would you rank sextuple/more than four-stringed chords? When you play like a chord and then immediately shift up to play another chord to give the illusion of a many-stringed chord such as in ysaye sonata 1 fugato. Thanks so much for making these videos- they're all a great help (or source of entertainment) for us!
Now I have an idea of how this violin instrument is played. I'm excited-afraid to begin learning. I think that what could be missing on this GREAT VIOLIN LESSON is a walkthrough on all techniques from D to S tier like a conclusion. Thank you for the time and effort. Parents out there, please put your children on violin lessons before guitar ones. You're welcome 😂
would like to see a ranking of techniques used in a certain concerto - like sibelius - to break down all the techniques and rank them the same way as here; then try the same for beethoven tchaikovski, brahms etc
A bit out of your context here but would you ever consider doing a close up video of your left hand while playing? The option of slow playback might help us deconstruct your technique and shed some light on how to improve.
G-sul really depends because for me, the technique was rlly easy to learn, probably because I had long arms. I had lots of trouble learning many other techniques though, like spicatto and upbow staccato too.
in my opinion i think wrist vibrato is easier because you can conserve left arm energy. i only started using wrist because i couldnt vibrato first finger and then i let it take over because my arm kept tensing up. i can still do arm but my habit is wrist. plus you can do it faster
Hi Ray (if you even see this) I am a 15 old from the Philippines, I just started learning the violin about 2 months ago with a beginner violin. Should I get some lessons or just continue with youtube lessons? I really want to play vivaldi's works some day and was wondering if I even could knowing how much time it will take. also one of my favorite youtubers, you're the reasong why I wanted to play the violin
You´ve been such as a teacher for me with these videos, but I noticed you never play any Pablo Sarasate, I am trying to learn Carmen´s Fantasy and its been a total learning journey....
Isn't sautillé a kind of "inverted" spiccato into the bow hair without really leaving the string? The translation of french sautiller is "doing little jumps".
Yeah, this looks about right... though I haven't thought of most of those as techniques till now. Like while playing I think 3rd runs are really just 3rds, which are really just double stops, which also include octaves, tenths, fingered octaves, double stop glissandos and even double harmonics... and when I think about it I realize just how different using them is. Also, I despise the downbow staccato, can't stand that one. I just can't get it to sound nice.
I like playing double-stopped natural harmonic fifths (no idea if that's a correct name for that 😅). Not that I've managed to use them in any pieces yet, but I enjoy playing them just to hear them - they sound so niiiiice! 😁 Most of these techniques are still too hard for me, but considering how floppy my wrists are, you'd expect that I should have less problems with learning vibrato... 🤔 🤣
The one technique not discussed here that I'd like to learn more about is the double trills used in pieces like Paganini Caprice No. 6 or the Devil's Trill sonata.
Although this isn't about the string techniques, I liked your explanation of a wolf tone (especially the fighting cats graphic!) I always thought it to be most apparent for some on cello & violas F# note in third position on the G string, and hence some cellists/violists have a metal wolf-tone eliminator attached behind their bridge. I never heard a wolf tone that high on a violin...so do I assume that wolf tones can be anywhere depending on the particular instrument? I really like your videos.
Isn't Sautille when you let the bow bounce creating a staccato sound on alternating bowstrokes? Essentially a repeated up down single note ricochet. Edit: What you called Spiccato I learned as Sautille.
I will just mention differences in big/small hands and long short arms and finger size. That is a big thing. Playing tenths with a very small hand might not be possible at all. I have met people who could not use the whole bow straight but had to curve it. It is all about the laws of movement in physics. So we all have different challenges.
Do you have tips for people with a learning disability? I been consistent playing since march. But I'm teaching myself. I have a intellectual disability and learning disability, autism and adhd. It's hard for me to focus and I'm naturally a slow learner. Any suggestions or tips or sites that can help someone with a learning disability? Thanks.
If someone wants to check out playful right hand pizzicato, check out Itzhak Perlman's Tchaikovsky concerto, start of the 3rd movement. He's so playful and charming with it :)
I'm a beginner and my brain is so confused if this video should encourage or discourage me from continuing to learn. I'm in my 40's and the timeline for learning the techniques looks brutal. On the flip side, they all sound amazing.
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I just love you to say "this is really difficult" and then doing it flawlessly. Somehow it doesn't feel like bragging, but it shows how much you've practiced.
I am on Tonic about 15 hours each day, either listening or practicing. It may be simple (XP and all that), but it does get me to practice more and I think has helped me to progress faster than I otherwise would have.
Ling Ling would be proud
Wish I had that much time lol
don't forget to sleep now and then. in deep sleep the braincells contract and the water in the brain pushes out the toxins in the brain. so sleep really helps your brain work well. be busy - that's good. but there is a healthy measure for everything. don't forget! now congrats to your workethics and keep up the good work!
@@misscatbirdreal just a question of priorities and dedication ;)
15h? Do you sleep or work?
Honestly, listening to how others practice is really illuminating
Ok ray, now a we need a video of you teaching every one of these 😂🥲
Above S there is R rank for Roman Kim:
1. Playing double harmonics with LH pizz
2. Teeth pizzicato
Roman kim the kinda guy to say 'I have 4 strings, thus, I can play 4 parts'
Not to forget using the thumb as an extra finger, and continuous left hand pizz for 20+ bars
3.
the stacatto one string legato other string
by far the hardest bowing technique imo
(it's in the Beethoven 5th for solo violin)
4. the Kim harmonic runs
@@matthewyeager9382 Don't forget LH pizz with the sound of a grenade.
Hi Ray, I’m a huge fan from Korea, currently living in Japan. I just got my ticket for your concert in Japan next March, and even though I’m sitting on the second floor, I know I’ll be able to hear you perfectly! I’m beyond excited to see you perform live. Thank you for bringing your incredible music to Japan - I can’t wait for the concert!❤
"...And I thought it would be interesting to make my own ranking from the perspective of a professional concert violinist who HAS done these techniques, IN concert." Lowkey roasting TwoSet..
Damm
Ray Chen: makes a video about violin tequnique
Proceeds to emediatly roast Twoset on tequnique.
I always learn so much from this kind of content, thanks Ray!
I love this video Ray. It really gives you an greater depth of what is required to play the violin. Also, I love your examples.
Ray is such a joy to watch.
BRO YOUR EDITOR IS GOD, and if it's you is even more impressive
I learned the sautille was a very fast spiccato. But spiccato is actually off the string and the hand/arm makes it come off where as sautille sounds off but really isn't, just the bow naturally bouncing a little.
I learned that sautille is a very light almost flying fast detache on the upper part of the bow. It's very airy as opposed to a real bounce. Anyway that's how I learned it. Great video. Now we can all be violin teachers!
My teacher said the exact same thing.
Wow, the professor who became the dean, seems to be teaching kindly!!! Tonic is also very good!!! I feel like a music family has been formed in Tonic, both professional and amateur! Thank you very much for the quality video and Tonic!👍🏻✨👑🎻💎🌞🏆🥇🎖️
your video editor is amazing. why is no one talking about this?
Maybe he stole Editor San
@@HoneyMillie What is editor San has a a secret twin, or maybe this is editor ling ling 🤣
@@ClassicalClown1756 Editor Ling Ling I can't!😂😂
Wow Ray!!! I learned only now that there are so many techniques in playing the violin. Thank you for doing this video. I am learning much from you. 👏🤗🎻
Love your video’s, they’re always so much fun to watch 🫶🏼 the editing 🤌🏼♥️ and the music 😭 such a talent 🙌🏼
I learned vibrato in a week when i first started the violin because i wanted to become a professional😅 but now its been 10 months since i started, i learned alot about the violin. I learned some of techniques like, spiccato, staccato, shifting, and vibrato. 2nd year of middle school now.
As soon as I saw the story, I come over and set up a notification!✨👑🎻💎🌞
Ricochet and sautillé are both French words. Sautillé literally mean small jumps and ricochet bouncing on a surface :)
Martelé and Détaché are also French. One means hammered and the latter detached.
So ?
@@kai-dp6wy Yeah, why would you want to learn something interesting.
@@buffywasright no one gives a f about ur language
Sautillé goes back and forth;ricochet continues in the same direction.
I really enjoy these types of videos! ❤ Thanks for making this post, Ray!!!😉I recently learned Bazzini’s La ronde des lutins and it’s awesome, because it incorporates many of these more challenging techniques!!! ❤🎻🎶
I didnt know you had a UA-cam channel mate! Its a honour to find it!
Ray, some people make tier list that has differences between the same grade as well. I.e, detache and martele can both be in C tier, but martele is placed on left side of C (high C) and detache on right most of C tier (low C tier). I think there was another Ray's tier list video , that he cant decide to be in which grade when they hv just slight difference.
P/S i know everything is subjective and its for fun and it doesnt matter as much at the end of the day. Just thought that it would help Ray make tier list video next time xD.
Wow I still have so many to learn 😮! Thanks for the video ❤.
Ray, can you do one on etudes? Different levels of difficulty of different etudes🍀
Love the Ray portraits in the improvement scale.
Excellent ! Excellent !!! Moi je ne suis pas violoniste, je suis danseuse , ( je joue un peu de piano classique ....juste un peu et je pense que c'est mieux ainsi 😬)mais je peux dire que vos qualités musicales ,et vos qualités d'interprétations sont absolument exceptionnelles ! C'est ce que l'on attend d'un authentique musicien !! Vous êtes un artiste complet .
Thank you Ray Chen to creater this space for practice music ✨❤✨
Thanks Ray, great job, I am a budding conductor with a background in wind instruments, so I find these videos of yours very instructive…..I love your focus on musical/technical education, and your professional honesty …Bravo!
💪🎻 Me gustó esta lista, tendré que vover a verlo. Siempre se aprenden cosas nuevas.
So good to see this video! Love you Ray!
Ray I would love to see a reaction video (s), reacting to violins in other genres. I love bluegrass and old time fiddle , Michael Cleveland is the top fiddle player in the bluegrass world, does any of his techniques relate to classical style? is it hard to play other styles of violin, from a classical background? There are many great Jazz violinists out there too. Each country has there own style of violin music. I've always wondered how they relate to a classically trained musician. Would love to hear your insight. might be some content others would like to see?
Hea Mr.Chen. At same category if one is a bit heather than another, I recommend you can put it before the other one.
Good day hehe, It’s 3 September in Thailand now, I opened UA-cam and click on this vid, first UA-cam video on my birthday let’s gooo
Very good violin techniques, rating in accordance with the Times.
This tierlist just simply scares me bigtime… i’m starting my first violin lesson end of this month 😂
Soloists can’t remember learning these things. He’s totally, completely off. You will have to take lessons for 3 years if you practice 3 hours a day minimum before you start any of these techniques
you got a LONG journey ahead of you, but please don’t give up when learning these!
@@M_SC He states, at the beginning of the video, that he's assuming an intermediate level of violin
Welcome to the club pal. Been playing for 18 months starting in my 31s.
Still going strong (but ugly 😅)
About to download tonic guys, everyone else should do it too :)
I enjoy A LOT more this Ray Chen videos than 2 set videos, because i really learn A LOT, and is a lot more positive the vibes, always in two set violin videos or content i have to say is a lot of toxic vibes in many of their videos, and how i come from a very toxic music environment, honestly 2 set videos brings me kind of anxiety. Also the Ray Chen videos has an amazing edition, beautiful spots he made his videos.
Eres un gran virtuoso, muchas gracias por tu música ❤❤❤
Prefect timing!❤
Great rankings! What would you rank sextuple/more than four-stringed chords? When you play like a chord and then immediately shift up to play another chord to give the illusion of a many-stringed chord such as in ysaye sonata 1 fugato. Thanks so much for making these videos- they're all a great help (or source of entertainment) for us!
I love how much education I'm getting. 😊 And I don't even play an instrument! Makes me appreciate violin more though.
Now I have an idea of how this violin instrument is played. I'm excited-afraid to begin learning. I think that what could be missing on this GREAT VIOLIN LESSON is a walkthrough on all techniques from D to S tier like a conclusion. Thank you for the time and effort.
Parents out there, please put your children on violin lessons before guitar ones. You're welcome 😂
Try your most complex complex 3 note orquestration using 2 octaves and 3 tempos
thank you for a very good video! I've learned a lot
would like to see a ranking of techniques used in a certain concerto - like sibelius - to break down all the techniques and rank them the same way as here; then try the same for beethoven tchaikovski, brahms etc
Super interesting! Thank you 🎶
Always happy to see a new Ray Chen upload.
A bit out of your context here but would you ever consider doing a close up video of your left hand while playing? The option of slow playback might help us deconstruct your technique and shed some light on how to improve.
ooo perfect timing!
G-sul really depends because for me, the technique was rlly easy to learn, probably because I had long arms. I had lots of trouble learning many other techniques though, like spicatto and upbow staccato too.
in my opinion i think wrist vibrato is easier because you can conserve left arm energy. i only started using wrist because i couldnt vibrato first finger and then i let it take over because my arm kept tensing up. i can still do arm but my habit is wrist. plus you can do it faster
I feel personally attacked on Brett's behalf that he wasn't the left hand pizz. This is blasphemy against the Perfect Pizz Boy
You are very interesting and talented. Thanks.
I agree 100%, with my zero years of violin experience to back that up!!
Thank You!!!
This is super useful, especially re harmonics 😜
Been learning Paganini 5th 😂which I know is out of my league it's just for Fun though😂but been doing the runs and appegios for like a Year now😂 3:35
11:11 that sorry was so cute😂❤
Oh so Ray Chen uses the tremilo method for stacatto like Chloe Chua mentioned in TwoSet's video.
Hi Ray (if you even see this) I am a 15 old from the Philippines, I just started learning the violin about 2 months ago with a beginner violin. Should I get some lessons or just continue with youtube lessons? I really want to play vivaldi's works some day and was wondering if I even could knowing how much time it will take. also one of my favorite youtubers, you're the reasong why I wanted to play the violin
If you want to play classical pieces, lessons with a qualified teacher will be a tremendous help.
I have made some music friends by Tonic really like this app❤🎉 We encourage each other and practiced more than I thought I could do❤ thank you Ray!
In France sautillé IS played like your quick spiccato AT the middle of the bow.
My 10yr old daughter (who has just finished Suzuki book 1) is doing double stops in Amazing Grace. When u close your eyes it sounds like bag pipes.
As a viola learner I think every skill is very difficult
You´ve been such as a teacher for me with these videos, but I noticed you never play any Pablo Sarasate, I am trying to learn Carmen´s Fantasy and its been a total learning journey....
Sautille is a faster Spiccato that uses the natural bouncing of the bow.
Exactly
Isn't sautillé a kind of "inverted" spiccato into the bow hair without really leaving the string? The translation of french sautiller is "doing little jumps".
Yes what Ray demonstrated as spiccato is actually sautille
I would love to see Ray Chen and Yuja Wang play together. That would be heaven on Earth
its helpful to put your thumb on the corner of the fingerboard for pizz
Yeah, this looks about right... though I haven't thought of most of those as techniques till now. Like while playing I think 3rd runs are really just 3rds, which are really just double stops, which also include octaves, tenths, fingered octaves, double stop glissandos and even double harmonics... and when I think about it I realize just how different using them is.
Also, I despise the downbow staccato, can't stand that one. I just can't get it to sound nice.
I like playing double-stopped natural harmonic fifths (no idea if that's a correct name for that 😅). Not that I've managed to use them in any pieces yet, but I enjoy playing them just to hear them - they sound so niiiiice! 😁
Most of these techniques are still too hard for me, but considering how floppy my wrists are, you'd expect that I should have less problems with learning vibrato... 🤔 🤣
9/1の大阪のコンサート、台風で中止になり残念でした。
楽しみにしていました。
またの機会をお待ちしています。
是非大阪でビバルディを演奏してください。
The one technique not discussed here that I'd like to learn more about is the double trills used in pieces like Paganini Caprice No. 6 or the Devil's Trill sonata.
Although this isn't about the string techniques, I liked your explanation of a wolf tone (especially the fighting cats graphic!) I always thought it to be most apparent for some on cello & violas F# note in third position on the G string, and hence some cellists/violists have a metal wolf-tone eliminator attached behind their bridge. I never heard a wolf tone that high on a violin...so do I assume that wolf tones can be anywhere depending on the particular instrument? I really like your videos.
What about intonation, good posture or string crossings? I've been struggling with those techniques for the past 7 years. Yipes!
He’s talking about advanced techniques. You’re exactly normal. You have to do years of the basics first
@@M_SC Well actually it's not normal for someone who cant get past playing twinkle twinkle little star properly. Double yipes! 😂
Isn't Sautille when you let the bow bounce creating a staccato sound on alternating bowstrokes? Essentially a repeated up down single note ricochet.
Edit: What you called Spiccato I learned as Sautille.
That's what I was taught as well
Hi Ray
I’d like to know, how long can it take you to learn a hard piece ?
I will just mention differences in big/small hands and long short arms and finger size. That is a big thing. Playing tenths with a very small hand might not be possible at all. I have met people who could not use the whole bow straight but had to curve it. It is all about the laws of movement in physics. So we all have different challenges.
The Silvia in the background 👍
The next time I hear Andrei Rieu play double stopped harmonics would be the first.
Lol greetings from France ricochet and sautiller are both French words😂 thanks great video
Do you have tips for people with a learning disability? I been consistent playing since march. But I'm teaching myself. I have a intellectual disability and learning disability, autism and adhd. It's hard for me to focus and I'm naturally a slow learner. Any suggestions or tips or sites that can help someone with a learning disability? Thanks.
Try the world's hardest sheet of humanly playable music the cro magnon skinning chant part 7 of the entire orchestral piece half tempo
0:53 Editor proceeds to add Bach's fugue in sonota for violing in G minor, BWV 1001. Edit: Then Ray played it for a little bit too :D
Personally, ricochet is pretty natural! It's so natural for me, I tend to do it when I don't need to!
Do a intepret of ravel's romantic dedication of his one handed symphony
The ending time is 20:24 😮
If someone wants to check out playful right hand pizzicato, check out Itzhak Perlman's Tchaikovsky concerto, start of the 3rd movement. He's so playful and charming with it :)
I'm a beginner and my brain is so confused if this video should encourage or discourage me from continuing to learn. I'm in my 40's and the timeline for learning the techniques looks brutal. On the flip side, they all sound amazing.
This should be fun😊
Lmfao wholesome Ray flipping his viewers off…
Oh wow, I think I just realized that there's ponti cello in The Rebel Path (Cello Version) from the Cyberpunk 2077 soundtrack!
What is the bach piece he plays in the "detache" section, it's the second thing he plays after those chord ones!?
Bach - Violin Partita No. 3 in E major, BWV 1006
@@alexandrodiova8386 TYYY
Can u make a video that explains the concept of every grade
That would be a cool video
Remix a dual between two styles by your own one baroqe the other latin Renaissance movements
What does tembolo sound like on violin? what does recuerdos de la alhambra sound like on violin?
Hi Ray Chen..😊❤
I LOVE YOU RAYYYYYY❤❤❤❤