It’s Not AGING making AXL ROSE sing worse… it's THIS.
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If you sing with poor technique, age will worsen your vocal range since there is only so much beating your vocal cords can take before you cannot do it anymore.
If you sing with healthy technique, however, your range will be preserved and at times even increased. If anything, your vocal maturity comes with age, and by the time you hit your 40s to early 50s you should be at your vocal peak (unless you are extremely old in your 70s or 80s, for example, and even then the decline is not too much if your technique is fine). This is why it is important to learn proper technique for me.
Totally agreed! And with a foundation of classical technique and learning proper breath support, appoggio and how to be completely free of tension - especially when going higher. It’s why I obsessed over this topic until I found a technique I knew was totally consistent and healthy and could never damage me. I made a ton of research until I found something that really made me sure I’d never hurt myself because it’d just be too frustrating for me to handle.
I think the best or healthiest technique I could find is just M2 based mixed voice mixed with a classical technique foundation for appoggio and even some Taoism methods and postures to increase breath support to be the best in every single way. I explain the mechanics of all this at www.crazysinging.com if anyone is interested
The youthful part of society would still reject you because it is ingrained into the system.
Roger Daltrey of The Who sounds surprisingly well for his age
But axl sang in church don’t they gotta have good technique to sing there
Not necessarily ONLY poor technique! Diet , recreational substances and lifestyle habits also compound aging. DIMASH at 29 after 24 years of training still trains 3 hours a day. Along w fitness training & NO caffeine, alcohol, smoking or recreational drugs. Maybe this is why he is getting better & better.👽
Axl Rose voice in 2006 was still phenomenal
OMG you're right. Literally, the videos of 2007 and after, he started sounding bad, worse and worse.
If singers take care of their general health and don't abuse their voices with excess alcohol, smoking, drugs, certain foods and the sheer exhaustion of endless parting, travel and she absolute havoc such a lifestyle causes, they can keep singing well, even in their 90's, though perhaps not as often or as loudly as in youth, but that's why there's sound amplification equipment. However the sort of lifestyle that hoes with the hard rock/metal scene such music happens in will make it impossible for such singers to live the sort of healthy lifestyle needed to preserve voice. Their fans expect them to party hard, engage in all sorts of unhealthy, self destructive behaviours. If you want to live a long, clean healthy, safer lifestyle and also keep your fine voice, just don't do this style of music. Once you're old, all washed up, good voice gone, no longer young and cute longer, fans can be so cruel. Just dump you. Is it worth it all? Maybe if you had no other career choices or you mad3 a gortune and so m rhow managed to avoid early self destruction and know when yo get out, whilst still ahead. Stay silent a while to give your voice Time to self repair, th we n switch to a less damaging style or simply play an instrument,instead, or choose a melody one that resembles human voice.
@@JoshCartman 2010 was also a good year. 2016 was decent. The rest of the time he's not good.
Not all tho, the tour in 2016 was pretty amazing and i remember in a concert in 2016 he was able to hold his highest note from chinese democracy.. yes he doesnt sound amazing and doesnt have the same high vocals but he still has his lower end plus when he does the high notes he can hit them but it just sounds bad@@JoshCartman
@orianavisozky2195 Yeah, he still has the range but isn't able to use the rasp, so it sounds like Mickey Mouse and Herbert from Family Guy.
Axl didn’t have any vocal training until 2016 when he toured with AC/DC, he put everything into those shows
The age claim is disproven with 2 words. Steven Tyler.
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Yes because everyone ages identically.
@@pope03 wah wah wah
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Steven tyler sing with his natural voice texture.. axl rose always sang with rasp, mask, head voice… It’s very, you can’t even compare. Plus steven tyler had multiple vocal cords surgery so I won’t say age doesn’t matter…he needed help too
Amy Lees voice is hauntingly beautiful!!
But dreadful now.
Axl still has a good voice, he chooses to sing like that so he can play a 3 hour show every 3 days with an age of 60. everyone ages different. The Axl of the 90s it’s something that we will never see again, at least not in this lifetime because that was something unreal. You can’t compare that to another singer.
that and the axl dc shows didnt help him at all, axl can still do his screams, just saves them for when its necessary and opts to sing in lower registers now until he needs to punch it or falsettos (kind of like joe elliot from def leppard)
But, even at 60 Axl can still sound good if he adjusts his vocal style yo accommodate vocal maturity. With age, most voices seem to get lower. Therefore, choose lower pitched songs ie their 'tessitura' or drop the vocals to a lower key. Guitar players doing the accompaniment may grumble about having to play in some key they hate, just t o accommodate the singer,but it's how to sound good. It's easier for some voice types than others. For my voice, just play everything in the easy C key and it will be OK, but not g or other voice types, some of which may require very complex keys yo play in, so the singer sounds good. Singing a song that best suits the best part of their vocal range. Once you figure this out, musically, it all falls I to place easily and knowing which songcwill or won't work for a certain voice type becomes second nature. You csn sound crap singing a song in one key. Change the key do it better suits your voice type and you suddenly sound fantastic. Like artistic magic.
Axl still being able to do what he does at 60+ and
still looking good is phenomenal, though Duff, Slash and the rest of the band also look and sound good. So what if they modify the songs a little so they can keep performing at that age, night after night. How many 50 and 60 year olds can still d o what they do, look as as they do?
I seen GnR in the 90s and about 3 songs in his voice would go away, so he has always been that way. And Amy is A trained classical singer.
Also smoking will hurt a person's voice n both those guys smoked heavily back in the day.
If you smoke 1 cigarette to every 1 joint then it's redundant. The damage done with the cigarette gets repaired by the THC. LoL.
@@Maureen.EccentricEclectic i love cannabis as much as the next unemployed bonobo but smoking a joint (or smoking anything for that matter) is not gonna cancel out the cigarets, that’s not how carcinogens work. i’m tryna be respectful here but that is definitely the stupidest shit i heard today.
@@tommywright2487 I'm not trying to be respectful because you're a condescending fool who thinks he is some know it all and can't handle sarcasm. You're DUMB!!!
@@tommywright2487 when a woman writes LoL.. what does that mean big boy... 🤔 it means women hate YOU . For Your future reference.
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Robert Plant never warmed up and smoked and did drugs. Add that to constant touring and pushing his voice when sick and you get his loss of range and broken sound in the mid 70s. By the 80s he learned how to sing well with his new voice. He’s now in his 70s and still sings better than Axl or Bon Jovi.
His voice went downhill big time after 1972.
@@ronniep9272 it did, but I’ve never heard it as bad as Axl or Vince Neil
@@officialanthonytesieromusi4250Robert sounded like shit in most of 1973 concerts. 1975 too. However he sounded great in 1977. Of course it wasnt near to his prime voice. Its so sad. He had an incredible voice.
@@Nichwar19 I’ve heard a few bad performances in 73, but 75 was not that bad. Physical Graffiti had just come out and while I will say when he sang the earlier stuff he sounded rough, when he sang the songs that were written to his changed voice it wasn’t that bad. Absolutely not Vince Neil or Axl bad. His voice was getting better in 77, but he changed a lot of how he sang shortly after. In his 70s he still sounds great despite the damage he did in the 70s and the surgery that was done to his vocal cords.
I saw Robert plant do a show at 60 and his voice sounded better than in the zeppelin days. Didn’t sound as young, but much more power and fullness. I think he became a batter singer as he got older due to experience and probably vocal coaching.
I've often thought the same about Amy Lee and Chris Corner (if you compare old vs. new live videos); seems like Amy's been exercising her chords nicely, love her, grateful she has been. Their gracefulness is peaking.
Because Axl was belting his heart out on every song, which after a while will do damage. I mean Steven Tyler, Rob Halford, and even kinda Ozzy still sound good for their age because they aren't screeching at the level Axl does all the time, if you watch him perform in the 80s, and 90s, you'll see what I mean.
Listen to axl sing with ac dc...he sounded like in the 90s...he never lost it,he just saves it for studio recordings maybe
Axl hasn't sounded like that since ACDC
He was young and wilder than a buck deer. And that being said he gave us 4 great albums of top notch vocals. And still sounds pretty good for almost sixty
Paul Rodgers of Bad Co. still sounds as good as he did in the 70s and he's 73 and had 16 strokes!! Love you Axl
It doesn’t help that on Instagram that Jon Bon Jovi is drinking a lot of alcohol still to this day and tbh it’s his life not anyone else’s but he’s lost it properly I would say because of alcohol as every singer saids drink water as it will help the dryness of the thought
Yeah, but he looks very good for his age, despite the wear and tear of the rock'n'roll band lifes6yle and also trying to be a good husband and daily man he is and do community charity, too. He is rich enough now yo not have to give a damn what prople think of his voice or enjoying a drink or two. There comes a time in mature age life when someone who has always tried to live a good life, is entitled to relax and have a bit of gun themselves, too. Especially entertainers like him, Axl and others. These guys a pend their entire lives creating entertainment fun gor others, but, to them, it is just more work. They rar3ly get t o have much fun themselves or be eith their loved ones, as they watch everybody else in the audience Roman c I g their loved ones to their music etc. If these musicians even have time for some loved one willing to put up with havi g such a partner who is accessible to everybody else, except them, due to performance demands etc, they will probably be home alone, lonely. Or, if it gets too unbearably lonely, they'll go seek out others they don' t love, just for some human connection, to ease their loneliness.Which typically results in the real love r3lationship with an artist ending, due to infidelity. There is temptation to infidelity everywhere, for both the musicians as well as their partners left back home alone. Hence all the massive number of lovers these types typically burn their way through, often ending up alone, old, addicted to substances etc, all washed up, no longer worshipped ny anybody in old age. Many don't even make it to old age, due to demands of such artistic careers that take their toll on their personal lives.
Axl sound amazing in the 2000 's and 2010's, axls voice in Chinese Democracy was incredible, the new song Perhaps was recorded in 1999 hear how good his voice was, guns n roses was a huge success in the 90's it's not 10 years ago but 30
I prefer Axl's mid and lower notes. They are closer to his natural speaking range.
I've seen lots of performances from him in 2012 and he didn't sound good
It's different type of singing between Amy Lee and Axl! Can't compare the two! Amy was way more melodic when Axl was strain after strain! Duuuhhhh!!!
Axl rose sounded amazing in the 2000s even in the early 2010s he sounded great.
They’re all different people - age affects them differently - I got to see Stevie Rachelle, Steve Summers and Taime Downe pretty recently and they still killed it live🎙️🎙️🎙️🎙️🤘🤘🤘
Over time your body, which includes your voice & vocal chords, will crap out if you took your body for granted as a younger person, it'll show up more as ya age!
Do Hansi Kusch, pls
His voice vas excellent in 2000s
Dude! Listen to Franki Valli these days. Dude is at the better-half of 90-years-old and that crusty s.o.b can still sing; even the falsettos.
He literally lip syncs these days
Yes, those high male vocals he did so well... I tried singing them and, even with my higher female voice it was challenging to sing along with him and I wondered how a male could possibly sing like that when even women find it hard to do. Songs like Sad Rag Doll, Silence Is Golden etc. They sound so unique, due to his unusually high male voice
He had an amazing voice.
This is why it’s so important to get a vocal teacher
What is this guy talking about, AXL 2000-2006ish was the best version of himself. Powerful voice with some real mature control. I hate when 18 year olds try to make content about something they have zero clue about.
I thought Amy Lee stopped singing way back a few years ago
Check all her 2020-2022 performances are incredible
I just saw her live at aftershock 3 days ago. She's still killing it.
@@CrazySinging Love any lee, I wish she sang heavier songs. Isn’t that auto tune tho?
It's because they have put their vocal cords thru so much over the years
You don't even show a video of Axl to prove your point.
Billy Cortana voice is like unrecognizable from how it used to sound
Because with axl's strain and vocals, his vocal chords could not handle it, eventually destroying his voice. It's just because he screamed and shouted in a high pitch while singing, he strained his vocal chords.
Except when he got back into shape from 2006-2012 he sounded better than he did in the 90s with less strained technique and great highs. Post 2012 it's been hit or miss though his stint with ACDC was great and he had a vocal coach again.
In terms of his voice, the whole of the 2023 tour is being sung in a limited range of registers to enable the full range to be used in the studio throughout the year….it’s an exciting sign for anyone wanting to hear new music from this line-up.
Story: one day on a tour bus axle did not feel well and was very nauseous and when he got to the concert and when he was back stage he started coughing a lot and coughing up blood and basically just ripping his throat out
lucifer took back his gift lol
💀😂🤣
Eric Adams from Manowar is A perfect example of a perfectly aged singer
Tony Bennett is 96 and sings like a boss
did he sing like prime axl rose?
Hope you can listen to Awie from Wings now vs then.
Cuz he screams same thing happened to Chester Bennington. Or was happening. Sounds awesome but very hard on vocal cords
Amy didn't do as much extra curricular activities as axel 😂
Love the Amy Lee comparison!! Her voice has actually gotten better with age, imo.
Check out Michael Bolton’s recent tour vocals. Still sounds good but doesn’t push it as much as he used to.
The answer is "practice"
my axle rose impression is better than the actual axle rose.
I believe you since I have no idea who "axle rose" is. If you mean the singer of GnR his name is Axl, not axle.
Also I would be happy to see your video singing like that, and especially how you would sound at 62 after over 30 years of straining your vocal chords ;)
@@VickyDreamz no not axl rose. Axle rose. It is what happened when I ran over the rose bush in my yard.
Totally different vocal style. Axl rose sang as intensely as he possibly could and was on the edge of his register in many songs. The vocal line from the second clip is alot more relaxed. Your voice shrinks over time. And yea sure axl probably did some damage from screaming but that happens to anyone who goes on tour
Just ask Ozzy for the secret. He sounds great throughout DECADES.
If you blow your chords or aren't in the same shape....
Of course age affects your range. Over time, poor maintenance will cause the folds to atrophy. This is especially true if you sing with the intense style that Axl did when he was younger
The best example is people like Dio and Bruce Dickinson.
W.Axl Rose....🎩🌹.🎉❤.
Or overuse of voice can also cause this.
He blew his upper register.
The number 1 reason was 100% all the touring
Cause she hasn't screamed songs for almost 40 odd years and with drugs and alcohol over time has took its toll
It's vocal cord destruction
Completely different singing style/technique
Badass Bill Bailey.
A deeper and slower tone would be a better option now since the rasp doesnt sound as natural
Axl Rose was born with big vocal cords. His vocal style was copied from Dan McCafferty Cafferty from the band Nazareth
Bryan Adams still sounds exactly the same as before at age 63!
100% correct. He never exercised those crazy vocal chords of his.. in doing so they weaken. Btw they can never getback to full once lost..
Some can recover from the damage but they need a period of silence, living a healthier lifestyle and so m e special vocal exercises that can teach the voice to sing different ly, less strain. And then switch to a less damaging genre than hard rock/metal. It takes time to repair the damage. I li k e such music, but, even if I could sing it, I'd sooner play an inst5ument lije base or guitar or woodwind, keyboards, percussion, any thing but sing. Such musicians can last longer than singers, even if guitar gingers get shredded or they develop repetitive strain injury.
Why I like PJ Harvey, she still is amazing and writes & sings music aligned with where's she's at in her life
He has traveled the world and made a fortune with improper technique.
yall can't accept they smoked back then that is one part second you can't expect expect to sound perfect forever
She didn't drink and smoke!
mick jagger never aging
Perfect summarize.
U dont need trianed hear to hear how tight and pushy he was. Not to mentioned his singing is full of constriction
papa roach has some great songs and vocal lines
Amy Lee is much younger than Axle Rose! He also attempts to sing much higher than his normal register with Guns N’ Roses.
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Or from substance abuse
Damn Amy Lee in 2022 just gave me goosebumps!!!
It's easy to call "improper technique". But can anyone really do that type of distortion , with that timber, without losing the voice ? I don't think so.
Axl started getting this weird sound to his voice in the 90s, and like Motley Crues front man I think its because of the booze and drugs. Alice Cooper and Mick Jagger are prime examples of what taking care of your voice sounds like at an older age.
Mick Jagger certainly d I'd do drugs and wild living but, as he matured, he became very health and fitness conscious. Which is why h e can still do it at 80.
This happens when you don’t take care of your self, let’s take Bruce Dickinson as a prime example, his voice is still magical as it was back in the 80’s. Maybe not the same pitch but def same energy. And undeniable you can recognize his voice the moment you hear it.
Ok what about comparing ACDC then and now? The voices dont change. Just the external. Who can rock better than Angus?
It’s not with age it’s because of those vocal chord destroying notes they’ve hit
Ageing. As in aged single malt.
Pro tools brother, pro tools 😂
She was using auto tune in 2022
Love Amy Lee❤
He went to choir when young.
I think that's it.
at least he sounds better than vince neil and actually remembers the lyrics, right?
NO..
Plant, perry, rose
....are pretty much 3 most gifted male rock voices of all time.
ALL had this happen...[the guys who can project, crack those deep falsettos]
We change as we age....our vocal cords change
Thanks for mentioning bon Jovi he's my favorite singer 😂
Due to the lack of H
Practice
Axl Rose sounds bad in 2000? I didn't know that.
Reported for mal-intent
Thing is. Axl still can sing with rasp- and sound like he did in the 80's / 90's however he wisely chooses not to- because he cannot keep it up for a full concert and will probably permanently cause irreversible damage to what is left of his voice.
You know this how?
@@talknewz7617Sweet Child O Mine with Carrie Underwood 2022 towards the end of the song, sounded like the 90's. Same show, Paradise City towards the end hits a huge high note.
Every Welcome to the Jungle intro has the rasp.
Patience needs a lower register but the end of the song he sings the first half at a low rasp.
Its not serious ,comparing Axl with Amy Lee
Axl had 5 Octave
Amy only 3 Octave
Show ACDC back then and today
So George Jones decline was poor technique? Not age?
axl ever
Just compare Axl to Bruce Dickinson
Where is my TikTok ‘you’re telling me’ guy
So you’re telling me performing the scream in the intro of welcome to the jungle for years and years might obliterate your vocal chords?
Axl’s voice has held up far better than Bon Jovi. The comparison is not fair. Bon Jovi lost his voice very early on. Axl’s was maintained until 2017, a few rough spots along the way, but overall, still hitting F#5s/G5s in every show
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I feel like if you do it right, you should get a better singing voice with age right, I mean all those years of practice would add up
It depends on how you're using your voice. Axel destroyed his voice.
he damaged his vocal chords. I dunno if it's permanent or short term.
Unless you're a smoker😮