The certified licenses might change wording and I doubt you could use wayback machine to see if any changes were made there. So this is another reason to download those.
I think that the answer is obvious. No, you cannot sell a song because what if that song uses a sample that I also used. Or 100 others. I’ve seen a vocal get used on like 10 songs. “Get Personal” from Splice. What if someone copyrights the song or worse sells it. Now all 100 of us are screwed. Forget selling. The bigger question is if someone copyrights or scans into UA-cam as “their” song First. What about all 100 of us, now we have to share profits. That is what you should focus on.
when you use royalty free samples you are not supposed to register a song with copyright office or content ID systems cos you dont own the copyright of that sample. you just have a license to exploit it commercially. its not splices fault that people register songs with content ID when they are not suppose to. the fault is with the person who illegally registers music as if they own the copyright when they dont. There needs to be a better system in place where we can alert the correct people about the person who illegally registers the song like they own the copyright
The amount of bureaucracy and legal terms to make a simple song is incredible! And if you breach the terms in the slightest you will be prosecuted as if you were a criminal of the worst kind. Copyright laws need to be revised from top to bottom, make them fairer and simplify them once and for all.
"This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern." Woody Guthrie
I am not a musician, or even musically talented or trained, but I'm a bit of a nerd, and enjoy watching videos about areas well outside of my area of experience. I love how well you break them down so that a layperson, even entirely outside of the industry, can understand what is going on. I amused myself watching this particular video when I thought "wow, that phrase really came out with a musical tone! Oh wait... duh, she's a musician!"
How I work is to NEVER use samples that contain instruments that are more than a one shot. I'll use percussion loops but chop em up to an unrecognizable amount. Thats as far as I've ever gone with samples. I don't have splice at all, but I'm kinda mad that some of the pack makers have their entire libraries on splice. It used to be good sport to find rare packs... stuff that no one would know... now I dunno if I will ever even use one shots. Been having a whole lot of fun distorting & re-amping lately :)) this whole sample thing reminds me of amazon. a subtle reminder that the world is going to sh8. in a metaphorical way >> back when humans invented cars + the lathe + a mill, stuff like a microwave. now were lucky if someone "thinks" of a new app. Next biggest thing is probly gonna be a pizza oven hat that auto-feeds your face.
@TopMusicAttorney When Splice launched their new offices here (years ago) they invited a bunch of us 'muckedy-muck' producers for a walk-through / meeting. At that time the Terms of Service had some very vague language that seemed to indicate that any record made with a splice sample would legally be considered a 'derivative work'. I found this alarming, to put in mildly.. I brought it up in the meeting and all I will say is that I wish I had a sample of all the harrumphing, hemming, and hawing that ensued..
What happens if you die? Does your estate get the rights to the samples in the music you created, or does your ghost have to come back and get permission from Splice to transfer the credits to your next of kin?
Off topic question: With Kujo Beat Down being released, did Ren leave himself open to any sort of charges as to threatening behavior? I noted throughout the video he actually only uttered a couple of things that might be considered threats and even those were mostly oblique, and avoided direct references, but the video itself can be seen as fairly extreme. Would his disclaimer at the end help him in this case? (I think not because of the "I'll deal with problems personally" line that could be construed as threatening if other parts of the video/song are.)
I was wondering am I able to copyright my music with splice samples? Apparently splice says it is okay as long as it in combination of your music but as itself obviously that I’m aware is not good
Hey there, I study music law as well. The answer is yes, you can copyright it because you will own the new recording and what you are copyrighting is the recording. Splice only owns the sound used in the new recording, but as the terms of service say, you get to keep 100% of the rights of any composition you make. You simply cannot re-sell the splice sample you use by itself.
I have joined Bandcamp and signed their electronic contract but shortly after they modified the contract. This happened some time back when I had joined some years earlier and they did the same thing. I would love to know what you think of this and in layman's terms. Its seems a bit strange.!!!!
thanks for going over this can you do a run down of the fl studio eula I am curious what you think -- -note it is under "belgian law" and Antelope would be nice too, it is under Bulgarian law.
What this means you can use their controlled product but you can't use the music and sample to make money from it. So what is the point of getting beats? I think they are claiming the music that people use their samples on. Also do Splice actually own the samples? To me it is like a rent idea for the persons inventing the sample.
Chapters in description. 😃
The certified licenses might change wording and I doubt you could use wayback machine to see if any changes were made there. So this is another reason to download those.
I think that the answer is obvious. No, you cannot sell a song because what if that song uses a sample that I also used. Or 100 others. I’ve seen a vocal get used on like 10 songs. “Get Personal” from Splice. What if someone copyrights the song or worse sells it. Now all 100 of us are screwed. Forget selling. The bigger question is if someone copyrights or scans into UA-cam as “their” song First. What about all 100 of us, now we have to share profits. That is what you should focus on.
Good point. I'd like to see her answer this.
when you use royalty free samples you are not supposed to register a song with copyright office or content ID systems cos you dont own the copyright of that sample. you just have a license to exploit it commercially. its not splices fault that people register songs with content ID when they are not suppose to.
the fault is with the person who illegally registers music as if they own the copyright when they dont.
There needs to be a better system in place where we can alert the correct people about the person who illegally registers the song like they own the copyright
The amount of bureaucracy and legal terms to make a simple song is incredible! And if you breach the terms in the slightest you will be prosecuted as if you were a criminal of the worst kind. Copyright laws need to be revised from top to bottom, make them fairer and simplify them once and for all.
"This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern."
Woody Guthrie
I am not a musician, or even musically talented or trained, but I'm a bit of a nerd, and enjoy watching videos about areas well outside of my area of experience. I love how well you break them down so that a layperson, even entirely outside of the industry, can understand what is going on. I amused myself watching this particular video when I thought "wow, that phrase really came out with a musical tone! Oh wait... duh, she's a musician!"
How I work is to NEVER use samples that contain instruments that are more than a one shot. I'll use percussion loops but chop em up to an unrecognizable amount. Thats as far as I've ever gone with samples. I don't have splice at all, but I'm kinda mad that some of the pack makers have their entire libraries on splice. It used to be good sport to find rare packs... stuff that no one would know... now I dunno if I will ever even use one shots. Been having a whole lot of fun distorting & re-amping lately :)) this whole sample thing reminds me of amazon. a subtle reminder that the world is going to sh8. in a metaphorical way >> back when humans invented cars + the lathe + a mill, stuff like a microwave. now were lucky if someone "thinks" of a new app. Next biggest thing is probly gonna be a pizza oven hat that auto-feeds your face.
and thats the reason NOT to use splice. They refuse to allow the transfer of samples.
Can someone just tell me if I get to use my acquired credits after cancellation of my subscription? All this legal jargon hurts my brain 😅😭
moral of the story. (for me) write your own shit.
@TopMusicAttorney When Splice launched their new offices here (years ago) they invited a bunch of us 'muckedy-muck' producers for a walk-through / meeting. At that time the Terms of Service had some very vague language that seemed to indicate that any record made with a splice sample would legally be considered a 'derivative work'. I found this alarming, to put in mildly.. I brought it up in the meeting and all I will say is that I wish I had a sample of all the harrumphing, hemming, and hawing that ensued..
Guys make sure you like and subscribe!! She needs to be pushed because her voice is important. Thankyou madam❤️
What happens if you die? Does your estate get the rights to the samples in the music you created, or does your ghost have to come back and get permission from Splice to transfer the credits to your next of kin?
Isn't inheritance inalienable for any contractual relationship that isn't an employment contract?
Off topic question: With Kujo Beat Down being released, did Ren leave himself open to any sort of charges as to threatening behavior? I noted throughout the video he actually only uttered a couple of things that might be considered threats and even those were mostly oblique, and avoided direct references, but the video itself can be seen as fairly extreme. Would his disclaimer at the end help him in this case? (I think not because of the "I'll deal with problems personally" line that could be construed as threatening if other parts of the video/song are.)
No matter what they say on the phone, the contract language is it.
Exactly!
Thanks
Excellently reported and academically solid
Love your channel.
I was wondering am I able to copyright my music with splice samples? Apparently splice says it is okay as long as it in combination of your music but as itself obviously that I’m aware is not good
Hey there, I study music law as well. The answer is yes, you can copyright it because you will own the new recording and what you are copyrighting is the recording. Splice only owns the sound used in the new recording, but as the terms of service say, you get to keep 100% of the rights of any composition you make. You simply cannot re-sell the splice sample you use by itself.
More shenanigans in the Ponziocene! It would seem lawyers are the thriving species in this current age:)
What about those us who were splice members BEFORE the certified contract thing, and are no longer using Splice?
I have joined Bandcamp and signed their electronic contract but shortly after they modified the contract. This happened some time back when I had joined some years earlier and they did the same thing. I would love to know what you think of this and in layman's terms. Its seems a bit strange.!!!!
thanks for going over this can you do a run down of the fl studio eula I am curious what you think -- -note it is under "belgian law" and Antelope would be nice too, it is under Bulgarian law.
Just ask Ren about how these sample services can mess you up.
Splice has always taken a shrugged off we don't care kinda attitude to these things for so long 🤦♂️
I'm hesitant to restart my subscription
I use a ton of samples, oops, I mean real people playing music.
Uh, is the new effective date a mistype or are they literally making this new agreement retroactive to 2014?!?!?
DIstrokid just updated theirs , can you do a Video?
What this means you can use their controlled product but you can't use the music and sample to make money from it. So what is the point of getting beats? I think they are claiming the music that people use their samples on. Also do Splice actually own the samples? To me it is like a rent idea for the persons inventing the sample.
Great!
good thing splice pays me...