Oxford Rail Adams Radial Tank | Unboxing & Review (Motor Fails on Camera!)
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Love the grace, dignity & design of this Victorian Locomotive. I also think the greyhounds were a classic of Victorian design
Thanks Leroy, I agree - fantastic looking models! :D
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IM GONNA GET CROSS AND SMACK IT! 👋
-Sam'sTrains 2019
haha! xD
Just me or does that seem a really high rating for something with a damning failure in that motor
Crazy score. Only high score it should get is for detail.
Yeah I see your point. The rating was based on the fact that the motor failure (hopefully) isn't an issue with every model. The more I think about it though, I should have been more harsh given that 2/2 of mine have failed!
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No worries, its all about talking as a community, an I understand your point of view, if people weren't differant the world would be rather boring! Keep up the good work!
Good points,well made.
@@SamsTrains sam could you look and investigate the motor and maybe see if you can do your own motor swap for a different one from different supplier? It could be the fix everyone needs if the motor can be changed
The first Atlantic wheel arrangement locomotives were 4-4-2T, effectively 4-4-0 tender locomotives developed into a tank design with a trailing single axle added to provide support and balance for the extra weight of the water tank and rear coal bunker. 4-4-2 tender locomotives came later. Whether tank or tender arrangements are used for the consumables, they are both Atlantics!
Ooh very interesting James - thanks a lot for this! :D
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Sam :)
Well, I was kind of tempted by this. But the motor issue is a huge no no.
Yeah for sure - the motors are a huge let down :(
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What an unbelievable pretty and well detailed model loco for this price! Thank you for your videos and greetings from Germany (where simply ALL model trains are unbelievable expensive and their producers seem to be greedy - regardless of the consequences...)
haha thanks very much mate! Yeah I've had that impression about European manufacturers at times too!! :O
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Hi Sam, great video as ever. I have an LSWR one I picked up second hand for £40, so if ever the motor fails I won’t be too put out having to replace it.
The other problem with the bogie is the NEM pocket catches on the buffer beam on changes in gradient. It’s a shame about the rear pony truck, but it’s worth remembering this was Oxford’s first attempt at a loco.
Nice choice of odd one out by the way ;) given that modified versions of the C1 were built by the LBSC.
Thanks Jim - yeah that doesn't sound too bad! And interesting - I've not come across that issue before! :O
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Hi Sam, Fantastic review,thank you. So refreshing to find impartial,thorough and scientific evaluation in railway models.
Given your liking for pre-grouping,steam locomotives with die-cast chassis, gorgeous lining and beautifully applied details. It is also a dependable runner and on offer in retailers around the century mark. Great value IMHO.
These things had a pretty long working life! A few were used of the Lyme Regis branch until the 1960’s, I think! There was simply nothing else that could round the corners while having the power.
Thanks for the info Harry- I didn't know this!
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Sam, thank you so much for what you do for the train community!
It's nothing mate, appreciate your kind words! :D
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That is a VERY beautiful engine. I have the Southern Radial tank, and like you, I too have had problems with the motor. Oiling it every so often helps keep it cool and prevents it from over heating too much, and it runs great. But I've had to do A LOT of fiddling with the motor and pick-ups to get it working right.
Cheers Chris - yes, I keep fiddling the my motors too - a good clean out does fix it for a time, but the issue comes back in the end :/
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Probably in my top ten. Just classic and beautiful
Absolutely - they're so lovely aren't they?! :D
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Oxford Radial Tank: *exists*
Motor: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
haha absolutely! ;D
No one: a model railway video exists
Big Chungus: I'm about to end this whole man's career
@@flat2sqright na not me
*Dose the looks to one side meme*
Beautiful model Sam! I heard the preserved examples overhaul requires new wheels and a new boiler barrel or entirely new boiler! I hope and wish the Bluebell will overhaul the engine sometime!
Thanks a lot Ryno - blimey, that sounds quite a job!!
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I have probably done things the wrong way round because I have not built my circuit layout yet and I have purchased the trains I like first. I went to a fair and purchased a Bachmann Midland 1F which luckily you gave a good review. I also purchased a Oxford Adams Rail Black BR 30582 because I fell in love with it the detail is second to none. I paid £65 for it so it was cheap. I was told the dealer bought up 10 of these bankrupt stock and it was the last he had. He did take it out and tried it and it ran ok. Having watched your review I’m a little worried that I may get motor problems, but your advice will help me be cautious with it. It is such a cracking model I will still be happy with it. I will do the modification with the front spring and cut it down to help it run on the track better so that’s a positive. Thanks for all your advice and keep up with the great videos.
haha that's fair enough mate - you need something to run when you get your track together! Hope all goes well with yours - you might well get away with it!
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One of my favorite models just has a certain charm to me thanks for the video
Yeah I agree - they are very charming! :D
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Such a great review Sam. So eloquent and informative. Two points, and forgive me for not having trawled through all the other responses. One, as a point of interest. It is my understanding that after being taken out of service to put into storage and brought back by British rail to run on the line Regis line where they did very successfully. Secondly, a question. Is it not feasible simply to buy a cheap replacement motor. I love your reviews
I have the BR black oxford rail version of this and it's pretty well detailed. I haven't run her yet but I might need to do the modifications first to prevent the issues. Although Oxford might have updated the motor as this model of yours might have been in stock for a while without the updated motor
Thanks Ben - yes they are beautifully detailed aren't they?! That's very possible - I don't know whether they've updated them or not!
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Good review Sam
Yes it is an Atlantic, other railways which had 4-4-2T's, the GWR. NER, GCR, GNR and NBR to name a few (and most pre grouping railways built some), refered to them officially as Atlantic tanks.
Anway, great model, and not often you see a loco in the livery of one of the small independent 'light' railways. Same about the mechanical issues. Still its a learning curve for Oxford Rail
Jon
Thanks a lot for that Jon - and yeah I agree, lovely to see a loco in a livery like this one!
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I love your reviews Sam. They're well produced, very fair and insightful. But I can't help but feel if this was a Hornby or Bachmann model with the same motor problems, you would of marked it well down on the ratings.
100% we should support smaller companies they make great models like Oxford Rail though. I myself bought the OR Dean Goods off the back of your review and love it.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much Dan, you're very kind! I tried to take into account that not all examples will have the motor issues - but I agree, looking back it seems too lenient!
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Just modded the spring, transformative - thanks Sam. The new olive version 3520 seems ok with a dcc chip. My layout is designed for short shunting & not a loop so I can’t see if extended running makes the motor hot.
24:21 M7: ha you've lost. Adams Radial Tank: come on motor
haha! ;D
What shall I say... indeed a beautiful and very detailed model.
Thanks a lot Norbert, glad you liked her! :D
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Hey Sam, funny story.
I was out in Glasgow for my birthday, went down to a pizza hut and had a nice lunch. When I leave 7 FIRE TRUCKS are parked outside the Poundland nextdoor to the pizza hut. The fire alarm was ringing and I saw everyone evacuating the building. Up above, there was scaffolding on the building. Apparently the scaffolding at the top had collapsed and fell into an open window with a candle inside!
So I just walked across the street and bought the book ' Loco Spotter's Guide ' from Waterstones like nothing ever happened!
-JJ
Blimey JJ! That sounds quite dramatic! Why on earth did they call the fire department for that?!? ;D
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At the start of this review I was going to buy one Sam. Now I've seen it, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. As a customer, you shouldn't be thinking "I hope it'll be alright". I've a O R Dean Goods and wouldn't pull you out of bed either. Great review though, alll the best, Terry.
Yeah you're right of course Terry - not ideal if you don't like a faff! I've heard the Hornby ones are better, so I might pick one up to test! :D
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30583 needs not just an overhall but a hole new boiler. So the loco is well and truly nackered. Love your vids mate ceep it up
Blimey! Quite serious then - let's hope they do it one day!! :O
Thanks a lot for your kind words,
Sam :)
Any plans to review the kernow Model railway Centre Adams O2 class tank engine?
I haven't thought about it - it might be a nice one to try though! :D
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Technically the motor didn't fail. Fantastic review Sam! Two words: Diesels please!
I think technically it did; it failed to perform as it was expected to!
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Beautifully detailed model Sam, pity about the performance, might be a brush spring tension issue. A debate about wheel arrangements also happens down here in "OZ". In South Australia we claim the S.A.R. 720class 2-8-4's were the only "Berkshires" in Australia while Western Australians say that the K class suburban tank engines were also 2-8-4's. The argument continues ! The 720's were more commonly known as "Big Mikado's". Cheers, David Barnes.
Thanks David - yes it could well be an issue like that - but it's a nightmare to get those motors open - I've attempted it once, and I wouldn't do it again ;)
Appreciate the comment,
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Hi Sam, Mine is now more than 3 years. A DCC-sound version. I modified the rear axle and front bogie and she is a good runner.
I also had correct the speaker vibrating in the housing. Well RTR ...Ready To Repair. Not a strong puller dough. Sorry yours is defect. Maybe change the motor - not that difficult. Good luck & greetings.
Glad to hear you could fix yours Filip - yes no doubt the motor is to blame in mine, but I'm struggling to find a good replacement - I don't just want to fit another one from Oxford!
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Sam :)
Since the Robinson A5 is called a Pacific tank engine, I think it’s safe to say that this can be called an Atlantic tank engine
Thanks a lot for clarifying - I'd agree! :D
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Atlantic? They were a development of the 4-4-0 tank locomotives designed by Adams for the North London Railway. They had very little coal capacity and the LSWR design was a modification with trailing wheels are to support the extended coal bunker.
Thanks for letting me know Henry! I suppose it can be called an Atlantic then!
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1) Is it possible to drill a small hole down the funnel in order to have more ventilation to the motor?
2) Is it possible to put a tiny fan inside of it next to the motor so it can at least cool the engine a bit?
3) BEAUTIFUL loco! It’s just let down by its motor, which is a shame. And great video too!
Hey Kris - I'm sure that would be possible, but the motor isn't directly underneath the funnel, and I don't know how big a difference it'd make.
The overheating problem I think is due to the unsuitability of the motor for this application - it'd be best to find a replacement if anything!
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Sam'sTrains oh! I get it. A replacement seems like the better option 🤣
Hi Sam! Mine, in Southern livery, hasn't had motor problems. Lucky, since returning items from the US to the UK can cost quite a bit! Thanks though for the spring tip. Mine wouldn't go over a 60 deg. rail crossing.
Hi Robert, glad to hear that mate - let me know how you go on once you've modded the spring!
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Had a good laugh at the way you described its inadequate running. Well done mate.
haha thanks Sam - I enjoy having the opportunity to slay something ;)
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We've got a Southern Black version and have never had a problem with the motor, however the chassis problem persists, might have to try your fix
Glad to hear your motor seems sound - at least the chassis problems are much more easily corrected!
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Very enjoyable viewing over Sunday lunch. Will not be adding Oxford Rail, to my collection of nearly 200 OOs locos.
Thanks very much mate, hope you had a good lunch! Oxford have made some fantastic models lately - but as their first motorised one, this left a lot to be desired!
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What a shame Sam, that such a beautiful model has these running issues...should be such an easy thing to fix....Great Review...Bob
Thanks a lot Bob! Yes it's a real shame - if I could only find a suitable motor to replace it, it should be nice and easy! :D
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8:02 This Famous Locomotive Adams Radial Tank From The Bluebell Railway Is Also Appears On Sheena Easton's No.1 Hit Single Morning Train 9 To 5 Back In 1981. Thanks Sam'sTrains Mate. X
That's very cool Luke - I didn't know about that! :D
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It was all the reported problems that prevented me from buying this....otherwise it's a beautiful engine.....Oxford Rail has certainly learnt from this in that they are producing fantastic models....love my N7.....thanks Sam....
I think you were wise to be honest - but they certainly have improved greatly over this last year! :D
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Wow, it’s a funny coincidence that your model of the Adam’s Radial Tank Engine has the exact same colour scheme as the only remaining real life Adam’s Radial Tank Engine!
Yeah absolutely - it's the same livery! :D
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I was at a model railway fair yesterday and I actually nearly bought one of them but watching this I am glad I didn't get one
haha glad to hear that mate - no not a reliable model this one :(
I was at one in October 2019 and walked out with a Standard 4 4-6-0 and a black 5 4-6-0 (75073 + 44666) as well as a book about the standards and the austerities
It's cool how the one you have got is the same number and livery as the one that is preserved
Yeah it is cool - glad Oxford Did that! :D
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@@SamsTrains makes it at least a bit better
I've had a BR Black Adams Radial for a while myself. Unfortunately, the motor gave out after a single running session. It didn't slow down. The motor just seized and it never worked again. I hope Oxford works on the issues with these engines, as they add quite a bit of grace to a layout in my honest opinion. My BR Radial is, unfortunately, a static engine in my roundhouse until I can fix the thing myself, or swap the motor for a new one.
Sorry to hear that mate - but certainly not surprised - luckily their later models do seem to be much better in that area!
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Received the Southern version of this last Christmas. It has run like a bag of spanners since I first took it out of the box. Bad smell of burning oil, hot motor, barely moves under 70% power, stops on some points. Will trim the spring one day but I have lost the will to live with it. Great looking loco but everything else is bad.
Wish I had watched this prior to purchase.Bought as birthday present for someone from Kent. ,On the big day tried running it in. Moved very slowly then failed to move at all with a distinct smell of burning and the body of the loco was hot to touch. Missed the 14 day return as I had bought it some weeks previously. The on line retailer said they would contact Oxford and I can send to them for fixing? I do not have expertise at all but I think there is a fundamental design flaw that is not fixable.
What a usefull video with a nice fault fix. it is shame that the motor is so weak
Thanks a lot - yeah the motors truly let these down :(
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You can grind a litte bit the housing of the rear axle to make it sit a little bit higher from the tracks
I have thought about that - but I'm not sure I'd fancy it! :O
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I had the Southern livery version with sound, factory fitted, and had no issues as far as I can remember. A little bit of wheel slip is about the only issue I had.
Glad to hear that George - looks like you got a good one! :D
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That tank engine is better known to me as Adam, he's one of the Middies off of Victor Tanzig's "Stories of Sodor"!
Yeah you're absolutely right! :D
I have literally put my BR Black one on my layout about an hour ago and straight away it barely moves at all. It looks lovely but I think I will have to get it repaired.
Yeah, that's the common issue... I will be doing a video at some point showing how to clear out the old lubricant and service these... provided the motor isn't totally faulty, that will produce an improvement. Try not to run it in the mean time - the motor may be under great strain!
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Sam, send it to Oxford Rail and see what happens. Nothing to lose. I sent a Pendolino motor coach back to Hornby that I dropped and it got smashed. Guess what? Unbelievable, they replaced the body no charge! Same with Roco, damaged loco, repaired it again no charge. These locos were a few years old as well! Give it a try, nothing to lose?!
But I've had it for so long, I doubt they'd accept it! Blimey, that's very good of Hornby! I do know a guy at Oxford, might be worth asking I suppose!
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This is why I got the Hornby version of 488 in preservation colours.
Fantastic! Does it run better?? :D
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I just looked at this andMYGOODNESS ITS SO CUTE
Thanks for reviewing this
-David
Cheers mate! Yes it is very cute! :3
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My new favorite loco you reviewed appearance wise
Glad to hear that! They are gorgeous aren't they?! :D
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Went for the Hornby wartime black model. Very pleased with it.
Lucky you John - that's a great looking one! :D
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Hard to believe these faults were not detected during pre release testing, but cynically over looked in haste to get to market. You are generous in your assessment of performance and 72 pounds IS a lot of money for a model not fit for purpose !
Yeah you're right Ivan - I can't understand how they signed off on these! Any amount of testing would have clearly demonstrated these issues! You're right - on consideration I was too generous!
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In the thomas universe The E K R is the Elsbridge and Knapford Railway before pre-grouping. (before the big four)
Ooh really?! I never knew that! :O
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Hi Sam. Regardless of weather they are a tank or a tender locomotive, the wheel configuration of 4 4 2 is generally known as atlantics. so the adams radial tank is an atlantic tank. it's the same with the Gresley A5s which are pacific tank engines, which have yet to appear on the model railway seen, but maybe time will tell. And you say don't put more than 2 coaches on her. but from what I can establish from the sounds of the steam age sound effect cds and cassettes which you use to get, and I believe there are a few floating round on Amazon, the most that the radial tanks would pull in they're operational years is 2 coaches any way. so it would make sense pretty much. It's a shame that this particular radial tank and it's elder sister is suffering from motor issues, but if I remember correctly, this was 1 of Oxford rail's products, and they were finding their feet at the time. maybe some time in the future they might re-issue the radial tank with an improved pole 5 motor or something. after all your latest dean goods locomotive worked fine did it not? so it is a possibility. good work on those videos.
Thanks for this Nick, I thought as such! Glad to hear that they can pull a prototypical load - though I'm sure the real thing could have managed more than two coaches without a major meltdown ;)
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It can be classified as an Atlantic as the LB&SCR built 3 types of 4-4-2 and those were classified as Atlantic tanks and as well as the GNR who built some of there own
Duly noted Leonardo - thanks for that! :D
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God, your reviews are so entertaining. I wish I could have a little model railway but it's a bit too expensive. Oh well. Hope you have a good say Sam! PS: Only reason I even know of Adams is because of the RWS.
Thanks so much my friend! Yes they are very expensive - it's a real shame :(
Oh yes of course - I've heard about Adam before! :D
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I just came up with an idea:Atlantic running session!
Awesome!! Once I have a few more, I'll definitely try it! :D
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I only have the Hornby one and NO, u can see trough all the way under the boiler, and has no issues pulling 20 small wagons on flat! But I think the Oxford has the better cab detail, and pilot/pony wheel shape!
Blimey, that sounds much better then, at least on performance! :D
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yes it is an Atlantic, Atlantic is just the name of the wheel configeration, regardless of tender loco or not
Thanks a lot for this - appreciate the tip! :D
Please can you review a Hornby one to see if they are better? Maybe you could do a comparison video!
I'm hoping to, yeah! :D
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Loverly engine, it's a great shame about the motor, I hope the problem is fixed. Its a shame the standard gauge engine hasn't run since 1990, I live very close to the bluebell, I would love to see it back. Well done great video 👍
Thanks George - yeah hopefully I'll be able to find some better motors one day! I'd love to see her back too! :3
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I literally just checked Hattons for the price of these locomotives and the cheapest one was £88 ($166 for Australia). The EKR green one however was £97. Just saying in case people are interested.
Ahh yeah - have they changed the prices? I did film this one quite a long time ago!
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Sam can you have a look at the motor on it and maybe do surgery and change out the orginal motor for a different one like for like if their is one see if that is the issue? Could be the fix were all looking for. Their strumming models and would be nice to have them working properly with a motor that is up to the task
Yeah that's what I'm wanting to do - yet to find a suitable replacement though! :(
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Great video Sam it looks good in that green but I don't know whether to get one with the problems with the rear axle and now motor problems
Thanks David - yeah that's understandable, can't say I've been very impressed with these of mine :(
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Thanks for the tip about the pony truck and its spring. I will do this on mine, I'm expecting it to arrive this friday. Hope I would not have issues with the motor, but I've got mine for GBP 64 at Hattons (Southern black model), so, I can take the chance...
Anyway, it seems that it is mostly a quality issue on the batch of motors they had bought. If it would be an innapropriate mecanism, that would affect ALL the production batch, and not some locomotives at random. It is my opinion and I may be wrong but, now, I know what to look for in priority (get a box of paper handkerchieves next to me to be able to proper smell if mine is ok or have the same perfume as a forrest wildfire after five minutes of running half throttle) when I would run mine on my test track.
I'll be back in a few days to let you know if I consider my copy ready for service or good to cross the Channel a second time directily down to Liverpool. Crossing fingers now !
No problem mate, hope it works for you too! That price is very reasonable - though you can always return it if the performance isn't good!
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@@SamsTrains Short story : motor burned out after two hours of running time at slow speed in both directions as my usual run-in procedure. And it was really running awfully slow ! I am dealing with Hattons to have a delay to send them back, I cannot do it right now (post office does not take parcels right now to international locations due to workforce limitations). I will try to swap it for the Hornby model, which is a little bit more expensive. Seems Oxford Rail had put a batch of defective motors in their locomotives...
At last, I would not have a model that works at random, and whose performances get worse day by day until broken...
I have seen the Adams tank in the EKR Green at the NRM, she isn't in the best state at the moment. I was going to get an Oxford Adams tank, its a shame the motor gave way. I bought a hornby br black version instead. Thanks for the info! - TSF06
Thanks a lot for sharing - would be amazing to see her restored one day!
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Hornby Radial tank: Have fun, Slippy!
Oxford Rail Radial tank: Says you Mr. Short-out!
haha!! xD
prices might of dropped in the uk but in NZ their still 360nzd thats quite alot for a dcc ready loco but out of the adams radial tanks im tempted to see how a hornby radial would compare??? but on the plus side oxford do make beautifully detailed models and i love how finely detailed they are with only 1 issue which is the coupler seems to slip out of the dove tail socket but im sure is does not compare to the lovely N7 tank
Blimey, yeah never pay that for them - especially with the faults! It would be great to try a Hornby one too! :D
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Im surprised there isn't a market for motorless chassis/bodies. It would be somewhat cheaper to get a highly detailed model and you could put what motor you see fit
Yeah but it's a huge can of worms isn't it? Laymen wouldn't be able to handle it... what gears to use? Which motors fit? How do you secure them? It'd be a major hassle!
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I got an oxford rail wellwagon and steam roller from a model shop in Haworth, near the KWVR station and I never noticed it looked like a blood and custard coach!
edit: 9:54 name the component and there's lining. wheels. Ha!
That sounds fantastic - are they good?? haha well done ;)
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Sam'sTrains yep. The steam roller was a very unexpected surprise because I thought a truck like that was a bit expensive but the steamroller is an added bonus. I have a video on my channel about it. It is a little while ago though
darn, that looks great, I am going to build one in space engineers, as a tram.
haha that'd be awesome! :D
its looking great sofar, sadly I had an explosion on another part of the line and I am stuck over their. :(
I have a br black radial from Oxford. Haven't had a single issue with her and my track is in appalling condition at the moment
Glad to hear yours was much better - sounds like you got a good one! :D
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I love the design of this locomotive
Me too!! :D
I hope Project Genesis eventually makes some East Kent Railway coaches to go with this engine!
That would be fantastic actually - might have to put a suggestion in!
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Change the motor? Apparently, they are fitted with a 5 pole motor (saw this on the Oxford Rail website). Hope that helps.
Best, Pete.
Bought an Oxford one off Hatton's for £64 the other week but it just would not go, at all. Crawled light engine. Returned it sadly but picked up Hornby's instead which is equally superb and actually works. A shame about these though, they were bargains.
Sorry to hear that Henry - yes that's very typical! Hornby's are indeed much better! :D
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Really nice looking train there. I fancied an Adams Radial myself but I'm not going to get one because of the motor problems and I don't want to risk it
Thanks Cameron! Yes that's understandable - though the Hornby ones seem to be much better, if you really wanted one! :D
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Wheel arrangements aren't affected by the tender. The Adams is an Atlantic.
Duly noted Lucas, thanks for clarifying!
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Aye
I wonder why everyone said C1 4-4-2 990 Henry Oakley was the first Atlantic in Britain if the 0415s came first then?
Agreed. We refer to 2-6-2T locomotives as "Prairie tanks" all the time, and nobody bats an eyelid.
Referring to a 4-4-2T locomotive as an "Atlantic tank" is a bit weird, but not incorrect (and the weirdness just comes from it being a relatively unusual wheel arrangement on a tank engine)
Can't wait to see it pull some of the new Hattons 4 or 6 wheel coaches
haha - the way it's going, it won't be around long enough to try!
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I’m afraid that if it doesn’t run well then I’d mark it right down, so I think you’ve been unduly lenient there. I’d give it Nil points. You are right on Bachmann costs v Oxford .
Yeah that's fair enough Russell - I treated the motor failure as a one off (IE not present on every model), but it sounds as though that isn't the case!
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Also do you have BR Mark II coaches? If yes, please do a running session with them or at least make a rake of those coaches for the loco to haul when you review another loco, I really like the style of those coaches (my favorite BR rolling stock actually). If they already appear on your channel then sorry for not noticing. Thank you!
I think I have a few yeah - and I like them too actually, very lovely! :D
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It's a lovely locomotive but it's pulling capabilities are poor which makes unsuitable for my outdoor layout great review Sam.
Yes that's certainly true - though they will always be quite weak, given their size and wheel configurations!
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Thanks for showing Sam. Sadly another Ready To Repair. I have one with sound and had to isolate the speaker plus the work on the front and rear bogie. Very nice model that needs added weight in the boiler. (See some reviews here on YT ) and then she becomes a rocket. Amazing how this goes in production and is commercialized with flaws in the mechanical design !! Mr Adam's is turning himself in his grave !! A real shame. Cheers, filip
Thanks Filip, yes a bit of a shame with this one. Sorry to hear you've had a faff too - not the best design on this one for sure!
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I had a look, the axles appear to be like that on the one preserved at the bluebell railway.
Ahh okay, thanks a lot for letting me know! :D
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I have the same model and have spoken to you before about how they smell and get hot and slow right down. Such a shame as it’s otherwise I lovely little loco.
Yeah you're right Chris - such a nightmare isn't it? Hopefully Oxford's days of using poor motors are well behind them!
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Adam the wellsworth and suddery engine
Excellent review of the Oxford Rail ‘Adams’ Radial tank Sam 👍
I feel sorry for you as they are really great models of ‘Adams’ tank to run on your layout and they keep on stopping & slowing along.
What I think you should do is to buy a Hornby version to see the different between the two and you should buy it at Warley exhibition and do a reboot video to see what is your impression.
I myself got a Oxford Rail ‘Adams’ Radial tank which is the one on the Bluebell Railway but in LSWR livery and it runs fine(as shown in my video of the model), but I have to take your word for it as I don’t want any fire on my boards and now I given it a limited run on the layout.
Thanks a lot Joe - not to worry, can't be helped! I think I might try a Hornby one some day though - I've heard they're more reliable!
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Finally I always wanted this to be reviewed.
Thank you! Hope you enjoy it! :D
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Great video. You could get the hornby adams radial 488 or any types of adams radial locomotives that they have. Just saying. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Cody - yes I'd love to try one of those!! :D
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I'm lucky; l actually have a version (LSWR) that works, and it was only £45 including postage!
Blimey mate - that was an amazing buy - good one!! :D
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We need something like OR for the North American market
Yeah absolutely - that'd go down well! :D
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I have some uneven track and could see the rear axle position lifted the driving wheels enough to stall the logo's progress, so not realising the fix shown in your excellent video, I took off the rear axle and using a rat-tail file I easily removed some metal from the underside channel for the wheel's axle, put it all back together and it works just fine. Nice to know of your fix for the front bogie :-) I have had no issues with slow or erratic running or over heating. Beautifully presented locomotive.
Hi Drew - yes that's another common fix - glad to hear that worked well for you - it's a pain we have to do anything like this though of course!
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Adams class it's looked amazing
Thanks Jack - I agree! :D
Such a shame as it is a good looking engine at a great price and if you are only going to display it then its a bargain . But if you are looking to run it then it's no good if you cannot rely on it running. If you buy it from Hattons or other online stores then you have the hassle and cost of keep sending them back until you manage to find one that works . The first duty of a manufacturer is to provide a reliable motor .I was looking at a grey N7 and hope that is more reliable.
Thanks mate, yeah I agree - sadly out of the box most of them seem to be only fit for static display really! Though retailers should cover the cost of the return, I agree it is a lot of hassle. Luckily the N7 is leaps and bounds better than this! :D
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The official title for 4-4-2 tanks are "Atlantic Tanks". Its the same with Pacific Tanks and Prarie Tanks etc.
Duly noted, thanks for this!! :D
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@@SamsTrains Your welcome sam :D