Jammed stabilizer. Air Canada Airbus A330 has flight control problem at Toronto. Real ATC

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
  • THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
    08-APR-2024. An Air Canada Airbus A330-300 (A333), registration C-GEGC, performing flight ACA935 / AC935 from Punta Cana International Airport (Dominican Republic) to Toronto Pearson International Airport (Canada) during descent towards Toronto declared PAN-PAN, reported jammed stabilizer and multiple failures. The pilots requested long final due to flight control issue and increased approach speed. The flight crew reported their intentions to stop on the runway after landing and requested the emergency services to meet them after landing.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Description of situation
    00:17 Air Canada Airbus A330 reports jammed stabilizer on approach to Toronto
    02:05 Pilot reports souls on board and fuel on board
    03:29 The airplane turns inbound final
    04:35 Landing at Toronto Pearson International Airport. Communications on the ground
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    THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
    THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
    SOURCES OF MATERIAL, LICENSES AND PERMISSIONS:
    Source of communications - www.liveatc.net/ (I have a permission (Letter) for commercial use of radio communications from LiveATC.net).
    Map, aerial pictures (License (ODbL) ©OpenStreetMap -www.openstreetmap.org/copyrig...) Permission for commercial use, royalty-free use.
    Radar screen (In new versions of videos) - Made by author.
    Text version of communication - Made by Author.
    Video editing - Made by author.
    HOW I DO VIDEOS:
    1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
    2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
    3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
    4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
    5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
    6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
    7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 59

  • @pawepluta4883
    @pawepluta4883 Місяць тому +17

    "We have 7 tonnes of gas, half pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."

  • @craig7350
    @craig7350 Місяць тому +39

    Textbook. Clear concise communication, the controller accommodated the pilot in every way, didn't distract him with unnecessary questions.

    • @thomasaltruda
      @thomasaltruda Місяць тому +2

      Except that a flight control malfunction isn’t a Pan-pan.. immediately that’s a full emergency.. May-Day style

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME Місяць тому +2

      Are you the language police? You post this comment on every video. LOL.

    • @craig7350
      @craig7350 Місяць тому +2

      @@RLTtizME Must be someone else, I don't watch gay porn videos like you do.

    • @thomasaltruda
      @thomasaltruda Місяць тому +4

      @@RLTtizME it’s just funny how flight sim pilots, or Airbus lovers will complain EVERY time a US pilot (especially flying a Boeing) don’t say “mayday” three times and only transmit their call sign and declare an emergency, yet a non US pilot flying an Airbus gets praised here. Lol it wasn’t textbook, there were things that could have been done better, there were things that they did well, and at the end of the day, these guys did a good job, got the plane on the ground safely, but it wasn’t “textbook”.

  • @uweberning8361
    @uweberning8361 Місяць тому +20

    It seems to me, as if special aviation situations in Canada are proceeded calmer and more relaxed than many normal approaches in the USA...

    • @hot88s23
      @hot88s23 Місяць тому +5

      And always so polite.

    • @CFmurse
      @CFmurse Місяць тому

      You may be right, but I often wonder if some of the calmest, coolest pilots (especially the ones who give both time and weight of fuel remaining) are ones who follow this channel and know what calm, cool & collected actually sounds like.

  • @jawharpist
    @jawharpist Місяць тому +6

    😍 loved how atc said, "I'll need some information from you shortly."
    No pressure, y'all know what I'll be asking 😊

  • @grouperkng1
    @grouperkng1 Місяць тому +30

    "operating reasonably normally" 😐

    • @gcorriveau6864
      @gcorriveau6864 Місяць тому +1

      fwiw - Airliners have multiple computers and hydraulic systems powering the flight controls. This seems like a partial failure condition where there is 'only' a slight degradation of normal flight responses because (for example) say 1 of the 5 flight control computers has failed.

  • @t288msd
    @t288msd Місяць тому +5

    We got the Canadian "I check that". Chuffed :)

  • @esperanzabarria227
    @esperanzabarria227 Місяць тому +1

    Well done! Both sides were so calm.

  • @mikemicksun6469
    @mikemicksun6469 Місяць тому +4

    Perfect on both ends.

  • @barryo5158
    @barryo5158 Місяць тому

    Well done!

  • @markcardwell
    @markcardwell Місяць тому +1

    Nice Thx

  • @alvinhuang0704higopoo
    @alvinhuang0704higopoo Місяць тому +1

    Nice!

  • @andij605
    @andij605 Місяць тому

    well done everyone involved

  • @clqudy4750
    @clqudy4750 Місяць тому +7

    Isn't a jammed stabilizer what brought down Alaska flight 261? Guess this was different as the crew was able to land safely.

    • @beckramsey7746
      @beckramsey7746 Місяць тому +8

      On the Alaska flight it was jammed in the full downtrim position, and eventually moved far past that, this case was probably jammed in a relatively normal position

    • @josmith4626
      @josmith4626 Місяць тому +6

      Jammed initially, then the jack screw broke (worn down) sending the plane into a dive.

    • @jh.4770
      @jh.4770 Місяць тому +1

      Yes, and it then popped out of position because of the many attempts the pilots made to try to free it.

    • @MikeB-in1nd
      @MikeB-in1nd Місяць тому +3

      Yes I remember that and I believe it was a DC9 off the coast of Palos Verdes

    • @user-tk3fq9md6i
      @user-tk3fq9md6i Місяць тому +1

      ​@@MikeB-in1nd DC 10

  • @GarryWan666
    @GarryWan666 Місяць тому +15

    I am sure it's Boeing's fault /s

  • @Retired-Don
    @Retired-Don Місяць тому

    Vertical or horizontal stabilizer?

  • @othmarbrunner9639
    @othmarbrunner9639 Місяць тому

    if this would be a boeing plane they would all be grounded

  • @thomasaltruda
    @thomasaltruda Місяць тому +6

    Pan-pan? Anything flight control related is a Mayday.. no way just a pan-pan!

    • @afrophoenix3111
      @afrophoenix3111 Місяць тому +10

      Counterpoint: the aircraft appears to have been in control the entire time.
      No abnormal flight pattern, held all altitude and heading assignments, hardly any distress in the radio exchange.
      The flight crew mentioned the aircraft "operating reasonably normally" - delightfully vague, but I read that as "slightly difficult/somewhat abnormal, but not beyond our abilities." Which is almost the textbook definition of a panpan.

    • @thomasaltruda
      @thomasaltruda Місяць тому +4

      @@afrophoenix3111 countercounterpoint, anything related to a flight control issue is an immediate emergency.. a toilet that overflows, sure pan-pan. But flight control problems can get out of hand like the Alaska airlines flight. Also with a jammed Stabilizer, they have limited pitch control. Probably going to use minimal flaps, and anything that may compromise stopping ability gets an emergency.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME Місяць тому

      LOL...just say EMERGENCY. You people are a hoot.

    • @thomasaltruda
      @thomasaltruda Місяць тому +1

      @@RLTtizME I agree!! It’s funny how these non pilots think you have to say pan-pan or mayday-mayday.. lol

    • @malahammer
      @malahammer Місяць тому +1

      MAYDAY normally indicates an immediate landing is required.

  • @danielleclare2938
    @danielleclare2938 Місяць тому +1

    This does not make sense so Im going with a config issue and the Pilots were not savvy how to operate something. What the Pilot says is the problem and what it really is can be different. Quick example a plane made an emergency return to the field because the engine was misfiring... actually the seatbelt was hanging out the door banging around in the wind.

    • @007knick
      @007knick Місяць тому +1

      The fact is, it is always better to declare an emergency. Even if you don’t need it. Did the person with the seatbelt hanging out the door need it? Maybe not. Should they have checked it was in before taking off, absolutely, but they had no ability to fix it in the air. The protocol is to return to base and get on the ground safely asap.

    • @danielleclare2938
      @danielleclare2938 Місяць тому +1

      @@007knick You missed the point and the rest is redundant. Thanks for sharing.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME Місяць тому +2

      @@danielleclare2938 Your profound level of thinking is far to esoteric for You Tube Comments. USA Today letters to the editor should be commensurate with your expertise.

    • @danielleclare2938
      @danielleclare2938 Місяць тому

      @@RLTtizME Psudeo intellictual rambling you need a dictionary to understand yourself. Good luck with that. The Alphabet starts at the letter 'A'.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME Місяць тому +1

      @@danielleclare2938 Sounds like you slept through most of High School. Dullards are usually not revered. (Your classmates were playing a joke on you.) Hope your eyes are improving. 86 the hat.