I feel like an evil Cadence would be obsessive and controlling. That could’ve been a really cool storyline to explore later on in the series; when love/friendship takes a bad turn.
and she breaks hearts to make people depserate for attention and love...so They look up to her...and that's not she keeps control and them obsessed over her.
@@Anikathewolf It’s easy. All you have to do is type Reforming Chrysalis, Reforming Cozy Glow and Reforming Tirek in that order and you’ll find them. And check out the comments I made for each of them and let me know what you think.
How you know it's dawnrise Did you forget midnight sparkle? Not only the human world also equestria Sci-twi and Twilight are the SAME person(sorry I REALLY don't know how to explain mlp things)
Are you kidding? A cadence that can make ponies fall in love? She would easily conquer the whole of equestria, they would give her the crown. All shall Love ME and despair!
Only the main characters or side characters get an evil counterpart. Tho I'm going to make one for Mr and Mrs. Cake now. ( Sombra mind control doesn't count.)
4:20 and the best thing about it is that some people thought about the same thing like 10 years ago - the fan animation "The Fall of the Crystal Empire" shows how she got infected and yeah that's mindblowing
Theory story of queen chrysalis: (can’t decide on name) was a third princess, bringing the stars into view for foals to count before bed. She wasn’t related to the royal sisters, but only them knew. One day, she found out her family was a group of rock farmers (yes she is related to Pinkie Pie) that were dull colored and boring but past chrysalis wasn’t because of a spell that made her think she actually looked like she would be royalty. The jealous alicorn (she was enchanted to have unicorn and Pegasus magic by the sisters) turned into queen chrysalis and left canterlot. She then realized the amount of power she had, being able to transform and feed off of love. She built a hive and started the changeling species using pure magic to make it so she could create more, and when she found out about the royal wedding, she made a plan to replace princess Cadence and after success she started working on a plan to imprison the sisters and control the sun, moon, as well as the stars
I kinda like how the normal and evil versions are opposites ☀️ celestia-daybreaker 🌙 Luna-nightmare moon ❤️ Cadence-heartbreaker ✨ Twilight-midnight sparkle
these are nice to see. I didn't even know about the drama with Sawtooth until I saw the comments on one of these videos. It's really nostalgic to see them again. I miss getting to watch these mlp theory videos.
In my view, the "nightmare force" is not a parasite... it is not even conscious. Think, the nightmare force in Luna didn't do bad things because that made her strong, she did bad things based on Luna's wish before transforming: To be adored...to be important. So much so that when she appears in episodes 1 and 2 of the first season, her first reaction is to be frustrated at being forgotten... just as Luna felt frustrated at not being seen... not being adored. The strength of the nightmare is just a representation of the being's subconscious. When you hold on to bad feelings, eventually they come back worse...but they are not aware...it is just you...without all the other feelings. Imagine the following situation: Take away Luna's empathy, love, gratitude, sadness and joy and leave only the following emotions: Anger, envy and resentment. It's exactly how the nightmare moon behaves
i feel like Cadence's evil side would be Inactivity I would say. "Cadence" literally means a rythmic end of a song or set of words An antonym of Cadence is Inactivity, so it would work.
im now thinking about something that wasnt thought of in this video if the nightmare force dates way back and corrupted stigian, how was it able to possess other characters such as luna if the nightmare force was stuck in limbo with the pillars ? luna turned into nightmare moon and sombra was sombra while it was in limbo with the pillars so that doesnt make sense
Was gonna talk about how Cadance's superior form? would have had something to do with love but it seems like everyone else took care of that. BTW, great names, Anika and Azura. Super creative.🤩
2:23 I think somewhere i saw someone say the princesses can become different evil forms of themselves depending on what emotion consumes them,allow me to elaborate: When luna was overcome by JEALOUSY she became nightmare moon,but the theory goes that the same applies to felestia who could become nightmare star. And that daybreaker is Celestia who was overcome by power and malomania, and the same applies to luna who could become moonbreaker
In my school vr game the nightmare parasites are bioweapons made by the vok and most memorable use of the nightmare force is the Maraudar he's absolute powerhouse that in a recent battle he took on the infernal demons gorrormorrh and the madam butterfly both from series called bayonetta and the fight ended with a neck snapped madam butterfly and a broken jaw gorrormorrh
Now I kinda want a backstory on the pony that the shadow pony took the form of. The first ever victim of this parasite? Maybe even the creator of the parasite, an experiment gone wrong? (Like and infection AU but it’s a parasite instead of an infection)
i think everyone saying that cadance evil form would be called "heart breaker" forgets that every evil form has a different name, using the same word for both daybreaker and cadance evil form "heart breaker" wouldn't fit. My take is to just call her "heart crusher" or "love crusher". That way she gets a different name with the same idea.
Theory: All of the alicorns are capable of taking on the nightmare form but they never let it crack, except for Luna. Now you may be asking about the others like sombra I think it’s a different story
I know, I'm late with this comment, but on your video about "Stallicorns" (Male alicorns), Sombra could have been the first male alicorn before the "parasite"
Ok, so the thing with the stages could be a very good aspect. The thing is: when Luna fought against King Sombra, it was shown that with her amount of rage, her appearance also started to change. She first started to change her eyes, then her color, and then she became a kind of mix between Princess Luna and Nightmare Moon. So if the theory with how Luna became Nightmare Moon is indeed the correct way of how it was, it would align perfectly with this theory ❤
Did you reupload all of his theories? Or are some missing? If yes then we need someone to recover lost mlp theories. And what happens if he or someone else takes down your channel/videos? Do you have another backup incase the videos get deleted?
I reuploaded every video from their main channel to my knowledge, but there were some on the meme channel that I could not find. Every one of my Sawtooth Waves re-uploads contains archive links in the descriptions, pony archive was the source I got most of the videos from.
They didn't even mention Nightmare Rarity?????????? like... shadow pony is possible sombra? a bit of a stretch..... but nightmare rarity actually happened in the mlp universe not in the show but sawtooth bases a lot of his theories with book lore so nightmare rarity should have at least been mentioned
Maybe they might be different one for each one I got earth bunnies, the icons and the sky I don’t know what those sky ones names so that’s the name in sky one for me. They’re all different the same person, but it takes different stages for different of the pony
If figured it out the pony of shadows gave it to sambra and he gave it to luna and luna gave it to celestia gave cadance her alicorn magic cadance has one and because cadance is twilghts sister in law cadance gave it to twilght and when fleryheart was born twilght gave it to fleryheart because twilght is her unt
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I feel like an evil Cadence would be obsessive and controlling. That could’ve been a really cool storyline to explore later on in the series; when love/friendship takes a bad turn.
and she breaks hearts to make people depserate for attention and love...so They look up to her...and that's not she keeps control and them obsessed over her.
Or maybe a yandere
Evil Cadance would definitely be Heartbreaker 😄
I never thought about that. This video helped me out.
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 😄
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 ok, I’ll check them out if I can find them
@@Anikathewolf It’s easy. All you have to do is type Reforming Chrysalis, Reforming Cozy Glow and Reforming Tirek in that order and you’ll find them. And check out the comments I made for each of them and let me know what you think.
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 ok 👍
Luna🌙- Nightmare Moon🦇🌃
Celestia☀️- Daybreaker🐦🔥🌇
Cadence🩵- Heartkiller💔💠
Twilight✨- Dawnrise🔮🌅
How you know it's dawnrise
Did you forget midnight sparkle? Not only the human world also equestria Sci-twi and Twilight are the SAME person(sorry I REALLY don't know how to explain mlp things)
Wdym its not dawnrise its midnightsparkle
@@violet_skys123 same
@@violet_skys123 You explained it perfectly. An evil version of Twilight is most comfirmed Midnight Sparkle.
Dawnrise? Twilight's evil name is Midnight Sparkle
Thought these were gone forever. Thnx for uploading them.
Fr I thought they were gone as well
Ok so I taken a break dose/can eny one explain please in a short as possible way
same was watching since 2015 I thought my entire childhood was gone into the sun daybreakers sun
@@Galaxy_gacha_life turned out he was a pedo
@@Galaxy_gacha_life he's a groomer
Are you kidding? A cadence that can make ponies fall in love? She would easily conquer the whole of equestria, they would give her the crown. All shall Love ME and despair!
Help why does this sound like Junko Enoshima
@@amia.springdanganronpa fan detected!
@@m1kuyayy yep XD
Cadence is the only grown alicorn pony that doesn't have a evil counter part.
Because it wouldn't kid friendly if she did
Nightmare Cadence would be a dominatrix
@@ethangraff8036 Bro 😭
@@Pawning
Well, it's the only thing I can think of that even comes close to being a corrupted version of romantic love
Just saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Only the main characters or side characters get an evil counterpart. Tho I'm going to make one for Mr and Mrs. Cake now.
( Sombra mind control doesn't count.)
@@ethangraff8036Maybe Evil Princess Cadence can use manipulation (The exercise of harmful influence on others ).
Thanks for uploading these videos. I thought my childhood was gone forever 💔
Same bro same
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1:18 that sneeze was so cute
These archives are so great, I just heard about sawtooth waves disappearing and these videos I haven’t even seen before. Thx so much!
4:20 and the best thing about it is that some people thought about the same thing like 10 years ago - the fan animation "The Fall of the Crystal Empire" shows how she got infected and yeah that's mindblowing
Theory story of queen chrysalis: (can’t decide on name) was a third princess, bringing the stars into view for foals to count before bed. She wasn’t related to the royal sisters, but only them knew. One day, she found out her family was a group of rock farmers (yes she is related to Pinkie Pie) that were dull colored and boring but past chrysalis wasn’t because of a spell that made her think she actually looked like she would be royalty. The jealous alicorn (she was enchanted to have unicorn and Pegasus magic by the sisters) turned into queen chrysalis and left canterlot. She then realized the amount of power she had, being able to transform and feed off of love. She built a hive and started the changeling species using pure magic to make it so she could create more, and when she found out about the royal wedding, she made a plan to replace princess Cadence and after success she started working on a plan to imprison the sisters and control the sun, moon, as well as the stars
never thought she was related to pinkie
@@gracef-h5s it’s a theory
A GAME THEORY
You just 😭@@DefNotEnder
Luna said that she created the tantabus to punish her self for the evil she did as nightmare moon.
indeed
İndeed 🦄🦄🦄🖤🖤🖤🖤🌒🌒🌒🌑🌑🌑🌑
True but that doesn't help
I kinda like how the normal and evil versions are opposites
☀️ celestia-daybreaker
🌙 Luna-nightmare moon
❤️ Cadence-heartbreaker
✨ Twilight-midnight sparkle
Celestia-Daybreaker
Luna-Nightmare moon
Cadence-heartbreaker
Twilight-Friendship breaker
Wait… are the raging she-demons the human world nightmare force?
Midnight Sparkle?
Twlight-midnight sparkle
i think twillight would be "betrayer"
@@wafflefriezz360MIDNIGHT SPARKLE
these are nice to see. I didn't even know about the drama with Sawtooth until I saw the comments on one of these videos. It's really nostalgic to see them again. I miss getting to watch these mlp theory videos.
Twilight turns into midnight sparkle
Thank you 🥺 for adding this i was wondering if i would ever see these again thank you 🥺
Thank you so much!
Sawtooth Waves' final video
False. Their actual final video was "Sprout's Untold Story 🌱".
@@AngelofSpeed Oh my bad
@@AngelofSpeed Thank you for making this comment, I forgot to upload that last video. I have it uploaded now: ua-cam.com/video/C1_NRxPw-xc/v-deo.html
Sawtooth: *sneezes and floats off into space*
Meanwhile, Nameless: *searching for daybreaker's timeline* Aha! ... *Brings back Sawtooth*
ST: :p
If you're talking about the parasite that turned Luna into nightmare moon. Which is also the same parasite who turned rarity into nightmare rarity
Nightmare Cadence (I think I'll call her Heartbreaker), would definitely be a dominatrix
YA
YA
NA
Yes 🦄🦄🦄💔💔💔
In my view, the "nightmare force" is not a parasite... it is not even conscious.
Think, the nightmare force in Luna didn't do bad things because that made her strong, she did bad things based on Luna's wish before transforming:
To be adored...to be important.
So much so that when she appears in episodes 1 and 2 of the first season, her first reaction is to be frustrated at being forgotten... just as Luna felt frustrated at not being seen... not being adored.
The strength of the nightmare is just a representation of the being's subconscious.
When you hold on to bad feelings, eventually they come back worse...but they are not aware...it is just you...without all the other feelings.
Imagine the following situation:
Take away Luna's empathy, love, gratitude, sadness and joy and leave only the following emotions:
Anger, envy and resentment.
It's exactly how the nightmare moon behaves
Tysm for reuploading this!
Evil Cadance? Now that sounds awfully familiar! *This Day Aria intensifies*
Story Of SawTooth:
He was a minion of crisalis then he just went off and discuise to blend with the ponies.
We never talked about nightmare cadence.
OMG TYSM FOR UPLOADING THESE I THOUGHT THESE WORE EVEN NOT EVEN THERE😊
Thank you for uploading this
i feel like Cadence's evil side would be Inactivity I would say. "Cadence" literally means a rythmic end of a song or set of words
An antonym of Cadence is Inactivity, so it would work.
Thank u I’ve been dealing these hard stuff in UA-cam but it’s slowly getting better
0:57 nightmare rarity :"am i a joke to you?"
FINALLY THE TANTABUS IS GETTING ATTENTION!!!!!
Kind of
im now thinking about something that wasnt thought of in this video
if the nightmare force dates way back and corrupted stigian, how was it able to possess other characters such as luna if the nightmare force was stuck in limbo with the pillars ?
luna turned into nightmare moon and sombra was sombra while it was in limbo with the pillars
so that doesnt make sense
yeah, how can a number of people have parasitic worms at the same time? it doesn't make any sence
“Nightmare sawtooth” that aged poorly 7:47
Yeah 😅
love the fact that he just floats away
Cadance: Lovebreak Twilght besides Midnight sparkle: Friendbetrayer
Was gonna talk about how Cadance's superior form? would have had something to do with love but it seems like everyone else took care of that. BTW, great names, Anika and Azura. Super creative.🤩
2:23 I think somewhere i saw someone say the princesses can become different evil forms of themselves depending on what emotion consumes them,allow me to elaborate:
When luna was overcome by JEALOUSY she became nightmare moon,but the theory goes that the same applies to felestia who could become nightmare star.
And that daybreaker is Celestia who was overcome by power and malomania, and the same applies to luna who could become moonbreaker
AWARD OF THE YEAR GOES TO THIS PERSON
awesome video I would love to experience these life style
Heartbreaker is a nice name for nightmare cadence. I bet it will be wonderful as her villain.❤❤❤❤😊😊😊
In my school vr game the nightmare parasites are bioweapons made by the vok and most memorable use of the nightmare force is the Maraudar he's absolute powerhouse that in a recent battle he took on the infernal demons gorrormorrh and the madam butterfly both from series called bayonetta and the fight ended with a neck snapped madam butterfly and a broken jaw gorrormorrh
Sweet ^^
YOU ARE A CHANGELING 7:34
1:20 he just floats away 🤣
He said weeeeeeee
I love how Sawtooth kept floating away in the spacey place
The nexsis?
They were all possessed by the same dark magic, but in different ways
Our chords can't pass away seek about Celestia. She has a past away for over a 1000 years.
3:08 a day that never came……I miss him :(
I noticed that Cadance was only mentioned once.
I love the scrunched up nose expression it’s cute 7:54
Now I kinda want a backstory on the pony that the shadow pony took the form of. The first ever victim of this parasite? Maybe even the creator of the parasite, an experiment gone wrong? (Like and infection AU but it’s a parasite instead of an infection)
What abt nightmare rarity???
I wonder if twilight ever cracked in some universe
Cadence is my second favourite princess so I'd love to see an evil version of her
i think everyone saying that cadance evil form would be called "heart breaker" forgets that every evil form has a different name, using the same word for both daybreaker and cadance evil form "heart breaker" wouldn't fit. My take is to just call her "heart crusher" or "love crusher". That way she gets a different name with the same idea.
Oh sh*t, it's Divorce Horse!
Something they didn't cover but would help with the argument is Nightmare Rarity from the comics, as you could consider it canon or an alternate world
Cozy glow with all that magic from the bell changed that could mean something big
Theory: All of the alicorns are capable of taking on the nightmare form but they never let it crack, except for Luna. Now you may be asking about the others like sombra I think it’s a different story
so if there luna calestia and prob cadance and twilight to from equatria girls what about flurry heart?
Wait why i always though Chrysalis was Cadence evil form?
Nightmare moon is a pony that wanted to vanish celestia and rule equestria
I know, I'm late with this comment, but on your video about "Stallicorns" (Male alicorns), Sombra could have been the first male alicorn before the "parasite"
What about Starlight when Sunburst left she felt angry and hurt but the parasite didnt affect her
Celestia -Daybreaker Luna -Nightmare Moon Cadance -Nightmare Cadance Twilight -Midnight Sparkle 😢
0:05 the art is amazing. But think Evil Cadance will be not Powerful like Daybreaker and Nightmare moon
3:06 3:46 5:11 6:34 7:34
Canonically, with the help of the books,
Celestia- Daybreaker
Luna- Nightmare moon
Cadance- Shatter Pitch
Twinkle sprinkle- Solitary star
Wasn’t there was a comic where there was a universe where both sister were evil and rule and wanted to conquer the other universes?
5:15 but aren’t they immortal is what I’m thinking bc Luna has been alive Han more than 1000 years
7:12 what’s that face
7:11 lol
Ok, so the thing with the stages could be a very good aspect. The thing is: when Luna fought against King Sombra, it was shown that with her amount of rage, her appearance also started to change. She first started to change her eyes, then her color, and then she became a kind of mix between Princess Luna and Nightmare Moon. So if the theory with how Luna became Nightmare Moon is indeed the correct way of how it was, it would align perfectly with this theory ❤
If the creators of my little pony run out of ideas they can do cadence with an EVIL form
0:49 wow the floor is looking real nice
Bring this guy back 😭 I miss him
They use they/them pronouns.
I think evil twilight would be the end in friend
He is making this so hard to watch😭😭
stages? parasites? guys someone make a mlp infection au about this
1:07 we got to see one of the Alcorn Patriot
Did you reupload all of his theories? Or are some missing? If yes then we need someone to recover lost mlp theories.
And what happens if he or someone else takes down your channel/videos? Do you have another backup incase the videos get deleted?
I reuploaded every video from their main channel to my knowledge, but there were some on the meme channel that I could not find. Every one of my Sawtooth Waves re-uploads contains archive links in the descriptions, pony archive was the source I got most of the videos from.
Celestia. The Daybreaker.
Luna. The Nightmare Moon
Cadence. The Heartbreaker.
Twilight. The Nemesis.
Flurryheart. The Fallen Light.
All the evil princesses
Luna: Nightmare moon
Celestia: Daybreaker
Cadence: Heartbreaker
Twilight: Friendship Annihilator/ Midnight Sparkle
Thank you sm for uploading this! Anyone know what happened to sawtooth waves? I was gone from brony videos for a bit and suddenly he's gone?
Sawtooth was outed as a groomer sadly so they fled because the evidence was so strong, aka sawtooth is a groomer
@@J3lly601 Thank you! I swear if I could have a nickel for every youtuber that turns out to be a groomer, I'd have a lot of nickels
@@cranberry420 Lol of course! :)
@@cranberry420like more money then the population of the world
We’d all have a lot of money for every UA-camr being outed for some reason.
Can you make a video on how nightmare moon would exist in the human world.
does chrysalis have a same parasite
bro clutched up big time
2:29 who is this other Alicorn dude??????????
What is a nightmare sawtooth.
Omg I am one of your BIGGEST FANS!!!
If flurryheart got infected for the nightmare force she would def be called flurrybreaker (im bad at names i swear)
Maybe Flurriemoon
Bloody heart sounds more like it.
They didn't even mention Nightmare Rarity?????????? like... shadow pony is possible sombra? a bit of a stretch..... but nightmare rarity actually happened in the mlp universe not in the show but sawtooth bases a lot of his theories with book lore so nightmare rarity should have at least been mentioned
Maybe they might be different one for each one I got earth bunnies, the icons and the sky I don’t know what those sky ones names so that’s the name in sky one for me. They’re all different the same person, but it takes different stages for different of the pony
8:09 my favorite part 😂😂
Nightmare Cadence be like Divorce Horse
Maybe nightmare sawtooth has an actual saw tooth?
This is a whole can of worms
If figured it out the pony of shadows gave it to sambra and he gave it to luna and luna gave it to celestia gave cadance her alicorn magic cadance has one and because cadance is twilghts sister in law cadance gave it to twilght and when fleryheart was born twilght gave it to fleryheart because twilght is her unt
3:00 *gasp!* Parthus?
I miss Sawtooth, its sad with what he had to go though