Why Celestia Turned Evil [DAYBREAKER] (MLP Analysis) - Sawtooth Waves
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2023
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One small detail would have made all the difference..
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I feel daybreaker is less jealousy and more pride. She was absolutely full of herself, even going as far as mocking nightmare moon’s tragic corruption as “we get it, you’re sad”. It seems what led her to break was indeed her not getting those personal connections, but what would really tick her off are things that would make her loose her composure and image, like an impulse outburst. It could be Luna not looking up to celestia or downplaying her duties. A more dramatic version of what happened in the episode. Luna spending all night to watch over dreams while sleeping at night while celestia has to do the hard royal work during the day. Their scheduling preventing each other from seeing how difficult each other’s lives are. And with no starlight glimmer or twilight to help, the anger of celestia boils inside her mind until she… snaps , engulfed in broken pride and burning hot anger, celestia confronts Luna and becomes daybreaker, seeing it as one up on her sister and those that didn’t pride in herself too much
I have a hint that since Starlight manages to use time travel and alter dimensions at such she could have ended up somewhere Where Celestia snaped and turned into Daybreaker to face Nightmare Moon/Luna without the use of the elements in the first place
that could've even been the last timeline before they let the rainboom happen
"If Luna can turn into Nightmare Moon, you can absolutely turn into me...Daymare Sun. The better prettier, and more powerful version of you
No it’s this “If Luna can turn into nightmare moon you can absolutely turn into me Daybreaker. The better,prettier and more powerful version of you,”
Or Solar Flare
I never did like Day Breaker as her Name.
Or Brightday Alicorn
I vehemently disagree with this idea of Daybreaker being a pure fabrication of Starlight Glimmer’s imagination, on the grounds that, when she goes to fight her, Celesta outright says “You will never be real again,” which strongly implies that at one point Daybreaker *was* real.
Exacli
😅Exacly
i think "never exist again" means in dreams too
There's also the factor that Luna refers to her as Daybreaker despite having not heard her name once.
Daybreaker said her name before Luna was even pulled into the dream, so how did Luna know her name then? She's had to have heard it or known about it prior.
We saw in the crystal empire episode (season 3) that Celestia knows dark magic, and even teaches it to Twilight. I think it's fair to say that the royal sisters' past is more complicated than most modern ponies know.
Daybreaker is when celestia lets her power and how strong she is get
to her head basically pride and greed for daybreaker and nightmoon is from lunas jealsouy and envy
Oh
So I think could cause celestia to go rouge would be anxiety because she was introduced to big crowds of people while Luna had more time to warm up to being social if this were the case I would relate to celestia a lot more think about it she already has a bunch of important responsibility’s to keep pretty much everyone alive and well like rising and lowering the sun at the time she also has to teach others based of talent so she may have thoughts that she is being unfair by judging who can become royalty based off of ability they had when they were young everyone needs to specifically know about her and she could be the cause of other’s anxiety like in that one song twilight sparkle sings she is smart and talented but still fears celestia everyone chose her and Luna she did not chose herself she did not have the idea she may have been pushed into it and watches others become alicorns choosing to put in the effort for something they know is real and they can be given advice if they choose to do so celestia watches as they CHOOSE to become what she was forced to and everyone knew she would gain responsibility from giving her and Luna great power but did not know what it could do to her
Great now I’m invested in celestia’s
Anxiety something that is not even cannon
Spare me ur sentimental speech
I miss his videos. I want him to return 😢
Me too....😔
You do know why he left youtube, do you?
@@launacyko4523 hiiii im here to explain myself i miss their VIDEOS not them in general sorry for the misconseption or not specifiying it
@Herb Spec They dated 15 yo when he was 19.
@Herb Spec Changed.
I used "he" there becouse I didn't know.
This is actually the first mlp video I watched not just from Sawtooth, EVER.
I noticed that Daybreaker had a YELLOW SPLOCH on her cutie mark! Just like... LUNAAAAA!!!!
OMG I DIDNT REALIZE THAT!
Too bad she only appeared once. She'd be a great villain for Twilight and Discord to fight.
Luna = A therapist who tells you that you don’t need to pay.
THE BACKROUND SOUNDS IN THE BEGINNING IS FROM A GAME CALLED ASTRO PARTY
It’s kinda odd but it’s an inverse to the both of them and kinda showed that yes celestia did in fact needed that break
If nightmare moon wanted love then daybreaker seemed to just want to watch the world burn, it makes sense given literally celestia not liking tea caused an uproar, she kinda lives a Superman ish life of stepping on eggshells unlike Luna who’s free in the dream world a bit.
true and Daybreaker she looks much more evil in my opinion too
If Luna can turn into Nightmare Moon, you can absolutely turn into me daybreaker!
I think the dream-walking mogo manifested itself in that black splotch on Lunas cutemark
0:00 What about *Light* Mare Noon? Since she's the opposite of night (Light).
Yeah, I always thought that too. I approve
Or Solar Flare
If luna got praised more than celestia than celestia will transform into daybreaker.
It's simple sun rays are making her evil 😔
When this video and sawtooth was still around, I posted a comment similar to this:
Them: Daybreaker
Sawtooth: Nightmare noon
Me: Nightmare day (*if I remember right*)
It’s not exactly like it but similar
I think what started this whole chaos maybe the sisters were probably born with the evil versions daybreaker was made in the first ashes of hell and nightmare moon was made of only darkness
I’d like to call her Scorcher Sun 🌞🔥
That's a good one.
Just like Solar Flare
@@KyleEvra good one 😮 I like Nova Blast
0:03 got me laughing 😂😂
Thanks for the upload. You are doing the fire of friendship a real favor.
I was thinking,from a royal problem, what if the ponies liked it the other way around better and celestia was jealous of Luna because now the ponies think she the better sister.So that caused (nightmare noon)daybreaker to form,or Celestia starts getting less and less sleep so she get cranky at Luna and turns into daybreaker!
This is a tiny theory I have I think celestia got jealous because Luna started to help pony's face their fears plus she can walk in dreams all she did was make pony's happy but she can't dream walk or help pony's face their fears so she became...DAYBREAKER!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting analysis. It's feasible that Luna didn't take care of dreams before or perhaps even found it to be a too demanding job with little recognition, and she didn't have enough maturity to carry it out.
I agree that if Luna hadn't turned into Nightmare Moon, Celestia would have turned into Daybreaker, but not out of jealousy but out of arrogance. In the episode 'The Royal Problem,' it can be seen that Daybreaker is very arrogant, and my theory is that originally Celestia was too.
All the adoration she received from the ponies got to her head and blinded her. That's why she didn't realize that Luna had problems, and if Luna hadn't been corrupted before, Celestia would have been. And after banishing Luna, all that adoration became a reminder of her biggest mistake, helping her mature and reducing a significant portion of her arrogance.
Daybreaker Azevedo Vilela e uma princesa alicornio do mal que nunca apareceu na serie A Amizade e Magica nos anos 70 e 80 nao, ela ja apateceu em outros canais como esse ai por exemplo e outros assim por diante , sabem , essa e realmente uma personagem muito dificil de aparecer.
For Candince Heartbreaker
Ok, so think about this (i just watched a vi6 on why princess lunas dark spot is on her flank) take a close look at daybreakers Flank, there is a dark spot on her flank. So what if just like luna, something maybe, not what luna did. But what if she had succumbed to darkness of her own fear and hatred which is exactly why luna changed, but thats just my theroy. Hatered and fear of what you may ask: Herself. Why? Well we all know she holds a heck of a lot of power even without the elements of harmony, she could be scared of what she could do if her magic got out of hoof. So daybreaker served as a second of celestia. Think about it pls
Yeah I love his videos
Scp-001 when day breaks
I think prices celestial turned into daybreak because she got cursed by the puppetmaster
What is celestial
But in that episode celestia said no I will never turn into you even if me and luna did fight i knew I needed her
Did he delete his account?
She will return the opposite of night mare is daydream soon
If luna cowld control dreams celestia cowld have been mad he dosent have the power and mitgh have breaken the princes thrown
I think the reason she gone rogue it's because she got stressed out she constantly has to help Twilight and the other ponies
Ah Brony daybreaker appears in Twilight's fear
I don't really get the existence of that episode outside of fanservice.
1 sentence, beacuse starlight switched their cutie marks and lunas black spot too, nightmare moon is prob tge black dot remained on luna so when it switched, it made daybreaker probably- idk tho
yes
Luna coca cola is the kakari thousands of stars and it makes celestia jealous
halfway through the vid, you basically said that luna is everyone's therapist only available throigh sleep
I like to call her night
Maer morning
I think Luna does not on to Danish in the moon
Celestia is disgusted.
I think she wants to protect her kingdom from nightmare moon
I think the reason why she did it is bc got happy
Hear me out
DAY
DREAM
NOOON
1:53 It makes sense if someone is howling at the moon and sleeping in the middle of a summer afternoon
my biggest though is When they defeat discord when Luna is not nightmare moon yet We see that Luna's hair was moving But how did it stop moving?When The mane six defeat nightmare moon and Celestia Tp there Luna's hair stop moving and she became young how Did that happened Pls make a vid of this
Luna is disgusted by this.
Guys look at the channel it's not sawtooth it's not the original creator
Why do the best creators always end up the weirdest..
Wdym?
@@NinaMoens this creator was exposed for grooming a minor
@@anonymousina9210 Ahhh thanks
The basic story of what happened goes as follows (yes, you'll have to read a bit but this is a condensed version of the mountains of text they gave):
A 15-year-old fan (a name I've seen is Ash) was a big fan of Sawtooth and made art and videos for him. He eventually saw them and thanked her for the art. They became friends, talking about MLP theories. He has done this with many fans and even featured some in collabs on his episodes. Eventually she confesses that she has a crush on Sawtooth (whom had just turned 19), making him feel awkward about their relationship and initially denying her feelings back. Some weeks later, the conversation came back again he came back with a "maybe if you were older" type comment which gave her hope in that they could be a couple when she was older but for now would just be friends.
Over the next year or so, they would become much closer, talking more openly about things like mental health, family situations, et cetera. They were essentially online bf and gf but didn't do too much apart from roleplay and virtual hugs and kisses. Typical teenager stuff. Then her mother comes in, and she is quite abusive to Ash and threatens Sawtooth to stop talking to her. This is when both parties realised how serious this relationship could be. They didn't want to give up being friends but were willing to put themselves at distance. They would go weeks or even months without talking because of her mother's rules, but they did occasionally mail to each other (as they had done prior while sending fanart to each other). During these separations, she became even more obsessive than she was to the point that she started ignoring her studies and failing in school. On the few times they did reconvene, Sawtooth warned her to not ignore school but she ignored his warnings.
By about 2019, they were barely in any contact. Her mother placed a final strict separation between them, though Ash would still text Sawtooth, even though he refused to text back because of her mother's boundaries. A point that was brought up earlier was that when she turns 18, she can make her own decisions and wouldn't have to listen to her mother anymore. When she did turn 18, Sawtooth would start returning her texts and they would officially become a couple. At this point, they began exploring a mild sexual relationship (no one was forced or pressured to do anything), but this wouldn't last too long. The relationship was immediately toxic and ended barely 6 months (I believe) after it started. Sawtooth was the one to break it off.
They apparently had a momentary FWB deal but there really is no detail as to how all of that went but they were both adults at this time so it generally isn't our business but it was clear their relationship had grown sour. Then by 2022, Ash told Sawtooth that she was gonna expose him for their relationship and Sawtooth knew that if she did, he would never be trusted again because he knows how the internet is gonna take stuff like this. She got him to beg that she not come forward because it would mean the end of his channel. He would eventually accept this and stopped making videos for a while. By February, both made posts around the same time detailing their sides and Sawtooth privated his channel. She blames him for being 19 and fraternising with a 15 year-old at the time and for being the reason she did bad in school and can't go to college.
I'm not even framing it, that is literally what her trauma was; that she did bad and school and blames it on him. It's obvious to me at least that this was a masterclass of a nothing burger that honestly has nothing to do with us so there was no reason they should have actively destroyed his career, but we all know how the internet is. No one can make a mistake without being caught and cancelled for it, no matter how many years have passed or how small the mistake was.
@@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449that's... Surprisingly not that evil, it was a mistake but... At least he waited? And didn't force her?
Miss videos
Yes
Maybe the reason why the dream world basically doesn't exist. In that timeline it's because luna gets a tough power
Bruh I feel like I'm the only one who knows what happened to him
Moonlight nightmare
What happened to him?
He groomed a 15 year old fan and so he privated all his videos
Oh ok
@@jaelynnelson3455oh no-
What about triva
Banana.
I thought Celestia turn bad bc she doesn't need luna, she also say
"you don't need luna."
And also
"I shouldn't have to banished you to the moon, I should just destroy you!"
So I guess that after Luna turn to night mare moon she just realised she doesn't need luna or any pony
So she just want to rule equestria to her self and also she said "all you have to do is get rid everypony who stand in your way!''
And she already know Luna Wil comeback after banished to the moon so she better destroy Luna and rule equestria by herself?
I don't mean to offend or anything, this is just what I'm thinking :)
to me it is that motive you said with too the excessive and very twisted sick greed with pride
I think it's celestias fault why luna became evil bcuz she's always getting the spotlight I don't know if I'm right or something 😢
Today breaker you know there and that I think that just might of affected Princess celestia and she turned into Debabrata princess Luna try to stop and cheap banished to in the sun on the elements of harmony wow that's Tumhen Kuchh karna uske sath painting princess Luna and princess celestia and into Britain from at and that Luna created don't know how I think I think that and escaped into a question and it and human version and Twilight sparkle into midnight sparkle and my name is gullu
What happend
Are you confused about what happened to Sawtooth
😢😢 If so He has privated all of his videos if you want to know why go to his community tab it tells you why but in short he inappropriately talked with a minor
But check the community tab explains better than I can
He dated a 15 year old
The basic story of what happened goes as follows (yes, you'll have to read a bit but this is a condensed version of the mountains of text they gave):
A 15-year-old fan (a name I've seen is Ash) was a big fan of Sawtooth and made art and videos for him. He eventually saw them and thanked her for the art. They became friends, talking about MLP theories. He has done this with many fans and even featured some in collabs on his episodes. Eventually she confesses that she has a crush on Sawtooth (whom had just turned 19), making him feel awkward about their relationship and initially denying her feelings back. Some weeks later, the conversation came back again he came back with a "maybe if you were older" type comment which gave her hope in that they could be a couple when she was older but for now would just be friends.
Over the next year or so, they would become much closer, talking more openly about things like mental health, family situations, et cetera. They were essentially online bf and gf but didn't do too much apart from roleplay and virtual hugs and kisses. Typical teenager stuff. Then her mother comes in, and she is quite abusive to Ash and threatens Sawtooth to stop talking to her. This is when both parties realised how serious this relationship could be. They didn't want to give up being friends but were willing to put themselves at distance. They would go weeks or even months without talking because of her mother's rules, but they did occasionally mail to each other (as they had done prior while sending fanart to each other). During these separations, she became even more obsessive than she was to the point that she started ignoring her studies and failing in school. On the few times they did reconvene, Sawtooth warned her to not ignore school but she ignored his warnings.
By about 2019, they were barely in any contact. Her mother placed a final strict separation between them, though Ash would still text Sawtooth, even though he refused to text back because of her mother's boundaries. A point that was brought up earlier was that when she turns 18, she can make her own decisions and wouldn't have to listen to her mother anymore. When she did turn 18, Sawtooth would start returning her texts and they would officially become a couple. At this point, they began exploring a mild sexual relationship (no one was forced or pressured to do anything), but this wouldn't last too long. The relationship was immediately toxic and ended barely 6 months (I believe) after it started. Sawtooth was the one to break it off.
They apparently had a momentary FWB deal but there really is no detail as to how all of that went but they were both adults at this time so it generally isn't our business but it was clear their relationship had grown sour. Then by 2022, Ash told Sawtooth that she was gonna expose him for their relationship and Sawtooth knew that if she did, he would never be trusted again because he knows how the internet is gonna take stuff like this. She got him to beg that she not come forward because it would mean the end of his channel. He would eventually accept this and stopped making videos for a while. By February, both made posts around the same time detailing their sides and Sawtooth privated his channel. She blames him for being 19 and fraternising with a 15 year-old at the time and for being the reason she did bad in school and can't go to college.
I'm not even framing it, that is literally what her trauma was; that she did bad and school and blames it on him. It's obvious to me at least that this was a masterclass of a nothing burger that honestly has nothing to do with us so there was no reason they should have actively destroyed his career, but we all know how the internet is. No one can make a mistake without being caught and cancelled for it, no matter how many years have passed or how small the mistake was.
She is not.
By
Aaaaaaa
🤔
wait if nightmare moon is luna then why is daybreaker not celestia and if luna can wlk in dreams why is she jealous even though she can talk and interact with them
I watched the ep again, and the first ep too where nightmare moon is, day breaker seems to have pride. And nightmare moon jealousy
I want him to come back 😢😢😢😢😢
He dated a 15 year old.
The basic story of what happened goes as follows (yes, you'll have to read a bit but this is a condensed version of the mountains of text they gave):
A 15-year-old fan (a name I've seen is Ash) was a big fan of Sawtooth and made art and videos for him. He eventually saw them and thanked her for the art. They became friends, talking about MLP theories. He has done this with many fans and even featured some in collabs on his episodes. Eventually she confesses that she has a crush on Sawtooth (whom had just turned 19), making him feel awkward about their relationship and initially denying her feelings back. Some weeks later, the conversation came back again he came back with a "maybe if you were older" type comment which gave her hope in that they could be a couple when she was older but for now would just be friends.
Over the next year or so, they would become much closer, talking more openly about things like mental health, family situations, et cetera. They were essentially online bf and gf but didn't do too much apart from roleplay and virtual hugs and kisses. Typical teenager stuff. Then her mother comes in, and she is quite abusive to Ash and threatens Sawtooth to stop talking to her. This is when both parties realised how serious this relationship could be. They didn't want to give up being friends but were willing to put themselves at distance. They would go weeks or even months without talking because of her mother's rules, but they did occasionally mail to each other (as they had done prior while sending fanart to each other). During these separations, she became even more obsessive than she was to the point that she started ignoring her studies and failing in school. On the few times they did reconvene, Sawtooth warned her to not ignore school but she ignored his warnings.
By about 2019, they were barely in any contact. Her mother placed a final strict separation between them, though Ash would still text Sawtooth, even though he refused to text back because of her mother's boundaries. A point that was brought up earlier was that when she turns 18, she can make her own decisions and wouldn't have to listen to her mother anymore. When she did turn 18, Sawtooth would start returning her texts and they would officially become a couple. At this point, they began exploring a mild sexual relationship (no one was forced or pressured to do anything), but this wouldn't last too long. The relationship was immediately toxic and ended barely 6 months (I believe) after it started. Sawtooth was the one to break it off.
They apparently had a momentary FWB deal but there really is no detail as to how all of that went but they were both adults at this time so it generally isn't our business but it was clear their relationship had grown sour. Then by 2022, Ash told Sawtooth that she was gonna expose him for their relationship and Sawtooth knew that if she did, he would never be trusted again because he knows how the internet is gonna take stuff like this. She got him to beg that she not come forward because it would mean the end of his channel. He would eventually accept this and stopped making videos for a while. By February, both made posts around the same time detailing their sides and Sawtooth privated his channel. She blames him for being 19 and fraternising with a 15 year-old at the time and for being the reason she did bad in school and can't go to college.
I'm not even framing it, that is literally what her trauma was; that she did bad and school and blames it on him. It's obvious to me at least that this was a masterclass of a nothing burger that honestly has nothing to do with us so there was no reason they should have actively destroyed his career, but we all know how the internet is. No one can make a mistake without being caught and cancelled for it, no matter how many years have passed or how small the mistake was.
@@snowmations
Pls fact check. Sawtooth and the victim dated at age 18(victim) and 22(sawtooth). The victim offered to roleplay as bf and gf at age 15(victim) and 19(sawtooth). Sawtooth did not date the victim till 18.
If you want those who don't know the controversy to know about it then pls just provide links to sawtooth and victim's post or just give a link to a vid explaining the controversy like black queen 's video so people who don't know the situation can decide what their opinion is.
Why they Bald😅😂
❤Day Breaker is fake!