Nikocado Avocado Doesn't Want to Be Vegan Anymore
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- My comments and advice for Nikocado Avocado regarding his concerns about veganism from both a health and an ethical standpoint.
0:17 - Why I don't eat a low-salt diet
0:26 - "We're omnivores"
1:47 - "When I was raw...only eat fruit"
2:19 - Ignorant/stupid doctors
4:11 - Iron
5:41 - B12
6:30 - Albumin
7:26 - Creatine & Carnitine
8:56 - "I listened to all those holistic 'doctors'"
9:10 - Chris, another fruit eater bites the dust
13:19 - "You just have to eat enough calories"
13:31 - Whole foods vegan diet & still deficient
14:24 - B12 shots, still deficient
17:30 - Lions need meat; we do not
18:12 - Nik's birds rape everything
18:40 - Excess meat vs plant-based (not vegan)
19:41 - This world will never be victimless
20:28 - Recommended supplements and cost
24:06 - Genes matter
24:52 - Appeal to popularity
25:49 - Gluten free vs vegan
26:53 - Smart people can be really dumb (appeal to nature)
28:33 - What makes a good person?
29:58 - Raw foodists be cray
30:31 - Popular vegans vs most vegans
32:19 - Conclusion (My suggestions)
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References
Nik's video
• I DON'T WANT TO BE VEG...
Dietary Salt Recommendations Don't Line Up with Recent Evidence
• Dietary Salt Recommend...
Academy of Nutriton and Dietetics on vegan diets
www.andjrnl.org/article/S2212-...
Dietitians of Canada on vegan diets
www.dietitians.ca/Your-Health/...
British Dietetic Association on vegan diets
www.bda.uk.com/foodfacts/vege...
Detox and cleanses
sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-...
www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...
Iron status of vegetarians
veganhealth.org/articles/iron#...
Ways to Get B12 Deficiency
veganhealth.org/b12/def
People Who Should Not Take the Cyanocobalamin Form of B12
veganhealth.org/b12/nocyano
Protein
veganhealth.org/articles/protein
Carnitine
www.veganhealth.org/articles/a...
Creatine
veganhealth.org/articles/creatine
Omega-3s
veganhealth.org/articles/omega3
Ginny Messina on whole food diets and ex-vegans
www.theveganrd.com/2015/07/pre...
Small Amounts of Animal Products Do Not Cure B12 Deficiency
veganhealth.org/b12/often
Should I Get My B12 Status Tested?
www.veganhealth.org/b12/tested
Mother Teresa: Hell's Angel
• Video
Eating to protect/"boost" memory
www.eatright.org/resource/heal... www.health.harvard.edu/mind-an...
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shes the most level headed vegan on youtube.....
Also Joseph Lincoln!
Cole Longó which is a logical position...
there are many like her
their are a few others but not many
there are, you just chose not to see them
omggggg when avocado said five cheeseburgers n 20 stacks of bacon is excessive but thats literally him now lololol
Yes, he's been depriving himself for years. His body craves fat. Maybe he'll find out there are healthy ways. I can imagine him being fed up with living "healthy"
@bscrazy007 lol, I wish. Hard to gain weight for me. Especially when breastfeeding
@@LundiForest I think we are reaching the point where he'll find out after his funeral 😬
It's funny watching this video now knowing he does 4000+ calorie McDonald's mukbangs.
Very sad
Not to mention very overweight and obviously a toxic human being
@@CitiesSkyGay Never even expected how toxic the whole situation would turn out…
I'm weak asf🤣🤣🤣 Facts
I think it's sad.
this aged like fine wine
How so?
@@tilasole3252 look at him now
"5 cheeseburgers a day is excessive" oh how times have changed for him. It's sad really.
Am I the only one who wonders how bad/dangerous mukbangs are to your body. Coming from someone who has struggled with binge eating a mukbang seems like a glorified binge.
Ela Chapman Doesn't it depend on how much you eat? Eating SOMETHING in front of a camera while talking is not a binge.
Kai Klaarika have you seen the amount of food he eats??
Kai Klaarika A binge is different for everyone because usually it is to do with an individual's personal pain. That being said he does eat a lot more than I would consider a meal. It is also the way he eats the food and like many people on UA-cam who do mukbangs. When I binge I'm so happy/high i eat without tasting the food and I tend to eat lots in one go. Sometimes him and other youtubers eat like this when doing mukbangs they don't saver or almost enjoy their meal they just eating at immense speed like a lot of binge eaters do (they eat almost exactly the same as I do when I binge) It's also really damaging for your health. No ones stomach can cope with being stretched out in that short space of time and your electrolytes get so fucked up.
I don't know the man but it really worries me the way he seems to do a mukbang everyday and how he eats. If he's doing a mukbang almost everyday there's no way he could be eating three meals a day, he would have to fast some of the day to save room for the mukbang and then he wouldn't be able to eat for hours after. And if he is eating "normally" after a mukbang he must be making himself sick in order to do so otherwise it's physically impossible.
I know this may sound like a reach but I think mukbangs are so dangerous mentally/physically. I also don't understand how people watch them and don't find a problem with them. A mukbang is basically a glorified binge and it's so worrying that people make money putting their health at risk for others entertainment.
Kai Klaarika I also forgot to say that in my opinion even if someone is filming them self binge it's still a binge. I've binged in front of family members before without realising that doesn't mean it wasn't a binge just because I haven't locked myself away in private to do so.
(Also I hope I don't come across hateful or that you think I'm having a go at you I just really hate mukbangs)
Ela Chapman yeah but you can do intermittent fasting to eat a large meal and lots of people prefer eating that way. Doesn't matter how many meals you have each day as long as you're getting right amount of calories and nutrients.
*eats fast food everyday* *blames plants for his problems*
lol also he does a video of him having a mental breakdown and says vegans are crazy
When he was vegan he didn't eat fast food. So yeah... His problems at the time was because of a vegan diet... Are you stupid or...
@@YouWillGetThereBuddy not a vegan diet. what he was eating, which was not a healthy diet at all
@@coolgab21 So eating ZERO animal products is not a vegan diet??? I'm confused...
Add Caption Here you said his issues was because of a vegan diet. I find that misleading, it’s almost grouping all vegan diets in this. If he had eaten a vegan diet correctly - he would have been fine. Technically yes he was eating a vegan diet but it was his diet that was the issue not veganism. I hope that makes sense?
WHAT'S on your t-shirt?? I can't stop visualising a crucified Patrick Star, please end my sorrow
xD
I would also like to know now haha
Omg I thought that too
Same lmao
Maisie Maisie me too!!
little by little you are convincing me to try this vegan thing...
Shanene Larissa
Give it a shot. Even if it's only one meal a day or one day a week.
You've got nothing to lose. Especially if you are looking at it as something to try out. If you like it, keep going. If you don't, then dial it back a bit.
Sometimes, that's a good way to transition.
Shanene Larissa not too late to sign up for Veganuary! Google it lots of helpful resources :)
Shanene Larissa she did that with me. been vegan for nine months :)
Shanene Larissa try it out! even if you're just eating one or two vegan meals a day at first, it gets super easy
Shanene Larissa Swayze helped convince me too, and I've been vegan for a year now. Try it out!
"humans are not primates" - nicocado 2k17
Miss Anthropy 😂😂😂
Miss Anthropy
"I was never Raw Til' 4." -Nick shortly before he changed up his channel format
"I tried Raw Til' 4 for a few months." - Nick in his most recent video.
💤💤💤
+Parmetries he means "freelee's rawtill4" but when he went to thailand he eat raw until dinner but didn't follow her "rules" he explains in his mukbangs very clear
Miss Anthropy
Lol and we are also Apes. I laughed out loud when he said we aren't those things.
He was actually going on about how he thinks we're aliens. I'm done. Unsubbed. L8r m8s.
"Your not an ape or primate"
When your doctor doesnt even know what type of animal you are
Even if the doctor was right about that part, apes and most of bigger primates are onmivores. So fuck that doctor.
But knowing Nick, said doctor was most likely a creation of his mind.
We are human we are not animals
@@MelB868 yes, yes we are.
@@MelB868 that's like saying cats are cats they are not animals. Lol
@@agdalanzarini8974 or they said "you're a primate - an ape..." In other words, you're an omnivore, but he misremembered.
I'd say it's still more likely he made the whole thing up, though.
it's a shame there aren't more vegans like you "Unnatural Vegan". Your response to Nicks video, you did in a classy way.
Julia A she is a health vegan. not hot headed simply because she isn't passionate about saving the the animals
Steven Alcorn then why not just be plant based? I don’t think she’s a health vegan.
Great video Swayze!! great points - Also you mentioned about the nutritionist/dietician title! Yes here in the UK we have "Registered Nutritional Therapists" which distinguishes a "proper" nutritionist with a degree or equivalent (similar training to a dietician) from those who have just taken a silly online course! (this is what I had to study for 4 years to become a registered NT)!! (oh and also Thank you for also promoting a Higher Fat vegan diet!!)
Mylessssss i knew you'd be here! so glad you are a fan of swayze too lol xo
Healthy Crazy Cool love all of your videos
oh god, here we go again with the avocado boy..
Queen Of Gluten your name made my day
He actually makes me laugh. He's a huge spaz.
😂😂
LMFAOOO, you deadass Made me laugh so hard
Bravo for responding to all these points calmly and with science.
Lol science
What scares me is that someone can be fully vegan for so long but doesn't understand the basic philosophical and ethical concepts. This dude's video is exactly why I get worried every time I meet a vegan who's doing it for health reasons. Not because it isn't healthy, but because they don't understand the most important important concepts about suffering and ethics, esp in the modern first world. Loved this video. Hopefully this channel becomes one of the popular vegan channels.
Sarah Boka
It isn't that they don't understand it. It's that they don't agree.
They comprehend why you hold an opinion regarding ethics but just because they understand it doesn't mean that they feel the same way.
MartianBlues That may be the case for some (very few I'd argue), but the arguments that this guy made in his video demonstrated a lack of understanding. Further, there are very few people in general who would simply disagree that animal cruelty is wrong or that needless killing is wrong. Most people freak out when they see a dog being mildly mistreated. The problem is logical inconsistency exacerbated by shitty social norms, not preference or opinion.
Im slowly transitioning to the vegan lifestyle, but solely for health reasons. I couldn't care less if someone wants to eat a hamburger or chicken or deer, etc. I see animals as inferior and if someone wants to hunt deer for a food source, then by all means..
due to my statement, i guess i wont transition to the "vegan lifestyle", but rather, a vegan or plant-based diet
Sara Boka The reason why people freak out seeing a dog mistreated but will eat chicken without a second thought is not a problem of a logical inconsistency but rather that we humans have problems relating to things we do not see ourselves. There is a quite famous thought experiment explaining this;
You are on a high-speed train. In front of the train in the distance on the tracks are 5 people who you will hit and kill if you continue in the same direction. In order to save these people, you'll have to pull a lever that will make the train chance course onto another track. On this track is a person too. Just one though. You've less than 2 seconds to decide, will you pull the lever?
Most people will and they will make this decision fast and without guilt. This is normal. Now consider this;
You are on the side of the tracks, a train is coming with high speed and will hit and kill 5 people. In front of you is a really big person, big enough to stop the train if you'd push this person onto the tracks. Would you give this person a hard shove? Think about it and make a decision.
Well, if you're like most people alive you'd have a lot more trouble making this decision, taking an actual second to make up your mind. This is normal and supposed to be this way. Only people lacking empathy make both decisions with the same speed and ease. Now how is this related to people having no problem with eating meat but can't stand seeing a puppy being murdered? It is the same exact thing. Witnessing a thing and/or participating first-hand makes it personal and therefore people will get upset. With most supermarket meats no one ever sees or has to participate in the slaughtering and cleaning of the animal. This makes it nearly impossible to feel actual empathy towards the animals as individuals. Despite how bad this sounds, this is emotionally healthy human behavior. People who do kill their own meat usually have learned how to compartmentalize and prevent themselves from projecting themselves on the animal. Again, this is also healthy human behaviour.
The fact that we farm and eat chickens but not dogs is completely cultural, however. People with pet chickens will often have no problem eating supermarket chicken. People in general, with or without dogs, will object to eating dogs.
"you saw a Dr that believes in cleanses, nough said" favorite quote.
You sound so sane & refreshingly smart in such a direct comparison to Nick. I think you are the only vegan UA-camr who doesn't speak out of their literal ass.
Cayson Harper also mic the vegan is just like her. Very intelligent and thinks critically :)
Emily Mark Thanks for the recc! I'm all for non-shit-blurting vegans :))
Dr. Greger's channel *Nutritionalfacts* also only follows scientific papers even though I feel like he himself is sometimes clingy. (Maybe it's just me being hypersensitive, his work is great in either way)
Cubed Yes I know his channel! Very informed (even if a little over my head)
Rhian HY does mostly beauty-type videos, but she also covers other topics and sometimes she'll do a nice recipe video. She's vegan, and she seems quite chill and delightful. :-)
Can you do a video explaining a well rounded vegan diet? It feels silly having to ask but with so much misinformation its hard to fully comprehend what that entails.
it's the same as a regular well rounded diet minus animal products. research how much protein, fat and carbs a person of your height/weight should eat and model your diet off that
Check out Pick Up Lime's channel! One of the best on youtube and she is an actual nutritionist.
I live in Japan, so we eat a base of brown rice and legumes (we often put rice and azuki beans in the rice cooker, and we also eat a lot of fermented soy) for carbs and protein. Then the veggies for vitamins, nuts&seeds for omega3, and a b12 supplement (it has been recently discovered that duckweed contains b12, so it may be a good option for those who hate supplements). I've been a vegan since I was a kid, and never thought much about it, but if you're consuming enough calories and getting some variation on the veggies you eat, I believe you should be OK.
Vegan for Life by Jack Norris is a very balanced book.
To my understanding, exploring veganism; cooked food, mock meats, fortified milks, fat and protiens are pals
Does this guy just crave attention? His videos seem to be ridiculous hysterics.
He's truly pathetic.
heh seems so
No hes just sensitive thats all. Hecwears his heart on his sleeve. These kind of people need lots of hugs and 💕
trucker wrecker girl no. He’s a fucking selfish narcissist
i thought there was a water drop or a sneeze spot on my monitor for the entire video...then i tried to wipe it off and realized its just a tiny dent in her wall....god dammit
Just figured that out before reading your comment.
Same.
2+ years down the line and he's now uploading some of the most disgusting fast-food-based mukbangs on this platform... *sigh*
no need to kink shame
Vegans should aspire to be as level headed as you. I'm a fan :)
Watching your videos definitely makes me think of changing some things. I don't think I am ready for going completely vegan (and I'm not sure I want to), but I am definitely wanting to remove a lot of animal products from my diet. Unnatural Vegan, you make it a lot less daunting to embrace this change. Send me good vibes, everyone!
Stefani Ruiz Good for you. Even if you don't go vegan; a reduction in animal products makes a difference. My sister spells her name the way you do. Mi mama es Mexicana. So that explains the spelling.
7:42 - The source should read "carnitine" not creatine. The link is in the description.
4:58 - I meant menstruating, not premenstrual. :)
Unnatural Vegan What's tums? Kinda sorta not American. Kinda sorta living in Japan. Kinda sorta struggling with non dairy milks here because they just don't bother to supplement it at all like wow.
lilpeoplez Dude the strongest painkillers that Japan supplies to people are about 1/6 of the power of paracetamol.
Probably exaggerating a bit, but still.
Also a majority of the supplements I've seen here are "beauty supplements". They do have regular, like just normal, supplements but they're either combined with d3 or give way too few tablets.
So far I've managed by eating Chinese cabbage, broccoli and unhulled sesame seeds. But I'd still prefer that little bit of insurance.
Unnatural Vegan ❤
lilpeoplez Not interested in edamame, I'm afraid it'll bore me to tears. Majority of my protein comes from soybeans anyway (Tofu, soymilk, daizu, okara).
Also nuts are just too crazy expensive. It's actually quite funny when I see vegan UA-camrs be all like "here, I made a pasta bake with cashew cheese" and I sit there like "how are you not super poor? where is this magic money that you summon from in order to purchase these expensive nuts?"
Plus I can't have peanut butter sandwiches anymore since 99% of Japanese bread contains either milk or butter.
+Tay Edamame is AMAZING when you fry it with soy sauce and sesame oil instead of just steaming it and adding salt. I could eat that every day.
I'm iron deficient and have to take supplements because my body doesn't absorb properly and I bleed a lot. Doesn't matter what I eat.
Celeste D me too me tooooooooooooooooooooooo. They make a huge difference don't they lol
Celeste D
Try to cook in a caste iron skillet.
It can help fortify your diet with iron. That coupled with a supplement should help.
Good luck to you 👍🏾
Yup! Same thing for me.
Celeste D Check out this product, it may be able to help you absorb more iron www.luckyironfish.com/
Celeste D you eating vitamin c with iron rich foods?
this video aged like fine wine
im sorry but his video was like watching a musical lmao he HAS to be doing this for views. great vid tho swayze! youre so eloquently spoken 😊
The Blue Wren the video makes me cringe so hard my eyes fall into my head
Giacinta Micallef he is a very emotional person though, it's kinda refreshing.
THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO HIM! His video was a sobbing mess to say the least... Instead of making asinine arguments against veganism, he should pinpoint the nutrients he feels he's missing and adapt his diet. He complains about feeling unhealthy, yet he gorges on processed food....
Your video is very well done and informative his made me cringe forever I don't understand his way of presenting his problem yuck...
The one problem I had with this whole situation and it's hard to explain and he kind of touches on it in his video but like you can't force someone to be vegan. No one was holding a gun to his head saying BE VEGAN. I mean, especially since he's in the public eye, it could be embarrassing to be like nevermind all of a sudden but you made the choice to make yourself a public person. I could care less if this guy is vegan, I'm sure some of his vegan fans are upset or disheartened that he decided to quit but nobody was forcing him to do anything and that's what is frustrating about this.
He is really a nut, I mean that video shows how wacky he is
Mycenaea He doesn't say he has an eating disorder or anything of the sort and he's even eating in the video so I don't know about that.
My Name Is Liz you can eat and still have an eating disorder do your research an eating disorder can affect your relationship with food how you feel when eating not just anorexia where you just dont eat
marisol Del Castillo I've experienced an eating disorder and felt different about it. I shouldn't have projected my experience I suppose but did he even mention anything of that sort in the video? If he did I missed it. That's why I said I don't know if that's true.
nikados level of animation when he talks makes makes me uncomfortable
PS: Mother Theresa was arguably a cruel, cold, two-faced individual. I seriously thought more people knew!
Yeah, she felt she had a calling to take care of the poor, but wasn't very happy about it.
+gisforgary lol
so was Gandhi. Sigh
simpzzi R Yeah - I _really_ don't have any reason to criticise Gandhi... OTOH, this may be of interest to some: www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/25/why-to-many-critics-mother-teresa-is-still-no-saint/?.d2949f7813b5
The self-serving congratulatory tone accompanying the ability to point out the shortcomings of others truly breeds nothing but hate and hopelessness. Perhaps even the ripple effect she started by being recognized as a beacon of hope is enough to deserve acknowledgment, even if it inspired just one person to go out of their way to do a little bit more than usual. To what standard is one to hold themselves, if nowadays even just giving spare change to the homeless without saying a world is commendable, yet taking abandoned babies and the dying off the streets is to be frowned upon?
If that be the case, I would hate to be judged by your standards. Hope everyone here has a great day.
I was hoping you'd make a response to the hot mess of his video.
yea he was really wacky on that video. More so than usual.
I've noticed a few people commenting about that in his other videos too. Just an over all feeling of over-the-top. However, I have seen a video he posted when he was away from Orlin for three months and it was the exact same as this. I felt bad because I was laughing for a while watching it not realising that that is just how he cries. I thought it was a satire..:/
Hayley Croke I totally agree - making any major life change based on moral and ethic can wreak havoc on a person, but I do think he is making too big of a deal out of this without taking the most simple approach. He needs to fix what he is currently eating. Every day he posts videos (sometimes twice a day) of massive meals of nothing but processed, chemically refined foods. Fake cheese, mock-meats, refined grains (pasta) and deep fried fast food. No one could be healthy and happy on a diet like that regardless of being vegan or not. He needs to fix that before blaming his current state on being vegan. He talks about vitamin deficiencies, well no wonder when he only eats the same three things over and over - white pasta, fake cheese, simulated meat. Hopefully Unnatural Vegan can help point him in the right direction :)
Fortified mock meats are actually pretty good for you, in moderation. In Australia we have a brand which is all fortified with B12, Zinc...and I can't recall the other one/two. Of course eating them in them in excess is bad, like Nik did, but I have mock meats once or twice every two to three days with my meals :)
blueboyryan for sure! I enjoy them too once in a while, especially homemade kinds like seitan. But the volume at which he's eating it? Yikes.
I don't get why some people find it so difficult. I haven't used salt in forever, I eat 100% whole food plant based vegan other than the odd bowl of cereal... It's easy as fuck. I genuinely don't get it.
Steve Steven it seems to me that he has fallen into the trap of extremes, and he goes from one to another.
Steve Steven I'm vegan too, but where do you get your iodine from? I eat iodized salt, but recently a pharmacist who works with a PhD pharmacologist told me that iodine is in too low amounts in salt, and the amounts in seaweeds are unpredictable. He told me I should buy his iodine supplement pills, but I don't know if I should believe him, since I know he's trying to sell me stuff. Years ago I would drink a glass of water with a single drop of iodine in it that would drop myself from a bottle of iodine supplement I bought at a health food store.
Moondog half a teaspoon of salt would get you enough iodine, the only problem with seaweed is you might get to much and of course the cyanide in seafood in general, but it takes a lot before that becomes a problem.
The harved study your doctor was talking about mainly concerned americans on SAD who already get to much salt from processed food and instead of saying they should cut back and only get salt from a home cooked meal, suggest getting iodine from seafood and multivitamins.
Celina k I've heard that the salt used in the mass production of food is non-iodized.
Moondog that's true, but the authors didn't seem to think people would cut back enough on that non-iodized salt containing food and adding any salt(even iodized salt) was therefore too much of a risk.
I simply disagree with this point, and think you should be honest to your patients and therefore tell them not to eat any junk food, still adding where else to get iodine from, their patients might just not like salt or insist on not listening to their doctor, which only works if the doctor isn't condescending.
Hi Swayze!
I used to eat a very strict hclf vegan diet. Of course, I lost some weight...BUT I also lost my period for almost a year and was always hungry and unsatisfied after eating a huge meal. Some time ago, I switched to a "normal" or more balanced vegan diet and I feel sooo much better! My digestion is normal again, I (finally!) gained my period back and I'm not always hungry all the time. Your videos played a big part in the change I made, so I like to thank you for that. Keep on doing your thing! You're awesome! Greetings frome Germany. :)
Das Grindylow Guten Nacht!
Morfeus danke! ;)
+Das Grindylow YAY!!!! :DDD
I love that you are vegan and have a Hannibal propic 😂 no hate, I find it genuinely funny
Obviously any diet that makes females of any species loose their menarch is not normal or healthy.
Is it ironic that he now eats 25 cheese burger for UA-cam videos
Too much logic and common sense! Will not absorb into the minds of those who need it most.
It's unbelievable how much sense you make compared to most other vegan you tubers! I learn so much from you, you actually know what your talking about :)
Watching this in 2019 and I think it’s really interesting he says that he doesn’t understand people who eat 5 cheeseburgers a day, and how bad it is. Because he eats more than that in a day now
This is why im like 80% vegan, which really isnt vegan I don't eat meat but I eat trace amounts of animal products in bread etc and will eat cheese only all other dairy is replaced by nut milks. Well aware this isn't probably sufficient but whatever.
Tyler Potts it is amazing that you made a change at all to your diet(:
Tyler Potts don't let the elitist people get you down. your doing fine.
Not everyone goes 100% vegan right away. Most people cut out animal products little by little and every little bit helps. Once people make the change, though, they tend to wish they had done it sooner. That is how I feel.
that sounds great but you are a vegetarian then ;)
The replies to this comments are precisely why Swayze has best vegan youtube community.
This guy doesn't deserve any advice. I think this was a great video. Nik is a drama queen and he loves the attention and the money/views he is getting on the 2 videos he uploaded bashing veganism.
I used to watch all of his videos, but I agree. His latest videos are so disingenuous and over-dramatic. Right after he commented thanking UV for her response.. He goes and uploads a clickbait sobbing cringe fest. Ugh.
He’s a boy.
Watching this 2 years later makes me very sad. I didn’t know he used to be a vegan, seeing where he is now makes me worry for him
I used to watch him back in the time when he was vegan, he seemed so happy and fun back then. I lost interest in his channel when he gave up being vegan, and seeing him now, in 2020, it's really sad.
Well, 4 years later and we now know he really wasn't concerned with his health.
Clearly he wanted fame and money. Based on his brief messages with Freelee before he did this she apparently mentioned some stuff about Trisha Paytas (and she is obviously a popular junkfood binge eater who has controversy too) so it's not surprising this was the outcome, I think that if being a vegan had given him the same level of popularity on youtube he has now then he would have stuck to being a rawfood vegan even if that led to bad health too. I'm pretty sure the only reason he's a morbidly obese muckbanger still now is because of the views it gets him. I can't say if he started out with better intentions but It's definitely clear he wanted the same fame/money other rawfoodists enjoy by the point he made this video.
I can say this for him at least, I don't exactly blame him for buckling with the vegan eating, I've caved a few times because of poor eating habits, when your body is crying out for calories and you limit your choices too much then shitty, unethical food starts to look damn tasty. Eating properly and enough to curb those feelings is vital to keep on the vegan train long term.
What a fantastic video. You are so informative. The vegan movement needs more calm and rational people like you. Thank you!
Mississippi Vegan NOT!!
nick should look up to you as a person who does enough research about their diet to not cry crocodile tears in front of his audience just to trigger people.
You are literally the only Vegan channel I see that makes sense, and uses facts. So sick of fact devoid Vegan channels. Thank you.
I'm unfortunately currently an ex-vegan (I'm vegetarian currently with loose restrictions on dairy and eggs, I know, I'm sorry cows and chickens) and his arguments are total nonsense. Just because you want to eat meat and some animals eat it doesn't mean that that makes it okay and ethical. Like what? Also just because there are smart omnivores doesn't mean that they're immune to ghastly logical fallacies. I can understand eating meat due to apathy, but trying to justify it is just wow so interesting.
I think it's important that non-vegans speak up in favor of veganism. Your pro-vegan message might be better received than if a vegan expressed it. I can imagine someone thinking "Hmm, even people who eat animal products recognize that it's unethical, so maybe there is something to it after all". Most of us (unless we're dishonest) do things that we think are unethical sometimes; even (gasp) vegans are guilty of this. The point is not to reach any baseline, but to continuously seek out ways one can improve. That's what veganism means for me.
How is it any less ethical then from a lion killing a zebra? (Also don't bring up those slaughter houses where cows being kept in spaces smaller then their body. Where I live, most cows live free range or at least are fed grass from the ground, so please have that mindset)
I do not mean to antagonize a vegan diet, I'm just confused as to why people think simply eating meat is unethical.
RabbitLovesYou because unlike lions we do not need meat to survive or even thrive. We only eat meat because it tastes good. By killing animals for food we are causing a lot of unnecessary harm to sentient life forms that can perceive pain and suffering.
Apart from complete lack of necessity to consume meat, there's also moral agency at play here. How is raping, murdering, and killing one's step children less ethical than lions doing it to each other? Precisely because we can *recognize* the harm and its undesirability. It is inconsistent to use the "lions" argument in some contexts while rejecting it in others. It should be rejected all over because it's really just an appeal to nature fallacy in disguise. RabbitLovesYou
Speak for yourselves. Many of us who quit being vegan/vegetarian and went back to eating meat didn't do it because we just like how it tastes. We did it because we feel healthier including it in our diets. The paleo community is full of people trying to recover their health and vitality after years, sometimes decades, on plants-only diets that left us overweight, feeling sick and miserable, or dealing with chronic illnesses and digestive problems.
And no, not everyone who fails to thrive on such diets simply "did it wrong." Different bodies, different needs.
His video was so cringey. I feel like his mind is made up already.
she looks almost the same when you compare her back in 2017 and now in 2020, but nikocado has basicly doubled his size! sad!
Why do you talk so smart? You're very intelligent, how?
Misha ッ She has a degree in Philosophy I believe. It was in one of her vids.
I don't remember her saying she eats processed foods. and unhealthy oil. which videos are you talking about?
Erin May Your brain must be addled with syphilis then.
Not sure if serious
school does wonders misha
"You are not an ape. You're not a primate" Hun, what kind of quack doctor did you go to??? THATS EXACTLY WHAT HUMANS ARE.
All these ex-vegans have one thing in common. They apparently tried all the vegan diets. RT4, 80/10/10, fully raw etc. , but they haven't tried to just eat a normal balanced vegan diet that contains enough calories and nutrients.
Underrated comment tbh
OMG Swayze, I love you. Thanks for the help. :) But there are many people who do follow a whole foods plant based diet with beans and legumes and supplements etc, and still fail. What do you you say to them? I did it for a year before going raw, and than another year after being raw. I now understand that raw food diets are pseudoscience; but what I gather from your videos, the only people I've seen you recommend are Jack Norris and Ginny Messina. So are you telling us we can only trust 2 people on this planet? That only 2 people know what they're talking about? That Dr. Fuhrman is wrong, that Dr. McDougall is wrong, that Dr. Greger can cherrypick studies, that Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine is wrong about fats, etc. The people you are saying are "wrong" have medical degrees. You do not. Shouldn't that ring a bell for us, too? It's the same concept in that it seems biased, depending upon what's working for you personally and what you want to believe is right. At one point in time, you used to recommend Don for having the most sound information on a healthy diet; now, you're fully against his recommendations. I'm not saying you "flip-flop," I'm just saying that people tend to recommend particular diet information, based on what's CURRENTLY working for them; that can always change (and it has for you already). I agree that many studies came out to the consensus that RED meat can be harmful in excess, but it's still the vast, vast minority. If this was so much easier and normal, you'd be able to recommend more than 2 people (or even 100 people) who know what they're doing. The reason I mentioned my bird competing for food is because vegans commonly say, "We are related to primates; therefore we should eat like them;" when primates will eat each other at times! You said to add a little canola oil to foods, but if you are talking about "sticking to the general consensus," the consensus says that canola oil is terrible for humans, that it's trash. I'm just so confused. Also, I would love to hear you talk about heme iron... Again, I love your perspective. (edit: I mentioned you in my video, which I recorded 2 days ago, saying that I admire your work).
Nikocado Avocado Instead of focusing on entire diets it would probably be best to focus on what exact nutrients you lack and then try to improve your consumption of said nutrients. Not just going "I might have a deficiency in a, b, c, d and e so it's probably all of them". Actually find out whether it is a, b, c, d or e.
Nikocado Avocado Good point about the doctors tho.
Nikocado Avocado bruh. You need to chill, she has a whole website that contains tons of plant based nutritionists and even made a video about them.
Nikocado Avocado Oh forgot about heme. Heme is either synthesized by the cytoplasm and the mitochondrion of cells. The body can transform non-heme iron into heme iron. Direct consumption is possible but not necessary.
Nikocado Avocado have you ever considered that the constant mukbangs your doing are making you feel like crap???? I don't agree at all with rt4 but you can still eat utter crap and feel ill on a vegan diet likewise on any other diet. The amount of soy,oil and processed foods you eat in your mukbangs would make anyone feel ill, sluggish and delirious. Adding animal products to what your eating now isn't going to make you feel better. And don't put down veganism from having a bad experience with rt4 and following a cult.
We need more people like you on UA-cam!
Wait... if humans aren't primates then what are we? Aliens?
Da Dragon Durp we don’t know
@@CAT-2323 Derp. We do know. We ARE Primates.
We are either source players or soulless matrix programs or entities from the first matrix who plugged into this one 🙌🏾
No we are just separate from animals
Coming back to this video to laugh at Nikocado ditching veganism for ~health and then proceeded to eat himself to 400 pounds on nothing but meat and cheese. SO HEALTHY GET THOSE NUTRIENTS NIKOCADO
"Broccoli has been bred to be more palatable"... I call bullshit on that 😂
damn can you imagine being bred to be more palatable? lol
Morfeus lmaoo
Broccoli is awesome! I bet you hate brussels sprouts too. Barbarian.
Look up fruits and vegetables in the past. We've improved them for consumption.
Actually it isn't bullshit. Wild plants are very different to the domesticated varieties we eat today. Any proper vegetable gardener like myself continues this process which has been going on for a few thousands of years. Basically you collect seed from the best plants with the characteristics you want each year and that overtime changes the plants towards those characteristics. For example originally bananas were full of large seeds. They have been selectively bred now not to and are now at a point they have no seeds so have to be grown from cuttings instead
I love the fact that you admitted that we are omnivores! I also love your love for animals and not contributing to that industry (which is so different to killing and eating our own animals out of survival) thank you for being a level headed vegan!!
I have to say I am pleased to have found you. So serene & educated... actually very enjoyable to watch.
Bless him, he should make his own choices, but, he doesn't come across as very bright
His life is so sad now. 😢 he was so cute and adorable and now he has the worst health now and like 400lbs.
youtube recommended me this video, propably beacuse i watched some drama videos about nick. its so wild to watch this with our current... um... knowledge
Isn't it weird when the only people who make no longer vegan videos and say "oh my god vegan made me sick" were the ones with crap diets?
I just came across his videos, and no shade or anything but he’s going from one extreme with how he eats to another. That cannot be good for your body :/
Make another video about Vegan Cheetah saying you can eat 5lbs of meat a week and still be vegan lol.
That kind of stupidity doesn't deserve a response!
Your joy will turn to ashes in your mouth I didn't say it, Vegan Cheetah did lol.
18:40 i understand eating in excess
*does mukbangs now*
Thanks for this. I tried watching his original video (it was late and it kept showing up in the suggestions) and I'm glad you took the time to not only watch, but to respond in such a mature, calm matter.
I don't have enough words to express how much I appreciate your research and how you link everything etc. It's so helpfull
I admire how you have discussions with other youtubers rather than calling them out and attacking them. You truly are the best vegan role model I have found and I recommend you to anybody questioning veganism.
Hey, I have hypothyroidism and I've been vegan for 2 years- What have been your findings regarding being vegan with this condition? I seem to have trouble absorbing nutrients from food which is a pain - I do supplement with B12 and some others. Just wondered what your opinion was? :)
I have hypothyroidism as well and would love to know more!
I feel like I read somewhere that iodine is important for thyroid-related things? I know it’s included in the multivitamin I take, so might be important to take a multi. But best thing to do is seek professional medical advice from a doctor and certified nutritionist :)
hi...I recently transition to plantbased vegan diet, and I am diagnosed with gout. My doctor suggested that I should restrict high purine food (nuts, spinach, cabbages and some legumes to name a few). I read an article on Mayo clinic website that purine content in plantbased food are still allowed. this kinda confused me...Do you think I should restrict or could continue eating those food?
I think you are a great source of fact and a non judge mental attitude on UA-cam . I'm a vegetarian who eats mostly vegan but I appreciate videos like this. Thank you for the great content
yes!! canola oil and flaked sea salt is the BEST combo on popcorn!
Add a dash of nutritional yeast on top as well.. The best!!
Thank god the vegan community has such a safe pair of hands. :)
Keep doing what you are doing.. You are helping people & your thorough explanations & research help so many who don't know how to see through all the junk that's out there.. I feel a bit lost sometimes. I cannot thank you enough for your response to this video.
I knew about you ages ago but I never really watched your videos ...WHY you are SO nice ;) new subscriber 💯fr
I'm glad you made this video - I've been struggling with the same things. Do you have any advice for cravings?
Kerry MacIver what are you craving? And how often?
Kerry MacIver replacement means. if I crave meat, which I do. I have some tofurkey. it's amazing and almost taste like actually turkey. but it's cruelty free yay lol. replacement meats have been very good for me when I quit eating meat. good luck!
Freelee has recently done a video on Nikacado Avocado. Would you do a response video?
Really am enjoying your videos! So level headed and honest. I’ve been thinking of incorporating some animal products and am struggling, any advice?
I'm so glad you made this reply. He has mentioned you in his newer video.
You should respond to his new one as well, he seems to try to use your own words against you.
OMG so glad you replied
I enjoyed this video. Thanks
hi love! i really love your channel, havent been back on youtube to watch your recent vids, but im glad i came back to catch up on some of your vids! :) wow, this is some shocking news regarding this guy and the doctors he was seeing... I also had a quick question about collagen and vegan collagen supplements, but do you supplement any kind of vegan supplements in your diet? I also would like to know your general opinions and comments towards collagen in general and whether we (vegans) need collagen in the body. thank you & love you! xx
What I love and appreciate about all of your videos, are how well thought out and researched they are...you calmly and patiently go point by point on every issue and explain and at times show documented research to back up what you are saying...when I see videos like this, that are so precise, I feel I can easily compare and make healthier decisions for myself...thank you so much for your wonderful channel and to care enough to help others like you are doing....many blessings...Deb XO
WOW...4 years later, if you look at him and his channel then clearly the "shift" was disastrous for him. But then maybe only raw and only fruit diet messed his head up in the first place 🤷
Make that 5 Years later.
watching him i was like " yaa funny lmao" and few minutes later i was like "holy shit he is serious"
i never cringed that much.
How do you approach vegan diets with a pancreatic disease? I would like to try a couple days a week, but I don't know if I could do it full time?
Don't mind me, 4 years later, reporting his life is going great.
Great points girl, i love your approach in this vid, and how rational you are when explaining why these trend diets arent as healthy as people think
here i am commenting on the smallest most insignificant part of the video (i agree with everything else you pointed out and you did gret job delivering the facts!)
one argument against eating eggs from rescue hens is that they lose so many key nutrients when laying eggs and therefore the only right way to use their eggs is to crack 'em in pan, throw in some dark leafy greens, make an omelette and give it to the hens! :) hens used to eat their unfertilized eggs before but now they never get to keep them. D:
LitcheTheArsm
They would lay the eggs regardless of whether or not you used them though. And if you weren't there, they wouldn't be getting your omelette so it wouldn't make any difference if you took them.
(I'm not arguing that anyone should actually eat eggs. Frankly, I hate eggs)
they would probably start eating them since that's what they're supposed to do? and if you keep rescue hens, the whole point is that you take care of them and are supposed to provide them proper nutrition. idk a more cheap and easy way to make sure they don't end up deficient.
LitcheTheArsm
If there is a rooster around then the eggs would get fertilized and wouldn't be eaten. That's the point I'm making.
You could feed your chickens a number of foods to replenish nutrients without them eating the eggs.
ofc only if there's no rooster around (and i don't understand why a vegan would want to breed farm animals..) i said it's the cheapest way. (: since they're making the food themselves.
Do you have any links supporting that a keto or raw meat diet would not give you all the nutrients you need?
this was one of the best videos I've seen from you. tackled every point and concern in a logical, sympathetic and effective way that was still engaging the whole way through (at least for me). keep it up!
I noticed that - in drugstores - the supplements' doses have been increased a lot (at least for vitamin D and B12 which I take) while the price per package stayed about the same. Surely this didn't happen because of the oh so many vegan customers...
Nick just made another video. PLEASE do a response video to it!
Thanks for replying to his video! I saw that one and wasn't sure what to think. What are your thoughts on Institute for Integrative Nutrition? I went there years ago. What do you think about fermented foods? Ayurveda? Macrobiotics? TCM Five Element Theory? Body Ecology? I saw the U.S. News & World Report said best diets of 2016 were DASH, TLC, and MIND. Also it'd be so cool if you wrote a cookbook. Thanks so much for the videos and happy holidays.
What are your arguments against the Starch Solution and high carb vegan diets? Thanks!
i watched a million videos from a million different vegan you tubers for a long time before i decided to become vegan myself. it’s been about 6 years now and truly you’re the ONLY vegan youtuber with any sort of realistic views on veganism. thank you. you deserve a hell of a lot more credit than you get!!!
Love this. Factual, compelling.
Hey swayze! I really wanted to thank you for making this video, it cleared up a lot of doubts that were getting hold of me. Now, i am not a vegan but i am looking into it. I do not mean to bash nick by saying this, but his points did get to me and made me wonder what is really right or wrong foodwise. I think diets such as rawtillfour or the potato diet and whatnot are basically bs, but i would really find insightful for you to do a video talking about vitamin K2 for example. I am also really looking forward to your DHA and EPA video. THANK YOU for your time and have an awesome day :)