Hi Jan, this was a great video about perseverance of getting that Rosella right. I strongly hope you are applying the same perseverance in resolving your health issue. Once you do, your audience will be more than happy to welcome you back !!
@@jan_wegener Es wurde mir sehr freuden !! Naechste Woche habe ich meine erste dienstreise in Deutschland nach 2 jahre. vor covid war es jede 2 monate ..
Man you have such a great advantage not just your equipment but even more so your environment! Some beautiful birds I would likely never see even in a zoo here in America.
Good to see that I am not the only one who has birds not posing optimally or taking off too fast. I noticed you used the mechanical shutter for the most part. I have definitely had issues with smaller birds needing much higher shutter speeds.
@@jan_wegener No I have trouble reacting fast enough sometimes. Also I often take too many pictures with the silent electronic shutter when I do think they are about to move
Wonderful, I am sorry that you too are still in lock down but we are all benefiting from your wonderful videos. Just got my R5 and you got me up and running in no time. Thank you. Be Safe
I wish I had such colorful birds landing in my backyard. About the best I get are bluejays, which ain't bad, but not such a great variation in color as those you see over yonder. Well done.
Another great video Jan. I live in Canada now, but grew up in Melbourne & I really hope lockdown ends soon as speaking with my family still in Melb it is bloody awful. I shoot the same gear as you (600mm f4ii), except prior to the R5 I used a 1Dx2 instead of 5D4. Got my R5 at the end of Sep and found your setup video invaluable - thank you! Your earlier video where you said the R5 was noticeably slower for AF to lock on with extenders filled me with despair as I shoot with the 1.4xIII 99% of the time. And, when I did comparison tests (1Dx2+1.4 vs R5+1.4) on the same static subjects, I agreed with your initial conclusion...the 1Dx2 snapped on to focus faster vs the R5, with the AF speed difference most obvious in low light. That said, when I was out shooting in the field, I didn't really notice the AF speed of the R5...but I suspect that's because (a) the AF is pretty fast on the R5+1.4iii anyway, and (b) it's very hard to do exact comparisons in the field because with live birds and changing light you literally need the two bodies shooting simultaneously to do a fair comparison, and (c) I haven't picked up my 1Dx2 in 3 weeks and have perhaps become accustomed to the AF speed of the R5 and now consider it 'normal' :). All that said, I'd love it if you could do a side-by-side compare of the AF speed (R5+1.4 vs 5D4+1.4) on a static subject in the same light as I really value your expert opinion. All that said, I'm really enjoying the R5 and the Animal-eye tracking really does live up to expectations. If you get bored, you can see some of my first R5 images here: www.flickr.com/photos/timjhopwood/ Again, love your work & can't wait until lockdown is over and you can get out and really put the R5 through its paces :).
Yes, it's been tough here and it just keeps going. Yes, i feel similar, by itself it is fine, but side by side the DSLRs seems to have more bite. I will have a look at your link You and me both! I doubt it will be this year, though.
@@jamiebarrera6153 I now have mark ii but I did have the mark I with the R5, I updated for lighter weight, slight improvement in image quality, autofocus and is. The mark ii is better at all the biggest being the weight or should I say the balance when handholding. Honestly I could’ve stayed with the mark i. Both lenses are good.
@@jan_wegener But finally it did. I also have two questions : 1: How is that bird with a red eyebrow called. 2: which camera would you suggest: R, R6 or 5D mark IV.
@@birdsandscratch8331 Yes! Is there one in this video with a red eyebrow? What do you have now? Personally, I would probably pass on the R. R6 is the future and the Mark IV is a fantastic cameras but a few years old er now.
Thank you. I hope to get it finished soon. One would think you'd have a lot of time in a lockdown, but it's somehow the opposite! and my little daughter does the rest hahaha
I’m no bird photographer but your passion is infectious. Excellent work here. I’m still on the fence about getting the R5 or EOS R. The price is just so up there lol. But I’ve been shooting with my canon t3i for 7 years lol, it’s time for an upgrade.
Thanks! Could look at an R6 as well, which is a bit cheaper. All these cams will be an upgrade for you, but I might be tempted to give the Eos R a pass.
Hey brother I'm using Canon eos r5. Do you know how to slower electronic shutter? I use the slowest one still let take 3-5 photos per press. That's too much most of the time I get same photos for like 5-7 shots
First of all Jan it’s so awesome to have eastern rosellas visiting your backyard! Loved this video, and I’m glad you managed to get the shot you wanted at the end.
Hey Jan, here I thought you always sharp and perfectly posed bird photos and the day always ended perfect... lol.... I always enjoy you showing us your at home shooting in small spaces. I too enjoy doing it at my home with a small back yard. Wow! you have such colorful and interesting birds to photograph. Great video . Sayin' hey.... Greg
Great Jan... what about the 1st Curtain shutter? Is this equal to the mechanical or full electronic? I am having trouble understanding. I am using the 600mm II and 1.4X III for birds in flight and am finding what you discovered, that every 4th etc... shot is just a tiny bit out of focus and I did not know why... much more pronounced with deep crops. Thanx for the discovery!
Could it be shutter shock, rather than a variation in focus, that causes the missed images with the mechanical shutter? Perhaps testing with manual focus and a fixed target would prove this one way or the other...
@@jan_wegener It is, Canon Sweden has confirmed it is and it is most noticeble at shutterspeeds around 1/20-30 s, somewhere around that area. In slower shutterspeeds it does not get noticed by the high megapixel sensor and not at faster speeds. This is the reason all new R5 and R6 are coming with EFC as standard mode as that remove the problem, maybe not in fast burst, if you shot fast burst in these half slow shutter speeds you better of using the electronic shutter which is not affected. :) How do you like the camera and I.Q with your 600 f4? I think it's excellent with my Sigma 500 f4, specially if you get close enough to the birds and the AF is brilliant :)
@@Smauges Well, at 1/400 and above one would think it shouldn't make a difference, but it does. In the slow shutter speeds, you have to use EFC or it will be very blurry. The IQ quality is pretty nice, especially at high ISO
Hi Jan, just want to say your series of R5 videos is very comprehensive and useful. I have found the same issues you describe - that the Mechanical Shutter mode is less consistent than the 2 Electronic modes - but in my case (when I really pixel peek at test detail) the MS shots were always a tiny bit lower in detail than Electronic. I actually ended up returning the R5 because of this. The obvious choice in modes would to me seem to be use First Curtain Elec. used at less than max frame rate - so that you still have 14 bit images. HOWEVER now to my question and a suggestion for one of your excellent tests? The Canon R5 User Manual states that in Electronic modes - and I think specifically first curtain "defocussed image areas may be incomplete when shooting near max. aperture at high shutter speeds" and that in this scenario "shoot with option other than electronic first curtain". As a lot of bird photography is done in these settings - I just wondered if you might be able to try and replicate this scenario described by Canon and see what happens? I can understand rolling shutter distorting a fast moving bird in flight (but it would still be interesting to see what this looks like in reality) but the incomplete background issue just sounds bizarre. Sorry for such a long message - but as you do the best R5 bird videos - thought you were the best man for the job!
We’ve seen the lockdown lorikeets, now its the restriction rosellas making an appearance - look forward to the next installment 👍😉 ..... maybe covid corellas ..... great videos and really informative 😎
Well done mate. Rarely get the Eastern Rosella here in our yard but occasionally the Crimson. Hopefully we have a bit more freedom in Melbourne soon, who knows when we'll be allowed further afield.
Yes, I was pretty happy when a couple of them showed up! Crimsons are great, too. Does not look like we will be heading outside Melbourne for the foreseeable future :/
Awesome one Jan!! I generally have Rosellas around my house (on the lawn). After seeing your first video on backyard bird photography, I have decided to try my luck by setting up a purch and bird seeds on the perch. Never succeeded in getting a single Rosella on the perch. In fact pigeons and mynas were eating all the food kept...😟
Yes, that can be a problem with feeding. I am lucky here, there are no other species coming in. It sometimes takes a while. The rosellas have only been coming recently
@@jan_wegener That's true, here in Belgium it's again going completely the wrong way with the virus. As of monday, all pubs en restaurants will be closed for a month and that is just the beginning, I guess we look at a lockdown if it's not getting better
@@jan_wegener thanks for that. I had been shooting electronic then recently switched to mechanical. Now I will be switching back. Thanks for the confirmation.
Hi Jan, Really enjoying your Video's hence I have shown support by buying your products which I am very pleased with. Cheers Jan....I see you can now travel 25k now, I hope you have some of your birding shots within range.
Nice video as always Jan, but I'm always curious how come your photos can be so clean and creamy with the iso this high..my 5D mark iv makes grainy and noisy photos at the iso higher than 800..Do you apply any effect by editing afterwards?
What, no mention of "Cripple Hammer" or "Overheating" ad nauseam?. Very relevant review with real issues I relate to. Thank you. One of your previous vids convinced me to order an R5. Due any day, so they say,
@@skootyalan556 I switch between Mechanical and full electronic. there's no real advantage for FCE unless using very low shutter speeds and you only get 13 bit with it. So atm I have been trying to shoot in H mechanical to get 14bit RAW files
Sorry, but I think that's not right. If you do not shot in H+ in 1st curtain, it is 14bit, if you go in H+ than it is 13 bit, maybe that what do you mean...
Jan, thank you for sharing your expertise. I am a novice photographer and enjoy your videos as they help me improve. I certainly am no expert in the photography department so I apologize in advance if these questions/suggestions are off base. If I understand correctly, your hide is on the opposite side of the perch than those apple slices enticing your colorful friends to your nice backyard. I wonder if setting your feeding dishes between the perch and your hide would encourage the subjects to face you more when they land? Do you think any of the motion blurr could be coming from the perch moving under the weight of the birds when they land? I suppose some of that is to be expected and unavoidable when shooting birds landing on tree limbs and such since vegetation is less stable than a large rock. Is there anything you can do to stiffen your perch to minimize it shaking when birds land and hop around on it?
Hi Russ, nice observation. In fact I placed the bowl to the opposite side, so the birds have their tail on my side of the perch, rather than facing me. IDeally they have the tail on my side and then turn sideways for my preferred pose. Perches and birds will always move a little bit. Only thing to counteract that is faster shutter speeds, which can be difficult to achieve in darker environments
Hi Jan, thanks for all of these great bird photo videos, learning a lot! Loving my R5 as well. Wondering why you don't just increase your ISO to get your shutter speed and aperture where you want them when shooting? I assume you are worried about noise, but going from say 3200 to 6400 shouldn't be that much noisier, and of course there is de-noise post processing software. I assume you find that the lower ISO image is still better than higher ISO even with de-noising?
Thank you! Well, I was already going between 3200 and 6400 and I don't love being beyond that if I have the option to just get closer. In a true real life situation where I could not get closer, I would bump the ISO.
@@jan_wegener Thanks Jan, will try for that range too. But I have the 100-500, and I'm more of a walk-around-taking-shots person so sometimes I can't. Watching your how to edit videos next so I get better at post processing...
@@jan_wegener you can clean up with high iso but nothing can fix out of focus from slow shutter speeds , I'd rather have a bit of noise and sharp focus
Thanks Jan for another great video - very much appreciate the time you put in to share your knowledge & experience photographing birds & the equipment you use.I’m thinking of buying the R6 & was wondering which telephoto is the best pairing for it - the RF 100-500 with a 1.4 extender or an EF lens which of course would need the adapter- I would consider an extender in either case as well. Obviously the converter & extender work ok together.?
Yes, they work together. What EF lens would you be looking at? If you are going for a mirrorless camera, I would be tempted to look at a mirrorless lens, too.
I’m after the R6 & thought of the RF 100-500 but not sure how it would perform with the teleconverters especially the 2x. ( some say not so good) The EF lens I would look at would be the 400mm f4 ( second hand). I’d like to get to 800mm reach as I photograph lots of small birds. Certainly leaning towards the RF lens at this stage- also wondering if canon will release any new RF lenses next year?
@@lynfaulks4377 I am sure Canon will release a bunch of nice lenses in the next two years. I would not expect the 100-500 to be workable with the 2x. You'd need so much light. It would be wide open at F14 or so
Hi Jan I wonder if the very low shutter speed is what is causing problems for you with the mechanical shutter especially - any vibration caused by the shutter will cause some camera shake with the long lens and a high shutter speed will fix this I would think Bit puzzled why you've chosen 1/400 sec instead of say 1/1000 or 1/2000 and let the iso go higher , the R5 seems to cope very well with high isos. Slightly wider aperture would be better than slow shutter Even for perched birds my starting point is 1/4000 sec and f/8 and auto iso (I almost never use a tripod though as I'm almost always out on about shooting birds handheld and if I'm lucky enough to spot a bird at home there's no time to set up my tripod) I'd rather have sharp focus than low iso personally as there's no way to fix out of focus. Also repeating the sunrise clip over and over is pretty boring Thanks Noel
To get to 1/1000 + I'd have to use ISO 16000 or more and even with the good R5 sensor that results in a lot of loss of fine detail. With the 2x Wide open is F8. If I get 1/400 F 6.3 ISO 6400 like in one image. I'd have to use ISO 25600 to get to 1/1250.The image I get then is definitely worse than the ones I get at 6400. It's not like all images were blurry. ISO and shutter speed is always a trade off. But personally I see the 6400+ range as an emergency only range.
If you look at my other videos you will see that I don't just shoot in my backyard, but even if I did, this lens would take much better images than most other lenses :)
@@jan_wegener Lol, I recently sold my EF 600 MK2, impractical af, especially for as I live in UK, doesn't seem worth it, going back to an EF 100-400 II.
Hi Jan, thank you for such an informative and awesome video. Loved watching your patience and execution. If you dont mind, I just had a quick question. So I just got my R5 and I always use a EF100-400m2 for my bird photography. Have you noticed any loss of focus points or other issues when using this combo (r5 and 100-400) WITH either of the extenders?
@@jan_wegener Hey Jan, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Sorry, I don't think I did a good job explaining my question. I know with certain lenses when combined with the EF extenders, you can only use single or central autofocus points. I'm not sure if it's lens dependent or body dependent. Have you noticed anything like this with your R5 and 100-400 with the extenders?
@@WuBr94 That is something that was only true with DSLR cameras. Mirrorless have much better AF systems and you keep most points even at F11 wide open.
Amazing shots, Jan! I just got my 800mm f/11 and soon to receive the 2x RF teleconverter to pair. May I ask, can you tell me how to set up my backyard, which is actually located on a bird sanctuary, on the waterfront in South Florida? I would LOVE to get some of these shots from the confront of my home.
I have made a few videos about my backyard set ups and also written an ebook about how to attract birds. That might help, too. Usually offering some food or water can be a good start. ua-cam.com/video/P8eHbkjxYGo/v-deo.html aviscapes.com/attracting-birds/
@@kilohotel6750 I think that was a good move. Canons free adapter, has moved from an initial delay of up to 30 days to up to 45! Most shops here in the uk are “awaiting stock” hope you get your body soon.
Excellent video as always Jan. Have you compared Raw with CRaw in the R5 ? I wondered if you can see any difference. It would save a lot of storage space if you can get away with CRaw.
I haven't, but I have seen a few CRAWs that I was send and they looked pretty good. Although personally I want to go for max quality so I stick with RAW, but CRAW seems pretty good
@@jan_wegener . Might be worth taking a look yourself as I have downloaded some full res files that look indistinguishable but are half the file size. I am still waiting for my R5 hire to arrive and see for myself.
Hi Jan, this was a great video about perseverance of getting that Rosella right. I strongly hope you are applying the same perseverance in resolving your health issue. Once you do, your audience will be more than happy to welcome you back !!
Hopefully very soon
@@jan_wegener Es wurde mir sehr freuden !!
Naechste Woche habe ich meine erste dienstreise in Deutschland nach 2 jahre. vor covid war es jede 2 monate ..
Man you have such a great advantage not just your equipment but even more so your environment! Some beautiful birds I would likely never see even in a zoo here in America.
Yes, some very nice birds around in Australia :)
Good to see that I am not the only one who has birds not posing optimally or taking off too fast. I noticed you used the mechanical shutter for the most part. I have definitely had issues with smaller birds needing much higher shutter speeds.
You mean you need more frames per second than 12 for smaller birds ?
@@jan_wegener No I have trouble reacting fast enough sometimes. Also I often take too many pictures with the silent electronic shutter when I do think they are about to move
Wonderful, I am sorry that you too are still in lock down but we are all benefiting from your wonderful videos. Just got my R5 and you got me up and running in no time. Thank you. Be Safe
Great to hear!
I wish I had such colorful birds landing in my backyard. About the best I get are bluejays, which ain't bad, but not such a great variation in color as those you see over yonder. Well done.
Blue Jays are pretty cool, tho! I think we always like what we can't have hehe
thank you for the awesome content Jan as always. I don't usually comment but I really appreciate your work, keep it up!
I appreciate that! Glad you liked it. I tried to make this one as fun to watch as possible
Another great video Jan. I live in Canada now, but grew up in Melbourne & I really hope lockdown ends soon as speaking with my family still in Melb it is bloody awful.
I shoot the same gear as you (600mm f4ii), except prior to the R5 I used a 1Dx2 instead of 5D4. Got my R5 at the end of Sep and found your setup video invaluable - thank you! Your earlier video where you said the R5 was noticeably slower for AF to lock on with extenders filled me with despair as I shoot with the 1.4xIII 99% of the time. And, when I did comparison tests (1Dx2+1.4 vs R5+1.4) on the same static subjects, I agreed with your initial conclusion...the 1Dx2 snapped on to focus faster vs the R5, with the AF speed difference most obvious in low light. That said, when I was out shooting in the field, I didn't really notice the AF speed of the R5...but I suspect that's because (a) the AF is pretty fast on the R5+1.4iii anyway, and (b) it's very hard to do exact comparisons in the field because with live birds and changing light you literally need the two bodies shooting simultaneously to do a fair comparison, and (c) I haven't picked up my 1Dx2 in 3 weeks and have perhaps become accustomed to the AF speed of the R5 and now consider it 'normal' :). All that said, I'd love it if you could do a side-by-side compare of the AF speed (R5+1.4 vs 5D4+1.4) on a static subject in the same light as I really value your expert opinion. All that said, I'm really enjoying the R5 and the Animal-eye tracking really does live up to expectations. If you get bored, you can see some of my first R5 images here: www.flickr.com/photos/timjhopwood/
Again, love your work & can't wait until lockdown is over and you can get out and really put the R5 through its paces :).
Yes, it's been tough here and it just keeps going.
Yes, i feel similar, by itself it is fine, but side by side the DSLRs seems to have more bite.
I will have a look at your link
You and me both! I doubt it will be this year, though.
Some lovely images. Love the Mountain Bluebird shots!
awesome video mate, thanks for all the nice images and for the info as well
Glad you enjoyed it
1st, I love my R5. I have f4 500mm and both extenders work great with R5 and 500mm. Image quality is awesome!!
That's a great set up!
Is it the mk1 500mm you have. I have the mk1 and would be interested in the R5 and can't get R5 and 500mm mk2 🙂 thanks
@@jamiebarrera6153 I now have mark ii but I did have the mark I with the R5, I updated for lighter weight, slight improvement in image quality, autofocus and is. The mark ii is better at all the biggest being the weight or should I say the balance when handholding. Honestly I could’ve stayed with the mark i. Both lenses are good.
@@erich7h thanks for reply 🙂 Excellent so focusing is good on mk1
And with a 1.4x thanks for any help
@@jamiebarrera6153 yes it’s fine, obviously the mark ii is better but the mark I performs excellent!!
Love all your videos, tutorials, reviews of your gears all in one awesome video. Best regards
Thank you very much!
Glad that you finally got the shot
It's been driving me crazy and was one reason this video took a while to get out!
@@jan_wegener But finally it did. I also have two questions : 1: How is that bird with a red eyebrow called. 2: which camera would you suggest: R, R6 or 5D mark IV.
@@birdsandscratch8331 Yes! Is there one in this video with a red eyebrow? What do you have now? Personally, I would probably pass on the R. R6 is the future and the Mark IV is a fantastic cameras but a few years old er now.
Another great video mate, glad all your patience paid off. Such a stunning species. Cheers, Duade
Glad you enjoyed it
This was so fun to watch!!! Thank you for all the wonderful behind the scenes and tips!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Jan! Looking foward to seeing your next video about editing this stunning portrait of that gorgeous bird!
Thank you. I hope to get it finished soon. One would think you'd have a lot of time in a lockdown, but it's somehow the opposite! and my little daughter does the rest hahaha
I’m no bird photographer but your passion is infectious. Excellent work here. I’m still on the fence about getting the R5 or EOS R. The price is just so up there lol. But I’ve been shooting with my canon t3i for 7 years lol, it’s time for an upgrade.
Thanks! Could look at an R6 as well, which is a bit cheaper. All these cams will be an upgrade for you, but I might be tempted to give the Eos R a pass.
Hey brother I'm using Canon eos r5. Do you know how to slower electronic shutter? I use the slowest one still let take 3-5 photos per press. That's too much most of the time I get same photos for like 5-7 shots
First of all Jan it’s so awesome to have eastern rosellas visiting your backyard! Loved this video, and I’m glad you managed to get the shot you wanted at the end.
Thank you! They're pretty cool birds!
Hey Jan, here I thought you always sharp and perfectly posed bird photos and the day always ended perfect... lol.... I always enjoy you showing us your at home shooting in small spaces. I too enjoy doing it at my home with a small back yard. Wow! you have such colorful and interesting birds to photograph. Great video . Sayin' hey.... Greg
I wish! It can be quite fun and rewarding to just step outside the rear door, rather than always travelling far
It’s hard to find videos with actual, useful information! This was very helpful!
Glad you think so!
First! 🙌🥳 Happy there's another video Jan!
you got beat! :D I know, this one took way too long.
Great Jan... what about the 1st Curtain shutter? Is this equal to the mechanical or full electronic? I am having trouble understanding. I am using the 600mm II and 1.4X III for birds in flight and am finding what you discovered, that every 4th etc... shot is just a tiny bit out of focus and I did not know why... much more pronounced with deep crops. Thanx for the discovery!
1st Curtain is only really useful when using slow shutter speeds as it limits vibrations a lot.
Could it be shutter shock, rather than a variation in focus, that causes the missed images with the mechanical shutter? Perhaps testing with manual focus and a fixed target would prove this one way or the other...
That could be one possibility. After all the shutter keeps going up and down.
@@jan_wegener It is, Canon Sweden has confirmed it is and it is most noticeble at shutterspeeds around 1/20-30 s, somewhere around that area. In slower shutterspeeds it does not get noticed by the high megapixel sensor and not at faster speeds. This is the reason all new R5 and R6 are coming with EFC as standard mode as that remove the problem, maybe not in fast burst, if you shot fast burst in these half slow shutter speeds you better of using the electronic shutter which is not affected. :)
How do you like the camera and I.Q with your 600 f4? I think it's excellent with my Sigma 500 f4, specially if you get close enough to the birds and the AF is brilliant :)
@@Smauges Well, at 1/400 and above one would think it shouldn't make a difference, but it does. In the slow shutter speeds, you have to use EFC or it will be very blurry. The IQ quality is pretty nice, especially at high ISO
bird photography is all about patience - you do great -
Thank you!
Fantastic video Jan, very inspiring.
Thanks a lot mate
Fantastic, thank you
Glad you liked it!
Great video! 🥰 its great to follow your daily experiences
Glad you enjoy it!
Fun video mate! Thanks for the info & effort!
Thank you!
Very informative and entertaining. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks Jan. This is another really helpful video. Hope Melbourne opens up soon.
Great to hear. Me too! There was only 1 case today.....
Hi Jan, just want to say your series of R5 videos is very comprehensive and useful. I have found the same issues you describe - that the Mechanical Shutter mode is less consistent than the 2 Electronic modes - but in my case (when I really pixel peek at test detail) the MS shots were always a tiny bit lower in detail than Electronic. I actually ended up returning the R5 because of this. The obvious choice in modes would to me seem to be use First Curtain Elec. used at less than max frame rate - so that you still have 14 bit images. HOWEVER now to my question and a suggestion for one of your excellent tests? The Canon R5 User Manual states that in Electronic modes - and I think specifically first curtain "defocussed image areas may be incomplete when shooting near max. aperture at high shutter speeds" and that in this scenario "shoot with option other than electronic first curtain". As a lot of bird photography is done in these settings - I just wondered if you might be able to try and replicate this scenario described by Canon and see what happens? I can understand rolling shutter distorting a fast moving bird in flight (but it would still be interesting to see what this looks like in reality) but the incomplete background issue just sounds bizarre. Sorry for such a long message - but as you do the best R5 bird videos - thought you were the best man for the job!
From what I understand Elec. First curtain is mainly good for long exposures to remove camera shake.
I got excited when the bird landed on the perch it was like I was there beautiful birds Jan
hehe, thank you! :) I tried to give it a different feel and take you guys with me
Thanks Jan already looking forward to your editing ... now we have new features in the Lightroom October update!
Let's see, maybe it's better!
We’ve seen the lockdown lorikeets, now its the restriction rosellas making an appearance - look forward to the next installment 👍😉 ..... maybe covid corellas ..... great videos and really informative 😎
Thanks! I feel ready for some Freedom Princess Parrots haha
What a super cool area you live in. Me, I’ve got a backyard full of noisy grackles. lol
hehe, after a while we also want something we cannot have :D
Well done mate. Rarely get the Eastern Rosella here in our yard but occasionally the Crimson. Hopefully we have a bit more freedom in Melbourne soon, who knows when we'll be allowed further afield.
Yes, I was pretty happy when a couple of them showed up! Crimsons are great, too. Does not look like we will be heading outside Melbourne for the foreseeable future :/
Awesome one Jan!!
I generally have Rosellas around my house (on the lawn). After seeing your first video on backyard bird photography, I have decided to try my luck by setting up a purch and bird seeds on the perch. Never succeeded in getting a single Rosella on the perch. In fact pigeons and mynas were eating all the food kept...😟
Yes, that can be a problem with feeding. I am lucky here, there are no other species coming in. It sometimes takes a while. The rosellas have only been coming recently
fab stuff buddy!! enjoyed that, great info, it can be frustrating eh lol 😂looks like ill need a battery grip too now 🙄😂
Thank you! The Grip definitely helps !
You're so lucky Jan to have so much beautiful bird species in your garden, I wouldn't mind a lock down where you live ;-)
grts
It isn't as much fun after about a week lol
@@jan_wegener That's true, here in Belgium it's again going completely the wrong way with the virus.
As of monday, all pubs en restaurants will be closed for a month and that is just the beginning, I guess we look at a lockdown if it's not getting better
@@siegfriednoet I hope you are not heading this way. We had only 2 cases today and still hardcore lockdown
@@jan_wegener In which country do you live ?
@@siegfriednoet Australia
After the firmware updates, do you still maintain that the electronic shutter is the best mode to shoot the posed bird?
in most cases yes, but first curtain electronic is also good, just a bit noisier
@@jan_wegener thanks for that. I had been shooting electronic then recently switched to mechanical. Now I will be switching back. Thanks for the confirmation.
Hi Jan, Really enjoying your Video's hence I have shown support by buying your products which I am very pleased with. Cheers Jan....I see you can now travel 25k now, I hope you have some of your birding shots within range.
That's great to hear. Thanks a lot, Rodney. Unfortunately, there;s not much within the 25km for me :(
Jan Wegener what a bummer 😞
thank you, Sir!!
You are welcome!
Nice video as always Jan, but I'm always curious how come your photos can be so clean and creamy with the iso this high..my 5D mark iv makes grainy and noisy photos at the iso higher than 800..Do you apply any effect by editing afterwards?
The secrets is exposing well to the right. I made a video about that and trying to get light coloured backgrounds. Then you can hardly see any noise.
What, no mention of "Cripple Hammer" or "Overheating" ad nauseam?. Very relevant review with real issues I relate to. Thank you.
One of your previous vids convinced me to order an R5. Due any day, so they say,
hehe, I have not had any of those issues. Glad you liked it
Put some Liquid Nails on the perch, that’ll slow the buggers down 🦜
hehe
Good vid, thanks. Why do you not take the Electronic 1st Curtain, is that not in RAW-14bit?
It's 13 bit as well and only has an advantage at slow shutter speeds.
@@jan_wegener So, your usual shutter ie mechanical rather than EFC? Or do you ever use full electronic? Great video
@@skootyalan556 I switch between Mechanical and full electronic. there's no real advantage for FCE unless using very low shutter speeds and you only get 13 bit with it. So atm I have been trying to shoot in H mechanical to get 14bit RAW files
Sorry, but I think that's not right. If you do not shot in H+ in 1st curtain, it is 14bit, if you go in H+ than it is 13 bit, maybe that what do you mean...
@@FDunst-xj8rn menu says otherwise
Interesting vid. Does the extender change the F stop in real life? e.g. with a 1.4 extender f9 becomes around f13 approx?
It allows one stop less of max aperture. So and F4 lens becomes and F 5.6 lens with the extender attached
Jan, thank you for sharing your expertise. I am a novice photographer and enjoy your videos as they help me improve. I certainly am no expert in the photography department so I apologize in advance if these questions/suggestions are off base.
If I understand correctly, your hide is on the opposite side of the perch than those apple slices enticing your colorful friends to your nice backyard. I wonder if setting your feeding dishes between the perch and your hide would encourage the subjects to face you more when they land?
Do you think any of the motion blurr could be coming from the perch moving under the weight of the birds when they land? I suppose some of that is to be expected and unavoidable when shooting birds landing on tree limbs and such since vegetation is less stable than a large rock. Is there anything you can do to stiffen your perch to minimize it shaking when birds land and hop around on it?
Hi Russ,
nice observation. In fact I placed the bowl to the opposite side, so the birds have their tail on my side of the perch, rather than facing me. IDeally they have the tail on my side and then turn sideways for my preferred pose.
Perches and birds will always move a little bit. Only thing to counteract that is faster shutter speeds, which can be difficult to achieve in darker environments
Hi Jan, thanks for all of these great bird photo videos, learning a lot! Loving my R5 as well. Wondering why you don't just increase your ISO to get your shutter speed and aperture where you want them when shooting? I assume you are worried about noise, but going from say 3200 to 6400 shouldn't be that much noisier, and of course there is de-noise post processing software. I assume you find that the lower ISO image is still better than higher ISO even with de-noising?
Thank you! Well, I was already going between 3200 and 6400 and I don't love being beyond that if I have the option to just get closer. In a true real life situation where I could not get closer, I would bump the ISO.
@@jan_wegener Thanks Jan, will try for that range too. But I have the 100-500, and I'm more of a walk-around-taking-shots person so sometimes I can't. Watching your how to edit videos next so I get better at post processing...
@@pbgalvin The R5 can easily handle 12800 with some clean up, but I prefer to keep it cleaner if I can
@@jan_wegener Agreed. Thanks again for all these great how-to videos.
@@jan_wegener you can clean up with high iso but nothing can fix out of focus from slow shutter speeds , I'd rather have a bit of noise and sharp focus
Thanks Jan for another great video - very much appreciate the time you put in to share your knowledge & experience photographing birds & the equipment you use.I’m thinking of buying the R6 & was wondering which telephoto is the best pairing for it - the RF 100-500 with a 1.4 extender or an EF lens which of course would need the adapter- I would consider an extender in either case as well. Obviously the converter & extender work ok together.?
Yes, they work together. What EF lens would you be looking at?
If you are going for a mirrorless camera, I would be tempted to look at a mirrorless lens, too.
I’m after the R6 & thought of the RF 100-500 but not sure how it would perform with the teleconverters especially the 2x. ( some say not so good) The EF lens I would look at would be the 400mm f4 ( second hand). I’d like to get to 800mm reach as I photograph lots of small birds. Certainly leaning towards the RF lens at this stage- also wondering if canon will release any new RF lenses next year?
@@lynfaulks4377 I am sure Canon will release a bunch of nice lenses in the next two years. I would not expect the 100-500 to be workable with the 2x. You'd need so much light. It would be wide open at F14 or so
Hi Jan
I wonder if the very low shutter speed is what is causing problems for you with the mechanical shutter especially - any vibration caused by the shutter will cause some camera shake with the long lens and a high shutter speed will fix this I would think
Bit puzzled why you've chosen 1/400 sec instead of say 1/1000 or 1/2000 and let the iso go higher , the R5 seems to cope very well with high isos.
Slightly wider aperture would be better than slow shutter
Even for perched birds my starting point is 1/4000 sec and f/8 and auto iso (I almost never use a tripod though as I'm almost always out on about shooting birds handheld and if I'm lucky enough to spot a bird at home there's no time to set up my tripod)
I'd rather have sharp focus than low iso personally as there's no way to fix out of focus.
Also repeating the sunrise clip over and over is pretty boring
Thanks
Noel
To get to 1/1000 + I'd have to use ISO 16000 or more and even with the good R5 sensor that results in a lot of loss of fine detail.
With the 2x Wide open is F8.
If I get 1/400 F 6.3 ISO 6400 like in one image. I'd have to use ISO 25600 to get to 1/1250.The image I get then is definitely worse than the ones I get at 6400. It's not like all images were blurry. ISO and shutter speed is always a trade off. But personally I see the 6400+ range as an emergency only range.
So you bought an $11,000 lens to take pictures of birds in your garden?
If you look at my other videos you will see that I don't just shoot in my backyard, but even if I did, this lens would take much better images than most other lenses :)
@@jan_wegener Lol, I recently sold my EF 600 MK2, impractical af, especially for as I live in UK, doesn't seem worth it, going back to an EF 100-400 II.
@@frostybe3r not if you use it in your backyard :P
@@jan_wegener :)
Re post processing of images, can you show the process using canon DPP4 software?
I will, cause that's the only thing that really works atm
Hi Jan, thank you for such an informative and awesome video. Loved watching your patience and execution. If you dont mind, I just had a quick question. So I just got my R5 and I always use a EF100-400m2 for my bird photography. Have you noticed any loss of focus points or other issues when using this combo (r5 and 100-400) WITH either of the extenders?
Thank you, glad you liked it. What do you mean when you say loss of focus points?
@@jan_wegener Hey Jan, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Sorry, I don't think I did a good job explaining my question. I know with certain lenses when combined with the EF extenders, you can only use single or central autofocus points. I'm not sure if it's lens dependent or body dependent. Have you noticed anything like this with your R5 and 100-400 with the extenders?
@@WuBr94 That is something that was only true with DSLR cameras. Mirrorless have much better AF systems and you keep most points even at F11 wide open.
Amazing shots, Jan! I just got my 800mm f/11 and soon to receive the 2x RF teleconverter to pair. May I ask, can you tell me how to set up my backyard, which is actually located on a bird sanctuary, on the waterfront in South Florida? I would LOVE to get some of these shots from the confront of my home.
I have made a few videos about my backyard set ups and also written an ebook about how to attract birds. That might help, too.
Usually offering some food or water can be a good start.
ua-cam.com/video/P8eHbkjxYGo/v-deo.html
aviscapes.com/attracting-birds/
Where do you live mean which country is home country? I never saw these colourful parrots.
Melbourne, Australia
@@jan_wegener you are lucky and your images are amazing
@@farhatafza2739 thanks!
Thanks for the video.
Do you have IBIS on or off?
I always have ibis and is on it stabilises the viewfinder a lot, especially for video
Great video. I’m looking to use the same setup, just need to get the R5. Ive got the adapter and grip but looks like a long wait for the body.
Ha, I’ve got the body but no adapter! Also a long wait.
maybe you guys need to get together. Must be pretty popular, when they're still not freely available
@@davidg3307 I was able to get the adapter, just the basic one no control ring or filter at Best Buy this week. Thought I should get it while I could.
@@kilohotel6750 I think that was a good move. Canons free adapter, has moved from an initial delay of up to 30 days to up to 45! Most shops here in the uk are “awaiting stock” hope you get your body soon.
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Excellent video as always Jan. Have you compared Raw with CRaw in the R5 ? I wondered if you can see any difference. It would save a lot of storage space if you can get away with CRaw.
I haven't, but I have seen a few CRAWs that I was send and they looked pretty good. Although personally I want to go for max quality so I stick with RAW, but CRAW seems pretty good
@@jan_wegener . Might be worth taking a look yourself as I have downloaded some full res files that look indistinguishable but are half the file size. I am still waiting for my R5 hire to arrive and see for myself.
@@wildcat1065 yes, the ones I saw looked very similar. It probably will only show up when working on the images a lot.
Great work and video quality! You should get more views then my channel! Respect.
Much appreciated! Every comment, like and share helps :) I will get there but it takes time