@@ShyQharacterit did change much, because he didn’t crack with them on the stack. Hindsight is 20/20, but if he forgot he couldn’t crack treasures, there’s no going back.
Dylan with the "Fuck fuck! You guys shut the fuck up! I'm tryin to do something here " had me absolutely rolling LMAO that was SO good. The friend dynamics are very strong, and I love it
@@banditcroco9014 Same here. Tuck also piloting one of my favorite commanders within the recent years is also a huge plus for this expisode to me. Xyris is so ridiculously strong. An early Impact Tremors this game wouldve changed this game drastically lol
Fun fact: the early game is one of the reasons Xyris is notorious for going off without being disrupted. People want to get hit with him so they let it hit them, which invariably plays into the gameplan. Xyris dodges countermagic and removal because people want it to resolve and smack them upside the head.
Tuck probably should have separate representations of snakes for summoning sick or not, 2nd to last turn he attacked with some snakes that couldn't attack.
My atraxa Cedh deck does a similar thing, I run cards like smothering tithe and orcish bow masters, so I run Lorain (because I have some blinking shenanigans, and Displacer Kitten) which can also tap to draw a card. I also run Ertai Resurrected, which can counter a spell, triggered, or activated ability while also forcing an opponent to draw a card. Or if I wanna remove a creature or Planeswalker. Ofc I also run Arcane Denial (who doesn't?)
Xyris is one of my pet decks, and people sleep on it all the time. People often say, "It's bad because in order to get the snakes your opponents have to do what you don't want them to do." 5 turns later, they're staring at 40 snakes and asking if I'll pay for Rhystic Study.
Sry i would love to ask what sleeves Tyler uses in this game..? Cause i would think its Dragon shield alter sleeves but They have the small white gap at the side which i hate but Tyler’s dont whats the secret thx to all…looks sick really good
Speaking of Xyris, the Writhing Storm what if we do a Best Temur in cEDH? trying out Xyris, the Writhing Storm Snakes, Maelstrom Wanderer Food Chain, Kalamax, the Stormsire Breach Borne Upon a Wind and Haldan, Avid Arcanist // Pako, Arcane Retriever Big Doggo Extra combats?
I have been playing Xyris since it released back in Ikoria, so glad to see it getting some respect in CEDH! Maybe I should brew a 3rd Xyris deck for CEDH?
So snek man feels like you have a worse bowmaster in the command zone, but still excellent. Would you run it in temur concecrated sphinx lists though 🤔
Perplexing Chimera allows you to remove two points of interaction (steal a spell and then point that spell at a different enemy spell) and Tyler runs both Seedborn Muse and Homeward Path so he can use it every turn.
@@anergyboy2192 Thank you really much! I missed the Homeward Path to get Chimera back. So for me it looked like a really expensive Narset's Reversal with a downside :D
Xyris, the Writhing Storm does the thing i wish a mono white legendary creature did. in my opinion, it's powerful because of it's color access and if WotC does make a mono white creature similar to it people will be angry. However, that mono white creature has to be Xyris, the Writhing Storm plus. Really interesting game, well played.
Pelople sleep on Xyrus. 100% It's the "smoll potatoes" theory I have. "Oh you only draw one card on X? Sure" "Oh you only make a 1/1 on X? Lmao whatever." People's threat assessment is magnified greatly by "size" so if you're doing constant value pieces people will generally shrug that off until you've amassed a state so powerful it causes you to overrun the opponent. No one wants to waste their removal on a low to mid-power value or engine item, then the board becomes full of low to mid-power engine items.
In one of your videos a thousand years ago or something, Tyler says he really wants to make Xyris CEDH viable. Does Tuck's list come close, especially given what this episode demonstrates? Or is it just too dependent on what your opponents are doing?
This is a term I'm seeing becoming more common "Mid-range Hell" and I'm not sure what it means. Any elaboration to help me make sense of it? All comments welcome
It’s referring to the cEDH meta right now being heavily favoring midrange decks because they’re powerful enough to win through most stax and to control most turbo decks so every game turns into a midrange slog where no one can get thru the advantage engines of their opponents
yeah "ragavan is busted" like Cam on Etali saying "yeah this isn't a turbo hand at all but ima swing rag at you" ok "flip over rite of flame" cam - "oh that changes everything" -- please be responsible cam -- cam "yeah we are casting rite of flame into mystic remora" (proceeds to cast etali and draw mystic remora 12+ cards in one turn and winning on turn 2) moral of the story, never trust a turbo deck
YOU CAN'T CRACK TREASURES WITH GRAND ABOLISHER OUT
He could’ve just cracked them for mana when it was still on the stack and forced the Otawara activation out, so it didn’t change too much
oopsie!
@@ShyQharacter in that scenario, Cam could have gone to combat, then second main. That way any mana added to the pool fizzles.
dont you get prio anyways?
@@ShyQharacterit did change much, because he didn’t crack with them on the stack. Hindsight is 20/20, but if he forgot he couldn’t crack treasures, there’s no going back.
Dylan with the "Fuck fuck! You guys shut the fuck up! I'm tryin to do something here " had me absolutely rolling LMAO that was SO good. The friend dynamics are very strong, and I love it
very tim robinson
16:20 "roll for crypt. odds will be ouch" i dunno why, but hearing that in tylers deadpan voice BREATHKILLED ME
I've been listening to Fit For A King since 2011, never thought I'd see them on my favorite cEDH channel. I'm more than pleasantly surprised
a great day to be an enjoyer of both. what a day
@@banditcroco9014 Same here. Tuck also piloting one of my favorite commanders within the recent years is also a huge plus for this expisode to me. Xyris is so ridiculously strong. An early Impact Tremors this game wouldve changed this game drastically lol
WHAT A GLORIOUS DAAAAAAAY!!!!
Facts though, I’ve met the band multiple times during warped tour and straight up the nicest dudes out there 🤘🏼
6:15 I just love how the stack never really empties 😂
Fun fact: the early game is one of the reasons Xyris is notorious for going off without being disrupted.
People want to get hit with him so they let it hit them, which invariably plays into the gameplan. Xyris dodges countermagic and removal because people want it to resolve and smack them upside the head.
Ah, so this is the recording session that led to Cam tweeting that Ragavan is the best dork in cEDH
something I learned recently was that you can't crack Treasures (or activate any rocks!) while Abolisher is out! the more you know
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOW MISSED TWICE RECENTLY
I guess if he had the otawara in hand already he could preemptively cracked the treasures before the grand abolisher resolves floating the mana.
Ken where have you been on these streams? I don’t think I’ve seen you play on a stream in close to two years!
@@Tft220 Thank you for inquiring! I've just fallen in love with IRL Magic again, and since I moved, I haven't had a streaming setup since.
It doesn’t have the “mana ability” clause!! :O
This was the most fair cEH start I've seen in ages
Wait, did y’all say you were gonna a figure out how we get out of midrange hell, then all play midrange decks? 😂
IF YA CAN'T BEAT THEM, JOIN THEM
@@PlaytoWinMTGCam back to Ikra/Bruse? 🧐🤔
When Kenrith dies to an army of snakes, I guess that's an ending... *puts on sunglasses* "FIT FOR A KING".
"YEAAAAAAAH"
At commandfest, my managorger hydra went brrrrrrrr. The amount of spells, and lack of removal just made a threat every one stared at...
Tuck probably should have separate representations of snakes for summoning sick or not, 2nd to last turn he attacked with some snakes that couldn't attack.
The 4 all the way to the left are the summoning sick ones. I had a remaining 57 snakes to attack with.
Your videos stack navigation is always top tier. Amazing amazing amazing
"I can't do anything against Boseiju/Otawara" - play Stifle.
I would’ve just assumed zyris was bad in cedh because drawing opponents cards but it really feeds off all the broken draw engines
It also tends to break peoples' brains. With Xyris out, you don't want to draw cards.
My atraxa Cedh deck does a similar thing, I run cards like smothering tithe and orcish bow masters, so I run Lorain (because I have some blinking shenanigans, and Displacer Kitten) which can also tap to draw a card. I also run Ertai Resurrected, which can counter a spell, triggered, or activated ability while also forcing an opponent to draw a card. Or if I wanna remove a creature or Planeswalker. Ofc I also run Arcane Denial (who doesn't?)
I wonder if FFAK is actually selling those "The Hell We Create" playmats. 🤔
We have them on tour!
Bro, I love FFAK, it was so cool seeing Tuck play with you guys!
🎉😂 what an epic game, as an active kinnan player since it was released.
One of my favorites, for sure!
Thanks guys
Can’t wait to see how the new MH3 cards will come into CEDH. Great video as always!
Watching that stack resolution over Consecrated Sphinx was nuts. Great video, y'all.
I decided to build Snakes as a meme deck and my playgroup was a little annoyed at how good it was 😂😂
met tyler in paris at the airport last week!! really funny to meet you in person :D greetings to y'all love all your videos
So funny, I watched ffak for the first time in like 2019 at impericon festival, started playing magic in 2022 and now I learn they play magic
Holding on to what we know to proud to change to scared to grow
Xyris is one of my pet decks, and people sleep on it all the time. People often say, "It's bad because in order to get the snakes your opponents have to do what you don't want them to do." 5 turns later, they're staring at 40 snakes and asking if I'll pay for Rhystic Study.
Dang! I didn't realize he sang for Off Road Minivan. Love those guys!
This is my new favorite channel
The sickest collab 🙌🏽
11:44 Tyler shouldn't be able to sacrifice treasures with a Grand Abolisher, right?
I LOVE FIT FOR A KING! I'M SO HAPPY A MEMBER PLAYS MTG!
I was just thinking about building a xyris deck last night this video has reassured this is my new brew!!!
There was a turn that esper sent was triggered 2 times. The final fortune didn't trigger when the rhystic was cast before
For the Francisco/Kraum deck, what is the line with umbral mantel?
Xyris is the best snek 🐍🐍🐍🐍
Sry i would love to ask what sleeves Tyler uses in this game..?
Cause i would think its Dragon shield alter sleeves but They have the small white gap at the side which i hate but Tyler’s dont whats the secret thx to all…looks sick really good
Great game as always lads👌
Speaking of Xyris, the Writhing Storm what if we do a Best Temur in cEDH? trying out Xyris, the Writhing Storm Snakes, Maelstrom Wanderer Food Chain, Kalamax, the Stormsire Breach Borne Upon a Wind and Haldan, Avid Arcanist // Pako, Arcane Retriever Big Doggo Extra combats?
Fuckin love the show yall seen like great people to chill with, throw some games and Crack some beers with 🍻 ❤
Anyone know the exact dragon shield purple sleeves woth the art on the back
I have been playing Xyris since it released back in Ikoria, so glad to see it getting some respect in CEDH! Maybe I should brew a 3rd Xyris deck for CEDH?
What is Tuck's playmat??
When is the Skull stitched edge playmat getting back in stock? 😢
So snek man feels like you have a worse bowmaster in the command zone, but still excellent. Would you run it in temur concecrated sphinx lists though 🤔
Can anybody tell me what's the point of Perplexing Chimera in Kinnan? Is it part of a combo, is it some kind of protection?
Perplexing Chimera allows you to remove two points of interaction (steal a spell and then point that spell at a different enemy spell) and Tyler runs both Seedborn Muse and Homeward Path so he can use it every turn.
@@anergyboy2192 Thank you really much! I missed the Homeward Path to get Chimera back. So for me it looked like a really expensive Narset's Reversal with a downside :D
Xyris, the Writhing Storm does the thing i wish a mono white legendary creature did. in my opinion, it's powerful because of it's color access and if WotC does make a mono white creature similar to it people will be angry. However, that mono white creature has to be Xyris, the Writhing Storm plus. Really interesting game, well played.
wishful thinking
I wanna see more of FranK looks like a fun deck
I’m a firm believer in beats in cedh. I killed a player with sprite dragon in a tournament over the weekend lol.
This is making me want to rebuild my xyris deck
Killer game i wish i was half the player tyler is with kinnan. Just have to grind harder i guess
I hope to see Brendan Murphy from Counterparts on the show someday
Am I wrong saying that you can’t respond to the activation of LED because it’s a mana ability, therefore it doesn’t use the stack?
LED has specific timing restrictions that don't apply to other mana abilities.
Come for the cedh, stay for the I Think You Should Leave refs
Dylan what is that playmat, and how do I get one.
RAGAVALUE
It's TUCK! Hype
Hell yeah. Xyris is bad ass
Xyris is my first cedh deck I changed it to cedh about 3 weeks ago
Hell Yeah!!!
What's next Cam, a deck named Zaraki?
You can't use artifacts for mana when Grand Abolisher is active, second time it happens :(
Is there a way to make Coram the undertaker into a cedh commander? 🤔
Why Dylan not use Brain Freeze to mill himself until find Borne Upon the Wind and tried win the game in response to Cam's Boseiju?
so hyped for MH3 cards! hope they'll shake up the midrage hell a bit
Play with the guys from frozen soul!
Well atleast i know are guys here have good music taste😌. (That is at least if they listen to it of course)
pretty new to magic why is final fortune a good card?
damn it... now I want to build Xyris
How long till you guys get Post Malone on the channel playing some games
Fantastic game. Loved your attempt at politics Dylan, keep tryin.
Pelople sleep on Xyrus. 100%
It's the "smoll potatoes" theory I have. "Oh you only draw one card on X? Sure" "Oh you only make a 1/1 on X? Lmao whatever."
People's threat assessment is magnified greatly by "size" so if you're doing constant value pieces people will generally shrug that off until you've amassed a state so powerful it causes you to overrun the opponent.
No one wants to waste their removal on a low to mid-power value or engine item, then the board becomes full of low to mid-power engine items.
dylan could have brainfreezed to try and get borne in the graveyard and win above boseiju
whats is that monstruosity of a dice XD
Tuck shouldn't have triggered the esper sentinel when he cast final fortune. Rhystic study earlier in the turn already triggered the sentinel.
Wait Mana Crypt??? What is this sorcery!
MY BOY TUCKKKKK
In one of your videos a thousand years ago or something, Tyler says he really wants to make Xyris CEDH viable. Does Tuck's list come close, especially given what this episode demonstrates? Or is it just too dependent on what your opponents are doing?
King of the tuck?
Pleeease please give us Dylans playmat !!!!!!
If he had an etb pingers
Huge fan of y’all’s would it be possible to get y’all to sign a playmat
Wouldn't some of the Xyris snakes have summoning sickness
This is a term I'm seeing becoming more common "Mid-range Hell" and I'm not sure what it means. Any elaboration to help me make sense of it? All comments welcome
It’s referring to the cEDH meta right now being heavily favoring midrange decks because they’re powerful enough to win through most stax and to control most turbo decks so every game turns into a midrange slog where no one can get thru the advantage engines of their opponents
Hey Cam and Dylan. PayMoneyWubby would love to play with you guys! He is a popular streamer and I bet he would mesh well with you guys
Play some tayam
Yesss
Go Temur!!!!!
GG ❤❤❤
yeah "ragavan is busted" like Cam on Etali saying "yeah this isn't a turbo hand at all but ima swing rag at you" ok "flip over rite of flame" cam - "oh that changes everything" -- please be responsible cam -- cam "yeah we are casting rite of flame into mystic remora" (proceeds to cast etali and draw mystic remora 12+ cards in one turn and winning on turn 2)
moral of the story, never trust a turbo deck
forgot the arcane denial draws!!!
edit: FUCK
Get wubby on here
Arcane Denial's draw trigger is a "may." You snooze, you lose lol
this is big stink
Dylan showing force of negation is illegal. Cant show cards in hand!! You can only say whats in your hand