If Luke Skywalker fought Ahsoka Tano in a one-on-one confrontation. Who would come out on top? Special thanks to Dudufilm for a wonderful intro! 1:26 - Character Introductions 5:01 - Round 1: Physical Abilities 9:30 - Round 2: Force Abilities 14:20 - Round 3: Dueling Abilities 22:35 - The Final Verdict Check out the Star Wars Versus Series ua-cam.com/video/syRAP2YOUxI/v-deo.html Check out the Which Series! ua-cam.com/play/PLDFq63aBi3_yGAJNwozcKYs0OfmgMiqu-.html
Antoine Bandele Last thing Ahsoka now fights for revenge Luke fights for all and for good he is not fighting for himself so could this cloud Ahsokas judgement with only one goal in mind which would make fights against her easier
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How would she train him? He knows more about the force than her. Received training from kenobi and yoda. And also rebuilds the Jedi order and becomes centered in the force
@@xavidotnet are they meeting during ROTJ? That’s what I wasn’t sure about. In ROTJ Luke would lose I agree, I just think by say the mandalorian timeline Luke is likely more proficient in the force
Not gonna lie... that intro from DuduFilm brought tears to my eyes... absolutely, jaw-droppingly beautiful. This is a very hard match to call, but I agree with you, I might give the slight edge to Ahsoka. It could easily go either way though.
I agree that this match would be a toss up as both are extremely talented but I feel that Ahsoka is a tad underrated as a duelist and contender as a whole. I mean she dueled Maul(oh you know, the guy who contended against DARTH SIDIOUS) to a standstill when she was 17. That's extremely young to be dueling a seasoned MASTER who has killed many other Jedi but she's had a long time to grow since then, her abilities were insane when she was a teenager so honestly she is amazing now. And again in her fights with the inquisitors she beat them in like 2 minutes. That's a really short time for a duel especially since she overcame them so easily. And again she is underrated in her fight with Vader. She is fighting him in a place that is extremely charged with the dark side and after their duel Vader is shown to be heavily injured, limping away from the temple. But another thing that you tend to overlook is Ahsoka's key attribute. Her real strength is her precision, not her speed. In TCW it was her staple mark but she has grown since then and has continued to incorporate it into her style yet now her staple is her precision. In her duels with the inquisitors and Maul she is shown to fight quickly yet her precision is what wins the day against the inquisitors. And in her duel with Maul(which we didn't see finished) she's matching him quickly yet each blow from him has a counter attack from her and you can see her pushing him back. Ahsoka has become a much more powerful and balanced dueler than she is given credit for.
RH102 Maul didn't contend with Sidious. He was toying with him the whole time. Did you see his face? He was laughing like a madman the whole time. Maul was nowhere near good enough to actually fight Sidious.
Regifloat hm idk I was just watching it and definitely overall Sidious was toying with him but at a few parts Maul was definitely surprising Sidious. And even if I'm wrong about that in TCW's drafts for some of the later episodes Ahsoka came into contact with Siddious and survived with no injuries, something very few if any have ever done.
RH102 You're right. Sidious was toying at first. But when Savage died, Maul was going all in. Even Sidious was surprised and started trying just a bit. A challenge that he could still beat though. And after that he ends it with the force.
Thank you - finally someone pointed out the obvious. One of the measures of how a fight went is the condition of the combatants when it ends. Vader gets his mask cut (I thought he needed it to breathe) and walks away limping, while Ahsoka is shown walking upright back into the temple. I disagree completely with the idea that the Vader that Luke beat was anything like in his prime. That was almost 25 years on from his near death on Mustafar at the hands of Obi-Wan and the obvious defects that Palpatine built into the suit he crafted for him (to keep him from mounting an effective overthrow should that possibility arise). No question that the symbol of SW is the distinctive mask of Darth Vader but it's amazing how popular Ahsoka has become. Many movie fans (like myself) missed the CW series (due to disdain over watching animation) the first time around but now are discovering its brilliance. And Ahsoka is at the heart of it. With the new series focusing on a female lead (Rey), more women and girls are now big SW fans and Ahsoka is their gal. Disney cannot imaginably fail to take advantage and do something more with her.
sensey07 I agree. Ahsoka dealt Vader a major blow in the fight, and its unlikely that he was just as strong as he was in his prime. After watching the video which explains that Vader got stronger over time in the original trilogy I think Ahsoka's fight explains why it appears that is the case. Its possible that Ahsoka dealt such major injuries to Vader during the fight that he had to get a new suit and recover from his injuries. That would have taken time and from what I recall Star Wars Rebels isn't long before the original trilogy (though I admit I don't know exactly how long it was before the movies) but I think that its possible that it wasn't so much the fact that he was getting stronger or that he was in his prime, but that he was finally recovering from his injuries and regaining some of the power he used to have.
Luke had a strong force power called plot defence strongest of them all you cant be killed only injured but ashoka was removable but stronger one and she can't kill vader becaose of plot defence
It's fun because nowadays Ashoka is still defended by plot armor and portrayed as the most powerful and wise force user, while Luke is dead after being portrayed as weak and coward.
@@Unbrickme Vader wasnt trying to kill luke. He was trying to see his power. Also he was conflicted at the time. If vader was going 100% he would have killed luke easily
I just want to let you know that I'm truly truly grateful for this video and all the work you put into this Star Wars is my favorite show and you put together Luke and Ahsoka two of my favorite characters that I have wonder about if they had ever fought. I'm thankful for your hard work truly thankful please keep up the best work you deliver to us.
I think the fight would finish very quickly. Ashoka's fighting style is to different from anything Luke has ever seen before. Ashoka would definitely press the advantage and finish the fight quickly before he adapted, especially if she knew he was skilled enough to defeat Vader.
Kinda late, but, idk if they sense the motives or emotions of those people. When she was killed, Anakin was still a brand new convert and nobody really knew of his betrayal and malicious intent until it was too late. She could have sensed Anakin walking up and thought of it as nothing more than a visit, or seeking counsel.
Antoine Bandele Early fight: Ahsoka & Luke stare at each other, Ahsoka 3/3. Middle fight: They draw sabers, Ahsoka twirls hers, Ahsoka 3/3. Late fight: Ahsoka sneezes on Luke and he dies, Ahsoka 4/4.
Filoni's biggest problem is inconsistency, Grievous and Ventress are perfect examples. Grievous goes from contending with 3 council masters to being defeated by Gungans while Ventress goes from engaging both Kenobi and Skywalker simultaneously to being unable to kill a 14 year old Padawan.
Wa7chfac3 Historian cannon grievous never fought 3 council members. that was a prototype version of the character before George Lucas finalized his personality.
what would actually happen according to Rian Johnson: -Luke gets sad. -Luke gets depressed. -Luke Squeezes a alien titty. -Luke drinks some alien milk. -Luke sends his force ghost into fight for him. -Dies.
Look, she is basically a Sentinel, with her quick fighting prowess, connected with form IV and starkiller style fighting, with a reverse grip and 2 light sabers.
I personally disagree that Luke fought the better version of Vader. Vader was way past his prime and no amount of force augmentation would get him to the strength and speed during revenge of the sith. And since that is closer to Ahsoka’s fight with Vader it is actually quite obvious that Ashoka faced the more powerful Vader, at least when it came to dueling. Also when it came to dueling abilities Luke was fighting someone with the same form while Ahsoka was fighting her counter form. This shows that Ahsoka has enough skill to hold her own, at least for a while, against her own counter form. Like has not shown this.
I really think the fight would end in a draw, neither managing a definitive win and ending in a truce. Unlike Vader or Anakin, their strength is their compassion, not just combative skill.
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That is correct. Legends Luke was the best/ most powerful Force user and duelist of all time in his prime, cannon Luke beat Vader then immediately lost all credibility as a warrior and leader when he got pwned by a bunch of schmucks lead by a field commander who can't beat a freaking n00b.
I'dve preferred that and here's why: In canon where superpowers are a thing we always see a bad guy get uber god tier powerful but he gets bitched by lesser beings (Star Wars is as guilty of this as well.) And yet people get butthurt when a good guy is that broken powerful. The issue is that you NEED those obscenely powerful characters to tell you how far a Jedi or Sith can go and why people can then find interest in other characters. Essentially every universe needs a Superman and a Darkseid. I for one was quite happy having Luke being the Superman of Star Wars because we know his time is limited and we also know full well that even if he is a one man army, everyone around him is not nor is the planet he on immune to bombardment or getting Death Starred so there are limitations that keep the threat of "he can lose" a very real deal even if sometimes the battles border on the absurd. And I always felt Star Wars got cool when they allowed the Jedi and Sith to just cut loose with their power instead of the more subdued actions of the movies and TV shows. It reminded me in a good way of Japanese shonens like Bleach, Naruto, DBZ, and so on where you can go completely styleized insanity and be invested in just how insane a situation get because Star Wars is ultimately about that morality between light and dark with the rest simply being window dressing. With that in mind, when Star Wars media (novels, comics, KOTOR/SWTOR) allows creators to go there, it becomes awesome. That's my problem with the new canon: It focuses too too much on the things as a fan I really don't give a SHIT about: Gun toting pirates and soldiers shooting dudes in white armor and if you're GENEROUS, a cyborg Sith Lord in a black helmet.
If you ask me, much of legends is just a bunch of bandwagon bullshit so people can hype up canon characters like palpatine and Luke. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of good stuff out there.
Lmao I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the way they're portraying Luke in the new trilogy is meh. Good video. I too am not really sure who'd win, though I'd probably favour Luke due to bias.
Thanks Zaluk ... yeah, of all the things I was looking forward to in the new movies, it was seeing where Luke is now in his life. And then to have him be what he seemingly is now (he has some 'splainin' to in Last Jedi) it saddens me. I really, really like Luke's story in the OT, notably in ESB and ROTJ. Now ... ugh.
You mean the 30 seconds in the force awakens in which he doesn't say a word, the one minute in the TLJ trailer, in which the only big character change we're getting is him thinking it's time for the Jedi to end and Mark Hamill saying he doesn't really like where Luke stands as a character? Yeah, after all this information it's already very easy to determine if what they did with Luke in the sequel trilogy is good or bad. But seriously. Stop over thinking every letter in a statement and wait till you watched the last Jedi to form a proper opinion of him for yourself.
Ashoka would completely overwhelm Luke in the early-fight. Easily a 2-0. Ashoka would use her feigns and acrobatics to quickly slice down a learning Luke. In addition, Luke would be so focused on her lightsaber style that Ashoka could get an opportunity to turn off his blades or disarm him early by way of the force (something Luke has yet to experience). In the mid-fight, I see Ashoka holding a 4-2 lead. She would begin to integrate force based attacks and physical strikes against Luke. This could open up a few opportunities to succeed. However, Luke would begin to tank the physical attacks, using the endurance training by Yoda, but struggle with the force being integrated. After Vader used the force, he moved more methodically against Luke, giving him opportunities to regain composure in their fights. As seen in the Bespin fight, Vader, despite slamming Luke with caroming environmental objects, did not attempt to end Luke when he had the opportunity. On the contrary, Ashoka would chain her force based attacks seamlessly and then immediately pressure or assault Luke before he had time to look up and readjust. Finally, we do not know how Luke would even react to Jar'kai. If her speed wasn't enough to disorientate Luke, her wielding a second blade would amplify the pace of the conflict. In the end-fight, Luke would get an easy 2-0 victory. As a result of the prolonged conflict, her speed and strength behind attacks would be hindered. Luke would deflect nearly all of her attacks while retaliating with heavy, yet quick, strikes that Ashoka could not deal with, as a result of her weakened defenses and flawed Ataru style. The only argument that could be made to downplay Luke in the late fight, would be how he would not yield the same passion and rage he did against Vader in their final fight. Without being tempted with the dark side (and fighting against a holding back Vader), he might not have the same result against Ashoka. I think Ashoka would win. Being forged by the harshest war in all of the Star Wars universe and directly being trained by the most powerful force wielder that existed, has its benefits. Luke would simply be overwhelmed by her speed and integration of both the physical and force attacks. In addition, she has shown the ability to adapt against foes from the quick and speedy, Ventress, to the methodical and powerful, Vader, while Luke simply lacked experience against anything but his father. edit: grammatical and punctuation mistakes
Also the fight isen't fair grown up Asoka vs Luke. Also Luke defeated Vader at a young age. But lets make it a fair fight Adult Asoka vs Adult Luke. Luke would stomp not a single point for Asoka. Adult Luke is the strongest sith/jedi.
If Vader (An even more powerful Dark-Side Anakin) said that Luke was stronger than Anakin. Then Ahsoka would not win. But i'm not saying she'll get man-handled around. It would be a close battle.
Very happy since Ahsoka rarely seems to win. I've always found her to be a much more interesting character than Luke. He's easier to identify and sympathize with I guess but still not as interesting in my humble opinion.
Another great video as always, especially since this features arguably the two greatest heroes in all of Star Wars. I'm also happy that Ahsoka won (since she's my all-time favourite Star Wars character), but I definitely think Luke is good enough that this would be a close match.
Okay so this is actually a tough one for me as well I feel like this is what I like to refer to as a Batman situation. If this were not a singular fight to the death Luke could probably come back and kick her ass but in a one-on-one fight with both of them trying to end each other I think Ahsoka wins due to a combination of her fighting style and overall personality she's more willing to kill someone then Luke is. now that said regardless of whether this is round 1 round 2 or singular fight to the death it's going to be a rough fight for both of them
At first my gut reaction went to Luke, but that was mostly because I'm so used to the plot armor being in favor of Skywalkers. If you pretend they're both no-name characters, I agree on Ahsoka's VERY narrow victory
Also guys think about this the original trilogy was made on the 80s so they could do as many flips but in a cartoon they can make it look like a better fight
None of this is based on movie choreography. This is all based within the lore, notably the word of George Lucas who distinctly says the PT-era Jedi were the prime while Ben Kenobi, Vader and Luke were not. That said, I would not consider Ahsoka one of the prime Jedi. I would place her below the Kenobi tier, who is below the Dooku tier, who is below the Yoda tier.
Luke is actually 5'9. Anakin on the other hand was 6'0 at the time of AOTC but during the Clone Wars was 6'1 as noted by multiple TCW sources. In the ROTS novelization Mace notes how Anakin had grown as Anakin was now 6'2.
TheNuisanceBird I thought Anakin was 6'1 and Obi was 5'11 or 6'0. Ahsoka for sure isnt 6'1 thats just her head crown. She is like 5'8 or 5'9. Which is okay im like a bit taller than her
That was awesome. Great timing on this matchup since the mobile game, Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes, is about to release an adult (Fulcrum) Ahsoka, with the highly anticipated Jedi Luke expected real soon.
Ahsoka now has more feats from season 7 plus the fact that as strong as Luke is Ahsoka has years and years more training than Luke which I think means Ahsoka takes this fight overall. Though like everyone else I love the idea of these two just being friends xp
Thank the lord you didn't use God-tier-Luke-knows-everything legends version. Using experienced Ahsoka and the still new but gifted prodigy Luke was a good match up, I honestly leaned toward Luke but I see how Ahsoka could've blitzed him with speed and experience. I'm glad Snips got the win this round. She earned it.
Personally, I think Luke has the edge due to his insane reflexes and speed tracking. I don’t think Luke’s feat against non-force sensitives makes him any less impressive, he’s got way too good reflexes
honestly id like to see a revised version of this that would take account what we've seen of Luke in the Mandalorian and the fact that its him and not Ahsoka that's been training grogu. i dont really see why they would ever fight each other, but its kind of cool to speculate about where they stand against each other in there of dueling, force and physical abilities. yes Ahsoka got more experience but i still like to think that based on this video that Luke would eventually endure Ahsoka's attacks and win against her in the end
I feel like the two would just going to a draw at least based on their characters. Would totally like to see Revan vs Anakin. The Prodigal Knight vs the Chosen One.
@@owen69xx28 hes listed as 6'2. Hayden doesnt equal anakin. Chewbaca actor is 7 ft but chewie is listed as 7'7. Same goes for the silver chick from ep 8 etc. Actors dont protray height
Bravo, man. Let me just say, Antoine as a long-time subscriber, this matchup is easily one of my favorites you have done. And I have to give props to DuduFilm for helping you. You two should do more collaborations. :) Thematically, I love this battle due to how similar, yet different the two are. As for a verdict, I can understand how difficult this could be. And I do agree with you. Luke clearly did not experience Jar Kai dual blades. And while I am confident he could adapt to it, I do not think at the point he was at where he could have adapted as fast. Give us say Luke a few years down the line and in is prime, that is a different story. Also, I always pegged Ahsoka's style as like a leaf blowing in the wind. She always met power and force by deflecting it, circumventing it and getting in critical attacks. And with Luke, while I see him adapting to Ahsoka's style, her experience at the end of the day was going to get her through due to having fought a myriad of opponents during war time. Luke, simply put, did have a hard battle. But against one(arguably two, if you include the Emperor) enemy. A VERY powerful enemy, but still that conditioning and fighting tunnel vision are evident.
I heard you changed your original verdict, like, hours ago. I would have gone with that original verdict personally but I do understand how folks would neglect to consider how difficult it would be for Luke to adapt to Ahsoka when all his dueling experiences revolved around Vader.
I honestly think this is your greatest vs video yet! I agree that this is very much a coin toss, and I'm glad it didn't end in a tie. This was a great matchup. Keep up the great work!
This is one of your finest video that you have made Antione. 2 Characters are evenly match makes this even more interesting. Also, the intro is truly magnificent.
Cant believe I'm this late to this video. Love the intro btw! As for your mini rant, its very on point. Though if we are basing this on the EU, Vader >Anakin. I do agree that Ahsoka's unorthodox approach (at least from Luke's perspective) does give her an initial logistic advantage against Luke. To me, I think Ahsoka takes this due to superior application of force abilities and physicality. But your right, this one is a coin toss.
Wow, dude. This must have been your hardest breakdown to recent date. Very informative, I'm impressed. While I honestly would have like Luke to win, I have to say, you are very spot-on with Ahsoka's analysis. Very hard to disagree with, I must admit. You're right, this fight really is a toss-up.
I listened to all of this, and it truly feels like it just screamed one thing "Plot Armor". Be it Vader, Anakin, or Luke. Luke *is* adaptable, but has always lacked the ability to finish things, as you said he uses compassion. You also mentioned Aikido, in my personal opinion, a person with 2 blades, force abilities, more experience, sleight of hand tactics mixed with speed *and* the note that she uses her enemies inertia against them, hence you have stated multiple times that Luke and Anakin both use *power* strikes. I love the Skywalker's as much as the next guy, but in practicality I truly see her skill set to be above both of them. However, I never agreed with the idea of Vader being a better duelist than Anakin, he was a hell of a lot slower and had to rely on the force imo to make up for his loss of mobility, though I feel his spanking for his prior arrogance did teach him to respect his opponents to some degree. Just an opinion, and only because I felt that your descriptions spelled out a clear win for Ashoka by the fact that she used more than enough tactics to get the job done as well as her entire style was the antithesis of their fighting style, unless Luke refrained from that and shifted into defense, which even then I do believe misdirection and her various methods as a whole would prevail, unless plot armor were to take effect.
Vader had the power and experience to back him... Luke... Until his potential is reached like in legends...Yeah she would dominate him, not without a fight, but still.
I think overall I agree. I think in the early fight Ashoka's speed and duel saber technique would give Luke a hard time... and if Ashoka scored a hit before Luke can adapt... well... that's it.
See what I don’t get is why he gives luke so much credit when it come to lightsaber dueling and adaptability. He had to fight Vader before and lost before he was able to adapt. So while he was able to adapt eventually he never showed enough skill to adapt fast enough to turn the tides in a single duel. So with ahsoka’s own style being so fast paced and aggressive I don’t see him being able to adapt at all in that first fight to have a probable chance of winning. I would give ahsoka a 7/10 advantage with the first fight. But if they fought again I could see this videos conclusion coming out. Being a 5/10 split and a much closer fight.
Another awesome video. Although I think it would end in the late fight, as Luke knows how to make a fight last, even when he's at the disadvantage. Coupling that with his unnatural ability to adapt mid-fight, I see Luke winning against Ashoka.
Wow Antoine! And to think that about 6 months ago I thought your videos couldn't get any better. But Yoda vs Revan (as "obvious" as it was) and this one have really surpassed your past videos. With the "new" intros and the variation of music you've made your videos feel like more than just a half hour rant. Nice work, Antoine, and I agree that Ahsoka would win.
I feel like the version of Luke that you're using in this matchup would be unable to stand ground to a fast paced warrior like Ahsoka. I think she has grown more during her time in hiding then you give her credit as she could easily keep toe to toe against 2 inquisitors. Luke on the other hand was on the verge of falling to the dark side when he defeated Vader. Against Ahsoka we can assume this will not be the case. The way I think this would play out is Ahsoka being able to get some distance between her and Luke, then sprinting towards him, leaping at him with incredible speed. Luke saw her coming and raises his lightsaber in defence, blocking the attacks of both of her lightsabers. As she jumps over him, she kicks him in his back as hard as she can and he falls to the floor. He quickly gets up and turns around as his lightsaber is pushed out of his hand by a precise force push. He taps into the force and reaches for his lightsaber. During this small flaw in his focus on Ahsoka, Ahsoka (not going in for the kill) cuts of his robotic arm and slices the lightsaber hilt (still flying towards Luke) in half with her other blade. Luke falls to his knees and shrieks in pain. Ahsoka knocks him out with the hilt of her lightsaber (not killing him) This is how I think the fight would have played out hope you like it.
I don't think the inquisitorius should be underestimated. These dark side users were specifically trained to hunt force users. And the ones hunting former jedi are supposedly the most dangerous inquisitors. If you were to consider EU as well (where they appear definitely more powerfull than the way they are portrayed so far in canon) then taking on two at the same time and easily defeating them as well should be considered to be a display of great skill in fighting against other lightsaber duelists. I must admit that I'm probably underestimating the time Luke spent training with Yoda though. Anyway I don't mean to hate on your video or anything, I loved it. (and I love that you actively respond to comments like these)
Merorevan i agree totally with you in Rebels we can see how strong she is i mean she fighted with Darth Maul (a extrem powerfull sith) but she had a good chance to kill him.
Good analysis ... but this presupposes that there would have to be an important reason for them to battle each other in the first place. I see it as Ahsoka succumbing to the dark side (Snoke? Palpatine?) as her anger over what happened with Vader drives her. If this was the case, she would try to finish Luke off quickly and use any type of tactics necessary. She learned from some of the best - Grievous, Ventress, Maul - and held her own. Luke's in serious trouble. The one I think that would have handled her mano a mano would be Dooku, who possessed true mastery of the saber. Mace Windu also would be more than a match, but Luke, not so much.
We don't know of Luke is on the verge of going to the dark side after ROTJ according to new canon. But what we know is he is as powerful or more powerful than his father. A gifted duelist and force user. Everyone wants Luke weak now and not knowing what he is doing or on the verge of the dark side. This is why I dislike Luke's character development in the new franchise ownership. I can see him beating Ahsoka in canon and as a legends character. He quickly adapts to an opponents style and is very powerful in the force, quick witted.
I agreed with the verdict, but like you said it's definitely not a definitive win. It really could go either way. Ashoka had far more training, fought a more diverse group of enemies, is a war veteran and has a fighting style Luke has never seen before. But on the other hand, Luke learned from three of some of the greatest Jedi and Sith in history, could adapted to situations quickly, was quick and dealt powerful blows, etc etc. This actually gives me a headache to think about, it really can go either way. Of course if you want to throw in Luke's God powers from Legends he would win without any real arguments. He would probably win literally any fight if God-Luke was walking around and that'd be soooo freaking boring.
Luke won his fight with Vader, because Vader could not kill his own son. Vader could also not kill his own apprentice. Neither one actually faced Vader's full skill set or determination.
Actually vader was not conflicted about ahsoka he wanted her dead as she represented his past and the jedi. Where as luke was a new beginning and was conflicted.
@@shane2077 And thats the reason why she basicly lost her fight and was saved by plot in last season of rebels,... Luke was played by Vader in cloud city, if not that he would be viped out faster then she was. If not that he woudnt have chance to adapt to Vader style of fencing,... Main problem of Ashoka is, she didnt realy win against any noted force user (not counting those inquisitors rly, even for those no killing blows. realy?). She could conted for a while, but didnt end match, not to mention didnt end it early - whitch is time spam of supremecy in this matchup.
@@marianmarkovic5881 her fight against Vader she didnt really lose in a normal way. Initially vader force pushed her off the edge but ahsoka landed the first push on vader and hs wasnt near an edge. But it's obvious that hers pushed him farther away and at the actaul end to the fight ahsoka was attempting to sacrafice herself to save vader. She may have been on the defense for a large part of the battle but she didnt really lose.
This is one hell of an opening. By the way, I took one look at the title of this video and immediately though Luke would curb stomp Ahsoka. Then I saw you where using him only up to Return of the Jedi, and was happy to see that this would actually be a fight.
4:32 This is where we refer to the EU, in which not only did Luke succeed in rebuilding the Jedi, but that Jedi Order withstood countless trials and crisis for over a century.
Matthew White yes!! Luke was bad ass and even in defeat he still stayed by his family, maintained the Jedi order and was successful. That is the Luke I grew up knowing.
Rex was right: Experience _does_ outrank everything. In this case, Ahsoka's fights with the likes of Asajj Ventress, Grievous, Barriss Offee, the Inquisitors, and Darths Maul and Vader would've given her a good idea on what to expect against Luke. Of course, the fight wouldn't have been this fierce if Ahsoka and Luke actually became friends. She knew his father back in the Clone Wars. Perhaps their shared experiences with Anakin/Vader could reduce this fight to a mere sparring session. Luke would've gained at least one more Master, this one bringing in the unorthodox. Meanwhile, this is one close match-up I wouldn't wanna miss. Keep up the good work, Antoine.
Yes, Ahsoka for life! I would love it if Ahsoka helped Luke rebuild the Jedi Order. It makes so much sense when you think about it with all her knowledge, experience.
Thank you for doing my suggestion, I do also think it would be very close but by a very small margin, I have to go with Luke because of his raw force power and as you said, the longer it goes on, the greater advantage Luke has; and I certainly don't see this ending quickly... so battered and bruised, I personally believe Luke would win. Still, great video! :)
I personally have some disagreements with your statements regarding the "late fight". While Luke would become used to Ahsoka's fighting style, the same could be said regarding Ahsoka learning how Luke fights. Ahsoka also has vastly more combative experience in terms of light-saber duels as she has fought both jedi, and those like Ventress and Grievous on a regular occasion. Luke (by the end of Return of the Jedi) has only had serious duels with Vader and no one else. Ahsoka has proven that she can and will use tactics in the middle of the fight in order to expose her enemy, such as when she taunted the Seventh Sister and ended up disarming her. Sadly we don't have showings of Ahsoka "finishing" her more serious duels with Maul and Vader. Her fights with the inquisitors showed her fighting quite passively, or she flat out destroyed them. I do see Ahsoka's stamina slowly failing her towards the end of the fight, but it is very likely that she would have ended the fight by then, if not cause Luke to fight more passively.
Just going by each fighter's skill and ability coupled with experience, this fight is decisive for Ahsoka, but giving Luke that same combative experience and training with his talents being on the level of his father, he would take this without much fuss.
What do you mean about the late fight scenario forcing Luke to fight more passive, hes like Anakin he dosent get tired when fighting as his force reserves are effectivly limitless and such the longer the fight goes on, the more of an advantage he gains
This was an awesome video, man! I think I watched it before but sometimes you can't fully appreciate these things until you've watched them a few times. It's really hard to judge the legacy character's actual skill levels due to the limitations of when the original movies were made. According to the novelization, Vader got better (somehow) between Episodes IV and VI yet he is still slower and much less refined of a fighter than what we've seen in canonical things that occurred BEFORE Episode IV (like Rogue One and Rebels). The books and context of the fights would have us believe that we are seeing something truly epic but what I actually SAW wasn't super impressive so I honestly don't know how to call it. Really, I think I need to see some new canonical showing of Luke fighting against other force sensitives post Episode VI (but not super far into the future) to get an idea of how good of a fighter he's supposed to be in canon. Seeing him in Episode 8 won't necessarily do anything as this will be "Old Luke" and we want to know how truly great he was in his prime.
Luke wins, because Luke has the largest net advantage per round. Round one: Ahsoka only has 1-0 lead, so +1, unlikely for a victory there Round two: Ashoka has 3-2 lead, so +1, unlikely victory Round three, Luke 3-1 lead, +2, more likely victory. While Ashoka could win the early fight, her chances are much lower at winning the early or mid fight than Luke's are for winning the late fight. However, it is possible for Ashoka to win, just not as likely as Luke's.
Hah, not exactly the comment/commentary I was looking for. I wouldn't look into the numbers that hard. I'm more interested in likelihoods within the certain sections of fights than the splitting of numbers.
Also you can not fairly decide weather Luke or Ahsoka is more powerful through their battle with Darth Vader as Ahsoka was holding back. Ahsoka did not want to kill her old master, Anikan was like a big brother to her, but Luke has never really met Vader properly so he does not care if Vader dies.
If Luke Skywalker fought Ahsoka Tano in a one-on-one confrontation. Who would come out on top?
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Rex : In my book experience outranks everything
Ahsoka : Then I definitely outrank you .
Antoine Bandele luke will win
Antoine Bandele who would win: obi wan from episode 3 or ashoka from rebels?
obi wan {high ground} would not work for rebels ahsoka
Antoine Bandele Last thing Ahsoka now fights for revenge Luke fights for all and for good he is not fighting for himself so could this cloud Ahsokas judgement with only one goal in mind which would make fights against her easier
Luke: Who are you?
Ahsoka: I'm the first padawan of Anakin Sky-
Luke: WHY DOES NOBODY TELL ME ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMFAO
Hahaha
Ahsoka: _visibly shaken_
Lmaooo
ikr im am your father no its not treu episode 6 yoda is he my father episode 4 does she mean ben kenobi ben kenobi obiwan ofcourse i know im its me rly o and i forget he luke you know leia you know the one you kissed suprise she is your sister did i forget something else pls let me know
I don't believe this. I'm going for ending 3: Ashoka adopts Luke and takes him out for blue milk ice cream.
Super Brad agreed
*Love this!*
Super Brad yes!!!
Ayy fellow blue milk reader
It depends if it's from a male or female bantha.
"Then, I will avenge his death."
"Revenge is not the Jedi way"
" *BOI I LEFT* Im no Jedi..."
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Lmaooooo “boi I left” 😭😂😂😂
I feel like they would just become friends
-how's your father?
-he cut off my hand
-ow, Anakin's always been a little nervous
True, I feel like if this happens, it would be just Ahsoka training Luke better.
So ahsoka is to nice to fight him Is where I'm getting at
That’s a what if they met, this is a what if they fought to the death
@@generalwarhammer9722 who do you think would win👀😳
Ahsoka befriends Luke and she trains him, that's how I want it to end.
This would probably be what would happen if they did meet.
Same that would be awesome and believable
How would she train him? He knows more about the force than her. Received training from kenobi and yoda. And also rebuilds the Jedi order and becomes centered in the force
@@dukejohnson1956 I don't think he knows more about the force in rotj. Ahsoka has learned from Anakin,Obi-Wan,Plo-Koon, and Yoda
@@xavidotnet are they meeting during ROTJ? That’s what I wasn’t sure about. In ROTJ Luke would lose I agree, I just think by say the mandalorian timeline Luke is likely more proficient in the force
Not gonna lie... that intro from DuduFilm brought tears to my eyes... absolutely, jaw-droppingly beautiful. This is a very hard match to call, but I agree with you, I might give the slight edge to Ahsoka. It could easily go either way though.
Literally 24 hours ago I had Luke winning. (I think you can still hear it in pieces of my analysis)
ForklifterMatt same to me, two favourite characters in Star Wars. Brought a tear to my eye
Antoine Bandele how did you change your mind
Dido pure tears.
I agree that this match would be a toss up as both are extremely talented but I feel that Ahsoka is a tad underrated as a duelist and contender as a whole. I mean she dueled Maul(oh you know, the guy who contended against DARTH SIDIOUS) to a standstill when she was 17. That's extremely young to be dueling a seasoned MASTER who has killed many other Jedi but she's had a long time to grow since then, her abilities were insane when she was a teenager so honestly she is amazing now. And again in her fights with the inquisitors she beat them in like 2 minutes. That's a really short time for a duel especially since she overcame them so easily. And again she is underrated in her fight with Vader. She is fighting him in a place that is extremely charged with the dark side and after their duel Vader is shown to be heavily injured, limping away from the temple. But another thing that you tend to overlook is Ahsoka's key attribute. Her real strength is her precision, not her speed. In TCW it was her staple mark but she has grown since then and has continued to incorporate it into her style yet now her staple is her precision. In her duels with the inquisitors and Maul she is shown to fight quickly yet her precision is what wins the day against the inquisitors. And in her duel with Maul(which we didn't see finished) she's matching him quickly yet each blow from him has a counter attack from her and you can see her pushing him back. Ahsoka has become a much more powerful and balanced dueler than she is given credit for.
RH102 Maul didn't contend with Sidious. He was toying with him the whole time. Did you see his face? He was laughing like a madman the whole time. Maul was nowhere near good enough to actually fight Sidious.
Regifloat hm idk I was just watching it and definitely overall Sidious was toying with him but at a few parts Maul was definitely surprising Sidious. And even if I'm wrong about that in TCW's drafts for some of the later episodes Ahsoka came into contact with Siddious and survived with no injuries, something very few if any have ever done.
RH102 You're right. Sidious was toying at first. But when Savage died, Maul was going all in. Even Sidious was surprised and started trying just a bit. A challenge that he could still beat though. And after that he ends it with the force.
Thank you - finally someone pointed out the obvious. One of the measures of how a fight went is the condition of the combatants when it ends. Vader gets his mask cut (I thought he needed it to breathe) and walks away limping, while Ahsoka is shown walking upright back into the temple. I disagree completely with the idea that the Vader that Luke beat was anything like in his prime. That was almost 25 years on from his near death on Mustafar at the hands of Obi-Wan and the obvious defects that Palpatine built into the suit he crafted for him (to keep him from mounting an effective overthrow should that possibility arise).
No question that the symbol of SW is the distinctive mask of Darth Vader but it's amazing how popular Ahsoka has become. Many movie fans (like myself) missed the CW series (due to disdain over watching animation) the first time around but now are discovering its brilliance. And Ahsoka is at the heart of it. With the new series focusing on a female lead (Rey), more women and girls are now big SW fans and Ahsoka is their gal. Disney cannot imaginably fail to take advantage and do something more with her.
sensey07 I agree. Ahsoka dealt Vader a major blow in the fight, and its unlikely that he was just as strong as he was in his prime. After watching the video which explains that Vader got stronger over time in the original trilogy I think Ahsoka's fight explains why it appears that is the case. Its possible that Ahsoka dealt such major injuries to Vader during the fight that he had to get a new suit and recover from his injuries. That would have taken time and from what I recall Star Wars Rebels isn't long before the original trilogy (though I admit I don't know exactly how long it was before the movies) but I think that its possible that it wasn't so much the fact that he was getting stronger or that he was in his prime, but that he was finally recovering from his injuries and regaining some of the power he used to have.
Luke had a strong force power called plot defence strongest of them all you cant be killed only injured but ashoka was removable but stronger one and she can't kill vader becaose of plot defence
Barriss Offee wrong name and pic you have ,you traitor
It's fun because nowadays Ashoka is still defended by plot armor and portrayed as the most powerful and wise force user, while Luke is dead after being portrayed as weak and coward.
@@obi-wankenobi8406 The high ground is the strongest force power
If the two met, Ahsoka would be the level of Master while Luke is just starting to be a Knight.
Luke was pretty bad as a Jedi its pretty unrealistic how he beat Vader in return of Jedi
@@Unbrickme Vader wasnt trying to kill luke. He was trying to see his power. Also he was conflicted at the time. If vader was going 100% he would have killed luke easily
@@plugmanjohnson7456 even in return of the Jedi?
@@Unbrickme Yes. If Luke wasnt vaders son vader would have easily killed luke
@@Unbrickme the force works in mysterious ways...
Third option. They don’t fight instead Ahsoka tells Luke stories about Anakin and they just chill out.
I just want to let you know that I'm truly truly grateful for this video and all the work you put into this Star Wars is my favorite show and you put together Luke and Ahsoka two of my favorite characters that I have wonder about if they had ever fought. I'm thankful for your hard work truly thankful please keep up the best work you deliver to us.
Thanks Squad, much appreciated.
I Honestly cant decide on who the victor should be imo. The specific circumstance of the fight and the environment would decide this
i say they both faint due to exhaustion
Fuck-A-Doodle-Do! that's very likely. But but if that's the case I gotta give it to Luke. I don't see asohka winning in a battle of endurance
I think the fight would finish very quickly. Ashoka's fighting style is to different from anything Luke has ever seen before. Ashoka would definitely press the advantage and finish the fight quickly before he adapted, especially if she knew he was skilled enough to defeat Vader.
The very fact that this is a debate just shows how much the fans really love Ahsoka and that just makes me so happy.
And what about my Master Luke, does people like him anymore. Seems like his skills decrease each year disney owning star wars
disney can't put luke anywhere near his legends version otherwise the sequel trilogy couldn't happen@@filipfilmicexperience
@@dadsback69 In my opinion they've should already dropped them off "cannon" instead of trying to make them sense.
If Togrutas could sense people around them.
When Anakin stabbed Shaak Ti. Why didn't she just run or something?
Yep.
Kinda late, but, idk if they sense the motives or emotions of those people. When she was killed, Anakin was still a brand new convert and nobody really knew of his betrayal and malicious intent until it was too late. She could have sensed Anakin walking up and thought of it as nothing more than a visit, or seeking counsel.
Why she didn’t run or something? The answer is simple they had to kill the Jedi so they mainly showed them killing off the council.
They (the writers and such) play fast and loose with this, or just ignore it
Because it is Anakin she knew he was there, but she didn't know what was going on. She does say, "What is it Skywalker?"
Dave Filoni would give Ahsoka a 10/0 advantage.
I wouldn't be surprised. Filoni is a nice fella but some of his creative decisions ... ehhhh
Antoine Bandele Early fight: Ahsoka & Luke stare at each other, Ahsoka 3/3. Middle fight: They draw sabers, Ahsoka twirls hers, Ahsoka 3/3. Late fight: Ahsoka sneezes on Luke and he dies, Ahsoka 4/4.
Filoni's biggest problem is inconsistency, Grievous and Ventress are perfect examples. Grievous goes from contending with 3 council masters to being defeated by Gungans while Ventress goes from engaging both Kenobi and Skywalker simultaneously to being unable to kill a 14 year old Padawan.
I like Filoni for the most part, but he does suffer from character favoritism a lot
Wa7chfac3 Historian
cannon grievous never fought 3 council members. that was a prototype version of the character before George Lucas finalized his personality.
4:20 "...and then miserablely failing"
well played antoine
what would actually happen according to Rian Johnson:
-Luke gets sad.
-Luke gets depressed.
-Luke Squeezes a alien titty.
-Luke drinks some alien milk.
-Luke sends his force ghost into fight for him.
-Dies.
Tyson Baxter Luke might Sexually Harrass Ahsoka by licking on her Lekku to see if an Orange Milk comes out of it.
Look, she is basically a Sentinel, with her quick fighting prowess, connected with form IV and starkiller style fighting, with a reverse grip and 2 light sabers.
I personally disagree that Luke fought the better version of Vader. Vader was way past his prime and no amount of force augmentation would get him to the strength and speed during revenge of the sith. And since that is closer to Ahsoka’s fight with Vader it is actually quite obvious that Ashoka faced the more powerful Vader, at least when it came to dueling. Also when it came to dueling abilities Luke was fighting someone with the same form while Ahsoka was fighting her counter form. This shows that Ahsoka has enough skill to hold her own, at least for a while, against her own counter form. Like has not shown this.
Also I think we can all agree that if Luke wanted to kill Vader he probably could've.
@@adambump5297 no! I disagree! your theory is so false in many many ways!
@@savioshirleyalmeida *correct in so many ways
@@adambump5297 maybe, but I think that Vader was holding back
@@Justaguywithfax I could argue the same of Luke.
I really think the fight would end in a draw, neither managing a definitive win and ending in a truce. Unlike Vader or Anakin, their strength is their compassion, not just combative skill.
Congrats on a beautiful video , it was a pleasure working with you!
May The Force Serve You Well
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Phenomenal job as always Dudu!
Moi je dirais à soccer pas parce que vous avez vu comment elle maîtrise son sabre à la base elle a battu à Labatut 2 inquisiteur le le cinquième frère et la septième sœur je crois qu'elle mérite sa place entre les meilleurs Jedi et Luke est devenu Jedi parce que il a battu le seigneur Vador Yoda et Obi-Wan et Obi-Wan on dit si il battait Vador il serait un chevalier Jedi
If you don't mind my asking what's the song you used for that intro. It's epic as hell and I'd love to know where I can get it.
@@MrEffectfilms same I've been looking since this video first came out and have never found it
so, pure legends Luke wins?
since most of us here seem to care more about legends...
That is correct. Legends Luke was the best/ most powerful Force user and duelist of all time in his prime, cannon Luke beat Vader then immediately lost all credibility as a warrior and leader when he got pwned by a bunch of schmucks lead by a field commander who can't beat a freaking n00b.
I don't think so. Legends/Canon Luke up until ROTJ are virtually the same.
There are supplementary stories in Legends that paint both Luke and Vader as much stronger than what Canon does.
xXStretcHXx Legends Luke would Absolutely Destroy Ashoka, especially post Yuuzhong Vong Invasion Luke
Legends Luke would solo the sith order bro.
If we took in the first canon (or Legends) then Luke would have like the most unfair advantage EVAR!
I'dve preferred that and here's why:
In canon where superpowers are a thing we always see a bad guy get uber god tier powerful but he gets bitched by lesser beings (Star Wars is as guilty of this as well.) And yet people get butthurt when a good guy is that broken powerful. The issue is that you NEED those obscenely powerful characters to tell you how far a Jedi or Sith can go and why people can then find interest in other characters. Essentially every universe needs a Superman and a Darkseid. I for one was quite happy having Luke being the Superman of Star Wars because we know his time is limited and we also know full well that even if he is a one man army, everyone around him is not nor is the planet he on immune to bombardment or getting Death Starred so there are limitations that keep the threat of "he can lose" a very real deal even if sometimes the battles border on the absurd.
And I always felt Star Wars got cool when they allowed the Jedi and Sith to just cut loose with their power instead of the more subdued actions of the movies and TV shows. It reminded me in a good way of Japanese shonens like Bleach, Naruto, DBZ, and so on where you can go completely styleized insanity and be invested in just how insane a situation get because Star Wars is ultimately about that morality between light and dark with the rest simply being window dressing. With that in mind, when Star Wars media (novels, comics, KOTOR/SWTOR) allows creators to go there, it becomes awesome. That's my problem with the new canon: It focuses too too much on the things as a fan I really don't give a SHIT about: Gun toting pirates and soldiers shooting dudes in white armor and if you're GENEROUS, a cyborg Sith Lord in a black helmet.
If you ask me, much of legends is just a bunch of bandwagon bullshit so people can hype up canon characters like palpatine and Luke. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of good stuff out there.
Seeing these two meet in any way shape or form. Would be the best thing ever
This outcome makes sense. Luke's adaptability to Ahsoka Tano's novel style is too speculative.
There was only one person Luke truly feared, that was Luke.
Lmao I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the way they're portraying Luke in the new trilogy is meh. Good video. I too am not really sure who'd win, though I'd probably favour Luke due to bias.
Thanks Zaluk ... yeah, of all the things I was looking forward to in the new movies, it was seeing where Luke is now in his life. And then to have him be what he seemingly is now (he has some 'splainin' to in Last Jedi) it saddens me. I really, really like Luke's story in the OT, notably in ESB and ROTJ. Now ... ugh.
Zaluk I agree that they made Luke weaker than his legends character. All I grew up knowing Luke as is now being destroyed.
You mean the 30 seconds in the force awakens in which he doesn't say a word, the one minute in the TLJ trailer, in which the only big character change we're getting is him thinking it's time for the Jedi to end and Mark Hamill saying he doesn't really like where Luke stands as a character? Yeah, after all this information it's already very easy to determine if what they did with Luke in the sequel trilogy is good or bad.
But seriously. Stop over thinking every letter in a statement and wait till you watched the last Jedi to form a proper opinion of him for yourself.
Ashoka would completely overwhelm Luke in the early-fight. Easily a 2-0. Ashoka would use her feigns and acrobatics to quickly slice down a learning Luke. In addition, Luke would be so focused on her lightsaber style that Ashoka could get an opportunity to turn off his blades or disarm him early by way of the force (something Luke has yet to experience).
In the mid-fight, I see Ashoka holding a 4-2 lead. She would begin to integrate force based attacks and physical strikes against Luke. This could open up a few opportunities to succeed. However, Luke would begin to tank the physical attacks, using the endurance training by Yoda, but struggle with the force being integrated. After Vader used the force, he moved more methodically against Luke, giving him opportunities to regain composure in their fights. As seen in the Bespin fight, Vader, despite slamming Luke with caroming environmental objects, did not attempt to end Luke when he had the opportunity. On the contrary, Ashoka would chain her force based attacks seamlessly and then immediately pressure or assault Luke before he had time to look up and readjust. Finally, we do not know how Luke would even react to Jar'kai. If her speed wasn't enough to disorientate Luke, her wielding a second blade would amplify the pace of the conflict.
In the end-fight, Luke would get an easy 2-0 victory. As a result of the prolonged conflict, her speed and strength behind attacks would be hindered. Luke would deflect nearly all of her attacks while retaliating with heavy, yet quick, strikes that Ashoka could not deal with, as a result of her weakened defenses and flawed Ataru style. The only argument that could be made to downplay Luke in the late fight, would be how he would not yield the same passion and rage he did against Vader in their final fight. Without being tempted with the dark side (and fighting against a holding back Vader), he might not have the same result against Ashoka.
I think Ashoka would win. Being forged by the harshest war in all of the Star Wars universe and directly being trained by the most powerful force wielder that existed, has its benefits. Luke would simply be overwhelmed by her speed and integration of both the physical and force attacks. In addition, she has shown the ability to adapt against foes from the quick and speedy, Ventress, to the methodical and powerful, Vader, while Luke simply lacked experience against anything but his father.
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Shane That's true and he forgot she fought Maul twice.
Luke would beat her
Gotta put it put there! Luke defeated Darth Vader, Ashoka woulden't stand a chance against Luke.
Also the fight isen't fair grown up Asoka vs Luke. Also Luke defeated Vader at a young age. But lets make it a fair fight Adult Asoka vs Adult Luke. Luke would stomp not a single point for Asoka. Adult Luke is the strongest sith/jedi.
If Vader (An even more powerful Dark-Side Anakin) said that Luke was stronger than Anakin. Then Ahsoka would not win. But i'm not saying she'll get man-handled around. It would be a close battle.
“And then miserably failing *big sigh*” 😂😂😂 hilarious! He didn’t fail though.
I asked two of my friends who would win this fight and both could not decide
It’s really tough. Effectively a tie in my eyes.
Very happy since Ahsoka rarely seems to win. I've always found her to be a much more interesting character than Luke. He's easier to identify and sympathize with I guess but still not as interesting in my humble opinion.
Rarely wins? Does no one pay attention to these match ups?
Apparently not. All the match ups I remember Ahsoka being in she lost most of them.
She won against Vos, Grand Inquisitor, and in a 3 way she was a second best between Anakin and Kenobi
Jackman LeBlanc agreeable
Jackman LeBlanc well Ahsoka is canon in both legends and Disney so too bad.
Another great video as always, especially since this features arguably the two greatest heroes in all of Star Wars. I'm also happy that Ahsoka won (since she's my all-time favourite Star Wars character), but I definitely think Luke is good enough that this would be a close match.
Thanks Sherman.
Okay so this is actually a tough one for me as well I feel like this is what I like to refer to as a Batman situation.
If this were not a singular fight to the death Luke could probably come back and kick her ass but in a one-on-one fight with both of them trying to end each other I think Ahsoka wins due to a combination of her fighting style and overall personality she's more willing to kill someone then Luke is.
now that said regardless of whether this is round 1 round 2 or singular fight to the death it's going to be a rough fight for both of them
At first my gut reaction went to Luke, but that was mostly because I'm so used to the plot armor being in favor of Skywalkers. If you pretend they're both no-name characters, I agree on Ahsoka's VERY narrow victory
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Will do!
Also guys think about this the original trilogy was made on the 80s so they could do as many flips but in a cartoon they can make it look like a better fight
None of this is based on movie choreography. This is all based within the lore, notably the word of George Lucas who distinctly says the PT-era Jedi were the prime while Ben Kenobi, Vader and Luke were not. That said, I would not consider Ahsoka one of the prime Jedi. I would place her below the Kenobi tier, who is below the Dooku tier, who is below the Yoda tier.
Luke's weapon was compassion.
TLJ: hold me beer #notmylukeskywalker
That intro is spectacular, that it pertains to two of my favorite Star Wars characters is just a bonus
The apprentice vs the son
You just earned a sub! Though I feel like from all your videos you favor people over me! p.s im 5'8 not 5'6!
Luke is actually 5'9.
Anakin on the other hand was 6'0 at the time of AOTC but during the Clone Wars was 6'1 as noted by multiple TCW sources. In the ROTS novelization Mace notes how Anakin had grown as Anakin was now 6'2.
TheNuisanceBird I thought Anakin was 6'1 and Obi was 5'11 or 6'0. Ahsoka for sure isnt 6'1 thats just her head crown. She is like 5'8 or 5'9. Which is okay im like a bit taller than her
Mistype on the video. I meant to list Luke as 5'8 (Mark Hamill's height) which is why I say she's five inches taller.
i love luke
Luke Skywalker lol
That was awesome. Great timing on this matchup since the mobile game, Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes, is about to release an adult (Fulcrum) Ahsoka, with the highly anticipated Jedi Luke expected real soon.
Ah snap. I tried playing that game for a day, but it didn't do it for me unfortunately :-(
When you sighed at the end of Luke's bio I was like yep that sums me up as well
Ahsoka now has more feats from season 7 plus the fact that as strong as Luke is Ahsoka has years and years more training than Luke which I think means Ahsoka takes this fight overall.
Though like everyone else I love the idea of these two just being friends xp
No Luke would win he beat Vader and in rebels Ashoka would’ve been beat if Ezra didn’t save her
@@lucas_10dj55 wrong
@@lucas_10dj55 Vader was not going at his full power. He was conflicted, and Luke had to use the darkside to overcome him.
@The EmeralKing Nah. According to Filoni, Vader wanted to kill Ahsoka.
Thank the lord you didn't use God-tier-Luke-knows-everything legends version. Using experienced Ahsoka and the still new but gifted prodigy Luke was a good match up, I honestly leaned toward Luke but I see how Ahsoka could've blitzed him with speed and experience. I'm glad Snips got the win this round. She earned it.
I think that their battle would be almost exactly like Anakin vs Ventress.
Theoretically, Vader was so slow in ANH out of caution
That's what I think too! I'm actually planning a series analyzing all Star Wars fights, and that's one point I want to highlight.
I would definitely watch those, so I hope it comes into fruition
Best UA-cam intro I've ever seen.
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As always, wonderful video!
Personally, I think Luke has the edge due to his insane reflexes and speed tracking. I don’t think Luke’s feat against non-force sensitives makes him any less impressive, he’s got way too good reflexes
honestly id like to see a revised version of this that would take account what we've seen of Luke in the Mandalorian and the fact that its him and not Ahsoka that's been training grogu. i dont really see why they would ever fight each other, but its kind of cool to speculate about where they stand against each other in there of dueling, force and physical abilities. yes Ahsoka got more experience but i still like to think that based on this video that Luke would eventually endure Ahsoka's attacks and win against her in the end
I feel like the two would just going to a draw at least based on their characters.
Would totally like to see Revan vs Anakin. The Prodigal Knight vs the Chosen One.
next time hamill is interviewed he should be asked to try a young luke voice.
That intro is beautiful
By far the toughest versus video you've done. You did not disappoint. Bravo.
Thanks.
bruh, anakin's 6'2
I was basing his height off of Hayden Christensen (6'0)
And if that be the case, Mark Hamill is 5'9, not 5'6.
Jacob Sailer mark Hamil is 5'9 now but at the time he was 5'6 man thats accurate
Nope he is 6’0
@@owen69xx28 hes listed as 6'2. Hayden doesnt equal anakin.
Chewbaca actor is 7 ft but chewie is listed as 7'7. Same goes for the silver chick from ep 8 etc. Actors dont protray height
Bravo, man. Let me just say, Antoine as a long-time subscriber, this matchup is easily one of my favorites you have done. And I have to give props to DuduFilm for helping you. You two should do more collaborations. :) Thematically, I love this battle due to how similar, yet different the two are. As for a verdict, I can understand how difficult this could be. And I do agree with you. Luke clearly did not experience Jar Kai dual blades. And while I am confident he could adapt to it, I do not think at the point he was at where he could have adapted as fast. Give us say Luke a few years down the line and in is prime, that is a different story. Also, I always pegged Ahsoka's style as like a leaf blowing in the wind. She always met power and force by deflecting it, circumventing it and getting in critical attacks. And with Luke, while I see him adapting to Ahsoka's style, her experience at the end of the day was going to get her through due to having fought a myriad of opponents during war time. Luke, simply put, did have a hard battle. But against one(arguably two, if you include the Emperor) enemy. A VERY powerful enemy, but still that conditioning and fighting tunnel vision are evident.
As an addendum, at 9:11, where did you get that picture of Ahsoka? It looks really badass.
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I heard you changed your original verdict, like, hours ago. I would have gone with that original verdict personally but I do understand how folks would neglect to consider how difficult it would be for Luke to adapt to Ahsoka when all his dueling experiences revolved around Vader.
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Luke is not as good as you think he is.
+Chaos What's your reasoning?
I honestly think this is your greatest vs video yet! I agree that this is very much a coin toss, and I'm glad it didn't end in a tie. This was a great matchup. Keep up the great work!
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Bruh I just want the legends universe to make a comeback. Gimme Mara Jade, Jaina Solo, and HK-47 back
This is one of your finest video that you have made Antione. 2 Characters are evenly match makes this even more interesting. Also, the intro is truly magnificent.
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Rebels Ahsoka Vs Clone Wars Ventress, do it
That would be a brutal one.
Exactly
josiah jenks Ummm Ahsoka successfully fought Vader....
The Gardevoir Trainer
And centres successfully fought both Anakin and Obi wan at the same time
So did Ahsoka.
Cant believe I'm this late to this video. Love the intro btw! As for your mini rant, its very on point. Though if we are basing this on the EU, Vader >Anakin. I do agree that Ahsoka's unorthodox approach (at least from Luke's perspective) does give her an initial logistic advantage against Luke. To me, I think Ahsoka takes this due to superior application of force abilities and physicality. But your right, this one is a coin toss.
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He's the one who designed that brilliant intro.
Luke was a strong Jedi but ultimately was trained by himself while Ashoka was trained by the greatest Jedi Knight in the order at the time.
My Bro the opening music sets the tone for the video. It sets you up for the video by getting the heart pumping. Outstanding!!!
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Antoine Bandele I Have it is awesome
I honestly think Luke should've won. He can adapt to things like that, and when he does, it helps him grow.
Wow, dude. This must have been your hardest breakdown to recent date. Very informative, I'm impressed.
While I honestly would have like Luke to win, I have to say, you are very spot-on with Ahsoka's analysis. Very hard to disagree with, I must admit. You're right, this fight really is a toss-up.
Luke wins let’s be honest
I listened to all of this, and it truly feels like it just screamed one thing "Plot Armor". Be it Vader, Anakin, or Luke. Luke *is* adaptable, but has always lacked the ability to finish things, as you said he uses compassion. You also mentioned Aikido, in my personal opinion, a person with 2 blades, force abilities, more experience, sleight of hand tactics mixed with speed *and* the note that she uses her enemies inertia against them, hence you have stated multiple times that Luke and Anakin both use *power* strikes. I love the Skywalker's as much as the next guy, but in practicality I truly see her skill set to be above both of them. However, I never agreed with the idea of Vader being a better duelist than Anakin, he was a hell of a lot slower and had to rely on the force imo to make up for his loss of mobility, though I feel his spanking for his prior arrogance did teach him to respect his opponents to some degree. Just an opinion, and only because I felt that your descriptions spelled out a clear win for Ashoka by the fact that she used more than enough tactics to get the job done as well as her entire style was the antithesis of their fighting style, unless Luke refrained from that and shifted into defense, which even then I do believe misdirection and her various methods as a whole would prevail, unless plot armor were to take effect.
Vader had the power and experience to back him... Luke... Until his potential is reached like in legends...Yeah she would dominate him, not without a fight, but still.
Great video, Antoine! Very nuanced and well-thought-out.
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You forget that like tapped into the dark side when fighting Vader. Ashoka never tapped into the dark side
Wow! What a match up! Wow! Great video. This might become one of my favorites
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I think overall I agree. I think in the early fight Ashoka's speed and duel saber technique would give Luke a hard time... and if Ashoka scored a hit before Luke can adapt... well... that's it.
See what I don’t get is why he gives luke so much credit when it come to lightsaber dueling and adaptability. He had to fight Vader before and lost before he was able to adapt. So while he was able to adapt eventually he never showed enough skill to adapt fast enough to turn the tides in a single duel. So with ahsoka’s own style being so fast paced and aggressive I don’t see him being able to adapt at all in that first fight to have a probable chance of winning. I would give ahsoka a 7/10 advantage with the first fight. But if they fought again I could see this videos conclusion coming out. Being a 5/10 split and a much closer fight.
This is my favorite Video from you Bro,all your Videos are great,but this Video speaks to my soul.
I thing Ashoka would win first confrontation. Due Luke lack of experience against dual wielders, but would be able win rematch.
Holy shit, that opening though! Damn impressive editing. Bravo!
If Ashoka is the Avenger, will we see her in Infinity Wars?
Another awesome video. Although I think it would end in the late fight, as Luke knows how to make a fight last, even when he's at the disadvantage. Coupling that with his unnatural ability to adapt mid-fight, I see Luke winning against Ashoka.
Take into account that Luke is also almost exactly the same age as Ezra Bridger.
But he is more powerful than Ezra. Both EU Luke and Canon Luke.
@@imperialspecialforce5769 Ezra had an advantage. He had a master with him for years.
Wow Antoine! And to think that about 6 months ago I thought your videos couldn't get any better. But Yoda vs Revan (as "obvious" as it was) and this one have really surpassed your past videos. With the "new" intros and the variation of music you've made your videos feel like more than just a half hour rant. Nice work, Antoine, and I agree that Ahsoka would win.
I feel like the version of Luke that you're using in this matchup would be unable to stand ground to a fast paced warrior like Ahsoka. I think she has grown more during her time in hiding then you give her credit as she could easily keep toe to toe against 2 inquisitors. Luke on the other hand was on the verge of falling to the dark side when he defeated Vader. Against Ahsoka we can assume this will not be the case.
The way I think this would play out is Ahsoka being able to get some distance between her and Luke, then sprinting towards him, leaping at him with incredible speed. Luke saw her coming and raises his lightsaber in defence, blocking the attacks of both of her lightsabers. As she jumps over him, she kicks him in his back as hard as she can and he falls to the floor. He quickly gets up and turns around as his lightsaber is pushed out of his hand by a precise force push. He taps into the force and reaches for his lightsaber. During this small flaw in his focus on Ahsoka, Ahsoka (not going in for the kill) cuts of his robotic arm and slices the lightsaber hilt (still flying towards Luke) in half with her other blade. Luke falls to his knees and shrieks in pain. Ahsoka knocks him out with the hilt of her lightsaber (not killing him)
This is how I think the fight would have played out hope you like it.
You seem to hold those two Inquisitors in high esteem. What is that?
I don't think the inquisitorius should be underestimated. These dark side users were specifically trained to hunt force users. And the ones hunting former jedi are supposedly the most dangerous inquisitors. If you were to consider EU as well (where they appear definitely more powerfull than the way they are portrayed so far in canon) then taking on two at the same time and easily defeating them as well should be considered to be a display of great skill in fighting against other lightsaber duelists. I must admit that I'm probably underestimating the time Luke spent training with Yoda though.
Anyway I don't mean to hate on your video or anything, I loved it. (and I love that you actively respond to comments like these)
Merorevan i agree totally with you in Rebels we can see how strong she is i mean she fighted with Darth Maul (a extrem powerfull sith) but she had a good chance to kill him.
Good analysis ... but this presupposes that there would have to be an important reason for them to battle each other in the first place. I see it as Ahsoka succumbing to the dark side (Snoke? Palpatine?) as her anger over what happened with Vader drives her. If this was the case, she would try to finish Luke off quickly and use any type of tactics necessary. She learned from some of the best - Grievous, Ventress, Maul - and held her own. Luke's in serious trouble. The one I think that would have handled her mano a mano would be Dooku, who possessed true mastery of the saber. Mace Windu also would be more than a match, but Luke, not so much.
We don't know of Luke is on the verge of going to the dark side after ROTJ according to new canon. But what we know is he is as powerful or more powerful than his father. A gifted duelist and force user.
Everyone wants Luke weak now and not knowing what he is doing or on the verge of the dark side. This is why I dislike Luke's character development in the new franchise ownership.
I can see him beating Ahsoka in canon and as a legends character. He quickly adapts to an opponents style and is very powerful in the force, quick witted.
I agreed with the verdict, but like you said it's definitely not a definitive win. It really could go either way. Ashoka had far more training, fought a more diverse group of enemies, is a war veteran and has a fighting style Luke has never seen before. But on the other hand, Luke learned from three of some of the greatest Jedi and Sith in history, could adapted to situations quickly, was quick and dealt powerful blows, etc etc. This actually gives me a headache to think about, it really can go either way.
Of course if you want to throw in Luke's God powers from Legends he would win without any real arguments. He would probably win literally any fight if God-Luke was walking around and that'd be soooo freaking boring.
Not gonna lie, thought Luke had that even right up until the end
"...going on to blaze a trail for a new Jedi order... then miserably failing"
I actually agree with this. It would be a amazing fight but, I do think Ahsoka would win due to her formal training and experience.
Gunner Ridgway so today’s training from yoda counts for nothing ? And obi wans advice luke would mop the floor with her
Whoo! That was a totally badass opening! You're getting really good those!
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Luke won his fight with Vader, because Vader could not kill his own son.
Vader could also not kill his own apprentice.
Neither one actually faced Vader's full skill set or determination.
Actually vader was not conflicted about ahsoka he wanted her dead as she represented his past and the jedi. Where as luke was a new beginning and was conflicted.
@@shane2077 And thats the reason why she basicly lost her fight and was saved by plot in last season of rebels,...
Luke was played by Vader in cloud city, if not that he would be viped out faster then she was. If not that he woudnt have chance to adapt to Vader style of fencing,...
Main problem of Ashoka is, she didnt realy win against any noted force user (not counting those inquisitors rly, even for those no killing blows. realy?). She could conted for a while, but didnt end match, not to mention didnt end it early - whitch is time spam of supremecy in this matchup.
@@marianmarkovic5881 her fight against Vader she didnt really lose in a normal way. Initially vader force pushed her off the edge but ahsoka landed the first push on vader and hs wasnt near an edge. But it's obvious that hers pushed him farther away and at the actaul end to the fight ahsoka was attempting to sacrafice herself to save vader. She may have been on the defense for a large part of the battle but she didnt really lose.
@@shane2077 She was pulled by Erza into that weird place before being slashed into two,.. so yeah, i count that as loss....
@@marianmarkovic5881 well if it weren't for her, vader and her would be dead soooo
This is one hell of an opening. By the way, I took one look at the title of this video and immediately though Luke would curb stomp Ahsoka. Then I saw you where using him only up to Return of the Jedi, and was happy to see that this would actually be a fight.
4:32 This is where we refer to the EU, in which not only did Luke succeed in rebuilding the Jedi, but that Jedi Order withstood countless trials and crisis for over a century.
the yuuzhan vong war and the 2nd galactic civil war among them
and abeloth
And then got taken down by the One Sith Empire.
meh not taken down per say but hit pretty bad
Matthew White yes!! Luke was bad ass and even in defeat he still stayed by his family, maintained the Jedi order and was successful. That is the Luke I grew up knowing.
This is what I'm being waiting for me :)
It really depends on age, young Luke in the films would lose but grand master Luke would crush her without even sweating.
He's keeping it Canon. EU Luke would stomp most opponents. Way too OP.
@@taichiyagami2355 mouse canon is nothing but heresy.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Cry harder.
Rex was right: Experience _does_ outrank everything. In this case, Ahsoka's fights with the likes of Asajj Ventress, Grievous, Barriss Offee, the Inquisitors, and Darths Maul and Vader would've given her a good idea on what to expect against Luke.
Of course, the fight wouldn't have been this fierce if Ahsoka and Luke actually became friends. She knew his father back in the Clone Wars. Perhaps their shared experiences with Anakin/Vader could reduce this fight to a mere sparring session. Luke would've gained at least one more Master, this one bringing in the unorthodox.
Meanwhile, this is one close match-up I wouldn't wanna miss. Keep up the good work, Antoine.
Thanks Will.
Luke has the most powerful armour in the galaxy
Plot armour
Welp, look what happened now, they kinda became friends.
Yes, Ahsoka for life! I would love it if Ahsoka helped Luke rebuild the Jedi Order. It makes so much sense when you think about it with all her knowledge, experience.
Thank you for doing my suggestion, I do also think it would be very close but by a very small margin, I have to go with Luke because of his raw force power and as you said, the longer it goes on, the greater advantage Luke has; and I certainly don't see this ending quickly... so battered and bruised, I personally believe Luke would win.
Still, great video! :)
I personally have some disagreements with your statements regarding the "late fight". While Luke would become used to Ahsoka's fighting style, the same could be said regarding Ahsoka learning how Luke fights. Ahsoka also has vastly more combative experience in terms of light-saber duels as she has fought both jedi, and those like Ventress and Grievous on a regular occasion. Luke (by the end of Return of the Jedi) has only had serious duels with Vader and no one else.
Ahsoka has proven that she can and will use tactics in the middle of the fight in order to expose her enemy, such as when she taunted the Seventh Sister and ended up disarming her. Sadly we don't have showings of Ahsoka "finishing" her more serious duels with Maul and Vader. Her fights with the inquisitors showed her fighting quite passively, or she flat out destroyed them.
I do see Ahsoka's stamina slowly failing her towards the end of the fight, but it is very likely that she would have ended the fight by then, if not cause Luke to fight more passively.
That's definitely fair, I didn't factor in Ahsoka's own ability to adjust to Luke near the end.
Just going by each fighter's skill and ability coupled with experience, this fight is decisive for Ahsoka, but giving Luke that same combative experience and training with his talents being on the level of his father, he would take this without much fuss.
cincameron I think I would win
What do you mean about the late fight scenario forcing Luke to fight more passive, hes like Anakin he dosent get tired when fighting as his force reserves are effectivly limitless and such the longer the fight goes on, the more of an advantage he gains
This was an awesome video, man! I think I watched it before but sometimes you can't fully appreciate these things until you've watched them a few times. It's really hard to judge the legacy character's actual skill levels due to the limitations of when the original movies were made. According to the novelization, Vader got better (somehow) between Episodes IV and VI yet he is still slower and much less refined of a fighter than what we've seen in canonical things that occurred BEFORE Episode IV (like Rogue One and Rebels). The books and context of the fights would have us believe that we are seeing something truly epic but what I actually SAW wasn't super impressive so I honestly don't know how to call it. Really, I think I need to see some new canonical showing of Luke fighting against other force sensitives post Episode VI (but not super far into the future) to get an idea of how good of a fighter he's supposed to be in canon. Seeing him in Episode 8 won't necessarily do anything as this will be "Old Luke" and we want to know how truly great he was in his prime.
Luke wins, because Luke has the largest net advantage per round.
Round one: Ahsoka only has 1-0 lead, so +1, unlikely for a victory there
Round two: Ashoka has 3-2 lead, so +1, unlikely victory
Round three, Luke 3-1 lead, +2, more likely victory.
While Ashoka could win the early fight, her chances are much lower at winning the early or mid fight than Luke's are for winning the late fight. However, it is possible for Ashoka to win, just not as likely as Luke's.
Hah, not exactly the comment/commentary I was looking for. I wouldn't look into the numbers that hard. I'm more interested in likelihoods within the certain sections of fights than the splitting of numbers.
Ah, okay.
Mathematically,the possibilities are the same
Revan Youre not making much sense.
You must be talking about his legends counterpart.
Also you can not fairly decide weather Luke or Ahsoka is more powerful through their battle with Darth Vader as Ahsoka was holding back. Ahsoka did not want to kill her old master, Anikan was like a big brother to her, but Luke has never really met Vader properly so he does not care if Vader dies.
have to go with Ahsoka Tano for sure