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Was driving through the Texas panhandle the other day. I could see pump jacks, windmills, and solar panels out of the windshield all at the same time!
some of this pumps were of line because electricity prices,solar and wind prices made them feasible again.
@@yvanpimentel9950 These were low production pumps. The majors sold the fields off to smaller producers decades ago. Many do less than a barrel per hour I believe. It’s really low cost, but low volume. I don’t think they were ever put offline.
frack on Wayne, frack on Garth !!
You can build solar and wind quickly, but often getting through the permit process takes many years. I think the Texas permitting process is much quicker than California.
ERCOT has an absolutely ENORMOUS backlog. 37 GW of wind, 152 GW of solar and 140 GW of battery projects sitting in the ERCOT evaluation queue.
@@tomtxtx9617 wow. Source? Would like to share this.
In the UK you have to be connected by the local distribution network operators who in the main are owned by the national grid which is a privately owned business which seems to lean towards big oil rather than green customers hence the super long delays in getting connected, why would you want to cut off the hand that feeds you !
What is a little funny (well to me anyway) is that Texas has an installed capacity of 37GW wind and 14GW solar which exceeds the peak demand of the whole of Australia by 20GW.
Texas has about 20% higher population than Australia, and more industry.
@@dzcav3 27 million people in Austraila (2024 estimate). 30.5 million people in Texas (2023 estimate). 20% of 27 = 5.4 30.5 - 27 = 3.5. So not 20%. Must be the industry. ;-)
So Texas has more money than Australia ?
@dzcav3 Not many years ago Texas and Australia had about the same population. Australia seems to have deindustrialized in the past 20 years. I think Texas could eventually pass California because CA is doing the same polices as Australia.
And people online still telling me electric vehicles will never work in Texas, even though literally the world’s leader in EV’s is manufacturing the vehicles in Texas and the charger infrastructure already supports travel across the entire state. I am literally about to take my 3rd 3000 mile roundtrip with not a single issue to date in my model Y this week. People have very little vision. I can just imagine the same mindset back in the early 1900’s when the car replaced the horse as the main mode of transportation.
Loving that all these projects all over the world are coming online, not because of some green agenda, but because of pure economics. It just makes financial sense to go green.
Crikey what a surprise, didn't think Texans would give green energy the time of day, well done you folks
Austin liberals
@@larryc1616 All the cities in TX are pretty liberal nowadays. Houston excepted because of all the oil companies there.
@@tysonn4736 Texas cities are a mix that for the most part is survivable. State is gearing up for the increase of population and new companies moving in. Also tax incentives create many opportunities for new energy installation that many states could utilize. I am off grid myself without tax incentives and am an old fart. Just trying to help out.
In the cities we also have EVs all over the place. I can't leave my house without seeing dozens of EVs.
@@frankcoffeyThat's because of the massive government subsidies not only behind the sales but behind charging and manufacturing of these chinese electric vehicles that are assembled in america sometimes.
While having the battery facilities next to a solar farm is good, placing that battery in the parking lot of a shuttered fossil fuel power station also has the advantage of being able to use the existing grid connections. I'll take both and of course the best is the Solar Panels on my roof and the PowerWalls in my side yard.
I like the idea of rooftop solar on the roofs of warehouses and other large buildings.
Since the size of a solar project is often limited by the size of the link to the grid, having onsite storage can be a huge deal - because it allows you to grow the size of the solar farm, by delaying the transmission of some of the power.
@@tomtxtx9617 both batteries at the site of generation *and* batteries at the site of use are good ideas as the load on the grid varies with both production and demand. Too much production at the site of generation overloads the main electrical trunk into a city, but too much demand at a single site overloads the substation at that site. If there's a ton of production all at once, more than the trunk could handle, store it at the site of production. If there's more demand than the substation can handle at one point, that's also a problem, so have some electricity stored at the point of demand as well, eg EV fast chargers that spike in use in the mornings and evenings.
@@tomtxtx9617 Excellent point I had not thought of the grid capacity being a bottleneck.
@@jjamespacbellNot sure how it is elsewhere, but transmission congestion is a huge deal in Texas/ERCOT.
Any type of power plant, nuke, coal, gas, or even hydro can't produce any electricity or revenue until it's finished and that takes not only time but a lot of borrowed money. Wind and solar can start producing right away even as it's still being built out or expanded.
That’s what I keep telling people who say that solar is too expensive. Off grid doesn’t mean you live where electricity is unavailable. It means you consume your solar production instead of selling it to the grid energy providers. Because you can start very small and scale up easily paying cash as you go,the payback time is greatly reduced.
DIY off grid for less than $10,000 can easily run your critical loads panel (everything but cook stove,water heater,and central air conditioning) but pick up part of those loads when you schedule their use.
We have time of use plans in Texas that allow free electricity at night to top off your solar batteries,run your dryer,charge your car, or whatever large load you can schedule for that time.
For example,water heaters are the second largest load after air conditioning in Texas and by putting them on a timer you serve as a dump load for the underused grid capacity at night.
Check out Signature Solar’s kits . 8 kw panels,6 kw all in one inverter,and 13.4 kWh LFP battery for just under $10,000.
That’s about equal to a pack a day cigarette habit for four years.
Sam, I hope your injury heals soon. I am a big fan of yours.
wouldn't it be a good idea to add elevated solar panels above the batteries? seems that'd be more a more efficient use of available space. all the sunlight can't be good for regulating battery temperature. shading them with the pv panels would help. it gets up to 40c in Kaufman county.
Yeah, this is a VERY strong signal that renewables are the way forward. Those investing in energy now see that investing it in renewables gives them better returns than fossil fuels already, and it will only get better.
yes because corrupt government beurcrats create subsidies / incentives for mal-investment ie choosing 'muhhh renewables' over nat gas / nuke
Uh... returns? What returns? It is not people in Texas investing and building these wind farms. I have looked at these companies and they are all LOSING money even with subsidies. None of them give out dividends. Zero returns. ZERO, just asking for more $$$ usually. Only reason these wind farms are being built in Texas is because "environmental" funds from ignorant ville in NY and CA can build said farms where it is best suited in the USA --> which means generally speaking --> Texas which also has gobs of NG to balance this crud energy source. It is not people in Texas investing and building these wind farms, rather funds out of NY where fools put their money into who build the farms at a steep discout to what they actually cost in--> Texas.
I’m not sure about the who, but I’m pretty sure the subsidies and regulations are the biggest motivation. People putting solar on their homes are concerned about the money, but people building solar farms are trying to make money.
Nonsense. In most states, energy production from renewables is mostly cash flow negative, and if you factor in the energy used to make the glass in the solar panels, it is even energy negative. This is easily calculated using grade school math. It can work in Texas because it gets far more sun and wind than the average state.
@@hammerfist8763 I did see where the Chinese panels that have been coming over for years were made with coal and thus pretty carbon dirty. It all likely was a result of industrial policy with the Chinese trying to grab all the market share. I don’t think domestic panels are “energy negative”. Do you have a source on that? I don’t think the price would work if they were energy negative.
Not surprised. Western Texas has some of the world's best conditions for solar power, and the Panhandle region is part of the USA that has excellent wind conditions for wind power.
Not many want to live in those parts of Texas so it's a win win.
The same can be said for geothermal in Texas - lots of startups (many funded by and manned by expats of the oil & gas industries) popping up, taking advantage of new drilling technologies.
West Texas has had wind for many years, just like up in the panhandle around Sweetwater. Solar doesn't need "conditions" beyond cheap land and be near the grid.
No, TX does not have worlds best solar. It is not even close. Put same infrastructure anywhere in the middle east to Morocco or majority of Australia or S. Africa or Chile and ALL of those locations will get ~35%-->40% more power for same upfront costs. In fact, New Mexico, Arizona, and most of Mexico has better Solar than anywhere in Texas. TX does have ~Decent wind. Not world class, but above decent. Same wind turbine built in Central Argentina for instance would achieve ~35% more power.
@@w8stral I think the word "best" is misused. If referring to maximum radiation in a year, yes, low latitude - and high altitude - deserts would win out. Of course, few of them are near where the electricity is needed.
Very smart move to get ahead of the curve. Eventually they will run low on oil.
In the end it just comes down to economics and good business. Sensible investors won’t invest in declining technologies, like oil.
The profits in oil will only increase should supply be constrained, they will make greater profits by selling less. It's basic economics. The trucks delivering to the Tesla plants are fueled by diesel and the plastics in the EV are from oil. The roads the EV drive on are paved with asphalt made from oil. Most roofs of houses are made from oil products. Oil is irreplaceable and the costs could go through the roof. Packaging for food is made from oil. Fertilizer is made from natural l gas. If oil and natural gas becomes unavailable the economy as we know it will radically change. Food will become very costly.
Investing in oil and gas is smart. Warren Buffett owns BYD stock, also owns the largest NG pipeline in the U.S. , plus large shares of Chevron and Occidental Petroleum.
@@timothykeith1367 Hi Timothy, much of what you say is true but it doesn’t alter the fact that the petroleum industry is at the start of its long decline. Yes big profits may still be made in the short term but long term it’s all downhill much as they may kick and scream. The use of petroleum as fuel will be phased out over the next 25 years (ultimately the urge for self preservation will kick in big time) and the backlash against the use of oil based plastics and polymers is only likely to grow as well. Yes there will always need to be some oil extraction, but it will be a shadow of what it once was.
@@timothykeith1367 Yes however much of that they are finding can be made from vegetable and other plant oils.
Many don't realize the Extinction Level Event we are facing from the use of plastics for food use. Pregnant women who use plastic food containers, especially when heated in a microwave, have proven to have less fully developed male children since it stunts fully forming into males during the first trimester so males in general are becoming more and more sterile in greater numbers every year with the numbers trending toward drastic population losses resulting in ghost towns, etc in more parts of the world every year. This is already being demonstrated in parts of Europe where there are not enough children being born to inherit or purchase properties when the elderly die which then makes it so the countries most effected have a negative impact on the EU's economy and require other member nations to bail them out financially to avert a financial collapse. There is a very great potential now that if this is not curbed there may not be much if any of the human race left on the planet in the not too distant future even without wars, famines or natural disasters. The projection is a world of elderly people with very few to none young enough to be workers or caregivers if things keep going on like this.
Welcome to the modern world of petrochemical progress where many corporations such as Monsanto knew full well from the beginning where what they were developing and producing was going to send us.
Best!
@@timothykeith1367you are assuming that demand does not drop faster than supply.
It's more about a gov't that has grown like a cancer in the brain the size of a baseball & crowding out the healthy cells, currently spending $1 Trillion more than it has every 100 days, and companies are all about that free gov't money $$$. Just look how companies flocked to the PPP loans & all the corruption that happened there that is money we the taxpayers are on the hook for. No need to have good economic value when the gov't subsidizes the profits.
It should not be surprised that Texas is leading the way. Texas is full of energy technicians from oil company training. They have the knowhow and the forward thinking. Texas will lead the world in energy as it always has.
Because of the petrochemical industry, Houston has the most chemists in the world, which expands beyond oil products.
@@timothykeith1367 Yes. Oil production and refining will go on for a long, long time even after the demand for liquid fuels decline. Most people haven't a clue how many things in their life is based on petroleum, directly or indirectly.
Hadn’t looked at it that way. Good point
I've lived in the Dallas area since 1982 and every single day I see thousands of new houses and businesses attached to the grid. That's growth. We need all the energy we can get. One advantage we have is that we are not land locked, we have plenty of space to put both energy projects and new development.
Land locked? I think you mean land deficient. Kazakhstan & Mongolia are land-locked (no coastline or ports), but they have no shortage of land.
@@user-4in4nxDonaldRennie Texas has PLENTY of land. Maybe not land you'd want to live on, but perfect for building renewable energy assets.
Texas doesn't have plenty of land, landowners have plenty of land that are willing to LEASE to energy companies.@@incognitotorpedo42
I live on Maui and I care very little for total generation Green power. What I do care about is energy storage. Grid scale solar and wind is largely a scam rife with corruption, remember Enron? I am building a new home with solar and battery off grid, because the grid connection cost $10,000 for a new house. Applying that against the cost of a self-built solar system reduces my LCOE to less than $0.10 per KWH and grid prices here are 42 cents per KWH. Just the cost to maintain the grid is going to outstrip any benefit to people who own their own homes. Urbanites will still need a grid due to the lack of alternatives. It's a brave new world out there and the grid is not necessarily an essential part of it.
Well said !. Here in the UK we also have to pay a daily ‘connection’ charge for both gas and electricity so prices are just a rip off.
We have solar and battery storage planned for a 5 year pay back then the greedy power companies hiked electricity prices due to the lack of Russian gas (go figure) it paid for itself in just over 2 years!.
I wish we could go off grid too, stuff their daily connection charges !
@@stevenbarrett7648 these politicians will support all kinds of spending especially when it's not their money. Whatever ends up happening in the energy industry, it needs to happen based purely on economics and not cruony politics that protect entrenched enterprises. The subsidies for solar power here on Maui are based purely on grid connection. The county reassesses your home for solar power to increase your tax burden and charges you taxes with energy sales on the grid in both directions. It is such a scam I can't believe that people don't see through it.
Texas may go the way of Norway, becoming a petroleum net exporter with a nearly 100% renewable grid and a high percentage of electric transportation.
Well, I think "high percentage of electric transportation" is going to take much longer in Texas than electrifying the power sector, for the simple reason that the big Texas oil companies have an obvious reason to oppose the former (with very receptive state politicians to back them up), but not the latter. If everyone drives electric cars, big oil loses money. If everyone powers their homes with wind and solar, but continues to burn gas for their cars, big oil couldn't care less. One could even imagine the oil companies themselves someday switching to renewable energy to power their drilling rigs, simply to save money on fuel costs.
always said that economics will drive this even in states like Texas, at one hand the GOP say boo hiss but companies and families say otherwise ...
You have any evidence that Texas GOP oppose renewal energy? Or do you assume that approving of fossil fuel projects means you don’t approve renewals as well?
Very smart of Texas going green and make sure it's winterized instead of using your resources sell the resources like oil and gas to fund going green Good job Texas other states should follow
One of the most beautiful things I’ve seen is a giant wind turbine with a puny looking pump jack under it out side of Sweetwater Texas. I like horses but imagine a horse drawn farm equipment next to a modern tractor. Everything has its place,sometimes that’s in the past .
All of this intermittent power is causing considerable reliable issues on the Texas grid, so much so that the State of Texas created a state fund to pay for dispatchable power (Gas fired turbines and batteries). Plus the state is proposing decommissioning fees on the solar and wind farms, which is a good thing.
I agree, renewable energy is now cheaper than fossil fuels, even before accounting for the lower healthcare costs that will come from the reduction of pollution! My property in Vermont produces power for at least 106 homes.
Most of the state is on its own power grid that is not connected to the rest of the United States. Because it is only within Texas it does not have to comply with federal regulations. This caused blackouts and lack of gas for heating during a winter storm. The politicians blamed it on wind and solar.
Ironically, it was the out-of-state ERCOT directors that left TX down during that storm by their negligence and mismanagement. They've been all replaced since, and TX is back on track.
I live in Texas, but disagree with you. The night before this all happened I looked at my phone and it said 4 degrees for a low that night. That was worrisome, but what was worse was the high's the next day and for the following few days were only going to be around 14 degrees. I immediately said, out loud, "We're not built for that!" I knew something bad was going to happen. This would be like Alaska getting 105 degree days for 5 days straight....they're not built for that. In Texas, we can drop in the teens, but it always goes right back above freezing.....that's why we call it a "cold snap". The outages happened, because we don't get weather like that, and thus were not built to handle that.
@@hieyeque1 Yes, and if you were connected to the neighboring multi-state grids, you could have had power. Also, the politicians lied when they blamed it on wind and solar.
@jeffreymartin2010 I was going to say that. Texas for better or for worse is a rugged individual state. If you're in a fight, the best option is always unity with the right people.
@@hieyeque1and @jeffreymartin2010 You are both half right. The main power plants weren't winterized and froze up or their gas lines froze up (actually water in the lines). Other places could have wheeled in power from other states as they are interconnected, but not Texas. Well except for west Texas which is connected to the western states grid and didn't have the problem.
That’s great news, but using offshore wind power clips when talking about Texas is a bit of a fabrication. Texas has no offshore wind whatsoever. No states along the gulf coast has them, but they do have plenty of offshore oil platforms.
"clips is clips"
If Texas are doing this, being an oil producing state, maybe there is hope for others. Price is what talks and as soon as the battery storage prices dropped it will go forward and grow. We know that solar costs have deopped massively as well, so a great hand in hand approach.
Consider that battery costs are only as low as they are & still trending downward b/c the gov't has continued to pump more & more subsidies into renewable/green energy tech, which distorts the true pricing mechanism of capitalism. The Gov't is quickly reaching the point where the economy will suffer from it's wasteful spending via Inflation and then ensuing recession. Economic pain is on the horizon this year, & it's gonna probably lead to a decade of stagnation. Also, what does it say if the states that are most evangelical of this tech are the laggards in adopting it???
Tony Seba is correct, the clean energy future is driven by cost curves and not environmental activism. Texas can do the math, California is lost in La La Land activism.
Washington state is actually the green energy leader in the US. 73% of all energy consumed for home use is from renewable sources. WA also has some of the cheapest electricity in the US.
They’re lucky - they have a lot of hydro.
We in the Pac NW have a lot of hydro. I believe Washington state pioneered the first hydro project way back.
@jaaklucas1329 Hydro is the bulk of it, but what a lot of people overlook is how easily hydro power generation can be used like a battery when paired with other types of renewable energy. You don't have to ramp up like other forms of power generation, and taking capacity offline when not needed does not come at a high cost. With a sufficiently large grid, it would be possible to shore up dips in productivity with reserved hydro power generation.
Deep water wind farms off shore should be a high priority for Washington, Oregon, and British Columbia.
However, I think it will not happen without Government Grants and maybe partnership with our neighbors to the north.
Once established, returns would come from leasing waters in-between for offshore agriculture and setting up a battery charging depot for large ships.
Maybe the first offshore city in the US territories?
one alternative not much considered is to put solar on things like warehouse roofs. it would probably be worth making the actual roofing to get the free space for the solar. if you look at some of these you will see a sawtooth pattern of repeating metal frame. turn it so the slopes face south, and there you go. want a place to put the batteries? how about under the warehouse for a total of no acreage needed.
parking lots under solar are already being done. charge the car while it's parked.
another thing about the storage issue is, why not smelt aluminum while the sun shines? it's a huge electricity user, but with sufficient capacity you don't need to smelt at night.
Compress air storage is being under estimated,the effective turnaround is 60 yo 80 % but you save in electronics AND the price for storege is at least 5 times chipper than battery, in tanks the price for kw drops as the vessel gets bigger,a steel tank can be cicle over 20 times
more than the best battery,no limit to
fast charging or discharge, another
plus is the ability to combine air with natural gas, ammonia, hidrogen,methane etc. to double the energy storege , negating the need for power plants.
I live in Texas and last summer and winter the state produced more than enough power because of solar and wind power . I wish we could get a break on some of the current t rates for electricity ⚡️.
You won't get cheaper rates. Guaranteed they will go up, b/c the supply of last resort (the most dependable) will always be on-demand generation by fossil fuel & nuclear. So it's just wasteful to overbuild unreliable generation that must also have substitute generation waiting to be there when the renewables let you down. Also, all that extra equipment..... somebody has to pay for it..... what the gov't doesn't subsidize..... will be added into your generation costs.... and the gov't subsidizies are just trying to mask the true cost you pay until a later point when you pay it thru your higher taxes.
Texas is spending so much money on green energy and batteries since they actually have there own separate power system divorced from the rest of the US. 1-3 years ago (sorry i suck on time) Texas had major outages due to issues that could have been solved if they were part of the rest of the US power grid but since they desire to have a separate grid they need more alternatives that they would not need if they connected to the rest of the US grid.
Also Texas is getting a lot of major industry from Giga Texas to Space X and a lot of other companies spending lots of money in Texas and requiring stable power
ERCOT was formed in 1970
The real biggest cause of the power outages was that Texas didn't require the natural gas companies to winterize their equipment. No natural gas to the NG power plants means no electricity.
You would think Ca. would take some of the desert and cover it with solar panels.
At times California has so much solar power that its price is literally negative. What it needs more is probably more storage, and more transmission to and from places that have wind and solar when California has less, or vice versa.
California is building out multiple solar plus battery power systems at this time. What California can really use is more wind energy capacity. Hopefully offshore wind will become a reality soon.
@@GoCoyote you would think for cost and safety they might try Gravitricty. A heavy weight used in mining shafts that can generate MW based on power needs. There was a lot of mining in Ca.
But think of the environmental draw backs
@@brianjonker510 well a few square miles vs a coal plant or nuclear? Its all a trade
Hard to turn away from a fuel source with a $0.00 cost. Sure, still have to build the "plant", but free fuel for it is nice.
You are talking capital. That would be both the hardware and the land. The latter costs money and there will be taxes on it, too. Solar panels (presently) degrade at about .6% per year. 85% efficiency compared to new at 25 years. Night time battery backup surely costs a lot, both initially and in the long term, I'm sure. If the land under a solar farm doesn't experience high, increasing value like a city encroaching, let those panels run for fifty, seventy five years. Less output but zero costs by then.
Sure your religion says it is $0.00, but if so, go for it, invest in one of these projects... let me know when you get a return on investment. Good Luck! None of these projects to date have returned a single penny in dividends.
@@w8stral Howz your reading comprehension? Wait...I already know. He said the FUEL cost is zero.
I'm sure your knowledge about sustainable energy investments is gathered from right wing, anti-progress, pro-oil sources. If it was such a bad investment, why, for just one example, has the parent company of Florida Power & Light become the biggest owner of wind and solar in the US? To make bad investments? And you know, even a fossil fuel plant doesn't start making money for a number of years.
The irony is Texans will not realise this, yet alone acknowledge the benefits of this blasphemy.
🙄Why do you suppose it is being done?
Texas is for energy. Whether solar, wind, nuclear, whatever. Texas is all for it.
Stories like this is exactly what is getting missed in the debate. The rate of transformation is simply astounding and yet we hear nothing about it.
Sam, Volta charging stations are free in Texas and they charge at 10kw. ChargePoint has free charging stations ALL over the US for FREE, at 6.6kw. Personal experience. To say you can charger your car free at some stations in Texas is a gross understatement because you can do that all over the United States.
Sam I trust you're healing up quickly and back to 100% soon!
There is a Castrol Oil advert when I watch this video
The haters are stuck on the environmental aspect, can’t grasp this is about capitalism now
Selling ideas as green and environmentally sound is a awesome sales pitch.
@@JOSEPHDANCE75 of course it is, but at the end of the day, cost and efficiency is all that matters to the bean counters
Progress? Where I am they think Electric scooters are a new thing. First thought of an made in the mid to late 1800's. Electric cars as well. Just has more tech to make it more complicated and to make more money. So many people think the stuff just appears . I enjoying the riches from it all. @@fredkite9330
Well no, it is fools in NY/IL/CA paying to build these wind farms. It is NOT people in Texas paying to build them. Big ass difference. And these projects are all bankrupt. None of them make a single penny even with government subsidy. Go for it, put your $$$ into one of these projects. Good Luck getting your money out, let alone dividends. None to date have given a return on investment.
Pity though that they need to use a lot of land for so little energy production. So many people did not know that it is a good way to take more land which is a great asset . Here in Australia we are taking land to help foreign owned companies . It is awesome. Good way to make money. @@williamcrowley5506
Absolutely this makes sense. I'm curious about how the vendors (like Tesla) are supporting the regulatory burden of BES/CIP controls on these mega and giga battery + Wind and battery + solar PV systems to which all Transmission level equipment is subject.
This is a suprise.
I would have lost the bet.
Wonder when Texas will allow Tesla sell their EVs there.
The Texas Governor/Government legislature, only allows NEW cars to be sold through Dealers .
Texas is a Republican state. They have had major power outages in the last few years.
More EVs are sold in Texas than any other state in the union other than California. Tesla's especially dominate EV sales, and Texas is proud that Tesla has headquartered in Texas, and has, at this time, the largest factory in the US in Austin. The restriction to direct manufacturer sales in the state is, in practice, a non-issue, and is only requires a bit more paperwork to complete a sale.
It's basically just a paperwork thing. The "sale" nominally occurs in another state. The EV is still delivered directly to the Texas customer.
I think renewables are great, but I fear completely relying on them. Just this past week a Texas solar farm was taken out by a hail storm. What happens when that new solar farm, going in near DFW, has been online for years? The gas power plants get decommissioned or reduced. Now what do you do when a hail storm or tornado takes out your solar farm that you are now heavily dependent on? DFW is in tornado alley.
New kind of batteries needed. The batteries should and probably will be split to commercial large size batteries such as sodium ion and graphite while small ones will remain lithium. Lithium should not be used for large commercial storage like it is nowadays. Also another option may be If there is large lake nearby to use it as battery
WOW! Suprising but "Everything in Texas is Big, Son". 👍
Please use gigawatt hours when talking about battery capacity, not gigawatts. The Important thing is how long the energy last for, not how much it can give off instantaneously.
The one big thing you are missing: Texas can't profit off of green energy. It can't export electricity to other states. In order to avoid Federal regulation of their power grid, Texas has their own power grid that is only inside Texas, and that they keep separate from the 2 Federal power grids. So, they have no way to export any green electricity made inside Texas, and profit off of it, unlike oil which they can export. All the green energy made in Texas won't help the rest of the US move away from fossil fuels. Having said all that. Thank you for providing an update about how much battery storage will increase in 2024.
Dear Sam,
Elon Musk has started a company in Texas called GAMBIT. It's about energy or energy storage. Have you ever researched it? I am wondering how it's progressing...
Tesla has two virtual power plants in test operations in Texas right now. Virtual plants draw power from all the connected residential batteries and electrical cars whose owners elect to allow that in exchange for payments for the energy drawn. As a homeowner with Powerwalls, you decide when and how much energy can be drawn if the grid needs it elsewhere.
Great Progress! Clearly we were well on our way to addressing global Climate disruption. To bad, in about 8 months, all this great success may get cut short by political malfeasants.
Wow! 🎉😊
According to Gavin Newsom, if you include all the solar bobble toys California’s number one 😵💫
So, Texas will be a sort of Norway 2.0?! 🤔
Not even close. Norway invests the energy profits for the long-term benefit of the entire population. Texas makes sure that the vast majority of the profits go to the wealthy, who provide a little taste to the politicians.
@@tomtxtx9617 very good point. If you want to make long-term plans (& investmens), it has to be for everyone. But most important, *it has to be a plan!* 👍
Intermittency is a challenging problem, batteries provide an relatively expensive solution to daily variations in supply but they are not viable for weekly monthly and seasonal variability in renewable electricity generation .. For this reason more Gas turbines will be built. This is not bad as excess renewable energy can be feed into gas turbines energy cycle through several mechanism to help them act a seasonal batteries.
Cheap renewable electricity can be used to compress natural gas in tanks or underground caverns. Excess electricity could also produce hydrogen ,syngas and other hydrocarbon that are easily storable long term.. There is great value in being able to turn very cheap electricity when the sun is out the wind is blowing our the snow is melting into storable, transportable energy commodities.. In the Pacific northwest hydroelectric energy capacity in the spring and winter will often exceed electricity demand and the water is spilled over to save on turbine wear. Wouldn't it be great if all that electricity could be stored for months or years and or put on a ship to send somewhere far away?
It's not perfect, but simply mixing wind and solar together, rather than using only one or only the other, helps a lot with the seasonal energy storage problem because the two technologies tend to peak in different seasons.
The real reason: they had no choice. the TX grid is completely disconnected from the East and West interconnects so they either generate all they need, or they're SOL.
Tony Seba-right ....AGAIN!!! Renewables are so cheap they WILL dominate and the benefits will flow to ordinary people!!!
I wonder why there are no panels above the 🔋 since they would be cooler too
Ease of battery replacement or?
I read that Texas has been exporting most of the crude oil and LNG. The crude oil from fracking doesn’t work well in the refineries. Nations export their crude to Texas in order to utilize that refinery capacity.
Interesting about Texas, but without a connection to the grids of the neighbouring states they have to build batteries wich isn’t very cost and energy efficient.
This is great news, now if they could just keep the power running thru the winter.
One thing I think helps a lot is that the big oil companies don't really have a reason to oppose clean energy in the electricity grid because it doesn't infringe on their business model (oil is not generally used for electricity generation anyway). To the extent that renewables replace fossil-fueled power, it's the coal companies' loss, not their loss.
Electrifying cars, on the other hand, is something that oil companies are going to fight tooth and nail.
There's a fair amount of natural gas generation plants. Most natural gas is produced mixed in with oil wells or near oil formations, so although it is not the main product, it helps offset some of their costs when they can efficiently separate and capture it.
fun fact, even Halliburton ( large oil company) is investing in multiple Battery company's cos even they see the writing on the wall, and understand that if they want the company to exist in the future they need to look forward, they know that yes ice cars will be here for a while, but now they can predict the consumption decline thru the decades. Thus they do the smart thing, they sell oil as long they can whilst making sure they are future proof.
There is more recoverable oil in the Gulf of Mexico than the U.S. has consumed in 150 years. Only 1 percent or so of the already pumped oil fields can be recovered using existing technology, its still down there.
its not about how much oil there is in the ground, its about how long we will use them.
the US will have mostly electric and hydrogen driven cars around 2050-2070, that means lower need for oil, al lthe trucks will do the same, all the short range flight will be done by electric/hydrogen fueled plains, sub 65 feet boats. ect.. we wont burn oil based stuff anymore, at least not the 1 world country's, even india and China build ungodly amount of solar farms.
India's biggest solar plant is 2.2GW (A typical nuclear reactor produces 1 gigawatt (GW) of electricity) to build a Nuclear reactor you needs papper-work the size of Lord of the Rings trilogy. ann the permits all the time they get approved and building time is 5-8 years. a similar output Solar Plant needs way less papper work, less permissions, and building time is under 1 year. and by now, for a fraction of the cost.
another fun fact:
-TEXAS
Tuesday 13 February proved to be a record-breaking day for the Texas solar sector, with tracker GridStatus.io reporting that the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) grid generated a peak of 16.7GW of electricity from solar sources at 10:05 am local time, the highest on record.
my point being, less and less fossil based stuff we need to burn or alter and then use to generate some kind of energy. so in the long term, you are better of investing in the future, and sell the current stuff until there is no business in it or it gets banned. @timothykeith1367
Even after all cars and trucks are electrified, there will still be plenty of uses for oil. Jet fuel, plastics, and commercial shipping, and all three obvious examples. There are probably many others.
that is true, but the you need to look the big picture, Europe+USA+Canada have 560M cars on the road @@ab-tf5fl if they all dont need Diesel or Benzine, that is a giant amount of oil not needed.
Call me skeptical. It's called "giving the appearance of conformance" (like many of us did during Covid to keep our jobs) so as to not incur ESG penalties from green-scam investors pumping an industry the same way they do individual stocks (and then bailing when the ride is over). AND..... also a little bit of hedging your bets (esp if Biden stays another 4 yrs - might as well partake & binge on the free gov't money subsidies like every other greedy company - economics don't have to matter when free money being handed out).
The main problem with Texas is that although the electric infrastructure at the state level is ok, the infrastructure at the local level lags. Cities are not investing in upgrading their local electric grid enough. The most recent freezing temperatures in Texas still caused outages because of the local level problems. However, this is true of pretty much any other city in the USA. The funny thing is that Texas doesn't go green because it wants to be on bleeding edge like California. Texas goes green because it makes economic sense. This is why California lags in the long run because they wasted so much money just to say they are climate activists. When you think with your heart instead of your brain, you tend to lose money far more.
The Texas Govenor doesn't like renewables and try to blame them for the power outages several years ago. The last legistaler tired to pass bills that would hurt renewables but the reps who have lots of renewables and their big tax bonus said no.
West Texas is flat, sunny and windy
On Maui, once we install large scale wind turbines, the price for the power actually went up and total fuel burned did not diminish. Without storage to capture intermittent power, green alternatives are not that good especially for a grid.
IT DOES NOT NEED TO TAKE 10 YEARS TO BUILD A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. IN the United States before the NRC began IMPEDING construction with NO MANDATE for commercialization, the average build time was 36 months, with some like Point Beach 1 & 2 (Wisconsin, 1968, 500 MW each, less than $1000 / kilawatt inflation adjusted cost today) taking slightly over TWO YEARS to construct. Japan has built a reactor in 39 months. The average build time for 13 plants in South Korea is 56 months. S. Korea has become a manufacturing / technology powerhouse despite being a small country by getting one third of all power from 26 nuclear plants. The NRC NEEDLESSLY KILLS NUCLEAR IN THE UNITED STATES. It has ZERO to do with safety or necessity.
some one has to speed up the development of sodium ion batteries
Probably used the oil money like Norway
Actually most people charge their electric cars over night... When means they are using what to charge their cars???
that is very surprising. Virginia is lagging back badly where I live.
It actually isn't surprising. Texas has the ideal combination of being both sunny and windy.
Virginia rejected windmills,but is speeding along with that oil pipeline, where Biden confiscated the land by Executive Order, forcing thousands of Black People off their property. Don't want to make this political, but Virginia is full of Luddites.
Yes, the mid Atlantic states have great forests and waterways. We don’t want to cover this land in solar. It’s cloudy and not very windy either. We need smaller-sized, more consistent solutions. Probably just nukes make sense here.
I lived in Dallas TX most of my life and the wind and solar from Texas could power most of the US because the wind blows there cause its flat and freaking sunny all the time like Australia....many people underestimate its overwhelming potential... personally I'm whelmed 😂😂😂
Why did Texas go green, there are no Greens in Texas? Answer - It makes economic sense.
New technology transmission line rewiring instead of new transmission line projects will enable solar, wind, hydro and batteries to take over
Texas is on a separate grid from the rest of the US, As it continues to grow in population, it must increase its energy production.for the foreseeable future. The only practical way to do that is with wind and solar. Texas also funds its schools through property taxes. Wind and solar farms substantially boost tax revenues for rural school districts.
This is why a red state like Texas supports renewable energy.
Grid electricity is incredibly expensive to build new.
Grid electricity is only 15% of all energy, so 100% grid supply is a f...king big national grid.
Nuclear promoters are saying you pay for the grid capacity expansion, we will build the generators.
Nuclear promoters are saying you make us profitable, just build the bigger grid for us.
Battery, not baddereray! 😂
Who would’ve thought
Iowa (a very Red State) gets 60% of it's electricity from Wind. On a per capita basis Iowa is the current leader in renewable energy. (I'm not from Iowa).
It's up to almost 2/3rds now. And this may be a red state (I do live in Iowa), but the largest utility here is owned by Warren Buffet, (who lives just across the river in Omaha), so it's about good economics, (not which particular bunch of idiots are currently running the statehouse).
So much land for so little energy production.
I’ve live mostly in Texas and California. Lots to admire or improve in both states. California killed off its residential solar industry last year. PG&E, SDGE and Edison, the three electricity monopolies that make up the criminal cartel bribed politicians and changed net metering regulations. While solar is still required on new construction, owners of existing homes who are not wealthy can no longer afford to install solar. Criminal cartels hate competition.
Are Sodium-Iron batteries going to play a role in this???
Maybe at some point. It takes time to ramp new things up.
When American trains Will be eletric like most europens
Diesel-electric trains are super efficient. Union Pacific claims 1 gallon of fuel hauls 1 ton for 480 miles.
@@timothykeith1367 we had Also that trains, and we have in some lines... They Will be replaced... Noisy trains and polluent
They were! We got rid of them in the mid 1900’s.
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Hi Sam. Love the channel and hope the knee heels soon.
Any chance you could replace the term "natural gas" with "fossil gas"? I know we all know it's a fossil fuel but it bangs it home.
Cheers
Who’s providing the batteries for Texas?
Who says Texas isnt installing new gas fired plants? We have to. Renewables cant work without it.
I wonder if Tesla and Giga-Texas has any thing to do with this move of Texas to renewables. Its wonderful what influence relationships might have between government and companies!
No. Texas led in wind generation long before Tesla got here. From the State Comptroller: "For the past 17 years, Texas has led the U.S. in wind energy. In 2022, Texas turbines produced 40,556 MW - more than a quarter of all wind-sourced electricity in the U.S. Wind power surpassed the state’s nuclear generation for the first time in 2014 and exceeded coal-fired generation for the first time in 2020."
Why don't they put the batteries under the solar panels? Do they really have more land than they know what to do with? And even so, wouldn't the batteries benefit from the shade? Or would the solar panels produce less, due to the heat from the batteries, (when it isn't windy enough)?
Easier to maintain and install when in nice neat rows near the ground.
I guess it's to facilitate maintenance and transportation
Fly into Dallas, and drive to El Paso.
I imagine the batteries are actually already shaded by the metal vented enclosure around them.
@@RT-mv7df Yes, but surely shading those enclosures would keep them even cooler. (though if they end up heating the panels above them, that would reduce the panels output)
I am interested not in MWh built. I am interested in percentage of power renewables give to the grid every month of the year, mont by month. Simple statistic
There should be a Dallas 2.0 TV series. Dallas: Next Generation or something.
The sons and grandsons of J.R. are still into oil. But the sons and grandsons of Bobby are splitting off into wind and solar. Lot's of arguments about climate change and all the rest.
Maybe the US public couldn't handle it, though.
I agree, 100%.
This is great if it is done without subsidies.
Why??? Fossil fuel industries accounted for 7 trillion in subsides worldwide Last year alone.
@@johnlodge8546 I'm equally against subsidies for fossil fuels. The mischief of a subsidy is that it does not allow the price mechanism to determine the balance between what consumers desire and producers can produce. It substitutes the decisions of bureacrats and politicians for that of the people. It creates industries that are not really needed, but are built anyway because of political fashion. Once you understand how effective the free market is, you will realise how pointless subsidies are.
GW is power. It means nothing to say "1GW of battery". What is interesting is GW *hours* - the amount of *energy* it can store.
Batteries are also rated by max rated current/power, poor old Pedro.
BESS (battery energy storage system(s)) are useless to the grid without an inverter system that can take the DC (direct current) output from the battery and “invert” it into AC (alternating current) that can be injected into the power grid. Battery energy output is rated in their watt hour capacity, but the inverters are rated at their power output capacity, so all BESS have two ratings, one for the inverter power output, and one for the battery energy capacity. A 100 GWhr battery connected to a 20GW inverter can an output a maximum of 20 GW at any given time, and will be able to do so for a maximum of 5 hours until the battery is depleted once all 100GWhrs of battery storage has been inverted into usable grid power. You just don’t see the term “inverter” used outside of the power industry, and instead you just see the power output rating along with the watt hour rating.
Of course GW means something. It means that the maximum discharge rate is 1 GW. Which is what ERCOT cares about, so it's an easy number to find because it has to be filed with ERCOT. Owners typically don't need to disclose their GWh.
@@dhowitzer ofc, but a 1kwh 1GW battery wouldn't be much use. Nor would a 1GW 1GWh one.
Amazing
Why the projected need for so many megapacks when EVs are big batteries on wheels anyway....
Wireless 2-way charging means EVs will automatically charge/discharge on demand as required by the VPP as soon as they park up anyway, without anyone thinking about it.
Ballard has just announced the 1st gigafactory for building fuel cells in the US and it is going to be built in Texas. Hydrogen is growing rapidly in Texas.
No, hydrogen is not "growing rapidly in Texas" - the petrochemical industries already produce plenty of grey hydrogen for their own uses and have done so for decades. In most cases*, hydrogen fuel cells are just idiotic. Hydrogen is a shitty, low density energy storage medium with terrible round-trip losses. *Space Shuttle and such being a literally an "out of this world" exception.
Texas is a reasonably well run. I live in California, and Macavoy Olive Range in Marin County, richest county in Calfornia, blocked her full height windmill because a puny number of residents objected to how it would be visible. You can't do that kind of NIMBY blocking in Texas. California has little offshore wind because the wealthy residents object to the aesthetics. NIMBYism blocks almost every project in California, which is why Texas is winning big. California supercharging stations are 45 cents per Kwhr, which is probably double the price in Texas. And small wonder that there is net migration from California to Texas in the last year. Because "Kommiefornia" is poorly run by the same party apparatus for 25 years.
Great job Texas!🎉
Thanks for watching
Australia estimate 27 million people.????? Must be more I think you must be wrong. Australia acts like a Worldpower. And only 27 Million Ozzis????? What Power is that??? I Check Google on this. And those 27 Million have an Energy Problem??? Ozzis must be Dumb or Dumber. 😂😂😂. Thank You Again Sam for this video ❤
I understand Texas is not connected to the countrys grid system (for tax reasons) so being self-sufficient is crucial
Not for rax reasons, it's because they refuse to abide by Federal mandates and regulations.