If you liked the old Camcos then try the DW 2000 pedal. When my speed king finally gave up the ghost I looked for something similar but not a pain in the backside & the 2000 was by far the closest. Has a beautiful feel: light, sensitive, fast, easy to adjust, just a great pedal. Cheap too.
Love the DW/Craviotto snares, they're some of the best drums ever made. For a bit of context, Paul Jamieson who made the drum for Steve Smith, is a legendary LA drum tech, who famously worked with Jeff Porcaro for a long time, and is the co-inventor of the Pearl Drum Rack Jeff used.
Hey Chris! Hope you're doing well, buddy. This thing would pair well with that DW down in your basement!! Thanks for the kind words. Glad you got a kick oit of the video. And I hope you enjoy your weekend!
@timbofromkeno love it too! Sounds like a 90s sitcom. Or a stock library track from the movie Angus. Remember that one? And the star Charlie Talbert hails from... Kenosha!
I just love Fridays, in general but now even more because I have these nuggets to look forward to from the mind of Timbo. I have a DW maple 5.5 I got in 1997. Behind the misses and the kids, it’s what I’d grab in a fire. It’s not a Cav but sure sounds pretty. Speaking of pretty, that Goddamn prototype dark ride! Whoa, man. IMO that should be your sig model Turkish ride. I’m not sure who we need to talk to but this needs to happen. I’ll damn well buy one. Thanks for bringing us this, I always learn so much and always have fun in the process. Stay golden pony boy 😂❤🎉
John, man, thank you! I really appreciate all the kind words AND that you're coming back week after week. I'll bet your DW is a beast. That's from that early era when DW was still having their shells made by Keller. Those are some of the most sought-after drums of the 90s. I'd grab that over just about anything else in a fire too! And I really love that Turkish ride. I'll have to talk to them about doing a short run or something!
@@timbofromkeno you ever want to borrow the old girl jlmk. Her gold hardware is worn out and she smells like old zima and clove cigarettes but she’s got it where it counts.🤣🤣🤣
Camco endorsed me in Los Angeles.1979 I have a 7 piece 24" down to 12". Camco LOs Angeles badges. These drums slay any DW you bring. I mean any over priced DW you want.
Timbo, that sounds really fantastic. Great video bro.I wanted a "sound" that was me, so I just simply built mine, started with a bare Keller shell. 5 1/2 X 14" , 5 ply mahagony, poplar, and maple. It is amazing, at least to me.
That's a great way to do it, Steve! I'd guess that certainly sounds fantastic. I had a pretty old C&C kit that was made out of the Keller vintage mahogany shells, and it was one of the most radical sounding drum sets I've ever owned. I can't say enough about it.
Juan, man, thank you. And I have a lot of love for PR! I had the pleasure to go to El Yunque once when I spent a week in Fajardo, and I have SO many good memories from that week - some of the best sights, foods, music, and people. Big love, my friend!
very nice documentary! :) you are such a good and fast drummer! try to work more on sound (use more individual mics volume and less room mics) and also on video quality (you need more lights. and also put some backlight, because it will shape you and your drums from the background.. )
Thanks for the feedback. I'm certainly working on some more of these things. For the lighting and video quality, I'm working within my budget. 😂 And for the audio, I tend to favor more of the room sound, but many people like to hear more of the close mics, which I'm working on incorporating more in future videos. I hope you'll stick around for more. : )
Pretty sure Solid/Select came before Craviotto working with DW. Great snare BTW. Possibly the nicest snare I've ever played was a friend's DW/Craviotto Timeless Timber. That thing had it all.
Yeah, I think you’re right on the Solid company stuff. There was a lot of timeline stuff to try and remember for this video. I was digging into the depths of my mind’s archive! 😂😂😂 And thanks! I’ve never played a timeless timber, but I would love to get hands on one of those things some day!!
Oh wow!I thought you were playing dream cymbals or maybe sabian HHX...cool turkiah b20 super sized ,and they sound beautiful, along with that DW snare i hope you buy.Those are not cheap,ever.
It is Kenosha! My family has been here a very, very long time. And it's definitely a place folks from both Chicago and Milwaukee come to breathe a little bit. If you ever make it back out this way, don't hesitate to give me a holler!
Ronn has designed a lot of great stuff over the years. And his new George Way stuff sounds fantastic. Memphis Drum Shop's UA-cam channel has a lot of great videos of those newer drums. They're worth a peek!
The history aspect is a really good addition to these clips 👍 .. Of course the gear you have on display is top notch every time, no doubt.. You have been rocking that red beast for a while now.. 😂
I've got a lot coming up with another kit, so I'll switch things up shortly! hahaha And thanks for the kind words. I hope you learned something from this little clip!
Holymoly!!!!! I've already learned so much in the first 2min of this video! Who knew DW had such a long rooted history, and also bought out by Roland?!! I apparently live in a cave 😅😂
Hahahaha Drum news is the only news I care to keep up with. If you subscribe (or already are), I promise you’ll have an ever-flowing fountain of the latest industry gossip! 😂😂
The thing a lot of Keller haters don't realize is, the shells are made to the drum company's specifications. They aren't the same as the off-the-shelf Keller shells anyone can get from Precision Drum Co. I might be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall Ray Ayotte saying in a magazine interview that he even had Keller cut the wood plies off the logs in a specific way. (He didn't actually say Keller in that interview, but he did confirm the shells weren't made in-house.)
Timbo, I like your videos, the only complaint would be the sound is really roomy, so I can´t pick exactly your snare´s sonic features. But keep up the good job!
I appreciate the comment! The room sound is definitely my personal preference. It’s kind of like “my” sound. And I totally understand your concern. I’m thinking about ways to modify my videos in the future to help with this. Stay tuned!
@@timbofromkeno i wasn't expecting an answer but it's cool you are taking into account my comment. Obviously room sound gives its needed life to our instrument, relying on close mics only would sound too dark and two dimentional.
@@Eurodrummer666 There's a balance, right? I tend to go on the far end with the room sound just because that's what people love on Instagram from me historically. And anyone can get close mic sounds, but not everyone can get that huge sound, so it's something unique that I can produce. But I also understand the practicality of hearing the sound of many different snare drums from the perspective of close mics. It gives you an even reference point, and that's important!
I wish. I feel like it was something with cherry plies in it, but it also could've been mahogany. It had a natural oil finish over the wood. And it was about a 14x6.5" snare.
I feel like DW Snare Drums nowadays has gotten better at its sonic qualities to their snares. I guess its their lacquer on the inside shell they put on to serve for higher sonic value. Again we're comparing like a K Con low to a K Con medium 22 inch ride sort of things I mean they both sounded wonderful just DW nowadays rule!
Hey Regent! I just watched your reef tank video. So cool that you're bringing in local coral for your tank. I hope you're still having fun with that! DW makes some great drums for sure - they aways have! What's cool about the drums today is that they have all sorts of technology that they put into them. The normal plied drums are made in a two step process. The first set of molds is hot, and then they're put into a second set of cold molds after. I believe they're they only manufacturer to do that. Pretty cool stuff!
@@timbofromkeno DW have done something innovative with their HVLT,HVX & SSC grain orientation technology. I've also noticed Noble & Cooley hot steam bent with their shells. Again it is very interesting to see a DW steam bent version before.
@@regentsaquariums5692 Yes! DW's steambent technology is incredible. For their Super Solid shells, they use what is basically a very futuristic microwave to turn the piece of wood into a bendable form that they can put into a mold to create a circle. It's incredible! If you haven't seen a video on that, you'll have to find one!
I feel the same way about my different snares. It changes the feel and mood of how and what I’m playing. I’ve had a fellow drummer tell me there’s different mojos in each snare. Some you just can’t stop playing. I also use that to justify buying more snares. I assume guitarists feel similarly about their stock of guitars.
That is 100% it. One perfect example of this is Questlove. At The Roots' studio in NYC, he has a room with a drum set and it's surrounded by walls of snare drums. He gets each to make one sound that he really likes, and then they stay that way. So, he can pull the right vibe out for the right track. Brilliant!
Loved the old camco pedals back in the day.
Aren’t they great? So simple, but so quick and nimble!
If you liked the old Camcos then try the DW 2000 pedal. When my speed king finally gave up the ghost I looked for something similar but not a pain in the backside & the 2000 was by far the closest. Has a beautiful feel: light, sensitive, fast, easy to adjust, just a great pedal. Cheap too.
A beautiful instrument! Perfect sound color!
Truly. It was a joy to play!!
Love the DW/Craviotto snares, they're some of the best drums ever made. For a bit of context, Paul Jamieson who made the drum for Steve Smith, is a legendary LA drum tech, who famously worked with Jeff Porcaro for a long time, and is the co-inventor of the Pearl Drum Rack Jeff used.
I didn’t realize Paul helped invent that rack. What a wild piece of drum history. Thanks for telling us!
Hey Tim. What a nice snare drum. Can go low and high. A piece of art for sure. Nice chops showcasing what it can do.
Hey Chris! Hope you're doing well, buddy. This thing would pair well with that DW down in your basement!! Thanks for the kind words. Glad you got a kick oit of the video. And I hope you enjoy your weekend!
You and the snare sound sensational!
Thanks Aaron. Hope you're well, my guy!
Those DW snares like their kits are hit or miss some sound amazing and others are just ok.
Totally agreed. And this one is one of the good ones for sure! 😁
Love your playing at the end of this weeks instalment!
Thanks J. I really appreciate that!
@timbofromkeno love it too! Sounds like a 90s sitcom. Or a stock library track from the movie Angus. Remember that one? And the star Charlie Talbert hails from... Kenosha!
@@pfmdude Oh man, I love it!! 😂❤️
really enjoyed this video Tim, so informative and the sounds!!!! Keep it up buddy!
Hey Kaleb!! Thanks for the comment. Miss ya, dude. Hope all is well in your world. I appreciate the kind words! ❤️❤️❤️
I just love Fridays, in general but now even more because I have these nuggets to look forward to from the mind of Timbo. I have a DW maple 5.5 I got in 1997. Behind the misses and the kids, it’s what I’d grab in a fire. It’s not a Cav but sure sounds pretty. Speaking of pretty, that Goddamn prototype dark ride! Whoa, man. IMO that should be your sig model Turkish ride. I’m not sure who we need to talk to but this needs to happen. I’ll damn well buy one. Thanks for bringing us this, I always learn so much and always have fun in the process. Stay golden pony boy 😂❤🎉
John, man, thank you! I really appreciate all the kind words AND that you're coming back week after week. I'll bet your DW is a beast. That's from that early era when DW was still having their shells made by Keller. Those are some of the most sought-after drums of the 90s. I'd grab that over just about anything else in a fire too!
And I really love that Turkish ride. I'll have to talk to them about doing a short run or something!
@@timbofromkeno you ever want to borrow the old girl jlmk. Her gold hardware is worn out and she smells like old zima and clove cigarettes but she’s got it where it counts.🤣🤣🤣
@@johnrobertcorney lol Amazing. I really appreciate the sentiment!!
love your presentations
Man, thank you. I appreciate you coming back time and time again!
That medium tuning you demo'd was luscious. Which is not a word that I typically associate with a snare, but here we are.
It's TOTALLY lush. I think that's a perfect way to describe it!!
Camco endorsed me in Los Angeles.1979 I have a 7 piece 24" down to 12". Camco LOs Angeles badges. These drums slay any DW you bring. I mean any over priced DW you want.
Camco LA shells are the stuff of legends. I've owned Oak Lawn and Chanute Camco kits, but never an LA kit. I'd love to get my hands on one some day.
Great stuff on this one bud...👍👍
Thanks Dan. Glad you dug it!!
Timbo, that sounds really fantastic. Great video bro.I wanted a "sound" that was me, so I just simply built mine, started with a bare Keller shell. 5 1/2 X 14" , 5 ply mahagony, poplar, and maple. It is amazing, at least to me.
That's a great way to do it, Steve! I'd guess that certainly sounds fantastic. I had a pretty old C&C kit that was made out of the Keller vintage mahogany shells, and it was one of the most radical sounding drum sets I've ever owned. I can't say enough about it.
Man thanks for the info! Sounds incredible. Love the lugs, super cool.
The tube lugs always look so slick on wood drums. This is no exception for sure! Glad you dug the video, Glenn!!
I enjoy your videos so much , amazing sound as well.
best regards from Puerto Rico
Juan, man, thank you. And I have a lot of love for PR! I had the pleasure to go to El Yunque once when I spent a week in Fajardo, and I have SO many good memories from that week - some of the best sights, foods, music, and people. Big love, my friend!
very nice documentary! :) you are such a good and fast drummer!
try to work more on sound (use more individual mics volume and less room mics) and also on video quality (you need more lights. and also put some backlight, because it will shape you and your drums from the background.. )
Thanks for the feedback. I'm certainly working on some more of these things. For the lighting and video quality, I'm working within my budget. 😂 And for the audio, I tend to favor more of the room sound, but many people like to hear more of the close mics, which I'm working on incorporating more in future videos. I hope you'll stick around for more. : )
@@timbofromkeno yes, i will continue to watch your content! you are doing a very good job!! keep going! :)
Pretty sure Solid/Select came before Craviotto working with DW.
Great snare BTW. Possibly the nicest snare I've ever played was a friend's DW/Craviotto Timeless Timber. That thing had it all.
Yeah, I think you’re right on the Solid company stuff. There was a lot of timeline stuff to try and remember for this video. I was digging into the depths of my mind’s archive! 😂😂😂
And thanks! I’ve never played a timeless timber, but I would love to get hands on one of those things some day!!
Very cool drum Timbo 🤩
Thanks y’all! ❤️❤️❤️
Oh wow!I thought you were playing dream cymbals or maybe sabian HHX...cool turkiah b20 super sized ,and they sound beautiful, along with that DW snare i hope you buy.Those are not cheap,ever.
I did wind up buying that snare, thank you! And that Turkish stuff is worth a look. I love it!
Amazing snare, amazing sound & playing Tim !!
Thank you! Yeah, this drum is incredible. I was blown away from the second I first played it!
Neil Peart's 90s dws were absolutely beautiful!
Yeah they were!!
I finally realized what "from Keno" means after all this time. It's Kenosha, right? I used to visit there from Chicago all the time as a kid.
It is Kenosha! My family has been here a very, very long time. And it's definitely a place folks from both Chicago and Milwaukee come to breathe a little bit. If you ever make it back out this way, don't hesitate to give me a holler!
You're one of the most positive, energetic, and humble people of all time. I would love to!@@timbofromkeno
I didn't know that about Ron Dunnett. Low key the best investment i made was buying a Dunnett throw off. Never fails and feels great. Anywho...
Ronn has designed a lot of great stuff over the years. And his new George Way stuff sounds fantastic. Memphis Drum Shop's UA-cam channel has a lot of great videos of those newer drums. They're worth a peek!
The history aspect is a really good addition to these clips 👍 .. Of course the gear you have on display is top notch every time, no doubt..
You have been rocking that red beast for a while now.. 😂
I've got a lot coming up with another kit, so I'll switch things up shortly! hahaha And thanks for the kind words. I hope you learned something from this little clip!
Holymoly!!!!! I've already learned so much in the first 2min of this video! Who knew DW had such a long rooted history, and also bought out by Roland?!! I apparently live in a cave 😅😂
Hahahaha Drum news is the only news I care to keep up with. If you subscribe (or already are), I promise you’ll have an ever-flowing fountain of the latest industry gossip! 😂😂
Love it, I'll take or the tea I can get😂. Thank you👊. I am subscribed but just switched notifications to All!
@@ishmaelmensah2842 Ah! thank you so much. I appreciate you!!
god i love snare drums, what drummer doesn't like snare drums?! another very informative vid, keep em coming
You gotta love snare drums!! 😂 And thanks for the kind words. Lots of good stuff in the pipeline to come!
BTW: Ayotte drums also used Keller shells...
I didn't know Ray and the gang did that too. But it make sense. He's made many wonderful drums over the years!
The thing a lot of Keller haters don't realize is, the shells are made to the drum company's specifications. They aren't the same as the off-the-shelf Keller shells anyone can get from Precision Drum Co. I might be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall Ray Ayotte saying in a magazine interview that he even had Keller cut the wood plies off the logs in a specific way. (He didn't actually say Keller in that interview, but he did confirm the shells weren't made in-house.)
@@jc3drums916 That is so interesting. If you ever stumble across that interview again, I’d love it if you could link me to that!
Amazing!!!
Thanks homie!! ❤️
Timbo, I like your videos, the only complaint would be the sound is really roomy, so I can´t pick exactly your snare´s sonic features. But keep up the good job!
I appreciate the comment! The room sound is definitely my personal preference. It’s kind of like “my” sound. And I totally understand your concern. I’m thinking about ways to modify my videos in the future to help with this. Stay tuned!
@@timbofromkeno i wasn't expecting an answer but it's cool you are taking into account my comment. Obviously room sound gives its needed life to our instrument, relying on close mics only would sound too dark and two dimentional.
@@Eurodrummer666 There's a balance, right? I tend to go on the far end with the room sound just because that's what people love on Instagram from me historically. And anyone can get close mic sounds, but not everyone can get that huge sound, so it's something unique that I can produce. But I also understand the practicality of hearing the sound of many different snare drums from the perspective of close mics. It gives you an even reference point, and that's important!
@@timbofromkeno perhaps some A/B sound comparison with close mics, room mics and all together would be interesting.
@@Eurodrummer666 That's an awesome idea!
Yeeeeaaaaahhhh I need that...😩😩😩😩
Yeah you do!!
Do you remember what model the Pork Pie snare was?
I wish. I feel like it was something with cherry plies in it, but it also could've been mahogany. It had a natural oil finish over the wood. And it was about a 14x6.5" snare.
I feel like DW Snare Drums nowadays has gotten better at its sonic qualities to their snares.
I guess its their lacquer on the inside shell they put on to serve for higher sonic value. Again we're comparing like a K Con low to a K Con medium 22 inch ride sort of things I mean they both sounded wonderful just DW nowadays rule!
Hey Regent! I just watched your reef tank video. So cool that you're bringing in local coral for your tank. I hope you're still having fun with that!
DW makes some great drums for sure - they aways have! What's cool about the drums today is that they have all sorts of technology that they put into them. The normal plied drums are made in a two step process. The first set of molds is hot, and then they're put into a second set of cold molds after. I believe they're they only manufacturer to do that. Pretty cool stuff!
@@timbofromkeno DW have done something innovative with their HVLT,HVX & SSC grain orientation technology. I've also noticed Noble & Cooley hot steam bent with their shells. Again it is very interesting to see a DW steam bent version before.
@@regentsaquariums5692 Yes! DW's steambent technology is incredible. For their Super Solid shells, they use what is basically a very futuristic microwave to turn the piece of wood into a bendable form that they can put into a mold to create a circle. It's incredible! If you haven't seen a video on that, you'll have to find one!
Gives a lot of the metal shells an inferiority complex.
That's some presence, especially from a wood shell.
Yeah, this one is really something special. I've never heard anything quite like it!
You’re way better than T.V.😁👍
Hahaha That’s a high compliment, John. I truly appreciate that!!
The only dw i can afford is their hardwares 🤣 but im a ludwig and yamaha guy
lol Fair!
Ruts? You mean roots? 😅
lol 😆
YOU WEAR SHORT SHORTS!
Listen, in this Wisconsin weather, I gotta stay cool somehow! 😂😂😂
@@timbofromkeno #lettheboysbreath
@@drumtravelfun 😂😂😂
I feel the same way about my different snares. It changes the feel and mood of how and what I’m playing. I’ve had a fellow drummer tell me there’s different mojos in each snare. Some you just can’t stop playing.
I also use that to justify buying more snares. I assume guitarists feel similarly about their stock of guitars.
That is 100% it. One perfect example of this is Questlove. At The Roots' studio in NYC, he has a room with a drum set and it's surrounded by walls of snare drums. He gets each to make one sound that he really likes, and then they stay that way. So, he can pull the right vibe out for the right track. Brilliant!
BTw I like your dumming and style and tuning. But no wood snare drum is going to get my Supraphonic off a gig for it.
Thanks for the kind words. I really love my Supras too. Good stuff!