Every Major Rework in Team Fortress 2: Zombie Infection
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2023
- During this Scream Fortress XV event, some major changes to the Zombie Infection gamemode have arrived recently, some of which will heavily impact gameplay and turn the tides toward giving the zombies a greater fighting chance against the mercenaries. Here's all major reworks and balancing changes, including the recent October 19th update.
Special thanks to:
@Lingulini as Medic ( / @lingulini )
@Carrottoe1867 as Engineer ( / @carrottoe1867 )
@Beefythestronk for the awesome thumbnail art ( / beefy-the-stronk ) [and] ( / beefybonk )
And YOU for watching! Please let me know if you would enjoy seeing more guides around this format!
![Creation of Mimi-Sentry [SFM]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/p1k9SIkt0Z0/mqdefault.jpg)
These update videos just make me want .. nonono, need voice lines for the Team when the zombies attack
Someone should hire these guys!
@@LinguliniI second that
Me and you both brother
thats the magic of tf2, tf2 makes you tf2
What’s this dude doing here?
I RETURN AS THE MEDIC
YeeHaw
YeeHaw
An update for TF2 was released again, including the Zombie Infection mode. They made changes, for example, in the Zombie Soldier, he no longer kills you with a single stomp, as he did before... but still, I greatly appreciate your work (And that of Pizza Tower too!).
Love ur voice
your voice for it is very good i thought it was the real va
I love how yall themed the updates as an infection evolution
Thanks! In a way, the update helped us make a small storyline
@carrottoe1867 feels like what back 4 blood should have been. In my opinion tf2's zombie infection is left 4 dead 3
@@CaptnShrekI have personally never played the left 4 dead games, but I'm glad that you see it a way that makes you happy.😄
@@carrottoe1867 they are a treat! You must someday!
@@carrottoe1867 To give a basic summary, Soldier with their leap ability is similar to the Hunter's method of attacking survivors in Left 4 Dead, Sniper's ability is similar to the Spitter in Left 4 Dead 2 including the dropped acid on death and the Heavy's ability literally being called "The Tank" pretty much means they're meant to be drawing everyone's fire to bring them down similar to the Tank in Left 4 Dead, all eyes need to be focused on the Tank otherwise things might get a bit messy.
If Valve REALLY wanted to go down the route of making this a makeshift Left 4 Dead thing, they would need to work some magic to transfer the other special infected abilities to the mode, such as the Smoker's tongue to lasso survivors away from groups, Boomer's bile to blind survivors, etc.
They turned the Soldier into the Hunter
the Heavy into the Tank
the Sniper into the Spitter
Just wait until the spy turns into a witch
Demoman is kinda a charger and the boomer combined
@@maxdong3514actually pyro is kinda more like boomer or more accurate the cut infected, the leaker.
@@lucianogastonbuetdelgado7670nah, spy is a chain-smoker, he should become the Smoker.
@@humanbeing418 Pyro is the Leaker to a T!!!!
Giving the patch notes a justifiable lore reason is so fun
Zombie soldier went from one of the worst zombies to one of the best.
No more... the stomp kill is not powerfull again... is normal. But the high he do is amazing.
@@asterlofts1565as if that matters, he can now actually take out those damn blast jumping annoyances out of the sky!
He become the hunter of tf2
The zombies still need nerfs.
@@andyfriederichsenonly the sniper zombie, hes extremely powerful and better at destroying sentries than the engineer
Despite the unexpected update debunking the last video, its was still a blast being able to reprise my role as Engi again. I hope you all enjoyed my and Lingulini's performance, and best of luck to you all out there!!🤠
Bro, I was so glad that you got to be back to do this again. You seriously got do more work man, you got alot of talent!
@landonbrown3400 Thanks a lot! It was as fun as the first time around, and I was glad to do it again.😄
Just in case, wait for another update to come out just in case... this way you will be as updated as possible.
@asterlofts1565 perhaps...🤔
@@carrottoe1867 dude send this to some of them indie studios! this could be your big chance!
The infected pyro attacking the cameraman at 8:04 is a nice touch
Gotta love the plants vs zombies reference of what engineer said lol. Made me laugh when I realized it was a reference
I'm glad you got that reference, me and Delirium we debating on it, since the original script did compared the sentries to peashooters.
@@carrottoe1867I love it omg😭
PvZ is a masterpiece.
One time on Murky map, we had "Crazy Soldier" player. Before the round had started, he played PvZ main theme, and then Crazy Dave's mumbling. When the round had started, zombie heavy managed to kill the unlucky guy, he played Dave's "NOOOOOOOOOO" sound clip. When he had joined the zombies team, he played zombie's "Braaainss" sound clip, and then kept playing one of the level themes from PvZ for the rest of the round. Lots of lols were had on the server lmao
@@velocilevon Patiently waiting for the day there's a soldier playing pvz foot soldier sound effects, surprised there wasn't a garden warfare reference here
Yeah that was awesome and it made sense for engi to say at the same time, cool reference
i love how these add lore, have references (even to plants vs zombies) and have logical conclusions of why things are different. kind of immersive. :3
OMG I KNEW IT😭
Some of the zombies are also references to Left 4 Dead too, with the Soldier being the Hunter, the Demoman being the Charger, the Pyro being the Boomer, the Heavy being the Tank, and the Sniper being the Spitter.
@@Noelle_Holiday honestly i don't think the heavy or demo are l4d references. and the pyro blowing up into fire is more of a recent thing. the demo charging and blowing up is a lot more tf2 inspired (especially cause the caber) and idk if doubled max hp can cunt as l4d tank reference other than that huge knock back he can't throw rocks.
@@Noelle_Holiday although the sniper being the spittter is 1:1 o3o
@@JimBimBumPyro is basically the Leaker cut from L4D.
I kind of hope they keep this as a yearly mode. Its too cool to be a one time thing
hope it just stays in other like VSH
@@StafkiGTN I think it should be a seasonal gamemode. Not all the time, but for halloween.
Guys it will stay, it will be moved in the misc section of the menù just like vsh
@@jhorbirnlokrisson6528nope
It will stay in TF2, there's no reason for them to remove it, but it will most likely be seasonal, since it's already Halloween themed gamemode.
VSH is also permanent - it's just in the "Misc" section of map list (scroll down to find it)
the last survivor getting 100% crits and heavies being immune to crit damage sure is the design decision of all time
He's a tank, he's slow it'll be fine, just don't get close to him or stay in one position
@@Bnvnu Que whole team of heavy zombies surrounding you anyway.
@@Bnvnu Having full crit mean nothing when there are 23 zombie rushing at you.
And a single medic can just nullify the crit by over healing everyone.
You can literally outrun zombie Heavy forever as long as you don't stuck yourself in a corner.
@diamocube5048 You can outrun a zombie heavy but not his team, and the zombie heavy main role is to draw attention which this buff make it too effective due to the majority of at least 6 player have to target that single heavy to take it down quickly while leaving the entire zombie team to just do whatever they want not to mention they could have more then 1 zombie heavy.
Zombie is supposed to be just strong and healthy enough that survivors can still quickly kill and then move on to another target because if it longer it would be a one size zombie stomp if there are at least 8 zombie and they only need a Zombie Heavy and Zombie medic combo to draw enough attention for the other to rush in.
The balance is that the survivors should have the strength upperhand but not the number because the zombie can respawn and throw body at the defend till the survivors fall. The only reason zombie seems to lose the majority before this is because of Spit from Zombie Sniper doesn't damage building, and the starting zombies is too small where 3 isn't enough.
Like, the only thing they really needed to fix is making the Zombie Sniper spit deal damage to building and more zombie spawn at the start with maybe a starting speed boost so they can run into the fight again everything else was balance.
Now human got hit with reverse psychology and always group up, so making the early infection harder and almost impossible to push into a defend unless the map is shit which most of them are.
Engi : "Beware the smell of France ! It might save your life !"
Additional effect : when a Spy is nearby, a picture of a croissant 🥐 appears in the upleft corner of your screen. The closer he gets, the clearer the picture becomes (applies to both human and zombie Spies, you gonna love them even more)
I genuinely can’t wait for a 100-person big gmod-style tf2 zombies map, I would join that community server in a heartbeat 😂
hydro
Did....you reference crazy dave from pvz with "a bunch of weeds from a crazy pot head"? . This is absolutely incredible and feels official like valve itself did. Love the work on this
You bet we did, Delirium was the one that decided to compare the sentries to peashooters. This gave me an idea for an improved joke, to reference PVZ. And I'm glad so many people have caught that! 😆
I love that there are so much love to these new modes, they could just slap the mode in, fix a bit and call it the day, but no, they balance, fix and rework on things around the mode. I love it.
To the community and team who work on the game rn, I salute you.
Indeed, i'm glad this gamemode didn't just have the same life and death of the VSH gamemode, which was my concern for this
Despite then fact that this update make zombie win 95% of the times.
@@Aibadenshi Lmao in what world? a nest with heavies and medics would destroy zombies quickly
@@CheeseInTheOven Now that is just wishful thinking.
is this official
Oh great heavens, these zombies buff seem like they are gonna give survivors a harder time, and i welcome the challenge.
The voice acting and lore update is always such a delightful treat. I have some gripes about some of the balances, but it's such a fun mode, and the community never disappoints.
This voice acting is incredible! Hat's off to both voice actors and scripters for making balance changes not just interesting, but actually genuinely very fun to watch!
Nice seeing the voice actors* back, that alongside the editing really elevates the video! TY have a good one.
I was glad that people wanted us to perform again, I'm glad you enjoyed our work again!😄
"Beware the smell of france!" is the best sentence I've heard in q while 😂🤣
Bro the Peashooter and Crazy Pothead pun is SO CLEVER 💀💀💀
Thank you! I'm glad that we were able to add my improve line, originally it would have ended with the just the comparison of sentries to peashooters.😄
I’m just glad the zombies can actually attack the sentries now
Edit: Nevermind they seriously nerfed the hell out of sentries
Yeah, like I think some of the nerf to sentries were a bit munch. Like I do like the sniper spit does damage to building and buff the sapper bomb, but I think the sentry damage should be 50% and heavy zombie is little too good. Like heavy was already good to take down sentries(high hp and one shot sentry)
@@starmaker75 | Keep in mind how slow the fellow is, and how sentries can often be placed in high-up spots that are hard for him to reach.
The way the video was presented was beautiful! I could imagine that the medic and engineer being the most logically scientific and medical professionals to delve into the topic of zombified mercs into such detail, very well made!
Welp this mode went from "Demoknight and engineer OP" to "zombies overpower humans no matter what". Hell despite what the patch notes said about "not affecting roaming" for humans it did affect it to the point where you're discouraged to not base with everyone else.
Anywho, good quality video man.
I played this mode in the vry beginning and tbh I prefer the new updates, actually makes it fun to play as zombies and terrifying but still fun to play as humans, unlike previously
This kind of infection concept for tf2, although not new in gaming nor tf2 necessarily, brings such a fresh breath of life to the game and I’m here for it
All the voice impressions in this video are REALLY good! Cool vid!
I havent heard better Medic/Engi voice impressions
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed our performances 😄
I remember the earlier days of this update... When soldier could barley jump and 2 engines could obliterate entire hoards of undead...
I love this way to show the patch notes, new sub
5:46 love the reference. It's amazing
Thank you, me and delirium were debating on adding my improv to the script, since he was the one to compare the sentries to peashooters in the final script. I'm glad that we got to extend line to include it!😄
Voice Acting was pretty good, explanations were wonderful. thank you .
this makes the game mode 10x better! great job on getting this out so quickly!
At this point...
It seems like..
We're left for dead.
Indeed, it all just feels like a half-life
I really enjoy the idea of explaining weapon reworks or additions in Character/in universe. Would love to see it for a major update that adds new weapons... if we even get another one of those
Thank you for reusing this music for this vid as well. It perfectly resembles all the hopelessness for Survivors, especially after all those changes
Love this style of video keep it up man
Ok, you guys have to keep doing collabs like theses! You both do amazing work and I would love to see more videos like these. (May like tips for gamemodes or playing classes as the characters) No matter what you guys do, I really looking forward to both of you guys' next work!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed our work!!😆
Infected code names:
Soldier- unfortunate son
Pyro- hell hound
Scout- home runner
Demoman- bomb-cy-clop
Heavy- motherland tank
Engieneer- outlaw
Medic- richt-o-walker
Sniper- spitter
Spy- revenant
wouldn't scout be better suited as speed demon like how the Ability is named
@@SunkermacGunker kinda, but i wanted to be more creative with its nickname
@@untipogracioso3038 you could call him the home runner
@@SunkermacGunker !, on it.
Done.
@@untipogracioso3038 hell yeah
I love the lore reasons you came up with for the rebalances!!!
I love how this is presented and how its not just some guy discussing changes to the gamemode.
They might as well have just replaced the Sentrys with actual Peashooters, repeaters, and threepeaters respectively considering how minuscule there damage is now. Can you even get a kill with a sentry now?
Glad shotguns still work, guess we filled them with bombs or something.
Bravo to everyone!
I loved the little pvz reference too
Thanks! Me and Delirium came up with that one😄
Esses reworks ficaram incríveis
Amazing video... AND AMAZING THUMBNAIL!
i like how it has a story for these changes
Now its extremely hard for red to win. I love this update and zombie infection in general. Hopefully it becomes an all year gamemode on casual or at least run on community servers year round :)
Sickest patch notes i’ve ever watched lol love this!
5:49 I love that they went so far as to even reference crazy Dave and pvz in the voicelines
As a engineer main, i feel f*cked over
I like that format so much
Love the amount of efforts being out into this! Update? No it's the evolution. Heavy evolution? xD
🤔
Loved the de-briefing!
I love how the one voicing engie did a PvZ reference regarding his sentry.
It was a fun improv for me to do. Delirium was the one that originally compared the sentries to peashooters when he was making the script. So I propose the improv to him, to reference one of the best tower defense games out there!😆
This is such a cute concept. This video, I mean. Very clever use of the characters to describe the patch-notes.
(Also asking the help of actual voice actors!!)
I'm glad you enjoyed our work!😆
I think Spy being able to attack before uncloaking is a total oversight. It might seem worse for the actual zombie to have to use melee first to uncloak but it’s more fair to the humans. It gives the humans a chance to respond first if they aren’t paying attention.
Nah, Spy needs that otherwise he's worse than every other class. His reveal ability is next to useless anyway, as everyone knows where the survivors are holding up. It's only useful against a Scout that's running around the map or someone that's hiding. Plus, he doesn't 1 hit kill you. If he had to decloak first, he wouldn't be able to do anything to players camping by a sentry. On top of that, you can still see him while he's cloaked. Players still have full advantage against the Spy.
Also the particle effects are still there.
@@meem6154that especially, he's still visible even when "cloaked"
@@meem6154im not sure if the particle effects are still there with configs
damn. this is real & looks badass. Hope there's no bots when i get on & try this gamemode out cause it sure does look awesome
Thanks for the video :)
"I think a bunch of weeds from a crazy pothead would have a better chance than this' here hunk-a junk!"
**PvZ March intensifies**
Lol. But, yeah, me and Delirium were debating on adding my improv line. Because he was the one that originally compared the sentries to peashooters in the final script, I'm glad it made it into the final cut, and that many people caught the reference 😆
This is sooo cool the way your guys show your work in the new mod as lore is super nice to be real here i was not a big fan of the zombi infection mode ik the start but this buffs look very good to make the mod more balanced can't wait ti check it out keep up the good work :D(also brazillian representation lets goooo irmaos br!!!!!!)
The subtle PvZ reference got me, I'm loving these update videos!
It would be amazing if VALVe decides to make this an actual gamemode! Anyways, I really love the major reworks to the gamemode.
unique and well made I like this and wana see more like this
That one guy doing the Smoker sound effects in VC what a legend
Ya, zombies are to op now. Heavy needs to not be immune to some/all crits. It makes the last few survivor's crits literally meaningless. Also, sniper was powerful being able to insta kill all the zombies in one shot with some skill. I felt it was necessary, since otherwise there isn't really a reason to play sniper. Demo also needs to not get uber when charging his blast charge. It makes it so demo's don't have to think about what they are doing, since if they die during the charge itself they will still blow up. Making it so that they don't get uber means that they can't just walk up and then start the charge when they have 1 hp and still kill people.
Yeah zombie heavy is epesically too powerful. It basically makes the last stand perk pointless and he was already good against senties.
@starmaker75 Also, his effective health is ridiculous.
Now if only the zombie Heavy finally got a big nerf.
adorable presentation i love it
Me: Mom. Can we get l4d2?
Mom: No. We have l4d2 at home
L4d2 at home:
that medic voice is spot on!
I love the pvz reference when engie talks about his shit sentry
This is like if TF2 and L4D was mashed together in a blender, and I love it!
Left 4 Fortress? Or Team 4 Dead?
@@Noelle_HolidayDead 4tress 2
Tbh I think the humans defitenetely need some buffs
I think the ones that need it are sniper, scout and medic. The rest are pretty solid
@@zerbit6969Medic should've had the ability to use his medigun on zombies. The healing effect would deal damage to zombies but at half the rate of what the medigun would deal if it was healing someone. (Ie. The medigun would deal 12 damage per second as opposed to 24 per second if it were healing a teammate)
Granted, to balance it so that Medics wouldn't just equip the Quick Fix and go doom eternal in a server, make it so that the heal beam doesn't autolock on a zombie target unless the zombie actually walks in front of the mediguns beam.
@@Dannybythebanana or instead of using his medibeam, he has passive healing buffs depending on the weapon. And make so the vaccinator has an actual use (like nerfing the melee damage depending on which class is attacking your teammate, explosive sgield for demo and soldier, fire for pyro and bullet to some classes, some zombies being able to deal normal damage)
@@zerbit6969 I think probally give all humans some sort of resistance and damge buffs. And scout's secondary gets some small buff?
@@Qp_Playz scout should have a lot of secondary buffs tbh, not big buffs, but ones you can actually notice. Also, scout should have some hp buffs, he is useless in the late games
Very fun watch.
"beware the smell of France" engineer 2023
They missed the chance to make it so sniper could pee the liquid directly into his enemies.
Straight from the source.
i like how Medic and Engineer just screams every time they talk
This is fucking awesome, subbed.
about the pvz reference, i actually once had almost an entire team of engies set up a PVZ lawn in the devestation map, right outside the room with the vent on the bottom floor
Thats fun that the camera man gets eaten by the zombie pyro in the instructional video.
Pothead with a bunch of weeds? I know this guy named Dave, he's pretty crazy though.
He wouldn't happen to have any Twiddydinks now would he?
I really enjoyed the VA and the way you presented it, however I do feel like the gameplay showcasing the new changes could've been shortened.
Love the flavor of these
It's a good thing I got most of my survival challenges out of the way before this update.
the sudden smoker bit immediately threw me off xD
They are voicing even changes, community tf2 is a literally gold
5:47 yoooo pvz reference
Yup, when me and Delirium were going over the script for Engi, he decided to compare the sentries to peashooters. Which allow me to present a improv that reference the ultimate tower defense game out there.😄
I like the little reference to plants vs. zombies at 5:50, just somewhat makes you think that in that universe plants vs. zombies was made in the 1970s
This Video is amazing
Por incrível que pareça, o gamemode parece mais balanceado, por mais que os zumbis tenham apenas recebido buffs
(For the english speakers out there, i'm basically talking about how the gamemode looks more balanced now, despite the reworks being pretty much just buffing zombies)
Well they need those buffs as they can be easily be counter by engineer-heavy combo.
Seriously I'm glad they other ways to deal with sentry.
@@starmaker75 Yeah but at same time everything else on human team just sucks ass now. Can't even roam around the map anymore.
@@starmaker75yeah, you need a big ass push to counter that. I think they should change cloak and put backstab to zombie spies
Unique video 👍
8:04 The most disturbing thing about zombies in TF2..... IS THAT THEY CAN KILL THE CAMERAMAN!!!!!
this video is fantastic
It's like watching a live feed of the apocalypse and it ain't looking pretty over there for the mercs
Incredible
the meme at the end was hilarious
That zombie spy buff might just be too much....
You can still see the trail zombies leave when they walk
You mean smell, right?
@@carrottoe1867 just call it green effect
The problem I have with spy zombies is that I can basically see them just the same as anybody else. I can lay tomislav fire on those glowing eyes from far enough away that the invisibility barely concerns me
This is so cool
Scout as the Jockey,Soldier as the Hunter,Heavy as the Tank,Pyro as the Boomer,Engineer as the Smoker,Sniper as the Spitter,Demo as the Charger and lastly Spy also as the Witch but the same as the Hunter as well? Cause blending in with environment seems like his things as well among the infected to get people lower their guard and attack when the time right
Btw a few things about bugs and changes;
Bugs;
-Sound for what ever reason is cut out after a few rounds but only for a few sounds. Things like the lightning strike and more important spies decloaking simply don't make sounds
-If the game is over and a zombie changes classes, they'll spawn on the red team, which is pretty harmless
-If you leave Zombie Infection, go to a new server, and join blue, the icons for Zombies will be there instead
-The Vodo cosmetic that appears on each map should at least be hidden if it's a bug.
changes I thing vast majority of people would like
-Highlight the last survivor always. No one wants to spam Spy at the end to find one guy. It's a huge waste of everyone's time because they usually are found anyways
-Give Zombie Spy and Engineer some new niche. I didn't know the particle effects on Spy were intentional, which frankly makes his invisibly completely useless outside of finding the last survivor. He can reveal Spies but human spies have shitty disguises too since they look like Blu humans. Engineer is also nearly 100% useless if not detrimental. You can literally just go Sniper to do 100% Engineer's thing but better. Not to mention using Heavy or Demo to take down Sentries.
-Speaking of Sentries, Sniper should be able to do direct damage to them with his spit. It's kind of annoying that you don't even get an acid pool if you accidentally hit the Sentry instead of near it.
-NERF Baby Face Blaster, Sticky Jumper, and Rocket Jumper. Yeah you can use to get them as counterplay, but its ridiculously annoying AND it also screws over the humans too. Some douche will run away the entire game and not contribute anything, making it so rest of the humans have 1 less human helping them.