This one to size - you place the pin in with the thin end first, opposite the arrows - and the trick? You place the collar in from the outside above the arrow and use a big punch to to slide it in and around the pin - that’s how it’s done. The collar resides in the end link above the arrow, the other collar is t a collar, it’s the thick end of the pin - thus the thick end resides in the end link opposite the arrow and the actual collar needs to be pushed in over the pin above the arrow.
I like Seiko. There's a good reason that so many producers copy their designs and use their movements. However, I'm beginning to think that they're copying Invicta's pricing structure. That is to say that, in my opinion, if you pay more than half of Seiko's MSRP, you simply aren't getting a good value for your money. If they would at least standardize sapphire crystals, ceramic bezel inserts, and milled clasps, I'd feel better about it. But in actuality, at the $525 price, there are honest Swiss autos available that I would rather have.
That is a Beautiful watch! I love Seikos and have owned more than a few. I bought my first one when I was 18 and it still wears well. This one may be my next Seiko. Great Review Randy! 👍👍👍
Not going to lie I was scrolling UA-cam and saw the thumbnail and thought "WTF is up with the massive crown on that Seiko?" Your ring got me for a second 😂😂
Admitted Seiko fan boy here. Love Seiko, just wish they would up the stats a bit. Even $100 divers come with a sapphire crystal these days. They also really need to update the clasp. My mods are like Seiko the way they should be, including the price. Great vid man!
Seiko really need to start using sapphire crystal and lose the pressed clasps on the bracelet some aliexpress clomages have much better specs for a fraction of the price
The turtle is an iconic Seiko design, but I simply don't like pillow-type cases. I'm more of a fan of Seiko's original diver, the 62MAS, and their horological terror, the Tuna. I do like the colorway of this watch, though. Now if that colorway found itself to, say, the Monster, well...
I have a King turtle last month and I think it was a most stylish dive watch with such an affordable price, and the most watch's enthusiasm wanted sapphire crystal come with the "candy" magnifier day and date displays window, plus the ceramic bezel , new design grenade surface dial, 200m water resistant, screwdown crown and the very wearable silicone strap....all the bells and whistle in one.
I have the mini turtle and the bracelet has the same collar placement as the turtle. Very difficult, found a video where his trick was to use a ball point pen on the side of the collar and whatever you used the initially drive the pin out. Have to push at the same time to drive pin in and keep the collar from popping out. It is without a doubt the hardest bracelet to size
Got one 3 weeks ago. The jewellery store I got it from tried to adjust the bracelet for me unsuccessfully. They had to take it to a watch maker/specialist. Thankfully he sorted it.
Now that's a turtle to purchase. I do like that one, but Citizen is my goto diver at the moment, but others in the seiko range I'm looking at. SKZ211K1 is my next watch, but it will only be purchased after my Africa trip. Thank for your review and time sharing this with us all. Take care brother.
Like most Seiko's, the head of the watch is great but the bracelet is just meh. I bet this one would look great on a blue or green tropic strap...nice watch and vid...
they're huge companies that have actual design departments, marketing, and they pay their people a living wage. Chlomage brands have zero overhead and most of the time even manufacturing costs. In other industries I've been a part of when the lights get turned out at the factory a group comes back in and turns on the machines and make their brand... ton of specs for the money with chlomages but I'll pay more to support a company that has way more skin in the game. appreciate you watching, my friend.
@@cheapwatchman_official Seiko and citizen, even entry tier Swiss brands outsource to lower cost Asian manufacturers for parts. My Citizen Eco Drive Promaster was made in Malaysia. It's a great watch, but when they ask nearly $300, it should have sapphire. Don't try to tell me that the sapphire crystal on a sub $500 "Swiss Made" Hamilton, for example, is made in Switzerland. I can see a price discrepancy, but three or four times the price without such a basic modern feature doesn't wash. This applies most to Seiko. The Citizen NY0086 you recently reviewed is still competitive even with mineral because it's awesome and they don't gouge like Seiko. But in 2023, the flat sapphire crystals in standard sizes could be had these days in bulk purchase at well under $10 each. Today, I consider it a must above basic level.
Nice watch but adding a saphire crystal and milled clasp and maybe a ceramic bezel would add, what, a $100 to the price? I would pay the extra $100 for better specs.
Got my King Turtle geen for £360 which I thought was a bargain, even on rubber, all the usual Seiko shiite delt with, sapirre, hacks and ceramic. Evrything lines up too but, it runs fast even after regulating and it still has a plastic date cog that breaks and the magnifying glass is horrible.
it's funny that you say that. I've heard that from others as well. Anecdotally, I've recently had 6 seikos in and none had a single issue. I've had 3 San Martins and every single one of them had something wrong with it. I actually have a Tissot with a misaligned bezel and bezel pip. Actually going to try to do a warranty on it
It’s the internet echo chamber. Somebody says ‘QC issues’ and people with no personal experience of any issues jump on the bandwagon. It’s not just with Seiko and it’s not just with watches.
@@drummerboy1390 completely agree but, when I’m spending that money (granted, not a ton) I do expect that the little things line up. I understand a cheaper bracelet or clasp but, I’ve got very old analog watches that hit every mark and they’re, quite honestly, cheap junk.
@@cheapwatchman_official , I have seen that same detail on Citizen as well. I would prefer a no lume second hand rather than one with the lume on the back end. I am glad that I am not the only one.
I had some I used for reloading and one of the tips broke off. I also don't consider myself a watch reviewer all though reluctantly I'll probably be buying another pair of calipers and a time grapher.
I disclosed the affiliate links and I can show you the receipts. I bought both of these watches at Jomashop retail and I'm just trying to help people save a buck or two. thanks for watching and commenting though.
What up, 9MMM! Good to see you here. Can I call you 9M3 from now on? Would have been cool to have sapphire for sure but the bezel on this thing is groovy to me.
This one to size - you place the pin in with the thin end first, opposite the arrows - and the trick? You place the collar in from the outside above the arrow and use a big punch to to slide it in and around the pin - that’s how it’s done. The collar resides in the end link above the arrow, the other collar is t a collar, it’s the thick end of the pin - thus the thick end resides in the end link opposite the arrow and the actual collar needs to be pushed in over the pin above the arrow.
I like Seiko. There's a good reason that so many producers copy their designs and use their movements. However, I'm beginning to think that they're copying Invicta's pricing structure. That is to say that, in my opinion, if you pay more than half of Seiko's MSRP, you simply aren't getting a good value for your money. If they would at least standardize sapphire crystals, ceramic bezel inserts, and milled clasps, I'd feel better about it. But in actuality, at the $525 price, there are honest Swiss autos available that I would rather have.
you are not wrong
That is a Beautiful watch! I love Seikos and have owned more than a few. I bought my first one when I was 18 and it still wears well. This one may be my next Seiko. Great Review Randy! 👍👍👍
we're going to be bad influences on each other, brother. Don't pull the trigger on one just yet. We may be able to work something out
Not going to lie I was scrolling UA-cam and saw the thumbnail and thought "WTF is up with the massive crown on that Seiko?" Your ring got me for a second 😂😂
lol. unintentional but now I will do it for every thumbnail
@@cheapwatchman_official lol fair enough 😂. That would be a 🐢 of a different flavor!
Admitted Seiko fan boy here. Love Seiko, just wish they would up the stats a bit. Even $100 divers come with a sapphire crystal these days. They also really need to update the clasp. My mods are like Seiko the way they should be, including the price. Great vid man!
I have the Arnie in the same colorway. Looks amazing.
tell me they're still available!!!!!
Nice looking watch, but pretty expensive considering no sapphire crystal.
would be great if it did have one
Seiko really need to start using sapphire crystal and lose the pressed clasps on the bracelet some aliexpress clomages have much better specs for a fraction of the price
The turtle is an iconic Seiko design, but I simply don't like pillow-type cases. I'm more of a fan of Seiko's original diver, the 62MAS, and their horological terror, the Tuna. I do like the colorway of this watch, though. Now if that colorway found itself to, say, the Monster, well...
I have a King turtle last month and I think it was a most stylish dive watch with such an affordable price, and the most watch's enthusiasm wanted sapphire crystal come with the "candy" magnifier day and date displays window, plus the ceramic bezel , new design grenade surface dial, 200m water resistant, screwdown crown and the very wearable silicone strap....all the bells and whistle in one.
I have the mini turtle and the bracelet has the same collar placement as the turtle. Very difficult, found a video where his trick was to use a ball point pen on the side of the collar and whatever you used the initially drive the pin out. Have to push at the same time to drive pin in and keep the collar from popping out. It is without a doubt the hardest bracelet to size
Got one 3 weeks ago. The jewellery store I got it from tried to adjust the bracelet for me unsuccessfully. They had to take it to a watch maker/specialist. Thankfully he sorted it.
Always take your watches to a watchmaker, not a jeweler.
Just do it yourself, it ain’t difficult.
You’ll probably get better warranty service from Joma than Seiko 😂 that color way is awesome.
good point
Now that's a turtle to purchase. I do like that one, but Citizen is my goto diver at the moment, but others in the seiko range I'm looking at. SKZ211K1 is my next watch, but it will only be purchased after my Africa trip. Thank for your review and time sharing this with us all. Take care brother.
Simon! Love you brother
Really enjoy your reviews, and your format. Personally I don’t like the turtle ( cushion case), but you can’t go wrong with a Seiko Diver.
the more I wore it the more I liked it. Kind of a convert I think. thanks so much for watching
Thanks Randy love your reviews. This watch is pretty sweet
thank you for watching. really appreciate it
Great colorway. Looks like a keeper.
For sure. I love it
I really enjoy your reviews! I've just started watching them over the last few days and finally subscribed! Keep up the great work!
Welcome aboard! thanks so much. you should check out my other channel cheap audio man if you like hifi, home theater, or headphone stuff
Like most Seiko's, the head of the watch is great but the bracelet is just meh. I bet this one would look great on a blue or green tropic strap...nice watch and vid...
Best turtle IMO???? SRPC44 gold turtle all day long
I love my 🐢. The tropic turtle is very nice.
Why does Seiko (and Citizen) insist on not using sapphire when other watches around $100 do?
Too much baggage and mouths to feed. Too much laws and regulations. Chinese brands can use slave labor.
they're huge companies that have actual design departments, marketing, and they pay their people a living wage. Chlomage brands have zero overhead and most of the time even manufacturing costs. In other industries I've been a part of when the lights get turned out at the factory a group comes back in and turns on the machines and make their brand... ton of specs for the money with chlomages but I'll pay more to support a company that has way more skin in the game. appreciate you watching, my friend.
@@cheapwatchman_official Seiko and citizen, even entry tier Swiss brands outsource to lower cost Asian manufacturers for parts. My Citizen Eco Drive Promaster was made in Malaysia. It's a great watch, but when they ask nearly $300, it should have sapphire. Don't try to tell me that the sapphire crystal on a sub $500 "Swiss Made" Hamilton, for example, is made in Switzerland. I can see a price discrepancy, but three or four times the price without such a basic modern feature doesn't wash. This applies most to Seiko. The Citizen NY0086 you recently reviewed is still competitive even with mineral because it's awesome and they don't gouge like Seiko. But in 2023, the flat sapphire crystals in standard sizes could be had these days in bulk purchase at well under $10 each. Today, I consider it a must above basic level.
I like the save the ocean model a lot too
good review. Seiko is too expensive now. Orient too. 100% increase in price from 2019
Nice watch but adding a saphire crystal and milled clasp and maybe a ceramic bezel would add, what, a $100 to the price? I would pay the extra $100 for better specs.
Thanks! Love the channel.
You're my first Super Thanks!!!!!!!! You're the best, Ned Flanders. I'm a big fan of yours
@@cheapwatchman_official woohoo!!
Got my King Turtle geen for £360 which I thought was a bargain, even on rubber, all the usual Seiko shiite delt with, sapirre, hacks and ceramic. Evrything lines up too but, it runs fast even after regulating and it still has a plastic date cog that breaks and the magnifying glass is horrible.
I like the King Samurai better. The Manta Ray save the ocean is gorgeous
I’ve stayed away from Seiko because of their recent QC issues. That’s not to say I don’t have a ton on wish lists everywhere.
it's funny that you say that. I've heard that from others as well. Anecdotally, I've recently had 6 seikos in and none had a single issue. I've had 3 San Martins and every single one of them had something wrong with it. I actually have a Tissot with a misaligned bezel and bezel pip. Actually going to try to do a warranty on it
@@cheapwatchman_official might have to pick one and just go with it. The issue now is, which one? This one’s been on my list.
It’s the internet echo chamber. Somebody says ‘QC issues’ and people with no personal experience of any issues jump on the bandwagon. It’s not just with Seiko and it’s not just with watches.
@@drummerboy1390 completely agree but, when I’m spending that money (granted, not a ton) I do expect that the little things line up. I understand a cheaper bracelet or clasp but, I’ve got very old analog watches that hit every mark and they’re, quite honestly, cheap junk.
Very good, entertaining review. Thanks for posting.
thank you for watching
E molto più bello questo di Seiko Padi SRPE99K1, viene fornito con la scatola speciale Padi,
Very nice piece would change out the strap
Yeah. Agreed
It's about time you got into some Seiko divers
I’m ashamed it’s taken this long
@@cheapwatchman_official better late than never.
the one thing that bothers me is the lume on the second hand is not ont the point but on the back balance circle.
yeah. there must be a reason because the Citizen Iso rated diver had the exact same design. I found it strange too
@@cheapwatchman_official , I have seen that same detail on Citizen as well. I would prefer a no lume second hand rather than one with the lume on the back end. I am glad that I am not the only one.
You should review Loreo watches super value a lot of watch for the low money they work great and has many high end features
Nice turtle, got to be next on my shopping list, must resist.
give in to the dark side... you don't know the power it brings... just kidding. if you don't need it don't buy it
@@cheapwatchman_official I completely agree, it’s easy to be drawn to shiny new things, I am liking your attitude
Is that the type of bracelet with a small collar on each end of the pin? Like the Mini Turtle? If so, those are a big hassle. But nice watch!
that would be the one, my friend.
@@cheapwatchman_official Marc has a good Watch and Learn video about those bracelets. That’s the only way I got my Mini Turtle back together.
Your viewership is climbing fast.
Hope so. I hadn't been concentrating on this channel enough. My other channel pays the bills but this is hobby channel.
@@cheapwatchman_official do you do your own animation? Half the reason I click on your videos is to watch the opening animation.
Out of Stock 😮😮
Hey… you’re good.
*Subscribed*
Best value for money.
The cheap watchman bought two Tutors and a Deep Sea. Cheap indeed.
thanks so much for watching
Do you think its too big for 6.75 inch . wrist?
I hate when my Watches get scratched i keep them in the best condition i can .
no. lug to lug is super short
Why don’t you own callipers?
I had some I used for reloading and one of the tips broke off. I also don't consider myself a watch reviewer all though reluctantly I'll probably be buying another pair of calipers and a time grapher.
I saw this on sale at Mimo's and I was SO tempted but I already had 2 watches incoming. I love this ridiculous hobby.
I dig it!
I dig this comment!
I love seiko design but I hate their lousy unregulated movements! Annoying!
Miata!
Not getting a paid promotion warning yet the name of a certain shop is mentioned like 5 times in 90 seconds already...yeah no I'll abort here
I disclosed the affiliate links and I can show you the receipts. I bought both of these watches at Jomashop retail and I'm just trying to help people save a buck or two. thanks for watching and commenting though.
No sapphire is a deal breaker.
Sorry, gotta be sapphire.
What up, 9MMM! Good to see you here. Can I call you 9M3 from now on? Would have been cool to have sapphire for sure but the bezel on this thing is groovy to me.
Take my upvote for one of the best bands of all time !! CLUTCH !!
@@charliewaffles3158 You have great taste in music.
I'd rather buy an islander
I'm glad. I'd rather give Marc my money too. Good news is he carries this watch as well.
Come on, Seiko. Hardlex crystal, aluminium no lume bezel, rattling bracelet, that stamped clasp…the world moved on a while ago. It’s a no from me.