Why Are Christians so Divided Across the World? | Searching for the Historical Jesus

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  • @grybnyx
    @grybnyx 2 роки тому +10

    But doesn't EVERY denomination believe it has gone to root of the New Testament and discerned the true meaning of Jesus' message? Never answered is the question of why any god would allow such confusion to prevail among the little clay creatures he made and supposedly loves so much.

    • @tmo4330
      @tmo4330 2 роки тому +4

      God is not the author of confusion. The devil tries to kill, steal, and destroy. There are many false gods. Only one God, capital G.

    • @oneilluminatus
      @oneilluminatus 2 роки тому

      Well said 👍👍👍

    • @jorgel.4406
      @jorgel.4406 Рік тому +1

      As a Christian I don't think we are fragmented, different denominations have more essential beliefs in common than differences. Besides we can have our doctrines in check, if some denomination starts to deviate, we can call them out, unlike the Catholic church.

    • @eternalstudent7461
      @eternalstudent7461 Рік тому

      I've been taught that the many denominations keep evil on the run, the confusion serves a purpose. The Word is the same everywhere, always, regardless of people's choices or interpretations of how to follow the teachings of Jesus ❤

    • @MusicalRaichu
      @MusicalRaichu Рік тому

      Division is caused by human nature. Everyone likes to be right. But from God's point of view, all followers of Jesus are united belonging to the same Jesus. They are united whether they like it or not.

  • @maagu4779
    @maagu4779 5 місяців тому +1

    Why are so many Christians divided across the world? I don't know! Did you "talk" to any of them? What did they say?
    No, no...not what you say...what they say!
    Oh I'm sorry I spoke out of line.

  • @djy69
    @djy69 2 роки тому +6

    Man's intervention.... Done. Boom 💥

  • @SuddenRevelations-wz1ne
    @SuddenRevelations-wz1ne 9 місяців тому +1

    Watched this program on Prime. A cleaver web of lies and trickery. Jesus healed like a physician that understood the power of the mind. Mary Magdalene was Jesus lover. Wow. Wow. Wow. What was missing is Jesus the Son of God. Read Mark 12:1-10 for that. Jesus came to die for the sins of mankind and will come again to judge the wicked. As the apostle Paul said all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. It is through Jesus sacrifice and our accepting Him as Lord and Savior that we are saved.

  • @joannmaracle2672
    @joannmaracle2672 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much to the lecturer I thoroughly enjoyed this. Please do more of these ❤😊

  • @KGroza
    @KGroza 4 місяці тому

    I started watching this series and found it amazing that the host can tell us exactly what Jesus was thinking, why he did various actions and that he was not the messiah…honestly this was made to strengthen Christ deniers and put a seed of doubt in believers…if they buy this narrative.

  • @thesunnova111
    @thesunnova111 Рік тому +1

    Isn't man cursed from the beginning? Maybe there are so many different options to keep man confused and the purpose of life is to be not confused and that's how you find God like a great maze.

  • @JoeLoughlin-l8d
    @JoeLoughlin-l8d 9 місяців тому +1

    If we were meant to have all the answers and know the mind of God, then the Bible would not have evolved as it has. He wishes us to search the scriptures, listen for the Holy Spirit, and pay attention to the important stuff. Love God, love your neighbor. Listen,learn, live, and obey.

    • @Fred-Phelps
      @Fred-Phelps 7 місяців тому

      yes so true but we also fail to obey the commandment to love one another which refers to our relationship with other Christians instead we are divided by denominational ties.
      however many of these churches are just offshoots of offshoots and are not worth attending. we don't need any more denominations.

  • @wruff378
    @wruff378 2 роки тому +1

    The essential teachings of Jesus' ministry...
    Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."..
    On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”...
    Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you?"..
    From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
    - John 6

    • @optioningthabears861
      @optioningthabears861 2 роки тому

      Maybe Mathew chapter 5 is a better example it is not in riddles. I'm just saying.

  • @alonzowitt5931
    @alonzowitt5931 Рік тому

    It's a no brainer to know truth concerning salvation, read the book of Acts..... This book tells us what the plan of salvation is and what the early churches believed and taught! That has never changed, man changed it! Obey Acts 2:38-47. 8:11-14. 10:43-48. 19:1-7. 22:16... Roman 6:1-12. Galatians 3:27..

  • @wmschooley1234
    @wmschooley1234 2 роки тому +7

    Q. Why Are Christians so Divided
    A. Fractured fairy tales?? Lots and lots of fractured fairy tales.

    • @Kelberi
      @Kelberi 2 роки тому

      Savage!

    • @eugenecrawford14
      @eugenecrawford14 2 роки тому

      Mythical fairy tales that became science fiction stories

  • @ianmorris8900
    @ianmorris8900 2 роки тому +2

    He started his ministry at 30, then 31, 32,and 33 so his ministry was during 4 Years!

    • @paulwright7551
      @paulwright7551 10 місяців тому

      Yet this idiot claims that the gospels make it "clear" it was about 18 months! Horrible show

  • @MarkMatthewsmarked4words
    @MarkMatthewsmarked4words 9 місяців тому +1

    Speaking of authorship, who are you? In all sincerity, I missed your name and credentials.

  • @nancypiedlow1501
    @nancypiedlow1501 2 роки тому +3

    Why are we so divided and have so much to lose?

    • @a.randomjack6661
      @a.randomjack6661 2 роки тому

      It's called tribalism

    • @goestovbhudi8716
      @goestovbhudi8716 2 роки тому +1

      Because a) gods are human inventions and b) many don't believe that there is anything to lose?

  • @deviousxen
    @deviousxen 2 роки тому +1

    The answer is 'Grifters' Or 'Diversity' And I'm too tired to wait for the two to finish annihilating each other or synthesizing.

  • @abellsalang
    @abellsalang Рік тому

    If we see Jesus as a bringer of religion, we will always be divided but If we understand him as a King establishing his Kingdom on earth thro those who believes, believers can unites becos we are of the same Kingdom under King Jesus

  • @traffickxng
    @traffickxng Рік тому

    God has one denomination and it's called holiness

  • @jenna2431
    @jenna2431 2 роки тому +5

    It's hilarious to me that Christians can't even decide if their premier "sacrament" of baptism is dip, dunk, or dry clean. SOME of you are clearly getting it wrong.

    • @ericjones1289
      @ericjones1289 Рік тому

      Yes Jenna the whole thing is hilarious.
      And your question is spot on.
      THEY are all wrong.
      Every branch and every type of religion is just the product of someone's imagination.
      An explanation created to provide an answer to their questions. Don't forget that whomever has the answers, they have you in their power.

  • @hol-upLIL-bit
    @hol-upLIL-bit 2 роки тому +4

    last thing i would do is turn to a christian for an explanation on this 😂😂😂

  • @theresacoleman-bagley5068
    @theresacoleman-bagley5068 9 місяців тому

    At least, this has us thinking and talking. Faith seems to be the component that is missing from this series. It's based only what can be proven...which it does show changes and grows with time.

  • @lightningstrikestwice6302
    @lightningstrikestwice6302 2 роки тому +11

    Lack of critical thinking skills?

    • @johncox2865
      @johncox2865 2 роки тому

      Lack of thinking skills. No Religion encourages individual thought.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 2 роки тому +23

    Ahh, to be alive when Christianity goes the way of the Greek and Roman Gods.

    • @williamromine5715
      @williamromine5715 2 роки тому +3

      You may be quite surprised, especially if you view it with an open mind and heart.Harking back to a much earlier movie, "it is the greatest story ever told".

    • @mikem820
      @mikem820 2 роки тому +5

      @@williamromine5715 as a former altar boy I still have nightmares of these monsters that you proclaim are part of the ‘greatest story ever told’. I think you mean the ‘greatest horror story ever told’

    • @williamromine5715
      @williamromine5715 2 роки тому +8

      @@mikem820 No, as an altar boy, I mean what I said. I don't write things I don't mean. Sorry for your experience. Mine was great. I developed a love of God and His church. Has the Church made mistakes? Yes it has, it's made up of fallible humans. But, the good far outweighs the few bad evil people to desecrated their oaths. They are probably anqishing in hell for their evil acts.

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 2 роки тому +2

      @@mikem820 - That monstrosity called "Christianity" will eventually go the way of the Dodo. Too bad that we won't live to see it, though.

    • @PaulTheVawl
      @PaulTheVawl 2 роки тому

      @@mikem820
      That’s not Christ. That is depraved perverts hiding behind religion and using its power to gain self lust.

  • @troygoggans5495
    @troygoggans5495 2 роки тому +1

    Hold on no one knows who wrote the book of Mark for sure it was not written by a Mark or a whole slew of Marks. So why should I believe someone we have not a clue who that person or persons were? Oh yes the life after death promise of course, which is generated by the human arrogance and need to believe they will never die but will live eternally if they only have faith. The reason for so many sects of christianity is because each group interprets the Bible to jive with there own understanding and prejudices.

    • @raydelavega7457
      @raydelavega7457 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly, None of them are written in the First Person!! And THEIR NAMES ARE BOGUS TOO!!

  • @tadwimmer6225
    @tadwimmer6225 2 роки тому +2

    The claim that there are 40,000 Christian denominations is a bit misleading. The source of this number is the World Christian Encyclopedia (WCE) or the World Christian Database, which counts denominations separately for each country, so it would count Spanish Catholics and French Catholics and Italian Catholics as three different denominations. This leads to a count of more than 200 Catholic denominations. The same is true of each of the main traditions - German Lutherans and Swiss Lutherans are counted separately. The WCE counts about 300 major traditions, so I would put the total number of Christian denominations somewhere between the two numbers to account for differences between different branches of the major traditions.

  • @JimCvit
    @JimCvit 2 роки тому +1

    If the people listened to St Paul when he said if he or an angel or whoever preached a different gospel than the one they were given, no one would've listened to Hus, Luther, Calvin, etc. And pride because they believe they know better than Holy Mother Church.

  • @grantsmythe8625
    @grantsmythe8625 2 роки тому +7

    Division among Christians is to be expected owing to the freedom of each person and group to interpret the Bible in it's own way. Division is not the problem. Our response to division is the problem. Some feel that they are the only ones with the Truth....and that IS a problem.

    • @simonmagus1892
      @simonmagus1892 2 роки тому +5

      and what's the common denominator in all this? religion, the actual problem.

    • @grantsmythe8625
      @grantsmythe8625 2 роки тому +2

      @@simonmagus1892 Look a little deeper.....you'll find people at the root of the problem.

    • @maflones
      @maflones 2 роки тому +2

      Right. Division isn't the problem. That they believe in stupid fairy tales is.

    • @Scalpaxos
      @Scalpaxos 2 роки тому

      "Some feel that they are the only ones with the Truth....and that IS a problem.", is this not the basic premise of any religion? Do you know of any religion admitting the possibility that it wasn't the only truth? Most religions condemn disbelievers, often wage "holy wars" against them and persecute anyone daring to challenge the dogma especially when power falls in the hands of religious institutions which has been a constant throughout history, all theocracies were tyrannical and oppressive and they all failed.

    • @grantsmythe8625
      @grantsmythe8625 2 роки тому +1

      @@Scalpaxos Organized religion, a man-made institution, certainly has no defense. Every religion claims to be the only one to have Ultimate Truth.
      Love of God, however, is a different animal. Love of God need not devolve into "religion".

  • @stevebeary4988
    @stevebeary4988 2 роки тому +4

    Although I’m an atheist, I found this interesting. Thank you.

    • @AtheistVitalist
      @AtheistVitalist 2 роки тому +1

      Well, I'm an atheist too and I DIDN'T LIKE that it was narrated by a devout Christian, instead of someone more neutral and objective.

    • @IamSkullrules
      @IamSkullrules 2 роки тому

      see how make beliefs works the rabbit hole never end, aaarrrggghhh ....

    • @Ladybugluv2
      @Ladybugluv2 2 роки тому

      @@AtheistVitalist thats what i would like too.

    • @eternalstudent7461
      @eternalstudent7461 Рік тому

      ​@@AtheistVitalistIf you haven't heard of Genetically Modified Skeptic, he is a knowledgeable source, a well-educated former Christian who has chosen atheism in his adult life. I'm not sure whether he's done a YT video on this topic yet, but I bet he'd do one if asked. From what I've seen, he always does his homework.

  • @wruff378
    @wruff378 2 роки тому +2

    "This I command you: love one another.”
    - Jesus Christ

  • @USA50_
    @USA50_ Рік тому

    Thanks 🙏👍🕉️☸️✡️✝️🙌💪🦬🦅⭐❤️🇺🇲🌹🕊️

  • @keaco73
    @keaco73 2 роки тому +5

    For the Trinitarians it must be strange to hear that Jesus was praying to himself.

    • @maflones
      @maflones 2 роки тому +1

      Why? Fairy tale figures can do exactly what you want them to do. They exist inside your head.

    • @keaco73
      @keaco73 2 роки тому

      @@maflones yes but to them they believe it’s real.

    • @maflones
      @maflones 2 роки тому +1

      @@keaco73 Yes, and it does what ever they want it to. Must be very nice.

    • @maccheese8379
      @maccheese8379 2 роки тому

      Not so much, for you probably, so are you a Trinitarians?

    • @keaco73
      @keaco73 2 роки тому

      @@maccheese8379 no I left Christianity

  • @TTTzzzz
    @TTTzzzz 2 роки тому

    Because Christians are also people and they live in their own countries and cultures. Sweden and Uruguay are quite different. So are protestants and catholics.

  • @jughound7923
    @jughound7923 2 роки тому

    Is it because Isaac's Oldest Son is the Sasquatch People ? ( Which means Genesis 25:23 States that Jacob is the Father of Modern Humanity )

  • @kornelia8627
    @kornelia8627 2 роки тому

    There were 3 different jewish tribes in Jesús times. Jesús studied with the Essenes and rejected the manner of living and believe of the other two. The other jewish tribes built a wall around them in Israel and are making war since 100 years now. They are not peaceful as we can see now. Back then they were responsable for the crucifiction of Jesús. But hey, both are suffering their Karma still on earth. Our father is justice and love. JHWH was not a God, but an Extraterrestrial humanoid with powers. He is healing in other dimensions. 💜🔱🦋

  • @zalphero618
    @zalphero618 2 роки тому +5

    Not science fact based video

  • @ianmorris8900
    @ianmorris8900 2 роки тому

    You all need to read Colossians 1&2

  • @kalui96
    @kalui96 2 роки тому

    It's the same reason Sonic fans can't get along, why don't you go ask them?

  • @aand7043
    @aand7043 2 роки тому +1

    Chilling like a villain with..

  • @edmckay8001
    @edmckay8001 Рік тому

    Forgeries of the emperors?

  • @shaystern2453
    @shaystern2453 2 роки тому

    because zealotry is divisive

  • @RobBon12
    @RobBon12 2 роки тому +1

    Oh well, if Mark told us..well truth beyond reproach! Cause that's alll it takes. Some 2000 year old writings and lots of opinions=truth!!

  • @zalphero618
    @zalphero618 2 роки тому +5

    Disliked because speaker is biased, one sided point of view. Would of been nice if it wasn't based on faith but based on factual provable evidence. Bible is also not a trustworthy source of information.

  • @paulwright7551
    @paulwright7551 10 місяців тому

    Almost made it through the first episode and couldn't take it anymore. His historical perspective is laughable yet horrible at the same time.

  • @joandark2
    @joandark2 8 місяців тому

    This is selective and outdated research.. Of the many 'denominations' you will find that this only applies to the method of worship.

  • @CalamitousJonathan
    @CalamitousJonathan 10 місяців тому

    Jesus didn't get his start on the shores of Galilee. Jesus was first the Cosmos, or universe. Jesus was the cosmic being. It was lonely for Eons. Then he turned in on himself to view what was inside himself. That is when he began speaking with Nebula and galaxies, then taking a closer look, started speaking with planets and stars. Then a closer look at life forms on planets, and a closer look to atomic life and sub-atomic life. Then exploring all the galaxies and planets and stars speaking with every level of life. Taking on many forms of life. Travelling across the cosmos planet to planet taking on new forms and creating new shapes and figures. Until 2024 years ago landing on Earth by spaceship and walking the Earth for the next 2024 years. After descending from the cosmos, the largest form of life, to the second lowest form of life, just above sub-atomic life, human. Jesus still walks the Earth, just goes by a different name. Jesus existed as a celestial being for a time, but there were few celestial beings in existence. It was lonely even as a celestial being. Jesus didn't start the ministry, David did, the buddhist monks, the Jewish and the muslims did. Jesus just spoke, and taught, and learned, and painted and performed music, and built buildings and furniture and trinkets and gadgets and stuffed animals and wrote and travelled and made food recipes, and drew. All of the bible was writen by David and by James, hense the King David Bible and the King James Bible. The Bibles were spoken by a few people, mostly John, also known as Jesus, given many different names in the bible, such as Genesis, Exodus, Michael, Luke, Jonathan, Matthew. Most of the names in the bible were names given to Jesus. There were a couple of other people, such as Moses, David, and James. Most of the books Jesus wrote himself, were medical textbooks, poetry, story books, botany books, books on newly identified animals with names, discription and pictures, Psychology books and instruction manuels. Jesus was Yahweh, Yeshua, Buddha, Leonardo Divinci, Ludwig von Beethoven, Niccolò Paganini, John the Baptist, wolfgang Amadues Mozart, The Count of Germain, Franz Liszt, Vincent van Gogh, Frédéric Chopin, Johannes Brahms, Johannes Brahms, Robert Schumann, Felix Mendelssohn, Claude Debussy, Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, Richard Wagner, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Carl Orff, Antonio Vivaldi, Edgar Allan Poe, George Frideric Handel, Maurice Ravel, Joseph Haydn, Hector Berlioz, Antonín Leopold Dvořák, Edvard Grieg, Gustav Mahler, Charles-Camille Saint-Saëns, Gabriel Urbain Fauré, Michelangelo Buonarroti, Donato di Niccolò di Betto Bardi, Sandro Botticelli, Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino, Rembrandt Harmenszoon van Rijn, Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio, Artemisia Gentileschi, Orazio Lomi Gentileschi, Agostino Tassi, Claude Lorrain, John Constable RA, Caspar David Friedrich, Nicolas Poussin, Jacques-Louis David, Ferdinand Victor Eugène Delacroix, Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres, Jean-Louis André Théodore Géricault, Edgar Degas, Édouard Manet, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Pablo Ruiz Picasso, Salvador Domingo Felipe Jacinto Dalí i Domènech, Marquess of Dalí of Púbol gcYC, Georges Braque, Franz Gerhard von Kügelgen, Johann Sebastian Bach, Jon Esquire Jones. There are more names Jesus has gone by. Jesus most typically went by the name John, or Jon, but took on many names through his travels.

  • @sammehlberg6664
    @sammehlberg6664 2 роки тому

    Awful lot of assumptions being made for a wondrium video. Interesting yet disappointing.

  • @carminelasco5049
    @carminelasco5049 2 роки тому +1

    denomination = division
    1 Corinthians 1:10 (KJV) >> Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

    • @annhobson1975
      @annhobson1975 2 роки тому +1

      Every time a Baptist doesn't like the message of their pastor, then they will start a new church.

  • @devroombagchus7460
    @devroombagchus7460 2 роки тому +4

    What a lot of day dreaming based on a phantasy. Of course there are so many religions. They are cultural constructs. The US is the land of the free, so everyone is free to invent their version of gods.

    • @goestovbhudi8716
      @goestovbhudi8716 2 роки тому +2

      And, of course, free to say that there are no gods.

  • @donjosegomburza835
    @donjosegomburza835 2 роки тому

    Why? It’s all about money.

  • @andrewfiles4184
    @andrewfiles4184 Рік тому

    People still actually believe this cultist stuff… Mythology based on Mythology based on Mythology…

    • @cosita7479
      @cosita7479 4 місяці тому

      Biggest strawman ever😂

    • @KGroza
      @KGroza 4 місяці тому

      Jesus is the lamb of God who died for all of us. Read the Bible old and new…Jesus fulfilled all 38 of the messianic prophecies…something this “historian” doesn’t point out.

  • @eristic1281
    @eristic1281 Рік тому

    Authors of confusion

  • @oscar1748
    @oscar1748 2 роки тому +2

    Read the Bible, in particular New Testament, the Answer is there.

    • @masonvegas4336
      @masonvegas4336 2 роки тому +7

      If I want answers to important questions the absolute LAST book I would read is the Bible hahahaha

    • @davidarundel6187
      @davidarundel6187 2 роки тому +1

      To many books have been removed from the bible , along with edits of phrases , which have change the intent of the passage .
      The bible , originally , was written as a "map" for us , to be able to reach acension, easier, without the distractions .
      Most people , are not willing to take that leap of Faith , to engage with the higher Spiritual realms .
      The few who do , find their lives changed for the better .

    • @bradleedenney
      @bradleedenney 2 роки тому

      I have never read the Bible. I wouldn't read the new testament if I never read the old testament. The new testament wouldn't make any sense especially if you want someone to believe in its stories. Reading the Book of Mormon without reading the Bible would make no sense to Mormons. You can't tell someone to skip the stories that the other books are referred.

    • @boterlettersukkel
      @boterlettersukkel 2 роки тому

      No it isn't.

  • @carminelasco5049
    @carminelasco5049 2 роки тому

    2 Timothy 4:3-4 (KJV)
    1 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    2 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

  • @carminelasco5049
    @carminelasco5049 2 роки тому

    1 Timothy 4:1-2 (KJV)
    1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
    2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

  • @shaystern2453
    @shaystern2453 2 роки тому

    pushing faith.☹unsubbed.

  • @oldskeptic1513
    @oldskeptic1513 2 роки тому

    ... have no respect for a 'god' who could not defeat 3 nails...

    • @eternalstudent7461
      @eternalstudent7461 Рік тому

      He could. He didn't. It's explained clearly in scripture. Better to read first.

    • @oldskeptic1513
      @oldskeptic1513 Рік тому

      @@eternalstudent7461 ... yeah, he died for your sins, right? ... end it seems I have to explain irony and sarcasm to you...

    • @eternalstudent7461
      @eternalstudent7461 Рік тому

      @@oldskeptic1513 No, just your reply, please. (I'm not being ironic or sarcastic here.)

    • @oldskeptic1513
      @oldskeptic1513 Рік тому

      @@eternalstudent7461 ... since you've decided to ignore reality, I will let you be... keep bleating...

  • @jamesmuncy2968
    @jamesmuncy2968 2 роки тому +1

    Because they have different opinions on the Great Fairytale

    • @eugenecrawford14
      @eugenecrawford14 2 роки тому

      Muncy PA is my home town
      5 different Christian churches
      3000 people

  • @kiberenigestsebez6633
    @kiberenigestsebez6633 Рік тому

    you said : culture, politics divided Christians,; then you said to heal this divide we ought to go to the very teaching of jesus. i think you missed the target or intentionally you ignored the root cause of the differences.
    ......first of all it is not politics or culture that divided us. it is bible versions , for example , orthodox Christian got 81 books bible. yours is 66 books ., Catholics got 72 books.
    ...... therefore, different version means different perspective . To suppress the different perspective , one tactic employed by the west is a negative campaign to bible's which are not diminished to the 66 books.
    ,,,,,,,second, over the
    years the west published so many kinds of 66 books bible. These publications are under different titles i.e. new standard, the geodeon international, the revised version bible, kj bible, American standard bible, copland bible, etc , even some of the bible said this is a correct version from the previous one.
    The existence of All these versions means , you correct bible to fit with your preaching and to fit with your changing social values. So unless one is a fool there is no one to belive this or that is a genuine or orginal bible. Hence , already you loose common ground.
    ----you guys teach jesus is all knowing. Yet. In a bible there is a verse when jesus asked about that day of jdgment , he replied neither angels nor i know about it. ...keep that answer in mind.
    I hear Pentecostal, evangelical and you saying : we ought to follow what jesus thought. If that is the case , would you say jesus dont know everything?
    .......Remember ,He had said no angel nor I know the judgment day. So would you say jesus is not all knowing...... i dont think you will say that .
    ......so here you are ignoring his teaching.
    .......my conclusion to your point of view is that no common ground for Christianity.