The Brief and Tragic Life of Frances Elsie Shea
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Please join me in this video, The Brief and Tragic Life of Frances Elsie Shea.
Frances Shea was young, attractive, and had everything to live for, but her life is remembered as one of the saddest tales of the 1960s.
When I recently visited the final resting place of the Kray family at Chingford Cemetery I had initially intended to cover the family story including Frances - but on reflection, the story of Frances was so far removed from the rest of the Kray family - Frances was a Kray by marriage and a Shea by birth - and it is believed that in her final note to her family, it was her birth name that she requested to be on her headstone.
However, that was not to be - the story of Frances is a real-life modern Gothic tale and I invite you to join me at Chingford Cemetery to take flowers and remember the life of this beautiful young woman who was by all accounts, bright and intelligent and who began with such a promising start but whose life was to end in such tragic circumstances
It’s a complex story that can’t entirely be told in a short video such as this - this is a bite-sized introduction to Frances Elsie Shea - if you would be interested in learning more about her life I can recommend this book:
Frances Kray - The Tragic Bride
The True Story of Reggie Kray’s First Wife
By Jacky Hyams
Published by John Blake Publishing Limited (2015)
If you would like to watch my original visit to Chingford which covers the Kray family life then it's available here:
• The Kray Twins' Family...
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Her life must have been absolute hell if she was determined to end it rather than carry on. We'll never know what tormented her enough for that sad end especially so young and pretty.
I agree xx It’s so sad - she was truly beautiful ❤️🌹
Young and pretty doesn't discriminate against mental illness nor does wealth. If Frances mother wanted something unfortunately, her husband had the last word. They weren't divorced yet. That's why marriage is serious. The spouses are one and has all the say. Just like Frances husband had all say where she was concerned. She was still a kray so even if the family weren't happy, that was her legal name.
She was a sensitive soul
I preferred the original Krays film in the 1990s, it was much better acting, good film. To end her life like that was the only way out for her that's why she over dosed. She must've felt claustrophobic and unable to breath with all the pressure. Mental illness wasn't accepted in those days, anyone with a mental illness was classed as cuckoo, plus back then they wasn't the help back then like there is today because mental illness was brushed under the carpet. To have a mental illness and to be controlled like that on top must've been horrifying for her. They'll be alot went off behind closed doors that the media never got to know about. Francis was such a beautiful young girl with everything to live for. She looked very much like actress Natalie Wood.
She was raped .
It's a disgrace/shame that she is now surrounded by the family that drive her to take her life at such a young age. She should be laid to rest with her own family
It’s very sad 😢 I agree xxxx
@Beautiful Bad and Bizarre Love your channel BTW, just come upon it tonight, will be making my way through your very interesting videos xx
@@CaroleDavies2708thank you so much ❤❤❤
Yeah, I couldn't believe that. Even dead, the Krays won't leave her alone.
So even at after she died she still couldn't get away from them poor girl ❤
Even in death, that monster wouldn't leave the poor girl alone. That is the real tragedy. So incredibly sad. I just hope her soul found peace, wherever it may be.
I hope so too - such a sad story 😢❤️
I am from the East End, born in '62, my dad was born in Stepney and knew so much about the Krays, so I absolutely loved listening to Francis Shay's story so beautifully told. ❤
Sleep peacefully dear Francis, you deserved so much better darling. ❤❤❤
My father-in-law boxed in the same gym as the Krays (he is 92 this year) - he didn't know them personally though - but the stories are fascinating and I always enjoy listening to them! Thank you so much for your lovely comment and for watching the video - it's very appreciated! xx
My baby is buried here.She was stillborn 32 years ago💔.We often drive by the krays graves.Frances was so pretty.
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I am sorry for your loss, as it has had to be very painful for you.
@@twistoffate4791 Thank you so much.Thats so kind 🙏
@@scratchy1704 You are so very welcome. Big bear hug to you. Hang in there, my friend.
Sending you love ❤❤❤ xxx and I agree Frances was pretty - she had the most stunning eyes ❤❤❤
Poor girl had no idea what she was getting into, so young and vulnerable 😢RIP Frances ❤
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Always felt sorry for Francis. Its lovely how you told her story. Did not realise she died that young.
Me too. I had no idea she was 23 when she died. So very sad.
Rest in peace darling Frances, I’m so sorry that your life ended this way. I hope you are at peace sweet girl ❤❤❤❤
Thanks for giving Frances her own individual recognition, lovely video.
My pleasure! It seemed the right thing to do x thank you so much for watching ❤️❤️❤️
Rumours were that Reg didn’t even consummate the marriage.
I’m guessing Francis didn’t want to be surrounded by the Kray family, even in death. It’s tragic she couldn’t be resting now with her own family.
Francis really deserves her own movie. The book was lovely and speaks for her at last.
Yes! I’d read that - I think putting Gary in with Frances was a way of making sure she would never be moved too.
I also agree she should be resting with her own family ❤️ and that it would be amazing to see a movie about her - I thought the book was so interesting and enlightening!
Thank you so much for your comment! It’s very appreciated ❤️
They never once had sex.
@@jojobooboo I’ve heard that but, then again … who would know that? Unless they were with them 24/7.
@@jojobooboo actually I was wrong … "It was the coroner’s final report that stated that Frances had died a virgin, it is not sensationalism." (from "Kray Brothers: The Image Shattered" by Craig Cabell)
I was a bit shocked to find out that Kate Hardie in the Kemp brothers Kray movie was Bill Oddie's daughter. Frances was just a victim fished out of the dating pool in London but it was almost too late before she realised what a terrible mistake she made. Dead at 23, just horrendous.
Well you live and learn!!! I had no idea - I’m actually really surprised - thank you so much for that information!!!! That’s brilliant! I agree it was such a tragic situation - thank you so much for your comment - It’s very much appreciated - and thank you for watching ❤❤❤
Yes a fantastic actress Kate is too wish we could see more of her now
@@kathleengordon5623 she was decent in movie Croupier which I really loved, same director who did Get Carter I think (the good one with Michael Caine in it).
and 'Mona Lisa'.
What a lovely video..very beautiful told x rip Frances
A thoughtful, very well presented, and kindly tribute to Fran Shea. A tragic life made all the worse by the incessant attention from Reg Kray. May she rest in paradise.
Thank you so very much ❤️🌹
What monster
I worked with Frances at Fox Photos in Farringdon Roadshe was one of the nicest charming people l ever knew. The film's failed to portray her for the lovely person she was. So sad.
That's so interesting! Thank you so much - It's a shame the film didn't capture her true personality! xxxx
She looked like the kind of girl you would be lucky to have as a friend, so nice and genuine. I saw the film with the Kemps in and an earlier version of it years ago, she came across as a quiet, shy young lass who did'nt like to be centre of attention and preferred to stay in the background, am I right? The Lord is protecting her now, hopefully she has found her inner peace in Heaven and reunited with family? Poor Kid, no age 23 is'nt to die, her life should have been just beginning and they stole it from her?
@@kimgrattage6049 totaly agree, she was so sweet and will always be in my thoughts
Great video, beautiful Frances should never be forgotten. To suffer from depression and be married to a Kray , that was never going to end well .Thank you B,B,B .
Thank you so much - I really appreciate you watching and your lovely comment ❤️ I completely agree Frances should always be remembered and yes - it was never going to end well - I think her mum Elsie realised it early on xx
Thank you for how delicately you handled this young lady's tragedy, very well done.
Thank you so much ❤ and thank you for watching x it’s very much appreciated ❤
A horrific story, excellently narrated.
Thank you so much for watching! ❤
Her note should have stood as her last wishes, which should supersede any of his rights. Heartbreaking 💔
I agree x thank you for watching x
Her mother tried but frances was so inlove she thought she could go through anything and everthing. But she was wrong. So tragic.
She did! It was such a sad situation xxxx
I've watched three films on the Krays and Francis. ' The Krays " " Legend " and parts one and two of " The Rise of the Krays " and " The Fall of the Krays ".
In my opinion the best portrayal of Francis is seen in the " Legend " film. The film also portrays the Krays best also. Its all before my time but the articles I've read about all involved are best seen in the " Legend " and your research and time and effort compliments Francis and what she's been through and even in the photos can see she's not happy. I didn't know she was surrounded by women in the Krays circle all time instead of her husband .They even brought her on holidays again without her husband. In those days no wonder she took herself out of this bad sad situation. Whatever she did to try make a life for herself her husband blocked. I hope she found the peace and happiness she craved and deserved. Thank you for bringing this video to us ❤
Thank you so much for your lovely comment and for watching the video - it’s much appreciated! I don’t think I’ve seen the rise and fall of the Krays - I will look out for it!
Thank you again for all your kind words - you’ve made my day! ❤️❤️❤️
Should have listened to her mum they know best. She could read the krays and could see the outcome. God bless you as you were torn between love and family ❤
I do agree! Xx
Frances was very nearly out of his grip, with the pending annulment, but likely couldn't take the purposeful and continual delays a minute longer. The frustration must've felt like agony to this young girl. She went for the bad boy, which was a shame. There are too many sad stories in life that never got the chance to flip to happier ones. This video about Frances has proven to be the missing piece to past footage I have watched about the Krays.
Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful comment - I have read so much about the Krays over the years - I’ve always been interested in them - less so about their crimes and more about how they became cemented in celebrity culture - to the point of mixing with the aristocracy - fascinating! So when I read Jacky Hyams book - I found it absolutely riveting and have re-read it several times! I think Frances pre existing mental health issues were pushed to the limit during her relationship with Reggie - it’s incredibly sad xx
She didn't stand a chance really did she. Poor girl. Thank you for sharing this x
Sadly I think you’re you’re right x thank you so much for watching the video xx
Obsession isn't love.I believe Francis realized this to late.
I actually just saw this movie on Showtime,Tom Hardy did an amazing Job portraying both brothers. Considering the Depression she suffered and Lord knows what medication they put her on,having someone like Reggie in her life?
She never had a chance.
May she always rest in the arms of the Angels🌹
Thank you so much for your lively comment and for watching ❤❤❤
A “tragic bride” was a very apt title. A sad end to a short life. As always thank you for your research and hard work.
It absolutely was - such an incredibly sad story ❤ thank you for watching and for all your support Mark! ❤
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre the pleasure is in watching and learning. I’m always very grateful for those UA-camrs such as yourself who take the time and trouble to produce content. You’re one of just two for whom I’ve pressed the notification bell. Thank you. I hope you have an enjoyable weekend.
Her mother was so against the wedding she wore all black . Sadly she would wear it again for her daughters funeral. It’s said the marriage was never consummated and that Reggie was like Ronnie Gay allegedly
Perhaps the poor girl realised and that added to her distress.
I would say that both the actresses that played her did a really good job, the screenplay was not very accurate in regards to Frances Shea in either movie, she was mostly portrayed as a very fragile nervous girl, but if she turned him down when he first ask her to marry him and then eventually left him I think that she was a lot braver than people think.
You do make a good point - an in that respect I’d say Emily Browning showed the brave side and Kate Hardie the more fragile side ❤️ probably if you could blend the two you’d get closer to the real Frances xx
Yeah she most definitely was not a wilting flower, she would fight her corner.
Poor girl. She made a tragic mistake and chose to end her life rather than live in hell. Stunningly beautiful young woman.
So sad xxx thank you for watching ❤️
I remember watching The Krays in the 90s as a teen and being terribly touched by Frances story, she was a delicate and tragic figure I felt. Random fact Kate Hardie is Bill Oddies daughter.
Oh wow!!! I didn’t know that - thank you for watching and thank you for the info! Xx
Frances story was so sad and the enlightenment of how some people pay such a high price for loving wrong or bad people, hoping they might change. She was beautiful, intelligent and happy, until she's got involved with Krays. If she has never met Krays, she would probably have a happy and long life instead of her life been cut short.....R.I.P angel..
Sadly Frances had tried to end her life twice before she met Reg . The family had a history of mental illness. Either way I don’t think her time on this planet would of been long
She did have some serious issues I agree - I think some of the treatments she had were pretty unpleasant - although I wonder as someone else said in a previous post - if Ron had stayed in prison and it had been just her and Reg - who was very much interested in being a businessman (even if he’d been somewhat dodgy) would that have made a difference to Frances? ❤️
I knew nothing of the existence of this young woman until I saw this video. Very interesting. Thank you for coming across as respectful.
Thank you so much for your lovely comment and for watching ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for your most interesting documentary.
I knew about the Krays and their criminal world however I was unaware of Francis.
The gravestone is just stunning, beautifully carved.
Unfortunately it comes with a high price of a tragic ending.
RIP Francis.
Australia
You’re very welcome! Thank you so much for your lovely comment and for watching ❤️🌹 the story of Frances is so sad - and yes I agree - a very high price to pay ❤️
Wonderful video Shar, many thanks yet again.
Thank you so much Shaun! I hope all is good with you ❤️❤️❤️ thank you for watching ❤️
I do hope she found peace and the headstone is stunning. My heart ❤️ went out to her and the family x
Thank you so much for your lovely comment ❤️❤️❤️
Ive read that book the tragic bride,thought it was well researched. Reggie who by the way was bisexual like his brother,became obsessed with Frances. She was young innocent pure,and pliable. It was different when he took her holidays,and they had separate rooms,but marrying him was a different matter. She then realised how obsessive and controlling he could be. He took a flat underneath his brother who hated her,and left her there at night to go drinking upstairs at his brothers parties and orgies. Their honeymoon was a disaster,he still left her in the hotel room to go out drinking at night,when drunk he was verbally abusive towards her. She definitely wanted out,but Reggie Krays was very manipulative and controlling,and he didnt want everyone to know the marriage had failed,she felt trapped her depression got worse,she had spent 3 months in Hackney hospital in 1966. Where she became friendly with another patient there. Who said she was nice,always immaculately dressed. She told him she wanted a divorce,they went out on dates together as friends. She also received ECT treatment there. The drugs she got didnt do her nerves any good. She was being pursued by an obsessive man,and she felt the only way out was suicide. She left a diary of the torment she went through,basically she is another victim of the krays,and the way he controlled every aspect of her funeral,disregarding her parents. Who only tried to protect her showed you how controlling he could be,when they split up he began dating another pretty girl christine coombe,she was a stronger type,and definitely got away from the krays. She wrote to reggie in prison,but has never written a book about them. She has stayed out of the spotlight.
Thank you so much for your comment! That’s so interesting about Christine thank you for that! I found the book so incredibly interesting - I have pretty much every book written by or about the Krays and Tragic Bride by Jacky Hyams she’s a lot of new light for me on the subject ❤❤❤
SO SAD. Even after she died. They wouldn’t let her go 😰
I remember Father Hetherington well from my childhood. He was a lovely, kind, man and I like to think that he didn’t want Francis to marry into the Kray family for her own good.
Thank you so much for your comment!
Thank you so much for covering this story! It was so lovely to watch! 🥲❤️
Thank you Julia for your lovely comment and for watching - it very much appreciated! Xx
So very tragic. Thank you for this touching video. RIP Frances✝️
Thank you so much for watching xx
thank you for the video and the story.
Wow what a tragic story, Relly well narrated and produced. thank you!
My pleasure! Thank you so much for watching xx
Frances should have had her last wishes granted and her name changed back to Shea, she must have been in a terrible mental and emotional state and felt so alone. I feel for her mother too for losing her daughter at such a young age ...
I do completely agree with you x
I wish there was somebody alive today that could see her body reburied with her mother, father and brother. So sad.
@@violetmartha916 yes certainly, I feel the same. How could such a lovely person get involved with a low life criminal !
A very nice summation of a tragic life.
I like this channel as it is well researched , nicely presented , very English and above all kind.
Thank you so much for your lovely comment - I appreciate you watching ❤️❤️❤️
Kate Hardies portrail of Frances in The Kraus film was brilliant. I really like that film. Next year my husband and I are going on a coach trip to take in some of the Kraus old haunts ending with a visit to their graves so I found this extremely interesting. Thank you 😁
Thank you so much for your lovely comment and for watching! It’s very appreciated xx
Who are the Kraus family, Frances married a Kray brother?
Beautifully presented, great respect put forward by yourself, such a sad loss to a young woman caught up in a shocking if not fascinating part of history, such a problem her parents didn't get their wish excellent,
Thank you so much for your kind and lovely comment - it’s much appreciated and thank you for watching ❤❤❤
Thank you so much for uploading.
Very sad story. It may seem glamorous to a young girl initially to have a tough protective gangster as a boyfriend but the magic soon disappears. Her mind was undoubtedly troubled but being married to Reggie Kray couldn't have helped.
He probably sort of loved her but it didn't seem to be in the way a normal man with a healthy attitude towards women loves.
That beautiful girl was all too often left shut up alone while he went out. That's no life. The loneliness must have been awful for her.
Hi Helen - that’s my thoughts too - such a sad story 😢 I can understand how and why Frances fell for Reggie and although she would have soon realised it was a rather unusual situation at that initial point I don’t think she could have predicted how far it would go and how dangerous it would get - she was so young ❤❤❤ Thank you so much for your comment and for watching xxxx
Very sad she had to take her life.Thank you for the video.
Terribly sad I agree ❤️ thank you so much for watching xx
What a tragic story this is . Very interesting. Thank you once again.
It is 😢 Thank you so much for your comment and for watching ❤️❤️❤️
Your voice is enchanting I could listen to you read the phone book and be hooked❤️ Another great video .
🤭☺️ thank you so much - that’s made my day! ❤ and thank you for watching! ❤
Thank you for remembering Frances she was so young when she died very sad, I only saw one of the films the older one it was very good. You are so good at telling the stories!. 💜
Thank you so very much! Your comment is immensely appreciated ❤️❤️❤️ thank you for watching 🌹
Everyone knew what the Krays were like,cruel bastards,they never hid it, Always puzzles me why any girl would want them as a boyfriend never mind a husband, no one told me to be warey of bad boys ,I just was, their cruelty never appealed to me. I married a very quiet fellow, loved his mum got on with everyone, best husband in the World, why would anyone choose a bad boy surely events 14 anyone would have that much sense. My dad was a very quiet good humoured man, so perhaps had him as a role model
Another great video. Such a tragic story, sadly Fran died so young.
Such a beautiful Headstone.
I don't know what else to say so sad.
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Thank you so much for your lovely comment - it’s a tragically sad story I agree ❤ thank you for watching ❤❤❤
This was really an extraordinary episode i cried i didn't know the acctress very well but all i know is that she was a really good actress and was loved by all xx
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I'm glad her family had her buried under her own familial name, poor Frances deserved better 💐
Poor Frances, she must have felt so.out of her depth among the Krays and some of their associates. RIP x
I agree - she was so young and I can only imagine she felt trapped and overwhelmed by it all at the end xx
Thank you for all your hard work into our histories. X
Thank you so much! And thank you for watching ❤️❤️❤️
God bless her , may she rest in eternal peace ❤ and how lovely of you to put flowers on her grave , I really must do that one day too x
Thank you so much for watching ❤️❤️❤️
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I have read the book Frances Kray - The Tragic Bride can highly recommend.. I can remember reading an article from Frances Niece view of the situation she said that Frances had tried numourous times of taking her own life previously before having met Reggie Kray & that in today's society her state of mind would have been possibly diagnosed as Bipolar if this is the case & meeting Reggie being involved in his world, his controlling manner I think would have been a bad combination her fragile state mentally & physically not knowing who to turn to for help as it would have been taboo to talk about back in those days you were just expected to get on with things from the outside to others she probably looked like the girl who had everything when the reality was she was silently screaming inside in anguish
The poor girl never stood a chance but to take the only route that she did as a way out may her beautiful soul be at peace x
Thank you so much for this interesting and thoughtful comment! I absolutely agree with you - especially on the book - it’s such a good read! Yes I think Frances was very vulnerable even before meeting Reggie - after meeting him it was just altogether the perfect storm - so many if onlys and what ifs! ❤️
Her niece was only 4 when she died,and can barely remember her. She would never have known the torment she went through. She also thinks highly of the krays. So doesnt want to think bad about them. Frances tried to kill herself when she was 13,then met Reggie when she was 15. Very young and impressionable
I guess that Frances would have been spoken about a lot in the family and her niece would have grown up with their knowledge as it were - I agree with you Frances must have been in total despair - such a said situation - thank you so much for your comment and for watching ❤️❤️❤️
well done Shar, beautifully put together,to be honest i didn't know about her ,thanks for posting this xx
My pleasure! You’re very welcome - thank you so much for watching - it’s always appreciated ❤️❤️❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre looking forward to the next one xx Dean
fantastic video! Thank you
Thank you so much and thank you for watching ❤️❤️❤️
Iv seem both films and enjoyed both . I only found your channel today and im so glad i did. Thanks
Me too! I think Legend is my favourite though! Thank you so much for your lovely comment and for watching ❤️
Hi Shar,
Thank you so much for this wonderful video. I love how you put so much time and effort into researching, writing, editing, filming, and presenting your work. I always look forward to watching your video; they are always superb.
Regarding the Kray films and the portrayal of Fran Shea, I think the Tom Hardy version was more authentic than the 1990 version.
Thanks again for all the effort you put in. You are a wonderful filmmaker, and also a very beautiful person, in all respects.
You’ve absolutely made my day! Thank you so much for your lovely comment! I It makes it all worthwhile! I really can’t thank you enough!
I do love the Tom Hardy version - it’s always a ‘go to’ film for my friend and I when we get together! Partly because we both live the glamour of the clothes and the decor! There is a lot of attention to detail in the film.
Thank you again!!!! ❤️🌹
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre You are very welcome, beautiful lady. I've read all the books that have been written about the Krays, and I was very disappointed in the 1990s film version. I found it to be rather on the corny side, and I wasn't impressed by the acting either. I totally agree with you; there is far more attention to detail in the Hardy film.
Yes, weren't the clothes wonderful in those days? Being a fella who doesn't work in an office, I wish I could have an excuse to wear flash suits and ties every day of the week. A suit can make even 'non-Hardy' types look a little bit easier on the eye.
Please keep making your wonderful videos, Shar. You're doing a fabulous job by entertaining, educating, and informing. 😘🌹🌹🌹
Apart from the part where Reg apparently raped her.
A fantastic video and a eye opener
It's so sad and a shame she had to be buried with the kray family
She must have had a hell of a life
Rest in peace frances
Thank you so much for your comment and for watching - it’s very much appreciated ❤️❤️❤️
Very nice presentation.
Thank you. Very informative video xx
Thank you so much for watching ❤️❤️❤️
thank you as always a historical story beautifully told, she had such a short life, aww as the old saying goes, what tangled webs we weave.
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I'm so glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching and for your lovely comment xxxx
Thank you for your unbiased, educational and thoughtful video.
Frances was a very troubled young lady and I feel she was pushed over the edge by both Reggie and Ronnie, and its no secret that Ronnie despised her and felt she was becoming between the brothers.
RIP my beauty.
Dave SHEA
Hi Dave - thank you so much for your kind comment - I think like many people I have always found the story of Frances so incredibly sad - she was so young with so many possibilities ahead of her - and I’m sure for her family there were a million ‘if only’ moments - I’m assuming by your surname that you may be related to Frances - I can only imagine how devastating and painful it was for her parents, brother and family ❤️
Here from TikTok. Couldn’t find more about her until I found this video. What a beautiful way to share her story, thank you
Thank you so much for your comment and for watching the video! ❤️❤️❤️
You have such a pleasant voice! I accidentally stumbled upon your channel, but I will stick around for a bit. I love how you tell these stories!
Thank you so much! You have made my day ❤️❤️❤️
Hello shar once again you haven't disappointed a very sad ending for Frances unfortunately I don't think Reggie kray would have allowed her to leave him. This poor girl must have been terrified to think that's the only way out.
Thank you so much! I do agree with you Cliff - I think he had no intention of letting her go - and quite possibly Frances realised that - I do think Reggie was totally obsessed with Frances and it was important for Reggie to have control. ❤️
Thank you for this...I love history specially ones I never knew..pleased you put flowers on🌹⚘🌷💕
You’re so welcome! I’m exactly the same - history has always interested me ❤ thanks Steve ❤❤❤🌹
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre 😎🌹💕
so sad. Thank you for this video, I had never heard of this story. I bet she would have still been with us if that gangster had not bullied her into staying in his life. It seems she felt she had no choice but give up. Very heartbreaking.
Thank you so much for your comment and for watching ❤
Outstanding information very professional. Brought a tear to my eye thank you....
Thank you so very much Tim ❤️ and thank you for watching xx
Another superb mini biography, in your brilliant series!
Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate you watching ❤❤❤
Another excellent video, Thank You.
I've only seen the Kemp brothers film. I think I'll watch the Tom Hardy one this evening.
Poor Frances. She must've lived on her nerves 💔
Rest in peace ❤️
Oh my GOODNESS!!! You must watch Legend and let me know what you think! I loved the Kemp brothers version but Legend was amazing - my friend and I have watched it a squillion times and can feed each other the lines while watching 🤭 it’s two very different portrayals of Frances! ❤️
I'm just coming to the end of Legend....omg! This wins, hands down! And Emily looks so much like Frances. Incredible film.
🤭🤭 I had a feeling you’d love it!!! It is shockingly good - the costumes are superb and Emily is as you say - very much like Frances to look at! ❤️
This is tragic.
Thank you for your wonderful information,
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Thank you, what a lovely tribute. Frances would have been about the same age as myself if she had lived. Such a waste. I remember the days of the Krays, they ruled London.
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Thank you,.BB and B
Very well produced
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I very much enjoy your style of presentation, also your subject matters are very appealing. Nice work, thank you 🙏
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so glad i found your videos im addicted there amazing thanks so much
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A curious and sad tale.
An interesting video,thankyou.
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Wow! Really enjoyed this video, sad story but fascinating thanks for putting it together🙏
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Thanks for this ,most informative
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Hi Shar, well, another beautifully done video and a sad one too about this tragic young woman. I remember the Tom Hardy clip as Reggie when he meets Francis, and they share a sweetie, some powerful acting going on there. x
Thank you so much! I have to say Legend is a favourite mordern film of mine! I know there is much creative licence in there - but I can just re-watch that film any time, it's so good! I agree it was a tragic end for Frances x thank you for watching! xx
Thank you very much for this interesting vidéo ❤
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This was brilliant, thank you. I absolutely love the film “Legend “ with Tom Hardy and definitely Emily Browning as Francis x
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for watching - Tom Hardy is awesome in Legend! ❤
Lovely and very interesting presentation about Frances. Thank you ...
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So sad, she was just a child but could see the insurmountable horrors ahead of her, with her marriage and long seated battle with her demons. Thanks for this impeccably researched and beautifully presented gem 🙏🏻 I will continue this journey through your captivating, albeit moving documentaries with an emphasis on the Crays now tonight. I am also very interested to discover Barbara Windsor’s role in this fascinating era, the low-down. As always, we lay the flowers together 💐X
As a new subscriber Im really enjoying your channel. I have seen both movies and personally think the first one was a better portray of Frances. I actually share the same birthday with here. How sad and heartbreaking for her to be so distraught she took her own life… then she has them all around her in the graveyard. Sad.
Thank you though for a fantastic presentation.
Thank you so much for your lovely comment and for subscribing - it's very appreciated! i completely agree with you, such a sad situation xx I have to say my heart breaks for what her mother went through, and she worked so hard to try and have Frances moved and re-buried x
Such a sad and tragic life, which you covered in a very sensitive manner. Now we need something much lighter for the next one! Well, I do!
🤭 thank you soooo much - Im working on the next one almost as I type 🤭 it’s as different as it’s possible to get - Im madly excited about this person! I hope you will be too - a real blast from the past! ❤️❤️❤️
Another very interesting upload.
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I enjoyed the video completely. I don't know much about the Krays, but you filled in all the gaps plus portraying the life of Francis ( l hope l have spelt her name properly). I feel so drawn to the glamorous life of the top people in the fifties. I think Francis was too young to take her life , perhaps she was suffering too much. I love the flowers you placed carefully at her grave. Thank you so very much. This has been a fantastic video full of facts. Best wishes .
Thank you so very much! Female version of Frances is with an ‘e’ I get confused sometimes too! I also feel the same about the Fifties! It’s why I love doing these videos - I get so absorbed in the era - it’s like time travel - I really enjoy it! Thank you for your kind comment and for watching - very much appreciated! ❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Forgive me for replying but l cant resist. I would give anything to have lived in that era. Red lipstick, compacts and meals in beautiful restaurants with table cloths and silverware. Thank you for your kindness regarding my spelling. Frances is a lovely name. I have so many recordings of fifties films...even the trains had steam coming from them. Thank you with all my heart. I love your channel. It's my favourite.....🥀💗
@@T5-635good morning!!! Your replies are most welcome - kind interesting and thoughtful replies are always a pleasure to receive! ❤ I’ve always loved the past - history was my favourite subject at school and the more recent past ie the 40s, 50s & 60s fascinates me - from the politics and social culture to the clothes, hairstyles, makeup and music! I love vintage events such as Goodwood Revival - all those amazing cars! As for spellings - I often have to double check - you can’t know everything xxxx also I can’t remember the last time I watched a modern film - it could have been Legend 🤭 so when I do watch them they’re normally about the past! 😂❤❤❤
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Much respect to you. You are a lovely lady. I kept thinking about the way they used to close their handbags in the fifties films. I love the film A Taste of Honey. I have been in an old Bentley car. The dashboard was beautiful wood and the seats real leather. I love Hattie Jaques. I do wish there was such a thing as a time machine. Wishing you the very best. Honoustly l am glad l found your channel. Class with real life. Thank you so so much. 🥀🥀💗
Great video. RIP Frances
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Very well done !
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Kate Hardies performance was exceptional, and unsurpassable!!!!!!!
She certainly showed the vulnerable and fragile side of Frances - it’s been a long time since I’ve watched the 1990 version - I think I might re watch soon!
So tragic poor Fran she was so beautiful and trapped in a loveless marriage. R.I.P Fran God bless you. I hope you are now happy with your family. You will never be forgotten and always loved 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖🇬🇧🌹❤️
Thank you so much for your beautiful comment ❤️❤️❤️ and thank you for watching xxxx
R.I.P. Frances
Thank you 🙏 for sharing this story
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the Kemp brothers, the girl in same film that played his wife. you have done a very beautiful job as usual.xx
Thank you so much for your lovely comment - I particularly love Martin Kemp! ❤️
Just stumbled upon your channel and have subbed 👏really good content
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As usual very well put together shar. this one is close to my heart, like i said before for some reason this this really drew me in like a magnet and i read everything i could about Francis and her background, i often pop down to chingford to see a friend of mine and always put some roses on her grave, its really heartbreaking she was such a beauty, her eyes hypnotised you, i can see why reg fell deeply in love with her, but you cant throw somebody from her background into his world it doesn't work, she was never gangsters moll material, but to be fair reg did pay for a lot of expensive treatment for her in private clinics, maybe if they been left alone to get on with there lives it would never have happened, who knows, but i dont think Ron would have allowed that, i just wondered if she had not committed suicide and reg and Ron would have been sent down for life a year later whether she would have done it. ?!! Regards exhuming her remains that was never going to happen because Reg would have opened up a can of worms on people in very high places. One of them being Lord boothby. she was like a caged bird there was no way she could have met anybody else Reg would have made sure they were fish food, So sad, what an awful place she must of been in. Lets hope she is in a better place with her family around her again. X
Hi James ❤️ thank you so much for your lovely comment - I completely understand how you feel about Frances - her eyes do draw you in - they are stunningly and perfectly beautiful ❤️ she seemingly had so much going for her but sadly meeting Reggie was not helpful - even though as you say he tried and he paid for treatment etc - and I agree - had he been a regular ‘businessman’ as the newspapers referred to him at time - things may have been different - but to put a 15/16 year old into that lifestyle I guess it’s sink or swim - the fact that Ron disliked her so much would have been proper scary too!
I’m so pleased that you take flowers - I believe that’s something she asked for - red roses being her favourite 🌹
I also agree that unlike Dolly and Charlie - Reg wouldn’t have tolerated Frances being with anyone else and she was certainly trapped 😢
Thank you for watching xxxx
Hi I know a lot of things about the Krays but I've always wondered about his first wife thank you brilliant I learnt a lot from this one
Thank you so much for watching! I can definitely recommend the book The Tragic Bride for more in-depth detail on Frances ❤️❤️❤️
Such a kind and loving gesture to leave flowers at all the final resting places that you visit of our favourite stars of stage, film and tv. Poor young Frances never stood a chance did she, surrounded by them in life and death, sharing a grave with one relative of the Kray's I'd never heard of. Just hope she went to Heaven away from them all?
Thank you so much for your appreciation for the gesture of leaving flowers at the final resting places - my grandmother was a florist and I grew up being taught that you should take flowers when you visit a grave. Frances Kray's story is indeed poignant, and your sentiment reflects the tragic circumstances she faced. While her life may have been overshadowed by the notoriety of others, one can only hope for peace and solace for her in the afterlife. Thank you for your kind comment and for watching the video - it's very appreciated xxxx
Excellent well done.
Thank you Peter! ❤️🌹
Excellent video ,excellent book .🙏
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Absolutely brilliant.
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