I'm 96 and stuck in a care facility. I used to ride Harleys until I couldn't, 12 years ago. For my birthday my son gave me a "stage 4" Harley wheelchair, with Timken wheel bearings and straight pipes. It has Harley stickers and orange and black fabric. I almost cried. Don't ever give up life.
Hi, thank you so much for your comment. Part of the reason I do these is to preserve my memories. If you have time you might like “Steve’s Tesla” and also “ Steve’s art” which is a work in progress. Cheers
I'm 74. I really like your spirit and determination to keep riding off-road adv style bikes! I had the 1200GS for 2.5 years and liked to ride solo off-road like I have done for many decades. Being self-competitive, I kept increasing my speeds, and increasing the difficulty of the terrain, riding more challenging steep mountain trails that I had never been on before. I made sure to stay in shape by going to the gym 3-4 times a week for strength training to forestall arthritis. But after several get-offs (no major injuries), usually on steep, muddy and gullied mountain trails with no help in sight, just me rotating and lifting that beast up and out of a gully, I decided to sell my 600 lb GS and take a break on big motorcycles. Just yesterday I scratched that old familiar itch and bought a 2023 KTM 890 Adventure. This bike is some 130 lbs lighter and considerably less top heavy to lift up from a fall I have been assured. So this spring I'll be back at it. Keep the spirit!
Interesting read indeed. I am 1 year younger than you and am just off-loading my SuperTenere which has seen the likes of the Gibb River Road etc and moved on to a T700 Yamaha. Whilst I miss the arm chair comforts of the S10 (several Nullarbor crossings, also including one 1700 km day) I am now looking forward to going further off road with some 60 Kg less to fight and shorter runs. Am heading off to do a lap of Tassie (from Perth) within the next 8 months or so, but will be travelling solo which is my preference. Parts of the old Telegraph Track from Norseman to Balladonia and old Eyre Highway to Ceduna are the targets, as well as spending as much time on dirt as is possible. Doin' it for the old guys I reckon, and loving it.
Off-road, if you aren't racing, you never need more than 200. And a lighter bike is infinitely more maneuverable. And you can find carbs everywhere. Because lawnmower shops have sufficient size carbs in their back room.
68, and living full time on the bike with my dog. Lots of offroad and lots of learning in the last 14 months/40,000,, miles. My DR650 fits the bill perfectly. Keep it up youngster. 😂😊😊
@reedsartor This is exactly how I feel. I got a 2017 cb500x ( in early 2018) and due to stupidity in the first 57 years 30 something surgeries later I only have 1500 miles , 1490 on the street. But I have high hopes that 2024 will be better. I just got cleared from the back surgeon that I can start riding again. I want to do at least a little of the BDR in 2024. Hope you get in all the riding you hope to. We may be old and some of us are more broke up than others BUT WE ARE NOT DEAD YET.
@@marshallcollins8634 true to all that my friend. But as of late I'm thinking maybe I need to build myself a little chopper for running around town. 🤔 Happy new year and lots of safe miles to ya. 😎👍🍻
@@reedsartofadventure I have had a (Honda 750 4 / Kz 1000 chopper in my head with a sugarbear springer on an Amen savior frame (70’s style) for 20 years . would love to see pics of yours WHEN it’s done. I’m sure it will be a blast.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Imay also be nudged into doing mine if this dirt thing doesn’t play well with my broke up body. No matter what I still have the 77 Kz 650 and the ZRX 1200 I can polish and many take to shows. Who knows maybe I’ll see you at a chopper show/ meet up. If you’re in the U.S.
i was born in 1945. I re-started my biking after 20 year break. I purchased a 310 GS BMW in 2019m I went to an adventure riding school here in South Jersey. Learned lots of skills. Dropped bike a dozen times, no injuries. I traded up to an 800. BUT I won a 1200 GS (used) what a joy. Now i have a perfect bike with a 'lift' just in case I drop it, ride on...
I'm 61, and started ADV riding just two years ago. I've done 10,000 miles per year, and I have no intention of slowing down. This video has tons of very good information, and it's easy to tell it's coming from someone who has "been there, done that." I hope that I find more from you, I really like your realistic approach to riding, and the fact that you seem to be just above my level. I can really relate to your style and your presentation. Thank you!
Maybe i'm not quite in the "older guys" camp yet at 49, but i recently picked up a motorbike with the same wants, dreams and aspirations as you. My bike is a well equipped DR650 i picked up for rather cheap. Turned out to be an excellent first bike... maybe too excellent as I have no desire for anything else. I have no want for any rider aids like abs, traction control, etc. Anyhow, This past august i did my first multi-day singletrack adventure on the Hatfield McCoy trails in West Virginia. Almost exactly one year to the date of buying my first motorcycle, I managed all 3 days of riding and even conquered some black diamond trails. What a ton of fun it was. In one year i went from "only idiots with a death wish ride motorcycles" to "I wish my bike could hold as much as my truck so i can sell it". I pray in another 14 years i have the power and finesse to do what you are doing. sir, you are an inspiration. Thanks for this video and great tips. One tip i think you way wanna add to your list is always be a gear lower than you think you need. It was repeated to me a lot on the Hatfield trails and it will make a difference on steep climbs and descents. One other small tip is never stop on an uphill. If you are slipping add more gas, hang on tight and let the bike do the climbing. Once stopped on a steep climb and you are in some trouble. Had it happen once or twice and each time it was rather challenging to get the bike stable enough to continue the ride. Also wore myself out trying to get the bike up and workable.
G’day, thanks for the feedback. I’m reading this and imagining cowboy trails and John Denver from the description of the location. I’ve learned a few painfull lessons and stalling on a hill is one of them. Cheers
I just turned 64 last week. I started riding at age 8 on a 100cc dirt bike. I started riding on the street at age 16. I've ridden over one million miles and owned over 50 bikes. Dirt bikes, street bikes, a couple of what I call standards, a couple of Goldwings, but mostly cruisers, from 450cc to 1800cc. I've never owned what most people call an "adventure bike" unless you count a pretty much fully decked out KLR650, complete with aluminum panniers many years ago. I even had to give up small dual sports a couple years ago. Because of serious knee and hip joint problems, I could no longer get my leg over the seat of my Yamaha XT225 without standing on something. I used to take long rides out into the AZ desert on dual sport bikes, but gave that up when I realized I could no longer fix a flat tube type tire by myself out in the middle of nowhere. I would be stranded, with no one to call, and unable to walk out. And my road service plan doesn't work off road. I have no options but to ride alone. I have never known anyone else who rode a motorcycle, either on or off road. I sure wish somebody made a 250cc or similar bike capable of at least dirt road and smooth trail riding with about a 28" seat height and tubeless tires. More of a dirt road bike than an actual dirt bike.
I went ridding about 15 miles into the Arizona desert on a Honda 400 dual sport, it was about 120 degrees that day, I ran over some small barrel cactus and had a flat front tire, but with rim locks you don’t need to fix it, just ride it out and that’s exactly what I did the entire 15 miles, it actually handled really good in those sandy washes. After I got home the tire was still fine, all it needed was a new tube. I like your story thanks for sharing.
63 Years old next month, 20 year old BMW R1150 GSA that I ride and have ridden for past 3 Years and love it, I also have a CRF 250 for my weaker moments which is also good fun and very forgiving, a good video, enjoyed it.
I'm 63 and after years of big bike (BMW 1200GSA) riding I took a step back and analyzed my riding style and needs. I ride primarily alone or with 1 other bike, generally class 3-4 or single track roads with an average off road speed of 30-50 mph. With that said, I sold my GSA and bought a Husky FE 350 enduro (street legal) and am infinitely happier. I can self rescue (the bike weighs 110 kilos) and with a Nomad ADV fairing and Mosko panniers I have the same storage as my GS did. If I plan a long trip a distance from home I put the bike in the back of my Tacoma, drive in comfort and unload and ride. I think with a little caution and keeping in good shape I'll be able to ride off road into my early 70's. Your video is a great "less is more" lesson.
We are not guaranteed the next breath. It is foolish to say what you will be doing a year from now let alone 7 years from now. At any age, anything can happen.
@@MikelLee Necessary life lesson to know where you will spend eternity and that none of us are gods and we don't know when our last breath will be. Warning others is not trolling and or derogatory. I never said anything nasty or derogatory. That is just in your millennial woke cancel culture mind. You don't like what someone says and your feelings get hurt. toughen up buttercup. this is reality. Do you think God will baby you on judgement day and cut you slack for the evil life you have lived? No. We will all give an account for our lives. Either good or bad. It's Biblical. Grow up. get out of your parents basement and get a job.
Hahaha! What a coincidence! I also gave up my BMW R1200RT and bought a small BMW G310GS to start adventure riding. I am also 64 and have been riding since 1980 starting with a Honda CB 360, then upgraded to Honda Silverwing CX500, took a break after we had kids then started riding again 10 years ago. I can't wait to start Adventure Riding. Thanks for this video, I am now more motivated to ride off road.
@@StevesBikes01 I’ve taken mine from England to Spain its fine but not a BMW. If you do decide to get one, cost in a suspension upgrade and try to forget the BMW service levels!
Hi Steve. What a humble and Honest video😎 as you know I am 65 and purchased my F750 GS specifically for my short height and don’t need more power. Great advice also for all us ‘younger riders’ Patrick
@@StevesBikes01Hi Steve, bought my 750 GS for same reason, 5’6’’. 30’’ inseam. I want to go off road but needed a smaller ride. I doubt the guys would let me ride my Honda 125 with them. I am hoping to get more off road skills with some real training courses in the near future.
You, Sir, nailed it !!!! I am 60 years old and bought a 2022 r1250 GSA, my dream bike !!!! ...... got the proper tires ....... listened to folks like you ...... went gravel road riding in Texas (G#d's Country !!!!) and I am ridiculously hooked !!!!!! I had my first "dump". No damage to myself or my "Kaethe"...it was sand !!! My nemesis !!!!! ..... BUT WHAT A RUSH !!!!! I am retired from Boeing after 35 years and I feel like a kid again with common sense, this time. And the folks I meet like you are the best !!! Thank you for your video and thank you for talking about "us" ..... the "silver bearded crowd" ..... And I am hopelessly in love with my "Boxxer" ..... she's a big Girl but she can dance ..... just choose the music "wisely" .... 🙂
G’day, I can’t respond to everyone but i wanted to say thank you to you Kurt for your comments. Good luck out there. If you like my nonsense then try “Steve’s Tesla” too if you’re into EV’s. cheers
Good for you…I am approaching 74 and got back into motorcycling about 9 years again when my wife ( #2 and younger wanted to learn .. I rode back in the 60’s …our agreement was get training … street, track,dirt and adventure all of which we did and continue to do…I agree with you on the smaller bikes not only to start on but to continue on… I now ride a Royal Enfield Himalayan for my off road and adventure rides, a bigger Honda NC 750X for touring and a Kawasaki Z400 for my track days…and a Royal Enfield Continental GT for what I call my coffee shop Sunday ride…the Himalayan is my daily go to bike…So smaller is better in my opinion and continuous practice and training are keys to enjoyment in my opinion…I also believe that maintain a reasonable level of fitness is also very helpful. Finally being realistic with my goals and objectives in whatever riding I am doing …as you pointed out over the 3 years you have progressed significantly and that to me is the important point .. always learning is the key to enjoyment and happiness in my opinion ..no matter how slow I progress I am always progressing more than those that are not been try ( at anything motorcycling or anything lease for that matter).. so good on ya mate…keep on rolling on… ride well..
I, like you, have watched a gazillion moto videos and this is the one that finally made me come to senses to keep my road bike and start with a dirt bike. Thx.
There's no denying that being able to touch the ground with your feet is a major confidence booster. The momentum thing comes with time and practice for sure. As we get older we realize that getting hurt actually hurts and takes longer to recover. I've crashed plenty of times and have been lucky to only receive minor injuries. Having the right gear on helps a lot in preventing serious injuries. Good job and good tips. I started on smaller bikes and worked my way up. Even with many years riding off road I don't feel comfortable riding a big heavy bike off road doing single track jumps etc... And going fast is fun on the street, it's overrated off road. Besides, taking your time to enjoy nature is way more pleasant than ripping through the woods so quickly that you miss everything.
Yeah,taking it easy is way to go.Steve mentioned the "sweet spot"between not too slow or fast but just right. I've done offroad when younger but now the vstrom is me commuter.
This is honestly a great video regardless of your age. I'm 36, so I'm not old but also not young, but my F750GS was still too much bike for my first off-road motorcycle. All of the marketing hype around the bigger bikes made me think it was the best way to start. In hindsight, I would have been better off on a smaller dual sport. I'm picking up a small 300 Honda or 350 KTM soon.
Congratulations to you..I am 72yrs & have been riding 50yrs. I have a Harley road bike, Honda650 dual sport & Zero electric dual sport. Adventure & learning everyday.
thanks for the video. I've been convinced that the best thing to do with my WeeStrom is stay on the pavement, as most owners do. THanks to you for helping me to see the light rather than the surgery. 70 is no time to pretend you aren't old.
I couldn't agree more. We older folks buy bigger more expensive bike because we could afford them but that doesn't mean it's the right bike for us. For me, I prefer smaller bikes for off road riding. It's just easier to maneuver and pick up when drop.
Well done! At 63 I don’t what I want to do when I grow up. Planning a fall trip to Colorado to do the Ducati Challenge, 12 passes above 12,000’. Multistrada 1200 Enduro. Won’t be alone!
I’m 55, been riding motorcycles for over 40 years. Owned many types of bikes. The best adventure bike is undoubtedly the Kawasaki KLR650. Tough as nails, inexpensive, fairly lightweight, countless mods, plenty of power. Can go around the corner for a coffee, or around the country with ease. In my opinion, way better than any BMW.
Great video! You bring up so many of the points that I've been debating in my head. I'm 56 and realize that my off road skills are practically non existent. I've been looking at getting an Adv bike and have come to the conclusion that I will go with a smaller one to start with as my body can't afford to pay the bills that my brain seems to think it can. Keep up the excellent work.
Consider the KTM 350 or 500excf, it has horse power, suspension, very light weight and some accesories for making it go further distances. Watch Taco Moto vids for what they do to improve bikes for older vet riders.
This was an amazing video, really good realistic info and a humble plain spoken narration that we probably don't get enough of on the internet. Great video Steve!
Sage advice et al, I’m 64 and reserve the big bike for the street. I have found my Beta 500 to be a livable compromise, I’m at altitude in the Rocky Mountains and most anything in the 350-650 range is more than adequate, FI is a big plus. The Beta a bit light/lack of stability on the street, easily capable of sustained interstate speeds, but capable of exceeding my ability off-road. And yes when you ride off-road at some point you will go down. This bike weighs 250 lbs/113 kg and on a hill, can be a struggle to upright and reorient. As others have mentioned keeping our strength in check will help us to enjoy this adventure we love.
In my 70's and a GS Adventure rider for decades... there is a time to go smaller. Still, I kept my 1250 GS Adventure, but purchased a 650 VStrom Adventure, a few years ago, and now I am thinking about going smaller again, this time, to a 300cc, lighter, closer to the ground, and something that will allow me to plant my feet and more easily muscle around... better than not Adventure off-road riding at all... that 1250 GS even if not full of gas or gear, is beyond my abilities off road... and I know it. Great UA-cam posting.
Great video! I’m 59 and 3 years ago bought a KLR 650. One summer and I needed more POWER so bought a BMW GS800. So glad I made the change….But about size, I’m 5’7 and 150. Still took that bike through the Rocky Mountains including part of the Colorado BDR! My big breakthrough was when I ditched the “50/50” tires and bought FULL NOBBIES! Helped my confidence a lot knowing I wasn’t going to wash out in turns because of losing traction
Thanks young man! We all need to hear this over a certain vintage. All too easy for the wallet to make us into super hero's! The beauty is, the more you develop the skills the lighter the riding inputs become so things do get easier with practice. See Luke's post below regarding weight transfer into the feet......
The saying for off-road driving, at least here in the US, is “As slow as possible, as fast as necessary.” Great video, thanks for sharing! I started on a KTM 500EXC at 41 and am still learning a lot off road. Just added a Ducati Desert X Rally (now 43) a few weeks ago, but will definitely keep it on the pavement until a get some more experience off road. As you mentioned, formal training and group rides are key.
Hello, great video and I 100% agree with your comments and related to them. I'm 52 and 2.5 years new to off-road. I've ridden road motorcycles and also lots of road cycling and mountain biking. After a 14-year hiatus riding motorcycles, I decided to buy an "off-road" motorcycle at 50. My first thought was to start with a 250 or similar. Well, I ended up buying a KTM 790 Adventure R and it was a hell of a learning curve. In 2021 I purchased a second bike, a Kawasaki KLX 300 dual sport, and love having both options but if I were to do it again, I would have bought the smaller bike first. You also made a great point with the motocross boots. I lightly sprained my ankle with ADV boots and ended up purchasing proper Alpinestars Enduro Tech 7 boots which offers much more protection.
At 55 myself, I love your honesty man!! Stay in shape, get formal training, ride weekly, practice, practice, practice....but most of all, know your limits and have fun!
Excellent video! I'm turning 64 this year and one component that allows me to stay in the game is staying in shape. Riding my mountain bike benefits my motorcycle adventure riding as the fitness, skills, and mental stamina I gain from it easily transfer over to adventure riding. As I cannot completely slow down the physiological process of aging, I am focusing more and more on strength training and flexibility exercises for better agility and injury protection. Motion is medicine. Moving is living.
Full respect to you for a very honest video. Many years ago I used a Honda XR250 for off-roading and green lanes here in the U.K. and had a great time. After a couple of years I traded up to a XR400 but within months I was back on a 250 again. I think you have to be pretty dedicated to take big ADV bikes off road and if you’re not prepared to commit you can still have a lot of un intimidating fun on a small go anywhere bike.
I think we all need to think seriously about the bike we need for the riding we can actually do. If you opt for a big adventure bike, are you doing it because you actually need the extra weight and power, or are these two things actually factors that will limit where you are able to go? So much of "rider training" for the really big ADV bikes seems to be basically an accommodation to riding a bike that is ill suited to the task at hand for a rider of average skills, strength and athletic ability. Training in this case means learning how to get where you need to go despite the bike, instead of because of it.
Thanks, for open and truthful video. I rented heavy Adventure-Bikes for over 10 years. Honestly I dropped three of them breaking/standing. I’m 2m tall and quite strong - but they drive me nuts to lift back up. Last year I got from my beloved wife a big present. A new Motobike - guess what I bought? ... ... A KTM 690 Enduro R - almost half the weight of a full equipped GS 1250 Adenture. But easy to handle, safe (ABS and Trackion control), and... I can lift it with one arm. 75 hp are more than enough. Yes - it’s not as comfortable as the BMW - But who wants to ride 600km Highway - when you can do it in 2-3 day through the country side😊 Thanks again for this video. BR Harry
i clicked on this video because the subject was interesting (though not super relevant to me at a mere 41 years young). I honestly thought it would be boring and badly edited but it was really captivating, even refreshing, to get this perspective. Well done Steve for having the courage to do this, and document it for the rest of us. It really is inspiring.
Thanks for the good reflections.👍 Fortunately, I am only 64, and am looking forward to my first season of lighter adventure riding. I bought a ktm 390 adventure, which I can lift on a good day.
Great video. I took the BMW Adventure Offroad "Intro" course last fall at age 58 having no previous off-road experience or huge bike experience in general (we rode 1250 GSs). It was super intimidating and wound up with a shoulder rotator cuff injury the second day which took 6 to 9 months to fully recover from. Even though this was "Intro" would definitely recommend lots of getting comfortable with the baby steps before doing the full course which progresses in difficulty rapidly.
I think too many of us older fellows have drunk the Kool-Aid that says you need a mid-sized to large adventure bike to travel routes that involve both on and offroad travel. I have a BMW 650 GS (the 800 CC parallel twin version). that I could not pick up in the garage after I messed up an attempt to get it onto the centrestand. This made me think very seriously about how much trouble (mechanically and medically) I could get into in the back of beyond by pushing my limits. Following Noraly Schoenmaker's (Itchy Boots) adventures on UA-cam has disabused me of the notion that you need a bike of this size and weight to go "adventuring" . Noraly has gotten into and out of places and situations that would not have been possible in a larger motorcycle. Better, I think, to start AND STAY with a bike you can manage off road - pretty much any dual purpose bike over 300 cc's will keep up with traffic on secondary roads. A bike of this size will get you where you need to go and back again, unless you actually enjoy riding at high speed on highways in the company of eighteen wheelers and heavy car traffic.
Hi Steve, enjoyed your video - good on yer mate. I am 80 this year and ride an F650GS but only onroad. Used to race Grasstrack sidecars many years ago but now just love the open road and intend doing it as long as I safely can.
50 here and saving to get my one and get back on the road. Truly amazing video Steve, very inspiring and motivating to everyone, well done you and thank you for sharing your experience and tips!! 👍👍
I’m in my mid fifties. I got my first dirt bike for my 8th birthday. A Yamaha GT80 and I was hooked. For the next 12 years I rode dirt almost everyday since there were acres and acres of woods, hills and trails near my home. Once I got my license and my first street bike (Kawasaki ZL1000) I rode pretty much road only. A few years ago I got the itch to return to my roots. I have my first and only Harley (1995 Springer softail) and my sport bike (2004 GSXR750) but neither was up to the task so I started looking for a bike to use off-road. I looked at bikes I remembered like the DR650 and XR650 but they haven’t changed since I was a kid. Heavy and underpowered with dated suspension didn’t interest me. I did some research and decided to purchase a Ktm 690 enduro r and I couldn’t be happier with it. Very good suspension, lots of ground clearance, road legal and with almost 70hp plenty of power. It’s been a great bike for me and even though I bought it to get back in the woods it’s turned out to be a great city bike as well. I use it to commute to work and quick trips to the shops a lot. It’s my got to bike for everything but the longer rides. I joke that it’s like a time machine because I feel 10 years younger whenever I throw a leg over it. What more could you ask of a bike?
Thanks for the honest review, I grew up riding dirt bikes, but the last 20 years have been on Harley's. Always wanting a GS, but I knew at age 64 I was not up to re learning off road on a 1250. So in lessoning to my BMW dealers recommendation, I purchased the 310 GS.
Been looking at a 310 myself. Have a dual sport now but wanting a more street oriented bike. Also am not into picking up a heavy bike as you know its going to go down offroad.
Hi Steve, I have ridden bikes all my life and just turned 64, I test road the GSA1200 but my high was just a bit short at 5'9" and yes I know I could've grown into it but as you said know your limits. I purchased a DR650 and it's still a bit tall but have modified the seat height so get by. I don't know what it is with us old bastards, but I guess it's just the serenity and freedom of riding. Great video and advice.
Inspiring video. I am 63, a new KLR was just delivered yesterday.. I am brand new to motorcycle riding however, so my knowledge mountain is far steeper and longer… thx for posting
I got my first bike 5 years ago, aged 58. I‘ve done around 30,000km in the last 5 years, most of that touring ON THE ROAD. My current bike is a Tiger 850 Sport, not the most off-road orientated bike, but not the worst, either, so having watched your video I have to say you have motivated me TO NEVER GO OFF-ROAD. It was the bit where you said “I have to know my limits“ that did it for me, as well as watching you fall off a number of times. Thanks, I owe you one.
I didn’t mean to kill it for you. If id started on a smaller bike I would have had the confidence to do that crossing. Now, Three years later i would do it without hesitation on the 850. It’s a matter of building up skills and confidence, and for a me a smaller bike would have been a faster path. Cheers
@@StevesBikes01 Thanks, but you didn’t kill anything and I‘m still happy with the outcome. You opened my eyes to MY limitations, so you really have done me a favour. After multiple broken bones skiing, I think sticking to touring is the best possible outcome for an old fart like me. 😜
Excellent video. Well done. Great content. You have discussed everything a senior adventure rider just getting into the sport would need to know. Thank you.
I started riding five years ago on dual sport yam xt250. Starting under 250cc was on advice of wife's cousin who rode since his teens. Also, starting on dual sport was also great because I would have never got some skills on road only. Yeah, I lost count of crashes and did some immensly stupid things along the way but, starting at almost 50 I don't think I could have ramped up my skills faster and have more fun in the process. I thought I would outgrow my xt but, I learned I will never be able to use all it can do. I own(ed) another four bikes and tried another 50+ on and off road. The more I ride, the more I realize how good and fun xt. Less that 300lbs, almost 80mpg if not trashing it, air cooled. Just change oil, straighten up controls after crash and keep going. Yeah, ass and knees hurt but, they hurt sitting on the sofa.
I am 73 and have been kicking this idea around since I started following Itchy Boots travel the world. I really appreciate your outlook and common sense looking at all involved, thank you.
Really well made video Steve, and some great advice from experience. I started back into riding at 59 and started shopping around for bikes at 60. I looked at the GS 850 but ended up going with a Himalayan. Not the lightest bike but at least it's not fussy about getting dropped and is quite tame. I can relate to your experience mate, cheers!
Glad I came across you mate; this is real gold to me because I'm just going through the growth process of accepting I am 70 after my mindset of being 40 til now has gotten me a few injuries that aren't coming back so fast after all. I have been off the bike for some years and have it in my blood so after shopping out the 700s etc realize that as little as 300 - 400 is enough (if I keep light) for my current folly of lone riding some distance backroading in Thailand where I've been for several years. I appreciate you for taking this on and sharing your experience, thank you. Cheers and good riding!
Thanks for posting, I wish I had seen this a few years ago, it would have saved me a lot of struggles and some injuries along the way! I got back into "Motorcycling" aged 55 after a 30 year gap. THE Biggest thing I learned in the first year was this. JUST BECAUSE you can now afford to go out and buy a big bike, DON'T, be stupid and get one! The 235 kilo adv bike that I bought for my return as just too heavy to pick up when I fell off it. (I did fall off! 😁😁) The next thing I bought was a lot lighter and I actually learned to ride again within my limits. If I could teach my younger self anything, a bike like a KTM 390 is the biggest bike you need to learn off road skills on and you probably could do everything for years until you actually had learned some skills. Ride safe! 👍
You've put together a fantastic video Steve. Your points are all well received. As older riders, we long for our youthful spirit, and why not. Rider training and knowing your limits are so important. I lost a lot of ride time with covid and given the Canadian winters even more time. I'm looking forward to this riding season but will definitely take time to re learn skills that are now rusty. Thx mate and safe journeys. If riding through Bendigo, say hi to my sister. Cheers, dave.
Steve, brilliant, thank you. I’m in a similar position 2 years into owning a KTM890 adventure s, I love it. But it’s been a steep learning curve, I can’t pick it up on my own, so love training and riding with a group. I’ve been lucky enough to find one company to ride with, would love to find more and just some like minded bikers. I agree a smaller bike would have been a better place to start. Rob
I turned 59 not long ago and though I am a young whippersnapper by some here hahaha! I think going to the gym is the most effective thing a older guy can do. It is almost impossible to overstate what a massive difference it makes lifting a few times a week. After the initial 3-4 month substantial strength gains, the progress comes slower at our age, but with determination and perseverance I have gotten much stronger (almost shockingly so) and much (MUCH!) fitter. The wife likes it too! :) New science proves that one gains strength at the same rate whether lilting extremely heavy 1-2 repetitions or lifting 15 -20 repetitions as long as 5-15 sets per week are completed. The trick for us old farts is that lighter weight leads to very few injuries providing you aren't thick headed and push through when feeling the first signs that something isn't right. The trick is adding enough weight or repetitions to get 1-2 reps from failure on every single set. Failure is immanent when the movement slows to a crawl. Great video Steve!
Great video, thanks for taking the time to put it together. I just started at 62 years old. I went to Sedlak Offroad School to get started, check out his videos on “drop heal” standing technique. Also Ryan Hughes’ videos on body position and “everything happens below the waist”. It was a huge surprise to me, how light and nimble a motorcycle can feel when controlling it from your feet and ankles and bending just at the waist. And how easy it is to ride long periods while standing when riding the way they suggest. Hope you find this helpful.
Sedlak sounds like it might be in my area? Maybe we can organize a ride together? At 61 I took an offroad riding course at MotoVentures in Temecula, CA area. It was a lot of fun to learn on small bikes. Since then I bought a Tenere 700 and found myself falling off a good number of times but the protective equipment kept the damage relatively minor. I rode with a group and found myself being way too slow but I rather like taking in the scenery and enjoying the ride rather than being in a race to finish first. My problem now is finding a group of slow riders to ride with that dont mind a leisurely pace. My goal is to do some adventure camping type rides once I get more skill and confidence to ride a bit quicker when I want. I can appreciate everything Steve told in his story and have similar experiences.
@@jb92563 yes, it would be cool to organize a ride although it is difficult to put any contact info in these comment sections without being deleted. This was good to watch Steve’s video again…I agree that having two bikes is the best way to start, a 300 or 350 dual sport bike and a larger Adventure bike.
Great video thanks , haven’t rode a bike since I was 16 but very interested in the dual purpose 500 Honda , I dont think I would be doing that much serious off road stuff to unbendy now at 64 but like not being stopped by a gravel road or a river crossing
Hey great to see you again and thanks for sharing your hard-won progress! Whippin around that e-bike like a kid! Hope you have some nice riding soon! Greetings from SoCal.
A spot on video to make sense of why we ride. The old rooster has to know his limitations and fragility. After road riding since 1968, i bought a KTM 640 Adventure and set of on an 11,000 km trip with 2 mates covering a mix of dirt back roads and minor black top throught north Qld, Borroloola, Darwin, Kununurra, Alice, Oodnadatta, the Flinders and back to Sydney. It was a great learning curve gaining new skills on easy dirt but over the six weeks of rifing every day i fell in love with the Ktm and kept it until recently racking up some 40k trouble free. To me it was the perfect size bike . 28lt fuel capacity. Vibed a bit being a single cyl chook chaser. But handled everything well. Now at 72 i decided to do more long distance road riding with minimal dirt ( nothing to technical) so i have" maybe ?" a last bike hooray and am loving my KTM 1290 Super Adventure R.. What a Hooligan machine. Well may be then a Honda 300. Cheers.
Fantastic video I'm only 30 and didn't click away because I thought I should be able to learn something but I think every single point made in the video was valuable, very good editing too 10/10
Thank you for sharing your experiences with us! I rode dirt bikes as a teenager, but didn’t ride again till about 12 years ago. Being a lot more aware of my mortality now that I’m 58, I’m not very comfortable off road; that’s what I’m working on. 😉
I just turned 62 have been riding off road for over 20 years now and was a bit taken aback when you said old😂. I don't think I'm old and plan to be riding at 90. I've been riding since I was 20 and like most grew up on road bikes. I've still got my 1150GSA but prefer to take the DR650 out when hitting the dirt. The 1150 is good on well made the dirt but the DR lets me go further afield. Had a KTM 950 too which was a great off road bike but reliability became an issue. I'm currently looking at adding another 250, not just because it's easier to ride but riding a loaded 250 through dirt backroads is very relaxing. I see a lot of "old" blokes who are not real fit and riding bikes that are too big which sadly restricts where they can go and often causes a lot of grief. On the other side of the coin I see a lot of older blokes going smaller now and extending their riding life. Don't be too egotistical to downsize if it gives you more enjoyment. Cheers.
@@StevesBikes01 😂😂. I often ride with an 81 year old. He would call you just a boy lol😂. He only rides tar but he's an inspiration riding his Honda 1980 CBX1000.
Hi Steve, great advice for someone just getting into adventure riding. I started on a dr650 and progressed to Gs1200 after a couple of years. Totally agree, training, skills and confidence comes with practice and time. By the way how's the shoulder feeling? I need the same operation you had, and wondering what was your recovery time frame. Cheers Peter
Hi Steve, wonderful review. I'm 68 and have ridden road (HD) and dirt (Honda) all my life. Decided to seriously get into Adv. Weight and reliability were my top priorities. While waiting for the Honda CRF300 Rally for 6 months, I was introduced to the Suzuki DR650. Relatively light, great power and easy to work on, which is satisfying to me. 6.6 gallon tank and I can go anywhere. Colorado BDR goes over 11,000+ foot mountain passes no problem. No problem picking it up and if I crash it, so what. Only problem, where can I attach my ego? I phone 14 has satellite capabilities and Bob's your uncle (Did I use that right?). Why are adventure riders so old? Because we finally have the time to take off and do what we want to. If we are in good enough shape to still do it, good on ya, and proud of it. Starting out? Weight, realistic expectations and ego are the enemy. Yes, all my friends ride proper adv bikes (GS), but I go so much farther off road. The Himalayan is also a great option (lower seat, simple) but heavier. Riding to live is so much better from a mountain top or lakeside.
Seems like we all men riders go through the same fever, after riding street bikes for 20 years I decided to try off road, I couldn’t afford anything fancy, so I got me a KLR 650 with no special bear other than what I already had. I also couldn’t afford any safari training team, so here I go alone looking for dirt road and dunes to try my new bike, what an awakening. You need true riding skills to ride on the dirt, you need not to be afraid to laid down your bike frequently and be complete armored not to get hurt, be willing to scratch and trash your new shiny bike from the first outing, it takes a whole different spirit. It is not something you want to do alone, it is very scary to be out in the woods specially here we have black bears, out in the middle of no where, all by yourself, rough terrain, difficult to maneuver or out run a four legged animal, it is just not safe, and if you break a leg at 64 the healing process is not the same as when you 17. So, after all those realizations, I sold the KLR and got a Versys, back on the tarmac, familiar territory, life is great again.
I rode a BMW R100 GS for 28 years and just loved it. As I got older I slowly migrated to lighter bikes and every time I did I said to myself………why didn’t I do this years ago? I sold my beloved Airhead (☹) and ride a DR650 now for all around use and DR 350 for more aggressive off road riding. 73+ now and still having a ball.
77 and sold my KLR 650 yesterday. Got my 43 year old Yamaha XT 500 out of storage for my new ride. The KLR at 500 pounds is too heavy and tall for an old man. The old XT 500 is just perfect!
Excellent piece. I am 61, with many years road riding, but very little off road experience. About 5 years ago, my daughter had planned an off road experience day for my birthday. I was worried that, as a 5' 6' rider, I would struggle with the height of the bikes. This fear was made worse by 20+ years of riding cruisers, with very low seat heights. We ended up cancelling and I still regret this. About a year ago I downsized my 1100 cc cruiser for a Royal Enfield Scram and so have now got used to a higher bike.
When I was young at 79, I decided racing sailboat is lake Erie was too dangerous. So, I learned how to ride motorcycles on a 2017 Yamaha TW200, got my license endorsement three months later riding a Harley Street 500. Bought my first bike, a 2022 CB500X that I dropped more than once, nothing serious. However, sadly I totaled it at end of September with 8,700 miles on a township gravel road in a 28 inch deep clay pit. In late October I bought a 2024 Transalp 750 and have clocked 600 miles on it, but alas only rode selective days, as a very wet & cold fall in northern Ohio and now winter is setting in. You age is not the barrier, if you can ride a bicycle you have balance, if you are reasonably fit you can ride adventure bike, unless your vertically challenged. I ride alone hitting gravel and dirt roads in Amish country, the weight of the bike is everything, a CB weighed 439 pounds, I could lift, the Transalp 750 is only 459 pounds with a center of gravity no higher than the CB500X. If, a big if, i was going to ride on single trail, forest logging, or fire break roads I wouldn't ride solo. But I'm not so young that I'm stupid, as it was said, a man has to know his limitations.
I'm 96 and stuck in a care facility. I used to ride Harleys until I couldn't, 12 years ago. For my birthday my son gave me a "stage 4" Harley wheelchair, with Timken wheel bearings and straight pipes.
It has Harley stickers and orange and black fabric. I almost cried. Don't ever give up life.
Hi, thank you so much for your comment. Part of the reason I do these is to preserve my memories. If you have time you might like “Steve’s Tesla” and also “ Steve’s art” which is a work in progress. Cheers
Steve, it takes guts to publicly share your limits and errors made and I salute you for doing so! Honest stories are rare on YT and worth gold.
I'm 74. I really like your spirit and determination to keep riding off-road adv style bikes! I had the 1200GS for 2.5 years and liked to ride solo off-road like I have done for many decades. Being self-competitive, I kept increasing my speeds, and increasing the difficulty of the terrain, riding more challenging steep mountain trails that I had never been on before. I made sure to stay in shape by going to the gym 3-4 times a week for strength training to forestall arthritis. But after several get-offs (no major injuries), usually on steep, muddy and gullied mountain trails with no help in sight, just me rotating and lifting that beast up and out of a gully, I decided to sell my 600 lb GS and take a break on big motorcycles. Just yesterday I scratched that old familiar itch and bought a 2023 KTM 890 Adventure. This bike is some 130 lbs lighter and considerably less top heavy to lift up from a fall I have been assured. So this spring I'll be back at it. Keep the spirit!
Well done David, thanks
Good on you friend!
Interesting read indeed. I am 1 year younger than you and am just off-loading my SuperTenere which has seen the likes of the Gibb River Road etc and moved on to a T700 Yamaha. Whilst I miss the arm chair comforts of the S10 (several Nullarbor crossings, also including one 1700 km day) I am now looking forward to going further off road with some 60 Kg less to fight and shorter runs. Am heading off to do a lap of Tassie (from Perth) within the next 8 months or so, but will be travelling solo which is my preference. Parts of the old Telegraph Track from Norseman to Balladonia and old Eyre Highway to Ceduna are the targets, as well as spending as much time on dirt as is possible. Doin' it for the old guys I reckon, and loving it.
Off-road, if you aren't racing, you never need more than 200. And a lighter bike is infinitely more maneuverable. And you can find carbs everywhere. Because lawnmower shops have sufficient size carbs in their back room.
You gimme the courage David....thanks...
One of the best ADV vids I've ever seen. The honesty, sincerity and courage is commendable. Spot-on advice. Absolute legend.
G’day, thanks very much for the feedback, cheers
Yes, totally agree with the above. All excellent advice Steve, thank you for creating this valuable resource.
@@TonyCBX6 Thanks Tony
68, and living full time on the bike with my dog. Lots of offroad and lots of learning in the last 14 months/40,000,, miles. My DR650 fits the bill perfectly. Keep it up youngster. 😂😊😊
Brilliant, see my recent video about sending me your videos as i would like to include your story, cheers
I'm 62 and can't imagine not riding, I haven't spent a lot of time off road since I was a kid but now all I want to do is off road.
@reedsartor
This is exactly how I feel. I got a 2017 cb500x ( in early 2018) and due to stupidity in the first 57 years 30 something surgeries later I only have 1500 miles , 1490 on the street. But I have high hopes that 2024 will be better. I just got cleared from the back surgeon that I can start riding again. I want to do at least a little of the BDR in 2024.
Hope you get in all the riding you hope to.
We may be old and some of us are more broke up than others BUT WE ARE NOT DEAD YET.
@@marshallcollins8634 true to all that my friend. But as of late I'm thinking maybe I need to build myself a little chopper for running around town. 🤔
Happy new year and lots of safe miles to ya. 😎👍🍻
@@reedsartofadventure I have had a (Honda 750 4 / Kz 1000 chopper in my head with a sugarbear springer on an Amen savior frame (70’s style) for 20 years . would love to see pics of yours WHEN it’s done. I’m sure it will be a blast.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Imay also be nudged into doing mine if this dirt thing doesn’t play well with my broke up body.
No matter what I still have the 77 Kz 650 and the ZRX 1200 I can polish and many take to shows.
Who knows maybe I’ll see you at a chopper show/ meet up. If you’re in the U.S.
i was born in 1945. I re-started my biking after 20 year break. I purchased a 310 GS BMW in 2019m I went to an adventure riding school here in South Jersey. Learned lots of skills. Dropped bike a dozen times, no injuries. I traded up to an 800. BUT I won a 1200 GS (used) what a joy. Now i have a perfect bike with a 'lift' just in case I drop it, ride on...
Hey well done, ride on …
Hi what do you mean by a Lift. Thanks mate.
Older rider= wiser rider
Older rider= more self aware rider
My deepest respects to you sir, from me, a 125 Yamaha XmaX scooter rider
Thanks mate, cheers
I'm 61, and started ADV riding just two years ago. I've done 10,000 miles per year, and I have no intention of slowing down. This video has tons of very good information, and it's easy to tell it's coming from someone who has "been there, done that." I hope that I find more from you, I really like your realistic approach to riding, and the fact that you seem to be just above my level. I can really relate to your style and your presentation. Thank you!
Hi, thank you. I doubt I’m above anyone’s level ha ha. Please subscribe and check out some of my older videos to see where I’ve come from. Cheers
Maybe i'm not quite in the "older guys" camp yet at 49, but i recently picked up a motorbike with the same wants, dreams and aspirations as you. My bike is a well equipped DR650 i picked up for rather cheap. Turned out to be an excellent first bike... maybe too excellent as I have no desire for anything else. I have no want for any rider aids like abs, traction control, etc. Anyhow, This past august i did my first multi-day singletrack adventure on the Hatfield McCoy trails in West Virginia. Almost exactly one year to the date of buying my first motorcycle, I managed all 3 days of riding and even conquered some black diamond trails. What a ton of fun it was. In one year i went from "only idiots with a death wish ride motorcycles" to "I wish my bike could hold as much as my truck so i can sell it". I pray in another 14 years i have the power and finesse to do what you are doing. sir, you are an inspiration. Thanks for this video and great tips. One tip i think you way wanna add to your list is always be a gear lower than you think you need. It was repeated to me a lot on the Hatfield trails and it will make a difference on steep climbs and descents. One other small tip is never stop on an uphill. If you are slipping add more gas, hang on tight and let the bike do the climbing. Once stopped on a steep climb and you are in some trouble. Had it happen once or twice and each time it was rather challenging to get the bike stable enough to continue the ride. Also wore myself out trying to get the bike up and workable.
G’day, thanks for the feedback. I’m reading this and imagining cowboy trails and John Denver from the description of the location. I’ve learned a few painfull lessons and stalling on a hill is one of them. Cheers
I'm 61, just bought a used Honda crf 250l, going to ride as much of Vancouver Island as possible while I still can!
I'm 64 and loving my KTM 390 Adventure.
Hi Steve
I'm 59 years old. Your sincere video showed me I'm on the right track. Being on a bike is just as good as being on a beautiful woman.
Ha ha I’ll take both thanks, cheers
I just turned 64 last week. I started riding at age 8 on a 100cc dirt bike. I started riding on the street at age 16. I've ridden over one million miles and owned over 50 bikes. Dirt bikes, street bikes, a couple of what I call standards, a couple of Goldwings, but mostly cruisers, from 450cc to 1800cc. I've never owned what most people call an "adventure bike" unless you count a pretty much fully decked out KLR650, complete with aluminum panniers many years ago. I even had to give up small dual sports a couple years ago. Because of serious knee and hip joint problems, I could no longer get my leg over the seat of my Yamaha XT225 without standing on something. I used to take long rides out into the AZ desert on dual sport bikes, but gave that up when I realized I could no longer fix a flat tube type tire by myself out in the middle of nowhere. I would be stranded, with no one to call, and unable to walk out. And my road service plan doesn't work off road. I have no options but to ride alone. I have never known anyone else who rode a motorcycle, either on or off road. I sure wish somebody made a 250cc or similar bike capable of at least dirt road and smooth trail riding with about a 28" seat height and tubeless tires. More of a dirt road bike than an actual dirt bike.
Suzuki v strom 250 cc may be good for you
I went ridding about 15 miles into the Arizona desert on a Honda 400 dual sport, it was about 120 degrees that day, I ran over some small barrel cactus and had a flat front tire, but with rim locks you don’t need to fix it, just ride it out and that’s exactly what I did the entire 15 miles, it actually handled really good in those sandy washes. After I got home the tire was still fine, all it needed was a new tube. I like your story thanks for sharing.
63 Years old next month, 20 year old BMW R1150 GSA that I ride and have ridden for past 3 Years and love it, I also have a CRF 250 for my weaker moments which is also good fun and very forgiving, a good video, enjoyed it.
Thanks Jon
58 years old myself, 60 my brother, and both still riding our motorcycles. Congratulations from Mexico!!!
I'm 63 and after years of big bike (BMW 1200GSA) riding I took a step back and analyzed my riding style and needs. I ride primarily alone or with 1 other bike, generally class 3-4 or single track roads with an average off road speed of 30-50 mph. With that said, I sold my GSA and bought a Husky FE 350 enduro (street legal) and am infinitely happier. I can self rescue (the bike weighs 110 kilos) and with a Nomad ADV fairing and Mosko panniers I have the same storage as my GS did. If I plan a long trip a distance from home I put the bike in the back of my Tacoma, drive in comfort and unload and ride. I think with a little caution and keeping in good shape I'll be able to ride off road into my early 70's. Your video is a great "less is more" lesson.
Great, thanks so much cheers
We are not guaranteed the next breath. It is foolish to say what you will be doing a year from now let alone 7 years from now. At any age, anything can happen.
@@JohnSmith-uy7sv troll. Unnecessary derogatory comment
Never too old so long as you can get your leg over the saddle
@@MikelLee Necessary life lesson to know where you will spend eternity and that none of us are gods and we don't know when our last breath will be. Warning others is not trolling and or derogatory. I never said anything nasty or derogatory. That is just in your millennial woke cancel culture mind. You don't like what someone says and your feelings get hurt. toughen up buttercup. this is reality. Do you think God will baby you on judgement day and cut you slack for the evil life you have lived? No. We will all give an account for our lives. Either good or bad. It's Biblical. Grow up. get out of your parents basement and get a job.
Great video - am 81 and ride F900XR for lazy touring, R1200R for quick touring and day rides, and F700GS for city riding to coffee or business
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Well done John, cheers
Hahaha! What a coincidence! I also gave up my BMW R1200RT and bought a small BMW G310GS to start adventure riding. I am also 64 and have been riding since 1980 starting with a Honda CB 360, then upgraded to Honda Silverwing CX500, took a break after we had kids then started riding again 10 years ago. I can't wait to start Adventure Riding. Thanks for this video, I am now more motivated to ride off road.
Thanks glad it resonated cheers
Good advice Steve. I'm 65 and riding a Honda 300, the smaller bike is a very good way to start and confidence building.
Hey thanks, I’m still thinking a Honda 300 might be in my future
@@StevesBikes01 I’ve taken mine from England to Spain its fine but not a BMW. If you do decide to get one, cost in a suspension upgrade and try to forget the BMW service levels!
Hi Steve. What a humble and Honest video😎 as you know I am 65 and purchased my F750 GS specifically for my short height and don’t need more power. Great advice also for all us ‘younger riders’ Patrick
Hey Patrick glad you liked it. We will ride again !
@@StevesBikes01Hi Steve, bought my 750 GS for same reason, 5’6’’. 30’’ inseam. I want to go off road but needed a smaller ride. I doubt the guys would let me ride my Honda 125 with them. I am hoping to get more off road skills with some real training courses in the near future.
Thank you,I'm 60 have always wanted to ride one,thank you I thought I was crazy❤❤❤❤❤
On my 30s and its GREAT to see bikers on their 60s or 70s 🤙🏻💪🏻👏🏼
You, Sir, nailed it !!!! I am 60 years old and bought a 2022 r1250 GSA, my dream bike !!!! ...... got the proper tires ....... listened to folks like you ...... went gravel road riding in Texas (G#d's Country !!!!) and I am ridiculously hooked !!!!!! I had my first "dump". No damage to myself or my "Kaethe"...it was sand !!! My nemesis !!!!! ..... BUT WHAT A RUSH !!!!! I am retired from Boeing after 35 years and I feel like a kid again with common sense, this time. And the folks I meet like you are the best !!! Thank you for your video and thank you for talking about "us" ..... the "silver bearded crowd" ..... And I am hopelessly in love with my "Boxxer" ..... she's a big Girl but she can dance ..... just choose the music "wisely" .... 🙂
G’day, I can’t respond to everyone but i wanted to say thank you to you Kurt for your comments. Good luck out there. If you like my nonsense then try “Steve’s Tesla” too if you’re into EV’s. cheers
@@StevesBikes01 NO Sir !!!! Nothing you do is "nonsense" !!!! LOL 🙂
Good for you…I am approaching 74 and got back into motorcycling about 9 years again when my wife ( #2 and younger wanted to learn .. I rode back in the 60’s …our agreement was get training … street, track,dirt and adventure all of which we did and continue to do…I agree with you on the smaller bikes not only to start on but to continue on… I now ride a Royal Enfield Himalayan for my off road and adventure rides, a bigger Honda NC 750X for touring and a Kawasaki Z400 for my track days…and a Royal Enfield Continental GT for what I call my coffee shop Sunday ride…the Himalayan is my daily go to bike…So smaller is better in my opinion and continuous practice and training are keys to enjoyment in my opinion…I also believe that maintain a reasonable level of fitness is also very helpful. Finally being realistic with my goals and objectives in whatever riding I am doing …as you pointed out over the 3 years you have progressed significantly and that to me is the important point .. always learning is the key to enjoyment and happiness in my opinion ..no matter how slow I progress I am always progressing more than those that are not been try ( at anything motorcycling or anything lease for that matter).. so good on ya mate…keep on rolling on… ride well..
Thanks Brian, yes we have to keep in shape as we age. Cheers
@@StevesBikes01 I cant recall who said it I always remember the quote.. “aging is inevitable growing old is optional….have a good day and roll on…
60 year old here and love riding my Goldwing and KTM500exc-f..
I, like you, have watched a gazillion moto videos and this is the one that finally made me come to senses to keep my road bike and start with a dirt bike. Thx.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching cheers
There's no denying that being able to touch the ground with your feet is a major confidence booster. The momentum thing comes with time and practice for sure. As we get older we realize that getting hurt actually hurts and takes longer to recover. I've crashed plenty of times and have been lucky to only receive minor injuries. Having the right gear on helps a lot in preventing serious injuries. Good job and good tips. I started on smaller bikes and worked my way up. Even with many years riding off road I don't feel comfortable riding a big heavy bike off road doing single track jumps etc... And going fast is fun on the street, it's overrated off road. Besides, taking your time to enjoy nature is way more pleasant than ripping through the woods so quickly that you miss everything.
Yeah,taking it easy is way to go.Steve mentioned the "sweet spot"between not too slow or fast but just right. I've done offroad when younger but now the vstrom is me commuter.
Loved the honesty...we buy them because we can afford them.
I’m 64 and I love long solo ride on-road with my honda x adv. Thanks for yor inspiring channel
Thank you too
Im 64 and just purchased a v strom 250. If I’m at the back of the pack Im getting the best view of the riding 😁
Good choice! Cheers
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This is honestly a great video regardless of your age. I'm 36, so I'm not old but also not young, but my F750GS was still too much bike for my first off-road motorcycle. All of the marketing hype around the bigger bikes made me think it was the best way to start. In hindsight, I would have been better off on a smaller dual sport. I'm picking up a small 300 Honda or 350 KTM soon.
Great feedback thanks for watching. Cheers
Congratulations to you..I am 72yrs & have been riding 50yrs. I have a Harley road bike, Honda650 dual sport & Zero electric dual sport. Adventure & learning everyday.
Well done, I’m going electric next, cheers
thanks for the video. I've been convinced that the best thing to do with my WeeStrom is stay on the pavement, as most owners do. THanks to you for helping me to see the light rather than the surgery. 70 is no time to pretend you aren't old.
i'm 31 and just started riding on a drz400s, my first motor vehicle of any kind. all your advice seems to apply perfectly to me, too! fantastic video
I'm 65 and fit, got rid of my GS700 and am enjoying my DRZ400. So much easier and funner off road.
Sick and tired of the attitude your life is over at 50, 60 or older. It aint. If you can't do it physically be young at heart.
Agreed, when you’re 49 years, 364 days old you’re fine, the next day when you turn fifty it all miraculously changes, go figure !
Improve your diet, exercise vigorously, plan appropriately, and go for it.
My opinion. It starts with laziness & top it with in-agreement with too old.
I couldn't agree more. We older folks buy bigger more expensive bike because we could afford them but that doesn't mean it's the right bike for us. For me, I prefer smaller bikes for off road riding. It's just easier to maneuver and pick up when drop.
Yeah it took me three years to come to the same conclusion
Well done! At 63 I don’t what I want to do when I grow up. Planning a fall trip to Colorado to do the Ducati Challenge, 12 passes above 12,000’. Multistrada 1200 Enduro. Won’t be alone!
I’m 55, been riding motorcycles for over 40 years. Owned many types of bikes. The best adventure bike is undoubtedly the Kawasaki KLR650. Tough as nails, inexpensive, fairly lightweight, countless mods, plenty of power. Can go around the corner for a coffee, or around the country with ease. In my opinion, way better than any BMW.
Excellent, thanks for watching
Great video! You bring up so many of the points that I've been debating in my head. I'm 56 and realize that my off road skills are practically non existent. I've been looking at getting an Adv bike and have come to the conclusion that I will go with a smaller one to start with as my body can't afford to pay the bills that my brain seems to think it can.
Keep up the excellent work.
Consider the KTM 350 or 500excf, it has horse power, suspension, very light weight and some accesories for making it go further distances. Watch Taco Moto vids for what they do to improve bikes for older vet riders.
This was an amazing video, really good realistic info and a humble plain spoken narration that we probably don't get enough of on the internet. Great video Steve!
Much appreciated!
Sage advice et al, I’m 64 and reserve the big bike for the street. I have found my Beta 500 to be a livable compromise, I’m at altitude in the Rocky Mountains and most anything in the 350-650 range is more than adequate, FI is a big plus. The Beta a bit light/lack of stability on the street, easily capable of sustained interstate speeds, but capable of exceeding my ability off-road. And yes when you ride off-road at some point you will go down. This bike weighs 250 lbs/113 kg and on a hill, can be a struggle to upright and reorient. As others have mentioned keeping our strength in check will help us to enjoy this adventure we love.
In my 70's and a GS Adventure rider for decades... there is a time to go smaller. Still, I kept my 1250 GS Adventure, but purchased a 650 VStrom Adventure, a few years ago, and now I am thinking about going smaller again, this time, to a 300cc, lighter, closer to the ground, and something that will allow me to plant my feet and more easily muscle around... better than not Adventure off-road riding at all... that 1250 GS even if not full of gas or gear, is beyond my abilities off road... and I know it. Great UA-cam posting.
Thanks mate, ride on. Cheers
I did go smaller again, delivery tomorrow, Versys 300X Adventure, already thinking about some duel sport trips....
Great video! I’m 59 and 3 years ago bought a KLR 650. One summer and I needed more POWER so bought a BMW GS800. So glad I made the change….But about size, I’m 5’7 and 150. Still took that bike through the Rocky Mountains including part of the Colorado BDR!
My big breakthrough was when I ditched the “50/50” tires and bought FULL NOBBIES!
Helped my confidence a lot knowing I wasn’t going to wash out in turns because of losing traction
I'm 56 and have a KLR650 on order. I've been riding a Himalayan for 3-4 years and I love it, but it's slightly underpowered for me.
Thanks young man! We all need to hear this over a certain vintage. All too easy for the wallet to make us into super hero's! The beauty is, the more you develop the skills the lighter the riding inputs become so things do get easier with practice. See Luke's post below regarding weight transfer into the feet......
I'm 70 and just bought a Africa Twin, I have been riding street bikes for 35 years, you have given me lots to think about, thanks for sharing .
Excellent cheers
People like you inspire me ! Thank you Sir!
Wow, thank you
“Momentum is that magic speed between too slow and too fast” best description out there!
Thanks! I made that up as no one could tell me! Cheers
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The saying for off-road driving, at least here in the US, is “As slow as possible, as fast as necessary.”
Great video, thanks for sharing! I started on a KTM 500EXC at 41 and am still learning a lot off road. Just added a Ducati Desert X Rally (now 43) a few weeks ago, but will definitely keep it on the pavement until a get some more experience off road. As you mentioned, formal training and group rides are key.
Hello, great video and I 100% agree with your comments and related to them. I'm 52 and 2.5 years new to off-road. I've ridden road motorcycles and also lots of road cycling and mountain biking. After a 14-year hiatus riding motorcycles, I decided to buy an "off-road" motorcycle at 50. My first thought was to start with a 250 or similar. Well, I ended up buying a KTM 790 Adventure R and it was a hell of a learning curve. In 2021 I purchased a second bike, a Kawasaki KLX 300 dual sport, and love having both options but if I were to do it again, I would have bought the smaller bike first. You also made a great point with the motocross boots. I lightly sprained my ankle with ADV boots and ended up purchasing proper Alpinestars Enduro Tech 7 boots which offers much more protection.
This wasn't for the older riders. There is a lot of wisdom shared here, and I kept watching. Glad I did! Great points and educational value.
Thanks Brian, cheers
At 55 myself, I love your honesty man!! Stay in shape, get formal training, ride weekly, practice, practice, practice....but most of all, know your limits and have fun!
Thanks Andrew, cheers
Excellent video! I'm turning 64 this year and one component that allows me to stay in the game is staying in shape. Riding my mountain bike benefits my motorcycle adventure riding as the fitness, skills, and mental stamina I gain from it easily transfer over to adventure riding. As I cannot completely slow down the physiological process of aging, I am focusing more and more on strength training and flexibility exercises for better agility and injury protection. Motion is medicine. Moving is living.
Great advice, do you think viewers would be interested in learning about an online keep fit for riding trainer?
@@StevesBikes01 Oh, most definitely! We would be thrilled to see some form of a fitness progression routine or regimen.
Full respect to you for a very honest video. Many years ago I used a Honda XR250 for off-roading and green lanes here in the U.K. and had a great time. After a couple of years I traded up to a XR400 but within months I was back on a 250 again.
I think you have to be pretty dedicated to take big ADV bikes off road and if you’re not prepared to commit you can still have a lot of un intimidating fun on a small go anywhere bike.
I decided to back into dirt riding at the age of 49. I bought a 125. To each his own I guess!
I think we all need to think seriously about the bike we need for the riding we can actually do. If you opt for a big adventure bike, are you doing it because you actually need the extra weight and power, or are these two things actually factors that will limit where you are able to go? So much of "rider training" for the really big ADV bikes seems to be basically an accommodation to riding a bike that is ill suited to the task at hand for a rider of average skills, strength and athletic ability. Training in this case means learning how to get where you need to go despite the bike, instead of because of it.
Totally agree. Why do you need 40 plus HP? CRF 300 IS the perfect off roader and people have gone round the world on them.
Im 63 and love my KLR650. Not as big or fancy as a BMW. But still has all the power I need.
Thanks, for open and truthful video.
I rented heavy Adventure-Bikes for over 10 years.
Honestly I dropped three of them breaking/standing.
I’m 2m tall and quite strong - but they drive me nuts to lift back up.
Last year I got from my beloved wife a big present.
A new Motobike - guess what I bought?
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A KTM 690 Enduro R - almost half the weight of a full equipped GS 1250 Adenture.
But easy to handle, safe (ABS and Trackion control), and...
I can lift it with one arm.
75 hp are more than enough.
Yes - it’s not as comfortable as the BMW - But who wants to ride 600km Highway - when you can do it in 2-3 day through the country side😊
Thanks again for this video.
BR Harry
Thank you. “Let’s ride!” Cheers
i clicked on this video because the subject was interesting (though not super relevant to me at a mere 41 years young). I honestly thought it would be boring and badly edited but it was really captivating, even refreshing, to get this perspective.
Well done Steve for having the courage to do this, and document it for the rest of us. It really is inspiring.
Thank you Peter. Try “Steve’s Tesla” on UA-cam too if you’re into EV’s. cheers
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Thanks for the good reflections.👍 Fortunately, I am only 64, and am looking forward to my first season of lighter adventure riding. I bought a ktm 390 adventure, which I can lift on a good day.
You young guys ! All the best mate thanks for watching
Great video. I took the BMW Adventure Offroad "Intro" course last fall at age 58 having no previous off-road experience or huge bike experience in general (we rode 1250 GSs). It was super intimidating and wound up with a shoulder rotator cuff injury the second day which took 6 to 9 months to fully recover from. Even though this was "Intro" would definitely recommend lots of getting comfortable with the baby steps before doing the full course which progresses in difficulty rapidly.
I think too many of us older fellows have drunk the Kool-Aid that says you need a mid-sized to large adventure bike to travel routes that involve both on and offroad travel. I have a BMW 650 GS (the 800 CC parallel twin version). that I could not pick up in the garage after I messed up an attempt to get it onto the centrestand. This made me think very seriously about how much trouble (mechanically and medically) I could get into in the back of beyond by pushing my limits. Following Noraly Schoenmaker's (Itchy Boots) adventures on UA-cam has disabused me of the notion that you need a bike of this size and weight to go "adventuring" . Noraly has gotten into and out of places and situations that would not have been possible in a larger motorcycle. Better, I think, to start AND STAY with a bike you can manage off road - pretty much any dual purpose bike over 300 cc's will keep up with traffic on secondary roads. A bike of this size will get you where you need to go and back again, unless you actually enjoy riding at high speed on highways in the company of eighteen wheelers and heavy car traffic.
I love that you bought a talaria. We have 3 surrons and 2 talarias. I found your channel as we are going from them to adventure bikes!
How about that. I’m loving the Talaria. Cheers
Am 62 year old Brit biker soon to venture first time off road. Riding on road since 1976. Weapon of choice : RE Himalayan.
Hi Steve, enjoyed your video - good on yer mate. I am 80 this year and ride an F650GS but only onroad. Used to race Grasstrack sidecars many years ago but now just love the open road and intend doing it as long as I safely can.
Thanks mate, I plan to do the same as you as I age. Cheers
50 here and saving to get my one and get back on the road. Truly amazing video Steve, very inspiring and motivating to everyone, well done you and thank you for sharing your experience and tips!! 👍👍
I’m in my mid fifties. I got my first dirt bike for my 8th birthday. A Yamaha GT80 and I was hooked. For the next 12 years I rode dirt almost everyday since there were acres and acres of woods, hills and trails near my home. Once I got my license and my first street bike (Kawasaki ZL1000) I rode pretty much road only. A few years ago I got the itch to return to my roots. I have my first and only Harley (1995 Springer softail) and my sport bike (2004 GSXR750) but neither was up to the task so I started looking for a bike to use off-road. I looked at bikes I remembered like the DR650 and XR650 but they haven’t changed since I was a kid. Heavy and underpowered with dated suspension didn’t interest me. I did some research and decided to purchase a Ktm 690 enduro r and I couldn’t be happier with it. Very good suspension, lots of ground clearance, road legal and with almost 70hp plenty of power. It’s been a great bike for me and even though I bought it to get back in the woods it’s turned out to be a great city bike as well. I use it to commute to work and quick trips to the shops a lot. It’s my got to bike for everything but the longer rides. I joke that it’s like a time machine because I feel 10 years younger whenever I throw a leg over it. What more could you ask of a bike?
Wonderful to hear from you, cheers
What a great, no ego, video.
Thank you, it is what it is, cheers
Thanks for the honest review, I grew up riding dirt bikes, but the last 20 years have been on Harley's. Always wanting a GS, but I knew at age 64 I was not up to re learning off road on a 1250. So in lessoning to my BMW dealers recommendation, I purchased the 310 GS.
Been looking at a 310 myself. Have a dual sport now but wanting a more street oriented bike. Also am not into picking up a heavy bike as you know its going to go down offroad.
Hi Steve, I have ridden bikes all my life and just turned 64, I test road the GSA1200 but my high was just a bit short at 5'9" and yes I know I could've grown into it but as you said know your limits. I purchased a DR650 and it's still a bit tall but have modified the seat height so get by. I don't know what it is with us old bastards, but I guess it's just the serenity and freedom of riding. Great video and advice.
Thanks Rodney. We gotta get out there. Try “Steve’s Tesla” if you’re into EVs cheers
and you will love that DR650 like a close friend. Drop it? Pick it up and ride
Thats a fantastic bike! Light and agile! These heavy bikes are usless offroad, unless you develop an amazing driving techniques!
Inspiring video.
I am 63, a new KLR was just delivered yesterday.. I am brand new to motorcycle riding however, so my knowledge mountain is far steeper and longer… thx for posting
Best of luck, get some training. Cheers
I got my first bike 5 years ago, aged 58. I‘ve done around 30,000km in the last 5 years, most of that touring ON THE ROAD. My current bike is a Tiger 850 Sport, not the most off-road orientated bike, but not the worst, either, so having watched your video I have to say you have motivated me TO NEVER GO OFF-ROAD. It was the bit where you said “I have to know my limits“ that did it for me, as well as watching you fall off a number of times. Thanks, I owe you one.
I didn’t mean to kill it for you. If id started on a smaller bike I would have had the confidence to do that crossing. Now, Three years later i would do it without hesitation on the 850. It’s a matter of building up skills and confidence, and for a me a smaller bike would have been a faster path. Cheers
@@StevesBikes01 Thanks, but you didn’t kill anything and I‘m still happy with the outcome. You opened my eyes to MY limitations, so you really have done me a favour. After multiple broken bones skiing, I think sticking to touring is the best possible outcome for an old fart like me. 😜
Cheers from Canada...appreciated your comments as a 76-year-old rider of an ADV bike.
Thanks from Australia
Excellent video. Well done. Great content. You have discussed everything a senior adventure rider just getting into the sport would need to know. Thank you.
I started riding five years ago on dual sport yam xt250. Starting under 250cc was on advice of wife's cousin who rode since his teens. Also, starting on dual sport was also great because I would have never got some skills on road only. Yeah, I lost count of crashes and did some immensly stupid things along the way but, starting at almost 50 I don't think I could have ramped up my skills faster and have more fun in the process. I thought I would outgrow my xt but, I learned I will never be able to use all it can do. I own(ed) another four bikes and tried another 50+ on and off road. The more I ride, the more I realize how good and fun xt. Less that 300lbs, almost 80mpg if not trashing it, air cooled. Just change oil, straighten up controls after crash and keep going. Yeah, ass and knees hurt but, they hurt sitting on the sofa.
People underestimate just how much you can do with a little 250 - they’re a natural starting point
What an interesting, informative and charming gentleman! I admire your honesty and recommends!
Thank you kindly!
I am 73 and have been kicking this idea around since I started following Itchy Boots travel the world. I really appreciate your outlook and common sense looking at all involved, thank you.
Really well made video Steve, and some great advice from experience. I started back into riding at 59 and started shopping around for bikes at 60. I looked at the GS 850 but ended up going with a Himalayan. Not the lightest bike but at least it's not fussy about getting dropped and is quite tame. I can relate to your experience mate, cheers!
Glad I came across you mate; this is real gold to me because I'm just going through the growth process of accepting I am 70 after my mindset of being 40 til now has gotten me a few injuries that aren't coming back so fast after all. I have been off the bike for some years and have it in my blood so after shopping out the 700s etc realize that as little as 300 - 400 is enough (if I keep light) for my current folly of lone riding some distance backroading in Thailand where I've been for several years. I appreciate you for taking this on and sharing your experience, thank you. Cheers and good riding!
Thanks Ronnie, it seems to have struck a cord with a lot of us, cheers
Thanks for posting, I wish I had seen this a few years ago, it would have saved me a lot of struggles and some injuries along the way! I got back into "Motorcycling" aged 55 after a 30 year gap. THE Biggest thing I learned in the first year was this. JUST BECAUSE you can now afford to go out and buy a big bike, DON'T, be stupid and get one! The 235 kilo adv bike that I bought for my return as just too heavy to pick up when I fell off it. (I did fall off! 😁😁) The next thing I bought was a lot lighter and I actually learned to ride again within my limits. If I could teach my younger self anything, a bike like a KTM 390 is the biggest bike you need to learn off road skills on and you probably could do everything for years until you actually had learned some skills. Ride safe! 👍
Thanks for watching, cheers
Thats a wise man sharing some practical experience, sincerely appreciate it.
Hi thank you
You've put together a fantastic video Steve. Your points are all well received. As older riders, we long for our youthful spirit, and why not. Rider training and knowing your limits are so important. I lost a lot of ride time with covid and given the Canadian winters even more time. I'm looking forward to this riding season but will definitely take time to re learn skills that are now rusty. Thx mate and safe journeys. If riding through Bendigo, say hi to my sister. Cheers, dave.
Absolutely, cheers mate
Steve, brilliant, thank you. I’m in a similar position 2 years into owning a KTM890 adventure s, I love it. But it’s been a steep learning curve, I can’t pick it up on my own, so love training and riding with a group. I’ve been lucky enough to find one company to ride with, would love to find more and just some like minded bikers. I agree a smaller bike would have been a better place to start. Rob
I turned 59 not long ago and though I am a young whippersnapper by some here hahaha! I think going to the gym is the most effective thing a older guy can do.
It is almost impossible to overstate what a massive difference it makes lifting a few times a week. After the initial 3-4 month substantial strength gains, the progress comes slower at our age, but with determination and perseverance I have gotten much stronger (almost shockingly so) and much (MUCH!) fitter.
The wife likes it too! :)
New science proves that one gains strength at the same rate whether lilting extremely heavy 1-2 repetitions or lifting 15 -20 repetitions as long as 5-15 sets per week are completed. The trick for us old farts is that lighter weight leads to very few injuries providing you aren't thick headed and push through when feeling the first signs that something isn't right. The trick is adding enough weight or repetitions to get 1-2 reps from failure on every single set. Failure is immanent when the movement slows to a crawl.
Great video Steve!
Thanks Jamie, I agree, see my “Older riders keeping fit” video, cheers
It's not about being first in the pack. It's the adventure of it all and finishing. No matter what place they might be. Great video.
Thanks mate, cheers
Great video, thanks for taking the time to put it together. I just started at 62 years old. I went to Sedlak Offroad School to get started, check out his videos on “drop heal” standing technique. Also Ryan Hughes’ videos on body position and “everything happens below the waist”. It was a huge surprise to me, how light and nimble a motorcycle can feel when controlling it from your feet and ankles and bending just at the waist. And how easy it is to ride long periods while standing when riding the way they suggest. Hope you find this helpful.
Excellent feedback thank you i will, cheers
Sedlak sounds like it might be in my area? Maybe we can organize a ride together?
At 61 I took an offroad riding course at MotoVentures in Temecula, CA area. It was a lot of fun to learn on small bikes. Since then I bought a Tenere 700 and found myself falling off a good number of times but the protective equipment kept the damage relatively minor.
I rode with a group and found myself being way too slow but I rather like taking in the scenery and enjoying the ride rather than being in a race to finish first.
My problem now is finding a group of slow riders to ride with that dont mind a leisurely pace.
My goal is to do some adventure camping type rides once I get more skill and confidence to ride a bit quicker when I want.
I can appreciate everything Steve told in his story and have similar experiences.
@@jb92563 yes, it would be cool to organize a ride although it is difficult to put any contact info in these comment sections without being deleted. This was good to watch Steve’s video again…I agree that having two bikes is the best way to start, a 300 or 350 dual sport bike and a larger Adventure bike.
Great video thanks , haven’t rode a bike since I was 16 but very interested in the dual purpose 500 Honda , I dont think I would be doing that much serious off road stuff to unbendy now at 64 but like not being stopped by a gravel road or a river crossing
Hey great to see you again and thanks for sharing your hard-won progress! Whippin around that e-bike like a kid!
Hope you have some nice riding soon! Greetings from SoCal.
Thanks Dave, cheers
A spot on video to make sense of why we ride. The old rooster has to know his limitations and fragility.
After road riding since 1968, i bought a KTM 640 Adventure and set of on an 11,000 km trip with 2 mates covering a mix of dirt back roads and minor black top throught north Qld, Borroloola, Darwin, Kununurra, Alice, Oodnadatta, the Flinders and back to Sydney. It was a great learning curve gaining new skills on easy dirt but over the six weeks of rifing every day i fell in love with the Ktm and kept it until recently racking up some 40k trouble free. To me it was the perfect size bike . 28lt fuel capacity. Vibed a bit being a single cyl chook chaser. But handled everything well.
Now at 72 i decided to do more long distance road riding with minimal dirt ( nothing to technical) so i have" maybe ?" a last bike hooray and am loving my KTM 1290 Super Adventure R.. What a Hooligan machine.
Well may be then a Honda 300. Cheers.
Thanks Frank, what an adventure, cheers
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Fantastic video I'm only 30 and didn't click away because I thought I should be able to learn something but I think every single point made in the video was valuable, very good editing too 10/10
Hey thank you I really appreciate your feedback. Cheers
Thank you for sharing your experiences with us! I rode dirt bikes as a teenager, but didn’t ride again till about 12 years ago. Being a lot more aware of my mortality now that I’m 58, I’m not very comfortable off road; that’s what I’m working on. 😉
Experience means more hours keep at it, cheers
I just turned 62 have been riding off road for over 20 years now and was a bit taken aback when you said old😂. I don't think I'm old and plan to be riding at 90.
I've been riding since I was 20 and like most grew up on road bikes. I've still got my 1150GSA but prefer to take the DR650 out when hitting the dirt. The 1150 is good on well made the dirt but the DR lets me go further afield. Had a KTM 950 too which was a great off road bike but reliability became an issue. I'm currently looking at adding another 250, not just because it's easier to ride but riding a loaded 250 through dirt backroads is very relaxing.
I see a lot of "old" blokes who are not real fit and riding bikes that are too big which sadly restricts where they can go and often causes a lot of grief. On the other side of the coin I see a lot of older blokes going smaller now and extending their riding life. Don't be too egotistical to downsize if it gives you more enjoyment. Cheers.
You’re not old, get back to me when you’re 67 like me! Cheers
@@StevesBikes01 😂😂. I often ride with an 81 year old. He would call you just a boy lol😂. He only rides tar but he's an inspiration riding his Honda 1980 CBX1000.
I was MX competition rider,now I m 60 yo and riding adv,so it was much easier for me .Sir you have right in every word you said
Great honesty help for novice adv riders. Start small until you have the skills, then go larger bike if it is needed.
Hi Steve, great advice for someone just getting into adventure riding. I started on a dr650 and progressed to Gs1200 after a couple of years. Totally agree, training, skills and confidence comes with practice and time. By the way how's the shoulder feeling? I need the same operation you had, and wondering what was your recovery time frame.
Cheers Peter
Thanks Peter. It took longer than I hoped at least 12 months. Get to the gym and lift some weights when you can, it helped me. Cheers
The 850 is more dificult to pick up than the 1200, ask me how I know!
Hi Steve, wonderful review. I'm 68 and have ridden road (HD) and dirt (Honda) all my life. Decided to seriously get into Adv. Weight and reliability were my top priorities. While waiting for the Honda CRF300 Rally for 6 months, I was introduced to the Suzuki DR650. Relatively light, great power and easy to work on, which is satisfying to me. 6.6 gallon tank and I can go anywhere. Colorado BDR goes over 11,000+ foot mountain passes no problem. No problem picking it up and if I crash it, so what. Only problem, where can I attach my ego? I phone 14 has satellite capabilities and Bob's your uncle (Did I use that right?). Why are adventure riders so old? Because we finally have the time to take off and do what we want to. If we are in good enough shape to still do it, good on ya, and proud of it. Starting out? Weight, realistic expectations and ego are the enemy. Yes, all my friends ride proper adv bikes (GS), but I go so much farther off road. The Himalayan is also a great option (lower seat, simple) but heavier. Riding to live is so much better from a mountain top or lakeside.
I agree 100% thanks for watching
Incredibly insightful. Well done. I think a multitude of riders of any age would be well served to watch this video.
Thanks Darryl, yes nearly 250,000 have already, it struck a cord with many
Seems like we all men riders go through the same fever, after riding street bikes for 20 years I decided to try off road, I couldn’t afford anything fancy, so I got me a KLR 650 with no special bear other than what I already had. I also couldn’t afford any safari training team, so here I go alone looking for dirt road and dunes to try my new bike, what an awakening. You need true riding skills to ride on the dirt, you need not to be afraid to laid down your bike frequently and be complete armored not to get hurt, be willing to scratch and trash your new shiny bike from the first outing, it takes a whole different spirit. It is not something you want to do alone, it is very scary to be out in the woods specially here we have black bears, out in the middle of no where, all by yourself, rough terrain, difficult to maneuver or out run a four legged animal, it is just not safe, and if you break a leg at 64 the healing process is not the same as when you 17. So, after all those realizations, I sold the KLR and got a Versys, back on the tarmac, familiar territory, life is great again.
Amazing to think you are out there with bears. In Australia there of plenty of things that can kill you but not if you are wearing ADV gear.
Ah...your opening words were spot on...here I am looking for an adventure bike after almost 25years hiatus from a sportbike.
Yeah go for it, cheers
I rode a BMW R100 GS for 28 years and just loved it. As I got older I slowly migrated to lighter bikes and every time I did I said to myself………why didn’t I do this years ago?
I sold my beloved Airhead (☹) and ride a DR650 now for all around use and DR 350 for more aggressive off road riding. 73+ now and still having a ball.
Good on you, that’s my plan too, cheers
77 and sold my KLR 650 yesterday. Got my 43 year old Yamaha XT 500 out of storage for my new ride. The KLR at 500 pounds is too heavy and tall for an old man. The old XT 500 is just perfect!
Excellent cheers
It is never to late to learn something new! Cheers for choosing offroad motorcycling three years ago. 👌
Thanks mate cheers
Excellent piece. I am 61, with many years road riding, but very little off road experience. About 5 years ago, my daughter had planned an off road experience day for my birthday. I was worried that, as a 5' 6' rider, I would struggle with the height of the bikes. This fear was made worse by 20+ years of riding cruisers, with very low seat heights. We ended up cancelling and I still regret this. About a year ago I downsized my 1100 cc cruiser for a Royal Enfield Scram and so have now got used to a higher bike.
Give off road a go, but try a small bike first, so you can touch the ground
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When I was young at 79, I decided racing sailboat is lake Erie was too dangerous. So, I learned how to ride motorcycles on a 2017 Yamaha TW200, got my license endorsement three months later riding a Harley Street 500. Bought my first bike, a 2022 CB500X that I dropped more than once, nothing serious. However, sadly I totaled it at end of September with 8,700 miles on a township gravel road in a 28 inch deep clay pit. In late October I bought a 2024 Transalp 750 and have clocked 600 miles on it, but alas only rode selective days, as a very wet & cold fall in northern Ohio and now winter is setting in. You age is not the barrier, if you can ride a bicycle you have balance, if you are reasonably fit you can ride adventure bike, unless your vertically challenged. I ride alone hitting gravel and dirt roads in Amish country, the weight of the bike is everything, a CB weighed 439 pounds, I could lift, the Transalp 750 is only 459 pounds with a center of gravity no higher than the CB500X. If, a big if, i was going to ride on single trail, forest logging, or fire break roads I wouldn't ride solo. But I'm not so young that I'm stupid, as it was said, a man has to know his limitations.
Hello I admire your spirit! I hope to be riding many more years too. Thanks for watching
Very good comments, relevant, appropriate and from experience. Good stuff 😊