The good guys massacring henchmen without mercy or discussion then stopping to monologue at the villain and bring them to justice in jail and letting them get away is the worst trope in media
"You can't kill me! You're a paragon of justice! You have to bring me to jail!" "Dude, I just killed like 20 people 5 minutes ago. I do not give a shit about justice. I just really hate you."
Great idea for a story. Book one would be a chosen one troupe then the chosen one takes over and their former companions have to try and take down their friend who turns out worse then the original bad guy.
To be fair, he’s not the only “chosen one” who has killed children. Edit: late, but considering how many different books/movies/games are listed in just replies to my post goes to show how overused the chosen one trope truly is. And for some reason they tend to kill children lmao
As I recall, the whole "You're the chosen one" thing was also an issue in Kung Fu Panda. Tai Lung's mind became pretty warped after he became overcome with ambition to be the next Dragon Warrior.
Problem is that Master Shifu was setting Tai Lung up for failure when he wasn't the one meant to CHOOSE a Chosen One. He should have just trained Tai Long like normal without filling his head with false promises. Like, literally Tai Long was beaten by Po in part because Po was literally chosen BECAUSE he is a panda. His body was what allowed him to not be stopped by Tai Longs most deadly technique and through training from Shifu that started WITH PO WANTING TO DO GOOD and not stopping just because Shifu didn't believe in him at the start. He kept at it even if he wasn't sure he was actually supposed to be the Dragon Warrior. Po literally had the personality of a Chosen One, Tai Long does not. The difference was simply Po was the ACTUAL Chosen One while Tai Long was thinking he could BECOME the Chosen One when in fact he was what the Dragon Warrior would have to defeat. Hell, Po was able to learn and defeat Tai Long, someone who trained his whole fucking life to be strong with only minimal training and innate ability do to his body being a counter to Tai Long AND his innate ability to do Kung-Fu. That's some Chosen One God Given Power bullshit right there. Oh, just remembered. Tai Long ACTUALLY COULD have done the pressure point thing to Po if his fingers were thinner like the needles Viper and Mantis were sticking into him that DID lock up his body when they hit the wrong points. But because Tai Long didn't do that, he lost.
@@RavenCloak13 last bit was more that he had too much fat so all his pressure points were in different places. Which tbh is a whole plot hole as outside of tigress he shouldnt know any of the others pressure points unless he studied other spices points in which case he should know a pandas pressure point. But guess the fat acted as a cushion or shield against pressure points.
Mentor: "You were the chosen one, you were meant to bring peace!" Chosen One: *Looking at the hundreds of bodies around him* "These guys look pretty f**king peaceful."
"Huh... Who could have thought telling someone they are the most special person in the world since they were young might result in an over-bloated ego and a god complex? How odd." - Many a mentor character after the events of the last book, probably
This is part of why I like Anakin Skywalker and how Star Wars handled the concept of a chosen one. Anakin's life is plagued by failures and regrets, and his character is full of traits that you don't expect to see in a chosen one. He's short-tempered, often resorts to violence to settle disputes, is extremely jealous and possessive, and is very utilitarian in how he achieves his goals. This leads to him betraying everything and everyone he values and becoming the right hand man of the "Dark Lord". In doing this he commits unforgivable crimes and helps his master destroy all semblances of freedom and hope throughout the galaxy. Ultimately, he does fulfill his prophecy, but only because of external factors like Luke that remind him that he still has something to fight for, and that there are still those out there that love him unconditionally. He takes the darkest and most winding path possible to reach his "destiny", and when he does it's at the cost of his own life, which he is more than happy to pay if it means saving his son. Qui-Gon Jinn: "Do you believe you are the Chosen One? Anakin Skywalker: "How can I know?" Qui-Gon Jinn: "I can tell you what I believe. I believe you will bring balance to the Force. That you will face your demons and save the universe." He wasn't wrong.
I absolutely love this idea and agree... problem being the sequels and current TV shows indicate that Anakin *didn't* actually kill the Emperor and save the galaxy, the galaxy and society overall aren't any better off than they were under the Empire (and in several ways are arguably worse), his kids turned out poorly, either abandoning their works or were driven out and didn't fulfill their potential either, and overall the following narratives almost completely undermine the entire structure of the original trilogy. I wish they'd have ended it at Return of the Jedi. :(
He was the chosen one to balance the force. If you got a few hundred jedi on one side and a handful of sith on the other the only way to balance it would be the death of all those jedi. I don't know why people didn't pick up on this.
@@craigh5236Really feels like the force is never balanced, just a swinging pendulum of very few jedi and the galaxy is ruled by sith, to sith are gone and the jedi order rebuilds.
@@snarkywriter1317 That's an issue with every story that decides to continue on after what was supposed to be the final showdown between good and evil. You have to manufacture a new conflict to justify the plot, and in doing so you destroy any sense of finality that had existed beforehand. The Gears of War series is a great example. The story wrapped up very nicely in Gears of War 3, but they still made a fourth and fifth entry that while not bad, don't really have a reason to exist. The Expanded Universe's post RoTJ timeline was similar in that way, but unlike the Sequel Trilogy it didn't throw away its original heroes and themes to justify the existence of new characters and conflicts. The heroes stayed true to their ideals in the face of new challenges, and continued to evolve with the times. Luke for example successfully refounded the Jedi Order and made it the defender of the free galaxy once more, while at the same time showing that it had moved past its rigid ideals by getting married. Han became a family man that stuck by his friends and the ideals of the New Republic. Leia was a respected politician, good mother, and powerful Jedi. The New Republic as a whole also wasn't nearly as incompetent as what it is in canon. What new writers have done to Mon Mothma in particular borders on character assassination in my opinion. Her and her government's decisions are almost too stupid to believe, and it's all too obvious that they were retroactively written simply to justify the existence of the First Order. Disney was so content with what they had received when they got Star Wars that writing something new was an afterthought. The EU varied greatly in quality but at least it was creative. The Sequel's and most of the supplemental works surrounding them are just derivative and boring. Dave Filoni and his crew are the only ones trying to do anything interesting, but at the end of the day they are still stuck working with the shoddy foundations that Disney put down.
@@BobertBobson the force tries to balance itself, but people kinda just fuck it up. light side defeated most of the sith, well now the sith that are left are really powerful. most of the jedi die and now the dark side rules. well, have this luke kid. honestly... people should just take the gray side of the force... not pure light, not pure dark. that's the true balance
This reminds me of the time when I ran a DND campaign where every member of the party was a chosen one, and so were a bunch of NPCs and a bunch of the Villains including the BBEG. Trust me, nothing is more hilarious than watching 4 characters hiding the fact that they have a prophecy about them and shit
Sounds pretty hilarious. They probably were all just waiting for you to set up their moment to shine. Turns out most "Prophecies" even in Fantasy are probably bs. And considering how flawed most gods are represented (don't know if the same in d&d) I wouldn't trust them to choose an item on a restaurant menu for me nevermind a chosen hero.
It's like the fantasy epic equivalent of Cave Johnson's "We're just gonna throw a bunch of science at the wall and see what sticks!" 9/10 of those Chose Ones are probably going to die a horrible, horrible death...but hey! Number 10 might make it!
This could be the groundwork for a Hades' kind of game. Where you play as a wise old master who has to train a hero to defeat the Dark Lord and the Hero might either die, give up or join the Dark Lord. Or slay the Dark Lord to become one himself. And with each failure, the Wise Old Master has to find a new student and figure out how to train the next one to succeed but also be good.
Honestly you grab some random teenager, take them on a journey that is kicked off with there parental figures dying horribly, make them into a child solder for your cause, encourage them to kill on mass, tell them there the most important and special person in the world, and give them phenomenal cosmic power. Do you really have any right to be surprised when they turn evil?
Hey- to be fair to the chosen one, the kid said that when she grew up she wanted to change the spelling of fantasy to phantasy, so she was arguably just as rotten as her father
This is why I appreciate mentor characters that actually teach philosophy and ethics to the 'chosen one' in an effective way. Being a hero takes more than great power and slaying the dark one
I love the His Dark Materials books because the main character Lyra has no idea she is a “chosen one” until so much later and receives no specifics as to what she is supposed to do. She just does what she thinks is right at any given moment.
And the adults are so passive about it by necessity, like "I taught this kid how to read this thingamabob, and now she's gotten a clan of witches on our side, overthrown a warrior bear kingdom, and traveled to another world. Neat." Almost the complete opposite of the typical adult role in these things.
I agree with Kelsier. If a group of people give themselves the right to enslave and massacre my people, I deserve to have the same right to massacre them in return. Justice. Retaliation. Revenge. Did you read the horrible sht commited against the Skaa? This BS about letting things go is also why I kinda hate the ending to the Wheel of Time. The 100 years of Peace BS. We're all just supposed to tolerate the existence of Religious savages, Mass Murderers and Slavers, because WHAT. because its their BELIEF!? Their CULTURE!? I dont care if the Children of Light and Seanchans joined the Final Battle, They ALL deserve to PAY for their attrocities! Same sht happened to the Grisha seried. PEACE. After ALL the tortures, and genocides, and WAR CRIMES commited against the civilians of Ravka, theyll just let Fjerda go in PEACE. Bull. Sh¡t. And Starsight, I absolutely wished, UNIRONICALLY, i wished the Empire of Man to just come in and exterminate all the aliens, filthy xeno scum.
In Steven Universe, Steven goes through all the Hero's Journey stuff as a child and, in the final season, as he's older, he has to deal internally with all the trauma of all the crap he went through and all the unrealistic expectations he had to meet. He breaks and, as a result, decides to leave home to discover himself again.
@@Junosensei Yes, but Steven Universe is a failure of a show. it has the start and the middle part of a jump sota down, but keeps falling on its face, yet continues to jump to a point were you crying telling it to please stop before it dies. It had good intentions, but maaan did Rebecca Sugar have some stuff she herself needs to work out, I never seen such horrible takes on how to deal with trauma presented in a "kidfreindly" manner.^ I would not recommend watching that show, and im not gonna rewatch it, its creepy how it presents horrible life lessons with a smile. Watching Steven Universe to the end is a trauma one needs therapy to deal with after.
@@WolframiteWraith - But he does see a doctor who, shocked at a few of his examples, explains how his mental and physical trauma throughout his childhood could have direct physical ramifications on his body.
Me everytime I walk into white run in skyrim.. "I shall bath in their blood!!" That wizard staff turned out to be a great investment. Definitely should have used that as a tax write off 😄
@John Smith yeah lol Daniel's tax agent: "alright, so I've got a LOTR Gandalf replica staff, 512 books, two lapel mics, several "package opening daggers" (whatever that means), "snortable" g fuel powder, 3 dozen volumes of manga including one where... [says the thing about that THING with that part of Berzerk (and we all know the thing I'm talking about but don't say it coz spoilers)]... umm.. is that everything?" Daniel (slightly embarrassed): "well... I've also detonated about 35 coffee mugs on camera." Agent: "35 coffee mugs. Okay, th--" (blinks) "wait... what??"
Maybe he should start widening his search 🤔 Trying to find different criteria. Like a woman, an elf, a dwarf, or a beastman. Someone who isn't straight. Heck, maybe if he had picked his neighbour's nephew things would have been fine.
I was with the "hero" for the first half, right up to when he was killing surrendering soldiers. Then I was on the sorcerer's side until right after the "hero" left. Then I realized the sorcerer was doing the choosing and realized the whole problem seems to be his fault. This is why the good king has to be ~really~ careful in selecting his court wizard.
Honestly thats such a cool concept. Imagine the mentor raising the student their whole life and putting everything into them to defeat the prophesied dark lord and it turns out that they *are* the dark lord, and the mentor has to defeat them. Imagine the emotional stakes-
Honestly one of my favourite twists on the chosen one trope, up there with "being the Chosen One brings only suffering to the MC" and "the Chosen One is not known until after the big bad is defeated, and it turns out to have been the least conventionally worthy party member" (shoutouts to Raimundo Pedrosa)
@@amyar123 In my experience it seems to be like Code: Lyoko or Kingdom for Keflings in that it's one of those things where you either don't remember it, you don't remember it until someone mentions it and then a ton of memories suddenly become unlocked, or you can't stop thinking about and mentioning it at every opportunity.
@@ArcCaravan I mean, Omi is ignorant, impulsive, and vain to an annoying degree. Clay is humble, patient, and strong, Kimiko is ambitious, intelligent, and agile, and Raimundo is crafty, charismatic, and selfish. In other words, they are of the archetypes of the fool, the monk, the alchemist, and the thief, respectively. Despite being the main character, Omi was second only to Raimundo in terms of how unworthy he is, and the only reason he is second is because Raimundo literally chose to bring about the end of the world for his own personal gain at the end of season 1.
This reminded me of the dedication for the book "Guards! Guards!", by the inestimable Sir Terry Pratchett: “They may be called the Palace Guard, the City Guard, or the Patrol. Whatever the name, their purpose in any work of heroic fantasy is identical: it is, round about Chapter Three (or ten minutes into the film) to rush into the room, attack the hero one at a time, and be slaughtered. No one ever asks them if they want to. This book is dedicated to those fine men.” ― Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
We now need the story of the people in charge of setting traps to thwart the hero. How peeved they must've been to hear that all of their hard work in movable stone temples that crumble upon a wrong step of a floor plate, didn't actually trap or kill the intruder of their land? They don't get enough credit or notice either.
Oh and lemme guess, despite slaying all of the guards the chosen one actually spared the dark lord himself because killing is wrong and mercy and stuff.
Oooooh... That would be neat. A story with two "chosen ones" described independently, raised to fight a dark lord, leading to a face off when they (and the audience) each realize their "dark lord" is the *other* "chosen one."
I love the implication that every "chosen one" he picks succeeds in taking down the dark lord, only to become a dark lord themself, thus continuing the endless cycle of tyranny.
Uhh.. I wasn't aware that the wise old men themselves were the ones that typically _chose_ a chosen one, though? (They usually just find or gaurd/guide them after something else actually did the choosing.😅) Alsoo...aren't they supposed to choose based on choices that the one has already been observed making? 🤔 I don't think it entirely counts as a chosen one if they just happen into it coincidentally or by being chosen purely at random. But I guess that's just me.🤷♀️ Lol
Why are all these wise old men not actually doing the job themselves anyways, considering they usually are still endlessly powerful, magical enough to not suffer from age-related health issues and infinitely more experienced than some random kid they picked off the street?
As a kid I didn't notice that in Link to the Past they establish that the guards are all being mind controlled by dark magics, but as an adult that always makes those confrontations so weird. They all even become good guys after Link stops the baddy. I guess we can probably assume that when he made his wish on the triforce it brought back any guards he killed while it was fixing everything else but still...
That ending killed me, lmao. Fun fact: height was frequently seen as "divine blessing" and a key factor for leadership in tribal West Semitic society. The echo of this is seen in the portrait of Israel's first king, Saul, who was chosen by the people in part because of his height (a full head above the rest). It was so prominent that their god, in choosing Saul's replacement, explicitly told them to disregard Eliab's height (in favor of the now famous brother, David). David thus became the "chosen one" intentionally set against the trope. (Source: Joel Baden's _The Historical David: The Real Life of an Invented Hero,_ ch.1)
Now that you metion it, Alfieri made a play called Saul where he doesn't rely on anyone because he thinks he is the chosen one. But god took this power fron him and gave it to David. So he, after lots of stuff, looses everything because he can't relay on anyone.
A youtuber designed and created Moraine's blue dress from Tar Valon entirely from scratch and even described part of the sewing in the Old Tongue. I thought it was really cool and impressive, but her comment section barely has any WoT fans so I thought I'd share it here for anyone who would be interested in it. The video is called "Making Moiraine's Dress Using Only Third Age Sewing Methods | The Wheel of Time" by Bernadette Banner.
Love her channel! Hope more fans check it out. She's currently working on Moraine's accessories (see her Instagram) because she just can't get over it!
You know, when your essentially the guiding sage in a story maybe combat shouldn't every lesson. Toss in a few ethics and morals, not every chosen one born in a humble poor village is morally allied to saving everyone you care about.
I blame the master. He could have conveyed a lot of this information about the guards *before* but he just let the poor kid go into hostile territory uninformed and having to figure it out on his own? What a jerk!😤
One too many quests sending the kid to fetch random objects, deal with insane chain quests, and being blamed for not having defeated something nobody told them about... Because said information was locked behind another fetch quest. Maybe it is less "chosen one" and more "idiotic mentor". After all what other settings have allies immediately try killing the hero and then laugh it off and join them after failing to kill them?
Yeeeeah, I’ve seen a lot of manhwa/manga/anime do various spins on this concept, lol. The main plot of that weird assassin isekai show that just finished airing is that the main character needs to kill the Hero after they kill the big bad, for exactly this reason. It is also a bit of a trope in certain subgenres that the good-guy-king always betrays the Hero after the big bad is slain, because the Hero is too powerful and too much of a threat to his position/the future stability of the world. It’s a trope I’m rather fond of, at least provided it isn’t *too* edgy, ahaha.
My favorite chosen one story came from the game Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. In it we are told the story of a special Chosen One. The force was strong with him. She had the Fate to change the entire galaxy. And him knowing this went to his head. When he was captured by the dark lord of the Sith he just kept going on and on about he's so special etc etc and the dark lord just couldn't take it anymore so he threw him down a trash chute which resulted in him getting stuck which caused a blockage that resulted in one problem after another that eventually led to the flagship blowing up and taking out several ships with it. The fate of the entire galaxy was altered. The moral of the story is that sometimes being Chosen One isn't all it's cracked up to be. Just because you have a great Destiny doesn't mean you will live long enough to enjoy it.
I think there was a novel that addressed something like this, it was called “There and Never, Ever Back Again”. Possibly Conversely, the Disney cartoon the Owl House told us that everyone wants to be a chosen one, but if we just waited around to actually be chosen, we’d all die waiting, which is why you have to chose yourself. (Which is great, but I guess that does make me wonder and seriously question if the Owl House and this video just invalidates every chosen one story that’s ever been told in the history of storytelling, and if it can even be a good or interesting thing in stories at all anymore… kinda depressing in a way.)
@@justforplaylists but isn’t it kinda harmful to think or believe that because of what was shown in this video? If you know you’re a chosen one, then you might start doing just what he did. And no one is incorruptible if given the right influence, wether they’re chosen or not. Maybe it’s just better to not be chosen because then you don’t have the temptation to be this way. Which still doesn’t solve the problem of chosen one stories I suppose…
@@justforplaylists guess that still doesn’t mean that they’re entirely good, just that they have the power they can use. And even if they earn it, they can still either pursue it for bad ends or be corrupted by the power they have.
Not really. This video is just parody of badly written stories that don't deal with what most Chosen One stories deal with. That is, the Chosen One is someone that wouldn't do this because they were chosen based on who they would be and given power to deal with the problem. The ones that make a mistake of choosing someone is either a non-omniscient God, random mentor dudes that are mortal and thus fallible, or this wasn't actually a mistake and the Gods either approve of what is being done or don't care about the small fries and only care about the big picture. Also that Owl House quote has no baring here. If your choosing to do something, your not chosen by default. Your choosing to do good, not being chosen to.
@@RavenCloak13 and yet the chosen one trope is still way too overused, and the fact of the matter is that no matter what, they still have the power and ability to do something like that, even if they’re “pure of heart” and for that matter, being pure of heart is always going to be different for everyone in every culture and every individual has a different way in which they’re pure. And if the chosen one has all this power and no one to hold them back, then they could just do as bad as the villain did. Maybe their friends can help, but if they lose them, there’s nothing stopping the chosen one from turning bad themselves, chosen by the gods or not. It happened in Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 as well.
@@jacobshore5115 No, not really. It's pretty uncommon now unless your looking at shitty fanfics. Also, your changing the context. If they are the Chosen One hero type, they are not going to turn evil. PERIOD. They are the Chosen One. Why would they become evil? Your basically have to change the meaning of the term which people do to get these "Well this is what happens when your a Chosen One" without ACTUALLY going over the makings of molding someone into a good upstanding person and thinking just because someone died they were closed to even though most of these stories START with the Chosen One losing everything that they would become magically evil. Especially in these settings where war and death is expected. This also only really applies to people making decisions without omniscient powers for choosing someone wrong. Now, lets go back to the FIRST game of Castlevania: Lords of Shadows... WHERE YOU WERE MANIPULATED AND MADE THE CHOSEN ONE BY THE FUCKING BAD GUY AND LITERALLY DID BECOME DRACULA. And then you had the fact that in 2, the only way he was able to fix things is because... well it said he'd become Dracula, not he couldn't STOP being Dracula. Especially since it gives you the ability to end this fate and destroy the thing causing the problems for the MC because a physical object exist to end his suffering.
Seems to me, in this story, the mage isn't telling the "chosen One" his whole plan i.e. let the daughter be raised by others, expect the guards to surrender willingly, etc.
This is pretty much what most DMs want to say to their players at the end of your typical campaign. It's actually pretty common for me to use previous player characters as the big bad for newer campaigns. Some players get surprised by this, until i describe the trajectory their murder hoboing and domineering actually set their character on.
I really like the idea that some of the Dark Lord's foot soldiers turn rogue and let the hero pass, only to lay a trap and backstab him because they are actually loyal to the Dark Lord. I do not recall having seen that in a story.
Very funny! Usually don't love sit/talk UA-camrs doing skits but you totally pulled it off. With all your knowledge of the genre you hit so many trope beats.
I feel like a couple of the problems could've been fixed by telling him about the soilders being forced to serve the evil guy and that the daughter could be saved
@@ArcCaravan Hey, they immediately surrender once the hero came. And if neighbor nephew is a good example, the Dark Lord made "my minion" the only job available. Did they had other options? I dunno, the skit didn't show and the youtuber maybe didn't thought so far
@@foisopracurtir6389 We don't know what they did before giving up to save their own lives. They could have been opportunists who would have joined the next dark lord.
that little mid part actually seems like a good idea for like a story imagine a past hero who saw himself as the only fit ruler, but in turn became just as bad as the one he had slain.
Imagine: a story beginning with a 'chosen one' who had great intends but is ruling as a dictator because he thinks he serves the greater good, but the main characters, who have been living under his tirrany and don't know the backstory, overth.... wait god damnit brandon...
even the overused idea of choosen one can be interesting if the main character has to decide if he wants to be the choosen one for the "good" side or of the "evil" side (or how you characterize both sides)
Ah yes, they are all truly destined to become the next dark lord and make an evil child who will be halfway through growing up in the time the next chosen one is trained, has their ancient relic from the tomb of a previous chosen one and is unleashed. The wizard only becomes wise from having experience, after all.
I love how we forget if we keep making a traumatized teen the chosen one we might live to regret it. I love to see one book where it's the bottom of the barrel kind of person he was chosen not because he was born great or had a destiny but because they have no one else like this man was the very bottom of there list and everyone that supposedly were the chosen one either turned or died. And he also has a bunch of bottom of the barrel party. That would be a fun read
I do like with a recent book series I’ve finished that the main character wasn’t the chosen one but it’s his kids that are so the later part of the books was him pretty much making sure his kids’ journey was ready
You know no idea how many Isekai novels have a protagonist whose job is to kill the Hero because the Hero inevitably becomes a worse problem than the demon lord
@@frodoro7108 Sekai Saikou no Ansatsusha, Isekai Kizoku ni Tensei Suru - this one is the standard one, god sends assassin to kill the hero after the hero kills the demon lord. Nidome no Jinsei wo Isekai de - sent to defeat the hero (not the main plot) because the hero wasn't a properly sanctioned one Isekai desu ga Mamono Saibai - sent to correct the heroes' mistake of killing too much but doesn't contront them physically There is another whose name I forget but the premise is that the protagonist was sent by the goddess to steal away the harem of the various heroes (who are causing mayhem) which would make them lose their hero status so that she could kill them Yondome wa Iyana Shi Zokusei Majutsushi - not the protagonist's job but the former hero has cause the world to stagnate Shokei Sareta Kenja wa Lich ni Tensei Shite Shinryaku Sensou wo Hajimaru - the protagonist is actually the former hero that became the new demon lord. Actually the above example, where a betrayed hero takes revenge on the other heroes, might be more common than the one I mentioned before Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi - is an exmaple of the above plot of betrayed hero
Also not teaching the kid to be an assassin who would just go in, kill the big boss and get out. Having him actually try and fight things is the issue here. Just kill the problem quickly with your Godlike power, liberate the people and get out. Also not giving them better morale guidance or instilling the whole "Yeah, the Gods will probably send someone after you if you try and become a great evil yourself so don't get cocky."
To be fair, anyone who supports the institutions that maintain and enforce the power and authority of an evil system are sort of complicit in it when you think about it.
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It's pretty boring, the chosen one story.
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Basically dishonored.
It’s ok if its soldiers…
*Until you remember soldiers are people…*
I just realized you play isekai dnd
"He's here! We're saved!"
"Saved? Oh, I wouldn't say that. More like under new management."
There is a spark of evil in all of us.
Nice megamind reference.
Luckily, I have my copper sphere to save me!
That reminds me of Steel heart so much. That and Megamind.
That feels very Reigen from Mob Psycho 101 in the final arc of season 1. It's one of the greatest moments in the show thus far.
The good guys massacring henchmen without mercy or discussion then stopping to monologue at the villain and bring them to justice in jail and letting them get away is the worst trope in media
Good thing half my characters are former or still henchmen. It's actually pretty good basis for building characters.
If the henchmen attack me first I'm killing them plain and simple. Not really a fan of the batman arrest them so they can break out again trope.
I'm just here to slaughter the bad guy, not because he's the bad guy. But because he's mildy inconvenianced me. It's just self defense really.
I agree if you're going to kill the henchmen kill the boss who forced them to do what they did
"You can't kill me! You're a paragon of justice! You have to bring me to jail!"
"Dude, I just killed like 20 people 5 minutes ago. I do not give a shit about justice. I just really hate you."
I like the idea of the main character being the chosen one but for evil instead of good
Do you know any fantasy books like that?
Dark One by Brandon Sanderson!
Great idea for a story. Book one would be a chosen one troupe then the chosen one takes over and their former companions have to try and take down their friend who turns out worse then the original bad guy.
@@patrickwehbe8020 *D U N E*
Uhhhh. Starwars?
"They said pure...they never said pure good" - Harm.
"The its can not stand in the way of Harms Destiny"
Some people try to overcome their demons.... Harm embraces them!
DBZ.
"They said only someone with a Pure heart could become a Super Sayajin!"
Vegeta: "My heart is pure....Pure Evil"
@@mermidion7552
"*Pure unadulterated badass"
@@Naija_Ninja heck yeah!
To be fair, he’s not the only “chosen one” who has killed children.
Edit: late, but considering how many different books/movies/games are listed in just replies to my post goes to show how overused the chosen one trope truly is. And for some reason they tend to kill children lmao
Are you talking about hellboy? He is destined to do so.
master skywalker, there are too many of them, what are we going to do?
Master skywalker …
YounglingSlayer9000
“When I learned humanity still existed beyond the walls, I was so disappointed.”
And this was when he realized that the real dark lord was the student we trained along the way
Eren Attack on titans
Broken Empire trilogy.
@@hawk66100 I just finished book 1, thanks
Any more books like this ?
Anakin Skywalker
As I recall, the whole "You're the chosen one" thing was also an issue in Kung Fu Panda. Tai Lung's mind became pretty warped after he became overcome with ambition to be the next Dragon Warrior.
the weight of expectations is a fickle thing
@@alphanoodle1877 fame is a fickly thing, harry
Problem is that Master Shifu was setting Tai Lung up for failure when he wasn't the one meant to CHOOSE a Chosen One. He should have just trained Tai Long like normal without filling his head with false promises. Like, literally Tai Long was beaten by Po in part because Po was literally chosen BECAUSE he is a panda. His body was what allowed him to not be stopped by Tai Longs most deadly technique and through training from Shifu that started WITH PO WANTING TO DO GOOD and not stopping just because Shifu didn't believe in him at the start. He kept at it even if he wasn't sure he was actually supposed to be the Dragon Warrior. Po literally had the personality of a Chosen One, Tai Long does not.
The difference was simply Po was the ACTUAL Chosen One while Tai Long was thinking he could BECOME the Chosen One when in fact he was what the Dragon Warrior would have to defeat.
Hell, Po was able to learn and defeat Tai Long, someone who trained his whole fucking life to be strong with only minimal training and innate ability do to his body being a counter to Tai Long AND his innate ability to do Kung-Fu. That's some Chosen One God Given Power bullshit right there.
Oh, just remembered. Tai Long ACTUALLY COULD have done the pressure point thing to Po if his fingers were thinner like the needles Viper and Mantis were sticking into him that DID lock up his body when they hit the wrong points. But because Tai Long didn't do that, he lost.
See he let the power go to his head, and thought of using it to rule, instead of trying to use it to beat up bullies :/
@@RavenCloak13 last bit was more that he had too much fat so all his pressure points were in different places. Which tbh is a whole plot hole as outside of tigress he shouldnt know any of the others pressure points unless he studied other spices points in which case he should know a pandas pressure point. But guess the fat acted as a cushion or shield against pressure points.
Mentor: "You were the chosen one, you were meant to bring peace!"
Chosen One: *Looking at the hundreds of bodies around him* "These guys look pretty f**king peaceful."
Holy shit, that is easily one of the coldest, most badass lines I have ever heard! Great job on that one.
@@gregoryo4417 Wish I could take credit, I got it from somewhere else; can't remember where.
@@SH-qs7ee Thanks for posting it anyways, it is still a great reference nonetheless.
"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE!"
"Huh... Who could have thought telling someone they are the most special person in the world since they were young might result in an over-bloated ego and a god complex? How odd."
- Many a mentor character after the events of the last book, probably
The trick is.... you're not _really_ supposed to tell them.😅👀🙃 🤣🤣🤣
Isn’t that what they said about itachi
I think this is why when there is a chosen one they are not confident.
-Frank Herbert, God Emperor of Dune
When you realize an entire generation or two has been raised in that exact way...
the throwaway line of "your tall, that's actually really important" fucking slayed me.
@Day *weeps in Willow, laughs in Tall Girl*
Well humans tend to follow taller people
Yup, immediately went to Rand
@@blackouthorus1519 Yeah, because they are good to make a path thru a crowded area.
@@QueenOfDarknes5 Also good when crossing rivers
This is part of why I like Anakin Skywalker and how Star Wars handled the concept of a chosen one. Anakin's life is plagued by failures and regrets, and his character is full of traits that you don't expect to see in a chosen one. He's short-tempered, often resorts to violence to settle disputes, is extremely jealous and possessive, and is very utilitarian in how he achieves his goals. This leads to him betraying everything and everyone he values and becoming the right hand man of the "Dark Lord". In doing this he commits unforgivable crimes and helps his master destroy all semblances of freedom and hope throughout the galaxy. Ultimately, he does fulfill his prophecy, but only because of external factors like Luke that remind him that he still has something to fight for, and that there are still those out there that love him unconditionally. He takes the darkest and most winding path possible to reach his "destiny", and when he does it's at the cost of his own life, which he is more than happy to pay if it means saving his son.
Qui-Gon Jinn: "Do you believe you are the Chosen One?
Anakin Skywalker: "How can I know?"
Qui-Gon Jinn: "I can tell you what I believe. I believe you will bring balance to the Force. That you will face your demons and save the universe."
He wasn't wrong.
I absolutely love this idea and agree... problem being the sequels and current TV shows indicate that Anakin *didn't* actually kill the Emperor and save the galaxy, the galaxy and society overall aren't any better off than they were under the Empire (and in several ways are arguably worse), his kids turned out poorly, either abandoning their works or were driven out and didn't fulfill their potential either, and overall the following narratives almost completely undermine the entire structure of the original trilogy.
I wish they'd have ended it at Return of the Jedi. :(
He was the chosen one to balance the force. If you got a few hundred jedi on one side and a handful of sith on the other the only way to balance it would be the death of all those jedi. I don't know why people didn't pick up on this.
@@craigh5236Really feels like the force is never balanced, just a swinging pendulum of very few jedi and the galaxy is ruled by sith, to sith are gone and the jedi order rebuilds.
@@snarkywriter1317 That's an issue with every story that decides to continue on after what was supposed to be the final showdown between good and evil. You have to manufacture a new conflict to justify the plot, and in doing so you destroy any sense of finality that had existed beforehand. The Gears of War series is a great example. The story wrapped up very nicely in Gears of War 3, but they still made a fourth and fifth entry that while not bad, don't really have a reason to exist. The Expanded Universe's post RoTJ timeline was similar in that way, but unlike the Sequel Trilogy it didn't throw away its original heroes and themes to justify the existence of new characters and conflicts. The heroes stayed true to their ideals in the face of new challenges, and continued to evolve with the times. Luke for example successfully refounded the Jedi Order and made it the defender of the free galaxy once more, while at the same time showing that it had moved past its rigid ideals by getting married. Han became a family man that stuck by his friends and the ideals of the New Republic. Leia was a respected politician, good mother, and powerful Jedi. The New Republic as a whole also wasn't nearly as incompetent as what it is in canon. What new writers have done to Mon Mothma in particular borders on character assassination in my opinion. Her and her government's decisions are almost too stupid to believe, and it's all too obvious that they were retroactively written simply to justify the existence of the First Order. Disney was so content with what they had received when they got Star Wars that writing something new was an afterthought. The EU varied greatly in quality but at least it was creative. The Sequel's and most of the supplemental works surrounding them are just derivative and boring. Dave Filoni and his crew are the only ones trying to do anything interesting, but at the end of the day they are still stuck working with the shoddy foundations that Disney put down.
@@BobertBobson the force tries to balance itself, but people kinda just fuck it up.
light side defeated most of the sith, well now the sith that are left are really powerful.
most of the jedi die and now the dark side rules. well, have this luke kid.
honestly... people should just take the gray side of the force... not pure light, not pure dark. that's the true balance
This reminds me of the time when I ran a DND campaign where every member of the party was a chosen one, and so were a bunch of NPCs and a bunch of the Villains including the BBEG.
Trust me, nothing is more hilarious than watching 4 characters hiding the fact that they have a prophecy about them and shit
Sounds pretty hilarious. They probably were all just waiting for you to set up their moment to shine. Turns out most "Prophecies" even in Fantasy are probably bs. And considering how flawed most gods are represented (don't know if the same in d&d) I wouldn't trust them to choose an item on a restaurant menu for me nevermind a chosen hero.
That is evil and hilarious.
It's like the fantasy epic equivalent of Cave Johnson's "We're just gonna throw a bunch of science at the wall and see what sticks!"
9/10 of those Chose Ones are probably going to die a horrible, horrible death...but hey! Number 10 might make it!
this is so freaking evil lmaoo
@@TheMightyDM I couldn't have said it better myself.
The moment you realize that the Wise Old Man became wise because he has made a lot of mistakes to learn from
BEST comment!. ^-^
Did he learn though?
-Thor face
True
@@confusedwhale
Well he doesn't have a long beard yet so there's time
This could be the groundwork for a Hades' kind of game. Where you play as a wise old master who has to train a hero to defeat the Dark Lord and the Hero might either die, give up or join the Dark Lord. Or slay the Dark Lord to become one himself. And with each failure, the Wise Old Master has to find a new student and figure out how to train the next one to succeed but also be good.
Honestly you grab some random teenager, take them on a journey that is kicked off with there parental figures dying horribly, make them into a child solder for your cause, encourage them to kill on mass, tell them there the most important and special person in the world, and give them phenomenal cosmic power. Do you really have any right to be surprised when they turn evil?
Hey- to be fair to the chosen one, the kid said that when she grew up she wanted to change the spelling of fantasy to phantasy, so she was arguably just as rotten as her father
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"arguably"
@Day 😅
Good, he would hav been worse than her father!
@Day I think phantasy might actually be the older spelling coming back rather than a new spelling.
This is why I appreciate mentor characters that actually teach philosophy and ethics to the 'chosen one' in an effective way. Being a hero takes more than great power and slaying the dark one
See Uncle Ben in Spider-Man as an example :D
@@notreallyhere67 and oromis in eragon
@@notreallyhere67 *"Green m&m pus-"*
Being tall is really important
I love the His Dark Materials books because the main character Lyra has no idea she is a “chosen one” until so much later and receives no specifics as to what she is supposed to do. She just does what she thinks is right at any given moment.
And the people that know the prophesy are very careful not to reveal it to her, lest her awareness jeopardize the prophesy
And the adults are so passive about it by necessity, like "I taught this kid how to read this thingamabob, and now she's gotten a clan of witches on our side, overthrown a warrior bear kingdom, and traveled to another world. Neat." Almost the complete opposite of the typical adult role in these things.
shouldnt have read the comment
Is this the one with the demon pets??
@@kazemizu Lol yes and no. The “daemons” are a persons soul in animal form.
I like how this guy’s logic towards guards is just Kelsier’s logic
Who's Kelsier?
@@dragonfell5078 one of the main characters in the mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson
I agree with Kelsier.
If a group of people give themselves the right to enslave and massacre my people, I deserve to have the same right to massacre them in return.
Justice. Retaliation. Revenge.
Did you read the horrible sht commited against the Skaa?
This BS about letting things go is also why I kinda hate the ending to the Wheel of Time. The 100 years of Peace BS. We're all just supposed to tolerate the existence of Religious savages, Mass Murderers and Slavers, because WHAT.
because its their BELIEF!?
Their CULTURE!?
I dont care if the Children of Light and Seanchans joined the Final Battle,
They ALL deserve to PAY for their attrocities!
Same sht happened to the Grisha seried.
PEACE. After ALL the tortures, and genocides, and WAR CRIMES commited against the civilians of Ravka,
theyll just let Fjerda go in PEACE.
Bull. Sh¡t.
And Starsight, I absolutely wished, UNIRONICALLY, i wished the Empire of Man to just come in and exterminate all the aliens, filthy xeno scum.
@@Trustworthy_McLegitimate careful dude. You don’t want to cut yourself on your edge
@@Drmcsmrst wont slip and cut myself when stepping on you DOORMATS. theres so many of you, you carpet the entire world.
Skit request: Therapy session where the therapist is overwhelmed by all the messed up trauma that happens to fantasy heroes.
You might enjoy The Bright Sessions, it's a podcast about a therapist helping people with superpowers
In Steven Universe, Steven goes through all the Hero's Journey stuff as a child and, in the final season, as he's older, he has to deal internally with all the trauma of all the crap he went through and all the unrealistic expectations he had to meet. He breaks and, as a result, decides to leave home to discover himself again.
@@Junosensei Steven Universe completely skips over the therapy though. We are just told that he's been going to one at the end.
@@Junosensei Yes, but Steven Universe is a failure of a show. it has the start and the middle part of a jump sota down, but keeps falling on its face, yet continues to jump to a point were you crying telling it to please stop before it dies.
It had good intentions, but maaan did Rebecca Sugar have some stuff she herself needs to work out, I never seen such horrible takes on how to deal with trauma presented in a "kidfreindly" manner.^
I would not recommend watching that show, and im not gonna rewatch it, its creepy how it presents horrible life lessons with a smile.
Watching Steven Universe to the end is a trauma one needs therapy to deal with after.
@@WolframiteWraith - But he does see a doctor who, shocked at a few of his examples, explains how his mental and physical trauma throughout his childhood could have direct physical ramifications on his body.
Me everytime I walk into white run in skyrim.. "I shall bath in their blood!!"
That wizard staff turned out to be a great investment. Definitely should have used that as a tax write off 😄
@John Smith yeah lol
Daniel's tax agent: "alright, so I've got a LOTR Gandalf replica staff, 512 books, two lapel mics, several "package opening daggers" (whatever that means), "snortable" g fuel powder, 3 dozen volumes of manga including one where... [says the thing about that THING with that part of Berzerk (and we all know the thing I'm talking about but don't say it coz spoilers)]... umm.. is that everything?"
Daniel (slightly embarrassed): "well... I've also detonated about 35 coffee mugs on camera."
Agent: "35 coffee mugs. Okay, th--" (blinks) "wait... what??"
Listen those kids up in Dragon Reach just needed to die, I get it.
I'm sure he'll find one that won't become a power-hungry, bloodthirsty tyrant eventually. Practice makes perfect, and all that
Maybe he should start widening his search 🤔 Trying to find different criteria. Like a woman, an elf, a dwarf, or a beastman. Someone who isn't straight. Heck, maybe if he had picked his neighbour's nephew things would have been fine.
It's just chosen ones, all the way down
@@Ikajo What are the odds they'd go evil due to prejudice?
@@ArcCaravan The same as anyone else. In fact, someone facing prejudice is less likely to be corrupted by power.
@@Ikajo Honestly considering how this guy seems to pick his chosen ones, I could see them seeking revenge.
I was with the "hero" for the first half, right up to when he was killing surrendering soldiers. Then I was on the sorcerer's side until right after the "hero" left. Then I realized the sorcerer was doing the choosing and realized the whole problem seems to be his fault.
This is why the good king has to be ~really~ careful in selecting his court wizard.
Honestly thats such a cool concept. Imagine the mentor raising the student their whole life and putting everything into them to defeat the prophesied dark lord and it turns out that they *are* the dark lord, and the mentor has to defeat them. Imagine the emotional stakes-
Star Wars.
@@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks YES
Ha I was about to say Obi-Wan and Anakin!
Kung fu panda. Also garou from one punch man.
Honestly one of my favourite twists on the chosen one trope, up there with "being the Chosen One brings only suffering to the MC" and "the Chosen One is not known until after the big bad is defeated, and it turns out to have been the least conventionally worthy party member" (shoutouts to Raimundo Pedrosa)
You're like the ONLY other person I know of who remembers Shaolin Showdown, let alone finished it. Kudos :)
@@amyar123 In my experience it seems to be like Code: Lyoko or Kingdom for Keflings in that it's one of those things where you either don't remember it, you don't remember it until someone mentions it and then a ton of memories suddenly become unlocked, or you can't stop thinking about and mentioning it at every opportunity.
You would probably like "The Legend of Sun Knight"
You could argue anyone but Omi wasn't conventionally worthy.
@@ArcCaravan I mean, Omi is ignorant, impulsive, and vain to an annoying degree. Clay is humble, patient, and strong, Kimiko is ambitious, intelligent, and agile, and Raimundo is crafty, charismatic, and selfish. In other words, they are of the archetypes of the fool, the monk, the alchemist, and the thief, respectively. Despite being the main character, Omi was second only to Raimundo in terms of how unworthy he is, and the only reason he is second is because Raimundo literally chose to bring about the end of the world for his own personal gain at the end of season 1.
This reminded me of the dedication for the book "Guards! Guards!", by the inestimable Sir Terry Pratchett:
“They may be called the Palace Guard, the City Guard, or the Patrol. Whatever the name, their purpose in any work of heroic fantasy is identical: it is, round about Chapter Three (or ten minutes into the film) to rush into the room, attack the hero one at a time, and be slaughtered. No one ever asks them if they want to.
This book is dedicated to those fine men.”
― Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
I like that kind of cynical humor.
We now need the story of the people in charge of setting traps to thwart the hero. How peeved they must've been to hear that all of their hard work in movable stone temples that crumble upon a wrong step of a floor plate, didn't actually trap or kill the intruder of their land? They don't get enough credit or notice either.
Oh and lemme guess, despite slaying all of the guards the chosen one actually spared the dark lord himself because killing is wrong and mercy and stuff.
From the way the video went, no.
Oooooh... That would be neat. A story with two "chosen ones" described independently, raised to fight a dark lord, leading to a face off when they (and the audience) each realize their "dark lord" is the *other* "chosen one."
That would be very fun to read!
Well this sketch is definitely relevant for some of the series Daniel is currently reading
HAI YOOOO
@@kaijublue1151 FORCES!!!!!!
"Seven in a row - why does this keep happening?" Nope, can't be the methodology. Best to keep trying until it turns out right. 😆
I love the implication that every "chosen one" he picks succeeds in taking down the dark lord, only to become a dark lord themself, thus continuing the endless cycle of tyranny.
Just remember, Wise Old Men in worlds suffering beneath a Dark Lord: you can choose your Chosen One, but you can't choose their choices.
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That is actually good advice.
Uhh.. I wasn't aware that the wise old men themselves were the ones that typically _chose_ a chosen one, though? (They usually just find or gaurd/guide them after something else actually did the choosing.😅) Alsoo...aren't they supposed to choose based on choices that the one has already been observed making? 🤔 I don't think it entirely counts as a chosen one if they just happen into it coincidentally or by being chosen purely at random. But I guess that's just me.🤷♀️ Lol
Why are all these wise old men not actually doing the job themselves anyways, considering they usually are still endlessly powerful, magical enough to not suffer from age-related health issues and infinitely more experienced than some random kid they picked off the street?
I always love these sketches, Daniel
'Bathing is kind of a loaded word...'
Lmao that one got me, great sketch I'm not even done with it yet 🤣
As a kid I didn't notice that in Link to the Past they establish that the guards are all being mind controlled by dark magics, but as an adult that always makes those confrontations so weird. They all even become good guys after Link stops the baddy. I guess we can probably assume that when he made his wish on the triforce it brought back any guards he killed while it was fixing everything else but still...
That ending killed me, lmao. Fun fact: height was frequently seen as "divine blessing" and a key factor for leadership in tribal West Semitic society. The echo of this is seen in the portrait of Israel's first king, Saul, who was chosen by the people in part because of his height (a full head above the rest). It was so prominent that their god, in choosing Saul's replacement, explicitly told them to disregard Eliab's height (in favor of the now famous brother, David). David thus became the "chosen one" intentionally set against the trope. (Source: Joel Baden's _The Historical David: The Real Life of an Invented Hero,_ ch.1)
Now that you metion it, Alfieri made a play called Saul where he doesn't rely on anyone because he thinks he is the chosen one. But god took this power fron him and gave it to David. So he, after lots of stuff, looses everything because he can't relay on anyone.
@@lm2668 Interesting-I hadn't yet heard of the play. Thanks for sharing!
All my brain went to was, "MY TALLEST!"
@@AurorXZ it's an italian playwright
"You're tall, that's really important" Good line, good line.
A youtuber designed and created Moraine's blue dress from Tar Valon entirely from scratch and even described part of the sewing in the Old Tongue. I thought it was really cool and impressive, but her comment section barely has any WoT fans so I thought I'd share it here for anyone who would be interested in it.
The video is called "Making Moiraine's Dress Using Only Third Age Sewing Methods | The Wheel of Time" by
Bernadette Banner.
If only the show around it warranted such dedication.
Bernadette is fantastic!
I wife loves her channel, so I saw those videos. She did a very good job.
That's a great video. I never knew how much work went into making costumes like that.
Love her channel! Hope more fans check it out. She's currently working on Moraine's accessories (see her Instagram) because she just can't get over it!
I love a line from shadow of the conqueror "Bad things happen when revolutionaries get into politics"
Also, I really like the hero's companions revealing themselves being worse than the apparent villain. Oh, they are not incompetent just malicious.
You know, when your essentially the guiding sage in a story maybe combat shouldn't every lesson.
Toss in a few ethics and morals, not every chosen one born in a humble poor village is morally allied to saving everyone you care about.
I blame the master. He could have conveyed a lot of this information about the guards *before* but he just let the poor kid go into hostile territory uninformed and having to figure it out on his own? What a jerk!😤
One too many quests sending the kid to fetch random objects, deal with insane chain quests, and being blamed for not having defeated something nobody told them about... Because said information was locked behind another fetch quest.
Maybe it is less "chosen one" and more "idiotic mentor".
After all what other settings have allies immediately try killing the hero and then laugh it off and join them after failing to kill them?
Kelsier's not a chosen one, but the guards bit really made me think about him.
I do know the backstory of the dark ruler but before that I projected him to go through this
"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of nice."
Yeeeeah, I’ve seen a lot of manhwa/manga/anime do various spins on this concept, lol. The main plot of that weird assassin isekai show that just finished airing is that the main character needs to kill the Hero after they kill the big bad, for exactly this reason.
It is also a bit of a trope in certain subgenres that the good-guy-king always betrays the Hero after the big bad is slain, because the Hero is too powerful and too much of a threat to his position/the future stability of the world. It’s a trope I’m rather fond of, at least provided it isn’t *too* edgy, ahaha.
My favorite chosen one story came from the game Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. In it we are told the story of a special Chosen One. The force was strong with him. She had the Fate to change the entire galaxy. And him knowing this went to his head. When he was captured by the dark lord of the Sith he just kept going on and on about he's so special etc etc and the dark lord just couldn't take it anymore so he threw him down a trash chute which resulted in him getting stuck which caused a blockage that resulted in one problem after another that eventually led to the flagship blowing up and taking out several ships with it. The fate of the entire galaxy was altered. The moral of the story is that sometimes being Chosen One isn't all it's cracked up to be. Just because you have a great Destiny doesn't mean you will live long enough to enjoy it.
Jolee tells such great stories. "I hate you, old man."
"You're tall? That's actually really important"
That had me cracked up
I cracked when the wizard screamed "Farmers!"
I think there was a novel that addressed something like this, it was called “There and Never, Ever Back Again”. Possibly Conversely, the Disney cartoon the Owl House told us that everyone wants to be a chosen one, but if we just waited around to actually be chosen, we’d all die waiting, which is why you have to chose yourself. (Which is great, but I guess that does make me wonder and seriously question if the Owl House and this video just invalidates every chosen one story that’s ever been told in the history of storytelling, and if it can even be a good or interesting thing in stories at all anymore… kinda depressing in a way.)
@@justforplaylists but isn’t it kinda harmful to think or believe that because of what was shown in this video? If you know you’re a chosen one, then you might start doing just what he did. And no one is incorruptible if given the right influence, wether they’re chosen or not. Maybe it’s just better to not be chosen because then you don’t have the temptation to be this way. Which still doesn’t solve the problem of chosen one stories I suppose…
@@justforplaylists guess that still doesn’t mean that they’re entirely good, just that they have the power they can use. And even if they earn it, they can still either pursue it for bad ends or be corrupted by the power they have.
Not really. This video is just parody of badly written stories that don't deal with what most Chosen One stories deal with. That is, the Chosen One is someone that wouldn't do this because they were chosen based on who they would be and given power to deal with the problem. The ones that make a mistake of choosing someone is either a non-omniscient God, random mentor dudes that are mortal and thus fallible, or this wasn't actually a mistake and the Gods either approve of what is being done or don't care about the small fries and only care about the big picture.
Also that Owl House quote has no baring here. If your choosing to do something, your not chosen by default. Your choosing to do good, not being chosen to.
@@RavenCloak13 and yet the chosen one trope is still way too overused, and the fact of the matter is that no matter what, they still have the power and ability to do something like that, even if they’re “pure of heart” and for that matter, being pure of heart is always going to be different for everyone in every culture and every individual has a different way in which they’re pure. And if the chosen one has all this power and no one to hold them back, then they could just do as bad as the villain did. Maybe their friends can help, but if they lose them, there’s nothing stopping the chosen one from turning bad themselves, chosen by the gods or not. It happened in Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 as well.
@@jacobshore5115
No, not really. It's pretty uncommon now unless your looking at shitty fanfics.
Also, your changing the context. If they are the Chosen One hero type, they are not going to turn evil. PERIOD. They are the Chosen One. Why would they become evil? Your basically have to change the meaning of the term which people do to get these "Well this is what happens when your a Chosen One" without ACTUALLY going over the makings of molding someone into a good upstanding person and thinking just because someone died they were closed to even though most of these stories START with the Chosen One losing everything that they would become magically evil. Especially in these settings where war and death is expected. This also only really applies to people making decisions without omniscient powers for choosing someone wrong.
Now, lets go back to the FIRST game of Castlevania: Lords of Shadows... WHERE YOU WERE MANIPULATED AND MADE THE CHOSEN ONE BY THE FUCKING BAD GUY AND LITERALLY DID BECOME DRACULA. And then you had the fact that in 2, the only way he was able to fix things is because... well it said he'd become Dracula, not he couldn't STOP being Dracula. Especially since it gives you the ability to end this fate and destroy the thing causing the problems for the MC because a physical object exist to end his suffering.
These sketches are awesome man! Do more!
I'm genuinely surprised that more protagonists don't develop a god complex. lol
Most of the ones I've seen in these chosen one stories lacked confidence so much that what could cause a god complex evens them out.
Most are too trusting and kind to develop one. Imagine Ash Ketchum going rouge because of all the stuff he survived through?
Seems to me, in this story, the mage isn't telling the "chosen One" his whole plan i.e. let the daughter be raised by others, expect the guards to surrender willingly, etc.
The daughter was intentional. After all, he remembers what happened the last time the Dark Lord left a job half-done.
I mean, realistically….every single tyrant in history saw themselves as a sort of chosen one.
This is pretty much what most DMs want to say to their players at the end of your typical campaign. It's actually pretty common for me to use previous player characters as the big bad for newer campaigns. Some players get surprised by this, until i describe the trajectory their murder hoboing and domineering actually set their character on.
I know this was just a skit but the monologue starting at 4:28 is unironically really chilling and well done.
"You didn't kill the child, did you?"
Guts: "pfffft uuuh, heat o' the battle."
Yeah! your getting better at these daniel I love them!
This has got to be one of your best skits yet! You should do more long ones like this.
4:28 oh my hubris.
Also, Special Sword Effects 100
And I love these skits perhaps a little too much, never stop you Disheveled Goblin :)
I really like the idea that some of the Dark Lord's foot soldiers turn rogue and let the hero pass, only to lay a trap and backstab him because they are actually loyal to the Dark Lord. I do not recall having seen that in a story.
This is exactly the conversation that Sazed would have been having with Kelsier after defeating Lord Ruler😂😂... But life happens😅😅
Very funny! Usually don't love sit/talk UA-camrs doing skits but you totally pulled it off. With all your knowledge of the genre you hit so many trope beats.
I feel like a couple of the problems could've been fixed by telling him about the soilders being forced to serve the evil guy and that the daughter could be saved
I question exactly how "forced" were the guards to work for the dark lord. Was it just money? If so, that'd probably be selling their morality.
@@ArcCaravan Hey, they immediately surrender once the hero came. And if neighbor nephew is a good example, the Dark Lord made "my minion" the only job available. Did they had other options? I dunno, the skit didn't show and the youtuber maybe didn't thought so far
@@foisopracurtir6389 We don't know what they did before giving up to save their own lives. They could have been opportunists who would have joined the next dark lord.
Ok. That was fantastic! Laughed through the whole thing.
that little mid part actually seems like a good idea for like a story
imagine a past hero who saw himself as the only fit ruler, but in turn became just as bad as the one he had slain.
Imagine: a story beginning with a 'chosen one' who had great intends but is ruling as a dictator because he thinks he serves the greater good, but the main characters, who have been living under his tirrany and don't know the backstory, overth.... wait god damnit brandon...
even the overused idea of choosen one can be interesting if the main character has to decide if he wants to be the choosen one for the "good" side or of the "evil" side (or how you characterize both sides)
"You're tall, that's actually quite important."
Link: ehm....
Small hero pride!
I love that this video basically said "Henchmen Rights" ❤
Balgoroth, unironically, sounds like dope ass evil name lol
Such a great point. Love you Daniel.
Ah yes, they are all truly destined to become the next dark lord and make an evil child who will be halfway through growing up in the time the next chosen one is trained, has their ancient relic from the tomb of a previous chosen one and is unleashed. The wizard only becomes wise from having experience, after all.
this happens in a few stories, after killing the "evil one" the chosen one just turns into the truly evil one.
I love how we forget if we keep making a traumatized teen the chosen one we might live to regret it. I love to see one book where it's the bottom of the barrel kind of person he was chosen not because he was born great or had a destiny but because they have no one else like this man was the very bottom of there list and everyone that supposedly were the chosen one either turned or died. And he also has a bunch of bottom of the barrel party. That would be a fun read
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian.
Absolutely loved this skit!
Man, the costume maker is amazing
As soon as he said the chosen one was selected by the gods, I knew Daniel would namedrop the anointed
2:25 'A few - A few lef - there might- bu- Look !' 😂😭
That was some quality content well done man
AH, YOU'RE BACK to making skits like this.
Yay.
😸
When it came to the guards...(Flash back to Assassin's Creed cleaning out the guards) ....😐 But also, I like the idea of the Chosen One going bad.
I do like with a recent book series I’ve finished that the main character wasn’t the chosen one but it’s his kids that are so the later part of the books was him pretty much making sure his kids’ journey was ready
You know no idea how many Isekai novels have a protagonist whose job is to kill the Hero because the Hero inevitably becomes a worse problem than the demon lord
exampel?
@@frodoro7108 Sekai Saikou no Ansatsusha, Isekai Kizoku ni Tensei Suru - this one is the standard one, god sends assassin to kill the hero after the hero kills the demon lord.
Nidome no Jinsei wo Isekai de - sent to defeat the hero (not the main plot) because the hero wasn't a properly sanctioned one
Isekai desu ga Mamono Saibai - sent to correct the heroes' mistake of killing too much but doesn't contront them physically
There is another whose name I forget but the premise is that the protagonist was sent by the goddess to steal away the harem of the various heroes (who are causing mayhem) which would make them lose their hero status so that she could kill them
Yondome wa Iyana Shi Zokusei Majutsushi - not the protagonist's job but the former hero has cause the world to stagnate
Shokei Sareta Kenja wa Lich ni Tensei Shite Shinryaku Sensou wo Hajimaru - the protagonist is actually the former hero that became the new demon lord.
Actually the above example, where a betrayed hero takes revenge on the other heroes, might be more common than the one I mentioned before
Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi - is an exmaple of the above plot of betrayed hero
0:26 You look like you're struggling for a name there, Daniel. Great video all the same.
Seems less like a "chosen one" issue and more a "seeing the enemy as NPCs and not people" issue.
Also not teaching the kid to be an assassin who would just go in, kill the big boss and get out. Having him actually try and fight things is the issue here. Just kill the problem quickly with your Godlike power, liberate the people and get out. Also not giving them better morale guidance or instilling the whole "Yeah, the Gods will probably send someone after you if you try and become a great evil yourself so don't get cocky."
The lav mic clipped to the condenser mic is just
*chef's kiss*
This was fantastic! Thank you
I turned on your post notifications today, literally this morning. Perfect timing, I love this video
Haha. Every conversation that doesn't happen between our protagonist and mentor figure.
Not a "Chosen One Problem" but a "Problem Chosen One".
I’m halfway through “lord of chaos” and now understand why you named your cat pips😉
Mat is definitely my favorite character!
@@lenadoerrer9256 For now :)
@COZI too true….
This entire dialogue is basically Homelander vs anyone in The Boys.
You got to root out Evil. You never know if one of those guards got any Evil Lord aspirations.
To be fair, anyone who supports the institutions that maintain and enforce the power and authority of an evil system are sort of complicit in it when you think about it.
@@AlexGoldhill exactly Chosen One has gotta do what a Chosen One has gotta do
"Better safe then sorry."
"Look, I'm gonna level with you: this is my second play through. Gotta get that platinum."
The idea of Edding's Belgarath killing a kid is terribly hilarious 😂
I was looking for a comment like this when I heard him say the name that's who I thought of immediately 😂😂
With how long he's been around, no doubt he's done it before. Even if by accident.
I love these please don't stop.
Yeah this is exactly what I think after. Like, “What if this happened?”