@@AeneasGemini Baelish was stupid but at least somewhat in character for him to underestimate Sansa and Arya and basically think he had already won. Varys tho? Doesn't make any sense, literally no way to excuse this shit
From now on when someone throws that "It's not the destination but the journey that matters" crap at me, I will point to the ending of GOT. This franchise is dead.
And now you know how all of us pre show book people who got to Dance and said that we were fucking done with Martin feel. We weren't bitter nerds, we were just ahead of the curve.
@@kenneth6996 Giant fleet just hides behind a set of rocks in the background with one man peeking to see if the coast is clear, then just runs them through.
And also how neither Dany nor the two dragons spotted the boats on the open water beneath them. Because they were hidden behind some air, or something.
"Dragon go bah!!" Honestly, I think Daniel was there in the actual meeting. The producer must be on drugs, just surprised he didn't have a heart attack from it, though.
It's so interesting that the ending has just *erased* Game of Thrones. Other shows have had bad endings, but people still *recognise* them. With GoT, no one even talks about the *good* parts anymore, like the ending just undid the previous seasons.
Thing is it got worse long before that. It wasn't 7 good seasons and a bad ending. It was 3 or so great seasons and then got worse quickly, the more they had to write it themselves.
It’s probably because those ten years spent building up these conflicts and characters was all for nothing. With that kind of ending, it feels like we’ve just wasted our time.
I think the obvious problem is that D&D's staggering incompetence becomes more clear over time, to the point where they don't even realise what worked and what didn't previously. Then heap on their arrogance and impatience pushing them to end things early rather than hand off the project to someone who could handle the last few seasons. I think it's too sad to get people angry, what should have been a legendary show was dragged down by the foolishness of two men who clearly should have left after season 3.
This was going to be one of the shows which I would rewatch year after year. But after the finale season, it's not even in a conversation in our household anymore.
@@toh786 Same with me. I even purchased every season (through 6) on BluRay, because I wanted to make sure I had a physical copy in case I didn't have it available on a streaming service in the future. Every year before the new season started, I re-watched every previous season to get back into the show. I've not re-watched a single episode since season 8, and I have no intention of ever watching them again.
"So what are we going to do with Bronn?" "You mean the guy who doesn't know how to borrow money and said he'd literally kill a baby if you paid him enough?" "Yeah" "Well obviously we'll make him master of coin."
Bronn later: Builds an army, rolls Bran’s wheelchair off a cliff, becomes God-King of the world, dies in his own keep, drinking his own wine, watching his sons grovel over his fortune.
I love the detail of Employee Daniel closing the door so the rest of the office doesn’t hear the insanity. Incredibly authentic to an actual employee/employer discussion.
When watching Episode 5, I could almost hear DnD saying "Ah, you see, Daenerys is sad that some of her friends are dead. So that means she will become a mass murderer and kill everyone. That's how humans work."
It digs home how bad the writers were for rejecting the offer for more seasons. That heel turn could have worked if they took the time to show how losing all the friends she made on the way to Westeros affected her.
@@maestercraig3990 I wouldn't say that. He turned on the emperor and saved his son, who he had plans for, and still cared about, even if he was still a villain. Him siding with his son which he disagrees with against the emperor who was killing him does not make him an 'instant hero' in my book, nor do I think that is the rational way to look at it. Heroes and villains are rarely made in one act, at least until we get into the Dany level s08 sort of madness :)
To be fair, they were trying to set her up as being partially insane in the head over time. But they failed to develop that to a believable degree very badly by s08. And the sad thing is, I think D&D knew that this was the ultimate direction of the story from Martin for years before this. So them NOT doing that is to me, the cardinal sin of this. I can accept a GoT world where Dany snaps and becomes the mad queen. Martin even could, it makes some narrative sense. But as for the show writing? To know that is the story, even making your own story when running out of the in between source material, I think even a novice writer can do it faaaar more believably than D&D did. I cannot get my head around that. It's like they didn't care at all. Maybe it went down like Green said here, and they were simply too high on crack all the time to bother.
@@adrianbundy3249 I'm no game of thrones fan, but if she was being built up as a insane genocidal tyrant, that literally just comes out of no where based on what I've seen. I mean, she comes off as a harsh ruler, but she surrounds herself with advisors of varied opinions and views and listens to them as well as to most the people she brings under her rule. She is about as okay a monarch as you can get without a constitution. End the series with a constitution being drafted by popular revolt.
@@andrewdiaz3529 You are right, that it was not built up on her charecterization that much. But I remember saying that her being possibly crazy was built up, but not well. Always going back to the coin flip of the gods of the targaryan blood, being crazy or good, and having her slowly get more angry. That being said, that never translated to 'you know what, I am getting close to the point I might just murder a city', especially if not so recently, she was even advocating against using her dragons for just that purpose episodes before. But I was just pointing out they did try something, I could see them making that half-assed at best attempt, but the directors and writers of the show at the end were bad, and did not actually show her going fully crazy in a believable way. And this was unacceptable, because this was the planned direction of her character from RR Martin, I am pretty sure of it now. And it makes sense. But the D&D seemed not to give a shit about writing it in a way that made sense, sense Martin didn't write the books first to make that bridge for them, and they sure as heck seemed to bored to try and put in the effort before they cashed out and did star wars.
I don't think blow was what led to the show SPOILERS seeing shivving so n so at hands of Jon Snow. It lost its way but if blow was involved....I know nothing. About anything. I know nothing.
You should watch some of the dragon demands videos. Those two are really con men and they managed to fool GRRM. Apparently they just looked up the most popular fan theories online and went with it.
@@forrestdorman4870 honestly after seeing what they did to GoT without the guidance of GRRM and the books, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if this was true considering how popular of a fan theory L+R=J is.
"Not if we make Tyrion say it," specifically with that cheeks-pulled-out face, is now my go-to meme whenever I see someone say that something is the dumbest thing they've ever heard.
When you find out that HBO wanted to do 10 seasons of GoT to wrap everything up nicely but D&D dipped out early because they were bored with the show and wanted to move on to other projects.
they now have all the time in the world... but is anyone offering them anything? Edit: Netflix did, but the sci-fi trilogy they'll get to adapt has been entirely written (not ongoing), so they can stick to the original content and hopefully not make up anything on their own hahaha
@@maestercraig3990 I don't have compassion for people who publicly ridiculed an actor who wrote them a letter asking them to reconsider killing off his character as he still had plotline in the books. They've spent years showing critics middle finger, why should anyone treat them differently? They were given options by HBO but they didn't give a fuck because they were done with the show and wanted to go to greener pastures. Well who would've thought rushing an ending to a huge TV show could backfire? I find it ironic that they rushed so much that Disney fired them.
@@maestercraig3990 Where was D&D's empathy, soul, heart & compassion for the hundreds of cast and crew members whose livelihoods depended on their work on what was previously one of the most beloved TV shows ever made???? Even if you put aside the fan opinion, you still have two arrogant men who ruined the legacy of a great piece of collaborative art, thereby damaging the reputations of hundreds of people. D&D have been blacklisted by Hollywood and TV now, and THEY DESERVE IT. You reap what you sow, and they deserve whatever karmic justice comes for them, in this life or the next. I won't lose any sleep over scumbags like them, and I am not ashamed to admit I'm glad they've been exposed and ridiculed over their unprofessional behaviour, arrogance and laziness.
One easy way to keep Dany’s character stay consistent (given the lack of build up to the mad queen) would be to have Dany attack Cersei in the Red Keep and accidentally set off a ton of Wild Fire (strategically placed by Cersei to take others out with her) so that Dany burns many in the city accidentally not in a weird fit of envy. Given her previous action/conversations in the season, like burning Varys/Tarlys (it’s not a lot to work with I know), Jon believes she meant to do it and has gone mad. Jon kills Dany but now it’s a tragedy, which an audience can invest in, with Jon’s honour being his downfall similar to Ned in season 1. Jon is then brutally murdered by Dany’s blood riders because actions have consequences in this show (Jon is aware of this and that makes his act more noble). It’s still a rubbish story (I’m not a writer for HBO) but it’s a million times better than what we got.
Apparently Dany setting wildfire off by accident while raining fire on Lannister soldiers was the original plan but they decided to change it to her burning the city.
agreed. I love Dany, but I was perfectly fine if they wanted to go mad queen route if they landed it. But having her suddenly betray all of the character decisions and built up principles that she had shown throughout the entire show in one scene is not how you do that.
What they should have done is avoided trying to make her seem like an honestly morally good character. In the books and in the series she is a pretender someone who wears benevolence like a clothing, only to gain more power.
@@golfer435 Agree. What made me very mad about it was all the people saying "but it was foreshadowed". I'm aware, it was foreshadowed you're correct, but foreshadowing isn't build up, it's not character writing, foreshadowing is less important than those two, it's just a neat bonus.
@@alaljarensi6990 "only to gain more power" there was nothing to be gained when she freed the slave cities after she freed the Unsullied. Her advisors told her how freeing the cities would result in more slaves following her exodus which would mean more mouths to feed. The slaves she freed outside of the Unsullied are not fighters. Also, her riding out of the gates of Meereen to meet the sick and starving (against the suggestion of her advisors) won't gain her any power. Staying in Essos for as long as she has to try and stabilise Slaver's Bay (however successful or unsuccessful she may have been) didn't really gain her power either. And way before all of this, she gained no power when she took the women Drogo's bloodriders were raping under her protection. Considering all the introspection she does and self-awareness considering her age, she does seem to be more "benevolent" than other characters in the series and she's one of the few with bigger goals of helping others which contrasts other characters who are mostly just playing the game of thrones. Is she always effective and "good"? No. But George does not write 100% good characters anyway. Furthermore, I would argue the show actually painted her as being worse than the times she was "bad" in the books. Like, most people always point to her Quarth speech about burning cities to the ground as an indicator of madness or evil, but she never said that in the books. I also remember George saying in a con once when asked which character of his would be a good president in modern times, the only two characters he mentioned were Tyrion and Daenerys. I would say George is actually more partial to depicting Daenerys in a positive light in his books compared to Dan and Dave in the show.
Well, two things: 1. Having performed Shakespeare in rep, you have a redundancy in your first clause. A little bit of ‘Bard-lubricant’ can really help with iambic pentameter. 2. Any Shakespeare production is starting with a somewhat better script than GoT Season 8.
The biggest condemnation of how badly this show was handled was during quarantine, when there was nothing to do but rewatch tv, no one rewatched game of thrones.
Absolutely. The ending could have been "meteors fall from the sky and everyone dies" and it would have made just as much sense. It's not about the sentiment, it's about being believable and earned.
It didn't have to have a happy ending it had to be Good. That's all I wanted. I wanted the plot threads to be tied and everyone die the deaths they were supposed to
@@MellonVegan I agree. I can't believe that the Jim Henson puppet dinosaur show had the guts to kill off all of its main characters because they didn't take a threat seriously, but not Game of Thrones. Oh Cersei didn't want to volunteer her army to the "lets not die to ice zombies" cause? Two episodes later she's ringed in her castle watching the frost come in, cause that's what consequences look like.
Weiss and Benioff also stated that themes are for 8th grade book reports. These men, who spoke such utter malarkey, were given the chance to continue one of the greatest shows ever and finish it properly, but turned it down because they saw that their friend Disney had a shinier toy than them. So they abandoned it and went after said shiny toy, but it broke in a month, and now they're left with nothing. Merp.
Before The Iron Throne aired, fresh off Daenerys going mad for no reason and Arya somehow surviving literal dragon fire then riding through the ruined city on a white horse, I jokingly said "I bet they're gonna make Drogon burn the Iron Throne for the symbolism" Then they actually fucking did it and my mind was BLOWN (in a bad way). Then they made the paraplegic King. My trust in Hollywood has not recovered
In a way, I found this season a blessing for my personal life. A lot of people would look at me funny or prejudge me because I didn't watch this show, or the other trendy one "The Walking Dead". People would talk crap about my interests for literal years. I was dragged into watching the second half of Season 8 with my friends, and I could see the frustration get worse and worse each episode. It was great. Between this and the Walking Dead show dying, they don't bug me about watching trendy TV shows anymore 👍 Note: it's great if ya like both shows, just remember to not be a jerk to other people with different interests, please
I just picked up the first two books of "A Song of Ice and Fire" knowing the show ends in flames. But I would rather read an unfinished book series than to watch all eight seasons and dying inside
This is start to finish my favourite sketch of yours. Maybe one of my favourite sketches on UA-cam and a lot of that is because it's mostly accurate as hell.
@@SRosenberg203 The show is the joke, and that's the punchline... actually more like one of the punchlines since everything that happens after that scene is about as stupid, though for different reasons.
Been in your situation about a year ago but freaking speedran the series it was spectacular. Daniel really sold me on it, as well as malazan afterwards :D
I read it too much I finished the first 3 books in a week, although it sometimes gets very arduous due to how long it is since I'm already at the 6th book.
We must always remember the atrocity that GOT season 8 was. Never let them forget how they completely screwed up one of the best tv shows. I hope people keep doing this every few years!
have only seen season 1 and even that was like 8 years ago, and yet season 8 brought me so much enjoyment, just not in the form they probably intended to. Memes, shitposts, Rants. All great content
I really wish you and Ryan George would do a collaboration pitching random fantasy stuff, feel like that would be brilliant. "So what do you have for me today?" "Got this book series called the Wheel of Time" Please make this a thing
@@Liefvikerson I did, actually, but season 5 felt kinda dragged and the carnage became so pointless. It probably didn't help that I was watching as it came out, but I just could not give a flying crap about GoT after S5
@@andreas8488 The novels? No. No movie or television series will kill the books. Amazon could absolutely kill all interest in future movies or television series around the source material.
I’m still upset.
Some wounds never heal
who isn't.
Rightfully so
Metoo
We all are
"But won't it be difficult for Arya to kill the Night King?"
"Actually, it's gonna be super easy barely an inconvenience"
Oh really?
Arya killing the Night King is TIGHT
Wow wow wow. Wow.
Wow wow wow...... wow
You need to get all the way off my back about the Night King and Arya!
“It’s really important that Daenerys hold a nazi rally!”
😂 . This is where I lost it.
5:21 😇😍🖖🤚
More than “Sir, your sushi is ready. I DON’T… WANT IT!!! (I don wan et)
When he followed with "What words did you just say?" it about killed me. The delivery was perfect.
The 'I'm going to free you whether you want freeing or not.. one people, one kingdom, one queen!'
WITH the Dothraki.. who apparently are immortal at this point
"That's the dumbest possible explanation you could have chosen"
"Not if we make Tyrion say it"
Yeah, season 8 had a good time making smart characters do really dumb things, Tyrion and ma boi Baelish both got screwed
@@AeneasGemini Personally, I think everyone always knew there was some karmic justice ahead for Baelish.
@@woodwyrm Yeah but it was supposed to be smart.
@@shayla106 true
@@AeneasGemini Baelish was stupid but at least somewhat in character for him to underestimate Sansa and Arya and basically think he had already won.
Varys tho? Doesn't make any sense, literally no way to excuse this shit
Daniel's neighbors probably: "Honey the new neighbor is speaking to himself again and oh my god now he's snorting coke."
they only met him like a week ago, think about how terrifying that would be XD
That's why he's always moving
@@dariali1768 no one knows, but he's not moving anymore thankfully, he bought his own house :)
major LOL
@@dariali1768 He's not moving. He's rebuilding sets.
People were basically locked in their house for the last year and not a single person rewatched this season
Or any GoT. They completely ruined it.
From now on when someone throws that "It's not the destination but the journey that matters" crap at me, I will point to the ending of GOT. This franchise is dead.
So true! I don't have that nostalgia feeling, and that's sad :(
@@Inara-101 I still watch that bit where Ramsay says, "If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."
And now you know how all of us pre show book people who got to Dance and said that we were fucking done with Martin feel. We weren't bitter nerds, we were just ahead of the curve.
I think this is more accurate than what actually happened
That doesn't make sense but somehow I think it's true
I thought this was what actually happened
@@cvy8946 Yeah, I'm pretty sure Dumb & Dumber definitely did exactly what coked-up Daniel is doing in this video.
No it isn’t...this is actually what happened.
No honey, that isn’t the local crackhead, that’s the local UA-camr... o no, he is snorting coke
"Not if we make Tyrion say it" is actually the part that killed me.
*Tywion.
I laughed so hard on "Kill Jamie and Cersei with......(clearly confused)....ahh....rocks."
It's a metaphor, see. When Jamie shoved Bran out of the window it put him on a path that 8 seasons later he would also be killed by gravity as well.
Rocks fall, everyone dies
I like how Daenerys "forgot" about the Iron Fleet, the literal scene after they're at the war table talking about the Iron Fleet
Daenerys forgot about the Iron Fleet, but they certainly didn't forget about her!
So sad how she couldn't just see the biggest fleet in the world either, it just sneaked up on her
@@kenneth6996 Giant fleet just hides behind a set of rocks in the background with one man peeking to see if the coast is clear, then just runs them through.
*kinda forgot
And also how neither Dany nor the two dragons spotted the boats on the open water beneath them. Because they were hidden behind some air, or something.
"Dragon go bah!!"
Honestly, I think Daniel was there in the actual meeting. The producer must be on drugs, just surprised he didn't have a heart attack from it, though.
I foresee "DRAGON GO BAHHHHH" becoming a gif.
@@Vesperitis I hope so!
Dragon go bah is such Leslie Jones energy
T-shirt!
It's so interesting that the ending has just *erased* Game of Thrones. Other shows have had bad endings, but people still *recognise* them. With GoT, no one even talks about the *good* parts anymore, like the ending just undid the previous seasons.
Oh, there's still a small cult following that will still love it for life. But they are not the majority of fans of the show.
Thing is it got worse long before that. It wasn't 7 good seasons and a bad ending. It was 3 or so great seasons and then got worse quickly, the more they had to write it themselves.
It’s probably because those ten years spent building up these conflicts and characters was all for nothing. With that kind of ending, it feels like we’ve just wasted our time.
@@Aredel Facts
I think the obvious problem is that D&D's staggering incompetence becomes more clear over time, to the point where they don't even realise what worked and what didn't previously.
Then heap on their arrogance and impatience pushing them to end things early rather than hand off the project to someone who could handle the last few seasons.
I think it's too sad to get people angry, what should have been a legendary show was dragged down by the foolishness of two men who clearly should have left after season 3.
I think all of us saw the title and didn’t even have to look at the thumbnail to know what show this “season 8” is from.
I just realised the title never mentioned GoT...
I never even watched GoT and I knew.
exactly, i knew immediately what show this was about
I came here to make this exact comment but figured I better check.😂
That 70s Show
By season 7, was anyone else actually embarrassed by the fact that they had recommended the show to so many people over the years?
This was going to be one of the shows which I would rewatch year after year. But after the finale season, it's not even in a conversation in our household anymore.
No, because all 8 seasons are good.
@@GhoulishGwyn LOL!!!! You're either making an incredible joke, or you're a tremendous idiot...either way, that was hilarious.
@@toh786 Same with me. I even purchased every season (through 6) on BluRay, because I wanted to make sure I had a physical copy in case I didn't have it available on a streaming service in the future. Every year before the new season started, I re-watched every previous season to get back into the show. I've not re-watched a single episode since season 8, and I have no intention of ever watching them again.
@@frocat5163 Let's hope 'House Of The Dragon' learns from its mistakes...
I love how you can see that Daniel is still wounded by the last season lmao
It's been 2 years!
I mean, aren't we all? That void will never be filled...
It's like Rand al'Thor's wound in his side; it will never fully heal, no matter what we do.
@@Alexistheelf exactly, its likely the only version of the ending we’ll ever see/read
@@elrilmoonweaver4723 wait has it actually been two years? hold on....
"So what are we going to do with Bronn?"
"You mean the guy who doesn't know how to borrow money and said he'd literally kill a baby if you paid him enough?"
"Yeah"
"Well obviously we'll make him master of coin."
And put him in charge of the House Tyrell matriarchal lands. That was hilarious.
Bronn later: Builds an army, rolls Bran’s wheelchair off a cliff, becomes God-King of the world, dies in his own keep, drinking his own wine, watching his sons grovel over his fortune.
I love the detail of Employee Daniel closing the door so the rest of the office doesn’t hear the insanity. Incredibly authentic to an actual employee/employer discussion.
GOT in 2021(Gandalf Voice):”You’ve changed, and not for the better.”
LOTR in 2021(Gandalf Voice):”You haven’t aged a day.”
The books are still great!
@@aesir1ases64 nah the books have been going downhill for a while too
This is my favorite reply among a sea of excellent ones. How true it is, LOTR hasn't aged a day while GOT is a garbage fire
Don't worry, Amazon will make sure that will no longer be the case soon enough :)
Hoooo boy this is aging badly 😅
When watching Episode 5, I could almost hear DnD saying "Ah, you see, Daenerys is sad that some of her friends are dead. So that means she will become a mass murderer and kill everyone. That's how humans work."
It digs home how bad the writers were for rejecting the offer for more seasons. That heel turn could have worked if they took the time to show how losing all the friends she made on the way to Westeros affected her.
@@maestercraig3990 I wouldn't say that. He turned on the emperor and saved his son, who he had plans for, and still cared about, even if he was still a villain. Him siding with his son which he disagrees with against the emperor who was killing him does not make him an 'instant hero' in my book, nor do I think that is the rational way to look at it.
Heroes and villains are rarely made in one act, at least until we get into the Dany level s08 sort of madness :)
To be fair, they were trying to set her up as being partially insane in the head over time. But they failed to develop that to a believable degree very badly by s08. And the sad thing is, I think D&D knew that this was the ultimate direction of the story from Martin for years before this. So them NOT doing that is to me, the cardinal sin of this. I can accept a GoT world where Dany snaps and becomes the mad queen. Martin even could, it makes some narrative sense. But as for the show writing? To know that is the story, even making your own story when running out of the in between source material, I think even a novice writer can do it faaaar more believably than D&D did. I cannot get my head around that. It's like they didn't care at all. Maybe it went down like Green said here, and they were simply too high on crack all the time to bother.
@@adrianbundy3249 I'm no game of thrones fan, but if she was being built up as a insane genocidal tyrant, that literally just comes out of no where based on what I've seen. I mean, she comes off as a harsh ruler, but she surrounds herself with advisors of varied opinions and views and listens to them as well as to most the people she brings under her rule. She is about as okay a monarch as you can get without a constitution. End the series with a constitution being drafted by popular revolt.
@@andrewdiaz3529 You are right, that it was not built up on her charecterization that much. But I remember saying that her being possibly crazy was built up, but not well. Always going back to the coin flip of the gods of the targaryan blood, being crazy or good, and having her slowly get more angry.
That being said, that never translated to 'you know what, I am getting close to the point I might just murder a city', especially if not so recently, she was even advocating against using her dragons for just that purpose episodes before.
But I was just pointing out they did try something, I could see them making that half-assed at best attempt, but the directors and writers of the show at the end were bad, and did not actually show her going fully crazy in a believable way. And this was unacceptable, because this was the planned direction of her character from RR Martin, I am pretty sure of it now. And it makes sense. But the D&D seemed not to give a shit about writing it in a way that made sense, sense Martin didn't write the books first to make that bridge for them, and they sure as heck seemed to bored to try and put in the effort before they cashed out and did star wars.
I think the most unrealistic part of this video was that the book was anywhere near the TV writer
Underrated comment.
It was just an accident; it was supposed to be a cup of coffee instead, but someone in props accidentally left a book by mistake.
This is basically the GOT season 8 Pitch Meeting but with Daniel Greene instead of Ryan George
Woops, woopsie!
"I'm gonna need you to get aaaaaaallllllllll the way off my back about that."
Wowowow. Wow.
Perfect! 😍
Pitch meeting but with Daniel Greene is tight!
"This is Game of Thrones, we're here to achieve THE IMPOSSIBLE" xD
I also, am still, upset... RIP of Thrones :*(
Still waiting for that episode 6 review
Eyyy look who it is
Meulberschmite, wha you doin' a-here?
I found a Massive in my Daniel
I don't know how it got there, but I'm okay with this
They did achieve the IMPOSSIBLE. They only needed 6 episodes to make the fans of the biggest and most popular show of all time hate the show^^
Dude snorted it so perfectly there's not a single grain on the paper. If only he was Stephen King and used that hit to create a better season.
Indeed perfect form and snort follow through
I don't think blow was what led to the show SPOILERS seeing shivving so n so at hands of Jon Snow. It lost its way but if blow was involved....I know nothing. About anything. I know nothing.
The best part about finishing the series is when you realize that Jon Snow’s heritage didn’t affect anything whatsoever
And that every single death during the Long Night was completely pointless.
"YOU DON'T MATTER, JON SNOW"
I like how GRRM famously had these interviews to see if D&D understood and respected the story he was trying to tell...and then they go and do this.
You should watch some of the dragon demands videos. Those two are really con men and they managed to fool GRRM. Apparently they just looked up the most popular fan theories online and went with it.
@@forrestdorman4870 link? I tried searching and got nothing.
@@forrestdorman4870 honestly after seeing what they did to GoT without the guidance of GRRM and the books, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if this was true considering how popular of a fan theory L+R=J is.
The "I don't want it" joke had me ROLLING🤣
"Not if we make Tyrion say it," specifically with that cheeks-pulled-out face, is now my go-to meme whenever I see someone say that something is the dumbest thing they've ever heard.
it's so beautiful. so fucking beautiful. and I'm not even a fan. nvr watched the show either. but this is just gorgeous
“Dragon go BAHHHHHH”
That’s the perfect way to describe this last season lol
I use this as an everyday phrase now for when there is no good reason it's just "because"
Totally agree! And that's already given it too much depth!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAO
I love how Daniel's interpretation of show producers/writers is just them "sniffing" the desk and acting like they know what they're doing. GENUIS!
I can't think of any other way the wrote this season honestly
This channel is getting real sketchy and I love it💀
I see what you did there.
Seems to be getting more skittish to me.
When you find out that HBO wanted to do 10 seasons of GoT to wrap everything up nicely but D&D dipped out early because they were bored with the show and wanted to move on to other projects.
This acting is god-tier, I can actually believe Daniel is a GOT producer on crack; this is video magic right here
I want this to be a show. for every fucking episode. I would actually watch this show if he does this
"Dragon goes BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!" Is such a good summary.
Basically to summarise: B I G M E S S 🙃 love these sketches btw Daniel's acting ability is skyrocketing 🚀
"How does a fleet of ships surprise a dragon in the air?"
I've been bitching about this for forever omg
HBO actually offered them as many seasons as they wanted. D&D didn't have time for that.
they now have all the time in the world... but is anyone offering them anything?
Edit: Netflix did, but the sci-fi trilogy they'll get to adapt has been entirely written (not ongoing), so they can stick to the original content and hopefully not make up anything on their own hahaha
Why did i thought you were talking about D&D man who ever named them D&D should be arrested
@@ringsaphire Oh, has Netflix ever bothered with the original content?
@@Himmyjewett Yeah
They were absolutely sick of the series after season 3. They were completely phoning in and giving up on their writing.
I love how whenever anybody just says Season 8, everybody automatically knows which show they are talking about.
love how you never even have to mention which show when saying season 8 was shit ...season 8 is so infamous everybody immediately knows it's GoT
"Not if we make Tyrion say it" had me cackling 🤣 I love this it is so accurate
Two years.
And no one's forgiven Benioff and Weiss.
And indeed, why should we?
@@DarkRaven4649 we shouldn't.
Considering how they rushed through this because they wanted to move on to a Star Wars trilogy that never even happened... They have reasons.
@@maestercraig3990 I don't have compassion for people who publicly ridiculed an actor who wrote them a letter asking them to reconsider killing off his character as he still had plotline in the books. They've spent years showing critics middle finger, why should anyone treat them differently?
They were given options by HBO but they didn't give a fuck because they were done with the show and wanted to go to greener pastures. Well who would've thought rushing an ending to a huge TV show could backfire? I find it ironic that they rushed so much that Disney fired them.
@@maestercraig3990 Where was D&D's empathy, soul, heart & compassion for the hundreds of cast and crew members whose livelihoods depended on their work on what was previously one of the most beloved TV shows ever made???? Even if you put aside the fan opinion, you still have two arrogant men who ruined the legacy of a great piece of collaborative art, thereby damaging the reputations of hundreds of people. D&D have been blacklisted by Hollywood and TV now, and THEY DESERVE IT. You reap what you sow, and they deserve whatever karmic justice comes for them, in this life or the next. I won't lose any sleep over scumbags like them, and I am not ashamed to admit I'm glad they've been exposed and ridiculed over their unprofessional behaviour, arrogance and laziness.
One easy way to keep Dany’s character stay consistent (given the lack of build up to the mad queen) would be to have Dany attack Cersei in the Red Keep and accidentally set off a ton of Wild Fire (strategically placed by Cersei to take others out with her) so that Dany burns many in the city accidentally not in a weird fit of envy. Given her previous action/conversations in the season, like burning Varys/Tarlys (it’s not a lot to work with I know), Jon believes she meant to do it and has gone mad. Jon kills Dany but now it’s a tragedy, which an audience can invest in, with Jon’s honour being his downfall similar to Ned in season 1. Jon is then brutally murdered by Dany’s blood riders because actions have consequences in this show (Jon is aware of this and that makes his act more noble). It’s still a rubbish story (I’m not a writer for HBO) but it’s a million times better than what we got.
Apparently Dany setting wildfire off by accident while raining fire on Lannister soldiers was the original plan but they decided to change it to her burning the city.
agreed. I love Dany, but I was perfectly fine if they wanted to go mad queen route if they landed it. But having her suddenly betray all of the character decisions and built up principles that she had shown throughout the entire show in one scene is not how you do that.
What they should have done is avoided trying to make her seem like an honestly morally good character. In the books and in the series she is a pretender someone who wears benevolence like a clothing, only to gain more power.
@@golfer435 Agree. What made me very mad about it was all the people saying "but it was foreshadowed". I'm aware, it was foreshadowed you're correct, but foreshadowing isn't build up, it's not character writing, foreshadowing is less important than those two, it's just a neat bonus.
@@alaljarensi6990 "only to gain more power" there was nothing to be gained when she freed the slave cities after she freed the Unsullied. Her advisors told her how freeing the cities would result in more slaves following her exodus which would mean more mouths to feed. The slaves she freed outside of the Unsullied are not fighters. Also, her riding out of the gates of Meereen to meet the sick and starving (against the suggestion of her advisors) won't gain her any power. Staying in Essos for as long as she has to try and stabilise Slaver's Bay (however successful or unsuccessful she may have been) didn't really gain her power either. And way before all of this, she gained no power when she took the women Drogo's bloodriders were raping under her protection. Considering all the introspection she does and self-awareness considering her age, she does seem to be more "benevolent" than other characters in the series and she's one of the few with bigger goals of helping others which contrasts other characters who are mostly just playing the game of thrones. Is she always effective and "good"? No. But George does not write 100% good characters anyway. Furthermore, I would argue the show actually painted her as being worse than the times she was "bad" in the books. Like, most people always point to her Quarth speech about burning cities to the ground as an indicator of madness or evil, but she never said that in the books. I also remember George saying in a con once when asked which character of his would be a good president in modern times, the only two characters he mentioned were Tyrion and Daenerys. I would say George is actually more partial to depicting Daenerys in a positive light in his books compared to Dan and Dave in the show.
"If you do that,.....They will kill you".
Lost it there lol. Love these sketches.
More thought and effort went into this video than the entirety of season 8. Loved it
I have seen drunken renditions of Shakespeare that went better than Season 8 of Game of Thrones.
Well, two things:
1. Having performed Shakespeare in rep, you have a redundancy in your first clause. A little bit of ‘Bard-lubricant’ can really help with iambic pentameter.
2. Any Shakespeare production is starting with a somewhat better script than GoT Season 8.
@@DneilB007 I'm pretty sure 98% of scripts written in by middle-school drama students are better than the scripts for GoT season 8...
the original performances at the Globe were ALSO drunken renditions
I've been in drunken renditions of Shakespeare and I can tell you, it's at least a lot more fun than whatever Season 8 was
What about a Shakespearean rendition of Hangover 2?
The biggest condemnation of how badly this show was handled was during quarantine, when there was nothing to do but rewatch tv, no one rewatched game of thrones.
@@maestercraig3990 doubt
I still watch it, but I stop at season 6
@@maestercraig3990 you should try LOTR then.....
I can confirm. I was there.
You're kidding... Right?
@@infjelphabasupporter8416 Were the creators of the show kidding as they presented us the disappointing joke of an 8th season?
I come back to this video every mouth just to keep the feeling fresh!
Never forget
This and the Brandon Sanderson writing speed skit are the best Daniel made. Love the eye scene in this one.
If Tolkien Was Like His Worst Fans is up there as well
and to hear people defending season 8 by saying "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention" just infuriates me.
Absolutely. The ending could have been "meteors fall from the sky and everyone dies" and it would have made just as much sense. It's not about the sentiment, it's about being believable and earned.
It didn't have to have a happy ending it had to be Good. That's all I wanted. I wanted the plot threads to be tied and everyone die the deaths they were supposed to
@@MellonVegan I agree. I can't believe that the Jim Henson puppet dinosaur show had the guts to kill off all of its main characters because they didn't take a threat seriously, but not Game of Thrones. Oh Cersei didn't want to volunteer her army to the "lets not die to ice zombies" cause? Two episodes later she's ringed in her castle watching the frost come in, cause that's what consequences look like.
2:03 KILLED me. Those sketches are everything
"Not if you make Tyrion say it..." This was gold.
Wow... some pent up rage. Love these skits, do more!
"Ok... Im seeing a problem here, Im seeing an issue"
Loll had me ded with that 1 single eye
Man i could never in my life get over the fact that one of the greatest stories was ruined like this.
I think you need to get over it
@@jakehopkins6989 When you spent 8 years of your life watching something and it gets ruined like that, getting over it would be unnatural.
Almost the same feeling with HIMYM ending
The books are kind of overhyped anyway. They are good, They are not this brand epic that some people delude themselves.
IT'S METAPHORICAL!!!"
- The writing team of Benioff, Weiss, and Taserface.
Weiss and Benioff also stated that themes are for 8th grade book reports. These men, who spoke such utter malarkey, were given the chance to continue one of the greatest shows ever and finish it properly, but turned it down because they saw that their friend Disney had a shinier toy than them. So they abandoned it and went after said shiny toy, but it broke in a month, and now they're left with nothing. Merp.
Just say "Season 8" and we immediately know Game of Thrones trash fire without looking at the thumbnail
Can confirm. I didn't even see the thumbnail and I knew.
I've never watched a single episode but I knew which show it was just from the season eight
@@susaniacuone5758 same
Your truth cuts me deeply. Life is suffering, and nothing with promise has any fulfillment. 10/10 very funny.
It's sad how accurate this great sketch probably is.
This is the most logical explanation I've heard yet, thank you for easing the pain kind sir.
this is not a skit, this is behind the scenes
I love that you are ranting about this now. This last season will never not be rant-worthy.
"What about the trebuchets?"
"No time, put them in the front lines so they only get one shot off."
This man tore the headrest of his chair off. For a bit. Commitment is 20/10 and this is why this channel is amazing.
Watching Daniels version of pitch meeting was super easy barely an inconvenience.
wow wow wow
@@SRosenberg203 Wow.
“That might be the dumbest thing you said”....”not if we make Tyrion say it” 😂
I don't think I'll ever get over what they did in Season 8.
Before The Iron Throne aired, fresh off Daenerys going mad for no reason and Arya somehow surviving literal dragon fire then riding through the ruined city on a white horse, I jokingly said "I bet they're gonna make Drogon burn the Iron Throne for the symbolism"
Then they actually fucking did it and my mind was BLOWN (in a bad way). Then they made the paraplegic King. My trust in Hollywood has not recovered
I feel so emotionally validated THANK YOU for telling the truth about what actually happened in that “writing room”
In a way, I found this season a blessing for my personal life. A lot of people would look at me funny or prejudge me because I didn't watch this show, or the other trendy one "The Walking Dead". People would talk crap about my interests for literal years.
I was dragged into watching the second half of Season 8 with my friends, and I could see the frustration get worse and worse each episode.
It was great. Between this and the Walking Dead show dying, they don't bug me about watching trendy TV shows anymore 👍
Note: it's great if ya like both shows, just remember to not be a jerk to other people with different interests, please
I'm gonna re-watch this more than season 8 I can tell you that.
I just picked up the first two books of "A Song of Ice and Fire" knowing the show ends in flames.
But I would rather read an unfinished book series than to watch all eight seasons and dying inside
This is start to finish my favourite sketch of yours. Maybe one of my favourite sketches on UA-cam and a lot of that is because it's mostly accurate as hell.
Coke'd up goblin is the character I didn't know I needed in my life.
Why is the dragon burning the throne?
Because he missed Jon. That's in the script. He tried to burn Jon and burned the throne. That's real.
That is so poor writing I don't even know what to say
Seriously? HE MISSED?????? God I didn't know it was posible to hate the writers even more but here I am
Wait are you for real? Like, this isn't a joke?
@@SRosenberg203 The show is the joke, and that's the punchline... actually more like one of the punchlines since everything that happens after that scene is about as stupid, though for different reasons.
@@maestercraig3990 I'm not mad, I just find it funny. I never even watched the show.
The line snort was the best I’ve ever seen
Daniel, I'm reading WoT, I'm on chapter 42 of EotW. Why have you done this to me? I can't stop reading. Also, there is no GoT S8 in Ba Sing Se
Been in your situation 2 weeks ago. Now i am 3 books deep and still can't stop.
Been in your situation about a year ago but freaking speedran the series it was spectacular. Daniel really sold me on it, as well as malazan afterwards :D
I read it too much I finished the first 3 books in a week, although it sometimes gets very arduous due to how long it is since I'm already at the 6th book.
@@lang337 oh book 4 is the best. I envy you my friend
We must always remember the atrocity that GOT season 8 was. Never let them forget how they completely screwed up one of the best tv shows. I hope people keep doing this every few years!
I was just starting to omit season 8 from my memory. This (painfully accurate) video reminded me it exists. Rather sad now. Cheers
This is an excellent way to help me re-experience the PTSD called GoT season 8
have only seen season 1 and even that was like 8 years ago, and yet season 8 brought me so much enjoyment, just not in the form they probably intended to. Memes, shitposts, Rants. All great content
I don't know anything about Game of Thrones but the acting is so good in this video that I keep watching it over and over again.
I'm with you Daniel even mentioning season 8 I start to shake. Will this pain ever go away
I feel your pain. With me it's The Last of Us Part 2.
This is my fav Daniel Greene video. Ever. I've watched this so many times and still enjoy.
I've been watching this on a loop, every time it gets better. This might be my favorite skit.
That was both deeply disturbing and highly satisfying. I think you nailed how much of an epic failure the writing was in season 8.
Coming up with the concept for this sketch was super easy, barely an inconvenience!
😂😂😂😂
my god this is the best video I have seen a months. more good lines in these 7 minutes then the whole last season of thrones
I thought this was a weird serious in-depth breakdown of how it was written in a 7 minute video
Why? the end that was season 8 obviously didn't have even 7 minutes of writing effort in it ....:p
I really wish you and Ryan George would do a collaboration pitching random fantasy stuff, feel like that would be brilliant.
"So what do you have for me today?"
"Got this book series called the Wheel of Time"
Please make this a thing
This has enough content to keep Dr. Phil going for 8 more seasons!
"I WANT the Dothraki!" Second best literal LOL after "Dragon go BAAAAAAH!" 😂😂😂
There was never a show I was more glad to drop early than GoT (S5, I was done)
Really? Did you even enjoy seasons 1-4. I think 1-4 are masterpieces .
@@Liefvikerson I did, actually, but season 5 felt kinda dragged and the carnage became so pointless. It probably didn't help that I was watching as it came out, but I just could not give a flying crap about GoT after S5
@@Zetamen7 Fair enough. I actually enjoyed season 5 a lot. Now 6-8 for me is were it started to drag.
Possibly my new favorite video on UA-cam.
GoT: Died in Season 8
The Lord of the Rings: Lives forever!
The Hobbit trilogy: "Arent you going to search me? I could be hiding anything down there"
Just you wait for woke Amazon series. Biggest show of all time. Biggest flop of all time. I hope not but at this point I have zero faith in Hollywood.
@@heretic124 Not even a woke series made by Amazon will kill The Lord of the Rings.
@@andreas8488 The novels? No. No movie or television series will kill the books. Amazon could absolutely kill all interest in future movies or television series around the source material.
Sam's monologue about potatoes will ALWAYS make me hungry. ALWAYS.
Potentially your best video ever
So happy someone still got the energy to rant about the...hideousness no.8! I still need the therapeutic effect of the commiseration.
By far your best video yet. Om point and Huge props on the acting mate =)
Fun fact: I had a boss when I working at this one company a while back who was basically this to a T.
This show really needed 10 seasons x 10 episodes and new showrunners/writers. This is the greatest entertainment upset of the century.
Daniel, if you allow the option 'add translations', I will gladly translate this video to spanish. I really like it 😂