@@wexmell I think it'll be okay, the deployment of these is the roughest part, if they stem from one location and are counterable that way by a whole bunch of other ults then its fine
The corpse explosion is a legit menace, especially during intense team fights. And together with Mercy's ult it turns into a nightmare to deal with. A Pharah with infinite ammo and complete control over her movement, who can explode dead people for like 200 damage a pop, constantly regenerating health and having a jet boost every 1.5 seconds. The new Mercy is extreme fun.
The number of times I used it to kill someone after the barely won a 1v1 is nasty. Low key though, Brig's whipshot that pulls people is m favorite change. Snatching a Sombra out of mid-air/teleport when they're trying to run away is immensely satisfying.
Yup. Especially in OT on payload modes. Once had a game where my rein charged in to touch, swung once or twice, died, and then I exploded his corpse and got a 5k 😂
This hack/emp could go on a support but the virus change, that could work for Sombra. If Hack silences Virus can give someone -25% damage if its damage is reduced.
This gamemode is absolutely the best, im in love with it so much, going full swing as rein with a sombra pocket, having sombra as a SUPPORT CHARACTER IS SO GOOD! as an ana main the changes for her are just so good, going full dps while having a hanzo dash is just the best, the mercy explosion is just absolutely hilarious, whether it be done to my team or theres its just amazing, bastion actually feels better, hes not just a turret only type character and actually is more fair, his ult is just great, having minions in the backline while you dive the front is great, tracer zarya are kind of niche, the brig pull is fucking hilarious, especially when all i think of is "GET OVER HERE" the gamemode is just the best
@@mattevans4377yeah, it could be on a cooldown like Brigs Bash. And I think it compensates the fact that he’s the only tank that can’t attack while using his shield
@Flats, did You KNEW Bastion's new ultimate lil minions can be used to push the payload?! Neither me or enemy Bastion did, until he ulted and our team almost LOST second point in Junkertown, because those little fuckers stick to it and PUSH it! Insane xD
The first minute when he said he can't find a use for mercy rez, I'm just going to wait to see if he kills anyone with ot because it's incredibly useful when a team fight is happening and you can finish off people or displace them
I get the impression that what they are trying to eventually do, is to have all the heroes with two versions, then perhaps it could be a good versus evil for every fight, and you wouldn't have identical heroes
11:55 That is EXACTLY the same thought I had. Ruben hit it right on the head. "Could this be some of what they had in stock?" They're *amazing* changes. It feels really fun, different, and new. Sure it'll get old because of the limited hero pool, but the possibilities are all THERE...
Things I really like in mirrorwatch that I think could be implemented without hurting the balance to bad… Ana lunge, widow mini shield, bastions ult however maybe for a future hero doesn’t suit bastion that much, and possibly the sombra hack on teammates but not too sure about that one
I liked the orb changes giving the discord a weak dot effect and granting additional heals for damage done would be great changes. Plus it gives Zen options rather than default to discord tank instead you can discord a flanker to put them on a timer
I wonder if these rein changes would of been in the pve mode that got cancelled. Where they showed all the talent trees. Like these feels like things that would have been in Rein's damage tree
I would love these to be alternative picks for normal. something to unlock, would give blizzard more ammo without having to make new characters. just take old characters, give them new abilities and an unlock condition then, boom "fun". Honestly the new Sombra is the most fun i've had with her since her release this dps/support playstyle is Bonkers. new heros are free, Mirrors are unlocks.
Using Lorule theme from Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds as the background music in the game mode about an reverse world. I see what you did there
The rein changes besides the shatter and the shield amplification matrix need to come to the live game, we also need a hero that has some sought of Ai that moves around and attacks
Personally, for each of the heroes: -Doomfist: I know they won't really keep, but I love his new kit. The shout, shield, etc - all of it! I want it kept, but if not, I'd like a hero like that!; Ball not included >:( -Sombra: Honestly, I also know they won't keep it either, but this is also another one I'd keep. If anything, have his for a new support hero! -Widow: KEEP!!!!!! ALL OF IT!!!!!!! As a non-Widow player myself, this hits SO DIFFERENTLY!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! -Rein: Probably just keep his passives, including the shield breaking passive -Zarya: Nah, I'd skip it all. MAYBE the knockback, but that's it. That said, her ultimate is interesting for a new hero to have. -Ana: A hitscan Ana would be nice, potentially, and her nade change is awesome to have, but that's about it tbh -Brig: Imma say that I previous normal Brig all around despite the cool shield bash additions -Mercy: GIVE IT TO ANOTHER! No, seriously. Her kit seems cool for a new hero, though maybe work on the corpse detonation as it can be a bit too much -Zen: Probably like Brig and just keep him as is -Bastion: I actually like shotgun Bastion more, though may not his Recon mode. But his ultimate is worth coming back to- maybe not to Bastion, but for someone else! -Echo: Revert it to who she is. I don't like her changes -Tracer: I think her new Blink is cool, but that's about it. I wouldn't want her changed either
Sombra and Rein changes are actually pretty good, not too powerful, not too weak, Sombra being a support based Dps makes her way less annoying and more helpful for the most part and Reins portable bap wall shield isnt soo powerful that its oppressive but just powerful enough that it creates better space and forces enemies to rush around rather than being able to just walk up like most scenarios
I actually really like the way Sombra plays in this mode. I've been saying for a while that Sombra should be a support character, and she pretty much feels like one in this mode.
@NumbBridger for pve there would be different branches of abilities. They had some stuff boarded but nothing completed and this could have been some of the "evolved" powers some of the characters have. Like mercy changes here feel exactly like a power up for pve. Ana primary feels like a mod upgrade to include crit. Rein shield is just upgraded with a damage boost included. Definitely upgrades to their kits. Some may go live. Ana could use crits
Not a horse in sight, Doom is still a pain in the arse, Support Sombra kinda works, Bastion is still fun, Ana feels great to play again and Mercy is nuts. I'd like to see some of these ideas in reworks or on a new hero, imagine LW if he was able to give overhealth or shields like Mirror Sombra can to help make him more proactive. I hope we get a patch before the mid-season, this was a fun distraction while the current live game stagnates.
My team always consists of a widowmaker not doing anything and me being stuck on tank with 3 of the worst tanks for me. But i have to in order to complete the challenges. I main orisa or dva or junker queen. Reinhart is the only one that feels comfortable but his rush is slow and telling its so difficult to pin someone
Mirrorwatch is the worst event to date and it's not even close. Ive enjoyed every event. Even the Season 8 Primal Beast Orisa event and the Stars Wars one. But this might be the first event in ow2 that I don't complete the challenges for. I probably won't even finish 1 of the challenges. Every character feels awful to play against and the only character fun to play as is Rein. It's the first time in years I've just alt+f4'd halfway through an online game. Any game, not just ow. But playing those 4.5 games was by far the worst gaming experience I've had since the Star Wars Battlefront 2 release date. I'd rather be subject to 3 consecutive seasons of Day 1 Mauga than play Mirrorwatch ever again.
I’ve gotten potg with mercy off of the bombs alone lmaooogot a 3k with bomb. If they’re half half and near a bomb it’ll most likely kill them since it has a decent aoe
"They have chickens!" is now a valid Overwatch callout
"Why did you die?"
"I got fucked by chickens"
You know it's really an alternate reality gamemode because Rein is actually fun to play in it.
yeah because they took away like all of his counters
yes... i think Rein should be Copy Pastet into the real Mode... even im not a Tank main
The slicers from Bastion make me think there is going to be a summoner hero coming.
oh god pls no, they are gonna be so annoying to play against
Sung jinwoo ahh hero
God I hope so summoner characters / classes are peak
Or potentially a rework for Symmetra turrets making them hardlight constructs that move around?
@@wexmell I think it'll be okay, the deployment of these is the roughest part, if they stem from one location and are counterable that way by a whole bunch of other ults then its fine
Fun fact: you can inifinite blink around the spawnroom as tracer in this mode
They gotta bring some of the Rein changes to the main game, honestly.
the speed boost on shield break and swing speed increase would both be great
Widow with shield is crazy
Some of these are genuine for test
Same for doomfist's shield ngl
The corpse explosion is a legit menace, especially during intense team fights. And together with Mercy's ult it turns into a nightmare to deal with. A Pharah with infinite ammo and complete control over her movement, who can explode dead people for like 200 damage a pop, constantly regenerating health and having a jet boost every 1.5 seconds.
The new Mercy is extreme fun.
The red explode is actually kinda crazy if you use it right.
Oh ya it’s op af
It literally one-shots Tracers XD That thing goes crazy for when your DPS lose 1v1s too
The number of times I used it to kill someone after the barely won a 1v1 is nasty.
Low key though, Brig's whipshot that pulls people is m favorite change. Snatching a Sombra out of mid-air/teleport when they're trying to run away is immensely satisfying.
Yup. Especially in OT on payload modes. Once had a game where my rein charged in to touch, swung once or twice, died, and then I exploded his corpse and got a 5k 😂
right, bro was just spamming it off cooldown
Flats getting so excited about healing the chicken vs helping emogg made me so happy hahaha
chickens taste much better than emogg :p
My only complaint is mercy yelling “Heroes Never Die!” In her ult still-3-
Bro, The Sombra change should be the real game lmao
This hack/emp could go on a support but the virus change, that could work for Sombra. If Hack silences Virus can give someone -25% damage if its damage is reduced.
No it shouldn’t
Maybe as a new hero but yes we definitely need a hero with similar gameplay!
Unironically if this is them testing this to see how she is as a support, I think it feels great
I’d rather them just remove the character and act like she never existed
This gamemode is absolutely the best, im in love with it so much, going full swing as rein with a sombra pocket, having sombra as a SUPPORT CHARACTER IS SO GOOD! as an ana main the changes for her are just so good, going full dps while having a hanzo dash is just the best, the mercy explosion is just absolutely hilarious, whether it be done to my team or theres its just amazing, bastion actually feels better, hes not just a turret only type character and actually is more fair, his ult is just great, having minions in the backline while you dive the front is great, tracer zarya are kind of niche, the brig pull is fucking hilarious, especially when all i think of is "GET OVER HERE" the gamemode is just the best
Tracer is definitely not niche she's busted
The rein changes except for the shatter and shield definitely need to happen in the live game
the shield being a window is fine its not that good
@@TheOneAverageJoe Its not really necessary either tbh, but i'd take the speed buff on it breaking.
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolongThe window at least provides a reason to play Rein other than having to be a masochist
@@mattevans4377yeah, it could be on a cooldown like Brigs Bash. And I think it compensates the fact that he’s the only tank that can’t attack while using his shield
@@santiagocanovas1570 Or just nerf the damage boost. We have discord as an ability.
I'm such a big fan of Widow's "weak spot" ultimate, I think they should legitimately bring it into main game.
😭😭😭 “thanks obama :)” I NEARLY FELL OVER THAT WAS SO RANDOM
Dunno if you saw the person he responded to, who was named Obama.
@@Novenae_CCG i was looking away at the time
@@Novenae_CCG Still funny 😂
Wasn’t that funny lil bro 😭🙏
@@TractorProductions to you
@Flats, did You KNEW Bastion's new ultimate lil minions can be used to push the payload?! Neither me or enemy Bastion did, until he ulted and our team almost LOST second point in Junkertown, because those little fuckers stick to it and PUSH it! Insane xD
they capped the 1st point for us in Paraíso
The chickens were able to push the kart 5:40
The first minute when he said he can't find a use for mercy rez, I'm just going to wait to see if he kills anyone with ot because it's incredibly useful when a team fight is happening and you can finish off people or displace them
The Rein shield destroy movement speed buff needs to be in the game
Zarya basically got her second ultimate ability from Heroes of the Storm.
I get the impression that what they are trying to eventually do, is to have all the heroes with two versions, then perhaps it could be a good versus evil for every fight, and you wouldn't have identical heroes
That would be awesome
11:55 That is EXACTLY the same thought I had. Ruben hit it right on the head. "Could this be some of what they had in stock?" They're *amazing* changes. It feels really fun, different, and new. Sure it'll get old because of the limited hero pool, but the possibilities are all THERE...
The doomfist changes are actually amazing, and they should be implemented into the game
Flank Bastion feels so good with this setup. Bomb jump up to high ground, use walls to rush down supports in the backline, then clean up the front.
Flats’ mercy hurts my soul, metaphorically and literally, explosions hurt too.
“Blows up soul with mind.”
“My f*ckin soul”
i like the gamemode, just feels like it gets boring after a couple games. they could've put a bit more heroes in it
I was hoping for evil Lucio that gives enemies slowness or reduced healing
I guess they will see how people like it and if it's popular it goes from there
I'd like that. Maybe Junker Genji's blade will anti-heal enemies for every swing or Junker Symmetra's turrets now burn enemies they hit
I do hope some of these changes become actual reworks for characters. Only some of them though. Other ones are just too nuts. 😅
Things I really like in mirrorwatch that I think could be implemented without hurting the balance to bad… Ana lunge, widow mini shield, bastions ult however maybe for a future hero doesn’t suit bastion that much, and possibly the sombra hack on teammates but not too sure about that one
They gave Mercy Corpse explosion from Diablo 4 lol?
OGs point the reference to Diablo 2
@@TheLeetCasualGameran actually good game lol
i thought diablo 3 haha
Imagine being able to select normal rein or mirrored rein in normal qp and all the hero’s get to pick variations.
Just so you guys know the slicers bastion spawns also gives free ult charge to them because they give charge for damaging them
And for your team healing them
The fact that this isn't bastions real kit will probably be the reason I quit if they don't keep mirrorwatch
As a zen main, I'm a big fan of my ''get out of jail free card'' that is transcendance, but I really liked my'zen with an EMP
I liked the orb changes giving the discord a weak dot effect and granting additional heals for damage done would be great changes. Plus it gives Zen options rather than default to discord tank instead you can discord a flanker to put them on a timer
Yet another fun looking gamemode I won't be able to play, since I have no friends to play with
Bro what just play online.
Just queue solo or use Discord?
Flats sounds so happy when he realizes he can heal the chickens
The doom shout is hilarious, I never realized it was him doing it until i played him
I love they finally did the summoner hero concept at least in some sense
I wonder if these rein changes would of been in the pve mode that got cancelled. Where they showed all the talent trees. Like these feels like things that would have been in Rein's damage tree
I would love these to be alternative picks for normal. something to unlock, would give blizzard more ammo without having to make new characters. just take old characters, give them new abilities and an unlock condition then, boom "fun". Honestly the new Sombra is the most fun i've had with her since her release this dps/support playstyle is Bonkers. new heros are free, Mirrors are unlocks.
Bro, the fact the Sombra cam hack a Rein and, ITS A POSITIVE THING, its wild
They were cookin with some of these changes
The Ana changes are amazing, I hope some of these filter in to the normal game modes and become real changes.
Using Lorule theme from Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds as the background music in the game mode about an reverse world. I see what you did there
The rein changes besides the shatter and the shield amplification matrix need to come to the live game, we also need a hero that has some sought of Ai that moves around and attacks
Doom changes like the ult giving over health would be good on engaging with allies but awkward when using it on allies
Played support and felt so useless, almost like how tanks feel in regular.
Personally, for each of the heroes:
-Doomfist: I know they won't really keep, but I love his new kit. The shout, shield, etc - all of it! I want it kept, but if not, I'd like a hero like that!; Ball not included >:(
-Sombra: Honestly, I also know they won't keep it either, but this is also another one I'd keep. If anything, have his for a new support hero!
-Widow: KEEP!!!!!! ALL OF IT!!!!!!! As a non-Widow player myself, this hits SO DIFFERENTLY!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
-Rein: Probably just keep his passives, including the shield breaking passive
-Zarya: Nah, I'd skip it all. MAYBE the knockback, but that's it. That said, her ultimate is interesting for a new hero to have.
-Ana: A hitscan Ana would be nice, potentially, and her nade change is awesome to have, but that's about it tbh
-Brig: Imma say that I previous normal Brig all around despite the cool shield bash additions
-Mercy: GIVE IT TO ANOTHER! No, seriously. Her kit seems cool for a new hero, though maybe work on the corpse detonation as it can be a bit too much
-Zen: Probably like Brig and just keep him as is
-Bastion: I actually like shotgun Bastion more, though may not his Recon mode. But his ultimate is worth coming back to- maybe not to Bastion, but for someone else!
-Echo: Revert it to who she is. I don't like her changes
-Tracer: I think her new Blink is cool, but that's about it. I wouldn't want her changed either
A LOT of these abilities feel like trial runs for actual reworks.
Nah. Unused scrapped PvE talent tree abilities. Just like all the other events with altered abilities.
@@xDjembexyeah that DOES make a lot more sense as to how they were able to make all these in such a short amount of thime
The thing I'm hoping for is that Brig pull ability being added to a melee character in main game. I think that would be fun
Arise, chicken. Chicken, arise!
Sombra and Rein changes are actually pretty good, not too powerful, not too weak, Sombra being a support based Dps makes her way less annoying and more helpful for the most part and Reins portable bap wall shield isnt soo powerful that its oppressive but just powerful enough that it creates better space and forces enemies to rush around rather than being able to just walk up like most scenarios
I actually really like the way Sombra plays in this mode. I've been saying for a while that Sombra should be a support character, and she pretty much feels like one in this mode.
I wish this was the main game, Ana's change are so good.
i think they got accurate changes and now i want this in the actual game.
Can't wait for flats' gym arc
I like this trio of flats emongg and Ruben!
I’m really hoping that this event is a soft test for some buff ideas.
Chickens can touch point, we did it last night and it won us the game. That was the funniest shit
They likely gave bastion the power to spawn robo chickens not because more teammates but a better reason.
Why do these things always feel like a secret test of things to come? Like it's never JUST something fun or new, and it has an ulterior motive.
They're not testing anything. They're just trying to make use of the scrapped PvE content.
@@xDjembex there are almost ZERO PvE aspects in this game mode. They've done these wacky game modes since overwatch 1 launched.
@NumbBridger for pve there would be different branches of abilities. They had some stuff boarded but nothing completed and this could have been some of the "evolved" powers some of the characters have. Like mercy changes here feel exactly like a power up for pve. Ana primary feels like a mod upgrade to include crit. Rein shield is just upgraded with a damage boost included. Definitely upgrades to their kits. Some may go live. Ana could use crits
@@NumbBridger there were PvE specific talents being developed. That's what I was referring to.
@@NumbBridgerwouldn’t be an ow2 video without a player being argumentative and completely wrong in the comments.
the mercy ult should be put in the normal game honestly
fuck mercy all my homies hate her
The Ana jump and the mercy soul crush would be so freaking good if it was in main game
As a mercy main the res ability needs to be in the game
Maybe if they keep rez and make this only for enemy souls, cause if you remove rez from mercy there'll be genuinely no reason to play her
@@milodiingood.
Not a horse in sight, Doom is still a pain in the arse, Support Sombra kinda works, Bastion is still fun, Ana feels great to play again and Mercy is nuts.
I'd like to see some of these ideas in reworks or on a new hero, imagine LW if he was able to give overhealth or shields like Mirror Sombra can to help make him more proactive.
I hope we get a patch before the mid-season, this was a fun distraction while the current live game stagnates.
Second event in a row where they changed bastions modes and gave him a shotgun. It's almost like they're testing something 🤔
they should let you give the chickens nicknames in game
Mercy is actually insane in this mode, saw a dude go 30-2 on junkertown as mercy, it was insane
“Luckily there’s a family guuuuuuuuy!”
12:55 HAM!
I'm rooting for the chickens
Rein needs the shield change, just remove the increased attack speed after each swing
That Bastion ult is so much more fun
Damage boosting is the best thing to do as mercy in this mode. its so fun
i wonder if some of these abilities are testing possible reworks
"My screen is filled with widow cheeks"
i feel this is what they missing after THE TRAILER THAT THEY SHOWN US 2020 i think
the ana changes are sooo fun.
The doom change should have been the doom we got in OW1
The chicken ult would be better than his actual ult tbh
Played a game where the enemy mercy got POTG by getting a triple kill off a rez.. 😢
They should totally keep the widow ult, or atleast incorporate it. Makes complete sense, super fitting and makers her ult more impactful.
babe wakeup flats posted
I think the chicken can push the cart
NOT THE CHICKENS 😭😂
My team always consists of a widowmaker not doing anything and me being stuck on tank with 3 of the worst tanks for me. But i have to in order to complete the challenges. I main orisa or dva or junker queen. Reinhart is the only one that feels comfortable but his rush is slow and telling its so difficult to pin someone
Flats if you happen to see this when did you first start playing overwatch
ye, lijang on the bridge works, i did it and knocked the enemy team off
Hearing "Heroes Never Die" from Mercy while being the bad guy is weird
Lets calm down flats 0:20
Dont give blizzard that much praise
The windows specifies it work only on projectiles
They actually gave Rein a skill shot ult
This should be good. I haven’t played this yet. Now I want to
Mirrorwatch is the worst event to date and it's not even close. Ive enjoyed every event. Even the Season 8 Primal Beast Orisa event and the Stars Wars one. But this might be the first event in ow2 that I don't complete the challenges for. I probably won't even finish 1 of the challenges. Every character feels awful to play against and the only character fun to play as is Rein. It's the first time in years I've just alt+f4'd halfway through an online game. Any game, not just ow. But playing those 4.5 games was by far the worst gaming experience I've had since the Star Wars Battlefront 2 release date. I'd rather be subject to 3 consecutive seasons of Day 1 Mauga than play Mirrorwatch ever again.
I’ve gotten potg with mercy off of the bombs alone lmaooogot a 3k with bomb. If they’re half half and near a bomb it’ll most likely kill them since it has a decent aoe
Bring the chickens to real overwatch
EMREMAIN? THEYRE JUST TROLLING US?
Bastion and rein changes should stay
Sombra should be like a new future hero
Slicers can give you ult charge
I hope this stays as a permanent game mode
I was hoping it'd have more characters tbh.
They should keep bastion ult tbh it feels useful now
Grav them away for the payload/capture point