Really happy to finally see this video out, these theory vids always have great production quality and this is no different, really hope to see the amazing work continue!
I don't think Henry really had anything to do with Baby killing Elizabeth in the games. From the Blueprints it's clear that the Funtimes were originally designed to kill; Funtime Freddy has a "storage tank" with a simplified childlike form inside. William probably just told Elizabeth to stay away from Baby because he didn't intend his *own* daughter to die. Games Henry also *must* have *some* prowess in the robotics field; he created Fredbear, Lefty, and likely the other Rockstars too, after all. He also says "I am remaining as well, I am nearby." during his ending monologue. This implies he also stayed in the building and died along with everybody else. So too does "This ends, for all of us."
When we first saw the storage space, we figured it must have been designed to kill. But Gregory uses that space in Glamrock Freddy as a ‘Mech pilot seat.’ FNAF AR says the early springsuits had internal robot arms for manipulating objects and storing things in that space. While these devices are now being used to kill, I don’t think this was their original intention. The Funtimes, like Game Baby, were hacked.
Henry is like Dr. Wily, his robots aren’t as good as Light’s, but he’s good enough at robotics to reprogram Light’s robots into weapons. Fazbear Entertainment needed the secrets of Baby’s design to build an army of predatory Funtimes of their own. William nixed that plan when he refused to turn of his design secrets. So Henry worked around it by taking the robots William already made-which already had the souls of Afton family members inside them-and exploited them instead. The souls in the Funtimes clearly don’t like how they’re being used, but CBEAR and Fazbear Entertainment don’t care, and compel their actions anyway.
Yesterday i just watched most of your theories and now i woke up and see a new one... Just wow Also just a question about your interpretation of the lore: You say that BB and JJ are android closet kids that are sammy and charlie respectively. But if that's the case, what hapenned to the two children in save them that apparently became BB and JJ? Is this like Mangle where two people are inhabiting one animatronic? But what i just questioned about BB and JJ also applies to the just mentioned Mangle. If Mangle is Part of William and his wife's remnant (atleast that's what i understood of your theory around them) then what happenned to the kid in save them who 'became' Mangle? The same can be said of the three toy animatronics. And speaking of which, why is toy chica apparently possesed by a version of charlie when: 1: we don't know how she was able to posses it, and again, there's the save them kid who apparently became toy chica & 2: makes toy freddy and toy bonnie kinda irrevelent, surely they must also be posessed by someone important, right?
Well, it's a blue moon when I finish a video--something I"m working on--but I'm glad for your perseverance. The one-victim-one-robot model is more a rule of thumb. Using it, we can pinpoint the original of every FNAF robot... except for the 2 Shadows. The Shadows only work if June 26th--reported as a 2-child event in FNAF 1--is a separate event from the MCI. The robots do collect souls, while the dominant personality remains in control, we saw that in FNAF 6. So perhaps BB and JJ do have more than one after Save Them? Mangle is the only Toy Animatronic (marked so by the eye reflections) who can intuitively devour someone because they're based on a mangled Endo 02 springsuit, while the rest of the Toys have Henry's metal logs with eyeballs glued to them inside. If the other Toys can do this also, I'm not exactly sure how. It could be they're still connected to the Withered Animatornics, who people CAN fit inside, and the remnant the Withered Devour gets transferred to them somehow? I don't have a perfect explanation for why the Toys exist yet, but Help Wanted treats them exactly like the Withereds, as if the two were the same. So it could be an example case of how split pieces of a soul stay connected.
@@BlackfootFerret Huh, interesting... Also sorry if asking too much but i've just noticed a... Plot hole? (Probably not correct word) In your timeline that i don't think you've noticed... You say that: FNAF 4, World and UCN are all matrixes made by Shadow Freddy William, Teen Henry and Michael are all in the FNAF 4 matrix at the same time, and while William isn't in any matrix after 4 is done, Henry and Michael have another to go through (UCN and World respectively) William got into the matrix because he was stuck in Springtrap alongside Sammy in the finale of the FNAF 3 follow me minigame. Teen henry got into the matrix because he was mauled in the FNAF 1 night 4 phone call. Michael got into the matrix because of the infamous bite of 87, and after escaping both 4 and World, he went into FNAF 1 Freddy (with young Charlie inside) reuniting him with the Mangle marauders, Sammy and Lamar (Bonnie and Chica respectively). Now, it's possible i misunderstood some parts of your timeline, but the plot hole is: *If William got in the FNAF 4 matrix because of him entering into Springtrap, then that completely clashes with the fact Michael got in FNAF 1 Freddy immediatly after leaving the matrix. Since William went into Springtrap after he dismantled the FNAF 1 animatronics freeing their spirits/remnant.* And really, there's not much solutions to fix this. William asking Shadow Freddy for her to put him in the matrix sometime before his death wouldn't work cause that would break the whole purpose of the matrix, which is to keep Jeremy and Teen Henry forever. (Unless William did a: "if you do set thing [put me {William} in the matrix] i'll give ya loads of money." [Or whatever to bait Shadow Freddy]) The restaurant's third opening (Chica's party world in your theory) rebuilding the core 4 suits after William dismantled them wouldn't make much sense, since we see in the final follow me minigame the ghosts leaving the suits, and there wouldn't be much reason for them to come *back* into the suits. In the end, i don't think you've noticed this glaring issue, and would probably be demolished by people asking about it and maybe other issues in your timeline (Since i've noticed lately in the last couple of months lots of small fnaf channels becoming sorta mainstream. [notrealname, sire squawks, ryetoast, hyper droid, ID, uhyeah, etc...] So i definetly think it would be better for you to be acknowledged by the issues before it would be your turn to shine.). ALSO also, a bonus thing to left off which is kinda unrelated: I don't think we know which year FNAF 1's location opens, all we know is that Mike Schmidt/William's shift is in 1992. Which doesn't mean the location also opens in 1992. This gives me an idea that the night 4 phone call is an re-enactment of phone's guy death, and that it was Shadow Freddy making fun of his death. (But that's a pretty loose assumption with not evidence so take it with a grain of salt.)
@@queintfennec You've identified a glitch in my timeline that I've spent a long time trying to resolve. It does seem I have Michael escaping the FNAF 4 Matrix before William ever got Springtrapped, which is definitely a problem. My current take is that even though it looks like FNAF 1, Michael woke up in one of the later incarnations of Fredbear's/FNAF 1 open after that time. This is more of a placeholder theory than a castle I'm willing to die defending though. I'm open-minded for other resolutions.
@@queintfennec Didn't FNAF AR give us a range where FNAF 1 could have been open? Something about people voting a recipie most tasty between 1988 and 1993 or such.
@@BlackfootFerreti was thinking of an idea that fredbears slowly became freddys, cause when you think about it, has there ever been a murder/accident at freadbears? Most were either in Pizza Place or in the New and improved.
Yes. He’s Ballora’s son, and Sammy and Charlie’s half-brother. He joined the family after Take Cake to the Children in 1972, and inherited the robot Charlie was supposed to get that day.
Unrelated but I kinda just thought of an idea and would like to hear what you think what if Orville elephant was Williams replacement character meant to replace Foxy and Freddy who he gave to his kids after all Orville is orange the perfect mix between foxy's red and Freddy's brown and Orville is a magician like Williams staff bot in the silo in sb
The melodys don't seem to be possessed but they could have been unused horcux(I don't know how to spell it) animatronics intended for other family members
What do you think of the Mimic? I think he’s a really cool character people are severely as a “William Afton” copy. When really, he’s the robotic twin of David. Also William and Scraptrap are different people in fnaf6. Fruity maze reveals our protagonist and William Afton on the current setting of fnaf6 with much cleaner appearances than any of the scrap animatronics. Susie is using an illusion disk to hide her robotic form. William Afton might be using an illusion disk, but he definitely has both of his arms. Henry has to be talking about Sammy Emily in particular in the fnaf6 ending.
The Mimic is definitely cool. He's sort of Karma incarnate, since he'll be nice as long as other people do nice things around him, then mimic evil if people do that to him. I'm definitely getting a William and Henry opposites vibe from the Mimic's inventor and Mr. Burrows. And it seems both of their soles might be in the Tree now along with it.
@@BlackfootFerret The Mimic and his father's last name is actually Murray. In the Pizza Plex and the story teller, we see how the Mimic longs for family and trying to recreate parts of David's personality in the Glamrocks. Moon's room displays the Mimic playing house with the Glamrock plushies. The Afton table is the Mimic trying to uncover William's secrets and have what William has, a loving family. Neither Edwin or Henry are good fathers for the mimic to look into. Cause unlike them, William is a great father to his children. He is fully aware of what he is (a robot who develops a souls), what he is seeking (understanding souls), and what he is doing (murdering humans with souls). Telling the Mimic to destroy the endos triggers his nasty personality and past with Edwin. The Mimic by his basics seems like a mindless copier. He honestly grows and develops like a normal human being. He's curious, he's inventive, and he's far more skillful than Sammy Emily. If anything, I can see him and Sammy Emily fuse together as "new twins". They've been separated from David and Charlie for long time. Sammy is the Mimic's biggest inspiration.
@@BlackfootFerret Henry was dealing with Sammy the Springtrap long before William died in the suit. The fnaf3 phone calls take place way before fnaf2. Springtrap progressively becomes more dangerous in the tapes. Not to mention, Henry admits he created Springtrap/Scraptrap. He wouldn't describe this for a man that developed on his own. He would more reasonably say this for a son he raised. The son, Sammy Emily, that mimics his shitty, abusive father. If anything, Henry will be far more doubtful about William being Springtrap. To him, William Afton's corpse is from a stupid employee that refuses to listen to the fnaf3 tapes. Springtrap's victim. Not Springtrap's true identity.
Really meta, a lot of time have passed since fnaf theorists started using books for proof but no clear connection was established between those universes. Great job🤌
Really happy to finally see this video out, these theory vids always have great production quality and this is no different, really hope to see the amazing work continue!
I'm still learning, but I think I finally got clear audio on this one.
I try to be as informative as possible.
Thanks for sticking with me :)
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what a interesting take on the book universe! cant wait to see your next fnaf theory!
I'm getting up to speed. Guess this is the boss level year.
Wow after all these years good work
It took me many years and constant revision to get here, but now I think it’s all starting to gel.
This channel provides some truly fringe theories. I'm intrigued.
Got more on the way.
Feel Mat Pat should've mentioned you at this point
best fnaf theorist to date tbh
I do what I can ^_^. Thanks for subscribing!
I don't think Henry really had anything to do with Baby killing Elizabeth in the games. From the Blueprints it's clear that the Funtimes were originally designed to kill; Funtime Freddy has a "storage tank" with a simplified childlike form inside. William probably just told Elizabeth to stay away from Baby because he didn't intend his *own* daughter to die.
Games Henry also *must* have *some* prowess in the robotics field; he created Fredbear, Lefty, and likely the other Rockstars too, after all.
He also says "I am remaining as well, I am nearby." during his ending monologue. This implies he also stayed in the building and died along with everybody else. So too does "This ends, for all of us."
When we first saw the storage space, we figured it must have been designed to kill.
But Gregory uses that space in Glamrock Freddy as a ‘Mech pilot seat.’
FNAF AR says the early springsuits had internal robot arms for manipulating objects and storing things in that space.
While these devices are now being used to kill, I don’t think this was their original intention.
The Funtimes, like Game Baby, were hacked.
Henry is like Dr. Wily, his robots aren’t as good as Light’s, but he’s good enough at robotics to reprogram Light’s robots into weapons.
Fazbear Entertainment needed the secrets of Baby’s design to build an army of predatory Funtimes of their own.
William nixed that plan when he refused to turn of his design secrets.
So Henry worked around it by taking the robots William already made-which already had the souls of Afton family members inside them-and exploited them instead.
The souls in the Funtimes clearly don’t like how they’re being used, but CBEAR and Fazbear Entertainment don’t care, and compel their actions anyway.
Henry isn't the villain of fnaf you are wrong.
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jeus this video is almost completey wrong about everything in the games I'm impressed .
Well, the observation is that the games and novels are the opposite of each other. So.. thanks?
Yesterday i just watched most of your theories
and now i woke up and see a new one... Just wow
Also just a question about your interpretation of the lore:
You say that BB and JJ are android closet kids that are sammy and charlie respectively.
But if that's the case, what hapenned to the two children in save them that apparently became BB and JJ?
Is this like Mangle where two people are inhabiting one animatronic?
But what i just questioned about BB and JJ also applies to the just mentioned Mangle.
If Mangle is Part of William and his wife's remnant (atleast that's what i understood of your theory around them) then what happenned to the kid in save them who 'became' Mangle?
The same can be said of the three toy animatronics. And speaking of which, why is toy chica apparently possesed by a version of charlie when:
1: we don't know how she was able to posses it, and again, there's the save them kid who apparently became toy chica &
2: makes toy freddy and toy bonnie kinda irrevelent, surely they must also be posessed by someone important, right?
Well, it's a blue moon when I finish a video--something I"m working on--but I'm glad for your perseverance.
The one-victim-one-robot model is more a rule of thumb.
Using it, we can pinpoint the original of every FNAF robot... except for the 2 Shadows.
The Shadows only work if June 26th--reported as a 2-child event in FNAF 1--is a separate event from the MCI.
The robots do collect souls, while the dominant personality remains in control, we saw that in FNAF 6.
So perhaps BB and JJ do have more than one after Save Them?
Mangle is the only Toy Animatronic (marked so by the eye reflections) who can intuitively devour someone because they're based on a mangled Endo 02 springsuit, while the rest of the Toys have Henry's metal logs with eyeballs glued to them inside.
If the other Toys can do this also, I'm not exactly sure how.
It could be they're still connected to the Withered Animatornics, who people CAN fit inside, and the remnant the Withered Devour gets transferred to them somehow?
I don't have a perfect explanation for why the Toys exist yet, but Help Wanted treats them exactly like the Withereds, as if the two were the same. So it could be an example case of how split pieces of a soul stay connected.
@@BlackfootFerret Huh, interesting...
Also sorry if asking too much but i've just noticed a... Plot hole? (Probably not correct word) In your timeline that i don't think you've noticed...
You say that:
FNAF 4, World and UCN are all matrixes made by Shadow Freddy
William, Teen Henry and Michael are all in the FNAF 4 matrix at the same time, and while William isn't in any matrix after 4 is done, Henry and Michael have another to go through (UCN and World respectively)
William got into the matrix because he was stuck in Springtrap alongside Sammy in the finale of the FNAF 3 follow me minigame.
Teen henry got into the matrix because he was mauled in the FNAF 1 night 4 phone call.
Michael got into the matrix because of the infamous bite of 87, and after escaping both 4 and World, he went into FNAF 1 Freddy (with young Charlie inside) reuniting him with the Mangle marauders, Sammy and Lamar (Bonnie and Chica respectively).
Now, it's possible i misunderstood some parts of your timeline, but the plot hole is:
*If William got in the FNAF 4 matrix because of him entering into Springtrap, then that completely clashes with the fact Michael got in FNAF 1 Freddy immediatly after leaving the matrix. Since William went into Springtrap after he dismantled the FNAF 1 animatronics freeing their spirits/remnant.*
And really, there's not much solutions to fix this.
William asking Shadow Freddy for her to put him in the matrix sometime before his death wouldn't work cause that would break the whole purpose of the matrix, which is to keep Jeremy and Teen Henry forever. (Unless William did a: "if you do set thing [put me {William} in the matrix] i'll give ya loads of money." [Or whatever to bait Shadow Freddy])
The restaurant's third opening (Chica's party world in your theory) rebuilding the core 4 suits after William dismantled them wouldn't make much sense, since we see in the final follow me minigame the ghosts leaving the suits, and there wouldn't be much reason for them to come *back* into the suits.
In the end, i don't think you've noticed this glaring issue, and would probably be demolished by people asking about it and maybe other issues in your timeline (Since i've noticed lately in the last couple of months lots of small fnaf channels becoming sorta mainstream. [notrealname, sire squawks, ryetoast, hyper droid, ID, uhyeah, etc...] So i definetly think it would be better for you to be acknowledged by the issues before it would be your turn to shine.).
ALSO also, a bonus thing to left off which is kinda unrelated:
I don't think we know which year FNAF 1's location opens, all we know is that Mike Schmidt/William's shift is in 1992. Which doesn't mean the location also opens in 1992.
This gives me an idea that the night 4 phone call is an re-enactment of phone's guy death, and that it was Shadow Freddy making fun of his death. (But that's a pretty loose assumption with not evidence so take it with a grain of salt.)
@@queintfennec You've identified a glitch in my timeline that I've spent a long time trying to resolve.
It does seem I have Michael escaping the FNAF 4 Matrix before William ever got Springtrapped, which is definitely a problem.
My current take is that even though it looks like FNAF 1, Michael woke up in one of the later incarnations of Fredbear's/FNAF 1 open after that time.
This is more of a placeholder theory than a castle I'm willing to die defending though. I'm open-minded for other resolutions.
@@queintfennec Didn't FNAF AR give us a range where FNAF 1 could have been open? Something about people voting a recipie most tasty between 1988 and 1993 or such.
@@BlackfootFerreti was thinking of an idea that fredbears slowly became freddys, cause when you think about it, has there ever been a murder/accident at freadbears? Most were either in Pizza Place or in the New and improved.
Mirror Mirror
A great Star Trek TOS episode. I got to see Star Trek In The Park do it live.
@@BlackfootFerret that sounds amazing, love that episode!
Question: have you ever figured out a place lamar fits on the family tree?
Yes. He’s Ballora’s son, and Sammy and Charlie’s half-brother.
He joined the family after Take Cake to the Children in 1972, and inherited the robot Charlie was supposed to get that day.
Unrelated but I kinda just thought of an idea and would like to hear what you think what if Orville elephant was Williams replacement character meant to replace Foxy and Freddy who he gave to his kids after all Orville is orange the perfect mix between foxy's red and Freddy's brown and Orville is a magician like Williams staff bot in the silo in sb
The melodys don't seem to be possessed but they could have been unused horcux(I don't know how to spell it) animatronics intended for other family members
Pig patch could have been an alternative intended for Henry because of his pink color scheme and having foxy's pants
Happy frog could have been an alternative for Charlie after lumar took classic chica
What do you think of the Mimic? I think he’s a really cool character people are severely as a “William Afton” copy. When really, he’s the robotic twin of David.
Also William and Scraptrap are different people in fnaf6. Fruity maze reveals our protagonist and William Afton on the current setting of fnaf6 with much cleaner appearances than any of the scrap animatronics. Susie is using an illusion disk to hide her robotic form. William Afton might be using an illusion disk, but he definitely has both of his arms.
Henry has to be talking about Sammy Emily in particular in the fnaf6 ending.
The Mimic is definitely cool.
He's sort of Karma incarnate, since he'll be nice as long as other people do nice things around him, then mimic evil if people do that to him.
I'm definitely getting a William and Henry opposites vibe from the Mimic's inventor and Mr. Burrows. And it seems both of their soles might be in the Tree now along with it.
Why must Henry be talking about Sammy at the end?
I think Sammy is in Scraptrap, but does Henry know that?
@@BlackfootFerret The Mimic and his father's last name is actually Murray.
In the Pizza Plex and the story teller, we see how the Mimic longs for family and trying to recreate parts of David's personality in the Glamrocks. Moon's room displays the Mimic playing house with the Glamrock plushies. The Afton table is the Mimic trying to uncover William's secrets and have what William has, a loving family. Neither Edwin or Henry are good fathers for the mimic to look into. Cause unlike them, William is a great father to his children.
He is fully aware of what he is (a robot who develops a souls), what he is seeking (understanding souls), and what he is doing (murdering humans with souls). Telling the Mimic to destroy the endos triggers his nasty personality and past with Edwin.
The Mimic by his basics seems like a mindless copier. He honestly grows and develops like a normal human being. He's curious, he's inventive, and he's far more skillful than Sammy Emily. If anything, I can see him and Sammy Emily fuse together as "new twins". They've been separated from David and Charlie for long time. Sammy is the Mimic's biggest inspiration.
@@BlackfootFerret Henry was dealing with Sammy the Springtrap long before William died in the suit. The fnaf3 phone calls take place way before fnaf2. Springtrap progressively becomes more dangerous in the tapes.
Not to mention, Henry admits he created Springtrap/Scraptrap. He wouldn't describe this for a man that developed on his own. He would more reasonably say this for a son he raised. The son, Sammy Emily, that mimics his shitty, abusive father.
If anything, Henry will be far more doubtful about William being Springtrap. To him, William Afton's corpse is from a stupid employee that refuses to listen to the fnaf3 tapes. Springtrap's victim. Not Springtrap's true identity.
Fredbear poster theory
I respect your opinion on Steven universe
Well, that's something I haven't talked about for a while. It was my first confirmed success as a theorist. I'm glad you noticed it.
I hate fnaf
I can understand why people get frustrated about this stuff.
I hate Fnaf too. Thank you for writing this comment.
I just love fnaf hater
I love fnaf
But@@joarsoderstrom8287 I respect your opinion on fnaf
Really meta, a lot of time have passed since fnaf theorists started using books for proof but no clear connection was established between those universes. Great job🤌
I've put the Mirror Universe theory as part of other longer videos for a while, but I think these small focuses vids will probably make more headway.