Destiny 2 - The Curse of Osiris: The Review

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  • Destiny 2 disappointed me, but I was willing to stick with it because I had faith that Bungie would take the necessary steps to improve the game. But upon seeing how lazy this DLC is, and how unworthy it is of our time, I just felt foolish. I'm out.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 10 тис.

  • @ratedm4monke499
    @ratedm4monke499 6 років тому +229

    How to decrease difficulty: give them the high ground.
    Obi Wan Kenobi approved.

    • @LyGon-pw5mt
      @LyGon-pw5mt 6 років тому +2

      Dawson Sihavong You underestimated my power!

    • @ratedm4monke499
      @ratedm4monke499 6 років тому +10

      NS120121
      Fanbase: Don’t try it Bungie!
      Bungie: *Jumps the gun* Destiny 2!
      Fanbase: *insert lightsaber/review.jpg here* -Bungie spliced-
      You were the chosen one! You were supposed to change gaming, not join the trends!

    • @LyGon-pw5mt
      @LyGon-pw5mt 6 років тому

      Dawson Sihavong Oh shit, Bungie is going to come back as a branch of EA now! What should we call it? In the Sith's case it's the Darths, so in EA's case, idk.

  • @MikeJones-xg2bm
    @MikeJones-xg2bm 6 років тому +251

    they might as well just start making dlcs for destiny 1 and forget this ever happened

    • @crashTestGuru
      @crashTestGuru 6 років тому +17

      Mike Jones I would support this. I would go straight back. Most of us would, I believe

    • @ltsam5815
      @ltsam5815 6 років тому +4

      What about us PC gamers. Even if they did that we got the shortest end of this stick.

    • @CHICOXV3
      @CHICOXV3 6 років тому +2

      100! Im thinking about going back most ppl i know already have... this is a bigger dissapointment than mass effect andromeda and even the divisions 1.8 is a better update and its FREE! Now thats saying something... what is up with gaming this year?

    • @Taurusus
      @Taurusus 6 років тому +2

      We might as well be playing a Full Conversion D1 xpac as it is. There really wasn't enough added to D2 to make it worthy of an iteration in the first place.

    • @ReikoAyumiVT
      @ReikoAyumiVT 6 років тому +1

      Mike Jones the way D2 is... seems like a extra dlc on a new dlc

  • @joxaX1
    @joxaX1 6 років тому +384

    This video is longer than the DLC itself.

    • @vankrelian
      @vankrelian 6 років тому +28

      And also more entertaining.

  • @laither3388
    @laither3388 6 років тому +494

    I’m a veteran destiny player and I regret buying this game for $100.

    • @ozzyboy6438
      @ozzyboy6438 6 років тому +6

      Laith Gharsalawe same dude, saaammmeeee

    • @mariataveras5939
      @mariataveras5939 6 років тому +4

      The amaizing friends I've met all the great moments 100 to me was worth that

    • @AverageGamerXP
      @AverageGamerXP 6 років тому +5

      and that is why i don't get Delxue Editions Or Collecters Editoins i get Standard Editions so i can decide what dlc i like or don't like

    • @Firepowerx31
      @Firepowerx31 6 років тому +10

      Or you could just not buy a shit game........

    • @THANE_MITHRA
      @THANE_MITHRA 6 років тому +7

      did you not learn anything from destiny ?

  • @raine8400
    @raine8400 6 років тому +651

    this video is longer than the campaign of curse of osiris

  • @wesosdequeso8360
    @wesosdequeso8360 6 років тому +166

    They are hiring lootbox system designers instead of actual writers or game developers. That's Destiny 2

    • @relaxingspot2024
      @relaxingspot2024 6 років тому +6

      And that's because of the fanboys who continue to pay for that shit. Why would they even try in working adding new content, if shit sells?

  • @truth2527
    @truth2527 6 років тому +281

    Fans: Its Over Bungie I have the High Ground
    Bungie:You underestimate my power

    • @echeaz
      @echeaz 6 років тому +23

      Annnnnnd then Bungie get's it's legs and arms chopped off not to mention hell-degree burns over what's left. lol

    • @RellDefinition
      @RellDefinition 5 років тому +1

      We all know what happens next

    • @solid5502
      @solid5502 4 роки тому

      Warframe: Don't try it.

    • @tonyl9636
      @tonyl9636 3 роки тому

      Underrated comment. kudos to you sir

  • @LaymenGaming
    @LaymenGaming 6 років тому +550

    If you want to hear SkillUp drunk. Slow this video down to 0.5x.

    • @blankmage7556
      @blankmage7556 6 років тому +75

      Laymen Gaming If you want to hear Laymen Gaming drunk... go watch some of their videos.

    • @Ninja7546
      @Ninja7546 6 років тому +5

      Blank Mage savage... just savage.

    • @Ninja7546
      @Ninja7546 6 років тому

      Laymen Gaming the fact you came back to this a week ago... I'd be a betting man to say yous are hungry for D2 news? Keep trawling reddit!

    • @YeetThyBaby
      @YeetThyBaby 6 років тому

      Hahahaha oath

    • @technoir2216
      @technoir2216 6 років тому +2

      Hey sounds totally trashed.

  • @Lazarus_
    @Lazarus_ 6 років тому +121

    Bungie needs the gaming version of Gordon Ramsey to come into their studio.

    • @deadensolo2347
      @deadensolo2347 6 років тому +1

      Stephen dude great comment. Agree completely.

    • @JuanPerez-ff6ih
      @JuanPerez-ff6ih 6 років тому +14

      THIS GAME IS RAW

    • @gabrielbitar7757
      @gabrielbitar7757 6 років тому +6

      Angry joe would be perfect

    • @soarerska
      @soarerska 6 років тому

      Stephen definitely that would be the best thing that could happen to them

    • @Tuffadandem
      @Tuffadandem 6 років тому

      Stephen I agree with you sir!

  • @Balthazar3
    @Balthazar3 6 років тому +246

    God, this is the truest review I have ever had the disheartened joy of watching.

    • @blackxfoxx9815
      @blackxfoxx9815 6 років тому

      Drew 38 every company has its pros and cons

  • @FriedFx
    @FriedFx 6 років тому +321

    I uninstalled Destiny 2 and went to Warframe. I saw a gun I wanted in the warframe market, bought the blue print, farmed the ingredients, and boom! crafted it and now enjoying it. No loot box slot machine.

    • @y2kplus9
      @y2kplus9 6 років тому +74

      Precisely. Welcome home, Tenno.

    • @chrisrichardson1600
      @chrisrichardson1600 6 років тому +34

      CLEM!!

    • @notlarry7985
      @notlarry7985 6 років тому +15

      Ingredients... Latron topped with a mushroom sauce

    • @kinjunsee9766
      @kinjunsee9766 6 років тому +1

      MyNamesNotLarry Hahaha

    • @drahkana7829
      @drahkana7829 6 років тому +11

      That was basically me. I was hardcore on Destiny during my first warframe experience, and what got me into the game was the sybaris. The moment I saw that gun I was in love.

  • @Yandere7290
    @Yandere7290 6 років тому +58

    when i went to return my destiny 2, there were several shelves of pre-owned destiny 2's lol

  • @rezachoudhury823
    @rezachoudhury823 6 років тому +416

    I'm just surprised that Destiny 2 got a nomination for "best ongoing game" somehow.

    • @PersonWMA
      @PersonWMA 6 років тому +77

      Because the Game Awards is just a series of advertisements. Guess who buys advertising.

    • @RG-iv2do
      @RG-iv2do 6 років тому +2

      PersonWMA I was suprised on how many ads were on the awards

    • @pracitus
      @pracitus 6 років тому

      reza choudhury money $$$

    • @Kortezxero
      @Kortezxero 6 років тому +48

      That's what I said man. How the fuck did Warframe not win that. A game that started out pure shit, and worked and evolved into a game that is just a blast to play years and years later. Hell the game is still changing constantly. And Destiny 2 being nominated was just down right laughable to me.

    • @astrocyborg
      @astrocyborg 6 років тому

      salty about boreframe not getting anything i see

  • @Tyrodin
    @Tyrodin 6 років тому +988

    This 'expansion' is a joke. This is not an expansion, this is a content patch with a pricetag. I'm a new fan to the Destiny universe and I'm hoping that a swift kick up the arse, combined with a reality check will finally make Bungie aware that they're headed further and further away from the post-Taken King game quality.
    Loved the review Ralph :)

    • @chayce3205
      @chayce3205 6 років тому +14

      Tyrodin the post taken king era was simply luck, after numerous patches, events, expansions, etc the game was finally "good" it wasn't exactly skill or anything, just bungie throwing a bunch of shit at the wall hoping something sticks, rise of iron proved this by being mediocre.

    • @tiagocbraga
      @tiagocbraga 6 років тому +4

      content patch? osiris is joke content, its even worse than the fallen dlc in d1

    • @ResettingRocco
      @ResettingRocco 6 років тому +5

      As much as I want to be a kiss-ass I have realised that Bungie is going in a very bad direction and I am hoping for a Taken King- sized expansion to save the day. This game, as much as I hate to say it, is going downhill.

    • @Nitious
      @Nitious 6 років тому +13

      I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that's what most loyal players have been hoping since D1 and now the sequel is even worse. Do yourself a favor and just quit before you waste any more money in hope that the next DLC will fix everything, and when it disappoints again to just hope for the next one.

    • @philipslattery2883
      @philipslattery2883 6 років тому +2

      Tyrodin I gave up after the last faction wars.... lazy, boring game making, the whole game is pointless.

  • @richard9600
    @richard9600 6 років тому +474

    You know the truth now Tenno

    • @ritsus3188
      @ritsus3188 5 років тому +4

      im not a grineer

    • @karmicbacklash
      @karmicbacklash 5 років тому +17

      CALEB CUYLER Anthem is the best thing that ever happened to Destiny 2 which is the best thing that ever happened to Warframe...

    • @JPOG7TV
      @JPOG7TV 5 років тому +10

      White Wolfy your comment has aged so fucking poorly

    • @willdenoble1898
      @willdenoble1898 5 років тому +4

      Pffft this game is 100x better than grindframe

    • @theguywhowentthere3346
      @theguywhowentthere3346 4 роки тому +5

      @@willdenoble1898 - suuure

  • @jettc3167
    @jettc3167 2 роки тому +11

    He was, in fact, not done with destiny 2

  • @boggart273
    @boggart273 6 років тому +450

    R.I.P. Destiny 2
    2017-2017.

  • @beastmode-ef9hk
    @beastmode-ef9hk 6 років тому +91

    I'm still pissed i spent money on this game

    • @pryt86
      @pryt86 6 років тому +4

      beastmode32 Me too. I can't believe after destiny 1 i bought 2. Stopped playing a week after it came out. And will never go back, or give bungie another dime.

    • @szethtoxicco1710
      @szethtoxicco1710 6 років тому +4

      There's a saying. 'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me'.
      No one to blame but yourselves.

    • @hamzahussain7794
      @hamzahussain7794 6 років тому

      Me too. I have never been so angry at myself before in my life

    • @TaigaNine
      @TaigaNine 6 років тому +6

      Selling the game on eBay. #ZeroBids

    • @CagedPhoenixThe1st
      @CagedPhoenixThe1st 6 років тому

      I didn't have paper to spend at the time. I would have got it to but after hearing all the negative news about it, I probably would have put it down quicker than the first one.

  • @ethansummer8680
    @ethansummer8680 4 роки тому +29

    It's crazy that a good amount of this stuff is still relevant today and it's been 2.5 years.

  • @rockstarskolas
    @rockstarskolas Рік тому +7

    *narrator voice*: *”He was not done with Destiny 2”*

  • @CriticalNobody
    @CriticalNobody 6 років тому +179

    Good thing I saw Skill Up's video about Warframe a week ago and now have 40 hours of playtime in it. No reason to go back to Destiny 2 now

    • @PlsDontReadThis123
      @PlsDontReadThis123 6 років тому +9

      Critical Nobody ive put in like 300+ hours in the last month, i love warframe

    • @teaque_huntress416
      @teaque_huntress416 6 років тому +5

      I've put in 900+ hours in around a year ^_^ Warframe is amazing

    • @tupapalote23
      @tupapalote23 6 років тому +3

      I put over 600 hours on warframe. And I moved from ps4 to PC and they don't want to transfer my file. 😔😭😭😢😢😭😭

    • @Xonthos
      @Xonthos 6 років тому +4

      Welcome to our family, fellow Tenno. I do hope you enjoy your stay.

    • @sterlingfelker6295
      @sterlingfelker6295 6 років тому +4

      I haven't played Destiny since starting Warframe. Thanks for the Review SkillUp

  • @Vara01858
    @Vara01858 6 років тому +69

    Well this DLC really is a curse.

  • @LOLkatz-jq9dg
    @LOLkatz-jq9dg 6 років тому +21

    Although it pains me to say this, I cant help but agree. I was not a year 1 destiny player. Heck, I wasn’t even year 2. I bought the collection in January. But I played it. And played it. I became obsessed with the game. After maxing out 2 characters and moving on to my third, I still wasn’t bored and was loving it. There was just something that kept me coming back. And when I learned about destiny 2 and how I could share the experience of a new destiny with everyone, I was overjoyed. But now, sitting here, I find it painful to even get on. Sometimes, if none of my friends are playing, I won’t even get on. The game that had once inspired me and gave an escape to another world is now nothing more than a bland money pit that just keeps digging itself into a deeper hole. I’ve tried to hang on. Out of all my friends, I’m the only one who still played because I had hope. Hope in a developer that had delivered me the greatest gaming experience in my life, with memories that I will cherish forever. Hope that this game could rise from the ashes and blow everyone away. And everyone was blown away. No one could believe it when bungie handed us back our hope, beaten and betrayed with a $20 price tag and the title, “The Curse of Osiris”.

  • @demongrenade2748
    @demongrenade2748 6 років тому +55

    I think people need to remember that the majority of the lead developers at bungie who made the halo series no longer work at bungie. The Talent behind one of the greatest shooters ever made hasn't been at bungie for a quite awhile now. This isn't a company thats worth your time now.

    • @alohamark3025
      @alohamark3025 6 років тому

      And that is the conundrum faced by every gaming studio, sooner or later. Software developers write in unique styles. They put together programs with hundreds of branches, that have to execute in real time. The people at Bungie now are still learning what the previous group of programmers did. Give 'em a few more years, and who knows? Maybe they can figure out the arcane ways of the past ... or, they could be so befuddled, that they never fully learn the system. Right now, I call this a maintenance release off of Destiny 1. Be happy the program does not crash or go into an infinite loop. I have seen worse disasters in my experience. I'm not saying that you or anyone else should be patient. But, Skillup is not a coder. Those who do not understand software do not realize that this is all part of the PROCESS.

    • @fishworshipper
      @fishworshipper 6 років тому +9

      These aren’t coding issues at all, though. Having any knowledge of coding isn’t necessary or even helpful for contextualizing these issues. The problem is in the principles and priorities that were taken during development - loot boxes took a higher priority than basic, quality game design.

    • @meru8348
      @meru8348 5 років тому +2

      Play warframe I wouldn't worry about the warframe devs going greedy cuz a year ago when animal allies came out they added a rolling system for money and they saw that they it was being used to much so they took it out made the allies farmable and gave refunds removing the gambling machine within 3 days and then said the reason they removed this slot machine that was making them a lot of money was that and I quote "They didn't want to make money That Way!" If that isn't an insensitive to play idk what is

  • @TawkohFoReal
    @TawkohFoReal 6 років тому +211

    Bungie broke me, I had so much faith, I had put money in this, and I thought I would never say this, but I quit Destiny 2, I am out, peace.

    • @TawkohFoReal
      @TawkohFoReal 6 років тому +1

      just wish this game would stop popping up in my recommended videos, sick of it.

    • @f5prototype748
      @f5prototype748 6 років тому +5

      Perseus One yeah we put way too much faith in bungie and we all got fucked. Il l’admit i spent 100 fucking bucks into this game and I regret it so much

    • @TawkohFoReal
      @TawkohFoReal 6 років тому

      Price tags

    • @ferasnj5769
      @ferasnj5769 6 років тому

      try warframe and imagine the money u payed on d2 was payed for a better version of d2 that is free to play on steam.

    • @TawkohFoReal
      @TawkohFoReal 6 років тому +4

      im playing warframe now, its great.

  • @DSRJoker
    @DSRJoker 6 років тому +439

    A lore rant for a moment if I might:
    I think it's becoming more and more clear, that the bulk of the storytelling in Destiny 1, via the lore, was, if not outright created by Joseph Staten, overseen by him. Given that the Dreadnought was to appear in Destiny 1 vanilla then its safe to assume that a large portion of the lore explaining the hive, and Oryx, was also created prior to the reboot. That important because there's a noticeable drop in quality of the Rise of Iron Lore. It goes from large mind-blowing concepts to small interpersonal interactions. There's also a lot of inconsistencies within the RoI lore, I always attributed this to the quick turn around on the project. Now it seems that whoever is in charge of writing is either incompetent, or they just don't care. Look at Brother Vance, A guy who was this Blind Soothsayer, who like Eris seems to have lost his Ghost and his eyesight. He now served as an emissary to the Queen for Osiris, and Hosted the Trials of Osiris. Now we get someone who is, what the adoring fan from oblivion, and a lore entry that reads so painfully like it’s a last minute retcon.
    And you know where you find that lore entry? On the Machina Dei 4… As if to COMPLETELY miss the point of having a Strangers Rifle like weapon return to Destiny. There’s only 2 technically 3 places that model has ever been used. The Stranger Rifle and No Time To Explain, (the Fate of All Fools was never released.) They don’t use this opportunity to expand on that lore, no they just use it to retcon Bother Vance’s status as a warlock.
    This is the textbook definition of missing the point.
    The quality of the lore integration into Destiny has been slipping ever further into; Karen-Only-3-Million-Storm-Troopers-Traviss’s character assassination of Dr. Catherine Halsey from Halo, levels of bad.
    This is like Shaxx calling us Young Wolf and then Lord Saladin treating us like we’ve never seen one another before. This is like Osiris somehow reading the Book of Sorrow, but not knowing who we are. It ludicrously bad writing being perpetrated by someone who doesn’t understand the universe or doesn’t care.

    • @MartyMacFry
      @MartyMacFry 6 років тому +31

      You know what the craziest/worst part of this is? This game has an honest to God writing staff. I think it's like 6 people. 6 people are paid probably decent wages to write B-movie level dialogue (we're not so different you and I) and to forget and mess up their own lore. IMO this is why gaming costs are blowing up, incompetent hiring bloat.

    • @GrassH0pper55
      @GrassH0pper55 6 років тому +14

      Darkside Royalty Lore When's your curse of Osiris review coming?

    • @MajorasLullaby
      @MajorasLullaby 6 років тому +5

      Darkside Royalty Lore bro what about the black triangles we saw at the end of d2? What is this? They don't even bother to go in depth with the lore.

    • @Stealth-ve7nw
      @Stealth-ve7nw 6 років тому +3

      Darkside Royalty Lore hey I know this guy . 👍🏽

    • @AIZENTHEFILTHYCASUAL
      @AIZENTHEFILTHYCASUAL 6 років тому +3

      Joooookkkkeeerrr

  • @aidanwj
    @aidanwj 6 років тому +46

    People who defend these business practices are solely responsible for why gaming is such a shit show in the first place

    • @cookytrix
      @cookytrix 4 роки тому

      exactly. sucking a companies dick usually gives them ego problems.

    • @reoden7546
      @reoden7546 2 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't agree they are "solely" responsible, the devs and publishers that keep quite willfully testing the limits of what amount of BS they can get away with have their fair share of blame in my view. But yes the relentless fanboys do have their blame also.

  • @cosmosofinfinity
    @cosmosofinfinity 5 років тому +18

    Thumbnail of this and IHE's video: "I'm done with Destiny 2"
    *Both proceed to review Forsaken*

    • @reoden7546
      @reoden7546 2 роки тому

      And probably both were glad they did. lol

  • @cancersfinalform299
    @cancersfinalform299 6 років тому +133

    That clip of the old Bungie made me really sad. That's who Bungie used to be. Amazing game developers who set the standard and stage for first person shooters. Now Bungie has been replaced by Activision lackeys who are borderline IRS agents. Most if not all of the original Bungie members who made Halo what it was have left. Now Bungie is a just a rotting corpse.

  • @thenamesfable8257
    @thenamesfable8257 6 років тому +71

    As a developer when you turn a diehard angelic fanbase(myself over 2000+ hours in this franchise) into a resentful and disappointment fueled hate mob with a "sequel" and then continue to move back wards despite 4 years worth of chances... You can't honestly look me in the eyes and say "I give a fuck"

    • @slaughterin-allbbnb8766
      @slaughterin-allbbnb8766 6 років тому +10

      FightNight D2 is literally nothing more than Bungie saying “ we give zero fucks about our game or community “ , “ but please throw as much undeserved money at us as possible please “

    • @seandlax9
      @seandlax9 6 років тому +3

      Destiny has ALWAYS had one of the whiniest, knee-jerk, and entitled fan bases in gaming. It's no mystery why Bungie doesn't really listen to it.
      Destiny is going nowhere. People will whine and bitch until the next major expansion, all will be peachy again, and all these streamers claiming to "be done" will return in droves like nothing happened.

    • @Lathander81
      @Lathander81 6 років тому +2

      I agree Sean...so much complaining for all these years. If you are really disappointed then just stop playing it. Pour your time into a game that actually gives a fuck about its player base. Dont complain then go buy the game...its quite silly.

    • @y2kplus9
      @y2kplus9 6 років тому

      Well said Sean M and Lathander81. The game won't die because people keep going back to it like fucking drug addicts...

  • @BYUBOY33
    @BYUBOY33 6 років тому +41

    They keep doing this shit but y'all keep running back to them and giving them your money. If you are really done then be done for real. It took me a month to be done.....took you all this time? How?

    • @adityakumar-qq7si
      @adityakumar-qq7si 5 років тому

      They will never be done cause negativity makes much better video topic and most gamers are just hypocrite who love pretending to be mighty and high while they are just a bunch of weak will people who love hiding from confrontation and complaining from their comfort.

  • @oggelicious2716
    @oggelicious2716 6 років тому +49

    I don't really understand, if you want beautiful space loot-shooter with near infinite grind and superb gameplay with probably the best community in the gaming world , then play Warframe. Why would you ever choose Destiny over Warframe?

    • @Outplayedqt
      @Outplayedqt 5 років тому

      RNGesus, Holy Saint of RNG wow I never thought of it that way but that’s 100% how it feels to play both games. I guess gunplay matters a bit more because I can’t enjoy Warframe whatsoever anymore while I still log into D2 once in a while

    • @w3ghe711
      @w3ghe711 4 роки тому +3

      I honestly think the gunplay is better in D2
      Also the art direction and music are way better in D2 imo

    • @shizukousapostle1stapostle710
      @shizukousapostle1stapostle710 4 роки тому +2

      @@w3ghe711 melee is better in warframe, all the frames are unique with unique skills, weapons feel different from each other... And the main reason why I prefer WF over Destiny is the freedom and fluidity of movement that WF have

    • @mrgeneralism
      @mrgeneralism 4 роки тому +2

      Destiny’s world, systems, mechanics and overall design is intoxicating. Warframe often feels far too difficult to get into without an obvious example of what is so fun or great about it, but when I load up Destiny I get a completely different feel. I feel overwhelmed, but in a good way. I want to learn what to do, I want to grind, I want to further my progression meaningfully so that I can continue to earn guns that will shake up my play style and give me further reason to do harder content.
      Destiny is everything I’ve wanted from World of Warcraft for a long time. It is fun and entrapping myself into the grind in a way that I can’t enjoy in Warframe.
      Warframe is a game. Destiny is an experience.

    • @DarkyBlondy
      @DarkyBlondy 4 роки тому +1

      MrGeneralism reverse your last sentence 😉

  • @Orcen222
    @Orcen222 6 років тому +51

    "We have so much story I dont have time to tell you how much story we have" - Destiny 2
    "locking content you already paid for behind a pay wall with DLC? We did that in Destiny already, you guys should be used to it by now" - Bungie

    • @Sedlan18
      @Sedlan18 6 років тому +2

      Orcen222 "Even I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain"
      That stupid quote from destiny sums up Bungie's whole attitude.
      They don't need to Justify their content as long as they keep giving their fans fake expectations about "future improvement" and keep buying their crap.

  • @jordangreen7567
    @jordangreen7567 6 років тому +182

    IT'S OVER DESTINY I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!!!!

    • @Sirgreen57
      @Sirgreen57 6 років тому +17

      You underestimate my powe- *dies*

    • @bran10657
      @bran10657 6 років тому +16

      It was said you would destroy the Bad Games not join them!

    • @holyflame2
      @holyflame2 6 років тому +11

      You were like a brother to me Destiny... I loved you!...

    • @alovesaandn
      @alovesaandn 6 років тому +5

      Holyflame bungee "I hate you"

    • @libertyprimus756
      @libertyprimus756 6 років тому +11

      You where the chosen one you where supposed to destroy ea not join them

  • @The_Wailing_Doom
    @The_Wailing_Doom 2 роки тому +26

    New player here in 2022 watching all Skill Up's old Destiny 2 videos because he speaks highly of the game these days. The game is so good now. Bungie turned the ship around with the help of folks like Skill Up providing thoughtful constructive criticism.

    • @anuragj8025
      @anuragj8025 2 роки тому +3

      Dude single handedly made me try Destiny 2 with his Season of chosen and Splicer reviews. Been playing the game ever since!

  • @imahappy946
    @imahappy946 6 років тому +88

    Hi Skill up... well here I am three months later... after what, after I watched your Warframe vid and gave it a try. I struggled at first but was enticed back to Warframe a couple times... Now 330 hours in, I went back to D2 for the DLC... and it IS SHIIIIITT!!! Absolutely boring AF!! My mates are kinda pissed at me, and give me shit for the 200 beans I've dropped on WF so far, but you know what??? IDC. Warframe keeps giving. Even if It doesnt look as good - My analogy is this... Destiny 2 is that really good looking girl that stirs your pants up something crazy, but after living with her for a couple months you start to... think lol.
    Warframe is the girl that might not look AS good, but is real pretty in her own right... and most important of all, you can ACTUALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER.
    So, yep. Another convert. D2 is piss boring jump to box to box shit enemy shooter.... Warframe... lol, go spend some time with her. She's a bit much at first, and she's not perfect, but as you get to know her, as oppossed to D2, you're gonna find some real depth.
    P.S. I jacked my wife's account to write this. Sneakshow - PS4

    • @Ninja7546
      @Ninja7546 6 років тому +5

      Ima Happy I actually like the graphics on Warframe, they have a really nice art style. Their assets are colourful and original. Plus they do update the engine.

    • @Quole1234
      @Quole1234 6 років тому +1

      I disagree on the looks. I think WF looks better.

    • @GilgameshD20
      @GilgameshD20 6 років тому

      Oh yes don't forget the higher frame rate that wf has on all platforms while d2 is still 30 fps on console and 60 fps on PC

  • @AGH69
    @AGH69 6 років тому +67

    I think you summed it up best when you said "Fuck those guys".

  • @freerun1207
    @freerun1207 6 років тому +58

    Perhaps it’s time to hang our heads and realize destiny is just not worth it anymore.

    • @ijustwantmyphonecall6947
      @ijustwantmyphonecall6947 6 років тому +5

      Adam Deschaine Lmao, I realized Destiny wasn't worth it anymore when I played that trash ass beta. I told people time and time again this game would just be casualized trash with nothing near the potential the first game had. I told people Bungie was not going to listen to the community and I told them they would CONTINUE with these shitty buisness practices. What did I get in response? Crucified by the Destiny community, banned from streams, and told I was wrong. Well, glad to see you guys finally grew some damn brain cells.

    • @Youre_Donee
      @Youre_Donee 6 років тому +2

      I just want my phone call I feel ya bud these Fanboys are like talking to bunch of mindless sheep. Tbh I stopped playing destiny after the the house of wolves in the first game. I've lost interest of grinding and I didn't want to do the taken king and still have no interest. This game is a job that waste your time and money and for what. The game is gonna die out with the next year and not matter like the first one.

    • @Captdrax
      @Captdrax 6 років тому

      Adam Deschaine or ripe off of halo gay from day 1 just stupid people liked it

  • @MrMetsMeeseek
    @MrMetsMeeseek Рік тому +3

    Feels good to say, in 2023 I’m loving what Destiny has become and I’m having really good fun and am addicted again.

  • @lancehalo7256
    @lancehalo7256 2 роки тому +24

    It’s strange to look back and see how far this game has come. From poor beginnings to a bright future. Ha, I’m amazed at how much this game has changed upon release. Beyond Light really was the next evolution, and it’s been an amazing game as of the last year. I’m glad that this game finally grew into its own, and thank god it has. Onto Witch Queen, and a bright future

    • @mattwiper
      @mattwiper Рік тому +1

      Still has its issues but it feels alot like D1 at this point which I think is great

    • @po-fc9bn
      @po-fc9bn Рік тому +1

      @@mattwiper it's been miles ahead of D1 since forsaken dropped

    • @Dead8Head
      @Dead8Head 7 місяців тому +1

      Oh how this aged well

  • @frankieb9444
    @frankieb9444 6 років тому +94

    Loving the food analogies, the one I use for the uninitiated is: You order a $30 meal and they take the baked potato from your plate halfway through your meal then tell you that you need to pay $10 more dollars to get it back.

    • @saber-jocky3436
      @saber-jocky3436 6 років тому +13

      $15 if you want butter, sour cream, and chives.

    • @sinocboy
      @sinocboy 6 років тому

      15 more for extra bacon or chill

    • @imahappy946
      @imahappy946 6 років тому

      Wait.... WHO"S taking my potato??? Show me an I'll...

  • @ecap6776
    @ecap6776 6 років тому +490

    Respect to you SkillUp, you made a mistake in standing behind the game, but then you swallowed your pride, and put time and effort into making another great, well constructed video in admittance that you were wrong, and that you were moving on because gamers dont deserve what Bungie is trying to hand out.

    • @corylyonsmusic
      @corylyonsmusic 6 років тому +10

      Ecap D1 was actually great by year 2 and through year 3...D2 is an obvious cash grab in every aspect and that is why our hardcore crowd is all pissed...all content in this game is locked behind pay walls now and they wonder why we are all pissed and quitting

    • @imaroughgempdx
      @imaroughgempdx 6 років тому +2

      I only got to play D1 about 2 years in and it was just as vapid and boring to me as this release. In both cases I constantly feel like I am playing an MMO by myself.

    • @StaySqueezy12
      @StaySqueezy12 6 років тому +11

      He stood by Destiny 1 which most Destiny fans do but Destiny has been a disappointment. No one hates Destiny 2 more than Destiny fans believe me lol

    • @mychaeldark1007
      @mychaeldark1007 6 років тому +3

      As a day 1 year 1 D1 player, year 2 was absolute shit. I didn't even finish the Taken King before I dropped the game in the garbage. Bungie was screwing over the players even then, but few people wanted to see it.

    • @bodopeters1835
      @bodopeters1835 6 років тому +2

      Maybe there is actual progress to be had with consumer conscience in the video game industry. Personally I am still skeptical as I am sure that SkillUp is much more analytical and self-aware than other Destiny (or nearly any AAA-title) players and therefore would rather correct his own attitude than engaging in the pathologically aggressive form of ignorance that Im sure everybody around here has experienced.
      Maybe Destiny 3 will be a flop if its ever released, but honestly people will instead just buy the next premium scam that had enough cash sunk into its marketing. Because apparently, looks, trends and eloquent slogans are what people want to base their consuming decisions on and not quality, depth or originality. That attitude is why it could even come to this and it is the katalyst for what AAA-games wil be in the future.

  • @MRNOLOOTBOX
    @MRNOLOOTBOX 6 років тому +184

    #REMOVEEVERVERSE

  • @drakelx
    @drakelx 6 років тому

    Oh man Ralph I don’t know if you’d be reading this, but I really appreciate you adding those Vidoc clips at the start and end of the video, especially the ones at the end since I actually remember watching them.
    I’ve started being more apathetic about Destiny 2. Like I knew I was disappointed in the game, though it felt like something distant. But watching that last Vidoc clip made me remember myself watching the clip for the first time in 2013 and feeling so much awe and hype for what Bungie was going to do next after Halo. At first I just felt nostalgic and happy to remember the Vidoc. But at the same time it made me realise just how far Bungie has fallen. That Vidoc presented so much ambition and hope for what Destiny would become and how different it would be. That’s a far cry from the Bungie today allegedly saying that they can’t keep up with the pace of making content for D2. My goodness has things changed.
    At this point I’m no longer apathetic or even angry at Bungie for what happened to Destiny 2. I’m just disappointed. :/ Thanks for the trip down memory lane though Ralph!

  • @darealmephiles
    @darealmephiles 6 років тому +84

    Im Proud of you SkillUp....

    • @lunebadru5997
      @lunebadru5997 6 років тому +1

      Yes. You and the others who left this shit community and game series deserve bettet

  • @chrisd7805
    @chrisd7805 6 років тому +55

    I remember watching an old video of bungies where they said first we make the area fun, then we make it beautiful. I miss that Bungie.

    • @comingtoterms2471
      @comingtoterms2471 6 років тому +4

      Chris D there are different ppl at bungie not the same ones anynore

    • @blazingblizzard-6894
      @blazingblizzard-6894 6 років тому +1

      Now it’s beautiful, and fun is a luck based extra

    • @DrakesdenChannel
      @DrakesdenChannel 6 років тому +1

      Kevin Hughes ILITALIANWOND3R It may be shiny, but it's damn bland.

  • @kbarrettoh
    @kbarrettoh Рік тому +4

    I wish I could get over how this first year made me feel. I still play this game and consistently look back at how dark this time was. I’m still not back on team Bungie the way I was in D1 years.

    • @DarthDookieMan
      @DarthDookieMan 11 місяців тому

      I don’t think that we are back to those dark time at all quite yet, but I’m curious on your thoughts on recent things.

  • @Chris-ri9gc
    @Chris-ri9gc 6 років тому +13

    i bought the full game + season pass (collectors digital edition) r.i.p me. i really had faith in this game that it would improve. it shocks me how far back they can take their content. For instance, all the features that we had at the end of destiny 1, was stripped and given back to us in destiny 2 behind payed walls, which is a complete and utter poor attempt to keeping this game alive. I was a hardcore fan of destiny, had about 1500 hours clocked in, in the original game up until the end of year 3.
    We are now here in destiny 2, the first dlc. I am extremely disappointed in the way bungie as upheld the integrity and i will no longer support a greedy company that only ask for forgiveness when they themselves know that they have fucked up due to their attempt to in a sense, scam us for more money through a marketing attempt that was poorly made. i refuse to support a company that took my best intentions and utterly crushed them through monetisation and pay walls.
    Bungie, you have disappointed the community for the last time. No matter what you do past this point, the community will remember. I highly suggest that you refund all copies of the game (dlcs included) and to release the content for FREE as you promised so long ago (this was before even Destiny 1 was released, where they stated in an interview that all updates and content updates would be free. [no i am not going to look for an interview link, look for it yourself]). This was a complete and utter waste of time. How dare you look at your fan base as money wallets as if everybody who plays the game is able to fork out money. How dare you take away content and lock it behind a pay wall.
    I am extremely appalled by the way the company has upheld their stature.
    Myself, and others within the community will no longer stand for your bullshit.

    • @ash_man_0416
      @ash_man_0416 6 років тому

      saym

    • @andrewrchooven1996
      @andrewrchooven1996 6 років тому

      I don't blame you. Destiny 1 kept getting better and better so there was no reason not to trust Bungie with Destiny 2. I bought the digital deluxe... And never have I regretted spending money before on a game.

    • @tosgys2097
      @tosgys2097 5 років тому

      God you sound like a fucking bitch

  • @stealthhunter6998
    @stealthhunter6998 6 років тому +173

    I feel sorry for the artists just because they create all these cool things then the story team and Activision like to split the story to crap and dont try hard enough.

    • @CrazyMonkeyProd
      @CrazyMonkeyProd 6 років тому +10

      TheDestroyer989 So true! There are so many great artists and coders working on this game. Their work is being disrespected by their employers at a constant rate.

    • @danielgageandrews1671
      @danielgageandrews1671 6 років тому +6

      I agree! The artists, coders and composers do such a great job just to be brought down with the decisions of their employers!

    • @TheBoomh
      @TheBoomh 6 років тому +1

      Agreed. 99% of the time the DLC that's Bungie's pushing out now is content that's already finished (and should've been included in the base game).

    • @sinotheawoken9812
      @sinotheawoken9812 6 років тому

      TheDestroyer989 the game looks cool but honestly the weapons and armor are nowhere near as destiny 1... they are mostly reskins and if not they are ugly

    • @stealthhunter6998
      @stealthhunter6998 6 років тому

      W97Sin0 / Mistergerman I agree with some of that statement especially when u look at the eater of worlds gear!

  • @nofatigue1345
    @nofatigue1345 6 років тому +28

    What plagues Destiny is way deeper than loot and economy. The people behind this game are not in it to please they are in it for greed. Point blank period

    • @lordfarquad8913
      @lordfarquad8913 6 років тому

      Halofanboy912 it is dead

    • @Alphenex
      @Alphenex 6 років тому

      Elder Maxson - until the next expansion like taken king where it’s another part of the original game and people buy back in, then that has its own season pass dlc which is terrible and people get locked out and upset again until another expansion you have to pay full price game for, but hey they include everything you already purchased so that makes it worth it. People like the first game will go back because of these big expansions and even buy the season passes to them, essentially destiny 1 sold you 1 game separated into 3 with 3 season passes added to them, all by pulling apart 1 game and 1 good season pass, and it worked people bought it so why wouldn’t they do it again and add loot boxes to make more, hell if people were willing to accept those practices of course they would think it’s ok to continue to push the limits.

  • @maskoblackfyre
    @maskoblackfyre Рік тому +2

    Oh man, the memories.
    Remember "The Infinite Forest"? Remember "two primaries"? Remember "The farm"? Static rolls on legendary weapons? Horribly long ability cooldowns? 4v4 only?
    Damn, this game was such a huge disaster when it launched, but it's grown so much since. It only looks the same, but is in fact not even the same game anymore.
    Like, every decision Bungo made for D2, from the marketing, to the story and the sandbox was completely and utterly wrong.
    But looking at what the game was like in Y1 and comparing it to today (Season of the Seraph, less than 2 weeks away from Lightfall) I can't help but feel happy and proud of how my favorite -addiction - game of all time... yes I know, I love many a game franchise but none of them are or ever will be Destiny. That's just a fact... I'm just happy to see this game and franchise grow from what it initially released as to what it is today.
    Forsaken was the turning point, the big change Destiny 2 needed. But Shadowkeep was the real game changer, because it introduced seasons and champions.

  • @01234567891011121338
    @01234567891011121338 6 років тому

    I actually just saw a comment from you on The Late Night Show with Steven Colbert comment section. Saw a check next to your name and thought I would check you out. Glad I did. I am always looking for more gaming reviews and news on UA-cam and so far I'm enjoying your content. You just earned yourself a subscriber.

  • @jarodkestal6005
    @jarodkestal6005 6 років тому +170

    the funny thing about panoptes he looks like a vex reskin of oryx

    • @MelAncholynus
      @MelAncholynus 6 років тому +4

      Marcus Adamcik and the raid lair boss looks like a reskin of panoptes... Just this robotic, triangular floating ribcage

    • @colinboxall9782
      @colinboxall9782 6 років тому

      Marcus Adamcik Because he is, they have the same animations 😂😂😂

    • @mohammedjawahri5726
      @mohammedjawahri5726 6 років тому

      Marcus Adamcik it's the same rig trust me,im not saying it's lazy or offensive ,but considering they barely just change the models at most ,we should be seeing TONS of panoptes level reskins every expansion

    • @felixluna4184
      @felixluna4184 6 років тому

      Marcus Adamcik a destiny fanboy " but ooh golly gee destiny a whole new game how is that even possible. O golly even tho d1 has d2 has same glitches no they would never be the same gamw

    • @jeremiahtrotter1687
      @jeremiahtrotter1687 6 років тому

      All these visual comparisons are so dumb. None of these characters look like reskins of each other. He looks like a robotic scorpion.

  • @richiemylove5825
    @richiemylove5825 6 років тому +140

    People who keep saying “but the dark below dlc was bad too! And they kept getting better after that!” Wtf does that even mean, they were supposed to learn from destiny 1, please stop using that as a point

    • @brygulligan347
      @brygulligan347 6 років тому +3

      Atleast TDB had a new raid

    • @richiemylove5825
      @richiemylove5825 6 років тому +1

      Matt S i agree with you

    • @richiemylove5825
      @richiemylove5825 6 років тому +1

      HanMan 77 the raid they added with coo is actually pretty fun, even tho its not a new new raid, still probably the best part of the expansion

    • @morganlowder51
      @morganlowder51 6 років тому +2

      At least the dark below was more fun...imo.

    • @LadyBlaidd
      @LadyBlaidd 6 років тому +1

      We got D1 after Dark Below. We loved it even with some problems. Met some amazing guardians one who became my best friend. And we could play with another friend even though he didnt have the DLC he still had end game to do. Strikes, Crucible and Nightfalls etc

  • @nani8127
    @nani8127 6 років тому +2

    This is the first video of yours that I ever watched and I have to say it is absolute perfection. You are clearly a person who puts time and effort into his videos and has a true passion for gaming that I feel is sorely lacking in other channels on youtube. No matter what you do please stay true to your passion and continue to deliver your honest opinion as you displayed here. I'm glad that you are the first person whose channel I have ever left a comment on because you have earned my respect as a fellow gamer.

  • @RJ-qm1gi
    @RJ-qm1gi 6 років тому

    Hi everyone, I bought destiny about a couple weeks ago for $3 at GameStop. The last planet I unlocked is Mars, are there no other places to unlock before buying dlc, besides how do I know when I even complete the main story??

  • @dragonsoul_rjf8525
    @dragonsoul_rjf8525 6 років тому +149

    I´m really sorry for all the Destiny fans.
    I hope you all find something new to do.

    • @nahueltabarez8889
      @nahueltabarez8889 6 років тому +4

      DragonSoul _RJF im enjoying the game tho

    • @ivanpabon2741
      @ivanpabon2741 6 років тому +18

      Play warframe

    • @asianguywithacamera
      @asianguywithacamera 6 років тому +10

      I've been playing Warframe since August and loving it. It blows D2 out of the water in terms of customization in the weapon and mod system. The game does have a grind but the time investment makes you feel powerful, one important aspect that D2 definitely is lacking. Bungie doesn't want us to feel powerful. Orb generation is lower, ability refresh is slower, guns are for the most part dull and boring. I pre-purchased the DLC with the season pass and I haven't bothered playing CoO. There's no point, unfortunately.

    • @closimac6121
      @closimac6121 6 років тому +2

      Anthem looks good

    • @NcrXnbi
      @NcrXnbi 6 років тому +17

      +ProximaC
      Anthem = EA
      Mmmm.... No thanks.

  • @llElLoboll
    @llElLoboll 6 років тому +308

    I'm so happy I passed on getting D2. I spent a lot of time on D1 but got tired of reskinned content, unusable nerfed exotics, and various other issues. I moved on to Elder Scrolls Online and haven't looked back. Would love to see you do a review video about ESO btw.

    • @bzrkai2367
      @bzrkai2367 6 років тому +8

      ll El Lobo ll same eso was trash at launch but now it is an amazing mmorpg. I have like 800 hours

    • @llElLoboll
      @llElLoboll 6 років тому +2

      Im Bzrk lol I've only been playing a little over a year but have had a blast. I think it's a very underrated game.

    • @llElLoboll
      @llElLoboll 6 років тому +3

      Pyromania23 I don't think anyone could have predicted this outcome. I waited just because I hated how D1 was managed and lucked out.

    • @LittleLightIsaOnce
      @LittleLightIsaOnce 6 років тому +4

      d1 is a master piece compared to this new shit

    • @maxw4988
      @maxw4988 6 років тому +1

      ESO worth getting into?

  • @lordchimpington87
    @lordchimpington87 6 років тому

    I really want to play destiny on pc, but don’t want to get d2. Anyone know what I should do?

  • @PatrickMullenDrums
    @PatrickMullenDrums 6 років тому

    as it approaches to christmas, i'm wondering now if the new DLC is worth my money that i will get for gifts, if all i get is the re used tech demos. whaddya think then, this new DLC worth my christmas money?

  • @Legend-gu6yp
    @Legend-gu6yp 6 років тому +67

    D1 was sold on bungies name alone. What are they going to do after activisions done bending them over?

    • @devilgames2217
      @devilgames2217 6 років тому

      Legend777 ride them? 🤔

    • @BlakeTheEmperor99
      @BlakeTheEmperor99 6 років тому +1

      Sex tent?

    • @Ghettojaku
      @Ghettojaku 6 років тому

      Legend777 blow them until their dick bleeds

    • @hurrhurrmurr
      @hurrhurrmurr 6 років тому +8

      Go out of business, hopefully. Bungie have missed out on all of their targets so far set by Activision to make a well-received game (Bungie were due million dollar bonuse for well rated games). A $500m investment for a game that is basically a $1m effort. I can imagine handlers at Activision will be seething because a bad game, with bad sales and a dwindlng playerbase that does not want to spend more on microtransactions does not bode well with such a large investment. CoDWW2 and Overwatch sit quite comfortably. Destiny is a huge fuckup and may as well be bleedng money considering how much has been invested.
      Luke Smith and Mark Noseworthy can't design a game for shit; they took the complaints about D1's systems the wrong way and gave us boring worthless shit like the kinetic, energy, heavy weapons system, shitty movement, fixed perks and 4v4 only PvP. ME Chung is in charge of the most anti-social, social game because she can't get over the past. And Christine Thompson writes stories that are so 'on the nose' and filled with exposition over character development that the stories are not compelling or interesting at all. Destiny 1 at least had a wealth of background lore to support the lack of story. D2 has nothing. A lot of Bungie's project leads are hacks.
      Nu-Bungie is completely diffrerent from the Bungie of old. The staff I mentioned, and more, rode on the goodwill created by people like Joe Staten and Marty O'Donnell.

    • @lc9377
      @lc9377 6 років тому

      true

  • @TanneMalm
    @TanneMalm 6 років тому +183

    I feel exactly the same way. I’ve put 3 years into this game and I’ve always given bungie more time because I trusted their vision.
    But now it feels like they’ve betrayed me, a year one player... I’m out bungie, enough is enough. I’m so disappointed in you.

    • @ryanbarker3978
      @ryanbarker3978 6 років тому +3

      Same here. Over 1000 hours in Destiny 1, and I haven't even cleared the Leviathan raid more than once or gone flawless in Trails of the Nine. Kept investing in Destiny 1 because the game kept getting better - Post April Update meta was the highlight of my Destiny PVP experience, Age of Triumph the highlight of PVE. Destiny 2 is nothing more than a hallowed out shell, stuffed with the greed of corporate scumbags trying to make a quick cash grab. It makes me feel bad for investing money in the first game.

    • @sabalastroboy684
      @sabalastroboy684 6 років тому +1

      I feel the same I bought the season pass to support the company. not to be scammed shet!!

    • @enzudesign
      @enzudesign 6 років тому +2

      Same for me. Year one player. Maxed light every time. All shaders and all emblems .. and then they released Destiny 2 and i didnt get to keep any of it. My grind was pointless. But still i stayed with this game .. i completed the max light. All raids and events etc .. in Destiny 2. Then this dlc was released.. and thats fucking it im done. This game should have been soo good. Shame on you Bungie shame on you.

    • @sineater4467
      @sineater4467 6 років тому +2

      Jonathan Appelgren Westling I've be there since day one as well with destiny 1, I think what we all need to do is get rid of it. If u have a hard copy sell if it's digital delete it. I already deleted mine.

    • @joeyg5957
      @joeyg5957 6 років тому

      Justin Goddard agreed

  • @ericherrero3212
    @ericherrero3212 6 років тому +6

    The halo 2 song at the end killed me

  • @jedi_altaire7856
    @jedi_altaire7856 7 місяців тому +1

    Now all these years later, I bought a discounted destiny 2 bundle with forsaken shadow keep and beyond light. No vanilla destiny 2 except for the initial mission, and that's it. They haven't changed at all.

  • @nexo6461
    @nexo6461 6 років тому +416

    Hey, i just wanted to say that i realy appreciate it that you still read so many comments from old Videos. Its rly suprising too See you responding too a 7 Month old Video! Keep it up!

  • @TheDevilsAdvocate.
    @TheDevilsAdvocate. 6 років тому +103

    Omg he’s seen the light finally.

  • @jonahkohen775
    @jonahkohen775 6 років тому

    Great vid. I'm thinking of buying D1. Is there still an active D1 community for the PS4 as of July 2018?

  • @HalcyonFenix7
    @HalcyonFenix7 6 років тому

    Thanks for this honest review; I have tried really hard to enjoy Destiny 2, putting in effort to try everything before casting judgement, but unfortunately what you say is pretty spot on. The game feels half-finished, the mechanics flawed and/or lacking (looking at you, curated weapons/mod system) and what they put out for Expansion I just doesn't feel like enough. Events obscured by Eververse, realizing that the prophecies are nothing more than exercises in pure grind (oh hello, 1000th chest that may perhaps give a single green radiolarian fluid), and the disappointing overall feel of the Infinite Forest, which had SOOOO much potential (seriously, randomized dunegons would have done wonders for this game's repetitive feel).
    I've come to realize that unlike in D1, I have to find reasons to justify spending the limited gaming time I have investing in Destiny 2. And the feeling that I "need" to get on so I can open another 1000 chests and play the same strikes over and over just doesn't cut it. I wouldn't say I'm out just yet, but perhaps it's time to shelve Destiny for a bit (a la The Division) until it works its issues out.

  • @GenJotsu
    @GenJotsu 6 років тому +16

    "Destiny is shit."
    Destiny2: "Hold my beer."

  • @tmitchell958
    @tmitchell958 6 років тому +108

    The end of the video was kind of heartbreaking to hear the developer say that and now we get this game ;(

    • @Nobl3h3ro
      @Nobl3h3ro 6 років тому +2

      ECHOecho 1225 It truly is. To see the vision of the people behind the original Halos end up as a cash grab title under the now hollow, Bungie team. And it's not any better with the current Halos and 343 industries as well. 2 of my most invested sci fi shooters...one dying before it even bloomed and one that just can't be put to rest

    • @opfor_8876
      @opfor_8876 6 років тому

      ECHOecho 1225 pretty sure activision is not giving them enough development money

    • @SeverSFSs
      @SeverSFSs 6 років тому +3

      Alan Z capital isnt an issue its the fact that theyre trying to make sooo much money with microtransactions that theyre designing the game to specifically exploit the microtransaction system and thus leaving the players left with, not a game, but a trip to the casino. Where you spend real money at a chance for some randomly generated things to pop up on your screen. Games arent about gaming anymore. Its about making money.

  • @mrlilnomad
    @mrlilnomad 6 років тому

    Hey man what’s the song at the end? I know it’s a Halo song but can’t remember which one or what song. I was thinking Halo 2 but notnaur

  • @danielh9212
    @danielh9212 6 років тому

    I originally picked up Destiny 1 right at The Taken King expansion with the intention of only playing the pvp every once in awhile just for fun, and literally leveled my first character solely through pvp bounties and I enjoyed it. Then I met people that got me into the pve and it was fun. The story, while not very consistent was interesting to me, and then I started to notice the flavor txt on guns and armor and then I started connecting these scattered pieces of lore and reading the grimmoire cards ( the books of sorrow being my favorite peices overall, it's overwhelmingly epic when you think about Oryx's journey to obtain power and the connections with the worms and ahamkara) and after that I was sucked into the world and enjoyed everything about the game 100x what I was initially expecting after hearing such bad things about the game. You bring up the black spindle quest and I have to say that it was my favorite thing I've ever done, completing it with just one other person and not a full fire team was incredibly challenging for me and when I received the spindle ( which became my favorite gun in the game, even using it in pvp over "meta" snipers) I also got the rare ship drop and I was extactic, and Practically solo-ing a nightfall while carrying my lvl 12 friend, these are all very memorable experiences for me, and as a result I developed a strong bond with the game, as silly as it sounds, but EVERY bit of this experience is non existent in Destiny 2, and it makes me sad. I had asked for Destiny 2 and it's season pass as a gift, because I was so excited for more and better destiny content. Now I feel so bad about Destiny 2 that I feel compelled to give that person their money back. Such wasted potential. Anyways sorry anyone who takes the time to read this rant and I may end up deleting this out of social anxiety, but fuck I dug the shit out of Destiny 1 and thought I'd share my 2 cents for once.

  • @kenzor389
    @kenzor389 6 років тому +177

    Lets be honest, they arent going to change until enough people actually stop purchasing their games/DLC. As long as theyre still earning millions and the player base is in the millions, this is what we've got. Ive done my bit by not buying Curse of Osiris after being a true destile for 3 years, Im not going to support this company until they change, have you done your bit?

    • @jamescarter4307
      @jamescarter4307 6 років тому +1

      Kenzor I stopped after the Oryx DLC then gave Destiny 2 a chance and saw how they playing us like EA has played everyone (before Battlefield 2 came out) a few weeks after release the true data for the EXP came out really disappointed me then to see fucking EA did the same bloody thing with their loot boxes
      I want to beat the shit out of the developers and thank the animators and Artists

    • @lexcent6271
      @lexcent6271 6 років тому +2

      Thus is why i deleted D2 a little over a month, I'm glad I left Destiny and everyone should as well..

    • @joseluissantillanbravo77
      @joseluissantillanbravo77 6 років тому

      I only bought Destiny one when they came up with the complete collection, and i planned on doing the same thing with 2, but now i'm even doubting if it will be worth it then. Only time will tell.

    • @mikerouse6004
      @mikerouse6004 6 років тому

      Kenzor I waited to buy this game and now I won’t buy at all and I will never preorder a game again because of COD Infinite Warfare. Look at Battlefront, look at COD now Bungie too? My console is being used for more old games than new games

    • @mostunique5941
      @mostunique5941 6 років тому

      James Carter Battlefront 2 *

  • @RicharbY
    @RicharbY 6 років тому +22

    Nothing wrong with having faith, but Bungie has mistaken the faith for praise. They've become arrogant because players keep buying their half ass expansions and accepting the mediocrity instead of critiquing it.

  • @Ovaltex
    @Ovaltex 4 роки тому +8

    I still come back and watch this review after years because it was so well done

  • @popkid2395
    @popkid2395 6 років тому

    This is honestly a true review. I also loved Destiny and the lore, and just wanted the lore in the game. Which we got a glimpse of, but not alot. We have saint 14 in the dlc, but he's dead, locked behind a stupid long grind and all we see is his grave. No more information about him. I want character arcs, we see Osiris, but can we see him struggle? Can we see him make a realization? We don't even get to know what that cube thing he used is, or how he got it. In base D2, we go to Nessis and help Ikora go from abandoning everything, to getting her to help out. I want more like that. I want to dive into the creation of the vex, why Osiris left, what has he been doing. Instead we get told about the past a little, told about the future, kill the boss, and we're done. I think it was a perfect opportunity for us to travel back in time with the infinite forest to the battle of six fronts. Fight the fallen, and see how Osiris and Saint 14 helped the city. Go to a future where there is no light, and earth is taken over or destroyed, and everyone has been turned into vex. So much missed opportunity, I can only hope (whatever is left of it) that dlc 2 or the taken king style expansion can fix these problems, but like he said in the video, I don't know if I want to wait again.

  • @adamplebeian5378
    @adamplebeian5378 6 років тому +105

    More like Cost of Osiris amirite

  • @nosleep1271
    @nosleep1271 6 років тому +264

    I jumped in, reached power level 315. Got my Switch in the mail yesterday. Started Breath Of The Wild. The rest is history.

    • @fortris
      @fortris 6 років тому +4

      No Sleep 315 means you bought the DLC lol.

    • @yhwachpoetry4205
      @yhwachpoetry4205 6 років тому

      No Sleep FACTS!!!!!

    • @carelesshornet1-_-477
      @carelesshornet1-_-477 6 років тому +1

      ACTUALLY SAME

    • @JonathanVelez
      @JonathanVelez 6 років тому +6

      Unfortunately some of us purchased the deluxe version. Haven't played the expansion yet and if I hadn't already purchased it I wouldn't be buying it now but you live and you learn.

    • @This1guy956
      @This1guy956 6 років тому +3

      Welcome to a real game @ No Sleep. Breath of the wild is a phenomenal experience 👌

  • @tommcc578
    @tommcc578 6 років тому +38

    I poured over 1000 hours into Destiny one without even playing rise of iron, it's a shame to see such a great franchise that gave me so many memories take such a greedy and dishonest path

    • @narrowstone5363
      @narrowstone5363 6 років тому

      Tom Mccrory Its been on this path for a while now. Just now they arent bothering to hide it

  • @cobaltepsilon1080
    @cobaltepsilon1080 6 років тому +12

    Wait til he hears that "It's too hard to make content"

    • @Zelisius
      @Zelisius 6 років тому +6

      Bungie: "It's too hard to make content!"
      Digital Extremes: "Hold my beer."

    • @chrisrichardson1600
      @chrisrichardson1600 6 років тому +2

      Yeah.. say that to the huge mod community on The Nexus lol

  • @SrBananas
    @SrBananas 6 років тому +46

    I give Destiny 2, 1 Clem out of 10.

    • @muzikxjunkie410
      @muzikxjunkie410 6 років тому +10

      AnbuIce woah, that's too generous imo. Clem deserves more respect than that

    • @KrissDevil1
      @KrissDevil1 6 років тому +5

      But Clem is 11/10...

    • @dallinlambert8004
      @dallinlambert8004 6 років тому +3

      I saw Clem spammed at the Game Awards chat. But who is he?

    • @RiskyWiskyHD
      @RiskyWiskyHD 6 років тому +5

      he is one of the ingame npc that you get to play alongside. HE IS FKING AWESOME!!!.
      For those of you who play warframe. CLEM CARRIED ME IN A SURVIVAL GAME!!. All i did was activate life support from time to time while clem rekt enemies.

    • @alextheloud
      @alextheloud 6 років тому +2

      I'm so proud that warframe has gotten so much publicity despite most video game news outlets ignoring it..
      How did u get carried by klem lmao

  • @bekeex
    @bekeex 6 років тому +83

    This dlc should of been a free patch.

    • @acehighflyer123
      @acehighflyer123 6 років тому +3

      This game just hits me with multiple levels of disappointment, some opinion and some fact. It goes without saying that I will not be waiting in suspense like I did for three years in D1 for all intensive purposes was a complete and good game. How can they honestly expect us to wait 6 years to get good? Then on top of that take away everything we had from Destiny 1 and make us earn it all again.That's a masters degree for god's sake. This serial murder of our content and then held ransom behind pay walls gets really old fast and if we have not learned now we certainly will be learning in the future that this is the form Bungie is using to press and shape their games going forward. If this were EA speak it would be Updates as a Service....LOL

    • @snaketaylor4279
      @snaketaylor4279 6 років тому +5

      Should have*

    • @bekeex
      @bekeex 6 років тому +2

      Jacob Taylor its called quick texting any format goes grammar Nazi.

    • @snaketaylor4279
      @snaketaylor4279 6 років тому

      RyRy XX except the right one apparently O.o

  • @echeaz
    @echeaz 6 років тому +2

    Dude, it would be epic to hear you debate a legally issue within a parliamentary space. Well thought out and passionate. Good form!

  • @DBZPokefreak
    @DBZPokefreak 6 років тому +221

    Agree with you... Leaving Destiny... Was a hardcore fan too just like you...
    Edit : I'm sure everyone who's watching the video and like my comment feel EXACTLY like us... We supported this game for 3 years... Had faith in bungie... Defended it no matter what... Destiny 2 Was supposed to be our redemption which allowed us to tell all those people who we fought against for 3 years, see I told you so... But they've devastated us with this disaster of a sequel.... So now.. It's time to bid adieu... Goodbye Destiny... Thanks for all the memories and the best 3 years of my gaming life :) Hopefully someday you'll become something so amazing that you compell me to return and on that day I WILL return... Till then Goodbye :)

    • @Drawbear11
      @Drawbear11 6 років тому +1

      ok...nice....bye...

    • @shib5267
      @shib5267 6 років тому +18

      Welcome to the Warframe community then

    • @muzikxjunkie410
      @muzikxjunkie410 6 років тому +4

      jose brito heck yeah. We'll take him in with open arms.

    • @DBZPokefreak
      @DBZPokefreak 6 років тому +6

      jose brito I'd be honoured to join after all the good stuff I hear about it :)

    • @cajunrage6918
      @cajunrage6918 6 років тому +4

      DBZPokefreak warframe is 100 times better than d2 and that's coming from a destiny fan download it and watch how it pulls you in

  • @RobertRenton
    @RobertRenton 6 років тому +151

    For me the take away is don't follow developers, just buy good games. I'm not going to stop buying EA games because of Battlefront II, or RockStar because of the monitorisation of GTA V. I'll wait, read the reviews, and then only buy the best games from who ever made them. If half a year down the track the developer has fixed their game I'll even reconsider a game a had already passed on. The thing is, don't be a fanboy. Loyalty is for your friends, not busnesses.

    • @JoshMarshain
      @JoshMarshain 6 років тому +15

      Oh my god, someone with a goddamn head on their shoulders! You hit it right on the nose Robert

    • @isultansultangaliev5852
      @isultansultangaliev5852 6 років тому +2

      Rockstar gives you the best single player city sandbox game in existence, as well as an extremely fun multiplayer version of it with constant updates and an array of new content all of which is achievable in game for free, and you're still not happy. Gaming community in a nutshell.

    • @caboose5287
      @caboose5287 6 років тому +4

      Rockstar is by all means greedy. But at least you get what you pay for.

    • @bobbyboy38
      @bobbyboy38 6 років тому +4

      iSultan Sultangaliev sounds like warframe but you forgot. S H A R K C A R D S

    • @XDarkEcho
      @XDarkEcho 6 років тому

      There is truth in what you say, but even some reviews can be extremely biased. It's hard to tell whether a game will be good or bad at the start, I just go play what interests me, and usually I never regret it. Of course, people need to do research on the games their interested in as well, or they'll end up getting scammed.
      Since, I remember when Destiny 2 came out and the reviews were flooding out, it was all but praise for the game mostly. Then a few weeks later, people began regretting it, and the bashing began. I guess it's just best to wait it out for games in general, unless it's something you generally like.

  • @KurzedMetal
    @KurzedMetal 6 років тому +15

    Dude, Warframe player here just trying to understand what D2 guys are going through with all the commotion around this franchise.
    What you describe in this video is unforgivable (whoever is responsible), you are taking the right decision leaving the game. You can always get back in a few years if they manage fix their mistakes.
    I started playing Warframe on the initial Open Beta, played like a month and then just quit because I didn't like some stuff (mostly the limited revives per day). Just to find an amazing evolved game which have been entertaining me in the last ~2.5 years. Hopefully Destiny can get their shit straight at some point.

    • @lesterramos6468
      @lesterramos6468 6 років тому

      True. Except that unlike Warframe which is an ever-evolving game, the Destiny games are intended to be made into a franchise, it would seem. Assuming Bungie stays it's course, they are simply paying for content patches and updates. Which is a shame because I was interested in Destiny 2. I want to give it a chance despite the bad rep it got. But I took my time, saw the news and I really think that the game will not be worth my time, let alone my money.

  • @lumeronswift
    @lumeronswift 5 років тому +1

    I was really hoping the infinite forest was at least holographic trees - I was looking for anything other than blocks over chasms, which is every other environment in Destiny 2, but I reeeeeeally hoped it was actual trees. It could have been awesome if you had a dark forest to explore and fight in, where you had limited access to map (like Black Desert Online's desert or The Division's dark zones) and anticipating enemy encounters was tricky due to the shade from the canopy. Instead it was a semi-procedural trek through blocky skies again...

  • @PhantomPain74
    @PhantomPain74 6 років тому +331

    100.00%
    I payed for this DLC, and bought the BLOOD AND WINE from THE WITCHER.
    The Bungie DLC is a jocke compare to that DLC.
    The people will leave desriny, them to get back is much harder than repaire D2.

    • @emmett3344
      @emmett3344 6 років тому +6

      PhantomPain74 MZR witcher is such a great of game :)

    • @faisal10fizo
      @faisal10fizo 6 років тому +10

      The witcher 3 is another level.. that level no way to EA or bungie or Ubisoft would reach not even close

    • @astrocyborg
      @astrocyborg 6 років тому +7

      why you comparing a fake rpg aka d2 to a proper rpg the witcher

    • @faisal10fizo
      @faisal10fizo 6 років тому +1

      AstroCyborg you’re right

    • @Psycorde
      @Psycorde 6 років тому +9

      To make something like Blood and Whine you have to actually care about the product you're putting out there, respect your labor and audience. That's the difference.

  • @BlackGoldThunder
    @BlackGoldThunder 6 років тому +31

    The halo music at the end actually got me

    • @rustle495
      @rustle495 6 років тому

      It reminded me strongly about CrowbCat's Bungie vs 343 video, where he basically showed how *old* Bungie was was better in every regard compared to current Halo creators. Seems that it would be quite easy to make a old Bungie vs new Bungie video as well

  • @justjake8393
    @justjake8393 6 років тому +2

    That fuckin restaurant analogy was perfect. That's EXACTLY what's wrong right now. Even McDonalds will treat you properly if they mess up your order. What Bungie, EA, Activision, Bethesda, and others have been doing lately is more like a abusive relationship, treating us like shit, thinking of us as idiots, making us pay the bills, and knowing no matter what they do, that most of us will keep coming back again and again and declaring to everyone who sees the bullshit for what it is... "You guys don't understand, you just don't see them at their best, they're actually really nice and treat me good in private!"

  • @stormcallergaming
    @stormcallergaming 6 років тому +15

    I agree we all should agree

  • @thelucky0239
    @thelucky0239 6 років тому +205

    This video is 100 percent correct. Ive completely walked away from it over night and within a month. This video sums my feelings and i think everyone needs to wake up to what has happened.

    • @lexcent6271
      @lexcent6271 6 років тому +1

      Same, hope more can do the same because money is the only way Activision and bungie may listen. Stop playing d2

    • @cameronfoley8879
      @cameronfoley8879 6 років тому

      Word dog

    • @snooze0023
      @snooze0023 6 років тому

      I 100% disagree. Its a great game.

    • @heldaneurbanus5135
      @heldaneurbanus5135 6 років тому

      I'm sorry you lost something you enjoyed. We're here for you Tenno.

    • @lastconsole
      @lastconsole 6 років тому +2

      Dec 2002, our company was in a statistics pile that proved most dot coms didn’t make it. I was looking forward to some time off and my buddy gifts me an Xbox. I had not put any time into video games since the arcade in high school. The first game we played… Halo: Combat Evolved in split screen co-op. I was amazed (at the time) how far games had come. We spent 6 hours that first night working through the campaign.
      These days, we are separated by several time zones and we have other things in life that take priority, but about twice a month we catch up online and play a game where we both can work towards a few achievements. We’re not hardcore gamers. But we also know when a game is not giving us anything worth our time. We’ve moved on from D2 simply because it’s uninteresting. Osiris was the nail in the coffin. I bought the gold version so am stuck, but I literally finished Osiris just to check the box. Cliche story and trite dialogue.
      Spot on review.

  • @NeutralGravity
    @NeutralGravity 6 років тому +225

    Love the restaurant analogy

    • @imjahova7974
      @imjahova7974 6 років тому

      Neutral Gravity So true, destiny 2 looked so much better then the burnt and shit meal at first and then you dig in and find out it's raw and the same shit as previously

    • @_c_e_
      @_c_e_ 6 років тому

      Love the restaurant analogy too, it's just not a sustainable one once the patrons find out how to get free loot ;)

    • @Venom8419
      @Venom8419 6 років тому

      Neutral Gravity Spaghetti Bolognese looked good. 😂

    • @tobyhughes9525
      @tobyhughes9525 6 років тому

      I don't quite think so. He explains that a 'good' business would offer a meal and service for free just to satisfy their upset customer. Destiny has countless upset customers at this point but, instead of offering an incentive for them to forgive the company and continue playing, it's more cost-effective to let them go. The players who 'give up' are just factored into the numbers, just like how Wall-Mart will write shoplifting into their calculations. Once the money trades hands, it's done, no need to keep the customer entertained. The upset customers will only come back when they think that the company has changed and Bungie, much like many other companies these days, will do everything they can to try and market their next big thing as something that needs buying.

    • @Tim-is-short
      @Tim-is-short 6 років тому +1

      Neutral Gravity Me too, he just forgot to mention the part where the staff spit in the food after getting your order wrong the first time.

  • @Alyeh
    @Alyeh 6 років тому +7

    I thought the title said 'The curse of *Ordis* '

  • @sandman2070
    @sandman2070 2 роки тому +4

    wow, he really never played it again.

  • @KairuRM
    @KairuRM 6 років тому +166

    Sadly this isn't just with D2 this is happening with all games lately, developers are now worrying more about money and less about the actually gameplay game developers forgot how to make there games enjoyable and actually put time and effort into there games EA, Bungie, Activision all developers forgot what made games actually good instead just making everything u want behind a paywall

    • @Dj-vv7sc
      @Dj-vv7sc 6 років тому +10

      Lil Vaderr games aren't Art anymore

    • @kbacon24
      @kbacon24 6 років тому +10

      I agree with the premise of your statement, but not all studios are doing this; i.e. Guerrilla Games w/ Horizon Zero Dawn. (Most recent example I played) No hard feeling here though :)

    • @MasterJay1
      @MasterJay1 6 років тому +1

      Lil Vaderr trueee!!! Is all about money.

    • @Station9.75
      @Station9.75 6 років тому +6

      Yeah. I've sold my PS4 for this reason. I have barely enjoyed any games this gen.

    • @y2kplus9
      @y2kplus9 6 років тому +12

      Just wanna point out that EA and Activision are publishers, not developers. Bungie, Blizzard, DICE, are developers. But yes, I agree with you; games just aren't good anymore, or at least that is true with AAA titles and IPs. They need to realize that if they'd just put effort into the game and make it good, it'll practically roll in the dough.

  • @corn9692
    @corn9692 6 років тому +181

    Option A: $170 for a $35 game made by a multi million AAA team.
    Option B: $0 for a $170 game made by an A (up and coming) team.
    Operator? Ordis Wonders... What are you thinking about?

    • @tunnar79
      @tunnar79 6 років тому +16

      Warframe is good,but it also has it's issues and it definitely isn't a 170$ worth game.

    • @pure-332
      @pure-332 6 років тому +9

      tunnar79 Yep. As a long time Warframe player it’s honestly garbage once you get passed mid game.

    • @tyrannosaurus_x
      @tyrannosaurus_x 6 років тому +2

      +Pure, but you stay hooked nonetheless.

    • @pure-332
      @pure-332 6 років тому +6

      tyrannosaurus_x It’s not a bad game, and the general mindless killing is very fun and it does keep you hooked. Only when you hit “end-game” of which there isn’t any in Warframe does it get rather boring and the true problems with the game shine.

    • @singmysin
      @singmysin 6 років тому +2

      Pure - true the grind to get to end game is annoying but worth

  • @desertplacesj
    @desertplacesj 6 років тому

    Emotion is equal of reason....and I truly respect the thought and heart you put into reviewing this game. I don't like or enjoy D2.
    The hardest part is knowing that you, once, said things about Destiny that were full of hope. I hate knowing our feeling of hope has been betrayed.
    Not really knowing why, I went back to playing The Division. I miss the random rolls. The work I put into getting a random gun, that's *MY GUN* made me feel special.
    Bungie went and gave everyone the same gun. Not once did I ever feel like I found something special while playing D2.
    I'm proud of you for leaving this franchise.
    I mean....really....playing with Hawkmoon was amazing in D1.....so too was looking, every week, for the random rolls that come up.
    Nothing to look forward to. Nothing to love. I'm sad. You are, too. It's okay. It's okay to be betrayed when it happens to us.
    Thanks for calling out Bungie for having betrayed almost all of the the love they they originally promised us....thanks for telling us that they aren't following through on any promise of love.
    I really loved the first game. Still do. But you did a fine job of talking through why D2 sucks. Thanks. Again. It feels like a betraying, and I guess there is still some value in wondering why and how.

  • @patocolunga373
    @patocolunga373 6 років тому +31

    the potencial of the game is amazing but they just keep fucking up

    • @VYxFrost
      @VYxFrost 6 років тому

      y'can't even say that anymore because the potential for Destiny 1 was amazing, but we're just back to where it was but worse

  • @itsybitsyzombie
    @itsybitsyzombie 6 років тому +88

    I regret spending $90 on this game and expansion pass.

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 6 років тому

      itsybitsyzombie Lol

    • @Randompancakes12345
      @Randompancakes12345 6 років тому

      Same

    • @bpsc9882
      @bpsc9882 6 років тому +1

      I fucking pre ordered it too.

    • @NeverQuit87
      @NeverQuit87 6 років тому +1

      itsybitsyzombie lol foolish to buy the pass

    • @mikes5637
      @mikes5637 6 років тому +12

      As a mature gamer may I give you some sage advice which actually applies to pretty much all forms of commerce?
      Never *ever* pay upfront for something you've never seen.
      Now, can a nurse please take me back to my room?