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- Did Jesus drink alcohol? Is drinking okay according to Jesus? If so, how much, and what type of alcoholic drinks are Christians allowed to drink? In this video, Pastor Nelson answers the question: “Did Jesus drink wine or alcohol?”
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I choose to abstain and I do not regret that. Growing up, I had an alcoholic uncle who drank himself into the grave and this served as an example to me to avoid it altogether. For all I know I could be an alcoholic too, but I avoided that, thanks be to God.
Same here. I abstain from all that stuff. Islam totally outlaws any type of alcohol. It's one the very few things that Islam teaches that I actually agree with. I'm a Christian, but I agree with them on that.
I drink too but I don’t do anything bad what you say about it ?
@@tlungzen1192 Here are some Bible verses dealing with drunkeness.
Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Proverb 23:29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?
30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.
@@badgerden7080 i dont belive it should be forbidden, but it should be for some people, and it should ALWAYS no matter what ALWAYS be consumed in moderation
Well if Jesus drank wine and made wine from water,that’s good enough for me.
if God has delivered u from ALCOHOLISM and you're here looking for scripture to make it ok for u to partake of alcohol again,PLEASE DO NOT DRINK!
well said
God bless you.
Amen
Even if you didn't have a drinking problem, don't drink. Its better not to drink at all. All that stuff is evil in my view. I agree with the Islam on this.
Yes. If you struggled with drinking do not drink again. A few men in my church had drinking problems, so they completely gave it up and will admit if they have a drink it would be sin. But at the same time they do not cast judgement on anyone else in our church who can have a drink (without getting drunk) with a clean conscience.
Everything in moderation is key, ie food and drinks. 😇
That's what I think as well. I think it's alright to have a Snickers, but you shouldn't binge on candy. I think it's alright to have a glass or two of wine a night, but you shouldn't get drunk. Even with natural (not artificially engineered) marijuana, I don't think it's anymore unhealthy than sugar or alcohol and I think we have the freedom to enjoy the relaxing and pain relieving benefits of it, but we shouldn't get high out of our minds. Most things are alright in moderation, though I'll be honest, I don't drink or smoke so I may not be the right person to comment on it.
@@TheMidnightModder Interesting perspective, Modder. I was not expecting you to reveal that you don't drink or smoke at the end of your comment. It seemed like someone trying to defend their habits. My perspective is a little different. I think it's best to abstain from all forms of intoxication. Some people are better than others when it comes to balance, but from my own experience with friends and family, 'balance' so often leads to over indulgence. My stance is- if you aren't interested in intoxication, why partake in drinking or smoking, at all? It just doesn't make sense to me. Social drinking also doesn't really make sense to me. Why do something you don't want to do just because others are doing it? Why get together if it is not going to be fruitful? or if 'drinking/smoking/etc' is the main activity? I realize I sound pretty black and white (and 'no fun'), and that is probably true. Maybe I just struggle with balance! I am an ex-pothead and used to drink (although not too much). I have a hard time relating to my old friends now because they are not interested in bettering themselves.
@@michaellemmen That's where I land too. I think we have the freedom in Christ to enjoy the fruits of the cane, vine, and plant, but for people who are likely to take it too far, like those of us who have struggled with addiction, it's best to not touch it at all. I've greatly minimized my sugar intake, can't stand the taste of alcohol, and will never try pot in case I like it too much 😂
That ol' saying , 'To each their own.' Everyone got their own choices and decisions granted to them so.....you say potato I say... 😇
"be sober" means to abstain from intoxicating/poisoning ourselves. There is no magic point of being "drunk", it is a continuum of stupidity.
Alcohol is also referred to as wine of Sodom. Most people don't know the Old Testament, so the falsely assume the wine always means alcoholic.
"The Son of Man came eating and drinking..." He admitted as much Himself. But drunkenness on the other hand, is an abomination. As one who used to abuse alcohol myself, I would often cherry pick Bible verses to justify my habits (e.g. Eccl 9:7). However, by the Grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ I have been delivered from alcoholism, and never again will intoxicating beverage touch my lips. It is a stumbling block to many, but not an outright sin unless abused in such a way to cause drunkenness or cause another believer to stumble.
Amen brother. The lord will convict us of things only to make us closer to him. I know people struggle with alcohol because they justify it due to others drinking but it is not meant for everyone and sometimes the deliverance of the addiction of alcoholism shows us how powerful our lord truly is!
We are told to "be sober" (abstain).
Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. 1 Cor 10:21
@Alden Macaranas We are told to be sober for a reason. There is no benefit to poisoning ourselves. We should learn to deal with our issues without intoxicating ourselves.
Jesus came eating and drinking what?
it is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
5Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
And the scripture cannot be broken.
Well said brother.
In churches people complain about drinking but overlook gluttony.
@@Isaiah--ln2md You don't get it, do you?
And they're mostly the overweight ones. Many minister's are overweight and it's silenced as if it's not idolatry
Most definitely.
That seems hypocritical to me. Drinking wine with a meal isn't a sin for me. I sin when I'm just sitting and thinking, or when I speak. You understand what I'm saying, right? I wish Baptist Christians would stop judging other Christians for drinking wine. Drinking wine itself isn't my sin, but my thoughts and words can be. Nobody sees me sinning when I'm thinking, but if someone sees me drinking wine, they immediately judge me. And it's often fellow Christians doing the judging.
Very well explained indeed! Thank you.
Very good! Just because something _can_ be abused doesn’t mean it’s intrinsically sinful.
Ehhmmm what a ridiculous question. This should NOT even be a question. since when does wine not have alcohol?
@@damiettes7140 Freshly pressed wine doesn't have alcohol until yeast is added and begins to ferment over hours and days and so on
Wine is sometimes used to refer to the fruit of the vine and "vine" is essentially wine. Pronounce wine with a German "W" sound and you'll see it's the same pronunciation as vine with the latin "V".
Poison is poison. How much poison do you need?
@@joemonroe9456 Wine is not a poison until you consume it to the point of toxicity. You can do the same with water- do you consider water to be poison as well?
@@Ooochild Every molecule of alcohol is toxic to the human body.
Toxic and other adverse effects of alcohol on organs and tissues in humans (Figure 1) are largely a consequence of its metabolism to acetaldehyde, and associated formation of reactive oxygen and nitrogen species, depletion of co-factors (e.g., NAD+), and impairment in energy homeostasis [4]. Because of the considerable redundancy in the oxidative enzymatic pathways (alcohol dehydrogenases, CYP2E1 and catalase) that can convert alcohol to acetaldehyde, most tissues are capable of alcohol metabolism, even though liver is the primary site. Likewise, acetaldehyde dehydrogenases are ubiquitous in the mitochondria.
I think this is one of the best videos describing this subject, and Answering the question.
THANK YOU! I’ve been pulling my hair out listening to the scriptures get butchered over this. If “the Son of Man came both eating and drinking…” he’s not going to all of a sudden, at a celebration of all things, turn teetotaler. Also somewhere in psalms or proverbs it’s stated that wine is a gift from God but there are also warnings about over indulgence. If instead of there being a straight out, spelled out prohibition of fermented wine, it instead warns of getting drunk, it certainly sounds like, while given with a warning, we are still allowed to partake.
Control the wine, don't let the wine control you.
Psalm 104:15 and Isaiah 25:6. I am a DWI defense lawyer. Drinking and being impaired by alcohol or drugs (yes that includes cold medication) are distinguishable. So enjoy with a meal and friends but don’t drive.
It’s simple, you can have wine you just cannot get drunk, you can eat but don’t allow yourself to become over weight. It’s all common sense how the Lord wants us to live. 🙏😇
Common sense is not very common apparently.
@@badgerden7080 The body constantly rejects and hungers whatever it wants. Many just don't deny the flesh.
What is drunk? Is that tipsy? None of those people at the wedding where at all…and I mean AT ALL slightly tipsy? Even after being out of the wine they already drank? Not justifying drunkenness but at what point are you biblically “drunk?”
@@SeekTheLordJesusChrist7 I think if that nuance mattered there'd be an answer for that.
If you drink Alcohol responsibly and in moderation, there is no wrong in drinking alcoholic beverages. If you cop up a buzz by total accident, even if God deems it to be a sin, ya gotta remember that we sin everyday anyway. Even a white lie is an act of trespass and all trespasses give the death penalty. Only Jesus can wash our iniquities away.
The best answer I personally can give is... try to avoid it if you can. If you feel like you're catching a buzz, take that as a sign you should stop immediately. If it's something you run into every time you drink, then that's a sign you probably shouldn't consume alcohol.
"be sober" means to abstain from intoxicating/poisoning ourselves. There is no magic point of being "drunk", it is a continuum of stupidity.
Alcohol is also referred to as wine of Sodom. Most people don't know the Old Testament, so the falsely assume the wine always means alcoholic.
Well said. There is a difference between drinking but not to the level of being drunk.
We forget that wine and beer we’re commonly consumed because clean water wasn’t always available to trustworthy for you to consume, especially while traveling out of your home territory where your gut was used to the stuff in your own local water. Tourists abroad today are still encouraged to avoid drinking tap water for the same reason. Jews saw wine as a gift from God (they have a specific prayer of thanks for wine before drinking it) and as a substance worthy of offering to God in the temple (the priests placed a quart of wine in the tabernacle and temple with the 12 loaves of bread every day). They still use wine as a normal part of weekly worship and annual festivals. What they didn’t want was for people to engage in drinking excessively as was common in the cultures and religious cults around them. That was one of the cultural patterns Christians tried to set themselves apart from and is probably why the early churches first developed traditions of avoiding wine and or alcohol.
They had these things called "wells". You can even read about them in the Bible.
@@joemonroe9456 Yes, wells and cisterns. But these can also become contaminated, which is one of the reasons Jewish laws preferred “living” or “running” water sources. But assess to clean running water sources that haven’t been fouled by wild animals, human waste or farming practices, or stagnation isn’t a worldwide phenomena… which is why travelers to this day as still encouraged to avoid tap or “still”/unbottled water in poorer countries that don’t have organized water treatment facilities like more developed countries.
@@selahr. They knew to boil water for thousands of years before Christ.
@@selahr. Pliny the Elder writes about the purification of water which included filtering and boiling.
@@joemonroe9456Classicist here-no, Pliny the Elder did not recommend boiling water to purify it for consumption. In his "Natural History, Pliny did describe the process by which non-Romans would prepare beer, which involved boiling the combination of grains and water prior to fermentation. But nowhere in that text does he recommend boiling water before consumption to make it safe for drinking. While many of the recipes for food and drink that he discussed may have had the inadvertent effect of sterilization, he did not boiling water as a means of making it potable.
Nice try, Champ.
Good fresh whole Bread, good wine and good cheese. What a treat.
This type of explanation is lacking in the church keep going bro
God is good!!! ❤❤❤❤❤🙌😁👏
Awesome and a very knowledgeable video so far, my confusion is solved, thanks a lot! 😊 Praise the lord!
Notice outside church:- Make your worst enemy your best friend.
Notice outside same church one week later:- Drink is your worst enemy.
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Just because you CAN pet a poisonous snake, maybe you should not do it. I don’t doubt that there are people who can drink in moderation. Listen to the warnings. Alcohol is not something to play around with.
So true.
Scripture speaks of...Do not be drunk with wine, but be filled with the holy spirit."
@@sunnydaze1185 That is correct.
@@Isaiah--ln2md You are a liar and a servant of Satan. Get thee behind me, Satan!
@@Isaiah--ln2mdSo very Wrong.... salvation is for anyone who believes and trust in God manifested in the flesh as Christ, died on the cross for forgiveness of sins, and rose on the third day. Anyone who repents( turning from themselves to Jesus as Lord of their life), and their soul's savior, can receive salvation. It most definitely is NOT for just one ethnic group. Their is neither jew nor gentile.
people get confused with drink and drunk ... drink is just like have a drink in a certain limitation. whereas becoming drunk is when alcohol clouds your judgment and the actions you do are not clearly in your control and causes you to stumble. so clearly drunkenness is sin.
if you cannot fight or control the ability to keep the alcohol consumption in control or moderation then it's much better to abstain completely...
that's what I learnt from the Word of God and share it with others.
In the Greek, "drunk" is a process verb. In other words, don't do the process of intoxicating/poisoning yourself. In conjunction with "be sober" (abstain), the picture is very clear.
Alcohol clouds your judgment from the first sip.
Nothing JESUS Created is Bad for us, it is when it becomes and Idol that is the problem!!!
For the scriptures to say “don’t be drunk “ the obvious point is it’s speaking of alcohol. There’s too many mental gymnastics going on to prove NO amount of wine/ alcohol is to be consumed. Where the division lies is in the context of scripture. Many are pulling scriptures out of its context to prove their bias rather than being open to the possibility that their wrong
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Thanks, I agree 👍
Thank you for providing clarity through scripture on this 🙏
"I will make man in my image" -a lot of Christians....
The word of god is always enough
It's very strange to me, because when you look at it in context of a modern day party, Jesus was the guy who brings kegs of the good stuff so the party can keep going. Yet that is the type of person that "christians" look down on and judge, and say all kinds of whispers and murmurs about, just as the pharisees did.
Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days
1 Corinthians 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.
Therefore be wise. If you have not self-control and your weakness is wine and drunkenness. Then do not drink wine. Everyone's have different weakness. If you can drink with self-control without getting drunk then go ahead and drink wine.
Great video!
In short, yes! If it were not so, they would not have accused him of being a drunkard.
Drunk definition: being in a temporary state in which one's physical and mental faculties are impaired by an excess of alcoholic drink
Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
James 2:1
My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
Good. Now nothing more needs to be said! Exceeding what is written (1 Corinthians 4:6) seems to be just way too much fun for some people. Some in the comments actually seem to be bordering on saying we *should* exceed what is written, so people won't drink. What is this? Seems like some sort of disorder. Maybe childhood trauma from having a crazed alcoholic as a parent or something.
I've come here cuz my church said Jesus made grape juice and not wine
God blessed people's vineyards in the Bible; what does the vineyard produce?
Jesus typified himself with the vine; in the book of John. What wine does to your body, the Holy Spirit do to your spirit and in Eph 5:18 KJV And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
There is something similar between the Holy Spirit and wine.
In the ancient world, however, to quench thirst without inducing drunkenness, wine was diluted with water to between one-third and one-tenth of its strength. Due to the climate and circumstances, even “new wine” fermented quickly and had an inebriating effect, if not mixed (Acts 2:13). Because of a lack of water purification process, wine mixed with water was also safer to drink than water alone. While the Bible condemns drunkenness, it does not necessarily condemn the consumption of wine.
*MacArthur Study bible.
It's a common fallacy that they didn't know how to preserve grape juice.
In the Greek, "drunk" is a process verb. In other words, don't do the process of intoxicating/poisoning yourself. In conjunction with "be sober" (abstain), the picture is very clear.
"you cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
"look not on the wine when it is red" Prov. 23
Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
"Jacob... drank the blood of the grape" Deut. 32
God calls grape juice his wine "my wine(tirosh:grape juice)
8492 [e] וְתִירוֹשִׁ֖י
wə-ṯî-rō-wō-šî and My new wine Hoseah 2:9
Oh please the priest drank alcohol same word used for wine outside the temple that was prohibited inside you guts are hilarious with this nonsense
Well said
Tbh god turned water and to wine so i feel like its ok to drink but not get drunk because if you become drunk you will hurt someone so i feel like its ok to have a little wine just don't get drunk
I would never be led by a pastor that claims that the mere partaking of alcohol is a sin. If that pastor is so wrong about this issue, what else is he wrong about? This is a deal breaker if someone claims to be a Biblical shepherd.
And I don't really drink. I'll have a single can or bottle of beer once a month or so.
I even had a pastor that agreed it was not a sin, but required the deacons, groundskeeper, and security volunteers to abstain. I left that church as well. He based this decision on "Avoiding the appearance of evil". If Jesus and Timothy weren't concerned about avoiding the appearance of evil in relation to strong drink, then how can we justify this concern? If it's not evil, then why are you avoiding it to "avoid the appearance of evil"?
Be correct. How can you teach me to be correct if you are not correct? It's not that difficult.
The quickest way to tell if someone doesn't know the scriptures or the original languages is their position on alcohol. Even in the English, we can tell that God is opposed to any alcohol.
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol)
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils"
as opposed to Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
They were drunk off the communion wine in Corinthians nice try though 😆
@@joemonroe9456 I just noticed this after someone else posted a great point today.
Did you even watch the video? He presented a bullet proof case that you're 100% wrong. Why would the Nazarites take an oath to avoid alcohol if everyone took that oath? Why would the Pharisees see Jesus drinking and say He is a drunkard if He wasn't drinking alcohol? Why would the lord of the wedding feast be pleased by Jesus's wine if it had no alcohol? Clearly, since everyone was drunk, he wanted alcohol. Why would Psalms tell us that wine is meant to lift men's spirits? If it's just a grape, wouldn't all fruit juice have the same praise?
But what about the communion wine? How did they get drunk on communion wine if it contained no alcohol?
The quickest way to know that someone doesn't know the scriptures is when they expose their errors.
@@stevecampanelli6009 Great point. Thank you.
To me, this is such a non issue that I don't really bother thinking about it. I know for 100% certain that Jesus drank alcohol. Since He never sinned, drinking alcohol is not a sin. But He never drank until He got drunk. Because that would be a sin. Just like gluttony.
@@Kahless_the_Unforgettable It wasn't just alcohol. It was any product of the grape.
"The quickest way to know that someone doesn't know the scriptures is when they expose their errors."
Are you going to ignore the 13 times at least that we are told to be sober? So you can intoxicate yourself.
Brother you just got the Seventh day Adventists very upset. When I was on the vestry in the Episcople Church after communion and church , the Priest always called me up and said , there is wine left over can you help me drink it down. We always left the church very happy.
@@Isaiah--ln2md look more closely at the fiery image .
In the Greek, "drunk" is a process verb. In other words, don't do the process of intoxicating/poisoning yourself. In conjunction with "be sober" (abstain), the picture is very clear.
@@joemonroe9456 I am a cook and with my food I always serve delicious wines. Thank goodness I am not Greek . And guess what ? Jesus Christ was not Greek either .
Why don’t they use this same EXACT explanation to weed? If it’s a fruit from the earth but it can become drunken/abused?
There is plenty of argument about whether Jesus would have afforded alcohol to people who had already been drinking. Also whether the wine at the wedding was even alcohol to start with. Both sides bring doubt so I would stay away from it altogether
A person who is strict with something and then condemns someone or something in one area is likely loose in another. Remember the accusing of one another negatively usually involves a plank in an eye. The Pharisees were guilty of this. We should not use what God has made to call it evil. If it is something you cannot control personally do not use it and others should not tempt you with it.
Very well said
So funny. We were just talking about this yesterday.
Mark 1:15
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Ephesians 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
1 John 2:5
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
Drunkenness leads to loss of mental control and hence misbehaviour and consequently sin.
what is the level of being Drunk? for if I drink a bottle of wine I am drunk, but if I have 2 glasses of wine with a meal it makes me happy and relaxed, but I would say I become not as I am when I am not drinking wine... I am in control, but even when I have been drunk, I am still in control... so to what level is Drunk vs being intoxicated in a relaxed cheerful manor... for when they celebrated the wedding, they would have had a few wines, and celebration of Joy would be obvious... is being Drunkard at a level of no self control?...
I have mental blockages/troubles when trying to separate or combine Saving Faith in Jesus Christ/Righteousness versus what does scripture say about this… & is _____a sin according to the Bible, & what did Jesus/John/etc say about that….
What really matters is a strong faith in Jesus & our relationship with God right? I believe if you have the Holy Spirit guiding you and you know that then you shouldn’t worry too much because he’s leading you.
Faith is what matters, and a strong faith is what makes a holy person, but there is more to it than just that. Jesus didn't say that faith is what will set us free from sin, but the truth (John 8:31-36), and Paul says that faith comes from hearing the word of God (Romans 10:17). Faith needs to be put into something: in this case, Jesus, but to put faith in Jesus, you have to know Jesus. That's why we need knowledge to put our faith in.
The reason we can't just say, "I'm saved, so I don't have to worry about doctrine because I have the Holy Spirit guiding me," is because we aren't perfect (see Romans 7:14-25). We may misinterpret a feeling to be the guidance of God, so we have to continue (actively, as Jesus said in John 8:31) in his word to know what is righteous and unrighteous. The Bible doesn't give us so many teachings for no reason.
Many people think that God is guiding them, even many false Christians. On the day of judgement, many Christians who have done great things, even miracles, will be cast away (to Hell) because, even though they thought they were righteous, they weren't, and it shows in that they love a certain sin or sins (Matthew 7:21-27).
2 corinthians 13:5 tells us to examine ourselves, to see if we have a saving faith, one that actually changes us to righteousness and not letting us continue in sin (1 John 3:9-10). There's nothing to examine ourselves by but ourselves (not very reliable) or the word of God (certainly true). That's why we should go to the Bible for all our questions.
If you haven't read the Bible, I recommend that you start with John 3:13-21 (Jesus's clearest explanation of the Gospel) and the New Testament. :)
"oinos" is a generic term for product of the grape, but in the Hebrew, Gods position on alcoholic wine is very clear. And the New Testament writer use phrases from the Old Testament linking back to show God's position on alcohol.
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol)
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
Wine isn't alcohol? What's going on?
I don't drink I'm just trying to find out if I can get wine for my visitors in my new house.
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Please read the book over, he didnt drink alcohol it would be a clear sin. It was grape juice. Unfermented as Daniel spoke of
The cup of blessing is not the cup of devils. The wine of Sodom is poisonous (alcoholic). Deut. 32
Jesus is the "pure blood of the grape"
"be sober" is not a suggestion.
Alcohol is the "cup of devils" as opposed to the "cup of the Lord" which the "cup of blessing which we bless". Alcohol has been condemned from the beginning. 12 times we are told to be sober.
Jesus did NOT drink fermented wine, nor agrees with it. He will never contradict his words! Because Jesus is the Word of God!
Proverbs 20:1; Proverbs 23:29-35; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Drinking in moderation is compromised! avoid it!...just a little, taste a little is the beginning of drunkenness such as all vices and bad habits.
glad you have the doctrine. There's only a remnant that will have an ear to hear. This video is heresy. And I make 30 minutes video to refute this and it gets no audience
You dont care about what the bible says. You only care about your tradition.
@@cynicalsayonara7169 I don't follow tradition.
@@LightOfChristOfficial The bible is far more nuance than a church covenant would have you believe.
@@cynicalsayonara7169 "oinos" is a generic term for product of the grape, but in the Hebrew, Gods position on alcoholic wine is very clear. And the New Testament writer use phrases from the Old Testament linking back to show God's position on alcohol.
"be sober" (abstain from poisoning yourself
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol) Prov. 20
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
Hi, I recently learned at bible college that the first translation of the word for pressed grapes was wine and was nothing compared to how we make "wine" today. When something was alcoholic/fermented it is translated strong drink. Could you verify this, please?
Dr. Henry Morris states in one of his books that the Greek word "oinos" was used for fermented and unfermented wines and the context determines which.
A winemaker confirmed that grapes do not become what we label wine today unless you add yeast.
Is the strength of the wine relevant? 1 shot won't get me intoxicated but 2 will.. 3 coolers won't get me intoxicated, but 6 will...both have different alcohol content.. the point is don't consume an amount that will lead to drunkenness. By the way, I don't drink alcohol at all...
Strong drink referred to beer...see Deut. 14:22-26
That is incorrect, the English word "wine" in the New Testament is the Greek
word _oinos_ which literally means 'wine' it does not mean grape juice.
Jesus miraculously turned water into wine, He did not turn water into grape juice.
They didn’t have refrigerators back then.
Grapes have natural yeast on their skins, when grapes are crushed into juice, the fermentation process begins immediately.
After the grapes were squeezed, they had to be bottled, packaged, transported in the middle-eastern heat, sold at a market where they wait to be sold to a consumer who saves the delicacy for a special occasion such as a wedding.
All the while, it is fermenting.
By time anyone drinks it, it is fully capable of getting someone drunk.
Jesus drank alcohol.
@@Isaiah--ln2md yes & He established the Church to take the Gospel to the rest of the world.
Any "doctrine" based on one verse produces confusion & division & has been the foundation of many cults & sects
Some say it was grape juice
“Do not damage the oil and the wine…” it’s found in Revelation. Also the wedding in Cana where Jesus turned water into wine and then The Last Supper which wine represents his blood and the bread his body take this in remembrance of me! Then he says John the Baptist came not eating nor drinking and you still rejected him but I come eating and drinking and you call me a drunkard and a glutton who hangs around sinners and scoundrels! Yeah so you can find the answer in scripture. Please remember Jesus was and still is Jewish ok Jews are allowed alcohol like for Pesach and Shabbat and the Feast of the Tabernacles I think that would be Sukkot and Purim! I think people forget that he says salvation belongs to the Jews then to the Gentiles! Besides wine was made differently back then without all these preservatives that we have now! It tasted sweeter more pure and natural not as artificial as it tastes now! Did you know the prices of wine has gone up like wine in my city is nearly a hundred dollars I never remembered it being so high!
Seriously dude? That’s like asking,”Do you drink water or H2O?” Tell me you haven’t drank in your life without telling me.
So I guess me enjoying some Louis. The 13th Coniac Here and There is not a bad thing since all it is a distilled wine.
Nothing wrong with drinking wine or beer as long as you exercise self-control and do not get drunk. But if drinking will stumble a WEAK conscience christian, then do not drink in front of the WEAK conscience christian. (1 Corinthians 8:9-13 Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.)
Because if a christian believes that drinking is a sin and he gives in to what he believes is a sin, he has sinned in the area of lack of faith and NOT in the area of drinking. (Romans 14:23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.)
Jesus did drink wine. He did not get drunk.He did not sin.
Is drinking wine loosing your salvation and holiness? - THAT IS THE QUESTION!
Can I drink wine to get buzzed but not drunk like if I feel a little good but not messed up then stop
Bread and wine, but wine is still wine. There Is alcohol😊
PSALM 75:8
Anything can become a sin if not done in moderation. Let’s not judge another man’s servant. You’re conscience might condemn you if you drink some wine, but to another it in no way convicts them. Let every man be fully persuaded in their own mind, and have faith to ourselves. And only allow what you have faith to allow. For anything not done in faith, is sin! And anything done that causes someone not as mature in the faith to fall away is not love!
@@Isaiah--ln2md Seriously? I came across that pic, after having a dream where Jesus hugged me. In my dream I felt love like I never felt before! So if you think it’s some satanic pic, I guess that’s what you want to believe? To me it’s a reminder of the only reward I will want in heaven! Just to be in the presence of Gods love and have that hug again!
@@Isaiah--ln2md Ok thanks for telling me! Have a great day!
@@Isaiah--ln2md oh I thought it was because Satan sent you? Thanks for clearing that up!
Let’s not forget that Jesus drank wine and made wine from water and that’s good enough for me.
Which wine? "don't look on the wine when it is red"
In the Greek, "drunk" is a process verb. In other words, don't do the process of intoxicating/poisoning yourself. In conjunction with "be sober" (abstain), the picture is very clear.
@@joemonroe9456 Eph.5:18 says don’t be drunk w/wine but filled w/the Spirit. This indicates the wine was not grape juice and it didn’t say don’t drink it,so therefore drinking wine is ok as long as you don’t get drunk.
@@GentleSerpent The Greek uses a process verb(in Greek it's called the present tense) similar to English progressive tense. In other words, don't do the process of intoxicating/poisoning yourself. There is no specific point of being "drunk", just a process of poisoning. Which is why we are also told to be sober (nepho:abstain).
methuskó: to make drunk
Original Word: μεθύσκω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: methuskó
Phonetic Spelling: (meth-oos'-ko)
Definition: to make drunk
Usage: I make drunk; pass: I become drunk.
@@joemonroe9456 Psalm 75:8
@@joemonroe9456 only mindless sinners get drunk no respect for THEMSELVES.
Most christians offended by drink forget to be FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. Luke 11:13.
You can’t be positive about this. So you should give both sides of this
"oinos" is a generic term for product of the grape, but in the Hebrew, Gods position on alcoholic wine is very clear. And the New Testament writer use phrases from the Old Testament linking back to show God's position on alcohol.
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol) Prov. 20
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
Mike Winger? Is that you?
Age old question that's been fought over for centuries. God is against drunkenness; therefore, our brains cannot comprehend the true 'wine' Jesus made.
"oinos" is a generic term for product of the grape, but in the Hebrew, Gods position on alcoholic wine is very clear. And the New Testament writer use phrases from the Old Testament linking back to show God's position on alcohol.
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol)
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
This is not true. The Bible says, "wine is a mocker and strong drink is raging and whoever is deceived by it is not wise." The bible also says, "look not upon the grape when it turns"... Many verses in the bible condemn the use of fermented drinks. Jesus would never condone alcohol... It is a spirit. That is why when you go to the liquor store, it says " Wine & Spirits". The word "wine" in that context is not a fermented beverage. Thank You
Many people i know drink alcohol to feel the effects, not just because it taste good. I am trying to reach out locally with many people suffering and lacking basic life needs, like homeless, and jobless people, and inviting them to different churches and bible studies, and the biggest common denominator, is alcohol. Also there is the spiritual aspect of using alcohol. Many of these people using alcohol are in bondage and trying to cover up past traumas and current hardships, and in doing so, they are opening spiritual doors for demonic spirits to dwell within them and feed off of them and that is why helping them with there daily needs is never going to cure them, only inviting the Holy Spirit into them through faith in Christ Jesus can do that. This should be our main focus while reaching out to those people suffering in bondage to alcohol, as well as all other mind altering, body destroying, man man and natural chemicals and substances.
If Jesus allows us to alter our minds with alcohol, then does He teach us how much is acceptable before it is a sin?
Either way, you must admit that alcohol has caused much harm and many deaths and hardships and ruined many lives.
Why would any Christian want to partake in this destructive, man made, mind altering, chemical?
The word “alcohol” is said to come from the arabic term “Al-khul” which means “BODY-EATING SPIRIT” , also, is the origin of the term” ghoul.
In alchemy, alcohol is used to extract the soul essence of an entity. Hence its’ use in extracting essences for essential oils, and the sterilization of medical instruments. By consuming alcohol into the body, it in effect extracts the very essence of the soul, allowing the body to be more susceptible to neighboring entities most of which are of low frequencies. why do you think we call certain alcoholic beverages “SPIRITS”?
If Jesus allows us to alter our minds with a processed man made fermented chemical substance like wine, where did he permit the use of beer or grain alcohol?
When did Jesus turn water into beer or rum or vodka?
We have allowed major jumps in conclusion based on one or two bible verses like Paul encouraging all Christians to drink wine because of our stomach pain, but that was Paul writing directly to Timothy, but we have incorporated that verse to promote and allow the use of all alcohol.
Either way, you must admit that alcohol has caused much harm and many deaths and hardships and ruined many lives.
Why would any Christian want to partake in this destructive, man made, mind altering, chemical?
In the mighty and wonderful name of our Lord God King and Saviuor: Christ Jesus, we pray: Amen, Hallelujah, Peace, and Maranatha.
Its not sinful its unhealthy, drink new wine not aged wine like Jesus
OINOS...OINOS...OINOS...go and study that greek word. Don't teach what you don't know. Jesus did not drink booze and it is a sin for Christians to touch the stuff. Repent from your wickedness today!
So basically just the occasional glass of wine at dinner but not downing bottles at parties and making a fool of yourself
Drinking all alcohol is a sin. Drinking wine is a sin. All alcohol is bad for your health. Wine is bad for your health. Drinking wine is a sin.
23 to 1…🤔 in one simple sentence… ok…
Be moderate un everything; have self control. Is it possible to have sex ten times a day and become a sex addict without dire consequences?
That’s not true . He says to stay away from strong drink . Yes he did make wine at the wedding . However scripture states that he told Peter I believe to drink a small bit of wine to cure his upset stomach . They called grape juice wine as well back then . He is not telling scripture truth . Go to Geno Jennings on UA-cam for the correct in-depth verses on drinking it is a sin . An JESUS would not be holy if he drank .
Why would Jesus not be holy if he drank? Why would he turn water into wine when he could have turned into stomach pain curing water?
"oinos" is a generic term for product of the grape, but in the Hebrew, Gods position on alcoholic wine is very clear. And the New Testament writer use phrases from the Old Testament linking back to show God's position on alcohol.
"be sober" (abstain from poisoning yourself
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol) Prov. 20
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
The quickest answer is none of these idiots know because we weren't there we don't know drink responsiby
LAME QUESTION? WINE has alcohol.
in the biblical era, grape juice was also referred to as wine
@@WatchfulWolf be that as it may, several instances of wine in the bible are actually referring to alcoholic (fermented) wine.
@@TitusJudah and it is shown to be evil.
"oinos" is a generic term for product of the grape, but in the Hebrew, Gods position on alcoholic wine is very clear. And the New Testament writer use phrases from the Old Testament linking back to show God's position on alcohol.
"be sober" (abstain from poisoning yourself
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol) Prov. 20
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
Anything get you inebriated is forbidden...
Don't promote wine now.
Wine is alcoholic drink 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So you are saying Jesus would have made already drunk people more intoxicated... this would be in itself a sin by causing your brother to stumble. . Sorry... you cant have it both ways.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree!! I cannot and will not believe that Jesus made more fermented wine for people who were already drunk. Think about it, you claiming that Jesus, the one who came to set captives free made more wine for those who were already intoxicated. Doesn't seem too likely that he would condemn drunkenness and then supply more fuel for the fire.
Wine is fermented. Holy Oil had Canabis. It's all good.
"oinos" is a generic term for product of the grape, but in the Hebrew, Gods position on alcoholic wine is very clear. And the New Testament writer use phrases from the Old Testament linking back to show God's position on alcohol.
"be sober" (abstain from poisoning yourself
"look not on the wine when it is red" (alcohol) Prov. 20
"you can not drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils" 1 Cor. 10
Jacob drinking the "blood of the grape" as opposed to the wine of Sodom (alcohol) Deut. 32
and Jesus drank the "fruit of the vine"
None
I don’t agree, if Jesus provided a party of alcoholic wine He would be putting people in a place to sin. The party had already had wine. So moderation is out of the picture. Jesus did not provide them alcoholic wine. Also “fruit of the vine” quite literally refers to fresh grape juice.
This is a lie of the devil. God have mercy on him.
I make half an hour videos & days editing to make a video proving fermented wine is forbidden! I search did "Jesus drink wine?" All the LIES are at the TOP of the Search. The Devil works with UA-cam!
aw god drink and eat to keep them alive?
Wrong
He drank wine from the skull of a muslim.
😂😂😂😂😂
Stop lying
alcohol is a sin period
Not necessarily. It may be for you (and me too) but not for others, but is if it causes another believer to stumble. Drunkenness, on the other hand indeed is always sinful.
"It is good not to eat meat or to drink wine, or to do anything by which your brother stumbles. The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin." Romans 14:21-23
Then why did Jesus turn water to wine for all to enjoy at the wedding at Canan? Jesus doesn't encourage sin but he provided wine for people to drink. Timothy is also told to drink a little wine for his stomach issues.
Not at all.
Islam has a different view. To Muslims, any alcohol is a sin to Allah.
Facts! According to Jesus. He said wine is a mocker and whosoever is deceived by it is a fool. (Proverbs 20:1)
People want to drink that why this video
Jesus didn’t partake in drinking fermented wine. Do you know that first miracle of NEW wine reflected the covenant that would come at the last supper…
You know: what Christian’s do “take this bread and eat… this is my body… take this cup and drink… my blood.”
Do you really think Jesus made the guests 300 gallons of fermented wine?? Do you think the guests tasting that wine wouldn’t want it because they couldn’t get drunk off it?
Lol. No.
-> Clean Water was very difficult to get in Judea. It’s desert land. Even children drank grape juice.
Imagine drinking 8-10 12oz glasses of fermented wine a day~ or giving fermented wine to children at a wedding.
Even non-Christians know this fact. Come-on. 🤦🏼♀️