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Making JESUS' WINE - What did the wine from the last supper taste like?
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I have used this glass in this Video: Old Soup Bowl.
I have tasted the following wines in this Video: Do not try this at home.
One of the most fascinating aspects of wine is that it is so deeply intertwined with our culture.
A very important reason for this is its immensely strong link to Christianity.
The word “wine” is mentioned more than 200 times in the bible and no other plant appears more often in the bible than the vine. Even god was described as a vintner carefully trying to make sure that his vines carry the best fruit. The first thing Noah did after stranding with his arch is to plant a vineyard and he also was the first person to get drunk from wine.
Arguably the most important figure when it comes to spreading the interest in wine was not Hugh Johnson, Robert Parker, or Jancis Robinson but Jesus. Jesus’ coming out party as the savior and the first miracle he performed was when he turned water to wine at a wedding in the village of Cana. When Jesus decided to tell his disciples at the Last Supper holding the vessel filled with wine that became the holy grail: This cup is the new covenant in my blood. He created one of the most important rituals in the world and a reason for religious people to plant vines wherever they went to celebrate the Eucharist.
But even if there are a lot of references to wine there is very little information in the bible on how the wine from the last supper tasted. Let's give this period a little bit of perspective: At the time when Jesus lived wine production was already fairly widespread. The oldest traces of wine production are from 6000 BC - so wine was by no means a recent invention.
When the Romans ruled large parts of Europe, Eastern Asia, and Northern Africa and wherever they went they brought winemaking with them. The wine was also traded and exported between regions and countries so Jesus might have had access to the most famous wine of that time Falernian which was an alcoholic deep amber, white wine from today’s Campania region in Italy - it is pretty unlikely though that a poor carpenter´s son in Palestine would have been able to buy it. Roman scholar Pliny the Elder who lived from 23-79 AD - so roughly during the same period as Jesus - knew all about wine and had written a book on wine. He ranked wine according to quality and talked about dry and sweet wines and the qualities of different vineyards - what we would call terroir today.
His approach to rating vineyards and categorizing wines is similar to the way we do this today, suggesting that the wines back then might be similar to today’s wines and that Terroir was relevant back then too. But Pliny was mainly focused on Italy while Jesus spent most of his time in today's Israel so what were the wines like down there? We know that while wine was also just fermented grape juice it was often flavored with Pepper, Tree resin, honey, pomegranate, cinnamon, and much more and also diluted with water.
Found a wallet on the street. Being a good Christian, I thought, what would Jesus do in my place? So, I turned it into wine.
Scam alert
That’s Antichrist. Wallet’s have ID, you could have found the person on Facebook and messaged them, then used the experience to evangelize. That’s what Christ would have you do had you read the Bible to see his marching orders. I’ll pray for you!
GOD Bless! ❤️
😂😂😂😂😂I love this comment!
Wow, that's one unexpected topic for a wine video! Congrats on that!
Now that you've opened Pandora's box regarding wine history, how about a video on the oldest grape varieties still in use today? I've always found fascinating how the technique of planting cuttings has been able to preserve what are basically clones of the same specimen over the course of millennia
Bulgarian Mavrud (Thracians drank it 5000BC) and Georgian wines probably
@@Synday also Brachetto and some Greek-Italians
@@Synday Wine originated in the Caucasus.
You should definitely do a collaboration with the Tasting History channel! That would be amazing
I can't stand that dude.
Thanks for this, Konstantin! Very interesting, as always. One note: we're told that the Last Supper was held in an "upper room," which was an unusual and rare architectural space in Jesus' day, and therefore almost certainly owned by someone with means. From this and other evidence, we know that there were clearly followers of Jesus who were wealthy. So it is certainly possible that they would have dined on a finer wine at the Last Supper. As you point out, we can't know for sure, but it's a legitimate possibility. Thanks again for this video, and all of your great work! Cheers!
@Amber You're welcome!
"I don't feel Holy, if that's what you're thinking, but it didn't kill me." Best line ever. I love your channel.
thank you mr baum i recently had to take over the wine section of the store i work part time in and with everything I've learned from you i was able to help customers adequately.
you're a blessing!
Wow. What an excellent resource to tap. Excellent idea. I’m sure your customers will benefit!
By the title I thought that this episode would be about tasting variety mass wines. I asked once a Catholic priest why he uses white wine instead of red one for transubstantiation, if this should be blood of Christ and he said to me with sudden honesty: "Because red wine stains cloths used for purification so much and we have a choice".
The thumbnail alone makes it worth watching this video 😂😂😂! Great job, Master!
Jesus, like all gurus, had some wealthy followers. I’m sure he didn’t have to pinch pennies, especially since he knew this was the last wine he’d drink.Good video.
Holy Transubstantiation, wineman!! May God bless you and Jesus be with you.
Jesus is a fictional character.
@@twitherspoon8954 You don't have an open or historically scientific mind.
@@tonydeltablues
So provide evidence that Jesus existed.
@@tonydeltablues
If you have evidence that the Bible figure known as Jesus existed, provide it.
However, it is an absolute fact that there is literally no contemporaneous evidence that Jesus ever existed.
Paul made up the Jesus fiction in 48 AD after the Daniel 9:25 prophesy failed to fulfill.
Shouldn't we expect that if God was walking around for thirty years that the locals would have noticed?
Fun fact: none of the Gospel authors witnessed Jesus.
That was fascinating! I'd never even thought of how the wine back then might have tasted. Loved the throwaway "Here's some wine I made in my basement" 😄
As for other historical wines to recreate, how about the Malmesy that the Duke of Clarence was reputedly drowned in? 😉
Awesome this is a question I thought for sure you would never examine...glad you did,love your channel and willingness to test yourself in front your subscribers
If love to see some varietal hunting. On round two of making my own wine out of grapes in my folks' backyard and the differences between vines alone has been fascinating.
Fascinating! I LOVE the way you think! The water turned into wine was the GREATEST wine ever!
This is a very fun and informative video. Thank you.
This was an interesting video and quite intriguing. I read about this in a book, the wine writer hypothesizing about the wine at the Last Supper might have tasted like.
Anyone who is interested in wine regardless of whether they are religious or not should have this background information. As it's part of wine's collective cultural and historical narrative.
Mal wieder ein tolles & informatives Video. Bin echt froh deinen Kanal entdeckt zuhaben, bist ein super Typ Konstantin :)
This one made me click right away. I was thinking, What is Konstantin going to do??? Did not expect it to be as funny as it was in certain parts. But a great video. Nice job!
Good thing I'm watching this almost at midday here (Buenos Aires), cause your videos always make me want to have a glass.
I'm feeling really intrigue about how the colonial wines have tasted in Spanish América, I mean, the ones made by Jesuits, Dominicans and so on. Here in Argentina one of the offsprings of those first vineyards is really popular: the aromatic Torrontés (the Riojana one, name after the province of La Rioja, North of Mendoza and San Juan)
Thanks for your videos!
Love the arch melody at the end
My family came from Polizzi Generosa, Sicily, named by King Frederick II. He and his army came to our tiny village around 1200AD hoping to resupply and wary he might be attacked. My ancestors were gourmets and not warriors, and a King visiting was a cause for great celebration. Our food and wine impressed him so much he gave us the name 'Generosa' and for the next 800 years, we'd pay taxes directly to the king. I'd love to see your take on what type of wine my ancestors served King Frederick II. I doubt our goats, sheep, beans and artichokes made as much of an impression as our wine.
This was very funny. I laughed my ass off🤣. It might taste like glògg people drink during chrismas here. Its served hot though. But same principle of adding herps and swettnes but also raisins and almonds.
As a Protestant Christian and avid wine drinker I found this video really intriguing! There are so many instances of wine and imageries of vineyards in the Bible it’s just impossible to ignore! Just curious about what you think regarding something I read on Vivino, that apparently the wine served at the last supper was a Primitivo? Would love to hear from you!
I think that's what I am addressing in the video. It could have been a wine made from dried grapes like a Amarone or some Primitivos. I don't think they are saying it was made from that variety.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Ah I see! Thanks for clarifying! I am curious though about what variety was in the wine you made in your cellar, can you reveal it or do you have to kill me :P
@@Docbyday i think its pinot noir
Great episode. Loved it.
How about the wine Julius Caesar drunk, or Alexander the Great or Charles the Great? I heard Alexander the Great really loved his wines and as he travelled (and conquered) the middle east, he would initiate experiments with wines all over his empire. So I am sure he had some favourites.
The thumbnail is 🔥!! Great topic and I cracked up when you said it’s unlikely a poor carpenter’s son could have afforded that wine LOLOLOL.
I always crack up when people quote the ancient history of wine when in reality, the oldest wines are aromatized with plenty of other things at the time that would have been ‘yummy’ back then.
I was thinking it would probably have had rue in it.
Joesph of Arimathea, Issa uncle, was the wealthiest man in palestine at that point.
Where do you get this information?
@@rimmersbryggeri Inventing Wine by Paul Lukacs is a great read
@@drmatthewhorkey Should look that up. I assume that most wine 2000 years ago would have been pretty sour and unappealing and they put all those spices herbs and sweeteners in it just to make it palatable. I grew rue this summer which has traditionally been used to mask wine going off and for rue to make it better (Smells like a very overpowering old mans aftershave) it must have been very unappealing indeed to begin with. They probably drank it mostly because they got sick less than if they drank water.
Knowing what u just shared, it’s incredible how there can be Christian rejecting alcohol due to religious reasons, when the Savior himself started his ministry by producing wine for already drunk party guests 😃
I always find it funny when some Baptists argue Jesus turned water into grape juice, which is comparatively boring miracle
@@joelshah1106 also doesn’t make sense when you read the next verses, talking about people „being drunk and barely recognizing the better wine“
As a Christian myself, I never understood these people. Obviously, God didn’t want us to be drunk all the time but I feel like he made it abundantly clear in the Bible that drinking and having a good time with other people is not a bad thing.
@@ColHoganGer90 Agreed. Jesus made wine, Jesus drank wine, and (arguably, if you’re Catholic) wine turns into Jesus. He also low-key endorsed bread, so I can use that to justify my love of carbs.
Maybe try to replicate authentical ancient greek wine. It was supposed to be pretty high in alcohol and almost viscous. Because it was that strong, it was seen as highly uncivilized to drink it pure and it was watered down in a ratio 1:2 up to 1:4.
As a nice side note for example: Odysseus gave thy cyclops Polyphem pure wine to make him drunk quickly and then blind him.
The book of 2 Maccabees 15:38-39 shows that wine diluted in water was already consumed among the Jewish people. And the Talmud also mentions wine being diluted by several parts water to 1 part wine, as in Shabbat 77, for example. The Jewish Encyclopedia points out that diluting wine made it morally acceptable and could be blessed. And the Pesachim 108 b:2 still says, in full letters, that in those times it was not common for people to consume pure wine (i.e., without diluting it in water).
At Passover, the Dead Sea manuscripts point to an expectation that the Messiah would not consume fermented wine and would pronounce, over it, a blessing. (Qunram Manuscript (from the Dead Sea) - The Messianic Rule (of the Congregation) - 1QSa (or 1Q28a) 2:11-12, 17, 21-22) The Encyclopedia further states, "Jesus with his disciples entered Jerusalem to eat the Passover...the unleavened bread and unfermented wine of the Seder cult." (The Jewish Encyclopedia: Jesus of Nazareth.) Furthermore, Exodus 13:7 prohibited leaven or anything fermented from being among the people during this passover period.
So, considering this information (and others), it seems more likely that Jesus would have consumed diluted wine, rather than the opposite, in everyday life and religious celebrations; in addition to "unfermented wine" (grape juice), according to these Jewish sources above.
As for the text of Isaiah 1:22, the word that appears is cobe (סבא) which would not be wine, necessarily. According to "The IVP Bible Background Commentary on the Old Testament," one of the best at present, many scholars consider the drink mentioned
here is beer, and not wine, because of the
related term in Akkadian.
Just wanted to share this information to add to the amazing content of your video. Thank you very much for it.
Forgive me if my English is not very correct, I am from Brazil.
Thank you konstantin
Thank you again for this extremely interesting video. I would like to see if you can do a deep dive video on Georgian Wine, especially with the Teinturier grapes. A red/black grape with red pulp. I would like to know your thoughts on how will it contribute to the flavors and texture of the wine.
From a chefs point of view. I would perhaps warm the wine with the spices. Then leave to cool. A little like mulled wine I suppose.
Can’t scroll past this thumbnail 😂 well done Konstantin
In the days of the Egyptian times. When they made wine they used Olive Oil to help preserve the wine. So it would not spoil sitting around to long. So I am not saying it had it in it or Jesus Christ drank it. But more than likely the Wine Jesus Christ drank had Olive Oil in it. To preserve it from spoiling.
You need the wine from the Wedding at Cana. Has to be 100, best wine ever. Literally made by God.
You can also make a Jesus's wine from the Crucifiction. In Poland we are calling it "Żółć" (the yellow), and it was wine with myhrr.
I've personally always been fascinated by Falernian wine. It seems to have been something like a sherry crossed with a retsina (it was commonly flavoured with resin), but *always* diluted when drunk, sometimes with the addition of honey. If you could pull it off, I'd love to watch a video about that!
I hope you don’t mind me asking, but I’m curious. What are your beliefs Konstantine? Thanks for this interesting video :) I’m Christian personally, and it’s funny to think wine has been so important to the religion and yet most Protestants use grape juice instead (they tend to do so to avoid tempting alcoholics). Great video as always!
Interesting video.
Since you used your home made Pinot for this, I have always wondered how it turned out. You did a tasting of your Riesling but never the Pinot.
I will do it ... just haven't come around to it yet
where is the part two of the (making my own) pinot series? this seems like a part 3 or 4 :P
You should try to recreate a symposium wine from Ancient Greece.
I really enjoyed this video! I teach history and religion, and obviously love wine. Ticks all the boxes!
After the 185 years old Madeira, I thought you've actually found the holy grail, I'm slightly disappointed... And relieved at the same time. Great video master K.
I always assumed that he drank Chateau Petrus 🤷🏻♂️
I enjoyed this video. I wonder how many wedding feast invitations you are going to receive going forward? 🤔
Second part of the red wine making!!! We want it!!!😅😅😅
Apparently Napoleon in exile drank a lot of sweet wine from South Africa called Grand Constance.
hi konstantin, can you make a vieo where you taste the weird niche of natural wines tasting some of them please ?
Really cool video idea!
"Legend says that at the time of the Roman Empire, first Julius Caesar and then Marcus Anthony arrived in Egypt at the court of the beautiful Cleopatra with a bottle of “Vinum Acquense”, much appreciated by the Queen to awaken the ardour of her legendary lovers. The “Vinum Acquense” was sweet by nature, lively and intoxicating; it came from today’s Alto Monferrato. And above all, it was believed to have aphrodisiac power." Brachetto D'Acqui?
I suggest you to recreate the first wine that was discovered ever, in Georgia's amphoras. :)
Thank you so much for this video!! Very well made and interesting
Seeing as the Last Supper was a Jewish ritual, the wine used would likely have had to be pure wine, no added spices, even though that was certainly very common at the time for a more casual setting.
Back in the day people used to throw in whatever spices just tasted good and in some cases would get you drunk a bit quicker
Hi Konstantin,
You should try Hypocras which is a medieval styled wine that is produced in Corbières (southern France) by the Domaine du Cardona. I assume the style to be quite similar to what you have tried at home as the "recipe" is very similar with some spices and honey.
Stay thirsty ;)
Scam?
Htpocras was medieval, which is about 1000 years later.
Afterwards could you tell us about Romam era wine, as was drunk at Pompeii?
I second this. A video series on ancient wines would be great. Speculating is fun and interesting.
Next up: recreate or find and try tasting the amantillado from Poe's 1846 story The Cask of Amontillado!
A deep dive into the Roman age would be nice to know what kind of wine they have drank
Not the Bembel 😭😅
I do like mulled wine, my only problem is that every time I go to the store to buy cheap wine to mull, I think "I won't get the really cheap rubbish"...then it turns out to be nice and I just drink it. This year I'm buying a box.
I was ready to be snarky too, but once again, brilliant and educational.
When I read about historical Middle Age vineyards in Poland they were almost exclusively established for liturgical purposes, because wine for Catholic mass has to be made entirely from grapes and importing wine from traditional regions was expensive.
Haha, great off-topic wine content 😂 never knew wine was consumed like this back then!
The grail could also be a serving platter or a tray.
Well done, "You have saved the fine wine until now." So said the director of the feast. The only differents is if you was that director Konstantin I could see you keeping a few jars for yourself, or should I say wine skins!...hehe!
You should start your own wine brand called konstantine
I know you can't get the berries there but here in the southeastern USA ( I'm in Atlanta Georgia ) we have Muscadines which are considered a wild gape, perhaps you have heard of them. If you are ever in this part of the country give the wine a try both red and white. Thanks for your Holy Grail video,, are you still alive :):) ???
Well, I got a reply so you're alive and well! :) I love your channel and what you bring to your viewers! I enjoy both being thirsty and hungry for knowledge and that's what you give us. thank you. “In vino veritas”
What a fun thought experiment. Thank you!
Is this the same red wine you did the "How to make red wine part 1"? I never saw the 2nd part and was curious if this is the one :)
How long could one store wine in the living room without spoiling it? Our bottles are for consumtion but it's nice to have an assortment at home. Some could remain unopened for a few years. The stand is in the shadier side of the apartment in a Nordic country. Completely OT, but latest video.
Really fascinating, would love to see some more historical content
Fascinating ❤
Ulysses sailed the "wine dark seas" & seems to have drunk his share in his odyssey. Perhaps his beverage was closer to Retsina. Any thoughts on what the bronze age Greeks would have drunk?
5:07 Oh, you are making glögg. 😄
Pliny said that ideally wine should be enjoyed just for its own taste, without any additives. I wonder how much this advice was followed, what percentage of wines drunk had flavours added to them. Perhaps only the very best quality wines were enjoyed on their own.
That singing 😂😂😂❤
oh wow! this is deep historical research!
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i think they where experts in mixing in spices,and would not throw inn some spices like its the first time.
I am not that sure if Jesus drank cheap wine for the last supper. Sure, your argument sounds totally logical and a few month ago I thought the same but then I watched a TV documentary about the Holy Grail which made me at least sceptical about this. In this documentation they asked the question why most of the pictures if the grail show some really expensiv golden cups and why some of the goblets which are mentioned to be the grail are covered by gold an gemstones. They pointed out that Jesus had some really wealthy supporters who might have "sponsored" their dishes for the last supper and so they might also have sponsored more expensive wine. I am definetely not sure what to believe (also as an atheist it is not that important to me) but, this makes it without any doubt more difficult to say what kind of wine Jesus had.
Anyway, great video on a really interesting und unusual topic.
Other famous wines? Chateau d' Issan often suggests that their wine (or at least wine from that area) was already on the tables of the guests to the wedding of Henry Plantagenet and Eleonor of Aquitaine (the parents of Richard the Loinheart). I do not expect you to check if this is true but maybe you could check which grape varieties were used in that region in this time and how the wine was made then.
Hmm…..can’t think of a real historical one, but they’re constantly drinking wine on Game of Thrones…..are there any notes on what that was like?
This reminds me of the Black Books episode "Grapes of Wrath"
Maybe you should have tried using a wooden cup...not viking-ish looking but more of cups that fishermen used. Just a thought
I looked that up and apparently they did not use wooden cups for wine in that region.
Thanks for this video
Maybe try terroir of Israel by the way i’ve read they have found a old variety and some wineries wine with it that would be interesting to try
There was one variety that was created in a lab by a university, but it was never made commercial. All commercial Israeli wines are basically French style, mostly Bordeaux. They are phenomenal, but you could easily mistake it for a French wine.
Too funny! great idea!!!! loved it!!!
Israeli wine is actually quite good. This is something you should try!
He said that it would be too good for this experiment--so he must have tried them
Israeli wine is indeed really good, but it is mostly French style. There is nothing in common between modern Israeli wine and ancient Israeli wine.
There are two reasons to believe that the wine used for the Last Supper may have been of better quality than for everyday consumption: 1) When Jesus Christ performed the miracle of turning water into wine at Cana, the guests praised the attendants for the good quality of that wine 2) Christ did not shy away from quality goods, when a woman poured expensive oil on his head, he praised her for it and they threw lots about his robes because it was of good material.
Fair points!
I always knew it, the holy grail was a bembel!
Amazing how much drier a wine without additives is.
Gunna need a geenie lamp to light the way!
Other historic wines? How about the winners of the 1976 Judgment of Paris wines?
Great video.
What about re creating wine from Ancient Greece ? Don’t they actually have still existing samples and recipes ?
I suppose it might be interesting to ponder, but we can never know, if a wine drinker from Jesus’ time would enjoy our wine? When Jesus performed his miracle at Cana the wine steward was taken aback, noting that one normally serves the best wine first and a lesser vintage after everyone was already well lubricated, but Jesus’ wine was clearly better than what they had to begin with. So, assuming we’ve made “progress” in the art of winemaking over the past 2000 years, what would that wine steward think of a modern wine? Would he say that at least it didn’t kill him?
I think those spices would have been out of Jesus' price range. They had to be imported from the East, and while the Roman trade network with the East was likely far better than what it was in dark ages Europe, it's still a very long way to get pepper!
Pretty humorous!
Really? In what chapter he did?
That bowl reminds me of a scottish quaic
🏴 wisky only
Hallo Konstantin, tolles Video
Man sagt ja ein Glas Wein am Tag ist gesund, ?! Versuch doch mal den gesündesten Wein zu produzieren.
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