👏👏congratulations on a successful conversion. I was very impressed by your detailed video and reading everyone’s questions and seeing your replies to them. This is what a youtube channel should be all about. Your precise filmed and explained video have educated many and sparked great conversation on the topic. Thank you for your time and effort. 🙌
Great video! I would never attempt this myself but it is great to see it done. I have an nx 2018 with the Aisin A/T and I'm encouraged by your comparison of it against the jatco... my impression is these pajeros are well built and will last if looked after... I had a nissan xtrail with the jatco cvt and it was pretty ordinary, noisy and not terribly responsive to driver input. Glad I'm rid of it.. 😅
Thanks Peter, they are well built but the NS model is a bit rough around the edges compared to the later models. I had an outlander with a CVT, similar experience! Next video will be the engine swap from an NX - stay tuned :)
Bit late I know but you’re mental , I’d rather park it somewhere and leave the keys on the bonnet and hope some little scrotum would flog it and burn it. I’m sincerely jealous of your skills tho. Good work mate 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Mate I'm impressed. I own a PB Challenger with the same JatcoV5A5A. I've been fortunate not to have any issues to date given that I regularly tow 2.5 tonne caravan. I'm running a MM4X4 transmission module (lockup kit) that works a treat, worth looking into. Hope it gives trouble free miles for you.
Cheers mate. How many k’s on your Challenger? I was expecting at least 300km+ for mine but I’m not sure dyno tuning my Paj helped the Jatco’s lifespan I have the lockup-mate :) Marshall was very helpful and made a custom version of the software to work with my new setup (NS engine ECU / NT transmission ECU)
Just turned 200k and about to set off on a lap. I'm fairly particular about servicing the g/b I do it myself and have done roughly 4 full flushes and the rest have been just the pan and filter 9 in total.......anal, but it seems to be paying off. hope all goes well the the new box on yours, its not a cheap exercise either rebuilding or replacing.
@@grants2815jealous as about the lap - I’m sure it tows great. You are right about the servicing. We have a good dealer here locally and mine was done every 45k on the dot there along with coolant + brake fluid flush every 2 years and I never had any issues
Hey Mate, this video should be at 1M likes if it was up to me. Great Job on this. I am actually in need of swapping out my transmission from the NS to the version that you have. I am now freaking out with the mods I have to do on the harness. I wish you had a separate video on just that bit. You have educated me with some crucial info that I did not have. This swap could have been disastrous since I was clueless. Thanks Mate. Do you know, of any other resources on this that you can point me to? what's the type of exhaust pipe you changed from the turbo? any part #s. Thanks
Thanks mate! The wiring is very straight forward - as long as you get the loom that goes up into the dash + the 4WD transfer ECU (and for simplicity, grab the ASC/TC ECU and transmission ECU from the donor car) When you get the transmission ECU, make sure to get the plugs from it and about 10cm of the wiring harness. Here is what I did: I ran 12 extra wires to the transmission ECU from the transmission harness via a 12 pin Deutsch connector, using: 7 core trailer wire; 4 core shielded wire with earth wire (for the input/output shaft speed sensors.. stepper motor cable works well) There was a single wire I ran from the old 4WD transfer ECU wiring on the DASH side (pin 8 on connector D228, a 14 pin connector), which is the OBD pin 1 wire, and connected to the transmission ECU Move pin 2 on connector D227 (10 pin connector), on the TRANSMISSION side of the loom, move to the empty pin 3 on connector D228 (TRANSMISSION side of the loom) - this powers the 4WD transfer ECU Cut / remove pin 10 on connector D225 (the large, 39 pin connector), on the TRANSMISSION side of the loom And some twisted pair to connect the 4WD transfer ECU on to the canbus (splice on to the ASC/TC canbus wires - as those wires are the main bus line) All the wiring diagrams are here faq.out-club.ru/download/pajero_iv/maintenance/Service_Manual_2008_2013/2008_eur/index_M1.htm you can’t go wrong if you test all the wires back to the gearbox. The exhaust is a full system “king brown” from pacemaker I had laying there for years but I didn’t get around to fitting it because my auxiliary fuel tank is in the way at the back of the car. There are other manufacturers as well that may be able to make something that suits your car. Hope this helps your project
awesome vid mate very informative! I am trying to self diagnose my transmission issues after it has had some water in the tranny, what device and program did you use on your laptop? I am trying to find out whether i have an ECU, Wiring or other electrical issue or water damage to the tranny before i replace my tranny, i have a 2020 NX with the Aisin V5AWF. Thanks in advance.
Gday, I’m using the Mitsubishi diagnostic, “MUT3” and the companion software on a windows laptop. What happened to your box? And what are the symptoms?
@TravelingBanker is it possible to buy this MUT3 device? After a full forward flush using about 15L of Penrith ATF LV for my Aisin, it's not shifting past 3rd, TC feels like it's slipping a lot and doesn't lock up in gear even with Auto Mate. Is there a way to DM you about this?
@@johnsmith-ek8mf a quick google will bring up your MUT3 options. How did the water get in? And have you taken the sump off the transmission to inspect? Your issue does sound mechanical and I suggest you seek out a reputable transmission specialist to help you diagnose the repair. There’s a link to my instagram page in the About tab - open to connect with you there.
@@pvcs1754 I know what you mean - how did I go from reading Street Machine mags to this lol.. what’s your next big mod? I’m tossing up between a front mount intercooler or a valve body upgrade
@@TravelingBanker I have the Jonny TIG intercooler, which I feel is one of my best mods so far. Next planned mod is water/meth injection. I don't want to have to back out of the throttle towing a heavy van up big hills anymore to control EGT's.
@@pvcs1754 I have the same problem when towing the camper trailer. Depending on the gear I’m in I’m choosing between high IA or high EGT. Have been looking at the Jonny tig IC (everytime I look at it the price goes up 😂).. any tips on the install? Maybe the water-meth injection is the next mod 🤔
Thanks mate. I’m using the MUT VCI hardware. I had to set the software to a 2009+ model so it would connect correctly with the transmission and transfer ECUs.. it didn’t seem to affect connection to the engine ECU
Really good question and it is one I asked myself. If you weigh up the cost of a reconditioned Jatco VS what I outlaid for the swap, it worked out a similar cost.. and why would you want a second hand transmission from a different model when you could have a reconditioned replacement for the same price and less hassle? Firstly, the Aisin is simply a better and stronger box with a deep source of spare parts and aftermarket bits. The original transmission had done nearly 260,000km - I read many instances of failure between 250-350,000km for the Jatco whereas the Aisin has a long reputation for reliability at more than 500,000km. The transmission I installed apparently had low kms - about 80,000km.. VS a reconditioned Jatco, I’m ahead on lifespan and even if something does happen, I’ve got lots of late model wrecks to choose from for parts. Secondly, the ECU has been programmed for higher engine output, exceeding what the Jatco was engineered for (this is why Mitsubishi changed to the Aisin for the higher output Pajero engine) - if I replaced what I had with the same, there was a high probability I would be back in the same situation in, maybe, another 100,000km.. not ideal. And lastly, I can’t find anyone who has done this.. but I have seen a lot of people saying either it can’t be done or is not worth the hassle of trying - it was a worthwhile project in the end but there was some procrastinating along the way.
Hi , good job. Next month I´ll swap a V5AWF (170.000 km few bad smell problems) with a newer V5AWF (30.000 km both from Mitsubishi Montero/Pajero 2016). I don´t have the transmission ECU for the new V5AWF. My questions to the expert: Can I expect problems with the Can Bus ? Will be necessary a ECU learning ? Many thanks.
Gday, sorry I missed your question. No dramas if its the same transmission. You can do an ECU relearn and covered here faq.out-club.ru/download/pajero_iv/maintenance/Service_Manual_2008_2013/2013/23/html/M123114280001600ENG.HTM - once transmission is up to operating temp: In the 5th gear (D range) and with the throttle opening at 25 to 35%, drive until the vehicle speed becomes 80 km/h or more. Subsequently, release the accelerator pedal to decelerate, and stop the vehicle by taking 60 seconds or more. Repeat this process for 10 times. Check the shift shock is good, else repeat procedure.
Great job!!! Would you happen to know what inputs are required to make the original V5A51 transmission computer function correctly with the original transmission? Ie: in regard to an engine conversion on an '08 model, does the auto ecu just require throttle position from the pedal, vehicle speed sensor input and engine RPM siglal? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks mate. Does this link help? What is your project? faq.out-club.ru/download/pajero_iv/maintenance/Service_Manual_2008_2013/2008_eur/23/html/M223010100020600ENG.HTM
I don’t know the answer. If it physically fits then your only challenge are the electrics - the transmission ecu might not play well in the NM but you could get an aftermarket controller for the v5awf (aisin a750f)
Hi! my 2008 montero/pajero 3.8 reverse gear is not working. I am thinking to swap only gear box and I have the chance to swap it with other one that came from a 2019 Montero diesel. Do you think that this will work using same electronic?
From memory, the auto in the petrol version has the control built into the engine ecu.. anything is possible but you may need aftermarket controllers to make it all work.
@@johnnystoka6625 I don’t know the answer. If it physically fits then your only challenge are the electrics - the newer transmission ecu might not play well in the NP but you could get an aftermarket controller for the v5awf (aisin a750f)
Thank you Sir. I have to change the rear seal of my Pajero, and even I had dowloaded the service manuals, I still had some questions.
I haven’t replaced a rear seal yet. Once the gearbox is out of the way, it does look straight forward
@gfour21 hi do you mind letting me know from where you downloaded the service manuals? Thanks
@@ricoss4010 google mmc-manuals mitsubishi
@@ricoss4010 faq.out-club.ru/download/pajero_iv/maintenance/Service_Manual_2008_2013/2008_eur/index_M1.htm
👏👏congratulations on a successful conversion. I was very impressed by your detailed video and reading everyone’s questions and seeing your replies to them. This is what a youtube channel should be all about. Your precise filmed and explained video have educated many and sparked great conversation on the topic. Thank you for your time and effort. 🙌
Appreciate your comments. Thank you
Thank you... i have blown 2 x V5A51 transmissions. Super keen to undertake this Aisin conversion, you may hear from me in the future several time :)
Best upgrade you’ll ever do. I’ve even done the engine as well. Happy to share what i can to help
Hello, can this same conversion be done with a 4M40 engine?
SERIOUSLY high school wiring understanding!
Great video! I would never attempt this myself but it is great to see it done. I have an nx 2018 with the Aisin A/T and I'm encouraged by your comparison of it against the jatco... my impression is these pajeros are well built and will last if looked after... I had a nissan xtrail with the jatco cvt and it was pretty ordinary, noisy and not terribly responsive to driver input. Glad I'm rid of it.. 😅
Thanks Peter, they are well built but the NS model is a bit rough around the edges compared to the later models. I had an outlander with a CVT, similar experience! Next video will be the engine swap from an NX - stay tuned :)
Bit late I know but you’re mental , I’d rather park it somewhere and leave the keys on the bonnet and hope some little scrotum would flog it and burn it. I’m sincerely jealous of your skills tho. Good work mate 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Cheers mate.. wait till you see what happened a year later to the engine :O
Mate I'm impressed.
I own a PB Challenger with the same JatcoV5A5A. I've been fortunate not to have any issues to date given that I regularly tow 2.5 tonne caravan.
I'm running a MM4X4 transmission module (lockup kit) that works a treat, worth looking into.
Hope it gives trouble free miles for you.
Cheers mate.
How many k’s on your Challenger?
I was expecting at least 300km+ for mine but I’m not sure dyno tuning my Paj helped the Jatco’s lifespan
I have the lockup-mate :) Marshall was very helpful and made a custom version of the software to work with my new setup (NS engine ECU / NT transmission ECU)
Just turned 200k and about to set off on a lap.
I'm fairly particular about servicing the g/b I do it myself and have done roughly 4 full flushes and the rest have been just the pan and filter 9 in total.......anal, but it seems to be paying off.
hope all goes well the the new box on yours, its not a cheap exercise either rebuilding or replacing.
@@grants2815jealous as about the lap - I’m sure it tows great.
You are right about the servicing. We have a good dealer here locally and mine was done every 45k on the dot there along with coolant + brake fluid flush every 2 years and I never had any issues
Hey Mate, this video should be at 1M likes if it was up to me. Great Job on this. I am actually in need of swapping out my transmission from the NS to the version that you have. I am now freaking out with the mods I have to do on the harness. I wish you had a separate video on just that bit. You have educated me with some crucial info that I did not have. This swap could have been disastrous since I was clueless. Thanks Mate. Do you know, of any other resources on this that you can point me to? what's the type of exhaust pipe you changed from the turbo? any part #s. Thanks
Thanks mate! The wiring is very straight forward - as long as you get the loom that goes up into the dash + the 4WD transfer ECU (and for simplicity, grab the ASC/TC ECU and transmission ECU from the donor car)
When you get the transmission ECU, make sure to get the plugs from it and about 10cm of the wiring harness.
Here is what I did:
I ran 12 extra wires to the transmission ECU from the transmission harness via a 12 pin Deutsch connector, using: 7 core trailer wire; 4 core shielded wire with earth wire (for the input/output shaft speed sensors.. stepper motor cable works well)
There was a single wire I ran from the old 4WD transfer ECU wiring on the DASH side (pin 8 on connector D228, a 14 pin connector), which is the OBD pin 1 wire, and connected to the transmission ECU
Move pin 2 on connector D227 (10 pin connector), on the TRANSMISSION side of the loom, move to the empty pin 3 on connector D228 (TRANSMISSION side of the loom) - this powers the 4WD transfer ECU
Cut / remove pin 10 on connector D225 (the large, 39 pin connector), on the TRANSMISSION side of the loom
And some twisted pair to connect the 4WD transfer ECU on to the canbus (splice on to the ASC/TC canbus wires - as those wires are the main bus line)
All the wiring diagrams are here faq.out-club.ru/download/pajero_iv/maintenance/Service_Manual_2008_2013/2008_eur/index_M1.htm you can’t go wrong if you test all the wires back to the gearbox.
The exhaust is a full system “king brown” from pacemaker I had laying there for years but I didn’t get around to fitting it because my auxiliary fuel tank is in the way at the back of the car. There are other manufacturers as well that may be able to make something that suits your car.
Hope this helps your project
awesome vid mate very informative!
I am trying to self diagnose my transmission issues after it has had some water in the tranny, what device and program did you use on your laptop?
I am trying to find out whether i have an ECU, Wiring or other electrical issue or water damage to the tranny before i replace my tranny, i have a 2020 NX with the Aisin V5AWF.
Thanks in advance.
Gday, I’m using the Mitsubishi diagnostic, “MUT3” and the companion software on a windows laptop.
What happened to your box? And what are the symptoms?
@TravelingBanker is it possible to buy this MUT3 device?
After a full forward flush using about 15L of Penrith ATF LV for my Aisin, it's not shifting past 3rd, TC feels like it's slipping a lot and doesn't lock up in gear even with Auto Mate.
Is there a way to DM you about this?
@@johnsmith-ek8mf a quick google will bring up your MUT3 options. How did the water get in? And have you taken the sump off the transmission to inspect? Your issue does sound mechanical and I suggest you seek out a reputable transmission specialist to help you diagnose the repair. There’s a link to my instagram page in the About tab - open to connect with you there.
Big job, well executed swap over, congrats.
many thanks.
wow your keen mate,kudos to you, no way i would attempt this conversion. LOL
Wait till you see the engine swap video…
Nice work. Seems there is nothing you can't do on a Pajero. Keep posting vids on your work, they are invaluable.
Thanks mate, what pajero do you have?
@@TravelingBanker 2011 NT with plenty of mods. Rev head at heart. Lol
@@pvcs1754 I know what you mean - how did I go from reading Street Machine mags to this lol.. what’s your next big mod? I’m tossing up between a front mount intercooler or a valve body upgrade
@@TravelingBanker I have the Jonny TIG intercooler, which I feel is one of my best mods so far. Next planned mod is water/meth injection. I don't want to have to back out of the throttle towing a heavy van up big hills anymore to control EGT's.
@@pvcs1754 I have the same problem when towing the camper trailer. Depending on the gear I’m in I’m choosing between high IA or high EGT.
Have been looking at the Jonny tig IC (everytime I look at it the price goes up 😂).. any tips on the install?
Maybe the water-meth injection is the next mod 🤔
Nice job!
I've seen the MUT-3 software. What hardware interface are you using?
Thanks!
Thanks mate.
I’m using the MUT VCI hardware.
I had to set the software to a 2009+ model so it would connect correctly with the transmission and transfer ECUs.. it didn’t seem to affect connection to the engine ECU
@@TravelingBanker Thanks for the confirmation. I was kind of hoping you were able to use a 3rd party interface with CAN Pass-thru :D
Why have you swapped transmission instead of replacing with working one? Newer is better? Why?
Really good question and it is one I asked myself. If you weigh up the cost of a reconditioned Jatco VS what I outlaid for the swap, it worked out a similar cost.. and why would you want a second hand transmission from a different model when you could have a reconditioned replacement for the same price and less hassle?
Firstly, the Aisin is simply a better and stronger box with a deep source of spare parts and aftermarket bits. The original transmission had done nearly 260,000km - I read many instances of failure between 250-350,000km for the Jatco whereas the Aisin has a long reputation for reliability at more than 500,000km. The transmission I installed apparently had low kms - about 80,000km.. VS a reconditioned Jatco, I’m ahead on lifespan and even if something does happen, I’ve got lots of late model wrecks to choose from for parts.
Secondly, the ECU has been programmed for higher engine output, exceeding what the Jatco was engineered for (this is why Mitsubishi changed to the Aisin for the higher output Pajero engine) - if I replaced what I had with the same, there was a high probability I would be back in the same situation in, maybe, another 100,000km.. not ideal.
And lastly, I can’t find anyone who has done this.. but I have seen a lot of people saying either it can’t be done or is not worth the hassle of trying - it was a worthwhile project in the end but there was some procrastinating along the way.
Hi , good job. Next month I´ll swap a V5AWF (170.000 km few bad smell problems) with a newer V5AWF (30.000 km both from Mitsubishi Montero/Pajero 2016). I don´t have the transmission ECU for the new V5AWF. My questions to the expert: Can I expect problems with the Can Bus ? Will be necessary a ECU learning ? Many thanks.
Gday, sorry I missed your question. No dramas if its the same transmission. You can do an ECU relearn and covered here faq.out-club.ru/download/pajero_iv/maintenance/Service_Manual_2008_2013/2013/23/html/M123114280001600ENG.HTM - once transmission is up to operating temp: In the 5th gear (D range) and with the throttle opening at 25 to 35%, drive until the vehicle speed becomes 80 km/h or more. Subsequently, release the accelerator pedal to decelerate, and stop the vehicle by taking 60 seconds or more. Repeat this process for 10 times. Check the shift shock is good, else repeat procedure.
@@TravelingBanker Thanks a lot for taking your time answering my question. Looking forward for your next programs . Best regards
Great job!!! Would you happen to know what inputs are required to make the original V5A51 transmission computer function correctly with the original transmission?
Ie: in regard to an engine conversion on an '08 model, does the auto ecu just require throttle position from the pedal, vehicle speed sensor input and engine RPM siglal?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks mate. Does this link help? What is your project? faq.out-club.ru/download/pajero_iv/maintenance/Service_Manual_2008_2013/2008_eur/23/html/M223010100020600ENG.HTM
Nice work. I am wondering if you know whether the same upgrade can be done on a Gen 3 NM Pajero that runs the same V5A51 tranny.
I don’t know the answer. If it physically fits then your only challenge are the electrics - the transmission ecu might not play well in the NM but you could get an aftermarket controller for the v5awf (aisin a750f)
Hi! my 2008 montero/pajero 3.8 reverse gear is not working. I am thinking to swap only gear box and I have the chance to swap it with other one that came from a 2019 Montero diesel. Do you think that this will work using same electronic?
From memory, the auto in the petrol version has the control built into the engine ecu.. anything is possible but you may need aftermarket controllers to make it all work.
Did you get this working ?
Yes
@@TravelingBanker So I gather it will never work on an NP Pajero ?
@@johnnystoka6625 I don’t know the answer. If it physically fits then your only challenge are the electrics - the newer transmission ecu might not play well in the NP but you could get an aftermarket controller for the v5awf (aisin a750f)
HELLO! Can I install the 3.8 gearbox on the 3.2 DiD diesel? I think it's the same.. or should i replace something else?
I believe the bell housing and torque converter are the only difference but you could swap those over.
Torque converters are the same, only bellhousing @@TravelingBanker
@@horacecunningham7832 thanks for clarifying. Is the stall ratio the same between them?