😆 You guys do all of these tests and never factor in all of the variables. You literally have a warehouse with your own decks and wheels, just get two of the same decks, same trucks and the same pair of wheels, for free from your own stock, and test them equally side by side. This should be the go to system for all of your tests by now. Love you guys lol ❤
@@nathanrose1103Think what they meant was if and when comparing "bearings" ALL other variables must be identical, i.e trucks, wheels, everything else MUST remain the same across all tests
@@dieseldabz7104 yeah; i was agreeing/ elaborating ! totally agree. different size and weight wheels definitely are a hudge factor... not to mention the other variables
Wow, watching this is incredibly satisfying! Thank you for showcasing the performance of our Race Nanos Bearings. We have been avidly following your amazing work for a long time, and you continue to impress us with your exceptional results. Regarding the tests, using the same wheels undoubtedly enhances precision, as factors like durometer, width, and size can significantly affect performance. We have conducted extensive lab tests ourselves, and it's safe to say that the Cuei Nanos outperform any bearings we've tested so far. We specifically chose the best ones in the market for our evaluations, and the Cuei Nanos have proven to be superior in every aspect. Keep up the fantastic work!
I feel like these nano bearings are definitely meant for acceleration at the cost of long distance speed and distance on a single push, I'd bet they're great for parks that don't have much room between obstacles Also I'd really dig a "testers" series
I feel like these would be amazing for mega-ramps and huge verts, tony hawk type bearings. Also all the people mentioning long-boarding, as a person who loves long-boarding I gotta say that the massive longboard wheels can definitely compensate for the momentum fall-off of these bearings, which would make a world of difference.
@@chrhadden there are enough factors that make that not the case, they've got better acceleration, but they also lose speed faster, they are faster short distance, but might not be long distance where the other bearings have more time to accelerate, better at one thing does not equal better at everything
@@_underscore_9271 that makes sense now ok your right. i don't know why i thought that.the bigger the wheel or ball in this case is better yeah i get it.that makes total sense derrr. for some dumb reason i wanted an excuse to spend a lot of money on bearings i really don't need.
There's definitely an equation that will give you the exact numbers, but the gist of it is that a large bearing will have more potential speed but that the smaller bearing will take less input to get rolling initially. That's why the nanos feel faster initially, they are easier to get going so you get that top speed right away, but the larger bearings having the faster top speed means they'll go further even with slightly more friction than the little guys. Edit: feel like I should also mention that your weight, the wheels and the axels on the trucks will also impact the results. Still a fun test though. I haven't run anything like these but I did spend the whole of last year and a bit of this year going between Bronson G3s, Bones Reds and I tried some Spitfire Cheapshots for a laugh too. Most of the time it seems like its more the durability that matters, the Bronsons lasted consistently longer than the reds, but only be a few days to a week or so. If you guys could get your hands on some quantum bearings, I'd be interested to see how they perform.
They actually the same size buddy, all 608 bearings. In fact the race model has a heavier outside and this increase the top speed in all the tests. The wheels on the test's surely make more difference than the bearings. Urethane formulas change a lot the speed, also the durometer, wide and sizes... That's why when rolling on hands, they actually roll 3 times more, but when the wheels got in the equation they will make more difference. Thanks
I would love to see “testers”, there are infinite numbers of products you can compare, for example I was looking for a comparison between the powell dragon and the OJ wheels to see which one would behave better in bowls and transition, but I couldn’t find a single video. Definitely a great idea 🤙🏼
I find that bearings have to wear in.. the worn in ones spin longer. The brand new ones feel smoother, dont stop easily in one spot and can slip out easier. Or its just the size of the bearing causing differences. Hard to tell. Also I heard somewhere (cant remember where) that Abec rating doesnt really matter, its for machine purposes and doesnt make noticeable difference in skating.
A smaller lighter bearing with both accelerate and decelerate faster. The heavier bearings weight keeps them rolling longer but more force is required to accelerate the same speed.
So true, there should be a follow up series to this to test on longboard vs skateboards and see who benefits most from this. Then, test like you say deceleration speeds on bigger wheels and nano bearings vs bigger wheels and heavier bearings, then the hard wheels vs soft wheels vs small and big bearings. Could be another 20 minute video at least. Please label which one is the nano at all times, when you refer to which one you're talking about. oP
I remember i used to skate bearings that costed like 20 dollars then i was given a set of swiss bones i think ceramics they were called and those bearings were like 120 dollars i think at the time they were way more expensive than everything else but i was sponsored and got the bearings for free this was like 15-20 years ago. But anyways i loved those bearings i could tell the difference for sure same with a couple of my friends
I love watching these guys 😂 they're so serious yet funny i always wanted to get into skateboarding but its to expensive for my fam at least i can watch these guys do there thing
You should be able to get into skating quite cheaply. Look for second hand setups and decks on sale. Hope you find a board man ,it’s very cost effective once you get started . 🤘💪
I believe the main points for them rolling better not pointed out are the outer race is closer to the axle, meaning it’s angular velocity is slower. The slower the ball has to roll in the race, the less friction. It’s REALLY noticeable on something like a bike hub if the bearing is placed on the outer part vs inside. The other point to consider is that more thickness of the outer race means less deformation under radial load/body weight on the board. So the race is more uniform more of the time and will slow you less when rolling over cracks/bumps and landing ollies/drops etc.
I'm pretty sure the wheels influenced your outcome. The bigger the weel the more energy it takes to achieve a certain speed but the longer it will stay in motion. The energy within the board is 'stored' and it loses energy as kinetic energy/momentum and trough friction. The softer the wheel the more friction it will produce an thus the slower it will be. I don't know the exact science of bearings so it would be cool to see you guys try it with the same wheels!
Put a couple water jugs on them, find a short slope, hold the wheels on the line, let go. Find a big rock, use same rock on both. Have someone sit on the board and another person holds the wheels for the drop. Then you don't get differences in what we test guys call "input stimulus".
You need the same sized wheels. One rotation of the larger wheel will always cover a greater distance. Even if the nanos get more rotations, they may not go as far because of the wheel size.
I'm going to sat the small bearings are less friction with no load. But under load they push into the metal more causing more drag. I'm willing to bet they go bad quicker also.
Use the exact same setup with the only difference being the bearings. Make sure the other pair of bearings aren’t broken in. Use an adjustable torque wrench with the bolts tightened down to the exact same.
Friction must be a key component in keeping momentum within the track. Maybe the less friction + weight causes less revolutions in a frictionless medium.
Yes do testers. As for the bearings it's probably like wheels. Small equals better acceleration because it has less revolutions do to but will slow down faster because it does it's spin faster. Big wheels roll longer but take a while to get to top speed, so bearings should be similar.
Love the videos and the evolution through the years. Wish yall the best. I think they are speaking about the precision of the bearing tolerances. Im not entirely versed but 608 bearings are the sizing i assume overall width and axle diameter. Then in the manufacturing process the maker will have a set tolerance for their design which can be unique like 6, 7, 8 ball changing the "race" size but again uniquely to the design. So the claim of "nano"meter precision meaning if in milimeters its precisely made to spec to the 0.000000001 10^-9 versus another completly unique design by another company to a "micro"meter. Materials and shielding lubricant system, is it open one side two side, does it have metal shields rubber shields, grease oil. A more precise bearing made of poor materials will have a much shorter life than a lesser with better quality materials. Shielding based on how much you want to do maintenance or if at all ( if you dont want to do maintenance get full shield unremovable cheaper) Also enviromental factors also some feel rubber seals actual perform better and easier to remove.
It's safe to say that the pink board had crooked trucks or wheels on it. In the first test it was clearly visible that the board couldn't roll straight, thus creating more friction when weight is applied to the board.
Wheel-to-ground friction is your main problem/unknown variable here while testing different bearings. Imagine riding a bike downhill with flat tires and how far you would coast once you were at the bottom of the hill on flat ground. Then imagine pumping the tire pressure up to 20 psi and doing it again, then pumping it to 60 psi and doing it again. Hopefully you wouldn’t think “hey wow the ball bearings on this bike got so much better when I pumped up the tire pressure!”. That’s basically what’s happening with your two skateboards using different wheels with different plastic hardness; it’s a variable between the two skateboards that wildly changes the ability of the bearings to keep the wheels spinning and the distance you can coast. It also explains why the deck with the fancy bearings spins so much longer with the deck flipped over without a person standing on the board; you’ve removed the variable of the ground-to-wheel friction and the wheel hardness (although now you’ve introduced the weight and circumference of the wheel as new variables for the speed of the rotation and the amount of inertia the spun wheel has. If you do decide to make a test channel, PLEASE have someone on your team knowledgeable on the “Scientific Method” and how to implement it when testing, and how to reduce the amount of variables (like using identical wheels when experimenting with different bearings to reduce variables) when testing.
My hypothesis is the fancy bearings how a quicker feel and maybe speedy initially but you have to factor in inertia with more mass it takes longer to slow down. Think of an 18 wheeler or a train takes much longer to slow
from my time when i used to skate i can recall when you bought kew bearings they would be slower until a couple of weeks when thehy got broken into even the sound would change
Hola Mr Horatio Cruz! You need to drop in on the vert with the Tetrimino board + Caster wheels + big red boots + razor sharp grip tape! Looking forward to it 😘
Btw, could you guys do a video about the old school retro decks you sell on the website? You’ve done videos on old school decks in the past, but never your own version. I’ve asked before, and I’ve since looked to see if you’ve made one yet, and I didn’t find anything. Thanks!
Now, im not a physicist but doesn't smaller ball bearings mean dirt and grime will slow them down easier? Maybe they'd be better in a perfect setting where there is no dirt but even dust from the bearings breaking down over time would slow them down more right?
If you think about it, the nano bearings have a thicker side wall than the big ball bearings with thinner side wall hence why the nano "feel" faster. Imagine it like a seesaw! A thicker heavier seesaw will "feel" like it's dropping faster than a thinner seesaw. That's how I see it. As for the mud test, it's a lot more obvious. The nano bearings have less surface area so the bearing was completely coated and could not flick off debris than the bigger ball bearing. That's why the bigger ball were able to clear out the debris easier and keep going.
Can u give some tips/advice for tall people skating? I'm 2 meter tall and sometimes it's such a struggle to learn new tricks and falling hits even harder.
I think because the bearings are smaller they have more points of contact when pressure is applied so when you add the weight of a human it creates more friction (or something like that), maybe if they used the same nano tech on normal size bearings they would perform better?
I believe the bigger bearings cover more distance and the nano bearings are smaller therefore the Nanos feel faster and the normal size bearings feel slower but cover more distance due their size.
Smaller ball bearings will give you higher acceleration, but more drag because the ball bearings have more friction based on surface area. Think of it based on skate wheels vs longboard wheels, you maintain a higher rolls speed with a larger wheel.
Not necessarily so!!! I've tested it for decades! Size doesn't matter! A smaller wheel can be faster sometimes and a bigger wheel can be slower sometimes. So your untested theory is untenable.
@@johnthomas2877 wheel size in fact does matter. Not only do you have to account for revolution rate of each individual wheel based on its circumference but also it’s friction coefficient. Two different size wheels traveling at the same speed will have a different rpm, so it’s also about efficiency. Larger wheels will always have a higher top speed than a smaller one, the trade off is it takes longer to reach its top speed. It’s physics, not an untested theory.
@@Opotamus_0 When it comes to urethane and different durometers you are dealing with an entirely different animal. The physics that you are talking about is out the window trust me I've been skateboarding 55 years of my 65 years and 11 months life. And more recently I've been experimenting with different sizes and durometers. From 55mm up to 100 mm electric skateboard sized front wheels. Just a few days ago I have up on some 80 mm orangatangs after 2 hours and finally switched to 70mm Sector 9s and I was flying!!! So I know what I'm talking about because I been doing this since 2006 several times a week! I got lots of different sized wheels and I been obsessed with the magic of the urethane skateboard wheel. Nobody can tell me elsewise because I know skateboard wheels like you wouldn't believe!
When it comes to the science of the universe... Torque brother. Torque is the key to power in mechanics. Power is energy. Energy can be dispersed in many different ways. Torque is, by effect of energy distribution, the key to efficiency. I'm not even an engineer. I just love torque
Would love to see an analytical approach to this and for these guys to learn some science in the process. (Particularly Aaron) Best way to get into that is probably learn vector operations and representation and brush up on high school physics as most skateboard properties should probably be examined under classical mechanics.
i am no expert, but i have taken a few classes on statistics and psychological research. for the all of the speeds test for the bearings, you need to make sure every other variable except for the bearings are controlled as much as possible. so that means you will more likely get more accurate if you use the same wheels, boards, trucks, and make sure each bearing has the exact same amount of dirt and/or lubricant on it. after that, do not do the speed tests for just one trial, as there are likely other variables that are affecting each individual trail. to account for that as much as possible, test each bearing multiple times for each test and take the averages of all of the results for each bearing tested individually. for example, standing on the skateboard to measure the distance you go should be tested multiple times for each bearing. after an x number of time (the more trials the better) you will get a more accurate picture of the difference between each bearing by comparing the averages between each bearing’s performance. you can do the same thing for other conditions like how far each skateboard travels without someone standing on it, have the wheels free spin and time how long they take to stop, and so on. there are a lot more things that go into making consistent tests, but this is just a very general explanation. hope this long comment helps!
@@brailleskateboarding sweet! Thanks, I'll keep in touch. I'll have to make sure you guys haven't gotten what I'm thinking about making 😅 I don't want to spoil it yet
Conservation of energy is the answer to why the small bearings stop sooner. Smaller bearings take less energy input to spin and stop because they have less mass. Larger bearings take more energy to spin and more energy to stop. Your mass is the constant in both scenarios thus the friction force applied to the larger bearing will take more time to stop in comparison to the smaller bearings
Also one impact after a jump and you can pretty much just forget about the rating entirely. At least with steel bearings; full ceramics might resist deforming up to the point where they just crack but I'm not sure if smaller bits could break off and ruin precision that way.
The sound of the bearings usually can be used to indicate which ones have ness rolling friction, the noise the bearing produce is wasted energy and the louder a bearing sounds, the more energy it is wasting to roll. Long story short: Quieter bearing should roll easier than loud bearings.
Giveaway test... Complete board set-up would be cool for those who can't afford to buy one or who may be intrigued with the sport and want to learn but dont wanna comit to a purchase..
At the beginning of the test the board with the nano bearings turned right abruptly . I think you are slowing down faster on the nanos because the “ Wonky bushings “ are causing “ drag “ . 👨🔬
it seems simple.. bigger bearings means less roll resistance.. id also consider hardness and size of wheels but also vibration throughout the board that may play a roll in interference.
you have to use the same wheels to have an apples to apples comparison. Ideally the entire setup needs to be the same with the only variable being the bearings.
Now the next question in skate science... are those plastic parking blocks skateable but which ones. Skate science could be a weekly feature in the braille army plus app. Like its myth busters but for like skaters we put ricky in a lab coat and Aaron a berret. Edit that sidewalk looks fire.
😆 You guys do all of these tests and never factor in all of the variables. You literally have a warehouse with your own decks and wheels, just get two of the same decks, same trucks and the same pair of wheels, for free from your own stock, and test them equally side by side. This should be the go to system for all of your tests by now. Love you guys lol ❤
Yeah I thought this too? Like what’s the point of having all that stuff and money 😂 when this is how you use it. 😅
My 1st thought too, when I heard wheels as a variable. Just get the same wheels.
has to be one thing you're testing. cant change wheels, trucks, bushings, boards,and bearings to see the difference between bearings!
@@nathanrose1103Think what they meant was if and when comparing "bearings" ALL other variables must be identical, i.e trucks, wheels, everything else MUST remain the same across all tests
@@dieseldabz7104 yeah; i was agreeing/ elaborating ! totally agree. different size and weight wheels definitely are a hudge factor... not to mention the other variables
We for sure need that "Testers" or Braille Labs series 🔥🔥
+1
I would love to see Braille Labs
Agree but promise to at least involve Ricky in the test design process for every video, ideally JDs dad.
Braille Labs for sure!!!
+1 for Braille Labs
I actually really like these videos where you guys compare different products! Keep up the great work, Braille team!
Thanks! Will do!
Wow, watching this is incredibly satisfying! Thank you for showcasing the performance of our Race Nanos Bearings. We have been avidly following your amazing work for a long time, and you continue to impress us with your exceptional results.
Regarding the tests, using the same wheels undoubtedly enhances precision, as factors like durometer, width, and size can significantly affect performance. We have conducted extensive lab tests ourselves, and it's safe to say that the Cuei Nanos outperform any bearings we've tested so far. We specifically chose the best ones in the market for our evaluations, and the Cuei Nanos have proven to be superior in every aspect. Keep up the fantastic work!
Cappin
Can you perform an unbiased comparison against Zealous Bearings? Thanks
I feel like these nano bearings are definitely meant for acceleration at the cost of long distance speed and distance on a single push, I'd bet they're great for parks that don't have much room between obstacles
Also I'd really dig a "testers" series
I feel like these would be amazing for mega-ramps and huge verts, tony hawk type bearings.
Also all the people mentioning long-boarding, as a person who loves long-boarding I gotta say that the massive longboard wheels can definitely compensate for the momentum fall-off of these bearings, which would make a world of difference.
if they are better for one thing they are better for all lol faster=better distance makes no difference they need to use the same wheels
@@chrhadden there are enough factors that make that not the case, they've got better acceleration, but they also lose speed faster, they are faster short distance, but might not be long distance where the other bearings have more time to accelerate, better at one thing does not equal better at everything
@@_underscore_9271 that makes sense now ok your right. i don't know why i thought that.the bigger the wheel or ball in this case is better yeah i get it.that makes total sense derrr. for some dumb reason i wanted an excuse to spend a lot of money on bearings i really don't need.
@@chrhadden That's not true, it's like bigger vs smaller wheels, acceleration vs momentum.
I want to see a "Braille Busters" series. Where y'all test to see if skate products can hold up to there claims.
i knew someone beat me to the chase! i'm glad i'm not the only one thinking they would absolutely rule at the mythbusters format.
That wouldn’t last too long.
There's definitely an equation that will give you the exact numbers, but the gist of it is that a large bearing will have more potential speed but that the smaller bearing will take less input to get rolling initially. That's why the nanos feel faster initially, they are easier to get going so you get that top speed right away, but the larger bearings having the faster top speed means they'll go further even with slightly more friction than the little guys.
Edit: feel like I should also mention that your weight, the wheels and the axels on the trucks will also impact the results. Still a fun test though. I haven't run anything like these but I did spend the whole of last year and a bit of this year going between Bronson G3s, Bones Reds and I tried some Spitfire Cheapshots for a laugh too. Most of the time it seems like its more the durability that matters, the Bronsons lasted consistently longer than the reds, but only be a few days to a week or so. If you guys could get your hands on some quantum bearings, I'd be interested to see how they perform.
They actually the same size buddy, all 608 bearings. In fact the race model has a heavier outside and this increase the top speed in all the tests. The wheels on the test's surely make more difference than the bearings. Urethane formulas change a lot the speed, also the durometer, wide and sizes... That's why when rolling on hands, they actually roll 3 times more, but when the wheels got in the equation they will make more difference. Thanks
I would love to see “testers”, there are infinite numbers of products you can compare, for example I was looking for a comparison between the powell dragon and the OJ wheels to see which one would behave better in bowls and transition, but I couldn’t find a single video. Definitely a great idea 🤙🏼
That is a great video idea
I suspect the softness of the wheel material has more to do with loosing speed than the barings do
Bearings*
@@michaelslifecycleburrings**
Bonobos*
Beerings🍺
*berbings and the overall diameter of the wheel
I find that bearings have to wear in.. the worn in ones spin longer. The brand new ones feel smoother, dont stop easily in one spot and can slip out easier. Or its just the size of the bearing causing differences. Hard to tell. Also I heard somewhere (cant remember where) that Abec rating doesnt really matter, its for machine purposes and doesnt make noticeable difference in skating.
I would genuinely love to watch aaron with his fun personality do testing of various skate products
A smaller lighter bearing with both accelerate and decelerate faster. The heavier bearings weight keeps them rolling longer but more force is required to accelerate the same speed.
So true, there should be a follow up series to this to test on longboard vs skateboards and see who benefits most from this. Then, test like you say deceleration speeds on bigger wheels and nano bearings vs bigger wheels and heavier bearings, then the hard wheels vs soft wheels vs small and big bearings. Could be another 20 minute video at least. Please label which one is the nano at all times, when you refer to which one you're talking about. oP
The Science Behind Skating, that would be a great series
Lets do it
I remember i used to skate bearings that costed like 20 dollars then i was given a set of swiss bones i think ceramics they were called and those bearings were like 120 dollars i think at the time they were way more expensive than everything else but i was sponsored and got the bearings for free this was like 15-20 years ago. But anyways i loved those bearings i could tell the difference for sure same with a couple of my friends
Happy to see Ricky back in full force 🤟
Love Uzi's new haircut!
I love watching these guys 😂 they're so serious yet funny i always wanted to get into skateboarding but its to expensive for my fam at least i can watch these guys do there thing
You should be able to get into skating quite cheaply.
Look for second hand setups and decks on sale.
Hope you find a board man ,it’s very cost effective once you get started .
🤘💪
MAKE TESTERS!!! But make sure when you test use fresh boards with same components because the tiny things make a huge difference.
I believe the main points for them rolling better not pointed out are the outer race is closer to the axle, meaning it’s angular velocity is slower. The slower the ball has to roll in the race, the less friction. It’s REALLY noticeable on something like a bike hub if the bearing is placed on the outer part vs inside. The other point to consider is that more thickness of the outer race means less deformation under radial load/body weight on the board. So the race is more uniform more of the time and will slow you less when rolling over cracks/bumps and landing ollies/drops etc.
As someone who has taken college physics, I can ascertain that I too how no idea how the bearings are working.
I'm pretty sure the wheels influenced your outcome.
The bigger the weel the more energy it takes to achieve a certain speed but the longer it will stay in motion. The energy within the board is 'stored' and it loses energy as kinetic energy/momentum and trough friction.
The softer the wheel the more friction it will produce an thus the slower it will be.
I don't know the exact science of bearings so it would be cool to see you guys try it with the same wheels!
Agreed
A "Testers" channel is a must!
loving tester series idea
Put a couple water jugs on them, find a short slope, hold the wheels on the line, let go. Find a big rock, use same rock on both. Have someone sit on the board and another person holds the wheels for the drop.
Then you don't get differences in what we test guys call "input stimulus".
You need the same sized wheels. One rotation of the larger wheel will always cover a greater distance. Even if the nanos get more rotations, they may not go as far because of the wheel size.
I'm going to sat the small bearings are less friction with no load. But under load they push into the metal more causing more drag. I'm willing to bet they go bad quicker also.
Aaron you are so funny. Watching you down on your knees playing in the mud is peak child like heart.
Call the series “Smithbusters”! Test a bunch of objects, boards, parts, and all kinds of other wacky stuff.
Haha
Should have switched the bearings really quick from one board to the other, That way you could account for the variable of the different wheels.
16:24 Gabe packing so many puns in his daily carry that he didn't leave enough room for extra batteries.
Use the exact same setup with the only difference being the bearings. Make sure the other pair of bearings aren’t broken in. Use an adjustable torque wrench with the bolts tightened down to the exact same.
Please make a testers series!! Would be literally flames!!🔥🔥
Braille Nye the science guy… or Braille R&D (research and development)
I’d tune in for that scientific content for sure!
Friction must be a key component in keeping momentum within the track. Maybe the less friction + weight causes less revolutions in a frictionless medium.
Yes do testers. As for the bearings it's probably like wheels. Small equals better acceleration because it has less revolutions do to but will slow down faster because it does it's spin faster. Big wheels roll longer but take a while to get to top speed, so bearings should be similar.
Its funny to hear Kyro say "science is science." If you get it, you get it.
Why funny haha
@@brailleskateboardingcmon 😂
Love the videos and the evolution through the years. Wish yall the best.
I think they are speaking about the precision of the bearing tolerances. Im not entirely versed but 608 bearings are the sizing i assume overall width and axle diameter. Then in the manufacturing process the maker will have a set tolerance for their design which can be unique like 6, 7, 8 ball changing the "race" size but again uniquely to the design. So the claim of "nano"meter precision meaning if in milimeters its precisely made to spec to the 0.000000001 10^-9 versus another completly unique design by another company to a "micro"meter.
Materials and shielding lubricant system, is it open one side two side, does it have metal shields rubber shields, grease oil. A more precise bearing made of poor materials will have a much shorter life than a lesser with better quality materials. Shielding based on how much you want to do maintenance or if at all ( if you dont want to do maintenance get full shield unremovable cheaper) Also enviromental factors also some feel rubber seals actual perform better and easier to remove.
It's safe to say that the pink board had crooked trucks or wheels on it. In the first test it was clearly visible that the board couldn't roll straight, thus creating more friction when weight is applied to the board.
Wheel-to-ground friction is your main problem/unknown variable here while testing different bearings. Imagine riding a bike downhill with flat tires and how far you would coast once you were at the bottom of the hill on flat ground. Then imagine pumping the tire pressure up to 20 psi and doing it again, then pumping it to 60 psi and doing it again. Hopefully you wouldn’t think “hey wow the ball bearings on this bike got so much better when I pumped up the tire pressure!”. That’s basically what’s happening with your two skateboards using different wheels with different plastic hardness; it’s a variable between the two skateboards that wildly changes the ability of the bearings to keep the wheels spinning and the distance you can coast. It also explains why the deck with the fancy bearings spins so much longer with the deck flipped over without a person standing on the board; you’ve removed the variable of the ground-to-wheel friction and the wheel hardness (although now you’ve introduced the weight and circumference of the wheel as new variables for the speed of the rotation and the amount of inertia the spun wheel has.
If you do decide to make a test channel, PLEASE have someone on your team knowledgeable on the “Scientific Method” and how to implement it when testing, and how to reduce the amount of variables (like using identical wheels when experimenting with different bearings to reduce variables) when testing.
testies! from the people that brought you braille. Testies the show catching everyone by storm!
Donuts to dollars. This is really fun to watch 😂 you guys are awesome
We definitely need Braille Mythbusters
My hypothesis is the fancy bearings how a quicker feel and maybe speedy initially but you have to factor in inertia with more mass it takes longer to slow down. Think of an 18 wheeler or a train takes much longer to slow
from my time when i used to skate i can recall when you bought kew bearings they would be slower until a couple of weeks when thehy got broken into even the sound would change
Hola Mr Horatio Cruz!
You need to drop in on the vert with the Tetrimino board + Caster wheels + big red boots + razor sharp grip tape!
Looking forward to it 😘
just clicked the vid. i can hardly BEAR to wait to find out the results.
ps Braille should def do some skate Mythbusters episodes. lab coats and all!
Btw, could you guys do a video about the old school retro decks you sell on the website? You’ve done videos on old school decks in the past, but never your own version. I’ve asked before, and I’ve since looked to see if you’ve made one yet, and I didn’t find anything.
Thanks!
I am a Braille Army Plus Memeber!! And its awesome!!
Now, im not a physicist but doesn't smaller ball bearings mean dirt and grime will slow them down easier? Maybe they'd be better in a perfect setting where there is no dirt but even dust from the bearings breaking down over time would slow them down more right?
The control board has old broken in bearings, the new ones need to be broken in, also weight on board is different than just spinning the wheel.
If you think about it, the nano bearings have a thicker side wall than the big ball bearings with thinner side wall hence why the nano "feel" faster. Imagine it like a seesaw! A thicker heavier seesaw will "feel" like it's dropping faster than a thinner seesaw. That's how I see it.
As for the mud test, it's a lot more obvious. The nano bearings have less surface area so the bearing was completely coated and could not flick off debris than the bigger ball bearing. That's why the bigger ball were able to clear out the debris easier and keep going.
Can u give some tips/advice for tall people skating? I'm 2 meter tall and sometimes it's such a struggle to learn new tricks and falling hits even harder.
Bend your knees. Im 6 foot 2
I think because the bearings are smaller they have more points of contact when pressure is applied so when you add the weight of a human it creates more friction (or something like that), maybe if they used the same nano tech on normal size bearings they would perform better?
What you guys should really do is keep those boards around for a while and see which board's bearings wear out fastest over time.
You're Braille, dude.....don't miss the opportunity to call it "Blind Testing" 👍
Knowing science and watching people who dont know try to figure somethibg out is so much fun 😂
I believe the bigger bearings cover more distance and the nano bearings are smaller therefore the Nanos feel faster and the normal size bearings feel slower but cover more distance due their size.
Smaller ball bearings will give you higher acceleration, but more drag because the ball bearings have more friction based on surface area. Think of it based on skate wheels vs longboard wheels, you maintain a higher rolls speed with a larger wheel.
Not necessarily so!!! I've tested it for decades! Size doesn't matter! A smaller wheel can be faster sometimes and a bigger wheel can be slower sometimes. So your untested theory is untenable.
@@johnthomas2877 wheel size in fact does matter. Not only do you have to account for revolution rate of each individual wheel based on its circumference but also it’s friction coefficient. Two different size wheels traveling at the same speed will have a different rpm, so it’s also about efficiency. Larger wheels will always have a higher top speed than a smaller one, the trade off is it takes longer to reach its top speed. It’s physics, not an untested theory.
@@Opotamus_0 When it comes to urethane and different durometers you are dealing with an entirely different animal. The physics that you are talking about is out the window trust me I've been skateboarding 55 years of my 65 years and 11 months life. And more recently I've been experimenting with different sizes and durometers. From 55mm up to 100 mm electric skateboard sized front wheels. Just a few days ago I have up on some 80 mm orangatangs after 2 hours and finally switched to 70mm Sector 9s and I was flying!!! So I know what I'm talking about because I been doing this since 2006 several times a week! I got lots of different sized wheels and I been obsessed with the magic of the urethane skateboard wheel. Nobody can tell me elsewise because I know skateboard wheels like you wouldn't believe!
you should do a homage to mythbusters :) lots of us probably loved the show and you bet we love braille. it would be a great series.
When it comes to the science of the universe... Torque brother. Torque is the key to power in mechanics. Power is energy. Energy can be dispersed in many different ways. Torque is, by effect of energy distribution, the key to efficiency.
I'm not even an engineer. I just love torque
we have to have a testers series that would be so awesome😂😂
Up next: official Braille Skateboarding mudcakes
Would love to see an analytical approach to this and for these guys to learn some science in the process. (Particularly Aaron)
Best way to get into that is probably learn vector operations and representation and brush up on high school physics as most skateboard properties should probably be examined under classical mechanics.
i am no expert, but i have taken a few classes on statistics and psychological research. for the all of the speeds test for the bearings, you need to make sure every other variable except for the bearings are controlled as much as possible. so that means you will more likely get more accurate if you use the same wheels, boards, trucks, and make sure each bearing has the exact same amount of dirt and/or lubricant on it.
after that, do not do the speed tests for just one trial, as there are likely other variables that are affecting each individual trail. to account for that as much as possible, test each bearing multiple times for each test and take the averages of all of the results for each bearing tested individually. for example, standing on the skateboard to measure the distance you go should be tested multiple times for each bearing. after an x number of time (the more trials the better) you will get a more accurate picture of the difference between each bearing by comparing the averages between each bearing’s performance.
you can do the same thing for other conditions like how far each skateboard travels without someone standing on it, have the wheels free spin and time how long they take to stop, and so on.
there are a lot more things that go into making consistent tests, but this is just a very general explanation. hope this long comment helps!
Do you guys still do the "you make it we skate it" videos 😅 because I'm in the process of coming up with something you guys have never been sent
Yes of course. Email us - skateit@brailleskateboarding.com
@@brailleskateboarding sweet! Thanks, I'll keep in touch. I'll have to make sure you guys haven't gotten what I'm thinking about making 😅 I don't want to spoil it yet
"NANO bearings.... which I can't describe.."
It's in the name, Kyro. NANO-sized ball bearings
I really love your videos they Arne always so intertaining🥰🔥🔥
Eh, eh, eh, Aaron Kyro the test science guy! 😂 Hilarious about lab coats!
For 150 I’ll take the reds, plus a complete board set up haha
Same
I'd love that tester series
Literally half way through cleaning my bones out and this vid drops, do I keep cleaning or bite the bullet??
If Bones® Reds toss in the trash and either save up for the Swiss/Swiss Ceramics or even better buy SKF® or Bronson Raws or G3's
Just finished the vid and yeah might have to agree with you 😂
I reckon the old worn in bearing have a advantage as they've been allowed to break in and not having similar wheels doesn't make it fair either
I agree! DEFINITELY should break in all new bearings before doing a quality comparison to already seasoned in bearings.
This is crazy and cool video to watch Braille
Metal deforms and the smaller bearing applies more pressure to bear the weight causing more deformity and losing any advantage of roundess of bearing?
I vote yes for testers. Y’all buy all the new skate tech and see if it’s viable for the sport/lifestyle or just a gimmick
Conservation of energy is the answer to why the small bearings stop sooner. Smaller bearings take less energy input to spin and stop because they have less mass. Larger bearings take more energy to spin and more energy to stop. Your mass is the constant in both scenarios thus the friction force applied to the larger bearing will take more time to stop in comparison to the smaller bearings
This is the most deeply scientific bunch of test I've seen in years.
Gotta love the onewheel appearance
For a set of abec 7s to stay a 7, they have to be disassembled and cleaned regularly. Shields make a huge difference on top speed.
Also one impact after a jump and you can pretty much just forget about the rating entirely. At least with steel bearings; full ceramics might resist deforming up to the point where they just crack but I'm not sure if smaller bits could break off and ruin precision that way.
Have you guys ever tested shortys black panther bearings I’ve always been curious how they perform
I bet there will be a big difference once you break the bearings in. I assume the old cheaper bearings are broken in.
Video time 7:36.
Smaller bearings= more bearings = more surface area in total is my best guess. Helps when its "floating" not when you have weight from one side.
The sound of the bearings usually can be used to indicate which ones have ness rolling friction, the noise the bearing produce is wasted energy and the louder a bearing sounds, the more energy it is wasting to roll. Long story short: Quieter bearing should roll easier than loud bearings.
Giveaway test... Complete board set-up would be cool for those who can't afford to buy one or who may be intrigued with the sport and want to learn but dont wanna comit to a purchase..
Is it something to do with inertia and momentum? The larger mass of the larger bearings might hold its inertia better
At the beginning of the test the board with the nano bearings turned right abruptly . I think you are slowing down faster on the nanos because the “ Wonky bushings “ are causing “ drag “ . 👨🔬
How are the bearings rated for impact, because some bearing types are not recommended for impact.
Love you Rick!
it seems simple.. bigger bearings means less roll resistance.. id also consider hardness and size of wheels but also vibration throughout the board that may play a roll in interference.
i like how the cheap bearings got faster after every time but the nano ones lost so much time every time
You guys need to try Quantum Bearings! New company out of GA. FASTEST AND MOST DURABLE Bearings on the market.
Their website has the funniest pictures of molecules to make it look scientific. They’re super sus
When will the Braille Skateboards Street Part drop and will Mogely & Chris be part of it? I need street footy!!!
you have to use the same wheels to have an apples to apples comparison. Ideally the entire setup needs to be the same with the only variable being the bearings.
My layman’s mind thinks bigger bearings equals more speed. I’ve bee riding bones super 6 for years and years, love em.
Now the next question in skate science... are those plastic parking blocks skateable but which ones. Skate science could be a weekly feature in the braille army plus app. Like its myth busters but for like skaters we put ricky in a lab coat and Aaron a berret. Edit that sidewalk looks fire.
You guys need to break the new bearings in and use the same size wheels. The break in period and where’s size will make a big difference
Well there is two problems 1 bearings ride longer when broken in and 2 if you have different size wheels it’ll change a lot.
Thanks for the info. Please do use the same lubricant for the test
You guys should get a Laserscanner Radar gun for speedtests. Dont forget to calibrate it tho.
Did you guys ever test the quantum bearings