7:51 The fenders on my Diamond C equipment trailer do the same thing. Wish I could have ordered weld on fenders instead of the removable fenders but I purchased it from the dealer and that's how they ordered it.
Great video… it took me a while to understand but now realize it is all about the GVWR of Truck + GVWR of Trailer = GCWR, which must be under 26,000 lbs regardless of why you are hauling; personal or commercial. But…. Always a BUT… I have heard that trailer mfgs can and will “under-rate” a trailer for you and you can legally change the trailer’s GVWR so it keeps you legal. Personally, I would never tow more than 14k GCWR off the bumper hitch. If you want to max your truck and trailer GCWR, then go with a gooseneck trailer.
same here 26,000 lbs or over you need a class B or with air brakes a CDL. it allways seemed i would go over with my crew cab 3500 fords. so i keep a few single cab 2500 that would work. stuck with 14,000 lbs trailers. would use a second truck for impliments. main trialers were deck over 20 ft. used them to get lots of materials for jobs.
Class B is for straight line trucks. If a trailer is towed it can not be rated over 10,000 lbs. What you are doing would require a class A without air brakes provided the trailers aren't equipped with air brakes.
The law states 26,000lbs and over requires CDL. But in Illinois they may have special regulations as well. Have you heard about the state of Illinois dropping the cash bail system!?
yeah I simply can't believe that IL law. I almost think its fake, but geez they are getting nuts around here! The 'can't hold in jail' list includes arson and 2nd degree murder!!
I just bought a heavy duty 7x18 ft trailer to haul a 5045 John Deer tractor then found out some say only 5000lbs tung weight for step bumpers I don't know if that's pulling weight or what the tractor weighs 4800 the trailer 2800 so I dont know I am in Kentucky Lexington and farm outside of MtSterling.
State by state its different but as an average you only need a cdl if your making money with said equipment other then that you'll need a class b or a depending on your weights
@@garyrobinson219 your missing the point if what I'm saying. You only need a cdl if ypur driving commercially if its private then you'll need a B or A license for your weights. States have them noncommercially for things like people pulling large heavy rvs or in this case homestead applications like moving your equipment around non attached properties or to take it for repair
yeah I guess your first comment was confusing, to me too. But I hear you on this one. Glad I went ahead and got the class A. Thanks man, honestly I think they should increase those weights a bit with the new trucks and trailer these days, they are made a lot safer. Thanks
All the weight you carry in your truck adds up so you might not be able to haul x amount on trailer. Have you every weighed your truck to see what it weigh
Guess it's different down south we can't be over on axles or GVWR if your truck says 26,000 total truck and trailer then because your license says 80,000 class A doesn't mean you can haul it am wrong. Just bought a 2500hd and my GCWR IS 27,500 TOTAL so if my truck weighs 17,500 all I can pull is 10,000 total correct, I'm trying to understand it
@@nathanbrodeur As far as I knew he was helping people out like friends and flipping properties for himself. That wouldn't constitute a business, so if he had a business I wasn't aware of it. Even if he had a business and owned all the equipment he could still use the equipment for his own personal use if he wasn't using it on a job to make money.
@@plainwornout3964 he has a Business for over 3 or 4 years the jobs he shows us are some personal and some are commercial that the customers allows him to record
If your trailer weight is over 10,000# or your combination is over 26,000# you do need a class A even if you are hauling your equipment for personal use.
I've never seen or read that. My understanding is that as long as you are within your legal weight and legal trailer width and lentgh that you'd be fine.
The 350's use the same engine, and this truck has the super tow package, the highest level above the standard tow package, hence the 2.5" receiver. At least that is how I read the spec sheet on it.
If it's personal farm equipment and not use for commercial use , no * granted they are making trailers and trucks a lot larger and heavier. And newer Gas/ Diesel trucks can handle more weight. I think DOT / DMV needs to change that ruling from 26,001 lbs to $30,001* Exemptions Vehicles for personal use not for hire, military vehicles, Emergency Vehicle, farm vehicles (that meet all exemption requirements), Operated by farmer or employees for the exclusive use of farm, used for the transport of agricultural products, supplies or equipment to and from the farm, not used for hire, and used within 150 miles of the farmer's farm.
I do agree with that, the personal use should be increased like you said. Campers, boats, trailers and trucks have gotten bigger over the years, and safer.
A CDL is required when towing a trailer commercially that is over 10,000# even if you are below the 26,000# combination weight so technically you should have had a CDL for your old trailer
yeah I went back and forth with that one, and even the folks at the DOT offices said in that case you did not need one. That's what happens with too much gov't lol.
@@kapperoutdoors well the problem with all this is that back 20 years ago a pickup wasn’t rated to tow as much as what a new pickup can tow now and it has turned into a mess with all these different licenses
Nice trailer, it's been a great upgrade, very good option to have the 16 ply commercial tires. Great explanation on why the CDL is required.
Thank you, much appreciated. Have a nice weekend!
7:51 The fenders on my Diamond C equipment trailer do the same thing. Wish I could have ordered weld on fenders instead of the removable fenders but I purchased it from the dealer and that's how they ordered it.
yeah I hear you there is always one or 2 changes that we'd make in hindsight.. I have a couple on my new trailer as well. Thanks
Great video… it took me a while to understand but now realize it is all about the GVWR of Truck + GVWR of Trailer = GCWR, which must be under 26,000 lbs regardless of why you are hauling; personal or commercial. But…. Always a BUT… I have heard that trailer mfgs can and will “under-rate” a trailer for you and you can legally change the trailer’s GVWR so it keeps you legal. Personally, I would never tow more than 14k GCWR off the bumper hitch. If you want to max your truck and trailer GCWR, then go with a gooseneck trailer.
Trust me, there was even a lot of confusion with the DOT folks as I was going through the process!! Good points for sure thanks
Very nice trailer Joe!👍🏻
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Looking back it's hard to believe that I got my class A now!
same here 26,000 lbs or over you need a class B or with air brakes a CDL. it allways seemed i would go over with my crew cab 3500 fords. so i keep a few single cab 2500 that would work. stuck with 14,000 lbs trailers. would use a second truck for impliments. main trialers were deck over 20 ft. used them to get lots of materials for jobs.
Class B is for straight line trucks. If a trailer is towed it can not be rated over 10,000 lbs. What you are doing would require a class A without air brakes provided the trailers aren't equipped with air brakes.
@@garyrobinson219 my misstake.
You are coming through my state Mississippi
Great info and like everyone knows check your state in kappers case state lines lol
lol thanks! Its all pretty confusing for sure, but I'm glad I got it done!! Have a good one.
You didn't get more for your old trailer, you experienced something called inflation which devalued the $'s in your pocket...
lol well I can't really disagree with that!
The law states 26,000lbs and over requires CDL. But in Illinois they may have special regulations as well. Have you heard about the state of Illinois dropping the cash bail system!?
yeah I simply can't believe that IL law. I almost think its fake, but geez they are getting nuts around here! The 'can't hold in jail' list includes arson and 2nd degree murder!!
I just bought a heavy duty 7x18 ft trailer to haul a 5045 John Deer tractor then found out some say only 5000lbs tung weight for step bumpers I don't know if that's pulling weight or what the tractor weighs 4800 the trailer 2800 so I dont know I am in Kentucky Lexington and farm outside of MtSterling.
This stuff does get a bit technical for sure. Best of luck thanks
State by state its different but as an average you only need a cdl if your making money with said equipment other then that you'll need a class b or a depending on your weights
CDLs are not state they are Federal. Class B is for straightline trucks.
@@garyrobinson219 your missing the point if what I'm saying. You only need a cdl if ypur driving commercially if its private then you'll need a B or A license for your weights. States have them noncommercially for things like people pulling large heavy rvs or in this case homestead applications like moving your equipment around non attached properties or to take it for repair
yeah I guess your first comment was confusing, to me too. But I hear you on this one. Glad I went ahead and got the class A. Thanks man, honestly I think they should increase those weights a bit with the new trucks and trailer these days, they are made a lot safer. Thanks
The largest pick up truck over here you are only allowed to tow 3.5 tons gross ☹️ nice trailer should be so much easier to load and unload the 🤔💪👍
yes it has been much easier! Thanks happy Saturday!
All the weight you carry in your truck adds up so you might not be able to haul x amount on trailer. Have you every weighed your truck to see what it weigh
I have the factory weight, but it's not really relevant as the CDL requirements use GVWR, even if the truck is empty.
Guess it's different down south we can't be over on axles or GVWR if your truck says 26,000 total truck and trailer then because your license says 80,000 class A doesn't mean you can haul it am wrong. Just bought a 2500hd and my GCWR IS 27,500 TOTAL so if my truck weighs 17,500 all I can pull is 10,000 total correct, I'm trying to understand it
If you are using your equipment for personal use, you don't need a C.D.L.
Joe has a company that he uses his equipment for money
@@nathanbrodeur As far as I knew he was helping people out like friends and flipping properties for himself. That wouldn't constitute a business, so if he had a business I wasn't aware of it.
Even if he had a business and owned all the equipment he could still use the equipment for his own personal use if he wasn't using it on a job to make money.
@@plainwornout3964 he has a Business for over 3 or 4 years the jobs he shows us are some personal and some are commercial that the customers allows him to record
@@nathanbrodeur Okie dokie, I don't watch all those videos so I probably miss some of them.
If your trailer weight is over 10,000# or your combination is over 26,000# you do need a class A even if you are hauling your equipment for personal use.
Your not legally allowed to load anything past the flat surface on your trailer. So you can’t load on top of tool box
I've never seen or read that. My understanding is that as long as you are within your legal weight and legal trailer width and lentgh that you'd be fine.
I wouldnt pull with that 250 ford, now you need a f350
The 350's use the same engine, and this truck has the super tow package, the highest level above the standard tow package, hence the 2.5" receiver. At least that is how I read the spec sheet on it.
Lol, way beyond my knowledge... glad you found out and got the CDL...stay safe, be careful, take it easy and keep dry and cool/warm which ever one
Yes just like you always say..' stay safe, be careful' Well Better safe than sorry now with the CDL! Thank you have a great day
Great job on the video Kapper!
Good video😊
Thanks man have a great day.
If it's personal farm equipment and not use for commercial use , no
* granted they are making trailers and trucks a lot larger and heavier. And newer Gas/ Diesel trucks can handle more weight.
I think DOT / DMV needs to change that ruling from 26,001 lbs to $30,001*
Exemptions
Vehicles for personal use not for hire, military vehicles, Emergency Vehicle, farm vehicles (that meet all exemption requirements), Operated by farmer or employees for the exclusive use of farm, used for the transport of agricultural products, supplies or equipment to and from the farm, not used for hire, and used within 150 miles of the farmer's farm.
I do agree with that, the personal use should be increased like you said. Campers, boats, trailers and trucks have gotten bigger over the years, and safer.
That trailer is a big improvement over what you had, and safer too.
yeah glad I made the upgrade for sure. Have a good one
A CDL is required when towing a trailer commercially that is over 10,000# even if you are below the 26,000# combination weight so technically you should have had a CDL for your old trailer
yeah I went back and forth with that one, and even the folks at the DOT offices said in that case you did not need one. That's what happens with too much gov't lol.
@@kapperoutdoors well the problem with all this is that back 20 years ago a pickup wasn’t rated to tow as much as what a new pickup can tow now and it has turned into a mess with all these different licenses