Some very sound advice, that might just save someone else from suffering the same experiences. Poor QC from primus/Trangia though, especially considering that this is not a cheap option. Thank you for the tips! :)
Thanks for sharing your experiences with this stove. Did it perform less problematic once the first debris, which presumably was left from the manufacturing process, had been removed? Otherwise, if it had to be cleaned that often (before every use), it would be a real nuisance in winter. Fumbling around with all those small metal parts at night in below -10°C temperatures, that doesn't sound promising... And it's in such conditions a liquid fuel stove becomes necessary. Though I own an MSR multifuel stove that functions without too many troubles, I was thinking of taking the Trangia system for a winter excursion in Scandinavia. It is all in all a very sturdy system, and having the same windshield for the white gas/kerosene /etc. stove and a backup Trangia alcohol stove seems convenient. With a sledge the weight and volume of the Trangia 27 or 25 doesn't matter too much, either. But if the multi fuel burner is not reliable enough, I better think it over again... Best wishes from Tyrol/Austria
Thanks for the reply, the system has been running flawless ever since i cleaned it out, one thing ive noticed for a smoother burn, is to use a few,ess pumps less than the user manual says, 12-15 pumps vs 20-25, all over i think if u can fit the volume, you gonna be super happy with it, its a sturdy system and i would imagen its just as reliable as any other multifuel kit out there, ive not tested other kits so its hard for me to compare 😁
For Kerosene or diesel, technically, you do not need another fuel for preheating. That's what the white pad is for. It will soak up the fuel and burn like a candle. However, you must light it with a flame (match, lighter or mini torch) the sparks of a firesteel will not be enough. If that is your lighting method, then yes, you need a more volatile fuel. As for the lack of simmering ability, it is to be expected: First of all, stoves using a roarer plate are usualy not the best at running on low power. As the roarer relies on turbulence to mix the fuel with oxygen, there is a point where the flow is just not strong enough to keep a stable flame. That's why roarer stoves tend to be used mostly to melt snow and boil water. A silent burner cap (SIlentStove or Berniedog) could maybe help? Some roarers (like the Omnifuel and Omnilite), have a simmer valve on the burner. It restricts the flow of vaporised fuel directly below the jet, so it can keep a stable low flame. It works, but it 's not magical either. It is very sensitive (that is, its effect is on a very narrow range of motion) and a simmered stove struggles to stay lit in the wind, but it does help to not instantly char food if you try to properly cook in a sheltered place. The X2 only has the pump-side valve, and it simply does not offer enough control. Moreover, for some reason, the X2 seems surprisingly puny compared to its Primus-branded brothers (1,6kW vs 3 kW). I guess the raw power of an Omnifuel at full tilt would do quite a number on the aluminum windscreen of a series 27, and the litigations would be endless. Throttling the stove from the factory could help keeps the lawyers away, but probably not fantastic for a burner bell designed to run at double the power... sorry for the lengthy "essay", but the X2 is a stove that leaves me quite confused... would love to see it compared side by side to an Omnifuel.
@@flemmingmortensen9645 if you only burn compressed gas, the gb74 is great. Simple, reliable and powerful. For any other fuel, there is no choice but the X2. You can probably McGyver an Omnifuel or Omnilite to fit (trangia sells the mounting cup separtely), but at your own risks...
@@TimofeyCheremisinov Well... If memory serves, the burner Trangia marketed before the Primus-made X2 was an Optimus Nova. An adapter for it was available for sale few years back, but I do not know if it is still availbale. As for the fit, Nova and Polaris seem of a similar design, I am not sure how similar they are. The Polaris may or may not work "out of the box". You might need to modify your lower windshield and/or adapter to be able to fit the burner properly. Remember that when you venture outside of the recommended use and maintenance from the manufacturer, you are on your own and operate at your own risk. If you destroy your Trangia or burner while trying to make it fit, it's your problem. If you melt your windshield mid-hike because your burner was too powerful, tough luck. There are spare parts available, but any damage is on you. Moreover, remember that you are dealing with highly flammable fuels in a pressurized system. Handle it with care, as any leak could end up in a catastrophe. And remember they DO generate Carbon monoxide when operating (that's why they are not to be used indoors). The protective design of the Trangia windshield may restrict air flow around the stove, and this can dramatically increase Carbon monoxide production. This could prove lethal in closed or poorly ventilated spaces.
Just picked me up unfortunately a second one since I don’t know where my first one no longer is. Still have the bag the pump an bottle. Definitely sucks due to the price. There extremely proud of their product
Thanks for sharing! Did you have any issues with the spindle? I found that after stripping mine down it didn’t seem to work so I had to loosen the spindle screw. Did you do that? I’ve had issues with mine since I’ve owned it which is a real shame as the other prunus stove works flawlessly.
Do you have the older model? The spindel on this one is the main nossle wich controlls the fuel spred/spray and you cant adjust anything to it, its just tightend up and secured with a c-clip, pre set from the factory. the fuel regulator sits at the hose/fuel bottle on my kit. Ive used my kit now during the intire winter without any issues
Turn the camera horizontally. Suggestion when capturing video, always orientate the camera horizontally (landscape). Every TV screen, monitor screen, computer screen, movie theater screen, and the like, are orientated horizontally not vertically. In videos where the camera is vertical (portrait orientation), then played back on the aforementioned devices the left one-third, and right one-third of the screen is cut off, causing the video to appear as a stick video, tall and narrow. We humans, maybe all lifeforms, view our surroundings considerably more horizontally than vertically. Holding a cellphone or camera vertically the video produced is similar to looking through a tight vertical keyhole or wearing horse blinders. In addition, when held vertically then to view the entire scene the camera person must pan more left and right which creates much camera movement; not good. Also, because of our way of viewing our world more horizontally, a video captured vertically becomes spatially disorientating.
Im just going to buy a MSR Whisperlite Universal and a adapter for the Trangia and call it a day.
Some very sound advice, that might just save someone else from suffering the same experiences. Poor QC from primus/Trangia though, especially considering that this is not a cheap option. Thank you for the tips! :)
Thanks for sharing your experiences with this stove. Did it perform less problematic once the first debris, which presumably was left from the manufacturing process, had been removed? Otherwise, if it had to be cleaned that often (before every use), it would be a real nuisance in winter. Fumbling around with all those small metal parts at night in below -10°C temperatures, that doesn't sound promising... And it's in such conditions a liquid fuel stove becomes necessary.
Though I own an MSR multifuel stove that functions without too many troubles, I was thinking of taking the Trangia system for a winter excursion in Scandinavia. It is all in all a very sturdy system, and having the same windshield for the white gas/kerosene /etc. stove and a backup Trangia alcohol stove seems convenient. With a sledge the weight and volume of the Trangia 27 or 25 doesn't matter too much, either. But if the multi fuel burner is not reliable enough, I better think it over again...
Best wishes from Tyrol/Austria
Thanks for the reply, the system has been running flawless ever since i cleaned it out, one thing ive noticed for a smoother burn, is to use a few,ess pumps less than the user manual says, 12-15 pumps vs 20-25, all over i think if u can fit the volume, you gonna be super happy with it, its a sturdy system and i would imagen its just as reliable as any other multifuel kit out there, ive not tested other kits so its hard for me to compare 😁
For Kerosene or diesel, technically, you do not need another fuel for preheating. That's what the white pad is for.
It will soak up the fuel and burn like a candle. However, you must light it with a flame (match, lighter or mini torch) the sparks of a firesteel will not be enough. If that is your lighting method, then yes, you need a more volatile fuel.
As for the lack of simmering ability, it is to be expected:
First of all, stoves using a roarer plate are usualy not the best at running on low power. As the roarer relies on turbulence to mix the fuel with oxygen, there is a point where the flow is just not strong enough to keep a stable flame. That's why roarer stoves tend to be used mostly to melt snow and boil water. A silent burner cap (SIlentStove or Berniedog) could maybe help?
Some roarers (like the Omnifuel and Omnilite), have a simmer valve on the burner. It restricts the flow of vaporised fuel directly below the jet, so it can keep a stable low flame. It works, but it 's not magical either. It is very sensitive (that is, its effect is on a very narrow range of motion) and a simmered stove struggles to stay lit in the wind, but it does help to not instantly char food if you try to properly cook in a sheltered place. The X2 only has the pump-side valve, and it simply does not offer enough control.
Moreover, for some reason, the X2 seems surprisingly puny compared to its Primus-branded brothers (1,6kW vs 3 kW). I guess the raw power of an Omnifuel at full tilt would do quite a number on the aluminum windscreen of a series 27, and the litigations would be endless. Throttling the stove from the factory could help keeps the lawyers away, but probably not fantastic for a burner bell designed to run at double the power...
sorry for the lengthy "essay", but the X2 is a stove that leaves me quite confused... would love to see it compared side by side to an Omnifuel.
Wich multifuel burner would you recommend instead of the X2 fitting in a Trangia? I’m not using petroleum or diesel.
@@flemmingmortensen9645 if you only burn compressed gas, the gb74 is great. Simple, reliable and powerful.
For any other fuel, there is no choice but the X2.
You can probably McGyver an Omnifuel or Omnilite to fit (trangia sells the mounting cup separtely), but at your own risks...
Hi, I have Optimus Polaris Optifuel. Do you think it can damage Trangia upper windshield?
@@TimofeyCheremisinov Well... If memory serves, the burner Trangia marketed before the Primus-made X2 was an Optimus Nova.
An adapter for it was available for sale few years back, but I do not know if it is still availbale.
As for the fit, Nova and Polaris seem of a similar design, I am not sure how similar they are. The Polaris may or may not work "out of the box". You might need to modify your lower windshield and/or adapter to be able to fit the burner properly.
Remember that when you venture outside of the recommended use and maintenance from the manufacturer, you are on your own and operate at your own risk.
If you destroy your Trangia or burner while trying to make it fit, it's your problem. If you melt your windshield mid-hike because your burner was too powerful, tough luck.
There are spare parts available, but any damage is on you.
Moreover, remember that you are dealing with highly flammable fuels in a pressurized system. Handle it with care, as any leak could end up in a catastrophe. And remember they DO generate Carbon monoxide when operating (that's why they are not to be used indoors). The protective design of the Trangia windshield may restrict air flow around the stove, and this can dramatically increase Carbon monoxide production. This could prove lethal in closed or poorly ventilated spaces.
@@pierauspitz Thank you answering.
Just picked me up unfortunately a second one since I don’t know where my first one no longer is. Still have the bag the pump an bottle. Definitely sucks due to the price. There extremely proud of their product
Their pricy indeed, i got mine on sale here in Norway, its a very good product for sure, a very stable cooking and heating plattform 👌👌
Thanks for sharing! Did you have any issues with the spindle? I found that after stripping mine down it didn’t seem to work so I had to loosen the spindle screw. Did you do that? I’ve had issues with mine since I’ve owned it which is a real shame as the other prunus stove works flawlessly.
Do you have the older model? The spindel on this one is the main nossle wich controlls the fuel spred/spray and you cant adjust anything to it, its just tightend up and secured with a c-clip, pre set from the factory. the fuel regulator sits at the hose/fuel bottle on my kit. Ive used my kit now during the intire winter without any issues
Dimana kalau saya mau beli
Don’t fire this up in a poorly ventilated tent, the gasses will kill you.
Turn the camera horizontally.
Suggestion when capturing video, always orientate the camera horizontally (landscape). Every TV screen, monitor screen, computer screen, movie theater screen, and the like, are orientated horizontally not vertically. In videos where the camera is vertical (portrait orientation), then played back on the aforementioned devices the left one-third, and right one-third of the screen is cut off, causing the video to appear as a stick video, tall and narrow. We humans, maybe all lifeforms, view our surroundings considerably more horizontally than vertically. Holding a cellphone or camera vertically the video produced is similar to looking through a tight vertical keyhole or wearing horse blinders. In addition, when held vertically then to view the entire scene the camera person must pan more left and right which creates much camera movement; not good. Also, because of our way of viewing our world more horizontally, a video captured vertically becomes spatially disorientating.