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Hey Forrest or whoever manages this Channel. What is the Music title of the Outro Song? (Where "TOP PATRONS" is shown). Its dope Music, i need to listen to this :D Thanks in Advance :))
@@teschchr122 Lol, no i’m saying that children typically ignore others. So i was making a joke that i might be a child, because everytime i hear tuckers voice, i want to ignore him… like a child would. i’m
When tuck was being sued for slander his lawyer successfully argued that no reasonable and or intelligent person would take anything he says as serious or truthful.
@@FatMadt666or having to be the employee checking them out 🤦♂️ At this point I’ve had so many old white men wearing MAGA hats trying to talk up trump, Fox News, and Tucker Carlson while I’m trying to check them out is unreal. It’s like the second someone starts wearing Trump 2024 merch they’ve just got to talk about it to anyone they think is listening, even if you don’t care.
dude ikr, like the things that doctors, for example, would do/think was healthy back then was absolutely psychotic. like germ theory wasnt really accepted until mid-late 19th century 💀. humans know infinitely more now than ever before, as anyone that isnt as braindead as tucker carlson would know
Yeah on the topic of "do yellow socks make you pee more" maybe, I hate Tucker so much, especially his little laugh too, as if I can't just state something directly from religion, laugh the same way and can't make an equally strong argument in seconds.
It's the belief that being not confused about a subject makes someone right. This is of course not how reality works, we simply can't have the knowledge to know everything and the more we learn the more questions are raised. But accepting that fact is difficult if you've been told your whole life that confusion is synonymous with lack of knowledge.
A buffoon making a video about two buffoons making a video so buffoons can comment nonsense about it all. I love youtube. This guy is a clown though he really needs to get over himself.
If he cannot show us pictures of himself from every single day from his birth to today, then how can we know that he is indeed real? Without that we have zero evidence that Tucker is real! None! Actually I think science has gone away from believing Tucker is real
Where is the unbroken chain of evidence that he has always had a brain? If we dissect him and find a brain, its clear that god had just put it in there, as we have 0 proof he had one before
Every time Forrest mentions Plate Tectonics as a counterargument to "evolution's just a theory" I'm like: yeah that makes perfect sense. And then I remember when my catholic school science teacher told my 8th grade class that plate tectonics were not in fact real because "god made the world perfectly, and it doesn't need to change" and then I want to scream...
I take it your catholic school science teacher has never seen a volcano, or a landslide, or coastal erosion. Mount St Helens blowing up must have come as a real surprise.
What's weird is that what she said is technically against Catholic doctrine! Catholics officially believe in plate tectonics and evolution and all science, they just think that god created the laws of science and put forth the course of the universe and all that. (which is honestly a super reasonable answer at least as far as religion goes)
"We'd have a fossil record of it, so it must be fake." "The fossil record is incomplete, so we can't use it, is that what you're saying?" "Yes." "Okay. We don't have a copy of the original writings of the Bible and every version that's been rewritten to show that there've been no changes to prove that this is exactly what the Bible was always meant to say. So we have to assume it's not the correct version of the Bible and can thus ignore it, right?" Gotta love the inconsistency of logic...
Yep, that's how it goes. You're not actually meant to consider that the logic that they use might apply in other places. And that if the logic produces nonsense results 99% of the time it's used, it's probably not actually logic that you should be using in the first place. After all, what is logic if not a step by step process that leads to truth? If most of the time it leads to falsehoods, then....it doesn't lead to truth, and is therefore bad logic.
On the other hand we do have accounts of mistranslations and deliberate changes and one of the early popes going around burning all writings that didn't correspond to his interpretation. The bible isn't a primary source to itself let alone anything else.
@@GaymerJenn Indeed! Very sharp. I love it! It's also kind of obvious, but there's so much bullshit in religions and there are so many of these rebuttals that we simply overlook most of them inevitably because there are simply too many and parroting and droning catch phrases to remember them is more of a conservative/superstitious thing. I mean, we don't have to remember anything, because anyone can just rediscover things that are actually true and correct because they logically follow from the evidence.
@@ritchie6162 I know and that's what's so sad about it, not all Americans have problems pointing out Canada on a world map, think Europe is a country, thinks Australia is next to Germany, thinks the world is 6000 years old and that the global flood is facts aso. But that's the image that is portrayed by media, the internet and the loud minority
It takes a lot of faith, in fact it takes nothing but faith,.......... To believe that you, with all your working organs, and your brain in which your "self" resides just aft of your eyes (which are a miracle if you actually believe that eyes developed all by themselves without knowing anything about light) proves that anyone who puts their faith in evolution obviously has not done any research, or given any thought to what our world actually is. Anyone who knows that they exist must understand that every aspect of our universe is constructed by a master designer. Even the common stone rock that a person will find line on the ground is designed. There is no doubt.
The "(in America)" was not necessary, when has a gringo been even remotely concerned about anyone or anywhere else? Also, get your country a nickname, America is a continent.
@@someoneelse6618Adam didn't coin it, it's from a piece of media he really liked, can't remember exactly what it was but he has a video on tested about it.
5:24 it’s interesting because I remember a clip of Joe sitting down with bill burr on the podcast. He was trying to egg him on to say some controversial thing about the pandemic and giggling while doing it. Weirdly Bill was the one who gave (what I consider to be) the comedic but still firm in its stance version of this. I think he said something along the lines of “Joe im not gonna sit here with no medical degree, talking to you with no medical degree about whether or not what the CDC is telling us is right and wrong. They tell me to wear a mask I’ll wear a f****** mask. They tell me not to I won’t”
Problem with that is, of course, what do you do when the politicians tell you to wear a mask while ignoring the cdc. Which is the equivalent of what happened where I live....
@@Alexander_Kale still listen to the experts? I’ve never listened to politicians for anything. I know they’re supposed to be a source of information, but when it comes to something that important I’d rather get as close to the source of that information as possible. If I can’t I’ll get the information from people or organizations that, I’m as sure as I can be, can be trusted. People who cite their sources. Not a group of people that are commonly known, and on a cultural basis, are known to be liars and grifters.
@@Nubtubtubnub Without experts, you would not have a computer to type this nonsense on. YOu are merely selectively cherry picking the experts you WANT to listen to, based on your own personal bias, and railing against the others, also based on your own personal bias.
The problem with debunking Tucker is that, he doesn't beleive anything he says at all. he's a pure grifter, he knows what he's saying is absolute nonsense but he's saying what he knows idiots want to hear.
100%. Puns may or may not be "low-hanging fruit", and they may make people groan; but they make so many people happy for at least a moment. And even many of those who groan secretly love puns, too. Forrest, that was clever, dorkily funny, and much appreciated. I love that you're you. Carry on.
See, the problem with questions like "how does he know" is that it assumes that Tucker Carlson actually cares about whether or not the things he says are actually true. Tucker Carlson does not give one tenth of a shit whether or not whatever he's saying is true. What matters to him is whether or not it supports his deranged worldview or not.
He's referring to Sam Altman, so yes, he knows that the married Gay man he's dog whistling about does not have children. Tucker's layering more stuff in there too, of course. Childless people are obviously not traditional Christians who prioritize wedlock and women in the kitchen and the nursery. Men who don't have women like that are obviously eunuchs/incels, or groomers/perverts. Women who don't yoke themselves to Men that way are harridans/communists/Jews/pervertmen-in-disguise. He's not a 5d chess player or a whackjob; he's a canny, facile hatemonger high on his own reactionary Fundy griftsauce. Imho.
@@codyhelms2556try "expresses," not " supports" There's no energy wasted on coherent analysis, logical progressions, or internal consistency. It's just assertions that the every phantom of Birch Society bigotry and paranoia is factual, self evident truth.
And what does the parental status of software engineers have to do with whatever work they're doing, or ANYTHING for that matter, except to vilify them in the eyes of the conservatoid forced birther/"family values" crowd
What's dumb is that they say evolution is impossible, therefore magical being (god). What's more insidious, is that Tucker is very well educated and knows better, but he's manipulating his ignorant base so he can profiteer off them. It's disgusting.
Tucker called himself and "entertainer" years ago and said people shouldn't actually listen to him for news. He's always been a grifter. Remember he started at CNN.
The double standard for proof is also just so stupid. You can't "prove" evolution is real unless you have a perfect record showing each step over the course of millions of years. Meanwhile we "know" God exists because someone said so in a book written over 2000 years ago. Absolute buffoonery
@@Saboteur4 He might be a grifter on a lot of political issues, but based on leaked emails at least, he might be a genuine koolaid drinker as far as christianity goes.
"very well educated and knows better" Can people stop pushing that lie? Rich people pay others to take classes for them. I doubt Tucker Carlson's actual educational level is higher than 9-10th grade.
@@JaceDeanLove he is anti vaccineated, he is a wellness and alternate health idiot, he pushes people like graham hancock ANYTHING that is contrary to the mainstream he absolutely adores
@JaceDeanLove ... I dont think you know what open minded means if you're going to say "not really" then explain how he's completely and utterly open minded.
Joe rogan repeatedly says that he is not studied, that there are many people who are smarter than him and that you should not trust anything he says on the show without double checking it. Repeatedly. The JRE is him talking to people about stuff that interests him, not an educational program. Long story short, he is under no obligation whatsoever to share your views on anything, and if anyone just takes what is said on the JRE and runs with it, that is entirely their fault.
I still don’t understand why people would stick with a book written thousands of years ago by hundreds of authors and before a modern understanding of science versus the body of scientists.
Well, Christianity has been booming for around 2000 years. It has been a force behind many many many of the things in society. America became a number 1 world power while the majority of the nation followed God. There is no denying that the majority of, if not all, studies prove, by the metrics of overall happiness and success, practicing Christian's are leaps and bounds above the rest.
I mean there's nothing in the Bible that will contradict science. God created everything. And the line that God created us in His image, well he is everything and everywhere. He can look like anything. That's if you think that created us in his image is purely physical. Something created the universe. Whether it's the Christian God or some other 'creator' doesn't really matter. If there's a creator that made everything, AND evolution exists then evolution is just another creation.
@@Alexander_Kale If a woman turns down or breaks up with a man because she found out he listens to Joe Rogan, she's not telling him he's not allowed to like Joe Rogan. She's telling him she doesn't want to be with the kind of person who listens to Joe Rogan. He's allowed to like whatever he wants... and she's allowed to _dislike_ whatever she wants, including him based on what his likes say about him.
@@snarkbotanya6557 "She's telling him she doesn't want to be with the kind of person who listens to Joe Rogan" yeah, no shit sherlock. That's exactly what that means. Which to repeat my point, is exactly the type of woman a sensible man would stay away from.
But it is obvious which M&M is the hot one. 😅 It makes it easier for him that the green M&M identifies as female. After all only perverts are attracted to M&M's of the opposite gender.
Humanity's overall library of scientific knowledge and new discoveries and tech advances is so much less abundant than back in the 19th century. No internet! Air travel was at it's peak back then, too! That one guy just totally strapped wings on and jumped off the Eiffel Tower to his instant death! If you don't literally physically meet a person or they never know about your book and never see it, you just reached the maximum people one person's awesome innovation or idea can possibly reach into the population. And transport between cities? Who needs a modern sedan when horses 🐎 get you where you need to be 25× slower and you get a nose full of poop the whole way there! OBVIOUSLY things have regressed SIGNIFICANTLY. If only we could know what they had the opportunity to comprehend. Just imagine how many of us wouldn't even have to suffer through life in these backward times, since a good 30% of all of us alive today, weary of witnessing the decline of our progress as a species, would've died already by the Wonderful medical practices such as no vaccines or antibiotics and germs not being understood basically at all. Plus no x-rays or scanners to 100% of broken bones, bullet recovery, and unknown crippling stomach pain got the finest of 'exploratory surgery'. 100s of reasons for whats wrong, same treatment for all! Cut and look. And the real epic tip of how much more we knew then, can't see the bullet? POKE-AND-SEE-IF-YOUR-KNIFE-PINGS-ON-METAL-OR-JUDT-SEVERS-AN-ARTERY!
@@MeganVictoriaKearns At the beginning, I thought you made an error in your first sentence, and I almost didn't read any further and wrote a reply about the error. Then, I did read further, and realized the entire thing was sarcastic.
A person's argument or counterargument is dishonest when they demand perfection to consider your argument, but they expect you to accept their argument as self-evident.
❤I am a nurse 👩⚕️ who grew up hard hard core Religious! It’s been extremely tough on so many levels! Thank you Forrest it’s been extremely extremely HARD becoming a science 🧬 lover surrounded by so many hyper Religious people in so many ways thanks for all you do!
TrishRyan etc: You are PRECISELY the sort of person I think of when I am telling people - in comments - that there is no good, credible, extra-biblical, contemporary evidence for the existence of the "Jesus" character as described in the New Testament. I try always to say: "this must be very difficult for you to come to terms with", because I really CAN understand how it is "extremely tough on so many levels". So I am really impressed that you have managed to move on. I wish you all the very best.
“The theory of adaptation is obviously true, but Darwin’s theory isn’t that’s why it’s still called a theory” 😂😂 no way this guy thinks before he speaks 😂😂
Convo was basically over for me when he said evolution was “just a theory”. Tells me he either doesn’t know the fundamentals of science or he’s knowingly manipulating people. Not the biggest fan of Joe Rogan but at least he offer SOME pushback from Tucker’s creationist ideas.
It's not a contradiction though. In Tucker's mind something being called a "theory" doesn't guarantee it being true, but it doesn't dismiss it either. So, one theory can be true while another is not. I was surprised to hear Forrest make this argument when it's not actually valid.
@@betadecay6503 a scientific theory is a model composed of multiple (sometimes thousands upon thousands) data points and processes that have been tested over and over again and can make accurate predictions of future experimentation. A model can change as new data emerges but in order to dismiss it as untrue a more accurately understood and testable model must be presented, and Tucker has none. He simply dismisses the scientific consensus because it disagrees with his narrow worldview. He doesn’t actually have any well-researched models to present to the contrary. He simply just says “no” and tries to discredit thousands of educated researchers when he does not have any logical reason to.
So... as someone who deals with religious trauma, this series has been the biggest help keeping me grounded. Facts, science, deconstruction, and the laughs all put together has helped me in my darkest hours. Thank you so much. Learning and laughter is truly the best way of healing.
@@13shadowwolf I think it's a little of both, but probably leaning towards the second option. I don't even think that he's necessarily lying. He might honestly think evolution isn't real. But the amount of confidence he said it with, I think, is contrived in order to give more confidence to the Christian side.
It's definitely just money. Same with pretty much every other conservative talking head, they're all about as religious as my dog. And in the same way she does tricks for treats, they bend themselves logically and morally through any hoop for those sweet sweet grift bucks.
The view he advocated for to replace the theory of evolution was litterally creationism. You might think that he doesn't actually believes it, but that is the position he argued for and we have no other evidence to suggest a different position. So Tucker is a person making creationist arguments, who sais who sais that they believe it is the true explaination. These people are normally called creationist.
@@carpediem5232 If he believes in the creation of the universe by the Christian God, then it's strange he doesn't act like the Christian God is real. Pretty sure when he was supposedly here in human form he tried to teach turning the other cheek and treating others as you would have them treat you, but Tucker just can't seem to keep himself from guiding mass amounts of people towards hatred of their fellow man and woman. I mean he could be using his platform to teach understanding and compassion like Jesus supposedly would've, even if misguided, but he very clearly wants to make his audience hateful. And then there's all the greed he's openly displayed by the way he's talked about doing whatever he could to get on Mr. Murdoch's payroll and how many of his values he'd surrender to do so. It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a wealthy man to enter the gates of Heaven, right? I suppose it's true he could still believe in the creation story while also not following the tenants of Christianity, but man, if I full heartedly believed Space Dad made everything and had was going to either throw me in an oven or happy cloud world, forever, I'd personally try to stay on his good side.
Tucker saying that without a perfect transitionary fossil record from Amoeba to Human, we can't believe evolution to be true, is exactly like a Homicide Detective saying "Well I don't have video of the suspect thinking of buying the gun, driving to the gun store, buying the gun, waiting for his victim, shooting the victim, running away into the woods, and then going to bed that night. Therefore, just because I found the murder weapon with the suspects prints on it and there's motive, i'll have to let him go."
This is exactly why I hate how popular Joe Rogan is. Millions of people will listen to guests like Tucker and his ilk and take seriously the positions that Rogan is, frankly, incapable of cogently challenging let alone refuting.
This just shook loose a memory of a church within a few miles of my house that put up on their sign "Science changes, God doesn't" and just there's so many problems with that as a concept that boggles my mind. The fear of progress or change in our understanding that this shows is just insane to me and then their complete ignorance of how many times the Bible and the understanding of their god has changed and evolved over time that I can't even understand that as a stance or idea. Also the same church currently has on their sign "If God had a refrigerator, your picture would be on it" and I just don't even have the ability to comprehend that.
The truth is that Christians change what their god says routinely. They consistently renegotiate the text of the Bible to fit whatever their current dogma changes demand. When slavery was acceptable they carefully took all the verses they could to justify buying, selling, and exploiting the labor of human beings they had lowered to secondary status. Right now, to attack education on how bad racism is and how it negatively impacted Black Americans in the past, and up until now, they have started a new renegotiation that says Biblical slavery was actually just debt bondage and people were treated just fine. They have renegotiated everything Paul said about sexual ethics and tossed it all in the trash except for premarital sex and homosexual behavior. Though some of them have taken verses out of the same book to justify forcing women into a subjugation similar to that of the Greco-Roman cultures. In the same manner, they have done all manner of silliness to attack science. That includes the first verses of Genesis. They have done the same to attack abortion - they try to convince people that abortion was always forbidden completely when in fact, the current abortion argument they use was implemented by the Roman Catholics in the mid-nineteenth Century. The Protestants didn't even adopt the same position until the 1970s. There are actually Southern Baptist statements prior to the change where their Conference leadership stated that the decision on having or not having an abortion was up to the woman making the decision. So, Christians routinely change what their god says to fit the Christian Church's agenda.
"God doesn't change" says the people who've reinvented God thousands of times over the centuries. Like, hey guys, why aren't you worshipping the 100 CE god, or the henistic 1000 BCE god, or the 300 CE god, or even just the 1600 CE god...
Let me second that! Just saw him 1st time this morning & I have subscribed 2 seconds after he broke down the madness of living through COVID with the Zinc-Ivermectin wingnuts! We need brains and eloquence that can speak through the fog! This young man merits a THREE BUTTIGIEG megaphone medal!
I hate when creationists present the scientific position as "everything evolved from an amoeba." No, the first proto-life on Earth from which all Earth life evolved was _not_ a modern amoeba. Amoebae are products of evolution just like humans and dragonflies and pine trees and mushrooms and any other modern organisms.
Exactly why I hated that MatPat made that a common phrase. I had been fighting against that phrase for a while when his channel came up, and that always bothered me.
I think when Tucker said "we've given up on evolution", he didn't mean normal people, he meant evangelical fundamentalist creationists. And possibly a lot of muslims.
he means "we have conjured up enough pseudoscientific counterarguments in our creationist circles and adopted a few phrases that slightly resemble the aesthetic of being scientific therefore we can dismiss all actual scientists as frauds and claim ourselves to be the real ones." the fact that he followed it up with "we actually know way less nowadays" is very telling. what he refers to is some sort of absolute moral truth. society has become less moral therefore scientific progress is not real/is irrelevant. he is a representative of the idea that scientific truths can only ever exist in service of a set of moral truths and the unfalsifiable notions that hold them together. he does not believe science can even dare to challenge his own ideas.
I work with a guy that said with a straight face that they’ve proven fossils aren’t as old as they thought and that man walked with dinosaurs. I said let me guess, you heard it from Ken Ham? He was like. Oh you heard it.
How does Tucker Carlson have any credibility left? And I mean specifically among people who listen to his show. Hasn't he been outted as a liar several times? Even going so far as to say he doesn't even believe the crap he says?
Tucker once admitted that he has no beliefs and that he would say whatever rupert murdoch wanted him to. He then said "i would be honored to be caned by mr. Murdoch"
technically its impossible to disprove the idea that reality was created 3 seconds ago and we were all just made with pre existing memories of our fake pasts
PSA - Everybody stay to the end for a special surprise after the credits! And I'll watch anything that Forrest puts on this channel, but it's tough to sit through that much crap from Tucker.
I fell in love with primate evolution and biological anthropology in my undergrad at CU Boulder. Took every class in primate they offered If I didn’t have some good foundation in sociobiological theory I might be persuaded by some of the claims made by those “dark web” grifters. College is a great thing, folks, let’s make it accessible to everyone.
Or as Trump would have said it "Nobody knew [insert any topic Trump didn't know about, but now speaks confidently about when he gets the slightest sliver of information]"
He forgot to mention that with science you can actually go out, look it up, research it, study it, see it. Where as the other you have just a book that was not only NOT written by the big space wizard, but by some "normal human being". And saying that isn't true is going to have to build up some extremely convincing evidence (good luck with that).
ive been struggling with being confrontational and rude to people with different ideas, including just opinions on media. I saw your videos and loved them, and watched to learn how to be nicer. thank you. you also gave genuine inspiration about education. thank you
Forrest is amazing at that. I highly recommend also checking out Paulogia. I feel like Forrest and Paulogia are definitely two great pillars for a more friendly take on atheism. I still watch folks like Logicked for my fill of snarky but Forrest and Paulogia help balance that out haha
@@shayaltshue1791 Add Sir Sic to that list of snarky, but when you see the same old tired non-arguments and lack of evidence being (t)rolled out time and time again despite comprehensive debunking by people like Forrest and Paulogia you can understand why some people lose patience and resort to a more confrontational style.
@@shayaltshue1791 thank you. I'm difficult, so having people be calm, and polite and try to teach is also amazing. have you watched genetically modified skeptic? try him he's great
Tucker speaks in plural about himself. So with "we have not learned anything", he actually means "I have not learned anything" I am surprised that he has that much self-awareness.
It absolutely shocks me as a biologist and scientist that in 2024 we have people on the world's biggest podcast seriously discussing the denial of well-established scientific theories. It's things like this shitshow that perpetuates mistrust and the denial of science and it is especially terrifying when people do it who have power/influence.
Rogan have had so many loonies on his podcast that I'm never surprised. He has even had Stephen Meyer from the discovery institute on - spewing the same ridiculous creationist bs as always.
It's truly horrible. Rogan should absolutely know better. I defended him for a long time and hoped he cared about doing the best he could do with his powerful platform, but he went off the deep end with the pandemic and never came back for air. Just disgraceful.
@@jrojala You're probably right, I was only watching him occasionally when he had a guest on that was interesting, but when he apologized for mistakes previously I had hoped that he was sincere and would do better. It seems like he just got worse. Going down the Russell Brand path and catering to the lunatics in his audience who are flocking to him.
Why does that shock you? The JRE is one man talking to people about stuff he likes, ranging from weird over to profound all the way around to stupid. It is not an educational program, and the guy he talked to in this case is a well known fruit loop. Of course there would be insane topics.
Tucker admitted flat out during an interview that he lies on air. How or why anyone would even consider taking him seriously continues to boggle my mind.
@paxanimi3896 I'd argue that he does know evolution is real, but of course I can't say for sure. Why he lies about these topics in general? That's the very easy and obvious bit. He is a grifter. It's Money. Not only is it obvious, he has admitted it. The videos and texts aren't hard to find.
I remember someone said to me once during one of those discussions you have in university about random stuff, “I’ve never seen any research on evolution so how can people believe it” I studied art… so did they, just because you haven’t read any research doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
As some added context, Joe Rogan used to get a lot of mileage in his comedy and on his show from making fun of creationists. Ten years ago, Rogan would have mercilessly mocked someone like Carlson saying that evolution wasn't true.
Comparing Tucker Carlson to creationists is an insult to creationists. Comparing Tucker Carlson to anything is an insult to whatever you're comparing Tucker Carlson to
I think I get what you are trying to say, but he wasn't compared to creationists. The poition that he took was the creationist position. Saying that Tucker is human or a mammal isn't comparing him to these groups either, it is just what he is.
@carpediem5232 yeah, my comment was pretty much word salad, ngl. The point I was trying to make was that Tucker Carlson is an opportunistic sh*tty person. I doubt he's a true believing YEC; I think he just said this stuff to be contrarian/stoke his part of the culture wars
I work as a cashier at a grocery store and one day an old guy gave me an anti darwinism pamphlet and I literally sat and read it while on my shift, giggling about how literally all of the claims were wrong. These people don't understand what evolution actually is and what science believes at all 😂😂
yeah like learn the stuff before you decide to reject it, not exactly the same, but i grew up christian with many christian friends and enough experience with some semi fundamentalist people, which is why i'm more likely to criticize that religion than others, not saying i don't criticize other religions, but that's just the one i have the most knowledge on
What would you rather be true, Jesus dying on a cross for your sins so that you can have perfect eternal life, or that you cease to exist once you die and this life you have are the only moments you’ll ever have and then you go in the ground and that’s it, which one sounds like a better option?
@@ryanclour8680 I never commented on my beliefs on Jesus or the merits of heaven. Simply that many people have misconceptions about what evolution actually is. It makes arguments people try to make a lot less effective when they're fighting against an opponent that doesn't really exist.
@@lilymanders5178 Thanks for ignoring the question. I know that you realized the only logical choice and you don’t want to say it, and that’s sad. Does it prove the existence of Jesus or God? No. Does it prove you have a heart/intellectual problem ? 100%
Thank you for all that you do correcting these racist, and ignorant creationists. Way too many people are comfortable with listening to talking heads just for sharing the same political sphere.
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How many pounds or calories did Tucker Carlson lost after jumping to conclusion ten times? 🤣🤣
The winged fingers shirt caused me to spread my wings. I probably look like an idiot!
Hey Forrest or whoever manages this Channel. What is the Music title of the Outro Song? (Where "TOP PATRONS" is shown).
Its dope Music, i need to listen to this :D
Thanks in Advance :))
So what he said about the fossil record and evolution was wrong? How?
"As someone who use to be five years old, I can understand why he would think that" killed me too
He might be on to something, every time tucker speaks, i get this sudden urge to ignore everything he’s saying
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@@RSorkinchildren shouldn’t be ignored, just corrected. Might be a convincing argument for corporeal punishment….
@@teschchr122 Lol, no i’m saying that children typically ignore others.
So i was making a joke that i might be a child, because everytime i hear tuckers voice, i want to ignore him… like a child would. i’m
When tuck was being sued for slander his lawyer successfully argued that no reasonable and or intelligent person would take anything he says as serious or truthful.
Half of America is then unreasonable
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@@mussu4859 I wouldn't go so far as to say half, but a good many of them are and I'm usually behind them in the checkout line.
@@mussu4859 About 40%, but yes. Total nazi psychopaths.
@@FatMadt666or having to be the employee checking them out 🤦♂️
At this point I’ve had so many old white men wearing MAGA hats trying to talk up trump, Fox News, and Tucker Carlson while I’m trying to check them out is unreal. It’s like the second someone starts wearing Trump 2024 merch they’ve just got to talk about it to anyone they think is listening, even if you don’t care.
The craziest thing that he says is that "we know less now than we did in the 19th century".. like... what!?
dude ikr, like the things that doctors, for example, would do/think was healthy back then was absolutely psychotic. like germ theory wasnt really accepted until mid-late 19th century 💀. humans know infinitely more now than ever before, as anyone that isnt as braindead as tucker carlson would know
Yeah on the topic of "do yellow socks make you pee more" maybe, I hate Tucker so much, especially his little laugh too, as if I can't just state something directly from religion, laugh the same way and can't make an equally strong argument in seconds.
It's the belief that being not confused about a subject makes someone right. This is of course not how reality works, we simply can't have the knowledge to know everything and the more we learn the more questions are raised. But accepting that fact is difficult if you've been told your whole life that confusion is synonymous with lack of knowledge.
Maybe he's talking specifically about the "we" of his in-group.
Tbf, Rogan and Tucker are trying really hard to make it so
So much of these kind of arguments is "Well it can't explain EVERYTHING so I'll just reject it in its entirety."
God of the gaps one o one.
Or alternatively it explains almost everything but I'm too "thick" to understand so it's wrong. Thick in the UK means completely stupid
It is because, contrary to scientists, apologists can explain everything, so they must be right: Gad did it.
A buffoon making a video about two buffoons making a video so buffoons can comment nonsense about it all. I love youtube. This guy is a clown though he really needs to get over himself.
I have a theory that Tucker Carlson doesn't have a brain. I mean, I've never seen his brain, so how could it exist?
If he cannot show us pictures of himself from every single day from his birth to today, then how can we know that he is indeed real?
Without that we have zero evidence that Tucker is real! None!
Actually I think science has gone away from believing Tucker is real
true true
We have so much evidence that he lacks a brain... Hmm.
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Where is the unbroken chain of evidence that he has always had a brain? If we dissect him and find a brain, its clear that god had just put it in there, as we have 0 proof he had one before
Tucker Carlson? Wrong? That's so crazyyyy
Surprising exactly no one 😂
I for one am shocked. Shocked I say!
Crazy like the comment section under the original vid
Tucker Carlson and falsities... like peanut butter and jelly, cookies and milk
Mr perma scowl and on the edge of puberty squeeler wrong? His followers deserve him.
That primate change pun was top-notch I'm glad you left it in
My grandfather died this year due to Parkinsons (which he had for ~15 yrs, diagnosed) and my family blamed his passing on the COVID vaccine. 🤦
Ooooofff, I'm sorry.
That has been the worst outcome of the pandemic, how many people around us are brain dead.
Every time Forrest mentions Plate Tectonics as a counterargument to "evolution's just a theory" I'm like: yeah that makes perfect sense. And then I remember when my catholic school science teacher told my 8th grade class that plate tectonics were not in fact real because "god made the world perfectly, and it doesn't need to change" and then I want to scream...
I take it your catholic school science teacher has never seen a volcano, or a landslide, or coastal erosion. Mount St Helens blowing up must have come as a real surprise.
@@PeerAdderno they aren’t real “bible” said so
@@PeerAdder Mount St. Helens never erupted! If that happened, it would surely be in the Bible! 🙃
What's weird is that what she said is technically against Catholic doctrine! Catholics officially believe in plate tectonics and evolution and all science, they just think that god created the laws of science and put forth the course of the universe and all that.
(which is honestly a super reasonable answer at least as far as religion goes)
I asked a rabbi why the Bible is so similar to stories that came before it and he said - with a straight face - “time worked differently back then.
"We'd have a fossil record of it, so it must be fake."
"The fossil record is incomplete, so we can't use it, is that what you're saying?"
"Yes."
"Okay. We don't have a copy of the original writings of the Bible and every version that's been rewritten to show that there've been no changes to prove that this is exactly what the Bible was always meant to say. So we have to assume it's not the correct version of the Bible and can thus ignore it, right?"
Gotta love the inconsistency of logic...
Yep, that's how it goes. You're not actually meant to consider that the logic that they use might apply in other places. And that if the logic produces nonsense results 99% of the time it's used, it's probably not actually logic that you should be using in the first place. After all, what is logic if not a step by step process that leads to truth? If most of the time it leads to falsehoods, then....it doesn't lead to truth, and is therefore bad logic.
"B-b-b-but. . . .GOD DID IT!!!"
On the other hand we do have accounts of mistranslations and deliberate changes and one of the early popes going around burning all writings that didn't correspond to his interpretation. The bible isn't a primary source to itself let alone anything else.
Holy shit, that's a brilliant rebuttal ❤️
@@GaymerJenn Indeed! Very sharp. I love it!
It's also kind of obvious, but there's so much bullshit in religions and there are so many of these rebuttals that we simply overlook most of them inevitably because there are simply too many and parroting and droning catch phrases to remember them is more of a conservative/superstitious thing. I mean, we don't have to remember anything, because anyone can just rediscover things that are actually true and correct because they logically follow from the evidence.
Honestly, I feel sorry for Americans because the image of an American we here in Europue get is provided by people like Tucker Carlson and alike
I hate that he represents a lot of American beliefs. I promise we’re not all like him he’s just loud and rich.
@@ritchie6162 I know and that's what's so sad about it, not all Americans have problems pointing out Canada on a world map, think Europe is a country, thinks Australia is next to Germany, thinks the world is 6000 years old and that the global flood is facts aso. But that's the image that is portrayed by media, the internet and the loud minority
UGH Nooo, please know we are NOT all like this! Very unfortunately, most of us are but not the intelligent ones! 😭
Unfortunately, there are far-right groups in every country. In some European countries they have their own party and have their own “Tucker Carlsons”.
@@andreywonttell4016 for sure but they, in general, don't take up as much global space as the ones from the USA
" What concerns me most is the glorification of ignorance ( in America ) "
Carl Sagan
It takes a lot of faith, in fact it takes nothing but faith,.......... To believe that you, with all your working organs, and your brain in which your "self" resides just aft of your eyes (which are a miracle if you actually believe that eyes developed all by themselves without knowing anything about light) proves that anyone who puts their faith in evolution obviously has not done any research, or given any thought to what our world actually is. Anyone who knows that they exist must understand that every aspect of our universe is constructed by a master designer. Even the common stone rock that a person will find line on the ground is designed. There is no doubt.
The "(in America)" was not necessary, when has a gringo been even remotely concerned about anyone or anywhere else?
Also, get your country a nickname, America is a continent.
@@doctorquestian So ironic for this comment to be a response to one regarding ignorance....
@@doctorquestianyou’re right, there is no doubt that this world has not been created.
Tucker Carlson: "I've rejected reality and substituted my own."
Savage
😂
As in, Adam Savage from MythBusters is the one who coined this phrase.
"Alternative facts "
@@someoneelse6618Adam didn't coin it, it's from a piece of media he really liked, can't remember exactly what it was but he has a video on tested about it.
Code Geass has a similar line - "I reject your reality, and substitute my own" it could be that, or they're both cribbing from the same sheet
5:24 it’s interesting because I remember a clip of Joe sitting down with bill burr on the podcast. He was trying to egg him on to say some controversial thing about the pandemic and giggling while doing it. Weirdly Bill was the one who gave (what I consider to be) the comedic but still firm in its stance version of this. I think he said something along the lines of “Joe im not gonna sit here with no medical degree, talking to you with no medical degree about whether or not what the CDC is telling us is right and wrong. They tell me to wear a mask I’ll wear a f****** mask. They tell me not to I won’t”
Joe Rogan is an evil clown.
Problem with that is, of course, what do you do when the politicians tell you to wear a mask while ignoring the cdc. Which is the equivalent of what happened where I live....
@@Alexander_Kale still listen to the experts? I’ve never listened to politicians for anything. I know they’re supposed to be a source of information, but when it comes to something that important I’d rather get as close to the source of that information as possible. If I can’t I’ll get the information from people or organizations that, I’m as sure as I can be, can be trusted. People who cite their sources. Not a group of people that are commonly known, and on a cultural basis, are known to be liars and grifters.
@@Nubtubtubnub Without experts, you would not have a computer to type this nonsense on. YOu are merely selectively cherry picking the experts you WANT to listen to, based on your own personal bias, and railing against the others, also based on your own personal bias.
"And, as someone who used to be 5 years old, I can understand why he might think that." I'm stealing that
I had a basic understanding of evolution at age 5
Me too! That was excellent!
The problem with debunking Tucker is that, he doesn't beleive anything he says at all. he's a pure grifter, he knows what he's saying is absolute nonsense but he's saying what he knows idiots want to hear.
Fox News' game plan. They make millions doing it.
Saying Tucker Carlson is wrong is like saying a dead person is not alive.
Luckily there's a word for that: tautology.
...Now I wanna sing a "tautology" version of "Tradition".
Egg 🥚 sactly
@@TrishRyan-ey8go Really bro?
@@eggheadusaIt makes me laugh. 😂😂😂
That comment. ❤❤❤
Your username. 😂😂😂😂
@@eggheadusa ohhh are u trEGG🥚ered, EggHeadUSA9900?? 😏😂💃
I'm sorry, you're wrong. "now let's hear him deny primate change" is brilliant.
It's nice to hear an original joke for once, too.
100%. Puns may or may not be "low-hanging fruit", and they may make people groan; but they make so many people happy for at least a moment. And even many of those who groan secretly love puns, too. Forrest, that was clever, dorkily funny, and much appreciated. I love that you're you. Carry on.
Childless? WTF does that mean, how the fuck does Tucker know who has children???
And repeats it, like this is the real, pivotal part, too
See, the problem with questions like "how does he know" is that it assumes that Tucker Carlson actually cares about whether or not the things he says are actually true.
Tucker Carlson does not give one tenth of a shit whether or not whatever he's saying is true. What matters to him is whether or not it supports his deranged worldview or not.
He's referring to Sam Altman, so yes, he knows that the married Gay man he's dog whistling about does not have children.
Tucker's layering more stuff in there too, of course. Childless people are obviously not traditional Christians who prioritize wedlock and women in the kitchen and the nursery.
Men who don't have women like that are obviously eunuchs/incels, or groomers/perverts. Women who don't yoke themselves to Men that way are harridans/communists/Jews/pervertmen-in-disguise.
He's not a 5d chess player or a whackjob;
he's a canny, facile hatemonger high on his own reactionary Fundy griftsauce.
Imho.
@@codyhelms2556try "expresses,"
not " supports"
There's no energy wasted on coherent analysis, logical progressions, or internal consistency. It's just assertions that the every phantom of Birch Society bigotry and paranoia is factual, self evident truth.
And what does the parental status of software engineers have to do with whatever work they're doing, or ANYTHING for that matter, except to vilify them in the eyes of the conservatoid forced birther/"family values" crowd
Tucker Carlson is ironically right about precisely one thing.
Civilization needs defending.
Mostly from people like him though.
What's dumb is that they say evolution is impossible, therefore magical being (god). What's more insidious, is that Tucker is very well educated and knows better, but he's manipulating his ignorant base so he can profiteer off them. It's disgusting.
Tucker called himself and "entertainer" years ago and said people shouldn't actually listen to him for news. He's always been a grifter. Remember he started at CNN.
The double standard for proof is also just so stupid. You can't "prove" evolution is real unless you have a perfect record showing each step over the course of millions of years. Meanwhile we "know" God exists because someone said so in a book written over 2000 years ago. Absolute buffoonery
@@Saboteur4 He might be a grifter on a lot of political issues, but based on leaked emails at least, he might be a genuine koolaid drinker as far as christianity goes.
"very well educated and knows better"
Can people stop pushing that lie? Rich people pay others to take classes for them. I doubt Tucker Carlson's actual educational level is higher than 9-10th grade.
@@FNLNFNLN It wasn't even Koolaid but was a cheap knock off called flavour aid.
Rogan is the poster child for that saying about being so open minded, your brain falls out.
I don’t think so. He has some firmly established views. He just provides near-zero pushback to crazy ideas
@@JaceDeanLove he is anti vaccineated, he is a wellness and alternate health idiot, he pushes people like graham hancock ANYTHING that is contrary to the mainstream he absolutely adores
@JaceDeanLove ...
I dont think you know what open minded means if you're going to say "not really" then explain how he's completely and utterly open minded.
Joe rogan repeatedly says that he is not studied, that there are many people who are smarter than him and that you should not trust anything he says on the show without double checking it. Repeatedly. The JRE is him talking to people about stuff that interests him, not an educational program.
Long story short, he is under no obligation whatsoever to share your views on anything, and if anyone just takes what is said on the JRE and runs with it, that is entirely their fault.
@@Alexander_Kale "just asking questions" always the bullshit fucking response, maybe instead of asking partisan mystics go fucking learn something valid
I still don’t understand why people would stick with a book written thousands of years ago by hundreds of authors and before a modern understanding of science versus the body of scientists.
childhood indoctrination is quite powerful.
yes you do.
and if you don't the other comment spells it out for ya ;)
@@idontwantahandlethough I do understand why people think this way, but the irrationality of it is puzzling.
Well, Christianity has been booming for around 2000 years. It has been a force behind many many many of the things in society. America became a number 1 world power while the majority of the nation followed God. There is no denying that the majority of, if not all, studies prove, by the metrics of overall happiness and success, practicing Christian's are leaps and bounds above the rest.
I mean there's nothing in the Bible that will contradict science.
God created everything. And the line that God created us in His image, well he is everything and everywhere. He can look like anything. That's if you think that created us in his image is purely physical.
Something created the universe. Whether it's the Christian God or some other 'creator' doesn't really matter.
If there's a creator that made everything, AND evolution exists then evolution is just another creation.
i remember a survey on young women’s dating preferences in ny showed the number one turn off they saw in a man was listening to joe rogan
Number one seems a bit over the top. Yes, it’d be a red flag but no. 1!?! Nah
Good list of women to avoid like the plague then. Don't let anyone tell you what you are allowed to like.
@@Alexander_Kale If a woman turns down or breaks up with a man because she found out he listens to Joe Rogan, she's not telling him he's not allowed to like Joe Rogan. She's telling him she doesn't want to be with the kind of person who listens to Joe Rogan. He's allowed to like whatever he wants... and she's allowed to _dislike_ whatever she wants, including him based on what his likes say about him.
@@snarkbotanya6557 "She's telling him she doesn't want to be with the kind of person who listens to Joe Rogan" yeah, no shit sherlock. That's exactly what that means.
Which to repeat my point, is exactly the type of woman a sensible man would stay away from.
What? The guy known for rants about sexy M&Ms was wrong? Who would have thought…
But it is obvious which M&M is the hot one. 😅
It makes it easier for him that the green M&M identifies as female. After all only perverts are attracted to M&M's of the opposite gender.
Living breathing dog whistle is the best way to describe Tucker.
Idk about that. More like undead.
Great epistemology. Are you a dog, perchance?
@@authenticallysuperficial9874 I'm partial to doggy-style but I prefer reverse-cowgirl so I may be part dog but I'm definitely more backwards horse.
@@exhumus💀
I liked "a magician whose only trick it is to turn Monday night news stories into right wing dogwhistles“
Well, dang. Tucker Carlson says we've given up. I guess we have to give up now.
Humanity's overall library of scientific knowledge and new discoveries and tech advances is so much less abundant than back in the 19th century. No internet! Air travel was at it's peak back then, too! That one guy just totally strapped wings on and jumped off the Eiffel Tower to his instant death! If you don't literally physically meet a person or they never know about your book and never see it, you just reached the maximum people one person's awesome innovation or idea can possibly reach into the population. And transport between cities? Who needs a modern sedan when horses 🐎 get you where you need to be 25× slower and you get a nose full of poop the whole way there!
OBVIOUSLY things have regressed SIGNIFICANTLY. If only we could know what they had the opportunity to comprehend. Just imagine how many of us wouldn't even have to suffer through life in these backward times, since a good 30% of all of us alive today, weary of witnessing the decline of our progress as a species, would've died already by the Wonderful medical practices such as no vaccines or antibiotics and germs not being understood basically at all. Plus no x-rays or scanners to 100% of broken bones, bullet recovery, and unknown crippling stomach pain got the finest of 'exploratory surgery'. 100s of reasons for whats wrong, same treatment for all! Cut and look. And the real epic tip of how much more we knew then, can't see the bullet? POKE-AND-SEE-IF-YOUR-KNIFE-PINGS-ON-METAL-OR-JUDT-SEVERS-AN-ARTERY!
@@MeganVictoriaKearns At the beginning, I thought you made an error in your first sentence, and I almost didn't read any further and wrote a reply about the error.
Then, I did read further, and realized the entire thing was sarcastic.
This guy said that the metric system is tyrannical, so he's clearly a person to be taken seriously.
A person's argument or counterargument is dishonest when they demand perfection to consider your argument, but they expect you to accept their argument as self-evident.
❤I am a nurse 👩⚕️ who grew up hard hard core Religious! It’s been extremely tough on so many levels! Thank you Forrest it’s been extremely extremely HARD becoming a science 🧬 lover surrounded by so many hyper Religious people in so many ways thanks for all you do!
TrishRyan etc: You are PRECISELY the sort of person I think of when I am telling people - in comments - that there is no good, credible, extra-biblical, contemporary evidence for the existence of the "Jesus" character as described in the New Testament. I try always to say: "this must be very difficult for you to come to terms with", because I really CAN understand how it is "extremely tough on so many levels".
So I am really impressed that you have managed to move on. I wish you all the very best.
“The theory of adaptation is obviously true, but Darwin’s theory isn’t that’s why it’s still called a theory” 😂😂 no way this guy thinks before he speaks 😂😂
lol, looking for this comment.
I could feel myself getting dumber
Convo was basically over for me when he said evolution was “just a theory”. Tells me he either doesn’t know the fundamentals of science or he’s knowingly manipulating people.
Not the biggest fan of Joe Rogan but at least he offer SOME pushback from Tucker’s creationist ideas.
"It's true, but it's called a theory so we don't have to care about it"
It's not a contradiction though. In Tucker's mind something being called a "theory" doesn't guarantee it being true, but it doesn't dismiss it either. So, one theory can be true while another is not.
I was surprised to hear Forrest make this argument when it's not actually valid.
@@betadecay6503 a scientific theory is a model composed of multiple (sometimes thousands upon thousands) data points and processes that have been tested over and over again and can make accurate predictions of future experimentation. A model can change as new data emerges but in order to dismiss it as untrue a more accurately understood and testable model must be presented, and Tucker has none. He simply dismisses the scientific consensus because it disagrees with his narrow worldview. He doesn’t actually have any well-researched models to present to the contrary. He simply just says “no” and tries to discredit thousands of educated researchers when he does not have any logical reason to.
So... as someone who deals with religious trauma, this series has been the biggest help keeping me grounded. Facts, science, deconstruction, and the laughs all put together has helped me in my darkest hours. Thank you so much. Learning and laughter is truly the best way of healing.
Tucker is highly educated. He knows exactly who his audience is that he is talking to. They eat up what he is saying.
He's either Lying and nobody should listen to him.
Or, he has no idea what he's talking about and nobody should listen to him.
@@13shadowwolf I think it's a little of both, but probably leaning towards the second option. I don't even think that he's necessarily lying. He might honestly think evolution isn't real. But the amount of confidence he said it with, I think, is contrived in order to give more confidence to the Christian side.
Private school and then a college isn't what i would call high education, but that's just me
Exactly. He isn't stupid. He is lying on purpose. It's much worse. Don't give him an out.
@Erin-000 you can have a huge audience by being intelligent and telling the truth. I'm sure he truly believes in that stuff.
I submit that there isn't a single, perfect, unbroken chain of video of Tucker Carlson's entire life, therefore Tucker Carlson doesn't exist.
Tucker did successfully argue in open court that no reasonable person would take him seriously.
Lmao! "As someone who used to be 5 years old I can understand how he might think that" killed me lol
Calling the Tuckster a creationist is a bit of a stretch.
He literally believes in nothing. Well, maybe money and his own image.
"I say whatever mr. Murdoch wants me to. I would be honored to be caned by mr. Murdoch"-tucker carlson in a radio interview
It's definitely just money. Same with pretty much every other conservative talking head, they're all about as religious as my dog. And in the same way she does tricks for treats, they bend themselves logically and morally through any hoop for those sweet sweet grift bucks.
The view he advocated for to replace the theory of evolution was litterally creationism. You might think that he doesn't actually believes it, but that is the position he argued for and we have no other evidence to suggest a different position.
So Tucker is a person making creationist arguments, who sais who sais that they believe it is the true explaination. These people are normally called creationist.
Of course he is a creationist lol
@@carpediem5232 If he believes in the creation of the universe by the Christian God, then it's strange he doesn't act like the Christian God is real. Pretty sure when he was supposedly here in human form he tried to teach turning the other cheek and treating others as you would have them treat you, but Tucker just can't seem to keep himself from guiding mass amounts of people towards hatred of their fellow man and woman. I mean he could be using his platform to teach understanding and compassion like Jesus supposedly would've, even if misguided, but he very clearly wants to make his audience hateful. And then there's all the greed he's openly displayed by the way he's talked about doing whatever he could to get on Mr. Murdoch's payroll and how many of his values he'd surrender to do so. It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a wealthy man to enter the gates of Heaven, right?
I suppose it's true he could still believe in the creation story while also not following the tenants of Christianity, but man, if I full heartedly believed Space Dad made everything and had was going to either throw me in an oven or happy cloud world, forever, I'd personally try to stay on his good side.
Your frustration with the intentionally ignorant is real. Im with it.
As usual, Tucker has diminished my brain cell count with no financial compensation for my pain and suffering.
Tucker saying that without a perfect transitionary fossil record from Amoeba to Human, we can't believe evolution to be true, is exactly like a Homicide Detective saying "Well I don't have video of the suspect thinking of buying the gun, driving to the gun store, buying the gun, waiting for his victim, shooting the victim, running away into the woods, and then going to bed that night. Therefore, just because I found the murder weapon with the suspects prints on it and there's motive, i'll have to let him go."
Indeed. And it is a double-standard. When it comes to the biblical creation of the earth we don't have a seamless chain of events either.
Science sent a man to the moon, religions still can't agree on what fabrics you're not allowed to wear.
real
Religion sends planes into towers
@@j.reneaudette432 That is the official story..... Religions are a tool..
@@j.reneaudette432 * peaceful religion
Well Said!
This is exactly why I hate how popular Joe Rogan is. Millions of people will listen to guests like Tucker and his ilk and take seriously the positions that Rogan is, frankly, incapable of cogently challenging let alone refuting.
What's an ilk?
Including such “luminaries” as Jordan Peterson and Brett Weinstein🙄.
@@metal_pipe9764 It means "kind" or "type".
Its exactly why I will, to this day, boycott Spotify.
Joe is an idiot. I saw the one with Bart Sibrel, he just stood there like bump on a log.
Why did his laugh after saying, "its not even a new idea" make me so uncomfortable? Did it make anyone else uncomfortable?
Yes. It was so bizarre. Like a comic book villain during a flashback of his origin story where he transitions into his current villain form.
@@lizzybearythank god thought i might be crazy 😅
@@lizzybearymight just be questioning myself because Forrest didnt mention it and normally he would I feel.
@@lizzybeary It was more like the laugh from Riddler from Batman Forever, those moments when he is getting insane and dangerous.
A laugh that reveals the twisted dissonance within
Creationists wouldn´t accept evolution even if you could present a continuous string of birth certificates from the first amoeba to Tucker Carlson.
Omg i saw him saying this and literally thought "dude what would Forrest say"
This just shook loose a memory of a church within a few miles of my house that put up on their sign "Science changes, God doesn't" and just there's so many problems with that as a concept that boggles my mind. The fear of progress or change in our understanding that this shows is just insane to me and then their complete ignorance of how many times the Bible and the understanding of their god has changed and evolved over time that I can't even understand that as a stance or idea.
Also the same church currently has on their sign "If God had a refrigerator, your picture would be on it" and I just don't even have the ability to comprehend that.
The truth is that Christians change what their god says routinely. They consistently renegotiate the text of the Bible to fit whatever their current dogma changes demand. When slavery was acceptable they carefully took all the verses they could to justify buying, selling, and exploiting the labor of human beings they had lowered to secondary status. Right now, to attack education on how bad racism is and how it negatively impacted Black Americans in the past, and up until now, they have started a new renegotiation that says Biblical slavery was actually just debt bondage and people were treated just fine. They have renegotiated everything Paul said about sexual ethics and tossed it all in the trash except for premarital sex and homosexual behavior. Though some of them have taken verses out of the same book to justify forcing women into a subjugation similar to that of the Greco-Roman cultures. In the same manner, they have done all manner of silliness to attack science. That includes the first verses of Genesis. They have done the same to attack abortion - they try to convince people that abortion was always forbidden completely when in fact, the current abortion argument they use was implemented by the Roman Catholics in the mid-nineteenth Century. The Protestants didn't even adopt the same position until the 1970s. There are actually Southern Baptist statements prior to the change where their Conference leadership stated that the decision on having or not having an abortion was up to the woman making the decision.
So, Christians routinely change what their god says to fit the Christian Church's agenda.
If God had a persona non grata billboard, my picture would definitely be on it.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutterlove your handle.
yknow that sign makes a much more convincing argument for science than god LMAO
"God doesn't change" says the people who've reinvented God thousands of times over the centuries.
Like, hey guys, why aren't you worshipping the 100 CE god, or the henistic 1000 BCE god, or the 300 CE god, or even just the 1600 CE god...
It’s amazing how you break everything down step by step Forrest! My absolute favourite scientific commentator!
Mine too ❤
Let me second that! Just saw him 1st time this morning & I have subscribed 2 seconds after he broke down the madness of living through COVID with the Zinc-Ivermectin wingnuts! We need brains and eloquence that can speak through the fog! This young man merits a THREE BUTTIGIEG megaphone medal!
I hate when creationists present the scientific position as "everything evolved from an amoeba." No, the first proto-life on Earth from which all Earth life evolved was _not_ a modern amoeba. Amoebae are products of evolution just like humans and dragonflies and pine trees and mushrooms and any other modern organisms.
Tucker "It's just a theory"
MatPat "A GAME THEORY!"
I thought the same. 😆😆😆
Exactly why I hated that MatPat made that a common phrase. I had been fighting against that phrase for a while when his channel came up, and that always bothered me.
@@bfish89ryuhayabusa ?
I was looking for this comment, everytime this sentence comes up, I see and hear him.
or in this case ... " A TUCKER CARLSON THEORY ! "
@@bfish89ryuhayabusa???
I think when Tucker said "we've given up on evolution", he didn't mean normal people, he meant evangelical fundamentalist creationists. And possibly a lot of muslims.
or course they have .. or else it would mean the had to CHANGE, because they could be WRONG !! .. Heavens forbid ..
Just had to throw in Muslims at the end
he means "we have conjured up enough pseudoscientific counterarguments in our creationist circles and adopted a few phrases that slightly resemble the aesthetic of being scientific therefore we can dismiss all actual scientists as frauds and claim ourselves to be the real ones."
the fact that he followed it up with "we actually know way less nowadays" is very telling. what he refers to is some sort of absolute moral truth. society has become less moral therefore scientific progress is not real/is irrelevant. he is a representative of the idea that scientific truths can only ever exist in service of a set of moral truths and the unfalsifiable notions that hold them together. he does not believe science can even dare to challenge his own ideas.
and pretty much every other religion
@@emeraldpenguin6545 imagine thinking Islam is innocent 🤡
I work with a guy that said with a straight face that they’ve proven fossils aren’t as old as they thought and that man walked with dinosaurs. I said let me guess, you heard it from Ken Ham? He was like. Oh you heard it.
How does Tucker Carlson have any credibility left? And I mean specifically among people who listen to his show. Hasn't he been outted as a liar several times? Even going so far as to say he doesn't even believe the crap he says?
primate change is a banger of a term. say it with pride.
Primate change would make a great name for a prog rock band
Tucker once admitted that he has no beliefs and that he would say whatever rupert murdoch wanted him to. He then said "i would be honored to be caned by mr. Murdoch"
He did get “canned” by Murdoch.
Thank you Forrest.
I was in a doomspiral and you pulled me out again.
I am a young earth evolutionist. God created the earth like 10 years ago and everything eveolved like super duper fast.
technically its impossible to disprove the idea that reality was created 3 seconds ago and we were all just made with pre existing memories of our fake pasts
I know you're probably just trolling, but I'll say it anyway - Earth is over 4 billion years old, that has been confirmed.
"that was a masterclass in being wrong"... love it.
Would love to see Forrest debate Carlson, but Carlson obviously woukd never agree to debate anyone who knows what theyre talking sbout
"I don't know. Therefore, I DO know," had me geekin
My fav quote from Forrest right now is "WE KNOW LESS???" I laughed SO hard (17:37)
PSA - Everybody stay to the end for a special surprise after the credits! And I'll watch anything that Forrest puts on this channel, but it's tough to sit through that much crap from Tucker.
😱😱😱 thank you for the tip ❤
Love Austin Archer ♥️♥️♥️
Living dog whistle is the perfect epitaph for Carlson.
I fell in love with primate evolution and biological anthropology in my undergrad at CU Boulder. Took every class in primate they offered If I didn’t have some good foundation in sociobiological theory I might be persuaded by some of the claims made by those “dark web” grifters. College is a great thing, folks, let’s make it accessible to everyone.
I don't care how many debunks of this video come out, I will watch them all. It's great hearing every take from slightly different angles.
Tucker doesn't know anything, therefore nobody knows anything.
Or as Trump would have said it "Nobody knew [insert any topic Trump didn't know about, but now speaks confidently about when he gets the slightest sliver of information]"
You're being hard on yourself Forrest, "Primate Change" is an S-tier pun.
He forgot to mention that with science you can actually go out, look it up, research it, study it, see it. Where as the other you have just a book that was not only NOT written by the big space wizard, but by some "normal human being". And saying that isn't true is going to have to build up some extremely convincing evidence (good luck with that).
take a drink (of water or you'll die) every time a creationist uses the "It's just a theory" line
“Evolution is JUST a theory!”
“Max Verstappen has a MERE three championship titles!”
@@Leith_Crowther "that's just a theory...A GAME THEORY!" is still the best response I've heard to the "argument"
Your hand motions are quite literally illustrative. Your gestures are elevated significantly by the visual medium.
If "im just asking questions" were 2 people, it'd be rogan and tuck
ive been struggling with being confrontational and rude to people with different ideas, including just opinions on media. I saw your videos and loved them, and watched to learn how to be nicer. thank you. you also gave genuine inspiration about education. thank you
Forrest is amazing at that. I highly recommend also checking out Paulogia. I feel like Forrest and Paulogia are definitely two great pillars for a more friendly take on atheism. I still watch folks like Logicked for my fill of snarky but Forrest and Paulogia help balance that out haha
@@shayaltshue1791 Add Sir Sic to that list of snarky, but when you see the same old tired non-arguments and lack of evidence being (t)rolled out time and time again despite comprehensive debunking by people like Forrest and Paulogia you can understand why some people lose patience and resort to a more confrontational style.
@@shayaltshue1791 thank you. I'm difficult, so having people be calm, and polite and try to teach is also amazing. have you watched genetically modified skeptic? try him he's great
@@PeerAdder Nah, they do it because it sells. I really don't like it.
@@shayaltshue1791watch genetically modified skeptic, he's also great
Tucker speaks in plural about himself. So with "we have not learned anything", he actually means "I have not learned anything"
I am surprised that he has that much self-awareness.
Because religion is, as we would say in the UK, total bollocks. Thanks Forrest. All the best from a devout atheist in the UK
“The Joe Rogan Podcast, arguably one of the podcasts of all time” 😂 had me laughing so hard
“And as someone who used to be 5 years old, I can understand why he might think that”. That was awesome! 😂
I wish we had Ninja Turtles, but instead we got people like Tucker and Alex Jones coming from the sewer ooze 😔
It absolutely shocks me as a biologist and scientist that in 2024 we have people on the world's biggest podcast seriously discussing the denial of well-established scientific theories. It's things like this shitshow that perpetuates mistrust and the denial of science and it is especially terrifying when people do it who have power/influence.
Rogan have had so many loonies on his podcast that I'm never surprised. He has even had Stephen Meyer from the discovery institute on - spewing the same ridiculous creationist bs as always.
It's truly horrible. Rogan should absolutely know better. I defended him for a long time and hoped he cared about doing the best he could do with his powerful platform, but he went off the deep end with the pandemic and never came back for air. Just disgraceful.
@@centaur7607?? He was always like this you just started noticing it
@@jrojala You're probably right, I was only watching him occasionally when he had a guest on that was interesting, but when he apologized for mistakes previously I had hoped that he was sincere and would do better. It seems like he just got worse. Going down the Russell Brand path and catering to the lunatics in his audience who are flocking to him.
Why does that shock you? The JRE is one man talking to people about stuff he likes, ranging from weird over to profound all the way around to stupid. It is not an educational program, and the guy he talked to in this case is a well known fruit loop.
Of course there would be insane topics.
Austin's song at the end is such a cherry on top 😅 love that guy
Funny how many of the conspiracies are showed to be false and they still believe the next big conspiracy
“That was a masterclass in being wrong.”😂
Tucker has problems with gravity alright hahahahaha
.....what?
@@maxhadanideahahhahaha
@@TheModdedwarfare3 i legitimately don't understand what he means by that
@@maxhadanidea
He made the „evolution is just a theory“ argument. And just like evolution, gravity too is just a theory; a game theory!
He's a product of privilege allowing him to thrive without needing to think outside his comfortable box.
Nothing like a rich ignorant asshole attacking other people for being greedy and stupid.
I didn't know a person could make Joe Rogan look comparitively sane and reasonable... until I saw clips of this interview... ow my head
What are you talking about? Rogan invited Tucker. It’s Rogan’s show.
@@Leith_Crowther this is true, but most Rogan clips have me facepalm on HIS behalf. The power of Carlson-Cringe was surprisingly overpowering.
Tucker admitted flat out during an interview that he lies on air. How or why anyone would even consider taking him seriously continues to boggle my mind.
Because he says what his followers want to hear, they don't care if he's lying or not.
There's one thing that needs to be said when "I don't know" is the response, its to add "Now how do we find out"
Just Asking Questions is fine, but when you start JAQing off on other people's faces with bullshit you gotta reign that in.
lmfao
Tuker DOES know that he is lying btw. It isn't stupidity. He is intentionally spreading misinformation. It is cruel not stupid.
Well he’s stupid, just not stupid enough to believe what he says
You’re saying he knows, in this case, evolution is real, but he’s lying about it? If so, why ?
@@paxanimi3896becauee he knows and u derstands his audience; the people who keep his income going.
@paxanimi3896 I'd argue that he does know evolution is real, but of course I can't say for sure. Why he lies about these topics in general? That's the very easy and obvious bit. He is a grifter. It's Money. Not only is it obvious, he has admitted it. The videos and texts aren't hard to find.
No one should give Tucker a platform where he can lie and spread false information.
I remember someone said to me once during one of those discussions you have in university about random stuff, “I’ve never seen any research on evolution so how can people believe it”
I studied art… so did they, just because you haven’t read any research doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
To hard for them to walk over to the STEM building on campus and talk to some of the nerds there for 15 minutes?
@ Exh: rather too dangerous - they might see their predetermined conclusions shattered.
@@marknieuweboer8099 Never let the truth get in the way of their religion of hate mongering and bigotry
Primate Change! Awesome Dad joke my man!
As some added context, Joe Rogan used to get a lot of mileage in his comedy and on his show from making fun of creationists. Ten years ago, Rogan would have mercilessly mocked someone like Carlson saying that evolution wasn't true.
This is, by far, my favourite UA-cam series. Forrest, you rock 🤘
Remember this is a guy who thinks escalator grooves, anti theft packaging and Russian bread are cutting edge science 🙄
Could've just left that on the cutting room floor, faded to black and posted a graphic "Tucker hasn't done his own groceries in two decades".
Comparing Tucker Carlson to creationists is an insult to creationists. Comparing Tucker Carlson to anything is an insult to whatever you're comparing Tucker Carlson to
I think I get what you are trying to say, but he wasn't compared to creationists. The poition that he took was the creationist position. Saying that Tucker is human or a mammal isn't comparing him to these groups either, it is just what he is.
@carpediem5232 yeah, my comment was pretty much word salad, ngl. The point I was trying to make was that Tucker Carlson is an opportunistic sh*tty person. I doubt he's a true believing YEC; I think he just said this stuff to be contrarian/stoke his part of the culture wars
Funny how Joe barely pushes back when he's talking to idiots but always makes sure to do so when he's talking to actual experts.
That’s because he is also an idiot who believes this bullshit.
I work as a cashier at a grocery store and one day an old guy gave me an anti darwinism pamphlet and I literally sat and read it while on my shift, giggling about how literally all of the claims were wrong. These people don't understand what evolution actually is and what science believes at all 😂😂
yeah like learn the stuff before you decide to reject it, not exactly the same, but i grew up christian with many christian friends and enough experience with some semi fundamentalist people, which is why i'm more likely to criticize that religion than others, not saying i don't criticize other religions, but that's just the one i have the most knowledge on
What would you rather be true, Jesus dying on a cross for your sins so that you can have perfect eternal life, or that you cease to exist once you die and this life you have are the only moments you’ll ever have and then you go in the ground and that’s it, which one sounds like a better option?
@@ryanclour8680 I never commented on my beliefs on Jesus or the merits of heaven. Simply that many people have misconceptions about what evolution actually is. It makes arguments people try to make a lot less effective when they're fighting against an opponent that doesn't really exist.
@@lilymanders5178 Thanks for ignoring the question. I know that you realized the only logical choice and you don’t want to say it, and that’s sad. Does it prove the existence of Jesus or God? No. Does it prove you have a heart/intellectual problem ? 100%
The most entertaining thing about Tucker Carlson is not *if* he is wrong but *how* wrong he is
it’s as if the dumber they are on the subject matter the more confident they become. weird
Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
That pun at the beginning was glorious, what are you talking about Forrest my man?
Thank you for all that you do correcting these racist, and ignorant creationists.
Way too many people are comfortable with listening to talking heads just for sharing the same political sphere.