Thanks, Forrest, for coming on our show today. It was a real treat! My apologies to you and our viewers for not realizing your audio was coming from your computer and not your microphone. 😬 That one's on me. - Leo
how totally fantastic that Forrest is working with the FFR Foundation! I am excited to hear this video! about to hit play. Thank you guys at FFRF for all you do to fight for our implicit freedoms and the right to choose None of the Above! YOU guys are a part of what makes america great. my best to all of you at FFRF and to Forrest.
If all the books and knowledge in the world was lost, Science would be recreated with essentially no differences. But totally different religions would arise.
It's fantastic to know other people have joy, are upbeat, and very much enjoy sharing with others without having a Christian or Savior religion in their life.
We need like 100 guys like Forest. Well informed,gentle, patient and with a great sense of humor. He is the kind of atheist that truly makes you rethink your ideas
Excellent choice of guests today. "Renegade Scientist" Forrest Valkai is more like the highly qualified mainstream genuine article of Darwinian evolution and science based critical thought. I admired his passion and commitment to secular education ... our world needs more elite intellects like Forrest leading our society toward progress and away from the archaic relic that is religion! 😊
Sorry for the intrusion. Yes I share that video quite a lot, especially in online debates. Didn't know he was doing another one. Hope it also has JS Bachs Brandenburg Concerto playing in the background.
I've been waiting to hear Forrest's opinion on what is happening in Oklahoma schools. I watch him whenever he appears on the other channels you have mentioned but the times I've watched, he hasn't talked about it. I can't believe they are trying to teach Sunday school in public schools but only their flavour of magic not anyone else's.
Hearing Forrest talk always makes me feel so excited and enthusiastic about life and learning! What a great teacher! Kids of all ages must absolutely love when he comes to their schools, his enthusiasm is contagious and rather than dogma and blind obedience, he inspires questions, curiosity and investigation, which is so engaging and FUN for kids!
I would happily listen to Forrest riff on all of these topics all day long if he'd consent to do so. And your final words literally brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for being the genuine article you are!
He does. all the episodes on atheist experience and The Line are amazing with him and Erica combined = insane amounts of great rants and knowledge: just saw this in the suggested list on the right : ua-cam.com/video/7bNlONci0f4/v-deo.html
Forrest is my hero! The enthusiasm he has when he gets onto a topic, but his mind goes to so many different other topics he wants to talk about purely because „isn’t that just so cool!?“ is the exact enthusiasm I hope to show to my kids when they’re learning things in school!
Always great to see and hear you, Forrest. There are places where creationism can be taught: they're called "churches." That's where it needs to stay if it's going to exist at all.
My mother wasnt allowed by her parents to learn evolution. My grandmother [my favorite person in the whole world] went to the school and made a whole deal out of it. I like to think she would have or did regret it xD
👏👏👏👊Great guest FFR. F.V. is a real boon to parents like me, his channel is awesome and he is one of the best hosts on TAE and The Line. I show clips of his vids to my kids all the time. Great conversation to have in these times of rising evangelism/politicization of religion/religion's creep into public education, etc etc.
Its so disgusting to hear how education prior to college is so profit and business based. I hate to be pessimestic but the US is so broken and will continue to deteriorate as long as our current style of leadership continues. I love the work the Forrest is doing!
One of my favorite things is that religion proves evolution in a conceptual way because religions themselves evolve! The vast diversity of "only truth" beliefs doesn't merely parallel biological diversity, but the history of how those all arose and continue to arise is a good analog for mutation and selection. What a great topic! And Forrest is always a delight.
The public school district I work for in Florida calls their morning prayer "moment of reflection." Just this morning I was having an imaginary debate about the disguised nature of this daily ritual. I wondered what would happen if a student decided to sit down after the pledge instead of staying up for this special moment. People can reflect on their own time
What i really find ironic during the Olympics...the talk of the female Algerian boxer. The same mentality that has been screaming "basic biology" and " its biology, stupid" etc are the same ones who dispute evolution.
I went to Catholic school K through 12th and we had to learn science. We had theology class and we were never taught that religion was fact. We were always taught that science was fact. In Louisville, KY
@@henrysurev6908The OP wasn't lucky, catholic schools are known for their good education. And yes that includes things like biology, evolution, and the basic sciences.
Thanks for asking that last question, and thank you Forrest for the thoughtful and inspiring answer. I hate that you went through hard times but I am a little relieved that you did? because some people float though life and say positive and optimistic things because they don’t suffer. It is frustrating to hear platitudes.
The worst part about this is that religion should be taught in school because school needs to teach you about the world and the humans living in it and those humans quite often believe in religions. The problem is that a lot of fundamentalists want their religion presented in a devotional manner, and they'll play bait and switch.
I've heard of FFRF before but never got to grasp that it was a channel. That was a great episode. Love Forrest and you guys seem great, but it takes time to learn whom you're listening to and what they stand for (well.. I was also listening to you guys in the background/not paying attention to the finer details). Thank you! I might watch another episode eventually. Take care gents. OH and may I suggest: make clips of these. There are countless bits that are golden. I'm sure Forrest wouldn't mind either.
Forrest, the reason why your old textbook only says "theory" and "believe" in the evolution chapters is because that was the only chapter interest groups actually bothered to review. Even today, McGraw-Hill and their editor partner companies are still compelled to distribute sections of evolution, politics and religion to specialty review board BETWEEN the peer review process among the authors and the later submission to the state boards they are supplying. Their lawyers redline through the text and then send a report to conservative watchdogs and state legislators/lobbyists to reject the publisher's editions until those changes have been made.
I wanna know why this is the first time YT recommended this channel to me, despite being a member of FFRF and a member of like 30 different atheist channels… YT algorithm oppression strikes again!
I've never seen this channel before but saw Forrest so of course was going to watch😂 I also recognized the name from Forrest's Ask an Atheist video, that they referenced. I stumbled across Forrest's Reacteria series and watched for fun as a Christian that believed God was behind evolution. Loved it! He's so much fun you watch. But I kept putting off watching his ask an atheist video, now I can admit it was because I was afraid to. I had my doubts but I wanted to hold onto my Christianity because of my family and the lifetime of indoctrination that had taught me that God was what gave me worth and purpose and comfort, and I couldn't imagine life without all that. Then I into an argument with my mom over politics and she didn't like my progressive Christian arguments, and suggested God may send me to hell. I had a young toddler at that point and started to think about if God really would send a loving, devoted child to hell for trying their best to help people but getting it wrong??? With that turmoil in mind, I finally watched Forrest's video. He completely tore apart every defense, and every reason I had to even want to hold onto my faith. It was still a long process of reflection and study, but that was the official starting point for my deconstruction❤️ and I've never been mentally healthier.
@@netscrooge It's not at all clear why you would imagine that was so... It's just a matter of counting back to when the first evidence appears... And that's between 5000 and 4000 bce.
@@DJTheTrainmanWalker But you're not making claims about the evidence, such as when it appears. You're making claims about what people thought thousands of years ago. There is no justification to jump from the one to the other. Good grief, we're not even good at understanding each other when we are standing right in front of each other. Making claims about what people thought thousands of years ago is not science, it's largely meaningless, wild speculation.
48:00 (maybe just a hair before that) be careful about what you say... one point you say it is to make world better place but then tell people to find another state. That same argument (go to another state) is mouthed by Christians as well. We are falling back into the cult-like mind. Rather, just find a different teacher. ♡ But our passions get ahold of us and we just start rambling.... Either way, what a great conversation. I really enjoyed this a lot. Thank you to all.
Religions (most) are already available for free to the community where I live. There is no need to include it in our schools as well…unless the churches would like to teach our public science curriculum as a requirement. 🤷♂️
These stats are mind-boggling. I am a teacher union President in another country to the north of you and I've only had one that tried to balance ID and Evolution in a presentation. It wasn't a direct endorsement of ID but, I told them not to do that and they didn't. There are religious fundamentalists in my local and they just aren't teaching Science, both by direction and personal choice. I feel fortunate.
For the teacher about 29 minutes in. Do you teach all the creation myths? How could you be so disrespectful to all those other religions? At 50 minutes in I liked a story they had when covid was in full swing that some orangutans at a zoo were showing signs of depression when there were no visitors. The zookeepers let otters into the stream in the orangutan enclosure and the otters started messing with the orangutans and brought them out of their depression.
Most believers don't need the public schools to meddle in what they can teach perfectly well at home or get at Sunday School. It's all a lot of political grandstanding.
Great video. Im a fan of FFRF and Forrest. But I have to agree with birchdecoy. You really need to update these videos. I like watching FFRF videos but they are so drab. I can get through them but they can be so dry. Im not suggesting bowing to theatrics and emotional manipulation like religion does, but you need to make these videos more pleasant to watch.
It's an interview on Skype. It looks to me like what news programs like PBS Newshour frequently do, and it's clear from the success of many podcasts that there is definitely an audience for long form interviews. What do you suggest they do to spice it up?
If Forrest gave his best effort to deliver a dry and unengaging explanation, he would still be more interesting than most people. The man is fascinated by everything and it comes through clear as day in his body language.
The Genesis/Garden of Eden pushes (1) credulity, (2) accepting rules regardless of whether they make sense. Designed to encourage people to accept the edicts of their dictatorial rulers, all for a promise that if they are good sheep they will be rewarded after they die😮
I believe humanity won't last much longer, certainly society as we know it. The mass migration that will be forced as the climate and earth becomes hostile to everything living there, as species die off and our food dies, and water is horded...... however I think that makes it more important to solve some of the "temporary" problems. Our lives have been pretty hard and unfair, the least we can do is give comfort as mass deaths happen. Worst case scenario people finally get motivated to solve bigger issues and work together. Or maybe that's just hopeful wishing on my part because I'm poor and I know I'll be among the first "sacrificed" and forgotten and I'd like what time we have left not to be exploited by the rich and powerful. They obviously aren't trying to sustain the world.
idk why but this reminded me of that missUSA clip where the contestants were asked "should evolution be taught in schools?" & only like California, Connecticut, New Mexico & Vermont said yes with no caveats, also shout out to Louisianna for being like "idk...yes maybe idk? send help" : ua-cam.com/video/icC64PafDbU/v-deo.html
The only part of religion that should be there is not coming from the "Christian" right. Love thy neighbor, do for the least of us, feed the hungry......
I don't like loud people overall. Passionate is not = loud speaking. But this is just personal preference. It tells you nothing about the guy really. :D
Atheist and big fan of Forrest... I completely disagree about his patience with callers. Every single clip I've seen of it was him having zero patience, cutting the caller mid-sentence dozens of times in a row, adding layers and layers to his point before letting people formulate an answer... just not at all what I call patience.
I was a big fan of his personal channel when talking about evolution & debunking YEC, but grew to kinda hate him after watching him on AxP & The Line. His happy-go-lucky attitude just seems fake now.
I don't think trying to empathize with parents will work, because they think they have the truth, so won't entertain the idea. Regarding teaching other religions in the classroom if they want theirs.
Religion in classroom? Great! Does that mean, we can now finally teach children of those Baptists families the real truth of Lord Krishna and Ganesha and all their miracles? 😂
Public educational standards keep falling, so why not allow the parents to choose? Is state control of everything a good thing? If the objection is the teaching or other indoctrination of students, the issue, then why not address that, rather than placing state bureaucracy in control? Why would anyone assume that the bureaucracy is free of agenda that isn't in the interest of the students?
The parents are free to choose what they learn when they are at home. When it is a public-funded institution, the only way to ensure all people have their religious freedoms is neutrality.
@BFizzi719 Is religious freedom the only issue? My concern is that there are some very controversial and subjective social and political issues being pushed. How is relying on the educational bureaucracy, protection for the kids? Having taught in public schools, I have concerns that they too often run with the latest trends in social experiment.
@@normkeller2405 Well I would say that I understand those concerns and I get it, but you should know that parents do have a voice in matters of education standards. All districts have a local school board. Changes to curriculums are decided locally, for the most part. But how do you propose we give parents more choice on curriculums besides what they already have through the school board of that district?
Genesis 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness This is the passage that my son read today in homeroom math. 2027 is too late to vote Ryan Walters out. Call your OK rep
Thanks, Forrest, for coming on our show today. It was a real treat! My apologies to you and our viewers for not realizing your audio was coming from your computer and not your microphone. 😬 That one's on me. - Leo
how totally fantastic that Forrest is working with the FFR Foundation! I am excited to hear this video! about to hit play.
Thank you guys at FFRF for all you do to fight for our implicit freedoms and the right to choose None of the Above!
YOU guys are a part of what makes america great.
my best to all of you at FFRF and to Forrest.
I LOVE Forrest!! He’s my all time favorite content creator!!!
Even with lousy sound Forrest is worth listening to.
Forrest is a smart person too stubborn to leave the state. We eat, sleep, and breath malicious compliance, and I love him for it.
@@sarahchristine2345yes, I’d like to see forest on the Joe Rogan Experience!
Science works the same all over the world. Religion can already differ in the same household.
Same is true for ideas about love.
@@netscrooge Sadly as long as "there is no hate as christian love" remains a thing, that simply is not true.
@@Julian0101 You're making more of a theological statement than a scientific one.
@@netscrooge Seeing how your god is not needed for love to exist, then is clearly not a theological statement.
If all the books and knowledge in the world was lost, Science would be recreated with essentially no differences. But totally different religions would arise.
We need more like Forrest and Erika. The kindness they show to people is awesome.
It's fantastic to know other people have joy, are upbeat, and very much enjoy sharing with others without having a Christian or Savior religion in their life.
I don’t know this channel but I saw Forrest so I clicked.
Saaame. x)
Same
Me too
Same lmao
Same
I love the malicious compliance approach. Make them regret such laws endlessly.
"A minor note in a major melody." Forest blowing my mind as always.
I am a simple man. I see Forrest I click
We need like 100 guys like Forest. Well informed,gentle, patient and with a great sense of humor. He is the kind of atheist that truly makes you rethink your ideas
100? How about 1 billion for starters?
Best comment ever 💪💪💪👍👍👍😊😊😊
I'm going over to Japan in a few months to teach English as a foreign language and it is my goal to be as enthusiastic and open as Forrest.
You're going to love it there. Schools over there are incredible.
Good luck!!!
Forrest is da bomb. Such a great science communicator
Forrest makes me feel better. 🖖💚🌈
Excellent choice of guests today. "Renegade Scientist" Forrest Valkai is more like the highly qualified mainstream genuine article of Darwinian evolution and science based critical thought. I admired his passion and commitment to secular education ... our world needs more elite intellects like Forrest leading our society toward progress and away from the archaic relic that is religion! 😊
I can't WAIT for Forrests new sex and sensibility video. I share his old one evry time sex and gender comes up in debate. ❤
Sorry for the intrusion. Yes I share that video quite a lot, especially in online debates. Didn't know he was doing another one. Hope it also has JS Bachs Brandenburg Concerto playing in the background.
I've been waiting to hear Forrest's opinion on what is happening in Oklahoma schools. I watch him whenever he appears on the other channels you have mentioned but the times I've watched, he hasn't talked about it. I can't believe they are trying to teach Sunday school in public schools but only their flavour of magic not anyone else's.
Hearing Forrest talk always makes me feel so excited and enthusiastic about life and learning! What a great teacher! Kids of all ages must absolutely love when he comes to their schools, his enthusiasm is contagious and rather than dogma and blind obedience, he inspires questions, curiosity and investigation, which is so engaging and FUN for kids!
I would happily listen to Forrest riff on all of these topics all day long if he'd consent to do so. And your final words literally brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for being the genuine article you are!
He does. all the episodes on atheist experience and The Line are amazing with him and Erica combined = insane amounts of great rants and knowledge: just saw this in the suggested list on the right : ua-cam.com/video/7bNlONci0f4/v-deo.html
So glad to see Forest here
You really can't be a bad person... At least in those ways. Lol
Forrest is amazing! Sincere and honest.
I'd be OK with religion in the classroom with Forrest Valkai teaching.
Forrest is my hero! The enthusiasm he has when he gets onto a topic, but his mind goes to so many different other topics he wants to talk about purely because „isn’t that just so cool!?“ is the exact enthusiasm I hope to show to my kids when they’re learning things in school!
Forrest rocks.
Forrest trees
I adore Forrest. Just beware, he is the harbinger of the 🦷🐰
OMG! Have you seen the thing?! It's a TERROR! Beware the 🦷🐰 indeed!
I love Forrest Valkai. I have seen him on The Atheist Experience.
I wish Forrest was on UA-cam when I was in college. He's so uber nerdy about biology you can't help but also love biology
Always great to see and hear you, Forrest. There are places where creationism can be taught: they're called "churches." That's where it needs to stay if it's going to exist at all.
Forrest is one of the great ones! Could (and have!) listen to him for hours!
Wow, a parental permission slip was needed to teach evolution; insane and weird.
That's what happens when one's god is so weak he needs the power of the state to prop up his membership numbers.
Actually, that was also true in NY State in the mid 80s, iirc. I can try to double check with high school classmates. Doubt my father would remember.
Disgusting
My mother wasnt allowed by her parents to learn evolution. My grandmother [my favorite person in the whole world] went to the school and made a whole deal out of it. I like to think she would have or did regret it xD
@@brandendierker5873 sounds insane , imagine your god being defeated by evolution
👏👏👏👊Great guest FFR.
F.V. is a real boon to parents like me, his channel is awesome and he is one of the best hosts on TAE and The Line. I show clips of his vids to my kids all the time.
Great conversation to have in these times of rising evangelism/politicization of religion/religion's creep into public education, etc etc.
Its so disgusting to hear how education prior to college is so profit and business based. I hate to be pessimestic but the US is so broken and will continue to deteriorate as long as our current style of leadership continues. I love the work the Forrest is doing!
One of my favorite things is that religion proves evolution in a conceptual way because religions themselves evolve! The vast diversity of "only truth" beliefs doesn't merely parallel biological diversity, but the history of how those all arose and continue to arise is a good analog for mutation and selection. What a great topic! And Forrest is always a delight.
Always love Forrest's enthusiasm toward logic and science topics, I hope he continues spreading the knowledge for decades to come.
"Forrest we gotta reel you back in a little bit"
How dare you, sir.
WE NEED CLASSES ON CRITICAL THINKING!! High school would be okay, but it should be in middle school.
Yes!! The Thinking is Power (Melanie Trecek King) accounts and The Mental Immunity Project on Facebook, Insta, YT, etc. advocate for exactly this!!
The public school district I work for in Florida calls their morning prayer "moment of reflection." Just this morning I was having an imaginary debate about the disguised nature of this daily ritual. I wondered what would happen if a student decided to sit down after the pledge instead of staying up for this special moment. People can reflect on their own time
Or just reflect, and not be so goddamned unable to meet in the middle.
@@Unknowntyper
@@Unknowntyperi agree with practice. This is not meeting in the middle. It is still pushing prayer in school.
@@practice4089 *giggle* you can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em think.
@@UnknowntyperAre you open to teaching real science, like evolution, in your church?
Forest, you are the best. luv ya. Oh my glob!
Forrest is true knowledge!
Love Forrest
What i really find ironic during the Olympics...the talk of the female Algerian boxer. The same mentality that has been screaming "basic biology" and " its biology, stupid" etc are the same ones who dispute evolution.
Gutsick Gibbon has a nice video on our parallel domestication of dogs.
Every time I see Forrest in a new place I'm always surprised..... But I don't know why, every place he's ended up has just made sense 😂
Forrest and Erika are my heros. There I said it. Don't tell them, they'll just be humble.
Forrest yay
Forrest is 100% awesome! And the Tales of the Valiant is just amazing!
Great, discussion. I get his passion, I feel the same way.
Love FrFF and F. Valkai is an awesome person and very entertaining. Thank you so much for having him on.❤
I went to Catholic school K through 12th and we had to learn science. We had theology class and we were never taught that religion was fact. We were always taught that science was fact. In Louisville, KY
Then you were really lucky
@@henrysurev6908The OP wasn't lucky, catholic schools are known for their good education. And yes that includes things like biology, evolution, and the basic sciences.
Thanks for asking that last question, and thank you Forrest for the thoughtful and inspiring answer. I hate that you went through hard times but I am a little relieved that you did? because some people float though life and say positive and optimistic things because they don’t suffer. It is frustrating to hear platitudes.
The answer to the question at 49:00 is that dogs are gods.
Malicious compliance is an excellent term. I’m intimately familiar with this behavior.
The worst part about this is that religion should be taught in school because school needs to teach you about the world and the humans living in it and those humans quite often believe in religions. The problem is that a lot of fundamentalists want their religion presented in a devotional manner, and they'll play bait and switch.
For the algorithm 🙂
This was great!!
Forrest is the best
Now I gotta rewatch his stuff.
As a science educator, I could turn it up to an 8. Forrest and Erika turn it up to 11!
Forrest just kinda blew up.
I've heard of FFRF before but never got to grasp that it was a channel. That was a great episode. Love Forrest and you guys seem great, but it takes time to learn whom you're listening to and what they stand for (well.. I was also listening to you guys in the background/not paying attention to the finer details). Thank you! I might watch another episode eventually. Take care gents. OH and may I suggest: make clips of these. There are countless bits that are golden. I'm sure Forrest wouldn't mind either.
Forrest, the reason why your old textbook only says "theory" and "believe" in the evolution chapters is because that was the only chapter interest groups actually bothered to review. Even today, McGraw-Hill and their editor partner companies are still compelled to distribute sections of evolution, politics and religion to specialty review board BETWEEN the peer review process among the authors and the later submission to the state boards they are supplying. Their lawyers redline through the text and then send a report to conservative watchdogs and state legislators/lobbyists to reject the publisher's editions until those changes have been made.
I really hope this makes more kids see how ridiculous is.
Atheism and evolution are two religions that require the greatest faith to believe, and produce the greatest despair and suffering.
I wanna know why this is the first time YT recommended this channel to me, despite being a member of FFRF and a member of like 30 different atheist channels… YT algorithm oppression strikes again!
I've never seen this channel before but saw Forrest so of course was going to watch😂 I also recognized the name from Forrest's Ask an Atheist video, that they referenced. I stumbled across Forrest's Reacteria series and watched for fun as a Christian that believed God was behind evolution. Loved it! He's so much fun you watch. But I kept putting off watching his ask an atheist video, now I can admit it was because I was afraid to. I had my doubts but I wanted to hold onto my Christianity because of my family and the lifetime of indoctrination that had taught me that God was what gave me worth and purpose and comfort, and I couldn't imagine life without all that.
Then I into an argument with my mom over politics and she didn't like my progressive Christian arguments, and suggested God may send me to hell. I had a young toddler at that point and started to think about if God really would send a loving, devoted child to hell for trying their best to help people but getting it wrong???
With that turmoil in mind, I finally watched Forrest's video. He completely tore apart every defense, and every reason I had to even want to hold onto my faith. It was still a long process of reflection and study, but that was the official starting point for my deconstruction❤️ and I've never been mentally healthier.
Responding to the title cold: Well religious education cllass should start with the origin of 'god/s' circa 5000 bce.
Circa 5000 bce is not scientific.
@@netscrooge You lost me. How is "Humans developed god concepts circa 5000bce." a non scientific statement?
@@netscrooge It's not at all clear why you would imagine that was so... It's just a matter of counting back to when the first evidence appears... And that's between 5000 and 4000 bce.
@@DJTheTrainmanWalker But you're not making claims about the evidence, such as when it appears. You're making claims about what people thought thousands of years ago. There is no justification to jump from the one to the other. Good grief, we're not even good at understanding each other when we are standing right in front of each other. Making claims about what people thought thousands of years ago is not science, it's largely meaningless, wild speculation.
Thank you Forrest! First time I heard you today :) The proof is in the pudding! The Pudding is evidence!
48:00 (maybe just a hair before that) be careful about what you say... one point you say it is to make world better place but then tell people to find another state. That same argument (go to another state) is mouthed by Christians as well. We are falling back into the cult-like mind. Rather, just find a different teacher. ♡ But our passions get ahold of us and we just start rambling.... Either way, what a great conversation. I really enjoyed this a lot. Thank you to all.
Religions (most) are already available for free to the community where I live. There is no need to include it in our schools as well…unless the churches would like to teach our public science curriculum as a requirement. 🤷♂️
Forrest is every science tacher's favorite science teacher!!
Forrest Valkai for President!
I think people often forget that they are free to educate themselves, by any means they choose, and pursue proving ANY theory incorrect.
These stats are mind-boggling. I am a teacher union President in another country to the north of you and I've only had one that tried to balance ID and Evolution in a presentation. It wasn't a direct endorsement of ID but, I told them not to do that and they didn't. There are religious fundamentalists in my local and they just aren't teaching Science, both by direction and personal choice. I feel fortunate.
For the teacher about 29 minutes in. Do you teach all the creation myths? How could you be so disrespectful to all those other religions? At 50 minutes in I liked a story they had when covid was in full swing that some orangutans at a zoo were showing signs of depression when there were no visitors. The zookeepers let otters into the stream in the orangutan enclosure and the otters started messing with the orangutans and brought them out of their depression.
Otters like attention, so I assume they appreciated it, too.
❤
Teach religion as history, literature, myth, and sociology. But be honest and factual.
First time I've heard "asshole" and "eat shit" on this channel. Keep up the good work!
49:12 it co-evolution of communal species
That gospelly intro lol!
I know, right!? 😂
Wait, online Dungeons and Dragons campaign?
I need details.
Atheist from Montgomery, Alabama, the buy bull belt 😉
Most believers don't need the public schools to meddle in what they can teach perfectly well at home or get at Sunday School.
It's all a lot of political grandstanding.
They can teach religion in the classroom as soon as they teach evolution and it being true in Sunday school.
Wow, you make this look like a christian talk-show!
It's kinda funny huh? 😂
If there was ever a pollution in religion, it is atheism.
Is "inside the mind of a dog" the Netflix doc they talk about nearish the end?
Oklahoma: You must teach from the Bible.
Forest: :)
Oklahoma: No, not like that!
Great video. Im a fan of FFRF and Forrest.
But I have to agree with birchdecoy. You really need to update these videos. I like watching FFRF videos but they are so drab. I can get through them but they can be so dry. Im not suggesting bowing to theatrics and emotional manipulation like religion does, but you need to make these videos more pleasant to watch.
It's an interview on Skype. It looks to me like what news programs like PBS Newshour frequently do, and it's clear from the success of many podcasts that there is definitely an audience for long form interviews. What do you suggest they do to spice it up?
If Forrest gave his best effort to deliver a dry and unengaging explanation, he would still be more interesting than most people. The man is fascinated by everything and it comes through clear as day in his body language.
The Genesis/Garden of Eden pushes (1) credulity, (2) accepting rules regardless of whether they make sense. Designed to encourage people to accept the edicts of their dictatorial rulers, all for a promise that if they are good sheep they will be rewarded after they die😮
I believe humanity won't last much longer, certainly society as we know it. The mass migration that will be forced as the climate and earth becomes hostile to everything living there, as species die off and our food dies, and water is horded...... however I think that makes it more important to solve some of the "temporary" problems. Our lives have been pretty hard and unfair, the least we can do is give comfort as mass deaths happen. Worst case scenario people finally get motivated to solve bigger issues and work together.
Or maybe that's just hopeful wishing on my part because I'm poor and I know I'll be among the first "sacrificed" and forgotten and I'd like what time we have left not to be exploited by the rich and powerful. They obviously aren't trying to sustain the world.
Forrest should moderate the debate Harris vs Trump.
You want to torture poor Forrest?
@@lunasborednowİ doubt he would be tortured, most likely trump would be humiliated as per usj
Did he come in studio straight from beach?
idk why but this reminded me of that missUSA clip where the contestants were asked "should evolution be taught in schools?" & only like California, Connecticut, New Mexico & Vermont said yes with no caveats, also shout out to Louisianna for being like "idk...yes maybe idk? send help" : ua-cam.com/video/icC64PafDbU/v-deo.html
The only part of religion that should be there is not coming from the "Christian" right. Love thy neighbor, do for the least of us, feed the hungry......
I don't like the guy but I LOVE his reasoning.
Not sure how one goes about disliking him. He's a very likeable dude.
Why?
I don't like loud people overall. Passionate is not = loud speaking. But this is just personal preference. It tells you nothing about the guy really. :D
@@hokiturmix Ah, that actually makes sense.
Atheist and big fan of Forrest... I completely disagree about his patience with callers. Every single clip I've seen of it was him having zero patience, cutting the caller mid-sentence dozens of times in a row, adding layers and layers to his point before letting people formulate an answer... just not at all what I call patience.
I was a big fan of his personal channel when talking about evolution & debunking YEC, but grew to kinda hate him after watching him on AxP & The Line. His happy-go-lucky attitude just seems fake now.
I don't think trying to empathize with parents will work, because they think they have the truth, so won't entertain the idea. Regarding teaching other religions in the classroom if they want theirs.
I am happy in my mortal coil.
Wait not all schools say the "reflect, meditate, pray, or engage in other silent activities"? It's a Christian thing?!?! 😳
Religion in classroom? Great! Does that mean, we can now finally teach children of those Baptists families the real truth of Lord Krishna and Ganesha and all their miracles? 😂
I have a book that has all the answers 42
40% of all people believe in the rapture? Citation Please.
Public educational standards keep falling, so why not allow the parents to choose? Is state control of everything a good thing?
If the objection is the teaching or other indoctrination of students, the issue, then why not address that, rather than placing state bureaucracy in control? Why would anyone assume that the bureaucracy is free of agenda that isn't in the interest of the students?
The parents are free to choose what they learn when they are at home. When it is a public-funded institution, the only way to ensure all people have their religious freedoms is neutrality.
@BFizzi719 Is religious freedom the only issue? My concern is that there are some very controversial and subjective social and political issues being pushed. How is relying on the educational bureaucracy, protection for the kids? Having taught in public schools, I have concerns that they too often run with the latest trends in social experiment.
@@normkeller2405 Well I would say that I understand those concerns and I get it, but you should know that parents do have a voice in matters of education standards. All districts have a local school board. Changes to curriculums are decided locally, for the most part.
But how do you propose we give parents more choice on curriculums besides what they already have through the school board of that district?
Genesis 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness
This is the passage that my son read today in homeroom math.
2027 is too late to vote Ryan Walters out. Call your OK rep