I found the Creationist Neil Breen - Gramps Goes to College | Reacteria
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Forrest Valkai, a biologist who teaches science on the internet, embarks on a quest to endure videos from people who claim everything he studied in college is wrong. Will he be convinced by creationist claims? Or will he remain steadfast in his study of science? Let's find out!
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Forget the guy in the background, Ty's friend there is doing the weakest workout I've ever seen!! He's clearly not counting his reps and there's no weight on that arm-pull!
I saw this one, and I agree with you on all fronts. It's an absolutely terrible film. It wasn't until after I saw this 100 minute long piece of awfulness that I found out this bigot made another film (Hearts Are Trump), which he himself describes as follows: "A visualization of why the politically uneducated and senile elderly should not be allowed to vote. This movie promotes pro-slavery dogma and negates the fact Trump was a populist demagogue praying upon fringe conspiracy theorists and religious zealots."
Essentially, if ever I were to call someone sub-human, this donald parker would fit the bill. Being undemocratic, pro-slavery, .. the trailer for that trump propaganda alone is enough to also realise that he's an anti-vaxxer, anti-mask, "BLM will lead to a civil war", blue lives matter before black lives matter, total PoS. Just wanted to mention this, in case you didn't know. I know your goal of this series is not to give exposure to bad ideas, but combat them, which is something I completely agree with. I personally have a bit of a problem with this character, as he truly represents the worst of the worst. This movie, as you well know, mixed political ideology with religious ideas throughout already, so any exposure he gets invariably includes some of his "liberals bad because liberals" hot-takes.
I'll stop here, I'm sorry, I get a bit carried away. The guy really rubs me the wrong way, more than Alex Jones and the likes do for some reason
Climate Change. It has to be climate change. And I'm already subscribed because you are amazing, good sir.
Please do “god’s not dead 2 next” this was too good😂
"They're not teaching us HOW to think, they're teaching us WHAT to think" that literally describes religion.
Literally word for word what I was thinking.
Learning this was my biggest reason to stop going to church.
Lesson 1 in critical thinking: learn what critical thinking actually means.
There is a christian "education" channel that made a whole series about evolution. It is obviously meant for underage students, teenagers.
On all videos the comment section is deactivated.
Obviously students have no questions, have no opinions.
Obviously what you are told is the perfect truth, so no unclarities have to be explained.
Sounds pretty much like top-down indoctrination to me.
As God is perfect, his word is perfect, so you have to take the Bible verses as they are, they do their job to enlighten you in this and no other form.
But it must be the EXACT word, usually the KJV translation is declared as that, and there is no need to understand anything. No questions need to be asked, you are not to question the ways of God. Reformulation would spoil God's perfect word.
In the meantime my understanding is that it is in principle some supernatural (magic) effect of the biblical text that has to do the work, as language is changing, as people's use of language and vocabulary varies, as people have a wide range of mental capabilities.
When God is to give EVERYone the same chance, his message must go beyond/beneath the words.
That would be practical, because then the issue with the exact wording (up to different languages) would be solved.
I heard that muslims say openly that the Quran only reveals itself to you when you read and hear the arabic original. You must be able to speak out the arabic syllables - no need what the arabic words actually mean.
In the meantime I think religion conditions people not to think for themselves, but to be thought. Where this mode can be switched on and off, and the people not perceiving this mode change is part of the conditioning. They just gobble up what they are told and recite that again.
Bad enough for religion, but even worse is that this trigger to switch to blind believ can apparently be used by other institutions as well. Like Trump or the Republicans, or multi-level marketing cults.
Creationists always try to equate science with religion so that they can try and weasel their way into the classrooms. "If HE gets to teach my child the RELIGION of evolution then I should be able to..." An obvious angle of attack.
I believe that's called "projection".
This is the longest "and then everyone clapped" story ever told.
Reading this comment prior to seen the actual literal scene of that made that bit so much funnier :D
@@Mikri90read it paused 1 second before the scene, I'm gonna enjoy watching it, it's my first time!
This character this guy is playing is just like his "god" narcissistic, arrogant, bad tempered and completely fictional. It's pretty sad how he thinks the worst of people that don't believe in the Bible but instead believe in observable facts.
@@kyledonahue2 IRL he was a system analyst and on the tennis team at uni. Shame he went from actual work to atrocious self-deifying movies.
I can see why his daughter doesn't talk with him anymore. also might be the only true thing in the entire movie.
The daughter line is horrifying when you learn he’s talking about his real life daughter who has disowned him he does it in several of his movies
that's just sad
Not surprised she cut ties with him if hes this loony. I would too if my father was such a hardcore creationist/christian that he made tacky movies about it.
He apparently gathered all the straw available in the midwest, in order to develop his atheist characters.
I think he needed to import some from the east, too
Haha! Exactly.
That's why he made them strawwomen because then they're not a strawman.
@@beskepticaled6223 big brain plays there, "your honor it was in fact a strawwoman"
Poor Gramps, Satan was using That Feminist Lady Professor to give him a woody by exposing her neck. Next thing you know she'll be showing some ankle.
These movies are not made to convince non-believers to believe. They are made to make the believers firm in their beliefs that they are right.
I think you're wrong. They're to kill the non believers from the aneurism we'd obviously suffer from while watching this.....series of unexplainable "plots"
And of course to convince them that atheism and science are just other religions, and atheists are bad people who want to corrupt people 🙄
Ugh it drives me crazy knowing people actually believe this stuff and think this is what college is like.
That's obvious, but even so, they're doing a terrible job at that. I'm a Christian myself (no creationist, of course!), but BS like this makes me think: "I don't want to be in a club that accepts people like this as members!"
@@DoloresLehmann You're not a hardcore Christian then! Lol I joke with ya. Only true Scotsman joke. But what are your reasons for believing? I really don't mean to spark up any massive debate. It's just I use to believe and grew up Methodist, But it was the backwards and immoral aspects of the bible and religion as a whole, throughout history and currently, that made me start thinking.. how could a god support these rules and outlooks, when I myself can come up with better alternatives and answers, that are based in behavioral psychology, sociology, etc etc. If "I" can come up with better values.. then something's not right about this god and religion in general. Yadda yadda, Started poking around for information of every sort that was outside my comfort zone, Longer story shorter, Agnostic atheist. Not saying this isn't a god.. But I do not believe there is one. Due to literally zero evidence of any sort. And then psychology, behavioral psychology on top of that showed me I had far far far more accurate information and morals than any religion. For a long time I just gave myself excuses of different sorts to rest on for the backwardness and incorrect information.
Exactly this. No one with a critical mind would accept this. It's designed to arm people with things to make them feel self-assured and give them infuriatingly ignorant things to say, so that when they use them on anyone with a brain, the person will, of course, be frustrated. The believer, then, not understanding why someone would be so upset with what they say, is pushed even further away from rational thought.
Okay, so the reason for the weirdly prominent mention of his estranged daughter is because this is part of a series of "Gramps" movies starring Donald James Parker. In a later installment, "In Gramps' Shoes", Gramps' daughter has terrible money problems, so she begs Gramps for money and he benevolently agrees to move in with her and her kids to help pay her bills. While he's living with them, his daughter sees the error of her ways and realises that her father was right about everything, and he successfully leads the entire household back to Jesus.
Shockingly, this has *_not_* happened in real life. So DJP basically wrote, filmed, and starred in a fantasy movie of his daughter who hates him coming crawling back to him to apologise and beg for money. DJP truly is just an open book of petty grievances and resentments.
It’s giving “am I the problem? No it’s the kids that are the problem” 😂😂😂
that is one of the most pathetic, wormy things I've ever heard of. what a nasty, sad little man
@@yoyosworld2773 "Am I out of touch? No. It's the children who are wrong"
"You have to cover up your charms" followed by "I'm not a saint" is absolutely bone-chilling
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside ... without cover, and the cats come to eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's? The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab [the headdress worn by some Muslim women], no problem would have occurred."
Sheik Hilali in Australia in 2006.
I dare anyone to explain to me how Gramps' logic is different from what's set forth above.
Paticularly considering its such a obvious self insert.
This guy has 100% failed to "control himself", before.
@@Mystrohanmen who think that way make me feel so unsafe just BEING a woman... Thank you for highlighting this disgusting comment from a mysoginistic, sexist potential rapist and guaranteed abuser of women. He would be of the opinion that we deserve it - I can feel it just reading his words.
Thank you again...
Yes.
Perhaps she’s too old for him!!?
I absolutely HATE that they have the audacity to play the "indoctrinating young minds" card when THATS THE ONLY REASON YOUR RELIGION IS STILL A THING.
Yeah! Like, just ask a kid. You really think Christians and muslims would CHOOSE to be religious if it was a real choice?
For Christians, if you told them you'd still have Christmas, since it's not a Christian holiday, literally NO KID would choose to become a Christian.
The kid - diddler religion 😂
(here in Norway we celebrated "Jul" long before christianity came here. So we'd go back to celebrating jul on the 24th of December, just like we've always done).
It's like are you kidding me? I know what Sunday schools are like. "The bible is true because it's true because it's true" combined with the cosmic gun to your head called hell if you don't adhere the right way. No brainwashing going on there. No sir.
Psychological projection.
Pretty hilarious ngl lol
@@dave2042 more depressing than hilarious. it ruins lives.
Fun fact! There's a medical procedure that has the exact same effect on the mind as this movie. It's called a lobotomy
Ooh! Where is it available?
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 You need to time travel back to the 1950s. Women who dared to have their own opinions got them all the time.
@@God_Is_An_Atheist Yes, it was truly tragic, wasn't it? I remember reading about Frances Farmer, the film star, when I was very young, and feeling so sad for her.
I have a horrible inkling that I was exactly the kind of person for whom it might've been suggested, had I been around then, especially when I was in my twenties.
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 I was curious about it since I had never heard of her but apparently the claims were unfounded - she never actually got that procedure. But it definitely was not a good era for people with mental health issues like her.
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 Yeah, it's a tragic part of history. What really got me was learning about Elizabeth Packard and the history of silencing women through psychiatry; it's hard for me to understand how anybody could've ever thought that it's okay to treat another human being like this. I mean, the fact that people were willing to torture their mothers, sisters, daughters and wives is just insane.
I'm a straight cis man and I'm not trying to claim that I'll ever understand what women go through, but as a husband and stay-at-home dad of two girls, just thinking about this boils my blood.
Also, just fyi: there's a book about Elizabeth Packard you might be interested in, titled "The woman they could not silence" by Kate Moore. Just a recommendation, if you haven't already read it.
Watching how Donald writes his character to outsmart everyone in the film, then watching him totally fumble talking to Forest is hilarious to me.
“I’d like to start this semester with a question.”
She never actually asked a question. She told the people who believe in bullshit to stand up, and then went on a diatribe. At no point did anything she say end with a question mark.
As a college student, I love portrayals of college by people who have never set foot in university.
I've looked him up after first hearing of this movie on God Awful Movies, and apparently this dude got an education degree and was a programmer. So even if it has been 50 years since he has been in college you'd think he'd remember what it was like! It would have been stupid as hell and still wrong if this had been "Gramps Goes to Berkley" but at least you could say there was that perception of schools in "The Godless Satan States" but no, this is a school in the south, an average state University!
@@adrianajameswilliams9031I mean, by that logic writers should have no issue writing teenagers since they were teenagers once. Aside from the changing tides of time, the experiences of an individual can shift their perception of an time of their life
Haha, no kidding. I even attend a somewhat conservative religious university and the first lesson in my GE biology class was evolution.
@@SignificantNumberOfBeavers Creationism isn't ANY religious doctrine. It's just an idiotic talking point.
@@rickkwitkoski1976Young earth creationists believe the bible indicates the earth is 6000 years old, so they are very bothered by billions of years of evolution.
Gramps: How can this organism survive without a brain
Jellyfish: Am I joke to you?
Gramps: Burn the jellyfish demon 😁
the number of living organisms without brains vastly outweighs those with brains
Wait until he learns about plants
@@lovelytigress227 Wait until he here's about Lauren Bobert.
Is Gramps really not self aware how brainless all his writing is?
33:21 Another huge problem is that one of the students said "someone call 911" instead of pointing to someone and saying "YOU call 911". I've never been in a situation like this but I've been told over and over again that it is highly important that you tell a specific person to get help or call 911 because if you just say "someone get help/call 911", everyone is going to wait around for someone else to do it.
Ikr? And just b/c the one student was pre-med, doesn't mean he knows squat about taking care of someone without a pulse.
My favorite part of the whole movie was that his one gym friend has apparently been awkwardly working that right arm of his on the pulley machine the whole time he was at college.
as a biology student, my bio teacher often lashes all non-atheist with the shame stick, and mocks their superstitious idiotic beliefs. everyone laughs at these fools right before our daily blood ritual
Yeah, my teacher does that too! My favourite part is when we eat those delicious babies!
And Satan rejoiced and said, "This is good."
I think I've seen your teacher at atheist church. Because that's a thing we do as atheists. Go to atheist church.
@@LeDoucheBouche and we wear lab coats instead of robes! 😆
If u into the blood stuff u gotta be into the organ stuff too.
This absolute madman actually included a scene of "and then everyone clapped" in the movie he wrote, produced, and starred in. Amazing.
What a guy! The older I get, the better I was....
I honestly love this guy for the audacity to do this king shit
@William Beckert isn't the expression usually using *_madlad_* ? 🤔
Gomedeto shinji kun
As amazing as putin garnering 110% of the votes. Miraculous even!
There was a lady exactly like this in my western civ class in 2009. She was 30 years old and we were pretty sure she only enrolled in classes to argue that the professor was discrediting the Bible. At one point we read a Greek story that influenced JRR Tolkien and the lady stood up and yelled "DON'T YOU DEAR SAY A GOOD CHRISTIAN AUTHOR WAS INFLUENCED BY A PAGAN!" 🤦
Wow, just wow... He's not even trying to hide he's a narcissist, probably he is not even capable to realize he is...
As a musician, I often get asked tough questions that leave me stumped and questioning my faith in the theory of music.
Just yesterday, someone asked me where the notes are in the piano. I pointed to the keys, and he said "No. IN the piano". My jaw dropped. Then he asked me how chords can possibly be played if a 1970s synth is monophonic. Everyone clapped. After that, Kent Hovind told a story about A Guy who was on a plane, and another A Guy from Harvard was unable to explain why chords have roots but not leaves, and how you can have a third AND a fifth in a scale, but the scale isn't on a fish and has no fractions. I sold my guitars and now play a jesus.
You are working in the wrong mode, dude!
That .. Really does just sum up a good chunk of these creationists, don't it?
we have discovered comedy incarnate
Bravo 👏👏👏
"I sold all my guitars and now I play a Jesus."
Dead! 😂😂😂
I’m thinking, more people have watched this version than the actual movie 😂
ha ha !! so true!
The Fluoride China thing was so WILD and out of left field I couldn't have guessed
The comparison to Neil Breen is uncanny, you weren't kidding. All that's missing is laptop abuse and a few cans of tuna.
I am very disturbed by an old man living in a dorm with 18 year olds 😂
Yeah, you'd assume that an older person going back to college will live off campus xD
Yes this was werid especially since he said he was just taking a few classes not perusing a degree. He wouldn’t live a dorm
@@coalhouse1981Yes, but as we could see, the plot changes rapidly and nonsensically every 5 minutes.
Dude went from just going to take a couple classes to wanting a *masters* in biology.
A man that deluded is sure to make some weird ass decisions.
@@luigi580 truth be told i lived in a dorm, no roomate when i was an older student in my 30s and it was werid there was a girl my age there too but yeah its not normal
At my school there were some older students, including a couple who lived in the dorms despite being in their late 20’s to mid 30’s. They moved out to their own places after the first year. Even a friend who had spent just two years working after high school before coming to college had some culture shocks dealing with the rest of us. Kids aged 18-22 are in a radically different place from people just a few years older-they don’t live or act like older people, and they don’t want to.
I can see college kids being welcoming to someone who acts like a fun grandma or grandpa and doesn’t try to lecture them. Someone who thinks they’re there to teach the kids about religion? Hell no. Heeeeeeeeell no.
The sexism cutaways and lesson plan ritual had me in stitches, 10/10.
I wonder if these people see that clip when they are told students do dissections in a biology class.
Indeed The absolutely ultimate “…And everyone clapped.”
I almost felt bad for Gramps.
His video was like someone's dream of being popular who never was.
This is... sad. Just like a horribly bullied kid who keeps daydreaming about being strong and cool.
“There are two women at this party, and you’re clearly drinking apple juice” is the funniest line in this video for some reason.
It could have been fermented by Satan into HARD CIDER (or just left in the fridge too long).
@@jayfrank1913no satan just turned the cider into juice gotta make sure the Satanists don't die of kidney failure some how.
It's the editing and completely serious tone Forrest uses in that moment.
@@jayfrank1913 Nah jesus turned it into wine
(Sorry 10 months late, but I could't miss the opportunity)
Forrest mixing creationism critique with film critique is something I did not know I needed until now
CinemaSins for Jesus movies
@@reggieb184 That's an insult to decent film reviewers.
The chess board is set up backwards and (what should be) knight to g3 is a horrible second move for white. Some Grandmaster.
How do we get him on "How did this get made"?
If you want more stuff like this, including more of Gramps' movies, might I suggest the podcast God Awful Movies? They have some uploads to UA-cam you can play in the background, there are live shows they performed that got recorded and uploaded, and they've done this for years, pretty reliably every week.
Ok I'm now officially addicted to these videos. You are now the cause of my addiction. I hope you are happy with yourself. Addiction is a long a painful road and you are the cause of that😂
Don't feel alone my friend, I too am addicted to these videos.
Coming back 9 months later to rewatch because this video is a timeless gem
Omfg that _'thought provoking question'_ was utterly ridiculous. Dude really asked what size or colour natural selection is like he did something.
Show me a picture of your Natural Selection! Ha! Checkmate evolutionists! - and Grandpa would know a checkmate when he see one, he is a Chess Master in his spare time after all.
What size or color is your god?
"What size or coulour is his thought process? It doesn't have any? Then it must not exist." Same logic, same stupid result. Though a bit more accurate...
Oh yeah? What color is your age?
@@Mr_Vosakisen blue
As a retired high school biology teacher, I approve of how lesson plans are made.
If only! 😅
Student: Chalk? ...but teacher, we don't even use chalkboards anymore.
Teacher: No Billy, that's for drawing pentacles on the floor.
XD my wife is currently a teacher.
In order to jump through all the hoops and match all the requirements, while ALSO trying to actually teach the material with no time, and no pay...
Can confirm. That's basically what it looks like from the outside. Some insane work, with seemingly no rhyme or reason to it, to meet arbitrary standards that mortal minds were never meant to understand.
Dartboard?
@@berryscott8306 that's a word?! Thank you for teaching me it, and to quote Forrest, "I didn't know that... How interesting!" :-)
These people always assume that scientists are there to disabuse people of weird beliefs, whereas they couldn't care less. What they are continuously forced to waste their time doing is arguing against them substituting their weird beliefs for fact.
"Snarf and the Ex Boyfriend" is the name of my acoustic industrial funk band.
"she had a vision of food that isn't mayonnaise and that freaked her out" 🤣
well done Forrest, that single line was better written than the entire movie
34:18 :)
I died🤣🤣🤣
@@MNbenMN not all heroes wear capes
*finally sees it* Oh my god.
That line entertained me more than the whole movie, you're right.
mayonnaise the spiciest white people food.
I love how obvious it is none of these people have ever had a conversation with anybody outside of their church/Sunday school class. They’ve never had a single conversation with someone who doesn’t already agree with everything they say
And they never attended an acting class either.
It's very sad actually, they seem to live in their own world... I'm so hurt seeing there are people who could have access to modern knowledge and yet are so oblivious to reality that I can't laugh at them, I feel only pity (which maybe be a bad thing but still...)
And they're so deep in that bubble that whatever infantile "argument" they use is going to make us "wow that's brilliant" even though it's the same old rehashed (or even verbatim) phrases we have heard a million times.
We know most of their arguments better than they do, and we know what are they going to say before they even say it.
@@Mikri90 They always say that God lets us suffer to make us grow, but their critical thinking clearly didn't go through this process.
Not only that, but this movie wasn’t for you. This was for them. This movie managed to escape the bubble due to this channel
By the way, knight to h3 in the opening is a bad move, so grandpa not only doesn’t understand science but he doesn’t understand chess either lol
As a soccer player who plays basketball with a ping-pong ball, I can tell you in my years of experience in playing Minesweeper, chess is a game of logic and one of its crucial aspect of chess is thinking several moves ahead. If a creationist is unable to think ahead that their argument refutes itself when saying evolution is not observable while not knowing that what's told in the bible were mostly unobservable, you can safely assume that chess is not part of religious schools' extracurriculum. At best, you get WWJD but I assume Jesus never touched chess, sooo WWJD with chess? Idk, touching the bishops maybe?
4:54 he says "someone is going to grasp the concept there is a devil and he's working overtime" that statement implies that the devil is a hardworker and god is a slacker who clocked out after the bible and didn't want to return to his shift 😂
Why do you think h1tler got to exist?
And slavery.
And homophobia.
Stephanie dies from alcohol poisoning, wakes up sober and remembers going to hell. Gawd works in mysterious ways!
I would pay to watch a documentary of this man forced to go to an actual college.
I'm trying to picture him standing up in the middle of a lecture, interrupting with something inane, and standing silently waiting for a slow clap, but my brain won't allow it.
Or play chess
No one in that opening scene has ever been to a gym before.
This entire movie is so painful to watch I would have given up if not for Forrest keeping me sane through it lol
If you were wondering why he included the weird line about his daughter who won’t even talk to him, it is because DJP has a daughter who won’t even talk to him. She saw what a hateful troll he is and said “buh-bye”
And of course just like in this movie, he has no self-awareness to realize that he’s the problem.
This probably didn’t do much to mend that relationship…
Even better, this is part of a series of "Gramps" movies starring DJP, and in a later installment, "In Gramps' Shoes", Gramps' daughter has terrible money problems, so she begs Gramps for money and he benevolently agrees to move in with her and her kids to help pay her bills. While he's living with them, his daughter sees the error of her ways and realises that her father was right about everything, and he successfully leads the entire household back to Jesus.
Shockingly, this has *_not_* happened in real life. So DJP basically wrote, filmed, and starred in a fantasy movie of his daughter who hates him coming crawling back to him to apologise and beg for money. DJP truly is just an open book of petty grievances and resentments.
This 'film' was so painful to watch. How can fully grown adults have these views about universities?
Who is Donald James parker? He is terrible and weird and has a bad haircut, but yall talk about him like I should know who he is.
Forrest, I’m so sorry you had to watch this. You deserve a medal.
It's cookie and milk time. Yummy snacks make will help
Regarding Snarf. IMDB is saying the actor "Rusty Martin" is playing the character "Brad Hanson" but he is credited in the movie as "Rusty Martin Jr." It just means that he used to go by Rusty Martin Jr. but now he goes by Rusty Martin. This would be the same situation as an actor that went by her maiden name in a movie, and was credited as such, but then later started going by her married name. E.g. Harriett Smith - Madame Grey (as Harriett Johnson), which means Harriett Smith played Madame Grey and she went by Harriett Johnson at the time of the movie and she is listed as such in the credits.
As a biology major I am appalled who told them we were trying to summon satan
your secret is out!
"Trying" is such a patronizing word to use on hard working Satanists. I'm sure you're almost there.
Pfftt. Satan. Typical biologists picking an inferior demon. As engineering majors we summon Ba’al constantly!
@@Ligierthegreensun Personally I think Paimon might be a good idea :>
rookie mistake by biology majors, they think they take a 200-level bio course and are ready to summon the King of Hell, when they're barely ready to make a deal with a lesser imp!
AFAIK both the main climax of this "movie" as well as the ending occurred at the precise moment that "water fluoridation" was mentioned. Sounds like Gramps has been discussing our "precious bodily fluids" with General Jack T. Ripper.
Calling someone a creationist that only is expert in one creation story of over 100 is like calling someone a mechanic that only knows about oil change.
Wrong. Creationism is the statement (fact) that the earth and life was created rather than evolved. Do you seriously believe the earth evolved? Like I’m a square let me evolve into a ball and oh wait let’s evolve some water and plants and trees, and then let the plants evolve into monkeys and monkeys into Shakespeare. Sounds pretty dumb huh?
I love the dialogue in this movie. They really are saying human things in human ways with human words. Very human.
😂😂😂😂
"You will have to forgive my wife. She sometimes forgets she is not a space alien."
--Lost Skeleton of Cadavra
“The movie has a very human story”
Yes, it's very touching, I would know because I am human made out of flesh
yes indeed fellow human.. lets us grab an alcoholic human beverage to celebrate it :)
The oddest bit of all of this is I met lots of retired people taking plenty of classes in college, yet none of them stayed in the dorms.
If there was anyone older than college age, they would be the residence hall's director or something like that. They would not stick a 60-something-year-old in a Freshman dorm that's for sure. And why would a 60-something want to live in a dorm anyway?
You typically don't need to stay in the dorms if you have established residency elsewhere. I guess he wanted to pay more than rent for his tiny room when he moved to the college to be near to his estranged daughter he didn't call or mention again.
@R Boland lol. ".... Oh, yes, officer ....I am in the dorm filming because ....um ...um ....I'm making a movie! ...ya, a movie. ..About ..how, ...um ....education is bad because it ....um makes people know things instead of thinking I'm smart and holy!"
@@wesbeuning1733 wait, aren't dorms supposed to be cheaper than rent? Otherwise, why would people even use them and not stay outside the campus? o.O
Well if it wasn't obvious, this man has never actually been to college and has no idea what it's like. That's one reason why this was shot in a church and not on a campus.
That's why this entire college experience is just one big creationist wet dream. It's how he WANTS college to be.
Gary Stu goes to college.
How weird... my college mascot was a panther. I don't remember the advisors and professors acting like this...
throughout the entire movie I was joking to myself "And then everyone clapped"
AND THEN I GOT TO THE END
I think this character of Ty is how Neil actually sees himself. Good at everything, more knowledgeable than those around him, including the experts in their fields and unappreciated for his genius. It has narcissistic personality disorder written all over it.
It takes some gonads to think you are good enough to write, produce, and star in a movie. He seemingly acts the same in the movie as IRL.
The scene where everyone is applauding him makes me really uncomfortable because I know he must really connect with the character and think that he should be treated like that in real life because he so easily wins every debate... that he made up in his head.
This guy takes narcissism to a whole new level. A 60-something that outmatches early 20s in athletics; Sexually irresistible to college professors; Obviously smarter than anyone at a college; Worthy of a prolonged standing ovation. Forget believing in Jesus. This guy believes he's better than Jesus.
But neil is charmingly adorable to me, this is just vile and disgusting. Neil doesnt have an agenda, he just wanna be good a things.
@@phillyphakename1255 you trying to say Tommy Wiseau is a shity actor, director and script writer? Have you ever seen The Room? It's a masterpiece and will be a classic for years to come. It's sad they wouldn't allow his vampire car to be in the movie.
Remember The Office when Michael's mirror gimmick intrigues Oscar, who admits 'I want to explore it further... but I know there's nothing of content there.'
Florida family lawyer here. I can say with certainty that child support ends at age 18. 19 in Florida if the child is still in HS with a reasonable expectation of graduating before age 19. No CS for college kids.
EDIT - I had a few NDE's in undergrad from drinking. 🙂
Purity culture is insane indeed. My parents didn't want my siblings to see me holding hands with my fiance because it was too far for them.
Whats their religion? 💀
@@badasscustodes1697 their fundamentalist evangelical Christians. They're also young earth creationists. They're non-denominational, but that just basically means Baptist.
@@JCTheSniper15 oof I think
@@badasscustodes1697 it's a big oof
Uncensored hand-holding
Respect to Forrest for suffering through that film multiple times.
None of these people ever saw the inside of a college, ever.
In their first scene from the gym; not a single movement while working out is close to proper. If I did those reps my friends would laugh out loud, I meant they would LOL.
This was both entertaining and painful. No wonder his daughter doesn't talk to him anymore. I wouldn't either!
Apparently there is another film in the series that addresses this. I wouldn't wish it out beloved Forrest, but another review would be just fantastic.
Second hand embarrassment. 😆
That "fan club" scene is the most self-love I've ever seen written into anything. Kinda seems like a scene that's played in his head since his childhood, when he assured himself that one day, all those kids who weren't his friends would "live to regret it."
I worry that he's trying to gain cred to spend more time around the "young actors" he recruits.
Yeah, I just... he wrote himself a fan club, wrote at least one female character to fall for him, but he was too pure for her wicked ways (note: it isn't because he's married with a daughter. Strange how he doesn't have a wife but has a daughter), the good guy sees him as a role model, the good girl sees him as a father figure, the bully sees him as his greatest enemy.
This is peak self-insert Gary stu
@@Chaosmancer7 He's literally what the concept of Mary sues / Gary Stus were created for - bad amatuer writers inserting wishfullfiment versions of themselves into their stories for their own self-aggrandizement. Just pathetic.
@@ellierose6 he's Christian. Of course he wants to "hang out" with suspiciously young people.
@@richardmaurer9174 It's reminiscent of Neil Breen writing all those scenes where attractive young women have to snog him in the shower, shag him on a table, etc. I have to admire the ladies' acting skills, though. You can barely see the dry retching and eye rolling.
23:46 Okay, I have to admit "you won't get bragging rights if it turns out there's no afterlife" is an argument I hadn't heard before this movie. Not a good argument but, ya know, an... argument.
Just a nerd comment about the chess being played in this movie. First: they are playing with inverted positions. White pawns should be placed on row 2, but they are on row 7 instead, where you generally place the black pawns. Not such a big deal. At 25:46, that's a normal opening, 1. e4 e5, nothing unusual.
But then Ty decides to continue with 2. Nh3. Terrible choice. Unless you are a super GM, or you want to troll your opponent, you never play your knight to the edge of the board that early on. But then his opponent does the unthinkable, instead of taking advantage of the knight on the edge of the board, he also plays his knight on the edge of the board! 2. Nh3 Nh6.
The rest of the game is really amateur. Senseless moves. I reconstructed the game as 1. e4 e5 2. Nh3 Nh6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 Na6 5. Bxh6 gxh6 6. Qf3 Bc5 7. Qxf7# 1-0, which is a very low level chess. There might be different ways to reconstruct this game, but none of the moves either by black or by white make any sense whatsoever.
Certified nerd. Love it.
You put more thought and effort into your comment than Donald James Parker put into this entire movie. This is not a condemnation of you.
@@mjjoe76 I found it quite easy to reconstruct the game from the given positions. It didn't take much, just enough chess knowledge. It baffles me that he still shows the board, displaying such a low level understanding of the game. Perhaps he could have just taken a game played by two GMs and replayed it on the board there, which is what most movies do, but instead he decided to show us how little he knows about chess at all.
For my entire life I wanted to go into writing but was too afraid that I wouldn't be very good at it. Thankfully, I can rest easy knowing that movies like this exist and there is no way in hell my work could ever be as bad as them.
Keep up the good work, Forest.
from one writer to another, absolutely go for it! I think you'll surprise yourself with what you can create!
If you want some excellent examples of horrific writing I'd suggest the Left Behind series (chances are libraries or thrift stores have them). You don't even have to start with the first one because the incoherent plot is incoherently written. The writing is actually worse than the subject material
You should absolutely 100% go for it!! As a writer, I will honestly tell you that the WORST writing is not writing at all.
Just start putting your thoughts down. Eventually,, a story will come out. You can do it.
LMAO!!!
@@maxdanielj If you listen to the God Awful Movies podcasts by Noah, Heath and Eli, they’ve done that whole series.
The only time god was peripherally mentioned in my Biology 101 class was when our professor mentioned evolution, and a young woman in the front of the class seemed like she was trying to have a moment: she said, “I find it hard to believe we came from monkeys.” And the professor just said, “suspend your disbelief.” and went on with the lecture.
gigachad bio professor, very solid response.
I would've said "and you'd be right, but for the wrong reasons. Now shut up and listen"
It's not very hard, Apes are an offshoot of Old World Monkeys, and Great Apes are an offshoot of Apes.
So we both come from monkeys and apes, and are still apes.
"I find it hard to believe we came from monkeys." I know we didn't, because we're apes, not monkeys. Also, taxonomy-wise, monkeys don't even exist as a grouping; Old World monkeys are more closely related to people than they are to New World monkeys.
I like to tell people the truth - humans didn't come from monkeys; they had a common ancestor.
26:07 this guy has literally played the "sodium attack" 💀 how in the world did he win anything playing like this
“Maybe she had a vision of some food that isn’t mayo and that freaked her out”, hahhhahhaaa - Forrest where to you come up with this stuff! Nearly split myself laughing.
In all honesty, the "20 shots or Everclear = instant death" part sounds like the most accurate thing in the movie
only because it's everclear ; any other booze would be pretty unbelievable
@@SocialistStrikeyeah, 190 proof is 95% alcohol, proof is just double the percentage.
I might be a physics teacher instead of a biology one, but I can confirm that is exactly how we make our lesson plans!
yep! being a vet, im sure all my college prof.from all the biology,anatomy,chemistry,bio-chemistry,genetics,etc...classes i took,thats the way they prepared for class🤣🤣🤣
I am starting my first semester as a professor this spring, I wish I knew I need goat heads and candles for a proper lesson plan!
Of course. Everybody knows gravity is only a theory. (Now how can I sneak in flat earth into this?)
I Knew it!
@@joachimschoder “like evolution, gravity is also only a theory” that’s how you’d do it
Oh goodness! I remember the fluorination debate in my town! It is a real thing and I am sad to remember that there are people that have problems with fluoride
To be clear i didn't guess it before you said it 😂, i didn't guess anything, i know too many weird things that creationists have problems with, but fluoride did not come to mind
I appreciate forest keeping in the part where he's playing with the lights at the beginning of the video. It reminds me of opening gifts as a kid during christmas and immediately wanting to try them out regardless of what they were. such pure joy
I’m on my liberal arts college campus walking to my earth science class rn dressed in a way that would make an old lady blush, watching my favorite online professor take down an uneducated, radicalized, science denier. Life is really really good.
To quote Prof. Valkai "Thank Gilgamesh"
@@freezycastform Gilgamesh AKA Gigamesh. It's a true wonder why nobody made this joke before.
Edit: now that I made the comment, I know why.
You must just be getting indoctrinated from some "liberal secular humanist professor."🤣🤣🤣
@@kevinlawrence1582 oh you know it. They actually have devil horns, too!
@TheOnionQueen Hell I'd sell my soul to the devil if it meant rocking a sixk pair of horns.
The presentation of atheists in this movie is an incredibly accurate representation of how Christians think atheists live. I think the messaging was a little more subtle, but often just as blatant. Which is why, when i actually started meeting atheists and realized they were normal people, and in fact often more kind, loving, respectful, happy, etc, than the Christians I was raised around, it just added to me realizing how much I'd been misled and lied to
It amazes me everytime I see Christians have Atheists talk about turning people into sinners ... I have never heard an atheist say that. Because in general, atheists do not believe in sin.
Me too! When I was a kid, I assumed everyone I knew was Christian because they were all so nice. Then when I was in fourth grade, I found out one of my friends didn't believe in God and I was so shocked because she was so nice. Of course, nowadays I know that one doesn't have to be a Christian to be a good person and have a fair few atheist friends. Thank goodness for exposure to new ideas!
Holy crap Forrest. Everything you touch turns to gold. I love everything you do, bro!
Amazing. Amazing. Amazing.
Love your work Forrest
I grew up believing stuff like this which is why I was discouraged to go to college. I’m 26 now and going to college, and would never had if I believed this stuff. In a couple years I’ll get to teach high schoolers the science I wasn’t allowed to believe in! Keep it up
I hope your way of teaching will grow the sprouts of scientific interests within your students. To me, there's nothing more beautiful than sharing the greatness of science with others to the point they start thinking more and see the universe as it is and exploring it.
I actually started deconversion while I was in the Marines. Afterward, I went to college. I then came out as an atheist to my mother. Her response was basically that it was the fault of education.
@@DaveCM Unfortunately, when education is equated with brainwashing, it's both easy and right to be ignorant. Because you can't un-learn something harmful, it is better to never learn it.
@@DaveCM Yeah, that damn education. What -have the Romans- has education ever done good for us? 🤦♂
Jonah dude, that's frickin' amazing!! Discouraging people to go to college for financial reasons is one thing, but telling young people not to learn? Now that is just bananas. There is almost nothing else that will help a person's future more than educating themselves, so it's really damn cool that you're going to be a teacher; that's really commendable.
Anyway, hope you're having a good weekend, you deserve it! :)
I love the bit when he asks the teacher the ludicrous question about natural selection: what's its size, what's its mass, etc.
And we're supposed to believe that a remotely competent biology teacher isn't able to come up with the blindingly obvious answer to that?
I could definitely see someone getting flustered by a question like that, not because it's at all difficult to answer but because it's such an absurd question that doesn't have an answer. It's like someone asking what is the mass of friendship, or the size of happiness, or the location of meaningfulness. If someone asked me any of those questions, I would also stop short because it's such a silly question.
@@equidistanthoneyjoy7600 okay but what's the MASS of your confusion????
Okay now the Holy Spirit, what’s it’s size what’s its mass?
@@enigma1863 it's Mass is in the church *badum tss*
It's like asking what color math is...
Blue, it's blue, I don't know why but it is.
I've seen a few entertaining film reviews over the years, but your's have become the best of any of them, and I don't even watch 97% of the video, I listen to them while I work and look up from time to time. Thanks for the laughs!
Here in Norway you pay child support as long as the kids stay in school or uni. Also after the age of 18. But then the money goes directly to the kids, not the parent they are living with. 😊
OMG PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE! I didn't know I needed Forrest reacting to terrible creationist movies until now. This was so entertaining.
this totally made my day
I need to see if this was covered by the GAM team.
Forrest Reloaded
The dialog, the camera work, the acting, everything about this movie makes it look like an "adult movie", if ya know what I mean.
Well, one person jerks off to it
How dare you insult the adult film industry like that?! I'm sure they have better sound than this movie 😂
@@emilyrln that's true.
No, I don't know what you mean. I'm Christian; I don't consume gay porn at all.
@@ominous-omnipresent-they is this... sarcasm? *opens hand to butterfly*
When he comes out of the room with the two college girls -- Was that an homage to Lott or Three's Company?
I love these movies! Keep making more. It brought me a lot of joy!
For me, the most unbelievable part of this movie is the daughter, with that accent, calling her father “dad” and not “daddy”
The one with the little girl voice?
I find it hard to believe that any group can be so ridiculously stupid and still end up being in charge of a country's a nations laws and government.
that's democracy for ya
@@cerberaodollamSocrates was right 😂
@@nuridenizdurucu1249I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of Plato
It's actually not that hard to believe when you realize that the corporations are the ones running the show. Stupid people are perfect for government, as they're really easy to influence through bribery-- sorry, I mean "lobbying".
This might be my favourite video on UA-cam. I come back every now and then to rewatch because it's so amazing 😂
Sigh. Clearly no one in this movie has ever been in a college.
Since nobody's mentioned the chess problems in the small clip they're showing:
1) Their board is backwards. White starts on the 1st and 2nd ranks, black starts on the 7th and 8th; however, in the clip, the ranks are reversed.
2) They aren't keeping track of their moves on a scorecard. This means neither of them can go back to review the game or show a record of the game to the arbiter (also there is no arbiter, which is essentially the referee to a chess match)
3) This supposed Tournament Winner played 1.e4 e5 2.Nh3 which any beginner can tell you is a novice opening mistake. Not a game-losing one, to be sure, but there's simply no reason to put your knight on the edge of the board instead of the center.
4) There would never be that much talking during a chess game. Chess is a game that requires immense concentration and calculation to be good at, and halfway paying attention is a great way to miss important tactics.
Stockfish on depth 40 gives -0.9 for 1. e4 e5 2. Nh3, so it's not such a small mistake... well, unless you play on the level of the "Sons of the King"
Well, he has a terrible jump shot, but wins basketball, is ugly and weird and has a terrible haircut, but has a college professor throwing herself at him... so, yeah, doesn't surprise me he is bad at chess but wins.
Forrest, the reason the main character talks about his daughter not speaking to him is that, in real life, his daughter AND granddaughter don't speak to him! He's worked that into most of his...movies and, in one of them, "In Gramps' Shoes", (God Awful Movies did that one on Episode 353!), the daughter in the film has to have him move in with her because she's having money troubles. I kid you not, he's talking about his real life! 🙂
Oof, big yikes 😬😬😬
Yes! Love GAM.
To steal from religious folk; Eli did God’s work for reading through the blog posts! 😂😂 But it’s one of my favorite episodes of GAM and I’m glad to see someone else cover it.
4 minutes in and I'm thinking, "Maybe god is trying to tell you to quit being a proselytizing douche bag and patch things up with your daughter before it's too late."
@@thelostone6981 Yup. Eli's research into the films gives really good insights into the idiocy they cover. And I love the way Forrest covered it, too, especially by showing clips of the film. I always wonder how the GAM movies look on screen, but not enough to watch most of the movies they cover myself!
This is officially my new favorite video, I had to watch it twice in a row just to make sure I caught everything 😂!!!!
That character’s preamble at the beginning, it just made me want to give it a technicolour yawn, what a plank.
I laughed every time I saw them try to pass off the interior of a mega-church as a college classrooms and locations around campus. Even the senes that are supposedly taking place in someone's house, or a the party location, looks like they just filmed them in church lounges. I think that pretty much the only filming location they could afford for this movie was the interior of this ONE mega-church.
Once he pointed out that this was a church, I couldn't unsee it for the rest of the video.
Oh, my wife and I actually came super close to guessing fluoridation! She originally comes from a very religious family (who are not creationists or even all that into conspiracies) but the "flouride is a mind control substance by the government" is totally one of the conspiracies they believe in!
And I thought that was just a plot line in dr Strangelove (joke I know people actually believe the stuff)
Wow, that is just depressing
@@Revanbzn Yeah when she first moved in she had flouride-less toothpaste. It was a very surreal moment when I found out.
The mother has a masterclass of emotional display during that "debate". The look of sheer horror when the biology teacher is being useless was inspirational.
The snarf bit just kills me every time 😂
This is too good. I'm the only one of my siblings to go to college and I've been told by my family that college brainwashed and liberalized me... I got a degree in computer science and never once learned about politics. I did take a biotech class but that was it for biology. They think I'm lying to them to protect the college... It's actually wild to look at your parents and ask why I would lie and for them to confidently reply that I was too indoctranated into the conspiracy to tell the truth.
#NeverMovingBackToMyHometown
I'm so sorry you have to deal with that *shudder*
Yeah, that's rough. One of Conservatism's base assumptions seems to be that anything true is also self-evident even at first glance, which would imply that not only is it impossible for them to be wrong, it's also impossible for anyone else to THINK they're wrong. And so anyone who says they're wrong HAS to be lying. It's a very destructive thing to believe, because of course so many people would have to be liars that it could only mean that there's a conspiracy at work, and that is a notoriously difficult logic loop to break people out of. I feel for ya.
Thanks, it's not as bad these days. A few years of not becoming addicted to drugs or murdering anyone and my parents realized I hadn't actually changed much. In fact they kinda went full 360 once and said I still have the light of Christ in my eyes, which they tried to convince me means I'm not actually atheist lol.
My dad had similar attitudes about many things. He passed away, but I got the house. It was a sad day, but also a great start for the whole rest of my life, except without a massive oppressive force.