This is why I chose the name seraph instead of cherub, it means both snake and angel so I can deceive not only about my gender (I’m non-binary) but also the fact I like snakes more than holy symbols
Well the video briefly goes through the angel hierchy at one point. The three most high ranking angels are so bizarre looking. They do remind me of monsters from Lovecraft.
With the old testament of the Bible, I wouldn't be surprised if Christians are actually worshipping a god that looks like something H,P Lovecraft would write about
@@laundrewashington3734 :O (Though to be fair the Chaos Emeralds are meant to be sort of the opposite of that. Basically congealed grossness. Still works!)
@@laundrewashington3734 Of course! Have you heard of the youtube series on the Polygon channel called Unraveled? There's an episode that's very relevant here.
Dante: My dead girlfriend ditched me to sit on a giant red rose in Heaven. Saint-Bernard: That's ruff, buddy. Edit: Holy Hell (lol), that's a lot of likes. New Edit: I've stolen Clockwork Kirlia's amazing suggestion and replaced "rough" with "ruff". It's not plagiarism if I'm telling everyone I've stolen it! I think...
Beatrice abandoning Dante sounds harsh until you realise that in reality Dante was a creepy incel who met the woman all of twice, once when she was 8. He never dated her and never even really knew her, but obsessed about her for the rest of his life.
Well, yes, of course that would make a lot of sense if Beatrice was a person, but she's the love interest for the Author's self insert in a satire. It's big time Lisa from The Room energy. Him being 9 when he met her *does* make it more creepy, because who actually is still pining over an elementary/primary school field trip crush decades later? I could see pining after a childhood friend if you never clicked with anyone else, but at best it was two random encounters a decade apart with the same girl. Admittedly, at 18 (his "second" encounter) I could see feeling like they're the "one that got away" as not unreasonable and assuming she shared a name with a girl who changed your life a decade ago a guy from his time might have thought it was fate. Then she dies before the Rule of Three can have them meet a third time a decade after that meeting. Tragic. I mean, she was married, but still.
Y’all are forgetting that this is not an uncommon thing for poets to do. They’ll chose a random crush they used to have and make her their “muse.” It is unlikely that Dante was as head over heels for her as shown in the poem, and is more likely using her as an allegory. True, it’s a weird practice of basically making a muse out of a random girl, but at least Dante never made it too creepy.
Well, that's the short version... Actually, it was a relatively common trope/device employed by sci-fi(?) and fantasy(?) writers of that time. They would employ it when the exposition required was either too difficult (as your teacher explained) OR in the case that it was so long or complicated that readers would more likely skip it or rage-quit... There's a lot of abuse of the thing over the centuries since, too. It's led to a lot more of the "hand-waving" excuse than is necessary to create decent descriptive in a good storyline... SO beware in employing it yourself, because it's easy to slip into the pitfall of "almost had it, but feels flat for lack of work". ;o)
My friends always called Dante's stories really bad Christian fan fiction. I laughed it off at the time, thinking "yeah it's probably just a trippy story with massive artistic liberties and theological errors". I didn't know my friends were being literal.
poissony Well you also aren't wrong. Dante pretty much got most of it wrong, and yet people believe this to be fact. I wonder about humanity these days.
Red: This version of heaven follows the 14th century model of the solar system. Also Red: why are they visiting the planets out of order?! *shows the modern model of the solar system.*
Ikr? She even referred to the old model as "Geocentric" without even giving thought to what it means! Thankfully, OSP improved on getting their facts straight.
Fun fact: the term seraph does refer to snakes, but it specifically means “fiery serpent”. But it’s not talking about a fire-breathing snake. It refers to venomous snakes, with the word “fiery” referring to the burning pain a person experiences after being bitten by a venomous snake.
The funniest thing is, Dante apparently only actually met Beatrice twice in his life (first on a party when he was 9 and second when he was 18 and walked into her in the street). So she must really have been drop-dead gorgeous, if she left such an impression on him, that he immortalised her in his work. So they weren't boy- and girlfriend, he just had a life-long crush on a girl he barely knew. XD
For my honors class we had to read part of this story, and when I was discussing it with my peers, they were all immensely confused. I looked them dead in the eyes, “Jesus” “What” “Everything is Jesus” And that is the story on how for the first time I was ever good at symbolism. Any old European literature is just Jesus symbolism..
Ikr like Justinian got 12 episodes like woah and da thing is they made good episodes like even blue mentions Justinian for goodness sake one of the first fleet ships was called Justinian then again one was called friendship but seriously he’s well known RED!!!
I'm atheist and not very into books but I wanted to read the entire bible out of pure curiosity for some years now for some reason *so let's bet to see who does it first.... probably her, not gonna lie(?*
@@maucazalv903 as an atheist. Please, please go and read it. Nothing is more satisfying when your Christian family says that “the only reason you’re atheist is because you haven’t read the Bible” right before you drop a banger of a verse on them. My personal favorite is “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.” Then proceeding into a rant about how if the Bible has so many inaccuracies, then you guys could have always made up new bullshit to make it work, and you never did.
@@supreme_king_obama1158 Inaccuracies? Not if you keep it in Latin, or the original Greek and Hebrew also my favorite verse is Matthew 25:31-46. Also, the Bible itself deposits supreme authority in the Church Matthew 16:18-19, 1 Timothy 3:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:14-15 etc. The reason you probably became an atheist was due to your disillusionment from a Sola scriptura heretical shithole due to their lack of tradition and being mind-numbingly soft. Though, I would not put it beyond you to have never read more than Mark. Scripture is not meant to be the end all be all. It was built off of the Church and finally finished being compiled in the late 4th century.
What I like about all this is that most of this is totally fanfic, except for the cherubs and the eyeball wheels, which are both totally described in the Bible
@@moonbasebop3699 If we're talking about the same Justinian, he came pretty close relatively speaking. He reclaimed Italy and some African provinces, that's more than anyone else ever managed.
@@timothymcleanJustinian I claimed these lands for only short times, losing them again and again to Western European resistance. Also, at what cost to his empire? He had to steal the livelihoods of his own soldiers and expend much of the Byzantines' wealth. This made him unpopular, almost leading to his deposition. If anything, he should be renowned for the Corpus Iuris Civilis and the construction of the Hagia Sophia. Who did more than him when reconquering the Roman Empire was the Muslim and Turkish empires that would later claim most of the Mediterranean.
@1tiercel Not really. The real Beatrice married a banker and met Dante only on two occasions, but he was so fascinated by her that he made her a major character in his trillogy.
The fun thing about the seraphim being "the burning ones" and seraph being "a snake" is that some linguists think the seraphim look like/are dragons, because "giant snake with FIRE!!!"
@@Xalerdane Skyrim less so, but Morrowind was written by a college student who studied religions and Christian theology specifically. Now rethink why Peryite is said to rule over natural order while being an ugly, emaciated dragon... much like Satan, while Akatosh and Alduin are essentially functioning as Jesus and God's reset button respectively. You can pretty much map most things to Christianity or adjacent theological bits once you pick it up. So go re-read the Sermons of Vivec, keeping Hindu myths and Christianity close to reference, see how much of the madness you realize is a very different flavor of madness than just "what was he on". (also notice that Nerevar, who Vivec, Almalexia and Dagoth Ur are all obsessed with, as mortal gods, is CHOCK FULL of hints that he's mythically important: he carries the "ghartoki" -- which is in-context the rune for the hand of God, the _weapon_ of God, and the action of striking someone down... and he has one in each hand. I actually spent enough time chewing on Ehlnofex to break down Nerevar's name as being a Significant name as of the Morrowind lore era: you can break him down into Ne (not) Re (light, as in Reman, Light [of] man), Var (mouth, the action of casting a spell) Mora (forest, forbidden knowledge, chaos). In other words, he's literally named "I am not the Morningstar". In context, that makes him an expy of Archangel Michael.) (Michael Kirkbride was on LSD and a mental breakdown from his exams period and a thesis due next week, but given how close that is to religious half-starved sleep deprived fever dreams like Revelations, close enough to scripture to be negligible impact.)
And these aren't even the stange angels, like the ones guarding Eden that one is just a 3 faced head that shoots fire from it's eyes, which are just everywhere on this head, oh it also may be made of fire and screams in the language of angels, the other is just a 6 armed 3 headed giant wielding giant flaming swords and wings for days with eyes on his swords and all over its body and wings, when its swords touch the ground it causes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, oh and looking at it will drive any man insane and depending on how faithful, may just burn your soul into nothing
@@HovektheArtist So looking at that abomination has a likelihood of actually living skid marks on your soul? Oh my God, the Pole Position narrator was that six-armed three-headed giant!
@@DigitalDaydreams so are these descriptions from revelation? I looked up the canto and couldn't find a description of the thrones as multi-eyed wheels at all.
I had to stop for a few minutes because I was laughing too much. I wish I had to do a book report on this (which would be ironically hell) just to add that joke at the end. Worth it!
"The Old Guy in question is Saint Bernard - who for the purposes of this review will be represented as a dog." I actually rolled on the floor laughing at this until after the video had ended and I had to go back.
@@andrewames247 ergot poisoning was extremely common due to the preparation methods used at the time. So yeah based on logic I wouldn't be surprised if he had a bad trip once and though it was inspirational then proceeded to write the greatest fan fict shit post of all time.
I still think it's really funny that while most people, even in the modern day they don't portray god as anything because it gets religious flack. but no. Dante said "it's straight up a book"
Justinian was probably the best emperor the Byzantines ever had. Almost all laws in the modern day are modeled after the law code he implemented, he built the Hagia Sophia, he and his wife massively advanced the rights of women in his empire, and even managed to lead the byzantines through massive riots, Persian invasions, and he even survived the black death. Extra Credits has an excellent series about him and his wife, Theodora, who was also awesome.
James O'Dell perfect point, honestly was probably the most important Roman Emperor ever as helped Italy become city states instead of barbarian, helped massively for the prestige of the eastern Roman Empire and he certainly left the empire in amazing growth and expansion but was simply not taken up well enough from his successors
Shane Love His uncle was pretty dope too. This nigga was a peasant living in the country side. He goes to Constantinople, and works his way up to head of the Royal guard. Sends his nephew Justinian to school to prep him on being Emperor. Becomes Emperor in his later years and leaves it all to Justinian.
Virgil must be so relived he did not have to go through all that with Dante, probably chilling in Hell with a book going "Welp, he's Beatrice's problem now."
Well after dante got dropped off back in the woods with the she wolf who might or might or might not have been beatrice he finds out his senpai vergil gets to go to heaven and chill with beatrice for going through the trouble of escorting him, so the whole thing could have also been a way for dante to hook vergil up with his dead gf
Which given that Beatrice was the one that sent Virgil in the first place to give that guided tour does that mean this is kinda a complicated plot to seduce Virgil and post-mortally cheat on Dante?
@@TheRealPentigan Can’t cheat on someone who wasn’t ever in a relationship with you. Seriously, RL Beatrice was someone Dante met _once_ as a child and never stopped obsessing over.
Poirot's Mustache to be somewhat fair they don't "burn in Hell" they're in Limbo which is essentially a big garden where everyone just sits around sighing and brooding.
Archangel is sometimes used to refer to the 7 greatest Seraphim, of which one is Gabriel. Because as Red brings up in the video, terminology in Christianity is inconsistent.
We basically have two sets of archangels: the "slightly above regular angels" and the seven big Seraphim, who are also referred to by this name. So we got the archangels and THE Archangels *guitar riff*
@@hypoaktivnaovca Depends. Some man categorized the Hiearchy for Angels, but most Christian Do times agree the Archangels (the Seraphs) are one of the highest positions. Depending on which branch, there are ranging from 4 too more, examples are Uriel, Raphael, Michael, Gabriel, etc. You can check the Apocrypha or just the Prophets Section of the Old Testement in the Bible, where they talk about angels. It gets whole lotta confusing, since the Jewish system for Angels are completely different than this one.
@@calebkim5321 This is catholic canon so the Seraphim are not Archangels (That's Jewish) as Seraphiel and Metatron are the Seraph Archangels while michael is considered a seraph he's normally just called "Archangel". The others have not really been called Seraphim. Metatron is the record keeper and Seraphiel leads the Seraphim in praising god in music and chant. There are many Seraphim, only a couple are Archangels. The hierarchy is more about how close they are to god and what they do. the Seven archangels are considered the highest of all angels as they surround god during the end of days or whatever but their acting in the world makes them one of the "Earthly" angels.
The writing stile changes, metaphors get harder and more comlpicated as purgatory and heaven go on. The very last chant of Heaven is a fucking metaphor, its really cool as poetry, but hard to understand. hell is much more straightforward.
I think also the video game may have some impact on this. Even if based on these three videos about the source material wasn't all that accurate but still a fun game.
Several reasons. First, its the first part. Second, we are naturally attracted to the sin and its punishment in a vicarious way. "Look at this sinner and his deserved punishment." Third, as Dante continues his journey his language becomes more elevated, and the subjects become more abstract. In Paradiso, Dante is having full theological discussions where as in Inferno the residents are incapable of having such discussions.
So, my takeaway from this was that Dante's epic three-part self-insert fic was written on LSD and/or illustrated by Hideaki Anno circa "The End of Evangelion".
naww the Justinian you're thinking of was pretty useless. Not only did he all but fail to keep constantinople in tact..he destroyed rome through his delusionial idea of restoring the empire..without understanding the world around him (makes sense since he never left his palace in constantinople) On top of this he had a terrible habit of starting wars he could not finish in the surrounding regions around the balkans and middle east which led to big, big problems down the road..on top of this he purged the greek world of it's schools and philosophy is favor of churches..which bring up another issue of basically all of the byzantine treasury going towards churches instead of infrastructure leading the the cities to become chronically run down. In otherwords Justinian was by no means awesome..he just made enough of a point to ensure his name was written down as to seal a spot in history.
Andrew Catherwood Eversun You're thinking of Justinian the second, the successor to Constantine the IV. JustinDL97 was talking about Justinian the first. Justinian the second is barely remembered in history, but Justinian the first, the one mentioned in the video, was fairly successful and for that reason, earned the title of Justinian the Great.
i actually like the idead of god not being an human or humanoid being. "he's suposed to be eternal, be everywhere at the same time, and when u had a human face we can't stop to think of him as a human or human like"
Hades But in Genesis, God says he made man in his image. Dante was probably just going for some idiotic eldritch theme to make it more exciting because he was Catholic.
Lightning Warrior935 even as a child I interpreted that as a loose definition of image, i.e. a higher dimensional ethereal being consider his image, most likely sentience. Although it is a quite literal definition if you view time as a spatial dimension
The constant assault on Dante's retina was so freaking funny. Like when the Empyrean is just pure light and it melts into his face and he just smiles because why not my eyes are so long done for who even cares
@@iwannaseehowlongyoucanmakethis Journey to The West is a massively cultural appropriate, well written series. This is just some Italian who is WAAAAAAY too Christian and hated the Greeks
I'd be hard-pressed to name another series that I've enjoyed so much on UA-cam. It took me a little over an hour to watch your inferno, purgatorio, and paradiso videos because I kept pausing to commit the storyline to memory and to tell my wife about it! 10/10, great stuff
@@peytonbeaumont354 The Bible, and Christian mythology is weird. There is "archangels", the second tier of angel. And then there is "Archangels", the 7 greatest Seraphim. Of which Gabriel is one of them.
REALLY weird when you turned Saint Bernard into a dog for a joke. Mainly because equating saints and specifically God to dogs is a pretty popular form of Blasphemy in Italian colloquialism. The More You Know...
@@heroofcadia5211 that's subjective, he's from the Byzantine (AKA east roman) empire, but by then the empire was very greek, so he was either/both Greek and Roman, depending how you look at it.
@@goombanr3411 True, although the empire back then was still quite large and had a lot more ethnicities, not just Greeks, so there is an argument to be made. And considering he reconquered Rome, there is litte doubt I think that they still considered themselves roman (in the sense of nationality, not ethnicity). Also IMO a lot of what is considered Greek as a nationality is a broad label made in a nice effort of historical revisionism during the days of the Ottoman empire.Alas, much like Dante and Red, I also have a Greek bias, being Bulgarian (Not to say that we did not have historical revisionism during the waking of our national identity in the Ottoman Empire).
So... God is three circles, one of which is JESUS CIRCLE, and inside there's rainbows and a magic love book ... wow no wonder you're not allowed to draw him, imagine how weird all those fancy paintings would be
Actually because nobody is allowed to see him directly because they wouldn't survive. Moses never got a direct look and he ended up glowing and wearing a veil. Though you think someone would painted Jesus. Though why they voted for him to be kill vs the actual criminal is beyond me. Even if they didn't believe in him I think I would vote for the guy with healing power with all the things that doctors can't help you with.
@@theresahall6197 because it was prophesied He would be killed by everyone, PLUS (looking at it from a non religious perspective), He did the equivalent of going into a modern day Muslim town in Pakistan and saying "everything you know is wrong"
Jon B okay, but why not have Ron Swanson in there as Virgil and Chris Pratt as Dante? That way you avoid the horror of seeing Seth Rogen without James Franco.
Not sure if you’ll see this, but I really really enjoy this video. The combination of your humorous interpretation of Heaven mixed with your really atmospheric, starry art makes this a fun watch. I like this a lot :)
Thanks you're amazing in summarizing this crazy stuff in a fun and understandable way, I tried to read the Divine Comedy in JR High and got a splitting headage after 30 minutes xD
They both were super cool and badass? Like the law codes justinian made are the basis for modern law, he reconquered like most of the fallen western empire, and was the last truly great roman emperor
Alix DiViant well if Internet comments have taught me anything it's that all historical people are terrible, did nothing and everything we know about them was wrong
Its actually interesting, the path that dante took through heaven is like the path up the kabbalah tree of life, the first sephiroth above earth(malkuth) leads to the moon (yesod), mercury (hod) , sun (tipheroth), mars (geburah) , jupiter (chesed) , saturn (binah) , it looks like dante might have been inspired by kabbalah of some type
So... Late to the party, but a few points. First, chill out people, Eve Is there. She's sitting in the Rose, and her leaf is right under Mary's. Second, the best translation I know is the one by Dorothy L. Sayers, it's highly readable and her notes are fantastic. Third, Beatrice is ALSO Jesus.
I know this video was five years ago but I just to say as a Catholic myself even with the changes this mythology I love all three parts of each, and just want to thank for your awesome story telling
10 minutes in and Dante drank shiny river water that made him see a levitating rose and all this other trippy stuff? Are we certain Paradiso wasn’t like…a really bad acid trip? This sounds like a mother load of LSD? Anybody?
What i heard: Light light light light light light light light light light light light light light light light light light light Reading Rainbow.
...you're not wrong...
Yeah that what I remeber
Take a shot everytime red says light. You'll meet god before the video ends
I can go twords the skyyyy...
rrrrrrriiiiIIIIDE ON THE MAGIC SCHOOLBUS beep beep light light butterfly in the sky. Good night
"He also talks to Justinian who is... a guy?"
Something tells me Red and Blue don't run their scripts by eachother before they upload.
They really dont
@@luciusvernus3174 oh hey, a god of prophecy.
Mind giving me one?
@@wickederebus Sure
Something tells me you didn't get the joke
at the time the of writing my first comment in this chain, the person I @ed was named Apollo.
Just a note for anyone who sees this later on.
There's a reason angels always start with "do not be afraid"
Cause they be freaky yo!
But seriously, flaming eyeball wheels and multiheaded four winged monstrositys are not exactly the most angelic sight
This is why I chose the name seraph instead of cherub, it means both snake and angel so I can deceive not only about my gender (I’m non-binary) but also the fact I like snakes more than holy symbols
We don't talk about the Ophanim. . .
@@flamingpi2245 maybe, but they all RAD
The ohphanim are the weirdest celestial entities and as a Hindu some of ours are quiogendered animal/human hybrids
Interesting parallel between Dante and Lovecraft:
They both seem to have an interest in "mysterious colors, unlike any seen on Earth"
Interesting observation:
We may be worshipping a Lovecraftian entity :/
@@plant9399 Based on God's behaviour in the old testament: yes.
Well the video briefly goes through the angel hierchy at one point. The three most high ranking angels are so bizarre looking. They do remind me of monsters from Lovecraft.
With the old testament of the Bible, I wouldn't be surprised if Christians are actually worshipping a god that looks like something H,P Lovecraft would write about
The video she made about Lovecraft and the colors like none ever seen on earth was hiiiiilarious omg lol
“That baby thing is called a putto”
As a Spanish speaker this killed
SAME lol. What a cute little "putto"
@LagiNaLangAko23 is a cussword
@LagiNaLangAko23 i known Just say i dying of laugh
As an Italian... It wasn't a surprise
Yeahhhh the video uses "putto" in the way that Dante (an Italian) would have used it
>get an image of god in your head
"well idk what to think so im gonna imagine a circle"
>youre wrong its a circle
"wait what"
Hello... I have been sent to tell you that you are the prophet..... goodbye.....
@@lmbusiness5300 Change da world
My final message
Goodb ye
If you put this after you watched the vid I doubt you told the truth.
He took the word was God pretty literally
Explains Where OFF got a lot of it's ideas from
“Yeah that ring is spinning the fastest because it’s the holiest!”
Christian sonic confirmed.
But only after collecting all of the Chaos emeralds.
@@clockworkkirlia7475 you mean the seven virtuous gems that represents the Seven Virtues?
@@laundrewashington3734 :O
(Though to be fair the Chaos Emeralds are meant to be sort of the opposite of that. Basically congealed grossness. Still works!)
@@clockworkkirlia7475 then chaos emeralds represent the 7 deadly sins (Pride, Wrath, Lust, Greed, Gluttony, Envy, and Sloth)
@@laundrewashington3734 Of course! Have you heard of the youtube series on the Polygon channel called Unraveled? There's an episode that's very relevant here.
Bold of you to assume I wouldn't put a biblically accurate cherubim on a valentine's day card
cool, i'm not the only one who would do that. nice.
I know what I'm doing next year
We need that
That would be pretty badass, tho, I'd love to have a card like that
Btw, I'm also named after the Cherubim
FWIW, as illustrated with the seraphim, the -im pluralises and the singular is cherub.
"Even the Magic School Bus visited the planets in order, AND THEY DID THAT IN A BUS!" :D
The planets are sorted in order of how frequently they repeat their motion in the heavens. Should make sense now.
@@SimonClarkstone it's a quote from the video. A really funny one by the way.
@@parkerhynson3581 I know. But Red and some viewers might genuinely not know why they were in that order.
@@SimonClarkstone Ah, okay
Geocentrism, I guess.
I once drank "liquid light." All I remember is waking up half-naked outside an abandoned metronome factory.
Did a babe tell you to drink or my uncle?
Anonymous I have the feeling you're talking about a fuck ton of alcohol
Was it off brand glowstick juice?
Popalupa wich half??
Popalupa wtf is metronome
Red: Justinian was just some guy we don't care about anymore
Blue: *loads shotgun with murderous intent*
nah he needs her for content
Dante: My dead girlfriend ditched me to sit on a giant red rose in Heaven.
Saint-Bernard: That's ruff, buddy.
Edit: Holy Hell (lol), that's a lot of likes.
New Edit: I've stolen Clockwork Kirlia's amazing suggestion and replaced "rough" with "ruff". It's not plagiarism if I'm telling everyone I've stolen it! I think...
*ruff
@@clockworkkirlia7475 YES
@@blep7943 Who are you? Houyi?
Sokka?? Zuko?? Is that you guys??
When Red said “Imagine God for me” I immediately thought Morgan Freeman. And then Morgan Freeman showed up on screen.
Red is Psychic, and maybe Jesus.
Bożydar Grabowski same
@Bożydar Grabowski Both Haruhi and South Park refs were great
So what your saying is TFS's interpretation of God in Hellsing ultimate abridged was sorta accurate?
I imagines Alanis Morrissette.
>implying people don’t know about Justinian
Weeps in Byzantine
I felt the same it is okay fellow extra historian
One of the good empires last great emperors...my soul
Plus sign trying to be an "individual" omg so funny
Very confusing
Hagia Sophia and Roman laws don't mean shit fuck outta here fam
Beatrice abandoning Dante sounds harsh until you realise that in reality Dante was a creepy incel who met the woman all of twice, once when she was 8. He never dated her and never even really knew her, but obsessed about her for the rest of his life.
don't do my man like that
@@kurade1096 Never get to know your heroes, they always turn out to be disappointingly human.
Dante was 9 when he met the 8 year old Beatrice so idk why u added that as though that makes him more creepy
Well, yes, of course that would make a lot of sense if Beatrice was a person, but she's the love interest for the Author's self insert in a satire. It's big time Lisa from The Room energy.
Him being 9 when he met her *does* make it more creepy, because who actually is still pining over an elementary/primary school field trip crush decades later? I could see pining after a childhood friend if you never clicked with anyone else, but at best it was two random encounters a decade apart with the same girl. Admittedly, at 18 (his "second" encounter) I could see feeling like they're the "one that got away" as not unreasonable and assuming she shared a name with a girl who changed your life a decade ago a guy from his time might have thought it was fate. Then she dies before the Rule of Three can have them meet a third time a decade after that meeting. Tragic. I mean, she was married, but still.
Y’all are forgetting that this is not an uncommon thing for poets to do. They’ll chose a random crush they used to have and make her their “muse.” It is unlikely that Dante was as head over heels for her as shown in the poem, and is more likely using her as an allegory. True, it’s a weird practice of basically making a muse out of a random girl, but at least Dante never made it too creepy.
Inferno: Dante and Virgil's Excellent Hell-venture
Purgatorio: Dante and Virgil's Bogus Climbing
Paradiso: Dante and Beatrice Face the Heavens
I wonder if there will be remakes in the future
My teacher told me that Dante would faint or fall asleep when there would be something too difficult to explain. Clever
Well, that's the short version...
Actually, it was a relatively common trope/device employed by sci-fi(?) and fantasy(?) writers of that time. They would employ it when the exposition required was either too difficult (as your teacher explained) OR in the case that it was so long or complicated that readers would more likely skip it or rage-quit...
There's a lot of abuse of the thing over the centuries since, too. It's led to a lot more of the "hand-waving" excuse than is necessary to create decent descriptive in a good storyline... SO beware in employing it yourself, because it's easy to slip into the pitfall of "almost had it, but feels flat for lack of work". ;o)
It's kinda lazy though. And it was done way too much in Dante's inferno. :X
accurate
And when you don't want to pull a Lovecraft and describe it as "indescribable".
@@Bidmartinlo It's Very lazy.
My friends always called Dante's stories really bad Christian fan fiction. I laughed it off at the time, thinking "yeah it's probably just a trippy story with massive artistic liberties and theological errors".
I didn't know my friends were being literal.
poissony Well you also aren't wrong. Dante pretty much got most of it wrong, and yet people believe this to be fact. I wonder about humanity these days.
That's because it is a poetry book and not a theological book?
I don't read sci fi books expecting them to teach me physics
Hyperversum though sci fi books do a better job at teaching physics than this does about the religion.
Andres Marrero
No, they really don't.
@@andresmarrero8666 Nope lmao.
"So, the old guy in question is Saint Bernard, who for the purposes of this review will be represented as a dog."
Me: Yee.
Red: This version of heaven follows the 14th century model of the solar system.
Also Red: why are they visiting the planets out of order?! *shows the modern model of the solar system.*
Of course!
Ikr? She even referred to the old model as "Geocentric" without even giving thought to what it means! Thankfully, OSP improved on getting their facts straight.
Justinian was THE GREATEST BYZANTINE EMPEROR EVER RED!!!
Sobs in Extra History
I bet Blue wasn't too happy about that either
We gots ourselves a fellow brotha in our good show.
YAAAAS
Khosrau is better though.
Justinian would be the one really sobbing, as far as he was concerned he was a ROMAN emperor.
"...AND in conclusion, it's dark because... God said so."
ROFL. That was quite funny.
What's ROFL
@@raspberrycrowns9494 rolling on floor laughing
Just made me think of it being said. "Let there be DARK."
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@@DARamosYT I mean, if God was light then it probably was "let there be dark"
Fun fact: the term seraph does refer to snakes, but it specifically means “fiery serpent”. But it’s not talking about a fire-breathing snake. It refers to venomous snakes, with the word “fiery” referring to the burning pain a person experiences after being bitten by a venomous snake.
The funniest thing is, Dante apparently only actually met Beatrice twice in his life (first on a party when he was 9 and second when he was 18 and walked into her in the street). So she must really have been drop-dead gorgeous, if she left such an impression on him, that he immortalised her in his work. So they weren't boy- and girlfriend, he just had a life-long crush on a girl he barely knew. XD
An incel who writes fanfic- this Dante character seems like a real winner.
For my honors class we had to read part of this story, and when I was discussing it with my peers, they were all immensely confused. I looked them dead in the eyes,
“Jesus”
“What”
“Everything is Jesus”
And that is the story on how for the first time I was ever good at symbolism. Any old European literature is just Jesus symbolism..
mm true
Top 10 things that never happened volume 2
You are actually right my friend
Oi! Some of it is pagan symbolism *disguised* as Jesus symbolism!
Which Jesus? The one in the bible, or the condemning jesus that manmade religion create?
1:56 "Dante also hangs out with Emperor Justinian who is...a guy?"
*Extra Credits wants to know your location*
Sentry Will I knew somebody would say this!
Ikr like Justinian got 12 episodes like woah and da thing is they made good episodes like even blue mentions Justinian for goodness sake one of the first fleet ships was called Justinian then again one was called friendship but seriously he’s well known RED!!!
*Screeches in pain*
There you are playing your call of duty
And then all of a sudden
You're a nazi
@@vintheguy lol
I would like to see her make a series summarizing the Bible like this, that would be amazing
Same.. but that would probably piss off the fellas that can’t take a joke
I'm atheist and not very into books but I wanted to read the entire bible out of pure curiosity for some years now for some reason
*so let's bet to see who does it first.... probably her, not gonna lie(?*
@@maucazalv903 as an atheist. Please, please go and read it. Nothing is more satisfying when your Christian family says that “the only reason you’re atheist is because you haven’t read the Bible” right before you drop a banger of a verse on them. My personal favorite is “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.” Then proceeding into a rant about how if the Bible has so many inaccuracies, then you guys could have always made up new bullshit to make it work, and you never did.
@@supreme_king_obama1158 Inaccuracies? Not if you keep it in Latin, or the original Greek and Hebrew also my favorite verse is Matthew 25:31-46. Also, the Bible itself deposits supreme authority in the Church Matthew 16:18-19, 1 Timothy 3:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:14-15 etc.
The reason you probably became an atheist was due to your disillusionment from a Sola scriptura heretical shithole due to their lack of tradition and being mind-numbingly soft.
Though, I would not put it beyond you to have never read more than Mark. Scripture is not meant to be the end all be all. It was built off of the Church and finally finished being compiled in the late 4th century.
@@deutschecheems9241 Imagine being this delusional
9:27 in to the episode "...and this is where it starts to get weird..."
Doctor Strange: "They really should put the warnings before the spells."
I'm pretty sure that everytime Beatrice becomes more beautiful, she is drawn to look more like red, I swear this was done on purpose
"if Dante can praise himself and his loved ones for 3 entire books I'm doing the same" xd
to be fair red is pretty
Absolutely and justifiably because red is pretty.
Was Dante actually tripping balls while writing this trilogy?
Turi Caederynmab Its possible XD
Most likely
Nah he was just Roman or something.
He was going through his moody teenager phase where everything has to be _Symbolic_ (tm)
Turi Caederynmab maybe he saved up some of that river water! Get it? Cause the river water made him trippy? No? Okay...
What I like about all this is that most of this is totally fanfic, except for the cherubs and the eyeball wheels, which are both totally described in the Bible
That eyeball wheel is just a kirby final boss
Red: There was alot of Light in that sentence
Me: That's because Darkness was taken by Kingdom Hearts
Darkness? Ansem? Xehanort? Psycho Mantis?
@@baronvonbeandip Lalatina?
Your casual disregard of the Emperor of the Byzantine Empire: Justinian the Great burns at my very core
Why?
@@SaphireKancer90 the single man who came so close to reuniting the entire roman empire.
@@AimlessSavant not really
@@moonbasebop3699 If we're talking about the same Justinian, he came pretty close relatively speaking. He reclaimed Italy and some African provinces, that's more than anyone else ever managed.
@@timothymcleanJustinian I claimed these lands for only short times, losing them again and again to Western European resistance. Also, at what cost to his empire? He had to steal the livelihoods of his own soldiers and expend much of the Byzantines' wealth. This made him unpopular, almost leading to his deposition. If anything, he should be renowned for the Corpus Iuris Civilis and the construction of the Hagia Sophia. Who did more than him when reconquering the Roman Empire was the Muslim and Turkish empires that would later claim most of the Mediterranean.
Hey, if they did hook up, it would've been a match made in heaven.
I'll see myself out.
@1tiercel Not really. The real Beatrice married a banker and met Dante only on two occasions, but he was so fascinated by her that he made her a major character in his trillogy.
@Siper Yes, dante's hole trilogy is a fanfiction with a self-insert protagonist
「MADE IN HEAVEN」
Red: "Justinian? Never heard of him! It's sad that we don't remember all these cameos. Sands of time, yada yada~"
Blue: *VIOLENT HEAD-DESK NOISES*
The fun thing about the seraphim being "the burning ones" and seraph being "a snake" is that some linguists think the seraphim look like/are dragons, because "giant snake with FIRE!!!"
So what you’re saying is that _FUCKING SKYRIM_ is actually biblically accurate.
@@Xalerdane It may actually just be as simple as "because snake bites burn"
@@Xalerdane Godd Howard strikes again.
and dont get me started on one piece
God...
@@Xalerdane Skyrim less so, but Morrowind was written by a college student who studied religions and Christian theology specifically. Now rethink why Peryite is said to rule over natural order while being an ugly, emaciated dragon... much like Satan, while Akatosh and Alduin are essentially functioning as Jesus and God's reset button respectively. You can pretty much map most things to Christianity or adjacent theological bits once you pick it up.
So go re-read the Sermons of Vivec, keeping Hindu myths and Christianity close to reference, see how much of the madness you realize is a very different flavor of madness than just "what was he on".
(also notice that Nerevar, who Vivec, Almalexia and Dagoth Ur are all obsessed with, as mortal gods, is CHOCK FULL of hints that he's mythically important: he carries the "ghartoki" -- which is in-context the rune for the hand of God, the _weapon_ of God, and the action of striking someone down... and he has one in each hand. I actually spent enough time chewing on Ehlnofex to break down Nerevar's name as being a Significant name as of the Morrowind lore era: you can break him down into Ne (not) Re (light, as in Reman, Light [of] man), Var (mouth, the action of casting a spell) Mora (forest, forbidden knowledge, chaos). In other words, he's literally named "I am not the Morningstar". In context, that makes him an expy of Archangel Michael.)
(Michael Kirkbride was on LSD and a mental breakdown from his exams period and a thesis due next week, but given how close that is to religious half-starved sleep deprived fever dreams like Revelations, close enough to scripture to be negligible impact.)
Some of the angel descriptions make the angel designs in Bayonetta make so much more sense.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
And these aren't even the stange angels, like the ones guarding Eden that one is just a 3 faced head that shoots fire from it's eyes, which are just everywhere on this head, oh it also may be made of fire and screams in the language of angels, the other is just a 6 armed 3 headed giant wielding giant flaming swords and wings for days with eyes on his swords and all over its body and wings, when its swords touch the ground it causes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, oh and looking at it will drive any man insane and depending on how faithful, may just burn your soul into nothing
@@HovektheArtist So looking at that abomination has a likelihood of actually living skid marks on your soul?
Oh my God, the Pole Position narrator was that six-armed three-headed giant!
@@DigitalDaydreams so are these descriptions from revelation? I looked up the canto and couldn't find a description of the thrones as multi-eyed wheels at all.
@@onelife5075 What Dante calls the Thrones are actually called Ophanim. They're in the Old Testament/Torah.
"Are you telling me God is a reading rainbow?" - Red, 2015. Even though its now 2017...damn. I'm late.
Lolli-poppy same
Same here
Lolli-poppy still just as funny
I had to stop for a few minutes because I was laughing too much. I wish I had to do a book report on this (which would be ironically hell) just to add that joke at the end. Worth it!
2018 for me
"The Old Guy in question is Saint Bernard - who for the purposes of this review will be represented as a dog."
I actually rolled on the floor laughing at this until after the video had ended and I had to go back.
That moment when some Italian guy eats moldy bread trips out and writes a book that some people actually take seriously
(Serious) Was it ever confirmed that Dante had to deal with ergot poisoning in his life, or do you just think that is the most logical conclusion?
@@andrewames247 ergot poisoning was extremely common due to the preparation methods used at the time. So yeah based on logic I wouldn't be surprised if he had a bad trip once and though it was inspirational then proceeded to write the greatest fan fict shit post of all time.
To be fair, if you ignore the occasional political rants, it's a pretty imaginative idea into how Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory function.
"Are you telling me God is a Reading Rainbow?"
ROFLMAO for 1hr.
That was great!
jagirl966 by far one of the funniest videos I have watched in a while.
In conclusion: Dante was definitely high when he wrote this
No I wasn't
William Jenkinson without a doubt.
Smoketh thine weed everyday.
You're taking this too literally. It's overly sarcastic.
I think he used imagination,is his own story after all and he use feelings to do that 😉😑
"My childhood just got so much more theologically significant" is being added to the growing list of the best OSP lines
I still think it's really funny that while most people, even in the modern day they don't portray god as anything because it gets religious flack. but no. Dante said "it's straight up a book"
WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE LIKE MILLIONS OF SUBSCRIBERS
ikr.
poor advertisement... i guarantee it.
It is definitely a mystery
yeah ikr
Callie Meyer IKR???
Justinian was probably the best emperor the Byzantines ever had. Almost all laws in the modern day are modeled after the law code he implemented, he built the Hagia Sophia, he and his wife massively advanced the rights of women in his empire, and even managed to lead the byzantines through massive riots, Persian invasions, and he even survived the black death. Extra Credits has an excellent series about him and his wife, Theodora, who was also awesome.
James O'Dell perfect point, honestly was probably the most important Roman Emperor ever as helped Italy become city states instead of barbarian, helped massively for the prestige of the eastern Roman Empire and he certainly left the empire in amazing growth and expansion but was simply not taken up well enough from his successors
Wait wait WAIT, you're telling us... Emperor Justinian survived the Black Death!?
#😎ThugLife
Shane Love His uncle was pretty dope too. This nigga was a peasant living in the country side. He goes to Constantinople, and works his way up to head of the Royal guard. Sends his nephew Justinian to school to prep him on being Emperor. Becomes Emperor in his later years and leaves it all to Justinian.
James O'Dell Yay. Another extra history fan
Extra history is great with the illustration of the nike nike nike rebellion and oda nobunagas arch enemies worrior monks with guns.
I feel so sad for the Moon. She looks so sad when they left ;-;
Lucas Augusto that’s rough buddy
SpaceTime Worm my first girlfriend turned into the moon
That's rough buddy ...
“Ten year olds hopped up on pixie sticks”
That cracked me the hell up😂😂😂😂
Virgil must be so relived he did not have to go through all that with Dante, probably chilling in Hell with a book going "Welp, he's Beatrice's problem now."
Well after dante got dropped off back in the woods with the she wolf who might or might or might not have been beatrice he finds out his senpai vergil gets to go to heaven and chill with beatrice for going through the trouble of escorting him, so the whole thing could have also been a way for dante to hook vergil up with his dead gf
Which given that Beatrice was the one that sent Virgil in the first place to give that guided tour does that mean this is kinda a complicated plot to seduce Virgil and post-mortally cheat on Dante?
@@TheRealPentigan Can’t cheat on someone who wasn’t ever in a relationship with you.
Seriously, RL Beatrice was someone Dante met _once_ as a child and never stopped obsessing over.
So the moral of the story is, if you don't circumsize and babtize your kids, they'll totally burn in hell. Thanks for clarifying that, Dante.
Poirot's Mustache to be somewhat fair they don't "burn in Hell" they're in Limbo which is essentially a big garden where everyone just sits around sighing and brooding.
Do we at least get Dark Souls?
Don't worry, you are a dark soul
That concept was purely Catholic though.
also dante wasn't even circumsised
Red barely recognizing Justinian probably gave Blue an aneurysm
I know, right? I watched Blue's video on the Byzantine Empire just before this one.
8:38
Oh my gosh, this means that Aziraphale is a higher ranked angel than Gabriel. That's hilarious.
Archangel is sometimes used to refer to the 7 greatest Seraphim, of which one is Gabriel. Because as Red brings up in the video, terminology in Christianity is inconsistent.
We basically have two sets of archangels: the "slightly above regular angels" and the seven big Seraphim, who are also referred to by this name. So we got the archangels and THE Archangels *guitar riff*
@@d.tsukuyomi1869 Which fanfic is that from, then? Scripture certainly doesn't say anything to that effect.
@@hypoaktivnaovca Depends. Some man categorized the Hiearchy for Angels, but most Christian Do times agree the Archangels (the Seraphs) are one of the highest positions.
Depending on which branch, there are ranging from 4 too more, examples are Uriel, Raphael, Michael, Gabriel, etc.
You can check the Apocrypha or just the Prophets Section of the Old Testement in the Bible, where they talk about angels.
It gets whole lotta confusing, since the Jewish system for Angels are completely different than this one.
@@calebkim5321 This is catholic canon so the Seraphim are not Archangels (That's Jewish) as Seraphiel and Metatron are the Seraph Archangels while michael is considered a seraph he's normally just called "Archangel". The others have not really been called Seraphim. Metatron is the record keeper and Seraphiel leads the Seraphim in praising god in music and chant. There are many Seraphim, only a couple are Archangels. The hierarchy is more about how close they are to god and what they do. the Seven archangels are considered the highest of all angels as they surround god during the end of days or whatever but their acting in the world makes them one of the "Earthly" angels.
Why is Dante's Inferno the most known part of this story again?
Purgatory and Paradiso were equally as intresting if you ask me!
Probably because Pugatorio and Paradiso have kinda been debunked as Dante depicted them, while Inferno is still technically valid.
Far too trippy for people in general, I guess
The writing stile changes, metaphors get harder and more comlpicated as purgatory and heaven go on. The very last chant of Heaven is a fucking metaphor, its really cool as poetry, but hard to understand. hell is much more straightforward.
I think also the video game may have some impact on this. Even if based on these three videos about the source material wasn't all that accurate but still a fun game.
Several reasons. First, its the first part. Second, we are naturally attracted to the sin and its punishment in a vicarious way. "Look at this sinner and his deserved punishment." Third, as Dante continues his journey his language becomes more elevated, and the subjects become more abstract. In Paradiso, Dante is having full theological discussions where as in Inferno the residents are incapable of having such discussions.
I can just imagine Dante putting more and more pairs of sunglasses on as he travels through heaven
Your profile pic of Mammon is the accurate representation of your comment
@@SSMp315 lol
0:45
Scrooge: The Moon's not a planet!
Della: Yeah, it's a whole thing with them
"Omg my childhood just got way more theologically significant"
God “I made humans in my imagine”
God according to Dante “THREEEEEEE CIRCLES MOTHERFUCKERS”
Ray he coulda changed form after humanity kept disappointing him
I thought "in my image" means in His imagination? Idk im not Christian sumone explain
Rumble Lane I’ve always heard it as “I modeled humans after myself”
I heard somewhere that it might mean that man has free will, but I don't really understand it.
Psychic Sandshrew but man didn’t have free will before the whole apple thing right?
Extra History got everyone mad at Red for insulting Justinian.
Hahahahaha
He tried his best he deserves this at least
Feels bad
Who
Mm true
“Is God a reading rainbow?!”
Me: dies of happiness and nostalgia
Butterfly in the sky, I can climb twice as high!
Random Guy: Doctor! I think I might be God!
Doctor: How can you tell
Random Guy: *R A I N B O W S*
Doctor: No, you're just gay.
I can't stop laughing at the St Bernard joke 😂
xereeto same
Yeah
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Reading Rainbooooooow!!!
10:15 maybe Mr Rogers took up that seat
I would not be surprised
So, my takeaway from this was that Dante's epic three-part self-insert fic was written on LSD and/or illustrated by Hideaki Anno circa "The End of Evangelion".
Ha
I understand the reference so it is humorous to me
Emperor Justinian was actually pretty awesome. Extra History did a series on him.
JustinDL97 No they did one Justininan the 2
Kaleb Kelley Still the same guy
naww the Justinian you're thinking of was pretty useless. Not only did he all but fail to keep constantinople in tact..he destroyed rome through his delusionial idea of restoring the empire..without understanding the world around him (makes sense since he never left his palace in constantinople) On top of this he had a terrible habit of starting wars he could not finish in the surrounding regions around the balkans and middle east which led to big, big problems down the road..on top of this he purged the greek world of it's schools and philosophy is favor of churches..which bring up another issue of basically all of the byzantine treasury going towards churches instead of infrastructure leading the the cities to become chronically run down. In otherwords Justinian was by no means awesome..he just made enough of a point to ensure his name was written down as to seal a spot in history.
LAWWWWWYYYERRRRRS
Andrew Catherwood Eversun You're thinking of Justinian the second, the successor to Constantine the IV. JustinDL97 was talking about Justinian the first. Justinian the second is barely remembered in history, but Justinian the first, the one mentioned in the video, was fairly successful and for that reason, earned the title of Justinian the Great.
i actually like the idead of god not being an human or humanoid being. "he's suposed to be eternal, be everywhere at the same time, and when u had a human face we can't stop to think of him as a human or human like"
Hades But in Genesis, God says he made man in his image. Dante was probably just going for some idiotic eldritch theme to make it more exciting because he was Catholic.
Lightning Warrior935 even as a child I interpreted that as a loose definition of image, i.e. a higher dimensional ethereal being consider his image, most likely sentience.
Although it is a quite literal definition if you view time as a spatial dimension
Hades I thought God was something super majestic like a llama or a butterfly
Its God we are talking about,he could appear as one should he please
Hades But why a book though
The constant assault on Dante's retina was so freaking funny. Like when the Empyrean is just pure light and it melts into his face and he just smiles because why not my eyes are so long done for who even cares
*when you know Justinian from the Extra History series*
"yeah, it's big brain time!"
This feels like the ultimate fan-fiction.
Tomsk Bromley It is since so many people basically takes it as canon
Journey to the west, is also a fanfiction, complete with the gods of Taoist, Shinto, and Buddhism as well as an overpowered character.
More like the ultimate drugs odysey (get it?)
That is EXACTLY what it is.
@@iwannaseehowlongyoucanmakethis Journey to The West is a massively cultural appropriate, well written series. This is just some Italian who is WAAAAAAY too Christian and hated the Greeks
I've never seen a Haruhi, Southpark, and Morgan Freeman reference in the same frame.
emlmm88 where?
EA Gjevre in the "imagine what god looks like" part
Ike Birchum I think it more helpful to tell him the specific time marker in the vid, I'd do it but I'm to lazy
11:09
I imagined nothing because that’s what god is!!
"The Moon isn't a planet."
Lunaris: "so I took that personally."
I'd be hard-pressed to name another series that I've enjoyed so much on UA-cam. It took me a little over an hour to watch your inferno, purgatorio, and paradiso videos because I kept pausing to commit the storyline to memory and to tell my wife about it! 10/10, great stuff
8:37 for Good Omens fans, that’s the angel rank that Aziraphale is- it’s mentioned as a brief irrelevant detail in both the book and tv show.
Yeah, and according to this, he'd technically be higher up than the Archangels, right?
So Ha!
@@peytonbeaumont354 That said, his symbol of rank was... misplaced.
@@peytonbeaumont354 The Bible, and Christian mythology is weird. There is "archangels", the second tier of angel. And then there is "Archangels", the 7 greatest Seraphim. Of which Gabriel is one of them.
He’s a principality cause he’s king and he deserves it
Let me guess, he is the ruler of awkward people who like books or something similar.
REALLY weird when you turned Saint Bernard into a dog for a joke. Mainly because equating saints and specifically God to dogs is a pretty popular form of Blasphemy in Italian colloquialism. The More You Know...
I'm surprised it isn't common in English to be honest. It's a massive lost opportunity! Dog is even God backwards!
But he's so cute❣️
@@cammarc It weirds me out more that we pick Dogs of all things. Equating anything to a dog should be praise of the highest order.
I always thought God should be a cat. Much more appropriate.
How weird. Cool fact, many thanks!
2:50 The Divine Comedy was written when people still thought everything orbited Earth, not the Sun. That's why the path is moon>mercury>venus>sun>etc
Dante when his girlfriend disappears:
Dante when Vergil disappears: uncontrollable sobbing
*some 5th century byzantine emperor I guess*
Looks like Virgil isn't the only one with a Greek bias >:(
He was roman tho : (
@@heroofcadia5211 that's subjective, he's from the Byzantine (AKA east roman) empire, but by then the empire was very greek, so he was either/both Greek and Roman, depending how you look at it.
@@goombanr3411 True, although the empire back then was still quite large and had a lot more ethnicities, not just Greeks, so there is an argument to be made. And considering he reconquered Rome, there is litte doubt I think that they still considered themselves roman (in the sense of nationality, not ethnicity). Also IMO a lot of what is considered Greek as a nationality is a broad label made in a nice effort of historical revisionism during the days of the Ottoman empire.Alas, much like Dante and Red, I also have a Greek bias, being Bulgarian (Not to say that we did not have historical revisionism during the waking of our national identity in the Ottoman Empire).
Goomba nr34 But Justinian was Illyrian of sorts. Meaning he didn’t speak greek or at least not well, with his Latin being in the fore.
The light river is drugs but not just any drugs but HOLY DRUGS
So God created drugs... Yay?
3:37 "And here is where it gets weird" no, that was two videos earlier.
I so much love your historical-accurate stories :D
So...
God is three circles, one of which is JESUS CIRCLE, and inside there's rainbows and a magic love book
... wow no wonder you're not allowed to draw him, imagine how weird all those fancy paintings would be
IH N Wow, thanks to you the Sistine Chapel ceiling just got weirder in my head
Actually because nobody is allowed to see him directly because they wouldn't survive. Moses never got a direct look and he ended up glowing and wearing a veil. Though you think someone would painted Jesus. Though why they voted for him to be kill vs the actual criminal is beyond me. Even if they didn't believe in him I think I would vote for the guy with healing power with all the things that doctors can't help you with.
@@n_crowe doctors are too proud to admit that they aren't god. That's too much to ask.
@@theresahall6197 because it was prophesied He would be killed by everyone, PLUS (looking at it from a non religious perspective), He did the equivalent of going into a modern day Muslim town in Pakistan and saying "everything you know is wrong"
The book thing becomes slightly more impressive when your remember that books and literacy were far rarer and more valuable in Dante's lifetime.
I feel like the divine comedy would make a great actual comedy with Seth Rogan as Dante and Chris Pratt as Vergil.
Switch them around
I vote Tessa Thompson as Beatrice
Jon B okay, but why not have Ron Swanson in there as Virgil and Chris Pratt as Dante? That way you avoid the horror of seeing Seth Rogen without James Franco.
Will Rogers James Franco would be an amazing Virgil
Ah dude, and they meet people like jacky Gleason and Chris Farley and Seth rogans talent
Not sure if you’ll see this, but I really really enjoy this video. The combination of your humorous interpretation of Heaven mixed with your really atmospheric, starry art makes this a fun watch. I like this a lot :)
I appreciate y'alls work.
Did you just dis my boy Justinian
Take a shot every time red says light or weird
Golden Heart You will end up seeing a book surrounded by rainbows
Alcohol poisoning.
do you mean I'll meet God and a bunch of saints and angels sitting on a flower?
Alcohol poisoning much?
You'll end up in a state similar to the one Dante was in when writing the Paradiso
You bring quality content i love all your work so much
Thanks you're amazing in summarizing this crazy stuff in a fun and understandable way, I tried to read the Divine Comedy in JR High and got a splitting headage after 30 minutes xD
Ok. Justinian is actually very interesting, but his wife, Theodora, was a brilliant badass. Seriously, look her up.
NIKA NIKA NIKA
They both were super cool and badass? Like the law codes justinian made are the basis for modern law, he reconquered like most of the fallen western empire, and was the last truly great roman emperor
Ikr i was like " whoa whoa NO CARES ABOUT JUSTINIAN??"
Alix DiViant well if Internet comments have taught me anything it's that all historical people are terrible, did nothing and everything we know about them was wrong
Or just watch Extra Credits series on him
God is a circle full of book and rainbows. Congratulations, you just solved my existential crisis.
Its actually interesting, the path that dante took through heaven is like the path up the kabbalah tree of life, the first sephiroth above earth(malkuth) leads to the moon (yesod), mercury (hod) , sun (tipheroth), mars (geburah) , jupiter (chesed) , saturn (binah) , it looks like dante might have been inspired by kabbalah of some type
The cosmological model pre-Copernicus was based on apparent times to orbit Earth, so no influence was necessary.
2:20 Nor do they RAIN SHARDS OF MOLTEN GLASS SIDEWAYS. Seriously, never visit Venus.
"God is a circle full of books and rainbows" That's, that's amazing
Ace the Protector wait, wait...wait one sec....are you telling me God is a Reading Rainbow?
Ace the Protector not books, only one book being the Bible
*Reading Rainbow theme plays*
So... Late to the party, but a few points. First, chill out people, Eve Is there. She's sitting in the Rose, and her leaf is right under Mary's. Second, the best translation I know is the one by Dorothy L. Sayers, it's highly readable and her notes are fantastic. Third, Beatrice is ALSO Jesus.
@ddam1320 Well like Adam said to Dante, God forgave them since they didn't "sin" and instead just broke the rules of Eden
What. The. Fuck
Dante had one hell of an Ego
He literally wrote that his girlfriend was the J-man
@@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 Well, Biblically speaking the J-man is everyone's girlfriend, or rather fiance, so it's not that much of a stretch.
@@danbarber6669 really o.o
😅😅 i'm curious do explain please
Dante had a man crush
I know this video was five years ago but I just to say as a Catholic myself even with the changes this mythology I love all three parts of each, and just want to thank for your awesome story telling
“That baby thing you thought of is actually called putto.”
Laughs in chileno
Me laughing in Portuguese
Her : Justinian
Extra history : did someone say emperor Justinian?
"the better something is, the bigger it is" beatrix
Beatrice
Such a size queen that one!
That's what she says to all the guys she meets
Dick jokes...
10 minutes in and Dante drank shiny river water that made him see a levitating rose and all this other trippy stuff?
Are we certain Paradiso wasn’t like…a really bad acid trip? This sounds like a mother load of LSD? Anybody?
O S P Lady, you are awesome, thank you for making these.