In fairness to Dante, “courtly love” was all the rage at the time. If you showed up to joust at some 14th century tournament *without* an unobtainable lady-love to dedicate your deeds to, the other knights would be like “Doust thou even chivalry, brother?”
honestly massive shoutout to fitzgerald for managing to literally marry his unobtainable courtly mistress and still somehow spend his life pining for her
Fun fact: while you can definitely consider Dante's love for Beatrice as "courtly love", it is more correct to say that it's an evolution of that, called "dolce stil novo". Like the courtly love, the dolce stil novo is about an impossible love, however it's a platonic love that has the sole purpose of getting the lover closer to god. The woman is considered a sort of angel so loving her is a true religious act
Wow! That's not a commonly told story for most of the kids on the internet. I'm impressed. And I would have to agree. Funny thing is that guy ended up having a very long life.
Tolkien: I re-invented and revitalized the fantasy genre, humans, elves, dwarves, ogres, orcs, and dragons. Dante: Oh yeah? *Turns his red cap backward on his head and leans with arms folded* I practically reinvented the Christian Afterlife.
Fun fact: Not only Dante was married, his wife was part of the Donati family, which led the Black Guelphs. And Dante somehow had a fairly good relationship with some members of her family, in spite of their role in the exiling him. The two of them also had children, two of which helped him write the Commedy, and became among the first to write a Commentaries explaining it. Altough at one point in the Paradise, not even they know what their father was actually ranting about.
Philosophy is a girl because yet a that point in history Italian gives gender even to objects and abstract ideas, mostly on the basis of the final vowel. The Italian word for philosophy happened to be "filosofia", ending with an A, so in our language philosophy is a feminine word.
I must say, I freaked out when he said Beatrice. I read Lemony Snicket as a kid, and still read them sometimes, and only watching this video did I realize that Snicket dedicating each book to and mourning over a dead Beatrice throughout is a clear reference and connection to Dante. Cool!
What kind of SI are you talking about? Dante had himself go through what is essentially unexplored territory of canon. That's like writing an MLP fanfic that isn't situated in Equestria.
Well, he wrote down why he called it that. Keep in mind that at the time knowledge of Greek was still spotty in Italy and he called it "Commedia" just to say it's a "reverse tragedy" as in: a tragedy starts chill and then everything goes downhill while his poem started in hell and climbed back to paradise.
Comedy used to mean 'just about any story with a happy ending'. The Divine Comedy ends with Dante meeting God and finding out that he's chill. That's a pretty happy ending I would say.
Dude... Imagine you die, and later in the afterlife, you realise some creep wrote three-books worthy of fanfic about their "'relationship'" with them? Yikes... Poor Beatrice, man.
Google the definition of “courtly love.” It will make a lot more sense. The whole thing was very much within the social norms of the time. The whole point was she was distant and unobtainable, thus his “love” was chaste and pure. But by modern standards, yeah it’s creepy.
Also, I've heard from historians that Beatrice and Dante did exchange letters for a period, even if they seldom saw each other. Didn't they...? Blue didn't mention anything of the sort so now I'm a bit confused.
I study Italian Literature at University, so, since you hate him less after knowing about his life, you are about to know another fun fact about it: People usually tend to confuse "Dante Character" with "Dante Person" and since the first one allways passes away they think that the second one also was some sort of crying b*tch. In reality, after being exiled from Florence he spent his life running arround Italy not because he didn't want to stay put in one place, but because he was such the mad lad he got exailed from allmost every city he entered
Not only did Dante's writings make Italian the dominant literary language of Europe, it led to the Tuscan dialect becoming the dominant form of Italian - modern Italian is basically Tuscan.
I’m so happy for this! Dante became one of my favorite authors of all time after listening to the fantastic Ancient World podcast which did a line-by-line study of the Divine Comedy. His idea of increasingly beautiful reflections of divinity really shaped my understanding of the world. Particularly the section in Paradiso about the Moon.
There is a school of thought that My Immortal was a parody of the common fanfics and tropes of the time. The works being parodied, alas, have been lost to the tides of the early internet.
Oh, that's a fearsom thought. To imagine that something like all those Y/N works in wattpad could be one day be used by future generations to study the culture and society of today. (°-°)
Hi, italian literature student from Bologna here. I only wanted to say thank you for this video. It really made me remember why the "Divina Commedia" (fun fact: called "Divina" only after Boccaccio read it for the people in 1350) is one of the finest pieces of literature in the world history.
An inspirational guy, to be sure. After all, if this guy can walk through hell and make it out alive then surely I can make it through my Economics final
I would say, "Yeah, but he was a bit of a mary sue." However, as Blue pointed out, Dante was a bit of a jerk in Hell and only started cleaning up his act in Purgatory.
this isn't super related but whatever. I saw this meme of a paper somewhere that said "if internet Explorer is brave enough to ask to be your default browser, you can ask that girl out."
Being real here. Blue and Red you are both treasures, you have renewed my interest in the subjects of history and myth, and you have made me more reassured than ever that i can succeed in my pursuit of writing. thank you both and please never change.
Sometimes i forget that this channel was started by two young adults in college, and its grown into a brand with two friends who work very well together ❤️❤️❤️ I LOVE OSP
Dante knew what was up, providing scathing commentary on politics, religion, and society long before the Internet was even a thing. And of course, both Virgil and he have their names immortalized as one of the greatest pairs of siblings in video game history, but you only really get the literary legacy connection when you consider V reading William Blake's poetry in Devil May Cry 5. Blake took inspiration from Milton, who in turn took inspiration from Dante, for the religious subtext and overt references in their bodies of work; I learned about this 'literary bloodline' when reading "Inferno" for fun, and "Paradise Lost" and Songs of Innocence and Experience for classes, when I was in college. Great job Blue. The long awaited historical context to Red's coverage of Dante's Divine Comedy is finally here.
Dante is such a relatable poet because he feels like an angry Millennial transposed into Italy centuries before Millennials existed. Politically active, angry and tired as fuck, fed up with the political system in which they grew up, angry relationship with a person they only kinda now, obsessed with remixing the stories he loved as a kid with his own OCs and headcanons...he'd fit right in on Tumblr and/or AO3.
Dante basically laid the foundations for the Italian language, then Alessandro Manzoni picked up his idea and wrote "I Promessi Sposi" to finish building it. Only took him 20 years to write it.
In Italy, we're required to study Dante and to read the Divina Commedia (and his other works) in high school. Back then it seemed like a useless torture, but looking back it's a wonderful thing and I'm really happy they made us do that. These videos are wonderful my friend. Thanks for sharing these things with the world!
2:11 a little nitpicky thing to point out, but actually the name of the factions are written as "guelfi" instead of "guelphi". Every other bit of the video is spot on and sincere congratulations to you, because that's the best italian pronunciation I've heard from a foreigner.
goddamnit blue, how dare you make me actually respect dante (since i love the fact that the divine comedy was a self-insert fanfic) still, great video, love your content!
I literally just finished watching the video for Paradiso for the millionth time when I saw that Dante video and went "huh, I didn't know Blue also talked about Dante! I wonder how long I've been sleeping on that" and then found out that it was posted 25 minutes ago Great timing!
I have never thought of "Divine Comedy" in terms of it's literary importance, but it really is incredible. I am no expert, so very likely I'm missing a lot of other works, but it would seem "Divine Comedy" is one of the first, if not the first, pieces of literature that place its story in an entirely fantastical setting, since all of the previous important epics, poems etc. simply contain their story within the mundane world, with maybe some divine intervention here and there to spice it up a little.
This has helped my elementary school kids SO MUCH as they've started studying Dante this week here in Italy. Puts it in context and makes us all chuckle. Thank you!!! We will check out your other videos, too!
... You _do_ know that 'elementary school' means ages 4 to 10 in English, right? That seems a bit young to be reading something as long and old as the _Divine Comedy._ Like, we don't force our kids to read Shakespeare until they're at least 13.
Yes, I am Canadian, fully aware of what elementary school age is… don’t worry :) strangely, Italian school systems do start reading Dante in grade 4 and 5… that’s why I was so happy to find this video to help them (and also me, tbh) understand it in a different way.
As an aside: my daughter’s teacher was great tho, she said, see, we have slowly read this big part of Dante and understood it, now you know that you should not be afraid of approaching “big” works of art! Not sure how my second kids teacher is gonna approach reading it this year but hopefully in a nice, accessible way.
Thank you, Blue for making this video, I wanted to learn more about Dante & you & Red are the best at explaining history & literature in a clear & concise manner
1321 - 2021 700 years since Dante's death. In Italy 2021 is called "anno dantesco", there are several events dedicated to Dante this year. Just to understand how immense was and is his work for western culture is always good to remember that he wrote the Commedy centuries before the invention of the printing and still influenced people from all social classes all over the continent.
i'm italian and i just started studying classic italian literature (i'm in my third year of "adult" high school); it's been pretty hard to grasp the enormous footprint that dante left on basically all aspects of italian culture, politics and history, so this was really helpfull!! dante also wrote the "monarchia", which really encompasses his growing distaste for the pope and his dominium. he basically arguments that the only way the world can exist in peace and prosperity is by having a super-powerful emperor (actually, prince) as the sole holder of power. yeah he's all or nothing. just wanted to thank you for this video :)))
Jacabo Alighieri: Mama, I have a question. Gemma Donati: Yes, my son? Jacabo: So I just heard father's epic poem, the Divine Comedy- Gemma: No, my first name is not Beatrice. Your father knew her as a child. No I am not bitter about her being his divine love instead of me. You know, the one that bore his children.
as someone who has studied dante for yeaars i wanna add, for your hypothetical pleasure, that dante WAS offered to come back to Florence, but only IF he confessed to the "crimes" the guelfi neri invented to get him exiled in the first place: as you may immagine after this whole video, dante strongly refused the offer multiple times also, nobody cares, but the meetings with the love of his life were strategically put at symbolic dates as a metaphor for beatrice's perfectness! the guy planned it all
Worldbuilding, self-insert OC, crossover, with his own waifu based on an abstract concept. If only there was an internet back then to award this mad lad.
That statue of him in the preview image really captured his essence. I mean, that is a look that says "Oh yeah? Well, I'm writing you into my afterlife fan-fiction, and I'm gonna have demons torment you in hell!".
Blue: this is the pre lecture that no one listens to. This is the quality content we're bringing here! Me, content this is not a monotone professor and has visual aids on top of it: insert Thor ragnorok YEEESSSS!
Oh man, you guys, try again. You're missing so much... St. Dominic and St. Francis singing each other's praises in the Heaven of Saturn... All the great warriors forming a screaming eagle and speaking with many voices but a single voice in the Heaven of Neptune... the field of flowers with the glittering bees...
One of my Nonno's best friends loves Dante. I learnt through him all the pieces of the literature and the framework of the Dante's life. Thanks for condensing it down to help me understand it.
Really cool video! There are only 2 little details I would like to point out. First of all it is true that the Comedy is a journey that talks about exile but it's also much more than that; I was taught in school that the Divine Comedy is full of deeper meanings about religion, ethics, and politics, in fact it can be interpreted in as much as four different ways. The second point I wanted to address is just that the last canto of the Inferno is considered to be the 33rd, as the first of the whole Commedia isn't considered part of the journey in hell (but I could definitely be wrong on this). Amazing video by the way!
I've been unexpectedly fixated on this dude and the Divine Comedy lately, and it's the first time I've ever really gotten interested a piece of classic literature or a historical figure. I think part of my Dante appreciation comes from the fact that he's someone whose life changed really dramatically from how he expected it to be. He could've had a career in Florence's politics, but then fate had other plans and he wouldn't be legally allowed in the city until ~700 years after his death. I've never experienced a change in my life even close to that size, but when I first went to college in 2021, I learned some things about myself that changed my perception of who I am in a big way and made the future seem much more difficult and painful. I can understand the mindset this author may have been in, which is kind of amazing given how different the way he, a deeply religious man from Italy in the late 13th to early 14th century saw his world from how, an atheist woman in America in the new 20s, see mine.
I always interpreted The Inferno as an allegory for redeeming yourself for past sins. Being lost in the wilderness off the narrow beaten path. I understand that might be better suited for The Purgatory but this idea helped me at a time when I was younger in highschool, for the sake of being a better person (and being worthy of girl no less XD). I identified alot with Dante. "The girl" thing didnt really work out but, I learned about self love too, so hay I may have 1 up on Dante :)!
Ravioli ravioli give me them Italian stories It’s nice to hear Blue, I’m always hearing Red talk about chaos, hearing Blue calmly talk about historical chaos is a nice change of pace
As an avid viewer of your content, I think it would be absolutely amazing if you two covered what life was like in Medieval Russia and the literature that came from it
Wow. It's not just a self insert fanfiction, it's a self insert crossover fanfiction.
Well now!!!!
AND THIS SELF INSERT FANFICTION HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED INTO A VIDEO GAME AND ANIMATED MOVIE!!!!!!
Self insert crossover fanfiction that also started worldbuilding
@@jonathangoh7508 WORD!!!!
omg, legendary fan 😍
Dante: History's first popular fanfic writer.
Now that's a legacy.
That would be Virgil actually. Aeneid is pretty much Odyssey 1.5
Gift fanfiction
@@hemidas I would say The Aeneid is more "History's first copyright infringement"
@@skyler6987 So fanfiction that he sold....
Gilgamesh
Dante was hating on the government and writing fanfic before it was cool. He truly was the original hipster.
Awesome
He even got the beanie
Check out Ovid
And a simp aparently
@Vinnie P probably if we’re honest XD. That’s why I love Dante.
In fairness to Dante, “courtly love” was all the rage at the time. If you showed up to joust at some 14th century tournament *without* an unobtainable lady-love to dedicate your deeds to, the other knights would be like “Doust thou even chivalry, brother?”
I was wondering if this was about that time! I seem to recall Morded showing up in Red's summary... I should really just read these, huh.
Not to mention a lot of writers had courtly loves. Dickinson had Susan. Swift had Estella. And Aligari had Beatrice.
honestly massive shoutout to fitzgerald for managing to literally marry his unobtainable courtly mistress and still somehow spend his life pining for her
@@kariscoyne1886 Ultimate simp
Fun fact: while you can definitely consider Dante's love for Beatrice as "courtly love", it is more correct to say that it's an evolution of that, called "dolce stil novo".
Like the courtly love, the dolce stil novo is about an impossible love, however it's a platonic love that has the sole purpose of getting the lover closer to god. The woman is considered a sort of angel so loving her is a true religious act
"absolute worst business trip in history."
That guy that got nuked twice in Japan would probably disagree.
Wow! That's not a commonly told story for most of the kids on the internet. I'm impressed. And I would have to agree. Funny thing is that guy ended up having a very long life.
What's his name? I gotta hear this!
@@xenos12500 Tsutomu Yamaguchi.
Jack Linde clearly the key to a long life is being slightly nuked every once in a while.
@@TheObsidianX it's the true purgatorius ignis
Popes:
Dante: I diagnose you with Hell!
*Simony
I recommend treatment by Hell
@@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 Didn't he say he was in the Apothecary's guild?
Now that's what I call a sick burn.
@@gabrielwright-dunn9355
May I recommend some ice to calm the burned area?
Devil May Cry 4 circa 2013
In Italy most high schoolers study the Divine Comedy for 3 years (some not so willingly). Here Dante’s fainting is a popular meme
Tolkien: I re-invented and revitalized the fantasy genre, humans, elves, dwarves, ogres, orcs, and dragons.
Dante: Oh yeah? *Turns his red cap backward on his head and leans with arms folded* I practically reinvented the Christian Afterlife.
Bro
Dante made it worse
@@aramkaizer7903 ok nerd
But I'm not going to lie in this case when this end up with them both shaking hands LMAO
"abandon hope, all ye who enter here,"
This is the slogan of our local bank when you're trying to apply for a cash loan.
that's a good one because it's true
You must use Bank of America. Hellish.
That’s actually funny
“If you have already abandoned all hope, please disregard this notice.”
haha😂
Fun fact: Not only Dante was married, his wife was part of the Donati family, which led the Black Guelphs. And Dante somehow had a fairly good relationship with some members of her family, in spite of their role in the exiling him. The two of them also had children, two of which helped him write the Commedy, and became among the first to write a Commentaries explaining it. Altough at one point in the Paradise, not even they know what their father was actually ranting about.
"Non-Local Man Too Angry to Die"
That's basically how I'm going to see Dante forever now.
Wacky woohoo pizza man adventures? Hello?
"YOU CANNOT KILL ME
I AM OMEGA
YOU CANNOT KILL ME
I AM SUBHUMAN"
What do you call hellish pasta?
Al Dente's inferno
bad joke I know
Beautiful joke
NuriTheFury honestly I think it wasn’t horrible, it’s like broken pencil though, utterly pointless
No no. It's good. Own your puns
Incredibile
Ayyyyyy
I'm surprised that why he wasn't portrayed as a demon wearing a red cape while having white hair and wielding two pistols
Why are you everywhere?And this is almost my 100th time asking this to you.
With a cheap slice of pizza hanging out of his mouth
@@silkworm2595 Pizza is too recent. He was fond of unsalted bread
@@biliminsrlar5752 What are you talking about? This is just some random dude without a mustache.
@@jasonsilvernail1450 *He is everywhere*
Philosophy is a girl because yet a that point in history Italian gives gender even to objects and abstract ideas, mostly on the basis of the final vowel. The Italian word for philosophy happened to be "filosofia", ending with an A, so in our language philosophy is a feminine word.
Riccardo Leone There’s also a possible connection to Lady Wisdom in Solomon’s Biblical Proverbs.
Yes, it is the same in France :)
Spanish does that too
Yep portuguese too
Wow that's that's amazing!...then why in Dante's hellish Inferno were women often depicted as hysterical at the time again?😁😥
Poet, philosopher, politician, demon hunter. What a man!
He really did have MOTIVATION
@@jeeBisOkay Vergil (the writer): Why are you people like this?
Vergil (alpha and Omega): You get used to it
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec The writer's name is spelled Virgil, the DMC character's name is spelled Vergil
Sounds like Tanjiro
Lol
"I miss Florence almost as much as I hate everyone in it!" This is why I watch you, Blue.
I must say, I freaked out when he said Beatrice. I read Lemony Snicket as a kid, and still read them sometimes, and only watching this video did I realize that Snicket dedicating each book to and mourning over a dead Beatrice throughout is a clear reference and connection to Dante. Cool!
My boy dante
Who are you calling boy?
Mill 3
Dude dante is my boy
Dante is IL NOSTRO boy
Ayyyy
"the first 15 minutes of the lecture that no one pays attention to"
Me, an italian: yeah right *_15_* minutes
Ayee, Scientific here, 2 hours a week
classicists unite and rIOT
@@giulicrys8553 [pat pat]
@@margheritaparacini7729 ended Dante this year at scientific, and I had it at the exam. My god what a relief to having ended it
Italian man self-inserts himself into his fanfic and became a historical figure but when I self-insert I'm a goddamn weirdo.
To be fair Dante is a cool name however you should take note that Homer and Vergil didn't do the same and they we're ealier
@@Doralga Vergil did write crossover fiction though. Cough-Aeneid-cough
@@Lord_Of_Night but not a self insert
you say this like people don't view Dante as a bit of a weirdo. you can be a historical goddamn weirdo.
What kind of SI are you talking about? Dante had himself go through what is essentially unexplored territory of canon. That's like writing an MLP fanfic that isn't situated in Equestria.
Dante: The creator and patron saint of fanfiction and world building. Fight me.
The Arthurian "Canon" would have something to say about the former. (Just watch Red's video on the Arthurian Mythos)
What's to fight you speak the truth, now imagine him as a DM
*BLESS ME WITH YOUR GIFT OF LIGHT*
*Feel the sorrow the light has swallowed*
*DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH*
*Killed before, a time to kill them all*
*PASSED DOWN BY THE RIGHTEOUS LAW*
*Serve a justice that dwells in me*
"Was Ruled by the Emperor and Spiritually ruled by the Pope"
Yoda: Trouble this is
Then they went to war over a wooden bucket.
seneca983 Well, they needed to say it was about something
(NOT) Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
*[Sad devil triggers music]*
But may or may not featuring Dante from _Dante's Inferno_
They also have Vergil
This party is no longer getting crazy
"nymm muther noises"
Easy mode is now selectable
BROTHER
_"It ain't called 'Divine Comedy' a comedy because Dante got jokes. You see me laughing?"_
*~ Thug Notes*
"And he made of his butt a trumpet"
Well, he wrote down why he called it that. Keep in mind that at the time knowledge of Greek was still spotty in Italy and he called it "Commedia" just to say it's a "reverse tragedy" as in: a tragedy starts chill and then everything goes downhill while his poem started in hell and climbed back to paradise.
Comedy used to mean 'just about any story with a happy ending'. The Divine Comedy ends with Dante meeting God and finding out that he's chill. That's a pretty happy ending I would say.
Dude...
Imagine you die, and later in the afterlife, you realise some creep wrote three-books worthy of fanfic about their "'relationship'" with them?
Yikes... Poor Beatrice, man.
And also it became a massive hit and was read by tens of thousands of people for centuries afterwards. Yay.
Is it bad that before reading your last sentence, I thought this was about Vergil-senpai?
@@GurrenPrime Honestly, it applies to both.
Google the definition of “courtly love.” It will make a lot more sense. The whole thing was very much within the social norms of the time. The whole point was she was distant and unobtainable, thus his “love” was chaste and pure. But by modern standards, yeah it’s creepy.
Also, I've heard from historians that Beatrice and Dante did exchange letters for a period, even if they seldom saw each other. Didn't they...? Blue didn't mention anything of the sort so now I'm a bit confused.
“The more perfect a thing is, the more susceptible to good and bad treatment it is.”
- Dante
"Devils never cry"
-Dante to the pope
Somewhat out there a *devil may cry* after losing a loved one
If Dante Alighieri was alive during the papacy of Alexander VI, the sin of lust would probably be in one of the lower circles of hell.
Same I was thanking of the Show the Borgias for this in particular. Yeaahhh big yikes
I was hating him for throwing random people to hell in his books but now I hate him less after learning his life.
The most mad one in my opinion is Mohammed being in hell
@@nicolebee3283 he's a Christian so yeah.
*random*
yeah...
@@nicolebee3283 oh wow, news to me!
I study Italian Literature at University, so, since you hate him less after knowing about his life, you are about to know another fun fact about it: People usually tend to confuse "Dante Character" with "Dante Person" and since the first one allways passes away they think that the second one also was some sort of crying b*tch. In reality, after being exiled from Florence he spent his life running arround Italy not because he didn't want to stay put in one place, but because he was such the mad lad he got exailed from allmost every city he entered
Not only did Dante's writings make Italian the dominant literary language of Europe, it led to the Tuscan dialect becoming the dominant form of Italian - modern Italian is basically Tuscan.
I’m so happy for this! Dante became one of my favorite authors of all time after listening to the fantastic Ancient World podcast which did a line-by-line study of the Divine Comedy. His idea of increasingly beautiful reflections of divinity really shaped my understanding of the world. Particularly the section in Paradiso about the Moon.
I fear in a couple hundred years, the fanfics we write, My Immortal, will end up studied in classrooms.
victor hoang especially 50 shades of grey lol
There is a school of thought that My Immortal was a parody of the common fanfics and tropes of the time. The works being parodied, alas, have been lost to the tides of the early internet.
Oh, that's a fearsom thought. To imagine that something like all those Y/N works in wattpad could be one day be used by future generations to study the culture and society of today. (°-°)
@@Janoha17
It actually _kinda_ was.
So let’s learn about omega verse kids
Hi, italian literature student from Bologna here. I only wanted to say thank you for this video. It really made me remember why the "Divina Commedia" (fun fact: called "Divina" only after Boccaccio read it for the people in 1350) is one of the finest pieces of literature in the world history.
Blue: starts a lecture about anything to do with history
Me: plopping my ass down in that seat notebook and pen ready
Bring it!
"Eternal damnation has never been so scenic!" - Blue, 2019
An inspirational guy, to be sure. After all, if this guy can walk through hell and make it out alive then surely I can make it through my Economics final
Good luck!
I would say, "Yeah, but he was a bit of a mary sue." However, as Blue pointed out, Dante was a bit of a jerk in Hell and only started cleaning up his act in Purgatory.
this isn't super related but whatever. I saw this meme of a paper somewhere that said "if internet Explorer is brave enough to ask to be your default browser, you can ask that girl out."
Being real here. Blue and Red you are both treasures, you have renewed my interest in the subjects of history and myth, and you have made me more reassured than ever that i can succeed in my pursuit of writing. thank you both and please never change.
Those damn Florentines, changing the flow of history again
Yay! My favorite fan-ficton author! Thanks Blue!
Sometimes i forget that this channel was started by two young adults in college, and its grown into a brand with two friends who work very well together ❤️❤️❤️ I LOVE OSP
Kinzo Ushiromiya: Beatoriiiiicheeeee!
Dante Alighieri: This guy gets it.
Featuring Dante from 13th century Italy
Clattertrap this is amazing
Dante knew what was up, providing scathing commentary on politics, religion, and society long before the Internet was even a thing. And of course, both Virgil and he have their names immortalized as one of the greatest pairs of siblings in video game history, but you only really get the literary legacy connection when you consider V reading William Blake's poetry in Devil May Cry 5. Blake took inspiration from Milton, who in turn took inspiration from Dante, for the religious subtext and overt references in their bodies of work; I learned about this 'literary bloodline' when reading "Inferno" for fun, and "Paradise Lost" and Songs of Innocence and Experience for classes, when I was in college.
Great job Blue. The long awaited historical context to Red's coverage of Dante's Divine Comedy is finally here.
Dante is such a relatable poet because he feels like an angry Millennial transposed into Italy centuries before Millennials existed. Politically active, angry and tired as fuck, fed up with the political system in which they grew up, angry relationship with a person they only kinda now, obsessed with remixing the stories he loved as a kid with his own OCs and headcanons...he'd fit right in on Tumblr and/or AO3.
I care little for historical people, but blue's enthusiasm makes me care. It's so wonderful.
Dante basically laid the foundations for the Italian language, then Alessandro Manzoni picked up his idea and wrote "I Promessi Sposi" to finish building it.
Only took him 20 years to write it.
I sure have seen her summaries. that Purgatorio scream still haunts me
Eyes?
In Italy, we're required to study Dante and to read the Divina Commedia (and his other works) in high school. Back then it seemed like a useless torture, but looking back it's a wonderful thing and I'm really happy they made us do that.
These videos are wonderful my friend. Thanks for sharing these things with the world!
I find it funny how Dante managed to get away with a self-insert even into today
To be fair, his self-insert was more a bystander than an actual protagonist.
h0m3st4r understandable
2:11 a little nitpicky thing to point out, but actually the name of the factions are written as "guelfi" instead of "guelphi". Every other bit of the video is spot on and sincere congratulations to you, because that's the best italian pronunciation I've heard from a foreigner.
Imagine some dude sees you twice and makes you a character in classical literature.
09:42 "Get rekt, Your Holiness" 😂😂
“But getting to drop the distract on a self absorbed being AS YOU. Is a sweet blessing”
Dante Alegeri
"H.R.E organized"
Yeah, yeah totally believe it.
Featuring Dante from the Divine Comedy
goddamnit blue, how dare you make me actually respect dante (since i love the fact that the divine comedy was a self-insert fanfic)
still, great video, love your content!
OSP: Does Dante
Me: Jackpot
I literally just finished watching the video for Paradiso for the millionth time when I saw that Dante video and went "huh, I didn't know Blue also talked about Dante! I wonder how long I've been sleeping on that" and then found out that it was posted 25 minutes ago
Great timing!
I have never thought of "Divine Comedy" in terms of it's literary importance, but it really is incredible. I am no expert, so very likely I'm missing a lot of other works, but it would seem "Divine Comedy" is one of the first, if not the first, pieces of literature that place its story in an entirely fantastical setting, since all of the previous important epics, poems etc. simply contain their story within the mundane world, with maybe some divine intervention here and there to spice it up a little.
Me, who studied Dante's life for years and read the comedy infinite times in the original form: ah yes, mad long nose boi is finally potraied properly
This has helped my elementary school kids SO MUCH as they've started studying Dante this week here in Italy. Puts it in context and makes us all chuckle. Thank you!!! We will check out your other videos, too!
... You _do_ know that 'elementary school' means ages 4 to 10 in English, right? That seems a bit young to be reading something as long and old as the _Divine Comedy._
Like, we don't force our kids to read Shakespeare until they're at least 13.
Yes, I am Canadian, fully aware of what elementary school age is… don’t worry :) strangely, Italian school systems do start reading Dante in grade 4 and 5… that’s why I was so happy to find this video to help them (and also me, tbh) understand it in a different way.
As an aside: my daughter’s teacher was great tho, she said, see, we have slowly read this big part of Dante and understood it, now you know that you should not be afraid of approaching “big” works of art! Not sure how my second kids teacher is gonna approach reading it this year but hopefully in a nice, accessible way.
Thank you, Blue for making this video, I wanted to learn more about Dante & you & Red are the best at explaining history & literature in a clear & concise manner
Dante huh?
"Jackpot!"
1321 - 2021 700 years since Dante's death.
In Italy 2021 is called "anno dantesco", there are several events dedicated to Dante this year.
Just to understand how immense was and is his work for western culture is always good to remember that he wrote the Commedy centuries before the invention of the printing and still influenced people from all social classes all over the continent.
OSP: makes a video about Dante
Me:
This... does put a smile on my face
i'm italian and i just started studying classic italian literature (i'm in my third year of "adult" high school); it's been pretty hard to grasp the enormous footprint that dante left on basically all aspects of italian culture, politics and history, so this was really helpfull!! dante also wrote the "monarchia", which really encompasses his growing distaste for the pope and his dominium. he basically arguments that the only way the world can exist in peace and prosperity is by having a super-powerful emperor (actually, prince) as the sole holder of power. yeah he's all or nothing.
just wanted to thank you for this video :)))
Ah yes, my favorite fictional and totally not historical character, Dante, from a video game titled Dante’s inferno!
Or from the Devil May Cry series
Quite a fun game.
Jacabo Alighieri: Mama, I have a question.
Gemma Donati: Yes, my son?
Jacabo: So I just heard father's epic poem, the Divine Comedy-
Gemma: No, my first name is not Beatrice. Your father knew her as a child. No I am not bitter about her being his divine love instead of me. You know, the one that bore his children.
Dante: "Oh yeah? Just wait until I write you in my fanfic! You'll be *sorry*!"
THIS PARTY IS GETTING CRAZY!!!!
JACKPOT!
LET'S ROCK!
"HIYAAAH" Stinger intensifies
Come on baby, Come get me!
Dante is psychotic and I’m LIVING FOR IT
Trying living WITH it.
Beatrice: "I don't even know who you are!"
Dante: "You will..."
I love me some Devil May Cry Lore
Lol
I found OSP while looking for info regarding the Divine Comedy, subbed ever since, glad to know we finally got a vid on Dante himself
4:24
And that's what we love you for, Blue.
This is a fantastic video, and I'd never really realised just how influential Dante is.
as someone who has studied dante for yeaars i wanna add, for your hypothetical pleasure, that dante WAS offered to come back to Florence, but only IF he confessed to the "crimes" the guelfi neri invented to get him exiled in the first place: as you may immagine after this whole video, dante strongly refused the offer multiple times
also, nobody cares, but the meetings with the love of his life were strategically put at symbolic dates as a metaphor for beatrice's perfectness! the guy planned it all
You forgot to mention his fondness for pizza and strawberry sundaes.
Worldbuilding, self-insert OC, crossover, with his own waifu based on an abstract concept. If only there was an internet back then to award this mad lad.
Bless me with your gift of Blue
Righteous cause on history video!
That statue of him in the preview image really captured his essence. I mean, that is a look that says "Oh yeah? Well, I'm writing you into my afterlife fan-fiction, and I'm gonna have demons torment you in hell!".
Okay, I thought Red had Dante wearing a red coat as a DMC joke, but all those paintings hAve him wearing red to identify him, which is pretty cool.
Blue: this is the pre lecture that no one listens to. This is the quality content we're bringing here!
Me, content this is not a monotone professor and has visual aids on top of it: insert Thor ragnorok YEEESSSS!
Man who knew Devil May Cry had such complex lore?
Bone Face the 8th
skeleton visage the octenth
Bonifacio ottavo
Boney Face
I freaking love Dante and his Divine Comedy. Too bad I could never get through Paradiso. Guess Heaven just isn't as exciting as Hell and Purgatory.
I had the same problem. I missed Virgil. Unlike signore Alighieri, I didn't give a ram's damn about Beatrice.
It's the Latin
Oh man, you guys, try again. You're missing so much... St. Dominic and St. Francis singing each other's praises in the Heaven of Saturn... All the great warriors forming a screaming eagle and speaking with many voices but a single voice in the Heaven of Neptune... the field of flowers with the glittering bees...
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When I reread Dante's Paradiso, all I could think was, "This dude was high when he wrote this."
It’s one of those things that you kinda need to experience while high to fully enjoy
One of my Nonno's best friends loves Dante. I learnt through him all the pieces of the literature and the framework of the Dante's life. Thanks for condensing it down to help me understand it.
He protec
He attac
He can make iconic books that have you in hell
Don't get on his bac
Really cool video! There are only 2 little details I would like to point out.
First of all it is true that the Comedy is a journey that talks about exile but it's also much more than that; I was taught in school that the Divine Comedy is full of deeper meanings about religion, ethics, and politics, in fact it can be interpreted in as much as four different ways.
The second point I wanted to address is just that the last canto of the Inferno is considered to be the 33rd, as the first of the whole Commedia isn't considered part of the journey in hell (but I could definitely be wrong on this).
Amazing video by the way!
I wish I can sing with red and learn with blue. That would be a dream.
I've been unexpectedly fixated on this dude and the Divine Comedy lately, and it's the first time I've ever really gotten interested a piece of classic literature or a historical figure. I think part of my Dante appreciation comes from the fact that he's someone whose life changed really dramatically from how he expected it to be. He could've had a career in Florence's politics, but then fate had other plans and he wouldn't be legally allowed in the city until ~700 years after his death. I've never experienced a change in my life even close to that size, but when I first went to college in 2021, I learned some things about myself that changed my perception of who I am in a big way and made the future seem much more difficult and painful. I can understand the mindset this author may have been in, which is kind of amazing given how different the way he, a deeply religious man from Italy in the late 13th to early 14th century saw his world from how, an atheist woman in America in the new 20s, see mine.
I always interpreted The Inferno as an allegory for redeeming yourself for past sins. Being lost in the wilderness off the narrow beaten path. I understand that might be better suited for The Purgatory but this idea helped me at a time when I was younger in highschool, for the sake of being a better person (and being worthy of girl no less XD). I identified alot with Dante.
"The girl" thing didnt really work out but, I learned about self love too, so hay I may have 1 up on Dante :)!
Another fun fact. In Italian, Dante's work _rhymes._ (erza rima)
All of it.
I once had a literal college textbook of Dante's Inferno, and still feel guilty for giving it to an old coworker I used to work with.
Ravioli ravioli give me them Italian stories
It’s nice to hear Blue, I’m always hearing Red talk about chaos, hearing Blue calmly talk about historical chaos is a nice change of pace
As an avid viewer of your content, I think it would be absolutely amazing if you two covered what life was like in Medieval Russia and the literature that came from it
All right, now we need a video about Ariosto.
6:27 So Dante's namesake was the ACTUAL dead weight
now dante must feel hypocritical after what he said to Nero...
This name brings back all the skyblock flashbacks.
I SHOULD'VE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIIIIIIIIIIGHT!