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India should spend more into R&D as Russia is moving close to china. China is expanding its military. USA will bring more cases like Pannu in future. It's gonna be hard in future if you don't invest more in R&D for engines, weapons, drones, warships, missiles etc....
Bhai baap bada na bhaiya Sabse bada rupaiya
China is transactional ally of Russia.
Itna Gyan chod Raha toh tu kuch drdo ko donate kar k dikha , 1 -2 baar bhi donate kar dega 3 time par tere haath kapanege.
@@KS-op9bb bas le rahe hai fayada need Khali 20-30cr ko hai
The sad part is due to our big brain non-aligned policy we can't trust any party be it west or East. I still don't know why we are still following this. Having no allies means everyone is a potential enemy.
I think we should normalise the China border tension ASAP and grow our economy more.
India should realise that for such critical technology shortcut is not the solution. Countries can easily launch rockets to space but they cannot make a good jet engine. That's how complex the process is.
एटमी असासे बनाना बहोतो को आता है, लेकिन जेट एंजिन नही.
Finally a good news... I hope govt of India also tries to increase sanctioned strength of fighter jets to atleast 50-55 squadrons (or perhaps 60 squadrons, so that in order to reach 60, we atleast reach 50-55 as bare minimum, like we are currently at 30-35 instead of 40-42)
and more assembly lines should be made (to build atleast 50-60 aircrafts per annum) to help in inducting fighter jets at a faster rate, and make a decent presence in the foreign market as well
on a side note :
if our on paper projects can be turned into reality, then those fighter jets will be atleast on par with Russian and French aircrafts, meaning we do have a final chance to become more better in tech (atleast in this field, in the next 30-40 years) compared to China... if this happens, India can be the 2nd best country in the world for military equipment
i hope the govt does take some big bold steps from 2024 onwards so that we can catch up in progress
56 squads are required. Greece me bhi ek squad rakhna chahiye just to make a point.
@@dkq986 yup, perhaps IAF entirely shall be expanded 1.5 times
that means around 60 squadrons fighter jets anyways (isme delay toh honge hi, toh 50-55 ko bhi chhodo, 45 bhi pahunch jaaye wohi badi baat hai)
and well in general too 1.5 times increase karna chahiye (atleast 2400 aircrafts needed compared to just around 1600 right now in total)
and you are right
CHINA is making its bases all around us and stationing its own jets there, while we are not
if we are not doing the same in the next 10-15, then we are in trouble...
Greece Armenia Mauritius Philippines main humko bhi bases banane chahiye ab toh
Iran ki bekaar sarkar hat jaye aur ek acchi secular sarkaar aa jaye toh accha hoga, coz uss tareeke se wahan parr bhi bases bana sakte hain and China ke initiatives bekaar ho jayenge
abhi ke liye toh chalo 56 chhodo, current number of around 35 squadrons bachane hain pehle...
i hope after 2030 and till 2045 the IAF increases the requirements by atleast 1.5 times coz Chinese Airforce is becoming MASSIVE
I can understand how frustrating it will be if every time I make changes in system and has to take it to 1000s km away to test certain parameters. How easily people judge GTRE and label kaveri as failure
Purely Educated India detected ❤
Sir...in next 10-18 years we will need access to many types of jet engines, ranging from 450kgf for small cruise missiles to 140kn for 5th gen Su-30 weight-class fighters.... 120-150kn high-bypass engines for MTA-90 or IL-76 class transporters...30-55kn engines for UCAVs & high performance trainers on the lines of EADS Mako...we must never forget that no one will ever share complete tech for jet engines with us, therefore we need to adopt a 3 pronged strategy....First, co-development or TOT for 110-120kn class engines with either or both Snecma & RR...Second, starting with AL-41 for Super-Sukhoi program we must purchase the TOT / License for AL-51/Iz-30 and involve a private player for assembly/manufacturing of both these engines in India...Third, GTRE must be adequately funded & allowed to build all testing facilities for development of a 78-90kn dry core for a 130-140kn afterburnervvariant....many will ask why do we need russian engines, but i personally think they are the masters at TV & high-thrust engines, the only issue with their engines is reliability & life-span, which i think is due to inferior metallurgy & production standards or tolerances as compared to western designs but these deficiencies can be worked upon reliably & successfully by our private players with support from DRDO labs
Just like Ghatak UCAV, we can use unmanned Tejas with 73 kn as testbed. Once proven can be upgraded.
But question is why do you need to convert a new aircraft to unmanned platform?? Just why?? we are converting our old trainer jets so as to use them as decoy / kamikaze roles if needed. But there is no sense to convert a entirely new plane to be unmanned. We can make them unmanned after the body frames reach their service life and are no more safe for a pilot.
Testbeds are never unmanned. If something happens Pilot can eject. It's not like Pilot will go directly to 73kn😂 it's long process and starts from ground testing steadily increasing Power. Takes lot of time that's why you can't depend on others.
Well Gtre trying to get mig-29 from navy to use as a flying test bed.
Bhi saabvtest bed do engine walya aircraft per banta hai jesmya akk engine kho replace kar deyya jatta hai aur testing vibration landing sarrya test keyya jattya hai😮😮😮
Building a test facility require push from PMO , someone needs to convince directly prime minister Modi for this.
And India as a nation needs to take a strategic call regarding future of aero engine development in India itself.
for that we need engineer as a defense minister
@@shivajithakur7735 more than engineer a visionary
Modi nay pm bantya hee 2014 may kavari engine kho scrab kar funding saree rokke dee thee aur 36raffles khreed layya thaa this was big blunder and destar to kavari project but thanks to our scinet who work hard with low budget and resources bjp GOv is blenders
we must come up with some funds for testing of engines. This is long pending requirement. India must seriously think on this. or make me PM for day :)
Frankly, it's interesting to see that the components of wind tunnels for such facilities are already being manufactured in India.
It is just a case of oversight for Babus who don't know where to find the suppliers.
I fully support your mentioned points that India must have testing and certification agencies keeping in mind current and future requirements.
Why GOVT not making a fund raising programs (Govt & Companies R&D Responsibility Fund) for future redy technologies by ways of making a dedicated SPV. Involving Edtech Institutions and Govt & pvt Companies. Like CSR Funds program. This will be win win situation for both students, Companies and Government. Jai Hind
I believe that India must collaborate with Japan based IHI for jet engine development,Ind and Japan are in the same boat so i guess they will understand our predicament better than either European or American politicians
Americans will never allow it, did you forgot our dear friend Shinzo Abe?
@@asmodeus3084 How come Americans dictate Japanese who to do business with,even if they do Japanese will follow what they feel is best for them. America doesn't hold IP right to Tejas,so likewise as the Japanese have helped us in getting our bullet train started and most importantly the car industry i hope they will be willing to work together with us. I understand i am comparing apples and oranges but i guess it will be a win win situation for both the countries
@@flanker531 it is a win-win for India and Japan, but it's a loss-loss for US.
Both India and Japan will then compete with American jet engines in an international Market which holds a fair amount of chunk.
If Japan's policies were so nationalistic, do you think they would go from having 5 Trillion+ GDP in the 90s to a mere 4 Trillion in the 20's.
@@asmodeus3084 Sir Japanese population is ageing and also recent studies have shown that due to this the efficiency of economic productivity has decreased as a result due to increased spending on geriatric care of its citizens and some natural calamities coupled with Fukushima disaster and COVID has dented Japanese in a way . India offers a vibrant economy rearing up so i believe Japan will help us in this endeavour. I hope it comes out true.
@@flanker531 all you said is just a speculations, there is no conclusive proof that former lead to later rather than later causing former effect. (Except for natural calamities)
When your economy is shrinking, inflation is sure to rise which leads to people struggling to provide for families, rising rents and choose to have less kids.
There is a certain narrative to smokescreen the influence of the US over Japan.
Think of it in terms of One Piece anime,
The marine force and world govt is uncle Sam while pirates are the influential Japanese people. One of the reasons why pirates are heroes in the story while cops are the villains.
Yes India should invest in R&D facility for being independent in testing, as try to get the end results. Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳☝️😊
GTRE needs to invest in developing its own Engine Test Facility before developing the engine itself. It is just common sense. All the product companies invest huge amount in developing the test tools and machines before developing the actual products.
Jai Shree Radhe Krishna 🙏🙏🧡
Jai Bharat Rashtra 🙏🙏🧡
Kindly aap ek master video bana dejiye science and technology ka 2023 me hue development ka
Ye bahut helpful hoga mere liye... Aur sara year ka glimpse bhi mil jyga
Right brother India should develop its own flight testing infrastructures although if we test our kavari we should learn the lacking portion of kavaree engine and we can rectify it's in India and we get reserch and development knowledge 😮😮😮😮😮
Now we need test facility in india and government should do something
First thing drdo should do before starting a project is to ensure that they have have all testing infrastructure ready before project begin
Bhi funding toh gov kho karnee hai modi make in India make in India cellatya hai Beena proper funding kayy kaisya bhalla make in India hogga drdo kyyavlarya jab gov fund hee sanction naa karya funds kahha hai 😮😅😅😅😅
Same sh1t different day with engine news.
Seriously the government still has no plans for a flying test bed .
Recent turbulence in Indo-US relations has given a rude awakening in Indian R&D.
They gotta set up all engine development facilities in the next 2 years. Engine for AMCA be developed here in India with french collab.. Allot funds on a national priority!
Atma Nirbhar Bharat kya jadui chhadi se hoga?
Test facility with all required equipment is a MUST and IMMINENT!
अपना इंजन अपना ही होता है देशी 🎉
Very good
Good news!!
Bahot achi news hai bhai.. bas ispe continues kaam hota rahe or ispe kharch kiya hua 1,1 paisa kaam aaega...dry kaveri,after burner kaveri bhi utna hi jada important hai jitna 130 kn wala amca wala...jo bhi ham kaveri se sikhenge wo 130 kn wale me bahot kaam aaega.
I've been watching your videos for quite some time now. Although, your videos are good butnlately quuality of content has not be too impressive. But this video in fact is among 2 or 3 good videos that your channels have produced. Please make content more rich like this one. Thank you for all the effort that you put in and for bringing defence news to us.
Finally. we will have a ground test facility after 30 years of efforts to become self reliance in Jet Technology.
Der Aye Durust Aye!
Abhi High altitude test facilities and FTB are pending
It's jst an excuse.. DRDO couldn't develop a tank engine during 30 yrs of arjun project.
Soon we would find in upcoming CAG report which foreign engine core dry kaveri is using..
JAI HIND 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Hope the Safran codevelopement deal goes through
MOD/Indian armed forces have worked so long for a vision less govt, that they have still not recovered from their slumber, stupor in 10 years, hopefully in another 10 years they will be awake
Is it only the cost or something else which stops the government in developing the entire test facility in India related to engine development?
Which available aircraft can become flying testbed?
The new Bharat is very good at building options and leverage. Watch the fun- an indigenous engine option is coming very soon
We need to build an engine that's got 130kn thrust output first
@alphadefense in ur drone video u said the definition of "aatmanirbhar" is different for different parties and this is the reason why i m not sure even after all theae positive development
India should go for heavy flying test bed from UK or France since they are your present suppliers and can be influenced better than USA and qualitywise will be better than Russia. The test bed must be for engines upto 150 KN.
Indian govt is not really pushing self reliance at required level in defense sector
Bro can u make a video explaining what all facility is required to make an engine . What all facilities we have and what all facilities we need.🙏
Kash aapaki video Bharat sarkar dekhe❤
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As a 3.7 trillion dollars economy i wonder why we still haven't joined the elite group of making engines indigenously and r&d😢
If the crucial deterrent is prohibitive cost or technology denials?
Jai shree Sita Ram Hanuman 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🎉🎉🇮🇳🎉🎉🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We need to do as early as possible, DRDO can do everything
This Engine can we use for drones like RQ- Global Hawk OR MQ - Triton. . . ?
Political leadership chahti nahi hai ki indigenous development ho...... Sarkar chahe to kya nahi ho sakta......
Why India don't have high altitude engine test facility and flying test bed ? Govt kar kya rahi hey ? Kya unko ishke bare mein kuch ata-pata nahi hey kya ? 😡😡😡😡
एक अच्छी खासी कावेरी इंजन को पूर्व की सरकार ने जो अधर बक्से में डाला था वर्तमान में सबसे बड़ी गलती साबित हो रही है।
So why can't India go with a twin engine fighter option, 73 x 2 KN.
We should not depend on foreign companies as they won't give us 100% technology. Let's not waste our time . I think DRDO GTRE and Godrej Aerospace Engineering should do test facility and test bed in India itself.
Russia is expensive, war between Russia and Ukraine going on. Hum Atmanirbhar Bharat banayenge.
Jai Hind Jai Bharat 🇮🇳
Why we are not convert IL76 in flying testbed for our feature engine program.
Can you review the book of Indian Air Power: Contemporary and Future Dynamics .
Test facility kaafi nahin hai.
Flying testbed bhi chahiye jald se jald.
I had one question in my mind can't we use 70kn engines in our drones?? and can't we do the engine & other important testing on the retiring fighter jets & trainers like mig21??
App Thora reserch karo drons Kay leyya engine ki power Jayda aur weight kaam honna chiya kavari kaa wajan 1250kg kaa hai jab yah fighter may nahi lag saktta toh iskho modified kar drons may use karnangya per kaam mushkeel hai
Mig 21single engine fighter hai bhi test bed hamesha double engine walya fighter per hotta hai aur bhiya joh engine tast karna hai whoh maujuda engins Kay parameters Kay barabar honna chiya tarrju ki tarh balance honna chiya
Is 130kN engine enough for BVR energy directed weapon Pods ?
Absolutely yah
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What are the probability that if the kaveri engine was given funds back then will india be able to manufacture 130 kn engine on itself without any help from foreign oem
Sab first hai😅
problem ye hai ke jet engine technology india ke paas hai hi nahin dusra siraf paisa bachane ko indian govt jet engine banane ko kisi dusre mulk ke sath koi agreement sign nahin karna chahti, military ho navy ho ya indian air force ho paisa bachane ko modi ne sab ko neglect kar rakha hai, ab jabki sachai ye hai ke aj ki date mein pakistani air force india se kahin majboot hai.🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Why India not use Russian 172 kn engine. Side wise It go with his in testing. So it not delay Indian Projects.
@Alpha Defence i hope you answer my question, saw a new byte on India today hosted by shiv arorr a few minutes ago about Gathak about politics killing the project and the change of agency or lab handling it in DRDO, Can you please comment or answer through video, thank you
Video soon
@@AlphaDefenseHindi Thank you for the quick response , eagerly waiting for the video
It was stupid on part of DRDO and MoD to start designing engine without test facilities,without cerifying existing 71 Knu and going ahead with twin engine configuration and later develop on functional 71 K nu. Even now MoD and DRDO not serious
What about our Kaveri, when will that completes its final development and will we test it in Russia instead of this new facility?
In 3 years from here if funds don’t stop
Mostly probability ... Yes
Kindly aap ek master video bana dejiye science and technology ka 2023 me hue development ka
81kn Thrust ka Engine bana nahi paa rahe
130kn ka kaise bana lenge
No Test Facility
No Flying Test Bed
No High Altitude Test Facility
Engine Chahiye 130kn
Wah MODI JI Mazza aaya
Kya Baat hai
facility na hona ka matlab maa hai nahi bacha peda ho jai. mager engine mai atam nirbar hona hai. wai ri sarkar
आप बार-बार 81 KN use कर रहे हैं... कावेरी तो intended था 90 KN के लिए न...🤔
Kaveri has two planned variants
K9 for 80KN class and K10 for 90+
We did not take any one ahead
सर जी नमस्कार, सर जी जैसा कि आप ने कहा कि फ्लाइंग टैस्ट बैंड हमारे पास नहीं है और एक बार ये भी खबर आई थी कि IL 76 जो भारत के पास है उन में से कई एअर फ्रेम ने अपनी आधी से भी कम उम्र पूरी की है और उन का फ्लाइंग टैस्ट बैंड के रूप में इस्तेमाल किया जा सकता है और इस का सरकार पर भी ज्यादा खर्च नहीं आएगा,शुक्रिया
who is to know that foreign test facilities will intentionally under rate and report the engine power to fail the program. Now don't go saying its not possible, being a tech i know and have experienced multiple such cases albeit in other areas and it is very much possible to keep one dependent on foreign arms supplies
Can't they use one spare LCA unit just for testing purposes....
125 kn marut ke ke liay bhi hoga 🙏
What is the guarantee that these countries don't fudge with critical data gathered during tests in their facilities?
These piecemeal approaches is the root cause of delays.
Test facility india mein honi chahiye
Why these engines are not used in twin engine planes
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What is the latest update on the development of a new Kaveri Jet engine for Fighter aircrafts ( indegeneous program) or the partnership with France or UK to develop one.
Nil batta sannata kyo ki hum tajas varient aur amca Kay leyya American engine use kartya hai aur France Kay sath 110kn thirst kaa akk Naya variable core bannya per colibration per batt chal rahi hai kavari Kay leyya nayya core develop karna hogga
Can you explain what facilities are required to make a jet engine
You need a ground test, High altitude test and flying test bed to get a engine tested
Finally a fighter jet test bed for certification
I think we should make engine with saffron but not just India and france but we can ask UAE or other rich arab country to join us. This way we won't get too much financial burden on R & D cost and we can make fighters together if they wish. UAE fighter requirements are increasing so we can get good amount of export order for basic parts even if they assemble fighters in UAE. They are more reliable than US for sure.
me waiting for that title : 130KN jet engine trial successful
Ek dbba bnane m bhi 10 sal lag jate h esi to sarkare h😮
First get Hitec material s developed for blades which can withstand heat and rigours of testing
What can't a test facility be setup in leh-laddakh?
Well Engine banana hai Honeymoon pe jana nahi hai
Can you ask from jokers sitting on top of DRDO , what stops them from getting these requirements, have they submitted a plan to govt ever for all the inputs ?
This channel belongs to india alliance ❤
Funds for Kaveri were stopped by PM Singh Cabinet and PM Modi 1.0 cabinet did not restart funds :)
I lost hope about our own engine 😢 . Nobody bothering about this technology we are hearing same news from decades 😢 unfortunately government is not giving enough attention and fund..
France , UK USA kisi se test bed plane le sakte hai
test facility
Test bed plane lene mein sarkar ko problem kaya hai
government delayed mrfa, closed kaveri, exit out of fgfa. Now revisiting everything again..many years wasted.
rewari freebie mai paissa chala jaata hai, baaki apne business housewale le jaate hai
Partnering with UKs rolls Royce pose same threat as partnering with usa for engines
Unfortunately the only reason is government is interested in money through lobbying but not in make in India !!
Sir America and indai collaboration one new engene 414
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मेरे मुंह की बात छीन लिए.. ट्विन इंजन जेट बनाने का..
इस विचार को शायद सालो पहले किसी चैनल में लिखा भी था कि कावेरी का 2 इंजन लगा कर क्या तेजस को नही बनाया जा सकता..भले ही साइज,वजन कुछ बढ़ जाय
30 saal se kuch ho ni raha h..dusro se help lene ki practice h hum Indians ki..😢
Sir is our government planning to kill kaveri engine program?
If everything will be made in india how will the politcan get kickbacks in dollars.