I don’t normally leave a comment. But I have to say, even though you aren’t a fan of this bag. You described the cons in a very professional way without talking crap about it. Great job!
Highly agreed. Why buy a tactical bag from a tactical site with images of obsessive tactical MOLLE on it . Click the buy button . And then complain it's too tactical 🤣
I personally love the bag, it’s my go to bag for my daily carry. The dimensions are perfect for my smaller frame. But yes I agree. It would even be more awesome if they incorporated a dedicated water bottle pouch.
I’m glad that mine doesn’t have a bottle pouch. I like that it’s decently narrow in width on the back. I have a molle bottle pouch that I can add if I want my bottle outside the pack.
I have the Rush 24 model. It seems that model has a lot of the features that you were wishing the 12 has. Drain holes, camel pack pocket with straw outlets. I’m sure you’ve seen the 24, but after seeing this video, I’m really glad I went with that model in lieu of the 12. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for doing what you do 🙏🏻💪🏼🇺🇸
I've stop carrying anything that looks tactical, especially something that you have to leave in a truck, my local fire department was vandalized every truck was broken into and all the get home bags , tactical defense bags were stolen . smh 🤬 great video keep them coming 👍🏿.
Likewise. I carry a swiss backpack that I have modified. If you claim to be a survivalist and carry any tactical looking gear, you better reevaluate your life. You will be targeted first.
@@mnight207 lol this is why i sold mines, the rush 12 was a beast but every time i was wearing it around i got asked if i was in the military got annoying as fuck, i got it because i wanted something durable for many years to come and it looked cool to me plus it didnt have a water bottle pocket which is a must for me.
Yeah same, I switched to a vertx Gamut 2.0 in colonial blue, it has very good features and is a tactical backpack but looks more like a normal hiking backpack from the outside.
thanks for the video! I've seen another reviewer slide his bag from his back quickly to the front & he had super quick access to the CCW & pulled his 'fake' pistol for the review....it was pretty sweet, smooth, & very fast.....there is a buckle at the bottom of the straps that cane be undone, he quickly undid the buckle...turning into a hybrid-swing, then swung the entire bag to his frontside where it was now horizontal & he had his pistol out super fast! I was like: whoa
I used the rush 12 in double-tap for 10 years. I attached a med kit and H20 pouch. I lived out of that pack on the road. I didn't need a carry on for everyday life. I got it all in the 12. I just retired it and got the 2.0 in ranger green. Now, originally, I got double tap because at that time I thought it looked less combative. But now, it looks more combative than the ranger green. O.D., Khaki, tan packs have flooded the streets. Its normal to see those types of packs used by anyone. I switched out most of my pouches for ranger green. I like the H20 pouch handy for water, and it doubles as utility pouch. I what I really like about the 2.0 . is the concealment pocket. My tablet fits right in there. I could live without the extra padding for the laptop, but hardly a deal breaker. I had a lot of the RUSH and MOAB packs (RUSH -12 , MOAB 10, MOAB-6, All Hazards Nitro). I also had Maxpedition packs as well. The 12 and Moab 6 have served me well. I take the 12 with me everywhere.
I had Rush 12 first edition for 4 years and after I've seen the 2.0 edition with that so yearned laptop compartment from the first model and that concealed pocket I instantly ordered it and I just love this bag cause it's near perfect, no other bag comes close to this one.
I use mine for my airline carry-on. It's a good bag, but not perfect. The SOG version of the same bag (Ninja) for 1/4 the cost is just as good and it has a water bottle pocket.
The song is not as good .the quality is much different I own a rush 24 2.0 and I've seen the sog. Not close the the level of quality that's is the rush
i genuinely love this bag. i've had mine for a while now and it's such an amazing bag. fits in perfectly at school or the office, i love the look and never get any comments on it being too tactical or whatever. i respect your opinion and come back to this video just to look at this bag haha
I found my first gen. RUSH12 at a thrift store about three years ago and I was very happy. I do not use it for every day carry for all of the reasons you express here especially because there is one lone sinch pouch inside (besides the two zipper compartments on the clamshell. It does have the drain holes which 5.11 seemed to have pulled for this second gen. which is unfortunate. However, it has become my favorite carry on bag when traveling. I usually travel alone, and a bag like this keeps folk at a distance. Not only that; I travel carry-on only, so I can fit a lot of other gear in here while calling it my personal item and leave plenty of room in my small roller for any thing I pick up along my travels; or if I'm going some place warm, my coat will fit nicely. I found this video while searching for reviews on 5.11 luggage because I was interested in matching it up. Thanks for the thoughtful review.
Many don't realize that the Rush 12 & 24 are heavily influenced by the USGI Molle II Patrol & Assault packs. They are basically product-improved, civilized versions but the underlying concept is the same.
you can use the back hydration section for a bladder as a tablet or extra place to store.....I've tested & my 17 laptop will fit in the back, if needed
Funny, but after watching your video ( very informative video by the way) I like it even more. Just ordered one , for me it looks perfect. Stay safe bro. ❤ from the Philippines.
I use mine like a messenger bag, phones, notebook day planner. I take it everywhere no body looks twice. My brother is a corporate type suit and tie, I got him one he Carries his to work everyday.
I don't think a bag can be considered too tactical today. many non military people are buying, and using these things. The big rip off here is this gray man stuff. They are selling you things that have less function. A bag is a bag. You can carry a weapon in anything. I'll stick with the tactical stuff. At the least I'll be able to hook extra shit to my bag if the need arises.
Wish I saw this sooner since I got on the EDC tacti-cool era when COVID first hit. Bought this bag and used it less than a handful of times. Now it used for house chores. When I need to get up to roof work on the swamp cooler, lugging up and down tools, replacing shingles etc. I have a North Face borealis as my EDC for work and play
I cannot say enough good things about the Vertx EDC. But i love it so much I want to upgrade to the Vertx Gammut, which is it's larger brother. The side zipper carry pouch is easily access able in an emergency. whether worn on one shoulder or both with quick release buckles at the bottom of each shoulder strap.
I have read some comments and the argument is that you are putting a target on your back for having a tactical bag but in my opinion it doesn't matter because the fact that you are carrying a bag in general will put a huge target on you
I got the same bag and agree with you on the no water bottle pouch, other than that I really like the bag. But what I really like is that Binford Tools flag you got. Semper Fi brother
The ccw pouch is not an afterthought. Some people don't care for sling bags. Especialy in fay pack in the 24l size designed for a full day hike or even an oversight rece. I personally travel for work 2 to 4 days a week doing construction. I also do kot leave home withiut at least a subcompact ccw and a couple mags. I also bring 2 gkashlights, hedlamp, first aid, leath3man saurge with all accessories, as well as a full size fized blad fi3ld knife. A bag in rhis size range is easy to grab and toss on my back while carrying all my crap into the hotel as well as being able to always have my edc gear handy.
After leaving the military I try to avoid "tactical" bags. I use an eBag when I do need to carry extra stuff. Have used them around 3-4 years. Might be worth a look
I have the gen 1 version of this. Its been used as a day sack since i got it ! For me it works because its bomb proof. Been used and abused since day one ! Nothings worn out or broken.
I had the same issues. I settled on the 5.11 amp 12 bag. This type of bag allows me to switch up the style. It can be pricey for the attachments but it was worth it. I know the 24 is really big so the 12 was perfect.
This dude buys a tactical backpack then complains its too tactical and that he cant wear it as a satchel to a pride parade! 🤣 Buy a swiss gear bag if all u carrying is a laptop and video game controller bro.
I love my rush and moab bags, I have had them for almost ten years. Absolutely no complaints.. I didn't know they made a version 2 since my Gen 1 bags have worked and latest so long. I just purchased the eldro pack, it hasn't arrived yet but I have a feeling I may regret it.
@@MarineX I think it is part of their sling bag series. The moab 6 is my current EDC, holds my medical equipment, firearm, mags, flashlight, pens, etc. The moab 12 is a bit too large, better to go with a backpack if you want anything bigger than a moab 6. I believe it's called the moab. Don't hold me too it though.
@@MarineX just checked, it is the moab 6. It's like a small sling pack, very good for EDC, my only complaint is it looks pretty tactical. Other than that, I have zero issues with my 5.11 bags.
@@MarineX I had a pair of 5.11 boots though, they were crap for water resistance and 5.11 wouldn't solve the issue. My 5.11 leather shoes I bought 5 years ago are great and still doing pretty well. 5.11 really let me down with their boots though.
I agree with some of the other comments, I used to carry the 5.11, I had several of their bags, but now I carry the Vertx EDC ready pack as my EDC bag. 5.11 is super rugged, but I like the more toned down Vertx options. Nice video sir!
Good info, I use my Rush 12 for my summer EDC, works well for my needs! I live outside Ft Campbell, so tactical look isn’t big deal here. If I travel or don’t wanna carry what I call my “shoot me first” bag, I use the Vertx EDC ready pack or Covrt 18.
I own practically every 5.11 bag one thing I can say is you cant beat quality when it comes to5.11 bags. I seen cheaper bags when you leave them in the truck they will rot and tear. They offer different sizes and diffrent types to fit your needs just look around and see what you like when it comes to 5.11.;one thing I can say with my amp I never figured a way to turn it from back pack to sling bag.
I wouldn't carry anything tactical too if I lived in America where guns are everywhere and you have a big chance of getting a death squad called upon you. But here in Europe nobody really cares. One of the few benefits of living in a semi disarmed society.
I had the original 5.11 Rush 12 but I gave that to my brother and he uses it for hunting. To be honest, while there are some things I like about this 2.0 and having had the original Rush 12, a lot of the complaints you voiced such as the CCW pocket being mostly useless and the lack of drain holes leave me disappointed. The original seemed fine and the drain holes were something I appreciated with the bag. While this bag leaves some features from the original I like I feel like this bag is like a sequel to a movie or game that we did not need and leaves fans disappointed. While I don't regret giving my brother my old Rush 12, I was thinking of getting a new one. I got the original 5.11 Rush 12 for $100 on Amazon. 5.11 is now charging the original for $140 but they have their 2.0 for $80 on sale at the moment. I'm on a bit of a budget. Despite the flaws would the 2.0 be worth the $80? EDIT: I just finished the video. You covered the price and said it may be worth the price and LA Gear has it lower. Sorry. I should have finished before commenting.
I brought the exact same model bag, it's like walking around with a filling cabinet on ya back. (So many slip/mesh/ zipped pockets). I use it now as my weekly shopping bag, Yep I can get my weekly shopping in it (single man so don't need a lot of food etc), definitely need something better. Edit...any clues anyone ?
I had more sophisticated and expensive bags with all the bells and whistes, they were all heavier, bukly, unnecessarly complex...I bought 5.11 12 for edc. I believe water bladder section should have been designed for labtops. Rush 24 sida pockets could have beer added. Needs 4 compression straps not 2.
I've had my rush 24 for years and used it for everything. The one weakness these packs have are the clips that connect the shoulder straps together. They are the weak point where in time this pack fails.
I get your reasons why it isn’t for you but for a guy in his late twenties, I’ve been using a camping/hiking backpack from Walmart as my daily carry and while I love it, I don’t want to keep using it day in day out. It’s just not why I bought it. The CCW pocket is nice but not useful to me as I don’t carry a firearm (yet) but it’s a nice stash pocket! I’ve always wanted a Rush 12 (I don’t have a need for the 24 or 72) and this review solidified my need to get one eventually when the money is there.
Just saw this review... I did think of trying the rush series.. but where I m in Singapore, no guns or knives allowed so the CCW compartment isn't for me.... So I opted for the Direct Action Dragon Egg 25L instead.
Good Review does a RED TEAM review, push back for me. One great benefit of the discussion was I did not know the chest strap was adjustable. It came out of the box too high for me. I moved it down to the bottom, last strap and its perfect. THANKS! I love this bag, fantastic quality in my view. I also have a Rush 72 for about 3 years. I bought the Rush 12 because I am working 100% remote and so no longer need to carry to work things like water and coffee and lunch. So it was too big for around the house and day trips in the car shopping, shorter trail hiking about 3- 5 miles. As for push back on pockets I really dont have things falling out. Its very orderly. Less pockets then the 72 but I consolidated when downgrading to 12 and everything is in place. I also have an external bottle holder by OneTigris amd its great. Also I have a backpack cover by Gregory in case there is a downpour. I would never expect the bag to defend against a torrent rainfall but would expect it to defend against lit drizzle. For longer trips like a vacation I will go with my RUSH 72. QUESTION: There are 2 BIG belt Buck at the bottom of the bag where your back goes against. I am assuming it for a hip strap like the one on the Rush 72. None came with the bag so what would I buy to add the the hip level load support?
I have never been that moved by 5.11 bags. Seems to me they refine features nobody really wants and spends less effort on features people really want. That's why I bought a First Tactical (evil villain laugh for those that know the story) Half Day Specialist Pack. It has useful features that I need in a bag. I'm not a big fan of laser cut MOLLE because if you don't get it just right around curves or corners it puckers out. Good luck to the winner. Thanks for sharing, you Mighty Awesome Devil Dog. ERRAH! P. S. That's an out-effin-standing shirt you're sporting.
I think the "tactical" bags may actually have too much molle and usually the only outside compartment that is really useful is a water bottle pouch so basically you are adding more weight for nothing. Sure it's customizable but you don't really need 100 different places to put a pouch lol
I feel like calling it too tactical is funny since to me a backpack in general, no matter what it looks like, looks unprofessional. They always look like an adult that never grew up.
Truth on the laptop sleeve. It looks like if you had sunglasses in it would be even more difficult to remove a laptop. I think the solution would to either have a zipper to split that compartment open or to have the sleeve not so high up... Other than that, the admin pouch needs longer pen holders but it fits a green weenie book well.
I had been trying decide between this and the amp 24 I went with the amp.. I came across this video when searching for videos about 5.11 bags .. And now I just subscribed
Sadly I walk straight into this one myself, I had used the original Rush 12 for about 5 years everyday and it still looks like new. I saw the concealed carry addition and thought it was ideal not to carry a pistol (I live in the UK) but to carry a tactical torch and a CAT-T. What I didn't appreciate was all the compromises that had been made and 2 really poor design decisions. Straight away the omission of the radio antenna ports stood out. Then no "Rhino Skin" anti slip patches on the back and only one keeper in the admin panel. As you say the drain holes have gone. Now for the bag design. The internal laptop pouch is at the back of the bag meaning if its fully packed you can't get to your laptop. Not an issues I thought as I normally keep my laptop in the water bladder sleeve anyway. What I didn't realise was how much I relied on the the old style shock corded pocket to stop the load shifting. My biggest disappointment has been the concealed carry pocket as when the bag is full removing anything quickly from it without losing 3 layers of skin or snagging the item even with a deployment pouch is almost impossible. It just feels like change for change sake and cheaper. I went back to V1 and have given the new one to my son for Uni, while I hunt for something better.
@@scimatarpictures Not at all, with a well designed bag access should have been considered from the outset. I ended up with a Karrimor SF MODI 15. This has a contoured zip that allows access to the laptop sleeve even when packed to the gunwales. It also allows direct access to a PALS field directly above the sleeve, perfect for a CAT T without interfering with laptop extraction. Is it perfect? No. But its never going to be unless I make it myself or modify the the minor annoyances.
Love all your reviews. I'm currently on budget. So got roaring fire 30liter for get home bag and I'm using roaring fire sling bag for work. Just for going to quick store run I have redrock sling bag which is 15l.
How can it be a con that a bag that's intended to look tactical, as well being intended for a tactical use case, from a company called 5.11 Tactical, looks tactical?
I liked your review. I am not much of a tech person but I did have the previous version and I liked it for gym use. I think I could put that to good use. Thanks for your service.
Just got this bag in yesterday so I wont judge yet. I do agree with ya on the slip pocket tho. This thing is going to be my Mobile office an 90 % of the time I work for the military so the tactical look shouldn’t be an issue
Good content. Some other possibilities for you might be the AMP10 or amp12. Blackhawk Stax, or Stingray EDC. I'm partial to the amp series because of the gear sets. I like the Blackhawks because they both have the laser cut molle, low profile doesn't look tactical and the water bottles fit in the side zipper pouches fine
the Rush12 i have must be the 1.0 version. i like it a lot, but its not my everyday carry either. i sometimes carry it as a get home bag when i make short out of town trips, but usually i keep it filled with some day hiking stuff. even then its not my regular hiking bag. i did put a couple water bottle holders on the side. now it looks like a tactical rocket pack.
hello ! magnifique vidéo !! moi j'ai le rush 12 et le rush 72 et jusqu'à maintenant aucun problème voir même formidable comme sac a dos d'une très grande qualité !! A + l'ami et merci pour ton partage
They ruined a perfectly good bag by adding a stupid laptop sleeve, not everyone is taking a laptop to work with them. I love my 1.0 Rush backpack, it’s getting hard to find a good backpack without a laptop sleeve.
@@MarineX The Marine Corps was good about "one size fits all". It is why they train us to improvise, adapt and overcome. I want to reduce the improvising as much as possible in my old age. That reduces adapting and eliminates the need to overcome. Which is very welcome to my 70 year old body. lol
The bags come with the molle compatible straps, I actually like them. I use one of the straps on my moab 6 to hold a hat, small hoodie or maybe my water shoes. Nice little straps to attach small things. If I use them to attach my rush 12 and my moab 6, it needs all four straps, which is a bit much, but works well. For reference, I have had my bag for 7-8 years now and still love them.
@@chazmichaelmichaels88 I've only had my bags for a couple of years. But I do like them. I wish there was some sort of shoulder harness/waist belt to add a 3rd bag. Something along the Helikon-Tex - FoxTrot Mk2 Belt Rig that integrated with them. Helikon makes this for helping with sorting: Helikon-Tex - ESSENTIAL KITBAG. I try to break my bags down into a system: 1 day - 3 day - 7 day - i'm in a world of hurt days.
@@USMC6976 I don't know enough about bags to understand, I just wanted to say I bought 3 5.11 bags almost 10 years ago and they have not disappointed. They cost a but more back then, but so worth it. Just don't buy 5.11 boots, that was extremely disappointing.
If you want to know why they do that, just think. Who are they marketing to? Someone who genuinely thinks about the LOOK of a bag, or the fact it’s a tactical bag in general. They don’t care about your opinion they just want your money. So long as people are dumb enough to sell it they’ll keep doing it.
@justinkierspeaks Good stuff man! Interesting insights for sure
You have won sir! Name picked from a hat by my six year old. I will dm you
@@MarineX That’s awesome, thanks!
I don’t normally leave a comment. But I have to say, even though you aren’t a fan of this bag. You described the cons in a very professional way without talking crap about it. Great job!
I mean, saying it's too tactical is like saying you bought a sports car and you say it's too sporty. Bruh moment.
Highly agreed. Why buy a tactical bag from a tactical site with images of obsessive tactical MOLLE on it . Click the buy button . And then complain it's too tactical 🤣
Chuckles yep SMDH
@@travelonward1811 he didnt buy it lol yeah his content is cringe
I personally love the bag, it’s my go to bag for my daily carry. The dimensions are perfect for my smaller frame. But yes I agree. It would even be more awesome if they incorporated a dedicated water bottle pouch.
They give you a hydration compartment instead.
I’m glad that mine doesn’t have a bottle pouch. I like that it’s decently narrow in width on the back. I have a molle bottle pouch that I can add if I want my bottle outside the pack.
I added a molle water bottle pouch to mine and I love it. it's my favorite bag I've ever had.
@@demounit what molle pouch do you use?
I have the Rush 24 model. It seems that model has a lot of the features that you were wishing the 12 has. Drain holes, camel pack pocket with straw outlets. I’m sure you’ve seen the 24, but after seeing this video, I’m really glad I went with that model in lieu of the 12.
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for doing what you do 🙏🏻💪🏼🇺🇸
I've stop carrying anything that looks tactical, especially something that you have to leave in a truck, my local fire department was vandalized every truck was broken into and all the get home bags , tactical defense bags were stolen . smh 🤬 great video keep them coming 👍🏿.
Thanks much
Likewise. I carry a swiss backpack that I have modified. If you claim to be a survivalist and carry any tactical looking gear, you better reevaluate your life. You will be targeted first.
@@mnight207 lol this is why i sold mines, the rush 12 was a beast but every time i was wearing it around i got asked if i was in the military got annoying as fuck, i got it because i wanted something durable for many years to come and it looked cool to me plus it didnt have a water bottle pocket which is a must for me.
Yeah same, I switched to a vertx Gamut 2.0 in colonial blue, it has very good features and is a tactical backpack but looks more like a normal hiking backpack from the outside.
Great point, this is why I EDC Fjällräven Kånken. Nobody suspects the city hipster with a colorful cute backpack.
thanks for the video! I've seen another reviewer slide his bag from his back quickly to the front & he had super quick access to the CCW & pulled his 'fake' pistol for the review....it was pretty sweet, smooth, & very fast.....there is a buckle at the bottom of the straps that cane be undone, he quickly undid the buckle...turning into a hybrid-swing, then swung the entire bag to his frontside where it was now horizontal & he had his pistol out super fast! I was like: whoa
I used the rush 12 in double-tap for 10 years. I attached a med kit and H20 pouch. I lived out of that pack on the road. I didn't need a carry on for everyday life. I got it all in the 12. I just retired it and got the 2.0 in ranger green. Now, originally, I got double tap because at that time I thought it looked less combative. But now, it looks more combative than the ranger green. O.D., Khaki, tan packs have flooded the streets. Its normal to see those types of packs used by anyone. I switched out most of my pouches for ranger green. I like the H20 pouch handy for water, and it doubles as utility pouch. I what I really like about the 2.0 . is the concealment pocket. My tablet fits right in there. I could live without the extra padding for the laptop, but hardly a deal breaker. I had a lot of the RUSH and MOAB packs (RUSH -12 , MOAB 10, MOAB-6, All Hazards Nitro). I also had Maxpedition packs as well. The 12 and Moab 6 have served me well. I take the 12 with me everywhere.
I had this bag for a while and it's been my edc, office and gymbag. I think it's awesome.
I had Rush 12 first edition for 4 years and after I've seen the 2.0 edition with that so yearned laptop compartment from the first model and that concealed pocket I instantly ordered it and I just love this bag cause it's near perfect, no other bag comes close to this one.
I use mine for my airline carry-on. It's a good bag, but not perfect. The SOG version of the same bag (Ninja) for 1/4 the cost is just as good and it has a water bottle pocket.
The song is not as good .the quality is much different I own a rush 24 2.0 and I've seen the sog. Not close the the level of quality that's is the rush
Seems like personal issues.
i genuinely love this bag. i've had mine for a while now and it's such an amazing bag. fits in perfectly at school or the office, i love the look and never get any comments on it being too tactical or whatever. i respect your opinion and come back to this video just to look at this bag haha
I found my first gen. RUSH12 at a thrift store about three years ago and I was very happy. I do not use it for every day carry for all of the reasons you express here especially because there is one lone sinch pouch inside (besides the two zipper compartments on the clamshell. It does have the drain holes which 5.11 seemed to have pulled for this second gen. which is unfortunate. However, it has become my favorite carry on bag when traveling. I usually travel alone, and a bag like this keeps folk at a distance. Not only that; I travel carry-on only, so I can fit a lot of other gear in here while calling it my personal item and leave plenty of room in my small roller for any thing I pick up along my travels; or if I'm going some place warm, my coat will fit nicely. I found this video while searching for reviews on 5.11 luggage because I was interested in matching it up. Thanks for the thoughtful review.
Many don't realize that the Rush 12 & 24 are heavily influenced by the USGI Molle II Patrol & Assault packs. They are basically product-improved, civilized versions but the underlying concept is the same.
It's very easy to move the sternum strap. The attachment clip is a c clip, it has an opening.
Thanks for that! Now adjusted mine...
I have 5.11 72 and use and take it every where i go I keep everything in it
you can use the back hydration section for a bladder as a tablet or extra place to store.....I've tested & my 17 laptop will fit in the back, if needed
Funny, but after watching your video ( very informative video by the way)
I like it even more. Just ordered one , for me it looks perfect. Stay safe bro. ❤ from the Philippines.
I use mine like a messenger bag, phones, notebook day planner. I take it everywhere no body looks twice. My brother is a corporate type suit and tie, I got him one he Carries his to work everyday.
I don't think a bag can be considered too tactical today. many non military people are buying, and using these things. The big rip off here is this gray man stuff. They are selling you things that have less function. A bag is a bag. You can carry a weapon in anything. I'll stick with the tactical stuff. At the least I'll be able to hook extra shit to my bag if the need arises.
A bag is a bag
Wish I saw this sooner since I got on the EDC tacti-cool era when COVID first hit. Bought this bag and used it less than a handful of times. Now it used for house chores. When I need to get up to roof work on the swamp cooler, lugging up and down tools, replacing shingles etc. I have a North Face borealis as my EDC for work and play
I cannot say enough good things about the Vertx EDC. But i love it so much I want to upgrade to the Vertx Gammut, which is it's larger brother. The side zipper carry pouch is easily access able in an emergency. whether worn on one shoulder or both with quick release buckles at the bottom of each shoulder strap.
Vertx is over rated
I have read some comments and the argument is that you are putting a target on your back for having a tactical bag but in my opinion it doesn't matter because the fact that you are carrying a bag in general will put a huge target on you
I got the same bag and agree with you on the no water bottle pouch, other than that I really like the bag. But what I really like is that Binford Tools flag you got. Semper Fi brother
I love that flag lol
The ccw pouch is not an afterthought. Some people don't care for sling bags. Especialy in fay pack in the 24l size designed for a full day hike or even an oversight rece.
I personally travel for work 2 to 4 days a week doing construction. I also do kot leave home withiut at least a subcompact ccw and a couple mags. I also bring 2 gkashlights, hedlamp, first aid, leath3man saurge with all accessories, as well as a full size fized blad fi3ld knife. A bag in rhis size range is easy to grab and toss on my back while carrying all my crap into the hotel as well as being able to always have my edc gear handy.
I have 2 I love them, but I agree with the cons, I laughed when you said it's heavy when empty
That thing is long gone lol
After leaving the military I try to avoid "tactical" bags. I use an eBag when I do need to carry extra stuff. Have used them around 3-4 years. Might be worth a look
I have the gen 1 version of this. Its been used as a day sack since i got it ! For me it works because its bomb proof. Been used and abused since day one ! Nothings worn out or broken.
Same here.
I had the same issues. I settled on the 5.11 amp 12 bag. This type of bag allows me to switch up the style. It can be pricey for the attachments but it was worth it. I know the 24 is really big so the 12 was perfect.
Time to compare it to the Ready Bag by Vertx
I have the Rush Series n several sizes. Works great for hunting or camping. But EDC the AMP is a better solution.
5.11 Has so many variations of this style of bag, I would just look a little harder im sure you can find what your looking for.
This dude buys a tactical backpack then complains its too tactical and that he cant wear it as a satchel to a pride parade! 🤣 Buy a swiss gear bag if all u carrying is a laptop and video game controller bro.
I love my rush and moab bags, I have had them for almost ten years. Absolutely no complaints..
I didn't know they made a version 2 since my Gen 1 bags have worked and latest so long.
I just purchased the eldro pack, it hasn't arrived yet but I have a feeling I may regret it.
I gotta check out the MOAB
@@MarineX I think it is part of their sling bag series. The moab 6 is my current EDC, holds my medical equipment, firearm, mags, flashlight, pens, etc.
The moab 12 is a bit too large, better to go with a backpack if you want anything bigger than a moab 6.
I believe it's called the moab. Don't hold me too it though.
@@MarineX just checked, it is the moab 6. It's like a small sling pack, very good for EDC, my only complaint is it looks pretty tactical. Other than that, I have zero issues with my 5.11 bags.
@@MarineX I had a pair of 5.11 boots though, they were crap for water resistance and 5.11 wouldn't solve the issue. My 5.11 leather shoes I bought 5 years ago are great and still doing pretty well. 5.11 really let me down with their boots though.
I still got the 1st version for years as an edc😁🤗🤗
Cool bag looks like it is built to last
Probably so
I love the tactical molle. If everybody used tactical bags, then we'd all be gray men.
I agree with some of the other comments, I used to carry the 5.11, I had several of their bags, but now I carry the Vertx EDC ready pack as my EDC bag. 5.11 is super rugged, but I like the more toned down Vertx options. Nice video sir!
I just bought the Ready Pack. Haven’t put it to use yet but will in the co I got week. Love everything but the price.
Good info, I use my Rush 12 for my summer EDC, works well for my needs! I live outside Ft Campbell, so tactical look isn’t big deal here. If I travel or don’t wanna carry what I call my “shoot me first” bag, I use the Vertx EDC ready pack or Covrt 18.
Love the "shoot me first" part of your comment 😅
I own practically every 5.11 bag one thing I can say is you cant beat quality when it comes to5.11 bags. I seen cheaper bags when you leave them in the truck they will rot and tear. They offer different sizes and diffrent types to fit your needs just look around and see what you like when it comes to 5.11.;one thing I can say with my amp I never figured a way to turn it from back pack to sling bag.
So much variety but I am leaning towards the VertX line
@@MarineX nothing wrong with that all this stuff from knives to bags it is like liquor every man has a different taste. 👍👍👍
I wouldn't carry anything tactical too if I lived in America where guns are everywhere and you have a big chance of getting a death squad called upon you.
But here in Europe nobody really cares.
One of the few benefits of living in a semi disarmed society.
I had the original 5.11 Rush 12 but I gave that to my brother and he uses it for hunting.
To be honest, while there are some things I like about this 2.0 and having had the original Rush 12, a lot of the complaints you voiced such as the CCW pocket being mostly useless and the lack of drain holes leave me disappointed. The original seemed fine and the drain holes were something I appreciated with the bag. While this bag leaves some features from the original I like I feel like this bag is like a sequel to a movie or game that we did not need and leaves fans disappointed.
While I don't regret giving my brother my old Rush 12, I was thinking of getting a new one. I got the original 5.11 Rush 12 for $100 on Amazon. 5.11 is now charging the original for $140 but they have their 2.0 for $80 on sale at the moment. I'm on a bit of a budget. Despite the flaws would the 2.0 be worth the $80?
EDIT: I just finished the video. You covered the price and said it may be worth the price and LA Gear has it lower. Sorry. I should have finished before commenting.
I got the 5.11 Rush 12 Multicam backpack as edc for years now,..
I dont go greyman,... I go badass,...
Go completely badass
Same here. Just gotta have good situational awareness and don’t leave things unattended.
I use a vertx gamut 2.0 but you may like the vertx ready pack it’s a bit smaller than the gamut. But vertx has all kinds of great bags!
I brought the exact same model bag, it's like walking around with a filling cabinet on ya back. (So many slip/mesh/ zipped pockets). I use it now as my weekly shopping bag, Yep I can get my weekly shopping in it (single man so don't need a lot of food etc), definitely need something better.
Edit...any clues anyone ?
I had more sophisticated and expensive bags with all the bells and whistes, they were all heavier, bukly, unnecessarly complex...I bought 5.11 12 for edc. I believe water bladder section should have been designed for labtops. Rush 24 sida pockets could have beer added. Needs 4 compression straps not 2.
Lmao I have a 17.5 inch laptop LMAO and I was almost sold on it too
What's the knife in the thumb nail?
I need a new bag for fire dept EDC. It would be very cool if I could own this bag.
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@@MarineX shanedavvy
I've had my rush 24 for years and used it for everything. The one weakness these packs have are the clips that connect the shoulder straps together. They are the weak point where in time this pack fails.
I get your reasons why it isn’t for you but for a guy in his late twenties, I’ve been using a camping/hiking backpack from Walmart as my daily carry and while I love it, I don’t want to keep using it day in day out. It’s just not why I bought it. The CCW pocket is nice but not useful to me as I don’t carry a firearm (yet) but it’s a nice stash pocket!
I’ve always wanted a Rush 12 (I don’t have a need for the 24 or 72) and this review solidified my need to get one eventually when the money is there.
Just saw this review... I did think of trying the rush series.. but where I m in Singapore, no guns or knives allowed so the CCW compartment isn't for me.... So I opted for the Direct Action Dragon Egg 25L instead.
Good stuff man. I like your edc bag, very functional/inconspicuous 👍
Thanks! 👍
Good Review does a RED TEAM review, push back for me. One great benefit of the discussion was I did not know the chest strap was adjustable. It came out of the box too high for me. I moved it down to the bottom, last strap and its perfect. THANKS! I love this bag, fantastic quality in my view. I also have a Rush 72 for about 3 years. I bought the Rush 12 because I am working 100% remote and so no longer need to carry to work things like water and coffee and lunch. So it was too big for around the house and day trips in the car shopping, shorter trail hiking about 3- 5 miles. As for push back on pockets I really dont have things falling out. Its very orderly. Less pockets then the 72 but I consolidated when downgrading to 12 and everything is in place. I also have an external bottle holder by OneTigris amd its great. Also I have a backpack cover by Gregory in case there is a downpour. I would never expect the bag to defend against a torrent rainfall but would expect it to defend against lit drizzle. For longer trips like a vacation I will go with my RUSH 72. QUESTION: There are 2 BIG belt Buck at the bottom of the bag where your back goes against. I am assuming it for a hip strap like the one on the Rush 72. None came with the bag so what would I buy to add the the hip level load support?
I have never been that moved by 5.11 bags. Seems to me they refine features nobody really wants and spends less effort on features people really want. That's why I bought a First Tactical (evil villain laugh for those that know the story) Half Day Specialist Pack. It has useful features that I need in a bag. I'm not a big fan of laser cut MOLLE because if you don't get it just right around curves or corners it puckers out. Good luck to the winner. Thanks for sharing, you Mighty Awesome Devil Dog. ERRAH!
P. S. That's an out-effin-standing shirt you're sporting.
I stopped buying maxpedition. Now I use vanquest.
Please elaborate on the story, have not heard.
I think the "tactical" bags may actually have too much molle and usually the only outside compartment that is really useful is a water bottle pouch so basically you are adding more weight for nothing. Sure it's customizable but you don't really need 100 different places to put a pouch lol
I feel like calling it too tactical is funny since to me a backpack in general, no matter what it looks like, looks unprofessional. They always look like an adult that never grew up.
Truth on the laptop sleeve. It looks like if you had sunglasses in it would be even more difficult to remove a laptop.
I think the solution would to either have a zipper to split that compartment open or to have the sleeve not so high up...
Other than that, the admin pouch needs longer pen holders but it fits a green weenie book well.
I had been trying decide between this and the amp 24 I went with the amp.. I came across this video when searching for videos about 5.11 bags .. And now I just subscribed
Thanks much
Great video. Thanks for being so detailed on your review. I just subscribed.
No problem. Thank you
That nike shirt is legit
Just found your channel. I was looking for a good EDC bag and this was a great detailed reiew. Thank you.
First tactical taxics is way better
5.11 bags are best in da world
No
Maxpedition is BEST and the King is mystery ranch
@@RobertoMartinez-xd3gyNo likes means no respect.
My 72 is over 6lbs empty
I use this bag for the kids dippers, toys, first aid etc. Good review, new sub
Thanks much.
Military bags for EDC it put advice to a people that you carry survival and defence stuffs.
I think 511 competitors paid him for this review😅
My EDC bag is The NorthFace borealis. Look into that bag, nice in between the two you have.
Shoot me a link
Thanks for the review. Gives me some info to think about before buying.
I ended up with the maxpedition Pygmy falcon 2 cuz it has 2 water bottle holders.
Semper-Fi Brother, 2/5th In the House, RETREAT HELL! @Marine-X
Retreat Hell!!!
Great video man! Any comments on the Maxpedition Falcon 2?
Sadly I walk straight into this one myself, I had used the original Rush 12 for about 5 years everyday and it still looks like new. I saw the concealed carry addition and thought it was ideal not to carry a pistol (I live in the UK) but to carry a tactical torch and a CAT-T. What I didn't appreciate was all the compromises that had been made and 2 really poor design decisions. Straight away the omission of the radio antenna ports stood out. Then no "Rhino Skin" anti slip patches on the back and only one keeper in the admin panel. As you say the drain holes have gone.
Now for the bag design. The internal laptop pouch is at the back of the bag meaning if its fully packed you can't get to your laptop. Not an issues I thought as I normally keep my laptop in the water bladder sleeve anyway. What I didn't realise was how much I relied on the the old style shock corded pocket to stop the load shifting.
My biggest disappointment has been the concealed carry pocket as when the bag is full removing anything quickly from it without losing 3 layers of skin or snagging the item even with a deployment pouch is almost impossible.
It just feels like change for change sake and cheaper. I went back to V1 and have given the new one to my son for Uni, while I hunt for something better.
If a bag is full, it’s gonna be hard to get anything bulky like a lap top out without unpacking or rummaging slightly, this is the nature of a bag?
@@scimatarpictures Not at all, with a well designed bag access should have been considered from the outset. I ended up with a Karrimor SF MODI 15. This has a contoured zip that allows access to the laptop sleeve even when packed to the gunwales. It also allows direct access to a PALS field directly above the sleeve, perfect for a CAT T without interfering with laptop extraction. Is it perfect? No. But its never going to be unless I make it myself or modify the the minor annoyances.
Great analysis of the bag, loved the video. Send the bag my way, I will definitely make use of it.
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Love all your reviews. I'm currently on budget. So got roaring fire 30liter for get home bag and I'm using roaring fire sling bag for work. Just for going to quick store run I have redrock sling bag which is 15l.
How can it be a con that a bag that's intended to look tactical, as well being intended for a tactical use case, from a company called 5.11 Tactical, looks tactical?
Because it’s my opinion. Pretty simple
@@MarineX Alright, man, I respect it.
I liked your review. I am not much of a tech person but I did have the previous version and I liked it for gym use. I think I could put that to good use. Thanks for your service.
Glad it was helpful!
Just got this bag in yesterday so I wont judge yet. I do agree with ya on the slip pocket tho. This thing is going to be my Mobile office an 90 % of the time I work for the military so the tactical look shouldn’t be an issue
True true
Good content. Some other possibilities for you might be the AMP10 or amp12. Blackhawk Stax, or Stingray EDC. I'm partial to the amp series because of the gear sets. I like the Blackhawks because they both have the laser cut molle, low profile doesn't look tactical and the water bottles fit in the side zipper pouches fine
sadly they have discontinued the AMP series !
The for an honest review. Now I don't even need to consider it. Well done.
the Rush12 i have must be the 1.0 version. i like it a lot, but its not my everyday carry either. i sometimes carry it as a get home bag when i make short out of town trips, but usually i keep it filled with some day hiking stuff. even then its not my regular hiking bag. i did put a couple water bottle holders on the side. now it looks like a tactical rocket pack.
Cool Video 👍
Thank U for the Info and the Links 👍
No problem
that 5.11 bag looks cool.. i used to have the first version, i even think that targus bag looks nice too lol
The targus is sharp but I need a few more features
hello ! magnifique vidéo !! moi j'ai le rush 12 et le rush 72 et jusqu'à maintenant aucun problème voir même formidable comme sac a dos d'une très grande qualité !! A + l'ami et merci pour ton partage
They ruined a perfectly good bag by adding a stupid laptop sleeve, not everyone is taking a laptop to work with them. I love my 1.0 Rush backpack, it’s getting hard to find a good backpack without a laptop sleeve.
Or kangaroo 🦘 holy shit that’s hilarious
Thanks!!
If you don’t want a tactical every day bag, don’t buy a tactical every day bag🤦🏾♂️
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@@MarineXGood point.
The bag comes with compression straps that you can put where ever you want. They hook into the molle webbing
Thanks for great video. Can this bag carry safety 30 lbs cast iron ruck plate for rucking?
5.11 Rush packs are designed to work with an additional sling bag. The Rush sling bag can be attached to any rush pack to be worn as part of the pack.
That system requires so many straps. Probably why TAG beat them out for Marine Corps bags
@@MarineX The Marine Corps was good about "one size fits all". It is why they train us to improvise, adapt and overcome. I want to reduce the improvising as much as possible in my old age. That reduces adapting and eliminates the need to overcome. Which is very welcome to my 70 year old body. lol
The bags come with the molle compatible straps, I actually like them. I use one of the straps on my moab 6 to hold a hat, small hoodie or maybe my water shoes. Nice little straps to attach small things. If I use them to attach my rush 12 and my moab 6, it needs all four straps, which is a bit much, but works well. For reference, I have had my bag for 7-8 years now and still love them.
@@chazmichaelmichaels88 I've only had my bags for a couple of years. But I do like them. I wish there was some sort of shoulder harness/waist belt to add a 3rd bag. Something along the Helikon-Tex - FoxTrot Mk2 Belt Rig that integrated with them. Helikon makes this for helping with sorting: Helikon-Tex - ESSENTIAL KITBAG. I try to break my bags down into a system: 1 day - 3 day - 7 day - i'm in a world of hurt days.
@@USMC6976 I don't know enough about bags to understand, I just wanted to say I bought 3 5.11 bags almost 10 years ago and they have not disappointed. They cost a but more back then, but so worth it. Just don't buy 5.11 boots, that was extremely disappointing.
good choice of drink sir
The miltec large assault backpack is enough. Cheap and durable. 💣
I need to check that out
I want to know what knife that was in the thumbnail
This is the knife amzn.to/3DN48vc
It is heavy coz its 1050D nylon, If u want light weight get something 500D Duh..
you say it has no water pouch area? it is the zipper on the back rest
Outside water area is my goal. If I misspoke, noted
@@MarineX ah thought you were talking about a water bladder my bad
I really love you’re Chanel
I use a Vertx Last Call Pack. Works perfectly for EDC 🤙🏼
Because of this message I snagged a Vertx bag. More to come
good review, Devil Dog
Good pros and cons video sir
I don’t have Instagram or social media. But I’ve enjoyed your videos. Thanks.
No worries!
What is the knife in the thumbnail
If you want to know why they do that, just think. Who are they marketing to? Someone who genuinely thinks about the LOOK of a bag, or the fact it’s a tactical bag in general. They don’t care about your opinion they just want your money. So long as people are dumb enough to sell it they’ll keep doing it.
True true