Devil For A Father: Kojima's METAL GEAR & Nietzsche
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0:00 - Prelude
0:43 - I (or, MGS & Nietzsche in conversation)
8:59 - II (or, "The Primordial Fact of All History")
10:36 - III (or, "Fatherlands")
12:53 - IV: Masters & Slaves (or, "Morality" & "Civilization")
24:18 - V (or, "Life")
27:06 - VI: The Slaves' Revolt (or, The "First Interesting Human Event")
45:37 - VII (or, "Equality")
1:05:02 - Concluding Remarks
1:07:54 - Credits & Post-Credits Quote
"Facts do not exist. There are only interpretations."
With this beguiling quote, Hideo Kojima's METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN ended not with a whimper, but a bang. Yet this was not the first MGS game to bear the considerable influence of the 19th Century's pre-eminent "posthumous" philosopher, Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.
Join Jorin Lee of Futurasound Productions in this, part one of two in an electronic virtual essay series on the close, diamond-strength bonds between Nietzsche and Metal Gear.
"Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) was a German philosopher and cultural critic who published intensively in the 1870s and 1880s. He is famous for uncompromising criticisms of traditional European morality and religion, as well as of conventional philosophical ideas and social and political pieties associated with modernity. Many of these criticisms rely on psychological diagnoses that expose false consciousness infecting people’s received ideas; for that reason, he is often associated with a group of late modern thinkers (including Marx and Freud) who advanced a “hermeneutics of suspicion” against traditional values (see Foucault [1964] 1990, Ricoeur [1965] 1970, Leiter 2004). Nietzsche also used his psychological analyses to support original theories about the nature of the self and provocative proposals suggesting new values that he thought would promote cultural renewal and improve social and psychological life by comparison to life under the traditional values he criticized."
plato.stanford.edu/entries/ni... - Ігри
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Yes. I can imagine him giving a brilliant speech about all of the hidden meaning kojima puts into his game only for kojima to just say, “uh yeah I totally thought all of that through”.
That action alone would be something kojima would do.
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I love how rich with philosophy the MGS series. Kinda why it's my favorite 😊
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Astounding work. Can't wait for part 2
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Very interesting concept and philosophical perspective!! Well done my friend.
What a great video, thank you for your work, boss.
Nice video Mr Lee. Unfortunately my attention has always escaped Metal Gear but you remind me of its greatness
THIS IS LEGIT ONE OF THE GREATEST VIDEOS OF UA-cam VIDEO... ITS GONNA TAKE DECADES FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS THESIS IS
"Why did you disguise yourself as Master?" is a really fun line considering Liquid is the "weaker" clone.
I don't think it's ever stated as "canon" that he is in fact inferior in any way. He says and believes so himself but so what, he's not exactly the best source.
Plus recessive genes don't necessarily have to be weaker I'd guess.
@@iWillWakeYouUp He's not. Liquid was always the superior clone, but he was told he was inferior. It's amusing in the sense that he believes that and is being accused of disguising himself as a Master when the reality is much closer to the reverse - Liquid was always a Master but was told his whole life he was a Slave.
@@BobLogicalLiquid’s entire life consisted of hate and revenge, only for his reasons to be hateful are false.
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Mgs has been my number 1 series since I first played it on playstation 1. I just started reading Nietzsche about a month ago and this video dropped at the perfect time for me. Very interesting.
I really enjoyed this! You made Metal Gear so clear! The game, the story, THE LIFE
Nice work as always
I absolutely love that you make virtual essays on a series so beloved to my heart growing up as a kid and into my adult years. Thank you for helping me along my journey of returning to these games to see what I can interpret now that I'm older with a different brain. Gonna send this to all my friends who are fans. 💙
Exceptional Quality of work my man. Really enjoy rediscovering the MGS World.
Your best video ever. Hands down.
Love it my dude.
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Futurasound video= my day made better
100th! XD Anyway, having studied much in the way of philosophy myself, I'm so proud to be one of your Patreons.
Good work Boss
Oh no. I found this too soon. I have to wait for part 2? And yet, here we are striving toward understanding while traveling together through time. What a joy it can be to be alive.
Dude this is like the most interesting video game based thought provoker in the known universe, and I would seriously be worried about you and your metal health if it was so damned entertaining. This is good stuff right here.
Good work Boss.Mission complete
You and Vaatividya need to do a Nietzsche in Media video between MGS, Soulsborne and Berserk. This is top notch!
Vaati has Nietzsche stuff? I'd personally nominate Max Darret!
@@807D14M0ND5 I can’t believe I forgot him! Add him to the list too!!
@@nhlcbj more the merrier!
@@807D14M0ND5 plus realiferyan and the masked man for berserk. This is turning into a full blown symposium o_O
@@nhlcbj Nietzschean philosophy will be instrumental in how our generation chooses to move forward.
Good timing, I am in the middle of reading Thus Spoke Zararhustra
How am I not subscribed yet? Am now. Thanks for the great Metal Gear content. It's something that's always been at the back of my mind and fascinated me. You tell me why and break it down in ways I've never been able to. It feels liberating.
Nietzsche is one of my favorite philosophers and MGS series too, i alredy read beyond good and evil, the origin of tragedy and human too human and his wisdom is belittled. I appreciate videos like this and this is a good one.
Amazing.
Jorin Lee, where's the Death Stranding part 2 video?
Thank you for keeping a series I love ALIVE.
Part 2 here we come!
I would love to hear your take on Fumito Ueda's works. I love the thought provoking essay's thank you
Yeah, wow, even a single video on his work from Futura would be great!
What is the funky song that is used as a transition between part V and VI?
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Fantastic
The closing remarks were so good. Thank you Boss. Now do Carl Jung and Metal Gear :P
Very Good channel, keep doing,
Food for thought 👍👍
brilliant
Are you familiar with the John leCarre novels? You could do a comparison between MGS and the Smiley books. They also cover the topic of spies knowing they're tools of governments, not knowing what they're fighting for. And the cold war leaders being more interested in securing power than in propagating their ideologies they claim to be worth fighting for. I'm not saying Kojima has read them but it would be quite a coincidence if he hasn't.
Revolver Ocelot: You're pretty good
Nietszche: I'm above good. I'm Übermensch
Where can I find the history of philosophy inforgraphic at 8:00?
Thanks!
I wonder if Kojima put as much philosophical thought into Metal Gear as essay creators on UA-cam. Interesting video. Congrats.
Think a little harder, I promise you’ll figure it out one day.
@@donniedarko2815 vague nonsense babble that only serves to make you feel superior
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@@DiiizyTheFool You don't like [piece of fiction], what does that have to do with me?
@@mistadopeyy im just saying its ironic that your saying hes over analyzing considering you have a pfp from berserk, an anime known for many people over analyzing its plot and themes to "make you feel superior." Something I'm familiar with considering I love berserk lmao.
You deserve a knighthood for this!
I adore all your content, but this is one of my most revisited thing on UA-cam.
Thankyou so much for everything you gift on here, but this video is a diamond!
You dance to the same dogma in life as myself.
Its so soothing to have such intelligent dissertation put towards all thesis that I am addictively interested in.
Would not to able to cope without you sometimes!
This is dogshit. This guy wouldn’t be able to tell a passage from Nietzsche from something in Kingdom Hearts.
@@matthewphillips465
I appreciate your comment for taking time to reply with your opinion but I must say what you said isn't very Nietzsche.
This Content creator is one of my favourites on all of UA-cam for all the extensive effort that he puts into his written video essays.
I understand you may have some discrepancies towards this particular video but you could have been more diplomatic in your reasons.
Kingdoms hearts is such a cheap shot, come on dude you can do better than that 😘❤️xxx
pretty good
WHAT AMBITION. And very smart, immediately addressing the Nietzsche effect haha
51:03 that's it! That's the line!
You can't run from yourself forever. - Ocelot
I instantly mentally cut to him doing his ocelot salute after losing his liquid brainwashing.
29:45. What Book?! What Page?!?
Do a video on portable ops
"That's patricide!"
"Yup."
I simple man. I see Metal Gear. I like.
So happy to wake up to a new essay!! Gonna enjoy my coffee to this one. Would love some kind of inspirational big boss speech compilation. Not asking for that, probably already exists.
37:27 for Nietzsche Will to Power is completely distinct from self preservation.
For him a well working, confident person or animal will choose uncertainty and potential danger rather than to live comfortably in a prison where his basic needs are reliably met but he has no choice how to conduct himself, and his captor ultimately has to power to control his life or death.
Nice
I feel like everything has been leading up to this...
5:00 it is not Metal Gear?? so either title misleading or I missed something? If the title would be "...Kojima & Niche", then it would be fine, but now it is confusing.
I want to show this to a classroom
9:49
*insert Peace Walker gameplay here*
Playing mgs2 as my first mgs i questioned who i was playing alot n in turn questioned who am i
Who are you?
@@theceoofcrackcocaineandamp9477 im no hero..only heroes i know are asleep, or doing overtime
@@mikepanda117 okay that was a good answer, you may not be a hero, but you’re a wise enough man that I don’t think you’re a villainous person, but I could be wrong, but that was a deep enough answer that has me questioning myself through you questioning yourself, and that’s probably a good enough sign that you’re a useful human being with your keen insight. And now I’m questioning if there really is such a thing as a hero, universally? Or just the archetype in our collective unconscious that we strive for and sometimes label people’s actions as heroic? You’re a deep fella to find on UA-cam at 3am lmao, but then again this is a philosophical metal gear solid video.
Watching this with a concussion from falling down 15 stairs in self induced delirium after talking to people I imagined were there, just came to flex that and also listen even though I cannot access my memory so this entire comment is self referring to the start of the comment and also the video. Nice video dude.
fitting name hope youre alright boss
@@lunarluxe9832 oh yeah I’m better than ever now thank you though, although I have no memory of making this comment.
hi you help us to deepen our understanding of this masterpiece and help us find the Connections thanks Boss
yo was the art for this thumbnail made by jxthics?? i’m mutuals with him on tumblr/twitter!
I personally don't think his style fits this series. No doubt he is a talented artist but his work is not appealing at all to me.
Another amazing video essay!
But if you'll permit one piece of criticism: I found the use of the phrase "missing link" around 25:00 faulty. Scientists aren't debating over what is or isn't the so-called missing link, as it is a pseudo-scientific term that implies that there was one critical step in hominid evolution that lead to humans. Rather, the consensus of scientists is that each discovered species in another link in the chain, there's no clear line between humans and other apes.
Here I found the treasure!
That's why you're the best, boss
The one and only
I've moaned and complained about not 110% agreeing with everything. But this series must go on. It's the best series you've done so far IMO!!! Screw the number of likes/views, this video series must be finished!!!!!
I would like to have that thumbnail
Good is not tied to evil. You’re missing one of the key arguments and themes of his works, the contrast between moralities centered around “Good and Evil” and those centered around “Good and Bad”.
1:02:44 ding ding ding
Futurasound Production of Metal gear = Vaati Vidya of Soulsborne...
who made the art in your thumbnail please credit them : (
I'm not a big fan of Nietzsche, but this was a great analysis.
You forgot his essay called "Nietzsche contra Wagner" which was written in "his final year of lucidity".
And the will to power is a manuscript. As it's the book he never intended on publishing. Especially considering it was written after his "final year of lucidity". His sister got it published after his death.
I think he was right as people have become a shell of themselves...
I’m actually pretty shocked you haven’t done a mgsv series on the Soviets in Afghanistan ( or have you already and I’m missing it?)
Also, it’d be great to look into these: mgsv in Angola/Zaire, a look into how much of Kojima politics align with the Shinzo Abe party ( more generally pin Down where he fits within Japanese society and the influence that Japanese politics/culture had on Japanese creators similar to Kojima like Mamoru Oshii, Katsuhiro Otomo), anarchism in the metal gear series, marxism/dialectical materialism and mgs, Kojima and anti totalitarianism vs marxism Leninism and global capitalism( which you sprinkled throughout many videos already). Maybe Hegel and mgs?
It's been brought up here and there, but I don't think there's been a full video yet. Closest is probably in the video on Afghanistan in the history and culture of MGSV locations series.
I think his videos about MGSV’s tapes discusses that in an episode, & the cutscene analysis series discussed it a bit as well I believe.
@@christopherlowery3797 yeah, I know he touches on it but Kojima picking Afghanistan while the United States was ( is?) still there brought a lot to the Meta narrative of the game that deserves almost its own series even.
@@BobLogical he needs to dive in deep on that one since playing as someone being attacked by the Soviets in the game strongly alludes to the u.s. occupation there. Kojima is big on the anti totalitarian shtick and draws criticism to both but with one being more relevant than the other. I think Konami might have cut him off for going too far into innocuous political critique like that. Seems plausible at least
Kojima despises Nietzsche, for the inherit fact that his "philosophy" only works to empower the aristocrats and ring motivation for Walmart employees. Kojima put "Here's to you" in his games TWICE, an anti-war and anti-corruption song that used to be blasted at protests during the flower-power movement. You project way too much of yourself onto Kojima, thus you totally get him wrong. Making a mistake (as we all do) is normal, but to publish an hour long video and being wrong for every second is pitiful. I like Metal Gear content, hence I owe it to you to give honest feedback. Good luck. I suggest studying Russian philosophy, Miyazaki, Kurosawa, and Kojima get much of their world views from there.
Facts do not exist, only interpretations
@@FuturasoundProductions Maths and the rules of physics work on every star in this universe.
Some things are not debatable as much as some people want to to not have their world views damaged.
Could you elaborate a bit further which Russian Philosophy you mean? Would be great.
55:41 yes. The Morality of Mores. The elevation of merely being seen as moral by the community /mores/ [morays] to the point of an absolute morality.
Also the idea that Christianity shapes scientific ideas of psychology to the point where meekness becomes seen as somehow objectively good by scientists who don’t realize how much their so called objectivity is still in the shadow of the Christian god.
“Seasoned Explorer of Pessimism” lol
11:50 "Big boss (was your father)?! I had no idea."
Naomi, shut up. You had every idea.
59:57 Nietzsche doesn’t think selfish thinking is going to create the last man, he think selfish thinking is essential to will to power, to the noble virtues. It is an obsession with communalism, fear of being reprimanded by the heard, lack of deeply held beliefs, and overall repulsion by the living world that creates the last man.
Aight saving this til im high af. This the conetnt I wanna se UA-cam!!
18:05 AmOgUs ?!
101:50 Nietzsche is not philosophically concerned with the survival of humanity other than as a vehicle for the eventual arrival of the Übermensch.
Nietzsche the father of the mullet hair style.
Do you think it’s possible that Kojima gave Snake a mullet for this very reason? I think it’s worth pondering.
Mullets we’re in style all the way back to the 1300s, my dude.
@@21scavage my family have had mullets as far back as we’ve been around, my ancestors invented the mullet, my ancestors improved and perfected the mullet into visual poetry, the missing link between gods and apes. Mullet gear...
Oh-hoh 😍
A Hind-D?!
Only after these analisis you can truly understand the meaning behind these series… Kojima warning us of the “patriots”and how future generations trues will be manipulated and changed
I need to go pick up The Will To Power again, haven't read it since HS/early college.
Not worth it, it's not a legitimate text.
18:06 click for sus
Watch Ricky gervis on a conversation between Nietzsche, and hitler
I attempted to hit like and accidentally hit dislike, youtube said “feedback shared with the creator” and now I’m concerned because this was the greatest video essay I’ve watched in months