Live sound Snake setup - how to use an audio Snake
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- In this video, we will show you our live sound Snake setup and how to use an audio snake for your live gigs! You don't need to be a full sound company to benefit from this inexpensive and extremely useful tool for live sound.
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We hope you enjoy this video which focuses on using a cable snake for a live performance. Please let us know if we can be of service to you for your next live event! As always, definitely share this video with family and friends, and don't forget to like, comment and subscribe below!
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:17 - Tracklist & Stage Diagram
0:36 - Snake Placement (on stage)
1:15 - Setting Up the Mixer
2:10 - Micing Drums
3:02 - Final Setup Overview
3:41 - Band Performance
3:50 - Outro
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Dear Sir, you demo is great. I have a confusing thing on guitar amplifier. Normal we use external microphone to catch the sound from guitar amplifier.
Can't we use headphone output of the amplifier to fix directly to the mixer???? What is the next option? Any additional out put from amplifier instead headphone?? Thanks
The audio quality from a cheap/basic/built-in headphone preamplifier is typically not suitable to be routed to the Mixer Input to be mixed & amplified for the context of FOH, not to mention with impedance mismatch issues...
If the guitar has Line/Mix-Out you can try those. Likewise some models do have a Pre-Out & Amp-In LOOP, that too can be manipulated...
Better guitar amplifier do have some DI-Out built in. Use that to connect to the Mixer.
Or you can invest in an DI Box which sits in between your Guitar Output and the Guitar Amplifier. This DI Box BAL signal can then be routed to the Mixer.
Also to mention that some higher end FX-Pedal do have DI-Out and/or LineOut too...
Perfect, no bullshit talk or annoying background music, just straight to the fucking point. Two thumbs up guys, very informative and helpful
Thanks so much John - we’re so glad you enjoyed our video! Hope you enjoy the others on our channel as well!
So that's how to use it, thanks!
My pleasure!
Thank you, I have so much to learn, so quickly.
..love the qsc,,they sound great..yu guys did amazing job on the setup..
Love watching a pro do their thing
Thanks so much Joe!
Thank you!!
My pleasure! So glad you enjoyed our video. Don’t forget to subscribe (if you haven’t done so already) for more sound videos and tutorials - have a great day!
Exellent
Thanks so much Stephen! Have you seen any of our other sound videos?
this helped a lot 👍 ty
My pleasure AirlineFud!
Have you seen our newest video entitled “Monitor Mixing for Morons”?
I'm surprised That crazy editing with so many jump cuts didn't put people off watching the video
the reason is that the video acomplished its goal as presented in the title, a broad idea of how to clean up the stage setup.
Very Informative brother.
Thank you so much! Have you seen our mic shootout?
haha cute video outro monologue
Ha - thanks so much!
Dear Sir, your all demonstrations are pretty great and sounds congratulations!!!
I am a beginner on electric guitar. When I fixed my guitar to amplifier there is a big hum ( ground loop).But if I touch strings then hum will fade away. The problem is that the power cable is a fixed one to the amplifier and it doesn't have a ground pin to connect to the 3 phase power socket. Only 2 pins plug. So have can I kill the hum???? thanks
Wonderfully blessed video!!! God bless u all! Like and Sub
Awesome thanks so much! We’re so excited to have you as a subscriber!
These Snakes are good except they don't bite. Which is a good thing imo
Ha - agreed!
3:19 my only thoughts is maybe one speaker each side could've been on the subs.
Speaker stands are such an eye sore and why column arrays make stages look so clean.
I definitely hear that - great suggestion!
Ahh, live performances and setup just a quaint month or so before COVID-19. Simpler times.
Indeed they were
Congrats. I have a question. My church bought a snack of 12 channels wiith 4 returns XLR , could I put the sub on it. If yes, how do to it? Thank you in advance
I want to know how to set up a mixing decks
Dear Sir, your demonstration is great. I have an unclear point about Parametric EQ and Graphic EQ. Always we use Graphic equalizer to eliminate feedback. But we don't use parametric EQ to treat feedback in professional way for live band. Can you explain the point???
You can optimize feedback-notching by incorporating pEQ with narrower bandwidth(high Q) to precisely remove offending freqencies...👍
Dear Sir, I have a puzzle on sound waves transformation between mic and our ear.
When we sing to the mic, it converts acoustic transverse sound waves to electrical signal. Then it goes to the Mixer, Amplifier and finally comes to the speaker. Then speaker converts it back into acoustic sound waves.
Then sound waves come to our ear and make vibratings on our ear drum. Then ear drum's nerves transform physical vibrations into a electrical signals which carry to the brain.
I wish to know that, the electrical signal which is generated by mic and our ear is same in voltage????? Or different????
Mic generates elecrical signal on concept of electromagnetic induction.
But our ear generates electrical signal in different way from mic.
Do both electrical signals ( from mic and ear) are same in wave form???? And Voltage????
If you can explain briefly.
Sorry for a long question!!!!
Thanks!!!!!
Dear Sir, I have an unclear point about 1/4 inch input jack connectors in mixing console. I want to know that whether we're can plug TS or TRS jacks? I need to clear out that these input are always mono????
If the 1/4 inch input connectors are mono, how can we plug stereo jack( if we need to fix a keyboard how can we use one channel??? Or need to use 2 channels to get the stereo picture???) I haven't seen plenty stereo inputs in console in general.
They are indeed TRS, but for balanced audio, not for stereo.
Dear Sir, I want to know that about mastert fader position of the mixer. Should we need to bring the master fader always to unity gain( 0db) for live sound and recording???
When we bring the mastert fader to unity, Can't we change the position????
How can we set up the volume control of Amplifier according to mastert fader position????
Is there any rule???
Thanks!!
Not really. You should get away from that word “always”. It really depends on many factors, most important of which is how it sounds!
Dear Sir, I need to know l that when we use AUX sends to stage monitors, should we use TS (mono) or TRS ( stereo) quarter inch jack? Is AUX send is a mono or stereo output
For AUX sends, you would use TS cables (either XLR or 1/4"), depending on the outputs of your snake. AUX outs are generally mono, but you can use two of them to create an L/R stereo mix.
Stereo is not Balanced and Mono is not Unbalaned...😅
Aux Send typically is a BALANCED OUT with use of a 1/4" TRS phone plugs.
If a 1/4" TS is used instead, it becomes a UNBALANCED connection.
To choose between a BAL or UNBAL connection, it depends on the distance of the next piece of equipment eg. active powered stage monitors or PowerAmplifier.
It also depends if the attached equipment fully support BAL Inputs...
On the other hand, Auxes generally run in Mono(1 channel of Audio). However you could cleverly create a Stereo-Mix with Two(2) Aux Sends...
Dear Sir, I want know that, when we set the GAIN for Vocal and all Instruments, should we get the volume level indicator to unity gain (0db green bulb) always????? For all mics, guitars, drums????
Great question. Unfortunately, you may not love my answer. There is really no always in live sound. It all really depends on so many factors (volume, room size, room materials, number of mics and instruments on stage, monitoring, etc.). In general, leave a little more headroom than you think you need, as people often play louder throughout the night than they did at sound check...hope that helps!
@@ShirSoulMusic Thanks for your reply and advice
Dear Sir, how do you do? I have an unclear point on Limiter ( Peak Stop). I need to know how can I adjust the Limiter in Standard way for live sound???,
Is there any rule ?? That mean the amount of volume or decible???
Thanks
Gentle on the Limiters with live sound...
I’m wanting to install some inputs on the floor of a stage permanently. How would I do this. I’m quite new to audio set ups
Thanks so much for reaching out, Jason! Sounds like a fairly simple thing to do, all you would need is a snake like the one we used in this video (make sure you have enough length to cover the distance for your room). Then, all you would need to do is run the snake along a wall or under the floorboards, and secure the stage box in place with screws at your desired position. If you'd like, we provided a link to OUR snake in the description of this video. Let me know if you have any additional questions, and good luck!
Is there a delay by connecting the far speaker to the "D" return on the snake box?
What if the snake is about 100 ft long?
Shouldn’t be any audio delay. XLR cables can run for many hundreds of feet without any issues.
Can i plug in the output to aux from the snake cable? Cause i want to have different monitor for vox only so im thinking aux
Yes, any aux output would work to deliver a separate mix for the singers.
We call the same thing The Octopus
Ha!
Hey bro's so our church got renovated and one of the guys did the set up. I had a look and my question. is it possible to send a signal from the bord to the amp then from the amp through the snake return then to the speker it a first i seen it that way. So is it possible 🤔
Great question, Onio! I'm not sure exactly why you want to do this, but it sounds like it is doable. All you would need to do is run a cable from the board to the main speaker, then another cable from the out of the main speaker back to an input on the snake, and then you could control that "thru" on a different channel on your board. I assume you wanted to do this to mix the direct signal with an amplified signal to create a more "blended" sound in your mix, but I'd love to hear directly from you!
Not all Analog Snake capable/possible accepting Speaker Level signals thru them...
Is that what are you trying to do?😁
Or I missed something?😅
Hi, I bought a 16 channel stage box. I tested the 16 channels putting them in my Soundcraft Ui 24 mixer and they all work fine, but and it brings 4 red cables that say ABCD I'm guessing = Returns: XLR Female Connectors and I don't know what are those for or how to use them? any help, please? Thanks
Yes those do sound like returns.
You can route any outputs to it (mains, aux outs, sub outs, etc.)
Dear Sir, thanks for your advisable explanations!!!!
I asked one question from so many sound professionals but nobody able to give an answer to that question.
This is the question: The all chanel faders strips have been labelled as -15, -10, -5,0+5,+10 db. I need to know what does it mean by - 15 and +15 db????? Specially - and + signs???
Why do they mention only between -15 and +15 db?????
Someone told me that it is so complicated to understand. Is it true??????
Thanks!!!
It’s not difficult to explain/understand. 0 dB means the sound that is coming in (to the channel - mic/line, etc.) is not being boosted or cut at all. +5 dB means that the sound is being boosted by 5 decibels (making it sound louder). -10 dB means that it is being cut (reduced) by 10 dB (making it that much softer. It’s fairly simple. Those numbers indicate how much louder or softer you are making the sounds from their original source level. Hope that helps!
@@ShirSoulMusic @Attaway Audio That's the thing. Your explanation is greate!!!!. Now I understood. Thanks a lot!!!!
My pleasure - glad I could help!
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Hello can we use it on Professional recording studio ? thanks
Yes you sure can - it’ll make your setup neater, cleaner and less cluttered as well!
@@ShirSoulMusic thanks
Dear Sir…….
Lol bad joke, sorry ;) But I do have a question:
with only 4 aux sends on the snake, does that mean if I’m using A and B for my mains, and C for the sub, that I’m only left with one (D) option for a stage wedge type monitor mix? Our drummer certainly isn’t going to want the same mix as my singers’…..I guess I could daisy-chain my mains, and free up aux B…but that seems lame :/
Or maybe I just get some 50’ xlr’s and don’t run the mains off the snake? Almost defeats the purpose
Yes. If you need more than that, you could always get more outputs on your audio snake.
I've always daisy-chained my stage monitors (wedges) on my 4-send snake. So A & B are for the Left & Right mains, C is for the sub, and D is daisy-chained for the two 1/4" stage wedges. I've never really had a problem, since I've never really needed to balance the stage monitors. But I agree, this solution is a little lame.
Dear Sir, I want to know how can I use Stage Snake Cable???? And from where to where it is going on stage? Please explain briefly!
The snake goes from the ins on the back of your mixer to the stage box which you generally place on stage. It’s basically a long extension cord for audio cables (helps you to keep all your cables relatively short on stage). Does that help?
@@ShirSoulMusic Thanks for your reply
Please ...I see a little box connected to the mics what are they?
Its called snake cord
Where do I buy a TRS snake box, I have a crap ton of TRS to XLR converter adaptors and would rather use a TRS snake box.
Try Sweetwater
How to hook your smart phone to your stage snake's
Noted - sounds like a great idea for a video!
She whine now just do the suspension bro I hope she hold up cuz that would be the problem is I guess they were not heavy enough for that pressure and speed and some crazy ass cars
Give me a ring bro that may help you bro that lightweight Android and them car get slippery
I like Christian.
We do too - thanks Jesse (remember your sound video with us? ua-cam.com/video/QaNeFAdUkyY/v-deo.html. Good times!)
no bass?
I think the keyboardist was playing left-hand bass that night
could u do a tutorial for secular set up, non jew?
Sure, but how would it be different?
Here’s another setup we did:
ua-cam.com/video/elwlImxA5GQ/v-deo.html
@@ShirSoulMusic rofl im just joking man, great job. Thanks for showing me how the snake works, I ordered one yesterday without knowing much about it.
Awesome - did you order it from the link in our video description? Just curious.
@@ShirSoulMusic no unfortunately I didn't find this video until I sought out instruction of their use after I had already bought one.
Ah got it. You can always check our affiliate links in our video descriptions for all the products we use in our videos. Which snake did you buy?
All that gear and knowledge, then you go and forget Christians lav mic.........
Great point - we didn’t have lav mics then, but we do now! Have you seen some of our newer sound videos like this one: ua-cam.com/video/Jta8AwmYuLI/v-deo.html