*One important difference in specification are the different radius heights of the six saddles. Whereas the **_Original Floyd_** has a combined radius of 305mm, which is basically 12", the **_Gotoh_** has a radius of 350mm, which is just a hair over 13 3/4". As most modern instruments with a Floyd have a radius of 16" or more, whether over the entire fingerboard, or at the upper end of compound radius fingerboards, the flatter radius of the **_Gotoh_** would probably match modern fingerboards better. (Why they don't use a 16", or 406.4mm, radius, I don't know.) When Floyd Rose the Man invented his famous trem decades ago, the guitars that he initially intended them to be installed on were the **_Fender Strats_** of the era, which generally had a more curved radius of 12", and even on vintage instruments that had very curved fingerboards of 7 1/2".*
I prefer the Gotoh over an OFR. The little details like rounded saddles with a satin finish feel more comfortable in my hand. The trem bar sits at a different angle than the stock Floyd Rose. It seems to angle up slightly higher than the Floyd bar which I find more comfioratable and easier to grab while also giving you more clearance from the strings when dive bombing.
Hi Craig, Thank you for your comments. Your point of view may be very helpful to anyone who’s “on the fence” about the Gotoh tremolo. I really like them as well. Rock on Craig!
I currently eyeing on Jackson's MJ Series Soloist SL2 which has Gotoh GE1996T, & planning to swap it with FRT200 (familiarity reason). Will it be a drop-in swap sir? Or the different width, & different post diameter will be needing some alteration sir?
Great question! You should be fine. according to what I’ve read, they both have a post center distance of 74 mm. The FR has an overall width of 90mm and the 1996t is 91.5 mm which will give you a little clearance with the FR. .5mm is just over 19 thousandths of an inch. I imagine visually, the difference would not be noticeable at all.
Hi, As you I swapped FR Special on Schalller Lockmeister in my Fender Strat Player. I gave the FR Special to my friend to his project before I mounted the Lockmeister in my Fender. And I don't remember how it looked like earlier with FR, but with Lockmeister I have little space between tremolo block and guitar body, what gives little tremolo range, when I want push up the whammy bar. So are you sure that the FR Special has the same dimensions as Lockmeister ? Maybe you know where is the problem and how can I fix it ? Or maybe this guitar has this problem also with FR Special and I did't see this before ?Thank you in advance.
Hi, The sustain blocks come in different heights: 33mm, 37mm, and 42mm. You may need a shorter one. I believe the player Strat takes a 33mm sustain block.
@@primaltone9064Thank you for your feedback. I don't think so, that it depends from height of sustain block. Could you send me photo without springs cover how it looks like in your guitar ?
Hi , would a 42 mm steel block be okay for a Floyd rose 1000 ? I just ordered a steel block from alienX .. supposed to be a kick Ass block . Just hoping it works well on my modified 84Krammer .
42mm represents the distance from the bottom plate of your tremolo. A thicker block doesn’t usually pose a problem. However the height is pretty important. I would double check the block you’re replacing and verify that one is 42mm high.@@satchrules101
Yeah, I appreciate the information. This isn't something you see much of. I have gotohs on most of my guitars and have a couple of ofr1000s. They are fine. I think I prefer the gotoh. Fine unit. One thing that wasn't mentioned is that the gotoh has keeper screws in the block that clamp the spring ends in place.
Hi Eric, I’m glad you liked the content. I was not aware of the keeper screws. Mine didn’t have the keeper screws but I do see where they’d go. They will be getting installed. Thank you for contributing to the channel. That is great information.
Hi Magnus, To me, height wise, they feel pretty similar. However, the Gotoh when set floating, seems to be a little spongier but not in a bad way. Rock on!
That's annoying that Gotoh introduced an incompatibility in trem arms between the two systems. I think the best value Floyd style trem is the Schaller branded system. They make the OFRs anyway. People are still getting confused between OFRs and 1000s I see reading the comments
The only difference between the OFR and 1000 Series is where it’s made. The FR website is a great source for information about the products and their construction and materials as they have it all laid out. The Korean 1000 Series is made with the old tooling from Schaller , Schaller got new CNC machines to produce the OFR and its parts. I understand some people have an issue with the 1000 saying the fine tuners don’t turn as smoothly as the original… I’ve not experienced that but if people will take and use just a drop of 3&1 oil on those fine tuners and run them in and out, they’ll operate perfectly… then just wipe the access away… when I bought a FRS to see what all the fuss was about with the knife edges… I put a little 3&1 oil on the post… no problems no matter how hard you push or pull on it, I do the same for all my OFRs and 1000s.
@@Ikillintel1 The story now is originals aren't even made in Germany anymore. They are prohibited from having the words "made in Germany" on them now. They obviously aren't made there anymore.. since it's not made in Germany anymore, you can't put "made in Germany" on them anymore. All of the originals now are prohibited from having those words on them.
Hi Chris, I don’t have any personal experience with swapping those two. From what I’ve read, the saddle radius differs. The Gotoh has a 12” radius and the Edge has a 16” radius which makes the Edge flatter. Also, the stud spacing is 73mm on the Edge and 74mm on the Gotoh. I believe the rout might also need to be modified. It is not a drop in situation.
The Lo Pro Edge is the best trem ever made. It came on the Jem there is no better trem for this guitar. If troubles replace with the same. Anything else would be a downgrade
Hi el ultimo, That’s a great question! It is not drop in fit. I don’t believe the posts are the same center distance from one to the other. Also, it may need a recess to achieve the desired string height. I hope that helps.
@@Galacticgospel. I wasn't the one who did it, it was my local luthier, so i can't explain it properly for you. The instalation varies from guitar to guitar, measurements are needed, took him a while, but its defenetly possible
I have an original. I think it's great, but i think the gotoh may feel better. Hard to say. It looks nicer. But the floyd 1984 is hard to beat. Eddie got the first floyd, schon, and Brad Gillis. But if you to hear the real Eddie, not that pathetic solo from live without a net listen to this from 1984 tour, using the 1984 trem. Best live eddie solo ever. He was peaking. ua-cam.com/video/qlXoCXNIKn4/v-deo.htmlsi=jem6nvQNp_31y986
*One important difference in specification are the different radius heights of the six saddles. Whereas the **_Original Floyd_** has a combined radius of 305mm, which is basically 12", the **_Gotoh_** has a radius of 350mm, which is just a hair over 13 3/4". As most modern instruments with a Floyd have a radius of 16" or more, whether over the entire fingerboard, or at the upper end of compound radius fingerboards, the flatter radius of the **_Gotoh_** would probably match modern fingerboards better. (Why they don't use a 16", or 406.4mm, radius, I don't know.) When Floyd Rose the Man invented his famous trem decades ago, the guitars that he initially intended them to be installed on were the **_Fender Strats_** of the era, which generally had a more curved radius of 12", and even on vintage instruments that had very curved fingerboards of 7 1/2".*
Thank you John. That’s a good point and good information.
Wow. That is a Great Point. I’m definitely going to have to research this. Thanks 🙂
Schaller has more variation to buy.
GE1996T "SPECIALLY PROCESSED Steel Saddle" - G-GOTOH
I'm so satisfied with GOTOH GE1996T
I prefer the Gotoh over an OFR. The little details like rounded saddles with a satin finish feel more comfortable in my hand. The trem bar sits at a different angle than the stock Floyd Rose. It seems to angle up slightly higher than the Floyd bar which I find more comfioratable and easier to grab while also giving you more clearance from the strings when dive bombing.
Hi Craig,
Thank you for your comments. Your point of view may be very helpful to anyone who’s “on the fence” about the Gotoh tremolo. I really like them as well.
Rock on Craig!
I currently eyeing on Jackson's MJ Series Soloist SL2 which has Gotoh GE1996T, & planning to swap it with FRT200 (familiarity reason). Will it be a drop-in swap sir? Or the different width, & different post diameter will be needing some alteration sir?
Great question!
You should be fine.
according to what I’ve read, they both have a post center distance of 74 mm. The FR has an overall width of 90mm and the 1996t is 91.5 mm which will give you a little clearance with the FR. .5mm is just over 19 thousandths of an inch. I imagine visually, the difference would not be noticeable at all.
@@primaltone9064 That's a relief. 🙏🏻 thank you very much good sir
Ive had both...
Personally prefer the Gotoh
I see on the floyd the overall string spacing is 54mm from low E to high E. Is it the same on the Gotoh? Thanks
Great question! Yes. The Gotoh 1996t is also 54mm.
Hi, As you I swapped FR Special on Schalller Lockmeister in my Fender Strat Player. I gave the FR Special to my friend to his project before I mounted the Lockmeister in my Fender. And I don't remember how it looked like earlier with FR, but with Lockmeister I have little space between tremolo block and guitar body, what gives little tremolo range, when I want push up the whammy bar. So are you sure that the FR Special has the same dimensions as Lockmeister ? Maybe you know where is the problem and how can I fix it ? Or maybe this guitar has this problem also with FR Special and I did't see this before ?Thank you in advance.
Hi, The sustain blocks come in different heights: 33mm, 37mm, and 42mm. You may need a shorter one.
I believe the player Strat takes a 33mm sustain block.
@@primaltone9064Thank you for your feedback. I don't think so, that it depends from height of sustain block. Could you send me photo without springs cover how it looks like in your guitar ?
Hi Mateusz, I will send you some pics over this weekend as I am not at home this week. Thanks for supporting the channel!
Hi , would a 42 mm steel block be okay for a Floyd rose 1000 ? I just ordered a steel block from alienX .. supposed to be a kick Ass block . Just hoping it works well on my modified 84Krammer .
42mm represents the distance from the bottom plate of your tremolo.
A thicker block doesn’t usually pose a problem. However the height is pretty important. I would double check the block you’re replacing and verify that one is 42mm high.@@satchrules101
Nice job bro! Great explanation!
Glad you liked it!
Yeah, I appreciate the information. This isn't something you see much of. I have gotohs on most of my guitars and have a couple of ofr1000s. They are fine. I think I prefer the gotoh. Fine unit. One thing that wasn't mentioned is that the gotoh has keeper screws in the block that clamp the spring ends in place.
Hi Eric,
I’m glad you liked the content.
I was not aware of the keeper screws.
Mine didn’t have the keeper screws but I do see where they’d go.
They will be getting installed.
Thank you for contributing to the channel. That is great information.
Does the Gotoh feel lower profile than the OFR due to the angle on the fine tuners?
Hi Magnus,
To me, height wise, they feel pretty similar.
However, the Gotoh when set floating, seems to be a little spongier but not in a bad way.
Rock on!
That's annoying that Gotoh introduced an incompatibility in trem arms between the two systems. I think the best value Floyd style trem is the Schaller branded system. They make the OFRs anyway. People are still getting confused between OFRs and 1000s I see reading the comments
The only difference between the OFR and 1000 Series is where it’s made. The FR website is a great source for information about the products and their construction and materials as they have it all laid out.
The Korean 1000 Series is made with the old tooling from Schaller , Schaller got new CNC machines to produce the OFR and its parts.
I understand some people have an issue with the 1000 saying the fine tuners don’t turn as smoothly as the original… I’ve not experienced that but if people will take and use just a drop of 3&1 oil on those fine tuners and run them in and out, they’ll operate perfectly… then just wipe the access away… when I bought a FRS to see what all the fuss was about with the knife edges… I put a little 3&1 oil on the post… no problems no matter how hard you push or pull on it, I do the same for all my OFRs and 1000s.
@@Ikillintel1 The story now is originals aren't even made in Germany anymore. They are prohibited from having the words "made in Germany" on them now. They obviously aren't made there anymore.. since it's not made in Germany anymore, you can't put "made in Germany" on them anymore. All of the originals now are prohibited from having those words on them.
Do you know if this would fit into an Ibanez Jem that currently has a lo pro Edge?
Hi Chris,
I don’t have any personal experience with swapping those two.
From what I’ve read, the saddle radius differs.
The Gotoh has a 12” radius and the Edge has a 16” radius which makes the Edge flatter.
Also, the stud spacing is 73mm on the Edge and 74mm on the Gotoh.
I believe the rout might also need to be modified.
It is not a drop in situation.
The Lo Pro Edge is the best trem ever made. It came on the Jem there is no better trem for this guitar. If troubles replace with the same. Anything else would be a downgrade
The Gotoh would rather fit on Entry level 555 or Junior JEMS but not on the high end ones equipped with Edge or Lopro Edge
I'll go with the gotoh1996t here. The only other that can compete is the schaller floyd rose trem.
I think i need the gotoh for my rg 550. Your voice sounds alot like mr black's.
The Gotohs are nice.
Who is Mr. Black?
Why would you replace the original edge trem on the RG550??? The Edge trem is one of the best trems you can get!
@These_go_to_eleven_1959 because I cannot find one.
@@krumple4skin548 Because you cannot find one??? Find what???
I Asked why you are replacing the original edge that is on the RG550 now?
@These_go_to_eleven_1959 whoops. It's making a sound cracking noise then going out of tune when you dive bomb
can you fit a Goth on a Strat?
Hi el ultimo,
That’s a great question!
It is not drop in fit. I don’t believe the posts are the same center distance from one to the other.
Also, it may need a recess to achieve the desired string height.
I hope that helps.
I just did, needed to re adjust many aspects of the guitar but it fits perfectly
@@Lati22 could you perhaps explain how to do it?
@@Galacticgospel. I wasn't the one who did it, it was my local luthier, so i can't explain it properly for you. The instalation varies from guitar to guitar, measurements are needed, took him a while, but its defenetly possible
@@Lati22 thank you
I have an original. I think it's great, but i think the gotoh may feel better. Hard to say. It looks nicer. But the floyd 1984 is hard to beat. Eddie got the first floyd, schon, and Brad Gillis. But if you to hear the real Eddie, not that pathetic solo from live without a net listen to this from 1984 tour, using the 1984 trem. Best live eddie solo ever. He was peaking. ua-cam.com/video/qlXoCXNIKn4/v-deo.htmlsi=jem6nvQNp_31y986
Thanks for contributing Bruce!
Thanks! 👍🏻