Thanks for the Review....I will say Ive never understood how this knife garnered a bushcraft following. Indestructible, yes....bushcrafty? No. Our knives are heat treated to 55-57HRC and as a few have pointed out, this knife was developed to allow pilots to cut themselves out of a downed aircraft. It is a tank with steep grinds and essentially a sharpened pry bar, which is what we were asked to develop by some SERE folks. I personally don't own this knife as I prefer the thinner options in our line for more bushcrafty and normal use. Hopefully our fan boys will take it easy on you guys and an ESEE does NOT end up embedded in anyones plural cavity! LoL....We appreciate what you do and do NOT shy away from negative feedback....we are working and moving forward as a company....I can say that with absolute confidence and I am looking forward to what 2019 and beyond has in store for ESEE. Keep up the good work guys!
This is what I love about you guys. Honesty, not afraid of feedback and keeping it nice! As we said in the video you guys are awesome people! Your explanation here makes total sense! The esee is indeed a crowbar with an edge and that's where it shines. It takes a crazy amount of beating. There is no perfect tool, only the right tool for the job. The esee 5 is not for bushcraft but did get a large following there. We hope to talk to you guys in the future on the podcast about your thoughts and what it was designed for. Again! We really appreciate you guys reacting to this in such a positive manner. Huge respect from us to you all. Looking forward to see what 2019 has to offer!
Cant wait to get myself the 6 this christmas lol... Or the junglas 2... Or both. Should have looked into it more before I bought the 5, love it but it just doesnt camp as well as my 4 and I want the 6 now..
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Good review. I have a bk2 and tested it against a friend's ESEE 5....BK2 all day long. I also have an ESEE 6, it dulls faster than any knife I have (vg1, vg10, s30v, 154cm...etc,etc). BUT, I have done things to the ESEE 6 that are down right cruel and ridiculous. The ESEE 6 has never snapped, chipped or broken in anyway. I'm certain every other knife I have would be toast. It's redeeming quality is indestructability.
1095 is objectively just not that good, lol. It's not even very tough. It's soft, it loses it's edge super fast, yet somehow it's still relatively brittle for what it is. 3v or even just 5160 or 52100 is such an obvious upgrade that a knife this expensive really needs to get.
The three fixed blades I use outdoors are in D2, N690 and 1095 (1095 being my Esee Laser Strike); and, yes, the 1095 is dulling fastest out of the three, no question. But: The edge retention improved a lot after sharpening the knife a few times. So I guess the factory edge is especially bad concerning edge holding? Maybe due to the heat of the grinders used for the initial sharpening? Just a guess, I am not an expert by any means
Awesome video. I agree with you. When it comes to knives, especially a survival/Bush craft knife, is always better to save your money and go with a knife you can trust with your life on the line. I have fallkniven and bark river knives and they are both amazing companies so I agree with your recommendations guys.
Good Job guys!! My experience is the same as yours. I "jumped in the ESSEE 5 Band Wagon" a few years ago and i was very disappointed with the knife, I found the coating was a deterrent in feather sticking and carving, the coating chipped in multiple places after just one outing to test the knife , the edge go dull very quickly , the edge angle is so steep is odd to sharpen. Given I was told by "somebody whom apparently knows better then me" that this knife was designed for military purposes as "SERE" Purposes ( Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape ) and it was meant to be like a "72 hr use" and then discard.... The BK2...much better knife all departments, just my personal experience. And I agree with you guys, i cannot recommend it, I don't even know why it is so popular. Cheers.
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I'm saving up for a bravo 1, that'll take a long time tho. ay just asking, what do you guys think is the best stainless steel and also best handle design? I'm trying to design a knife to make myself but can't decide on what to settle on.
Mate thats a great choice! For the steel: we really love Cos steel but since that's hard to obtain: go for elmax! Great great steel. And then for the handle comfort the bark river bravo one, gunny handles are the most comfortable! Good luck mate! Cheers
The only ESEE I could ever get on board with is the Junglas. Good ergos, nice sheath, great chopper. Everything else is over priced and hyped up. I agree with DBK for a good bushcraft knife get a Bark River in CPM 3V in any model you like. Excellent ergos, heirloom quality.
Similar to any 1095 knife, they hold and edge for a while but are easy to sharpen back up. If you are buying a 1095 knife this is what you get.@@devonsanterre8449
Ontario's 1095 seems to be stronger, I've noticed that theirs retains an edge longer than most 1095 from other more expensive knife manufacturers. Just my experience with 1095 HC steel knives from different brands.
In my humble opinion, the best bark river knife made that will handle everything but real chopping( carry a small camp axe) is the Aurora LT in A2. Thick enough for bushcraft, thin enough for food prep, skinning, and fish cleaning. Easy field sharpening when it needs some touch up. NOT a fan of Esee. Love the BK 5, 7, and 9. (Bk5 no longer produced) They hold an edge really well and are also easily sharpened.
Great vid as always guys, I was thinking in bying the ESEE 5, now I dont think so, I have the BK2 and it still rock as hell, your the best, keep on going mattes 👍😉💪👊😎🇵🇹
Its definately not, I bought one for camp and it splits wood like an animal but its not designed for camp at all... Unless you have to cut your way in and out of your camper lol
@@umbalaba got a mora, i have a vast collection of good knives. Overall my favourite is the British army survival knife. It is a beast, the blade is 7 inches long and 6mm thick. It is the easiest knife to sharpen in my collection yet it holds the edge for a long time of usage. The phosphate coating lasts a long time but it was a pain when mirror polishing the cheek of the blade. Overall it is the best knife for the money, may come a tad blunt from factory, but if you can't sharpen it you don't deserve it. Plus it must be the coolest knife around. I have more expensive knives, but this one could challenge its son the bk2, or an a1 pro.
@@umbalaba they are not the most well-finnished knives but that was the sacrifice to keep the cost down for the British army, they did not skimp on the materials or forging though so it is a really solid knife.
hi guys what a sincere test, we dont want to hear marketing shit if knife isnt as good as it should be for the price. i have one but it starts to rust because it no more goes into the bush, for the same weight a small axe is much better. you should do a comparison (chopping and batonning - for the rest with such big knife or axe we always take a small knife !)
I really wanted to like RAT/ESEE back in the day owning the Izula, 3, 4, & 6 and now they are all sold off. I did not like the knives finding them very overpriced for the 1095 & horrible ergonomics. Good honest assessment on your part. Thank you.
The old style handles were horrible to the hands. For sure. I sold them all also. But the new ones with the 3D handles look very comfortable. But the prices ... not too wallet friendly. Bark River I do not trust. Had bad experiences with them. Bravo 1 and 2 severe edge rolling from just a bit of chopping of pine wood. The heat treat was worse than sh.t. Also overpriced. A knife is just a tool. Not someting i get a hardon from.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 Not at all. I just did not care for the 3 or 4, too thin and I despise choils. The 6 was like a squared off block to me in the hand. Just my opinion. I bought them and then sold them all. Not my "type" of knife and I just did not buy into all of the hype. For me the Fallkniven F1 has been perfect for my needs and never looked back again. To each their own. Good luck with your choices.
@@Ve-suvius It's not a heat treatment issue per se, Bark River has been known in the past to violently power grind and then cold quench their knives which produces steel that tends the fail in the manner in which you experienced. Bark River was also told about this and their answer was basically that they knew what they were doing and stfu.
@@masgrey9608 I have the hm 6 which has a very nice handle and the junglas and izula with the square handles and they are fine in hand. The only realy thing I'd change about them is to give them a tapered tang because their handles are really heavy. Higher performance grind would also be nice but that's a problem common to most knife companies.
The ESEE 5 is a beast, it isn't meant for camping/bushcrafting, it is meant to help you get out of a very bad situation that I hope nobody finds themselves in. This knife is designed to get you out of a downed aircraft (if you even survive that) and then give you some options for surviving after that. I have used mine for splitting wood and get a fire started but I have no experience using it to cut through the aluminum fuselage of an aircraft and hope I never do :)
I own a esee junglas and have put it through more abuse than you could imagine. I can tell you guys right now that you got a bad blade. Handle shape and fire steel aside, there is no way it should chip, dull and have its coating come off like that. Esee is known for how good their 1095 is, it's almost bizarre how good they can get it. I know you can only judge a knife by what you have in front of you, as such I really respect your honesty and integrity in giving us this review. Keep up the good work, I'll be watching.
I was about to purchase a ESEE but thanks to DBK I rethought my in investment. I will now be either getting a Mora Garberg or other silimar knife. Thanks guys!
There are dozens of videos showing how excellent & versatile the esee 5 is. The "will taylor" video makes bushcraft look easy with the esee 5. If you take what the "Dutch Bushcraft" blessed boys say seriously then you need help.
Hahaha I love how people get personally invested in things as though it were a part of them. They feel personally attacked when something they like is criticized like it actually makes them less of a person. Personal opinion doesn't matter, if they like it and it works for them then goon on 'em but they don't need to convince the world they're right to justify their opinion.
Its called INSECURITY, INFERIORITY COMPLEX, FRAGILE EGO.... weakness of the heart and mind. interesting how many macho tough guys have these traits. for narcissists, "things" associated with their personal lives (hobbies, work, friends, family, interests, geographic residence, values, beliefs etc) become "extensions" of their ego. don't tell them there is anything wrong with themselves or anything or anyone they like love or believe in or now u r their enemy. REAL MEN CAN BE SHOWN THEY ARE WRONG AND DON'T THREATEN INTIMIDATE OR ASSAULT THOSE WHO SHOW IT TO THEM!!!!
Use that broken tip to strike your firesteel 😜. The editing on these videos must take forever!! Thank you for all of your hard work. Esse scales turn me off from them, but they sure have a cult following!
I dont get why they temper the blade to so low hrc 1095 should be able to handle 59-60 hrc just fine. still i think they should Use better steel. The knive is supppsed to be a Military survival knive and it isnt even rust resistant and the protective coating is bad .if you want a good stainless steel that also ist pretty tough i would take rwl34/cpm154 or cpm s35vn at 59-60 hrc. I think that would work just fine or am I completely wrong?let me know.
Im so glad i did not buy that knife. It had so many good reviews, so i seriously considered it. Bought i Fallkniven A1 instead. Do you have any plans to review the Norwegian Sami knife: Samekniven, by Strømeng?
Wow there is the proof! And it confirmed many of my thoughts. So many people swear by this knife. I looked at them and found they were a little expensive for a 1095 production knife and I didnt like the handles. Flat handles always give me a hotspot in my hand so I passed. I still would like to try one though but not for that price.
I agree. I have found ESEE knives to be uncomfortable, soft, and all around disappointing. They cost a lot for really basic steel and slab scales. Like the boys say: save up a little more and get a Bark River.
Bryan Marsh While BRKT can produce a decent knife they also produce a lot of defective product but sell it anyway so be aware of this well documented fact. Also, be prepared to sharpen it at least 4 times to remove the damaged apex steel from dry grinding during stock removal...this goes for almost all knife companies. If dry grinding is used then edges are most definitely burnt and damaged. This is scientifically proven. I own a few of their knives but I will no longer support the company, buy their product, or recommend them due to the amount of highly defective knives that get out in the public and are sold as “premium quality”, and the outright lies the owner tells (sells) to people. Any knife maker can make you a similar/same custom knife for much less.
My knife came blunt out of the box . I convexed the edge , now it's good for splitting. It cannot carve or fetter stick . I advise one to bye a small hatchet instead . Cheers
MD Chaika I have the grizzly and aside from the absurd bevel geometry it seems to be a good knife, although far too thick. I’ve since reprofiled it to about 12° per side with a tiny micro bevel at about 17° per side giving a total of about a 34° apex. I’m thinking of thinning the whole blade to around 3mm.
Great video and review. I own 2 ESEE blades , both the 4-5 and though they dull fast, and don't slice well- I can honestly say that they will get the job done. Maybe not fine feather sticking but enough to get a fire going, will cut , prepare meat, will dig and pry and if you put a 90' degree spine on them they will throw spark. Not a knife that I would call a Bushcraft but a survival knife- Yes. Easy to sharpen, easy to fix if chipped. Just my 2 cents....lol. Anyways, Bark River if you want slicy , own 2 of them as well.
Yea ... But it gives its wearer a sense of daring do and tactical prowess as they check themselves in the mirror prior to getting into their vehicle and driving off to the woods for an hour of white-knuckle survival training. (It performs much better when you take advantage of the MOLLE-back-sheath/pouch/tin 'system upgrade' options .... Available in bad-ass Black for urban preppers, or OD-Green for wilderness survival enthusiasts).
I don't know if you have done it already, but could you make a video about de mora classic n°2? I'd really love to see that video. You guys are just amazing!
Great to see some ESEE after all this time. 😀 It's not a bushcrafter so no surprise at your findings. I've never seen that kind of edge damage on mine though; you guys taking edge lessons from survival Lily? *Throwing tomatoes* Thank you!
Esse knives are overrated as hell I owned a 6 known as "the best knife ever made" and got the same chip playing around with some wood sticks in my back yard before I got it I read about how people accidently hit rocks etc and the edge was still good which I know now is bullshit
Awesome video...funny too. But can you help me and let me know if you recommend any of the EESE line? I was thinking of getting either the EESE 5 or EESE 6 and now I have second thoughts. What do you recommend that is best for the same price that has the best steel for bushcrafting, food processing, etc?
Wow just looked at the price of the ESEE 5.. nearly 200 british pounds on knives and tools if you want it with a sheath.. would rather take a shit in my hands and clap..
Interesting stuff guys... We know Esee and Kabar are reputable companies, that make good knives, and furthermore they stand behind products. However, the E-5 and the BK2 are more ingress/egress tools for rescue and survival. They have no bushcraft panache whatsoever, and of course this is not their wrecking crew virtue. You guys are spot on --- this is an urban or man-made construct demolition/survival genre. The E3 E4 E6 have better geometry for woods or wilderness tasks. In companion mode: the E3 piggybacked to a Junglass is one heck of a pair. The BK9 all-arounder I find much more wilderness useful than the BK-2. PS - sure would like to get my hands on that Benchmade PUUKKO.
I've been using the Esee 5 for many years and have had similar issues with the blade dulling rather quick, but thats why I bring a field sharpener and a strop with me... and as you guys know, 1095 is easy to sharpen. I keep it mainly for heavy duty prying type tasks. I agree 100% about the handles, which is why I bought much better ergonomic g-10 scales from TheKnifeConnection.net... they make a world of difference. As well, I have a few Esee knives and the factory edge has never been that great... so first thing I always do is put my own better edge on it. That said, the Becker bk2 has always performed better for me than the Esee 5. Though very similar, the Becker is made from a better steel 1095 cro-van (aka 0170-6 or 50110B). I do have several super steel knives that I use as well (cpm 3v and Z-Wear PM) which I absolutely love, but there is something about this simple steels used by Becker, TOPS, and Esee that just feels so great in the hand. Anyway, love the video... couldn't help laughing my ass off! And can't wait to see the next week video showdown between the BK2 and the Esee 5.
Hope we won't let you down! But yea man we can agree on your comment! It was also shocking to find out about how big the angle was that they sharpened the knife too. So eventually it took me a real long time to sharpen it but then again, this might just be taste! Thanks for commenting legend!
Pls check out the "mora garberg-killer", the Terävä Jäkääripuuko. This is like the "little brother" of the Skrama and I would be very happy to see what you are thinking about it.
I once had to cut the oil drain hose on a large generator with my ESEE Izula II. I had to use quite a bit of force to get through it in tight quarters. Once I got half way through it the resistance dropped about 80%, I lost my control and cut a small channel in the concrete and RAMMED my top into the steel support beam. Here was about a 1/16” section of the edge that had the tiniest roll on it and the tip was still splinter removing sharp. After spending maybe 20 seconds dressing the rolled edge, everything was fine.
A very true video...Had you also had the knife for more than a few days you would have noticed how very easily it RUSTS only great thing about this knife is its sheet but you can't use sheet to survive
Esee 5 was my first “bushcraft knife” and now hilariously I discover that it isn’t 😂😂😂 my second one was a Becker BK-2 and my third one the Morakniv Garberg full Tang Carbon steel. And now I’m waiting for a fallkniven S1X and Benchmade Puukko... so basically the BK-2 was my first bushcraft knife... lol
One thing I’ve observed in our classes is that people normally show up with BIG KNIVES. As their skills increase the size of the knife gets smaller and smaller.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE Cody Lundin all the way. Mors Kochanski also.. Axe machete and short knife (saw). That's it. For most of these guys, those in the video as well, knives are a near fetish. Have nothing to do with using it in real life. It's just the cool factor.
Great video. ESEE has a it's place among survival knifes, but they look like they're made by and for robots to me and don't have a place in my collection. Thanks for being willing to slam a popular knife. I've always appreciated your guys knife sense.
It's a heavy duty survival knife that you can sharpen on a river rock if needed and not break. Check out JoeX's destruction testing videos he hates Fallkniven because they break so easily. The Esse 5 has many handle options as well. Remember the harder the steel and higher the Rockwell the more easily it will snap in half. The harder steel may hold an edge longer though. I'll take a soft steel that bends before a hard steel that shatters in a survival situation and that is what the Esse5 was designed for. Thanks 👍
Knifes are not made to be destroid or bashet agaings steel i have my fallkniven in to go Bag Hunt vhit it defende Whit it putet tru hell and its fine my advice have a knife that sut you and you love
You didn't talk about the striking element on the base. It has a window smasher. A beefy one that might have some fighting applications. It's clearly more tactical than Bush craft. And it also comes in 3d handles now.
You guys are absolute right. It’s not a bad knife per se, and in a survival situation I would be glad to have it but it is vastly surpassed by any Bark River Bravo. I have a Bravo Vortex and have not used my ESEE 6 since I bought it.
The esee-5 is the first knife I held that I had an emotional connection with. That being said, after holding a fallkniven A1, I sold my esee-5 shortly after. The handle sucks a fat one.
Hi Mikkie B and Marioelisabethantoniosomething... Please let me, being securely anonymous from the mad Esse enthusiasts, express the though that the most amazing thing is that at this terrifying level of hardness, or maybe I shouldn't use word "hardness" in this case, so at softness of 55-56 HRC, because that's how Mr. Rowen hardens this steel, the edge still chips... That's sad. ;-)
projekctx I bought one Esee, the Bolieu; and it chipped and rolled on soft pine. lol I reshaped the bevel and resharpened it and it’s a bit better but quite underwhelming overall. Esee give 1095 a bad name as it truly is a great steel.
Just bought an Esee 4 and it has a bevel like a cold chisel. Will take some work to get an edge on it, then I can test the edge. A good looking knife none the less and have some hopes for it once I get a new bevel on it.
I have an ESEE 6 and I have found the same issues as DBK has with the ESEE 5..... but in my defence it was my first knife and I was grabbed by the hype of the advertisements 😀
Is Lilly’s product better? And if it is, and by only one digit, she has to get a thumbs up. I trust you guys to be fair. I think the aus8 is a better choice because of corrosion resistance. And how many female tool designers do you see out there? She deserves a chance.
TPHVICTIMS Lilly’s knife is based off of Cold Steel’s SRK (which she’s stated is her favorite knife in previous videos). I like AUS8 as a pocket knife steel (I EDC an Ontario Rat 1 folder and use it heavily in the woods) but for a fixed blade knife, I find it to be on the soft side for doing heavy tasks.
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@@buddhamack1491 not really... the Bk2 is a thick .25" and 5.25" long while the BK7 is .188" thick and 7" long. They perform very VERY differently. And the same goes for the BK9
Couldn't agree more. I customized my BK7 with a file, sandpaper and a needle and thread for the sheeth. Took me hours to carefully remove the third notch on the thumb ramp and custom fit the handle. Now I have a killer tool/weapon in a compact package that completely solves my big knife need without extra expense. Great bonding experience.
@@johnnyra2437 Fair enough, I've never used the BK7 myself but I have a chopper similar in size and have compared it against my brother's BK2. I just know that the boys aren't much into larger knives so they don't buy a lot to test so it's unlikely we'll see it.
Buddha Mack I sold my BK7 to finance a Bark River Bravo Vortex. I don’t regret it at all. Bark Rivers are far superior and only a little more expensive.
Thank you for redoing this review. I have knives that I have made out of 1095 and they dont dull like this. To me it seems like this isnt a Bush crafting knife like you guys said, but I also think it would be better with a better heat treat. I dont understand how this knife dulls that easily, as I said I make knives out of 1095 and just about a month ago I used one of them to chop through a 4 inch log out at my shack. The knife was still able to shave hair off of my arm, I used another knife I've made to cut frozen meat, using a hammer to pound it through the knife could still shave and cut paper and took no damage to the spine either. It seems like maybe they need to work on their tempering process, but what the hell do I know I'm just a hobby knife maker who has only made about a dozen knives.
This is the Rowen's heat treat idea. The priority is to make the blade unbreakable in order to give a lifetime warranty, rather than achieve performing edge. That's why they're heat treated so low - 55-56 HRC.
Owen Wellspring yeah it technically is, because the edge isn't as fine, and there is more backing it up. There is plenty of knives out there with way better value than this esee.
Owen Wellspring you know what’s even better for edge retention? Having a knife at a Rockwell suitable for a knife, not a jungle machete Rockwell. (64hrc for example would be superior)
I have followed RAT through to Esee, OKC and all that. I have been a fan of the company but the facts of your review stand. No love lost here keep up the honest, good work. Truth is different grinds, coatings, steel choices, handle materials all serve different purposes. I don't expect any knife to do it all but I expected this knife to survive at the very least a good batoning . I have hammered much thinner and cheaper knives through all sorts of wood in all conditions and have never seen that poor level of performance.
Thanks for the Review....I will say Ive never understood how this knife garnered a bushcraft following. Indestructible, yes....bushcrafty? No. Our knives are heat treated to 55-57HRC and as a few have pointed out, this knife was developed to allow pilots to cut themselves out of a downed aircraft. It is a tank with steep grinds and essentially a sharpened pry bar, which is what we were asked to develop by some SERE folks. I personally don't own this knife as I prefer the thinner options in our line for more bushcrafty and normal use. Hopefully our fan boys will take it easy on you guys and an ESEE does NOT end up embedded in anyones plural cavity! LoL....We appreciate what you do and do NOT shy away from negative feedback....we are working and moving forward as a company....I can say that with absolute confidence and I am looking forward to what 2019 and beyond has in store for ESEE. Keep up the good work guys!
This is what I love about you guys. Honesty, not afraid of feedback and keeping it nice! As we said in the video you guys are awesome people! Your explanation here makes total sense! The esee is indeed a crowbar with an edge and that's where it shines. It takes a crazy amount of beating. There is no perfect tool, only the right tool for the job. The esee 5 is not for bushcraft but did get a large following there. We hope to talk to you guys in the future on the podcast about your thoughts and what it was designed for.
Again! We really appreciate you guys reacting to this in such a positive manner. Huge respect from us to you all. Looking forward to see what 2019 has to offer!
@@DutchBushcraftKnives no worries man....we appreciate the coverage and conversation.....all the best.
@Nicholas Ovel haha thanks a lot
@@DutchBushcraftKnives I'll be danged. They commented. And with true class. See that's why I like your company. Good people.
Cant wait to get myself the 6 this christmas lol... Or the junglas 2... Or both. Should have looked into it more before I bought the 5, love it but it just doesnt camp as well as my 4 and I want the 6 now..
Beat the crap out of an Esee and if it breaks they send you a new one. No questions asked. Love them
Don't be worried guys you are still the best
Out of all my fixed blades which is around 30-40. I love my Esee 5 more than all the rest.
I had no idea Beavis and Butthead were doing knife reviews these days. This is awesome 😂😂
Great video as always. Stay true to yourselves. Some knives you won't like. It's all good.
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Good review. I have a bk2 and tested it against a friend's ESEE 5....BK2 all day long. I also have an ESEE 6, it dulls faster than any knife I have (vg1, vg10, s30v, 154cm...etc,etc). BUT, I have done things to the ESEE 6 that are down right cruel and ridiculous. The ESEE 6 has never snapped, chipped or broken in anyway. I'm certain every other knife I have would be toast. It's redeeming quality is indestructability.
1095 is objectively just not that good, lol. It's not even very tough. It's soft, it loses it's edge super fast, yet somehow it's still relatively brittle for what it is.
3v or even just 5160 or 52100 is such an obvious upgrade that a knife this expensive really needs to get.
The three fixed blades I use outdoors are in D2, N690 and 1095 (1095 being my Esee Laser Strike); and, yes, the 1095 is dulling fastest out of the three, no question.
But: The edge retention improved a lot after sharpening the knife a few times. So I guess the factory edge is especially bad concerning edge holding? Maybe due to the heat of the grinders used for the initial sharpening? Just a guess, I am not an expert by any means
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finally an objective review
Honest reviews are best reviews!
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Awesome video. I agree with you. When it comes to knives, especially a survival/Bush craft knife, is always better to save your money and go with a knife you can trust with your life on the line. I have fallkniven and bark river knives and they are both amazing companies so I agree with your recommendations guys.
Good Job guys!!
My experience is the same as yours. I "jumped in the ESSEE 5 Band Wagon" a few years ago and i was very disappointed with the knife, I found the coating was a deterrent in feather sticking
and carving, the coating chipped in multiple places after just one outing to test the knife , the edge go dull very quickly , the edge angle is so steep is odd to sharpen.
Given I was told by "somebody whom apparently knows better then me" that this knife was designed for military purposes as "SERE" Purposes ( Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape ) and it was meant to be like a "72 hr use" and then discard....
The BK2...much better knife all departments, just my personal experience.
And I agree with you guys, i cannot recommend it, I don't even know why it is so popular.
Cheers.
I ground the coating off mine 🤷🏻♂️
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Heh.... mikkiebigdick...
@@nataliewitkowski913 Mikkie doesn't have one. he just is a big dick. It's what i've heard at least....
I'm saving up for a bravo 1, that'll take a long time tho.
ay just asking, what do you guys think is the best stainless steel and also best handle design?
I'm trying to design a knife to make myself but can't decide on what to settle on.
Mate thats a great choice!
For the steel: we really love Cos steel but since that's hard to obtain: go for elmax! Great great steel. And then for the handle comfort the bark river bravo one, gunny handles are the most comfortable! Good luck mate! Cheers
@@DutchBushcraftKnives Thanks man! Keep up the great work!
The only ESEE I could ever get on board with is the Junglas. Good ergos, nice sheath, great chopper. Everything else is over priced and hyped up. I agree with DBK for a good bushcraft knife get a Bark River in CPM 3V in any model you like. Excellent ergos, heirloom quality.
Can't wait for that Esee 5 vs. BK2/BK22 shoot out. I've been looking for a comparison quite a while now so... Thanks guys. And keep it up!
I carry the BK 2 on my side everyday at work.
I’ve had a few Esee’s and sadly, it’s true. They lose there edge faster than any other knives I’ve owned. Great, honest video gents.
They also only take 2 minutes to sharpen to shaving sharp
Similar to any 1095 knife, they hold and edge for a while but are easy to sharpen back up. If you are buying a 1095 knife this is what you get.@@devonsanterre8449
I made a baton out of a wet piece of birch, I would have been hard pressed to cut myself much less paper afterwards.
Ontario's 1095 seems to be stronger, I've noticed that theirs retains an edge longer than most 1095 from other more expensive knife manufacturers. Just my experience with 1095 HC steel knives from different brands.
@@PerceptionVsReality333I prefer Tops knives if I am grabbing a 1095 blade myself, then a Becker.
I totally agree.
I had similar bad experiences with the ESEE Junglas. Its badly designed and soft and...
In my humble opinion, the best bark river knife made that will handle everything but real chopping( carry a small camp axe) is the Aurora LT in A2. Thick enough for bushcraft, thin enough for food prep, skinning, and fish cleaning. Easy field sharpening when it needs some touch up. NOT a fan of Esee. Love the BK 5, 7, and 9. (Bk5 no longer produced) They hold an edge really well and are also easily sharpened.
Sloanirrigation very informative thank you
I almost got the aurora but went with the bravo lt instead. Lovely knife couldn’t be happier
Great vid as always guys, I was thinking in bying the ESEE 5, now I dont think so, I have the BK2 and it still rock as hell, your the best, keep on going mattes 👍😉💪👊😎🇵🇹
Don't let that stop you i have two and i love them FOR REAL.......................
It's not a bushcraft knife... But it gets my nuggets tingling 😂
Its definately not, I bought one for camp and it splits wood like an animal but its not designed for camp at all... Unless you have to cut your way in and out of your camper lol
Oh and it does get the nuggets tingling 😆
Could you test the Gerber Strongarm? It's similar to this knife but I think it would do better.
I have had three esee knives and I have sold all of them, I hate the coating, edge retention is terrible
I was tempted to buy an esee 6 however I read the reviews on the website and saw so many regarding a weak edge that I decided not to get one
+Owen Wellspring Just buy a Mora knife while you save up for a custom knife.
@@umbalaba got a mora, i have a vast collection of good knives. Overall my favourite is the British army survival knife. It is a beast, the blade is 7 inches long and 6mm thick. It is the easiest knife to sharpen in my collection yet it holds the edge for a long time of usage. The phosphate coating lasts a long time but it was a pain when mirror polishing the cheek of the blade. Overall it is the best knife for the money, may come a tad blunt from factory, but if you can't sharpen it you don't deserve it. Plus it must be the coolest knife around. I have more expensive knives, but this one could challenge its son the bk2, or an a1 pro.
@@dahotrod1533 Sorry man. I thought you were just starting out a collection. That British army survival knife sounds really awesome!
@@umbalaba they are not the most well-finnished knives but that was the sacrifice to keep the cost down for the British army, they did not skimp on the materials or forging though so it is a really solid knife.
hi guys what a sincere test, we dont want to hear marketing shit if knife isnt as good as it should be for the price. i have one but it starts to rust because it no more goes into the bush, for the same weight a small axe is much better. you should do a comparison (chopping and batonning - for the rest with such big knife or axe we always take a small knife !)
I really wanted to like RAT/ESEE back in the day owning the Izula, 3, 4, & 6 and now they are all sold off. I did not like the knives finding them very overpriced for the 1095 & horrible ergonomics. Good honest assessment on your part. Thank you.
Horrible ergonomics? Are you high?
The old style handles were horrible to the hands. For sure. I sold them all also.
But the new ones with the 3D handles look very comfortable.
But the prices ... not too wallet friendly.
Bark River I do not trust.
Had bad experiences with them. Bravo 1 and 2 severe edge rolling from just a bit of chopping of pine wood.
The heat treat was worse than sh.t.
Also overpriced. A knife is just a tool. Not someting i get a hardon from.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 Not at all. I just did not care for the 3 or 4, too thin and I despise choils. The 6 was like a squared off block to me in the hand. Just my opinion. I bought them and then sold them all. Not my "type" of knife and I just did not buy into all of the hype. For me the Fallkniven F1 has been perfect for my needs and never looked back again. To each their own. Good luck with your choices.
@@Ve-suvius It's not a heat treatment issue per se, Bark River has been known in the past to violently power grind and then cold quench their knives which produces steel that tends the fail in the manner in which you experienced. Bark River was also told about this and their answer was basically that they knew what they were doing and stfu.
@@masgrey9608 I have the hm 6 which has a very nice handle and the junglas and izula with the square handles and they are fine in hand. The only realy thing I'd change about them is to give them a tapered tang because their handles are really heavy. Higher performance grind would also be nice but that's a problem common to most knife companies.
The ESEE 5 is a beast, it isn't meant for camping/bushcrafting, it is meant to help you get out of a very bad situation that I hope nobody finds themselves in. This knife is designed to get you out of a downed aircraft (if you even survive that) and then give you some options for surviving after that. I have used mine for splitting wood and get a fire started but I have no experience using it to cut through the aluminum fuselage of an aircraft and hope I never do :)
I own a esee junglas and have put it through more abuse than you could imagine. I can tell you guys right now that you got a bad blade. Handle shape and fire steel aside, there is no way it should chip, dull and have its coating come off like that. Esee is known for how good their 1095 is, it's almost bizarre how good they can get it. I know you can only judge a knife by what you have in front of you, as such I really respect your honesty and integrity in giving us this review. Keep up the good work, I'll be watching.
Honesty always prevails! Well done guys! 👍😁
Spot on review. Buy Bark River , same lifetime , no questions asked warranty and a lot better steel choices
Much more expensive and brittle edges. You didn't mention that 🤣🤣
Great knives for bushcraft though..
I have had nothing but hassles with Bark Rivers customer service and their edges chip like a motherfucker.
Great Review, yeah too soft and too thick, too blocky.
You two convinced me to trade my Esee4 for a Bark River years ago. Best knife decision I ever made. Can't thank you enough!
yeah i bought my first mora because of them, now i have to many. but that is not a problem
Nicely done boys. Funny, honest and comprehensive. A+
I was about to purchase a ESEE but thanks to DBK I rethought my in investment. I will now be either getting a Mora Garberg or other silimar knife. Thanks guys!
There are dozens of videos showing how excellent & versatile the esee 5 is. The "will taylor" video makes bushcraft look easy with the esee 5. If you take what the "Dutch Bushcraft" blessed boys say seriously then you need help.
@@johnnyeas1431 Bruh this was 3 years ago, plus I bought a Garbeg and it's amazing.
@@RealFigureEight so did your words expire because they are 3 years old?
@@johnnyeas1431 Look upon my feild of fucks... and see that it is barren, for I have none to give.
Hahaha I love how people get personally invested in things as though it were a part of them. They feel personally attacked when something they like is criticized like it actually makes them less of a person.
Personal opinion doesn't matter, if they like it and it works for them then goon on 'em but they don't need to convince the world they're right to justify their opinion.
Its called INSECURITY, INFERIORITY COMPLEX, FRAGILE EGO.... weakness of the heart and mind. interesting how many macho tough guys have these traits. for narcissists, "things" associated with their personal lives (hobbies, work, friends, family, interests, geographic residence, values, beliefs etc) become "extensions" of their ego. don't tell them there is anything wrong with themselves or anything or anyone they like love or believe in or now u r their enemy. REAL MEN CAN BE SHOWN THEY ARE WRONG AND DON'T THREATEN INTIMIDATE OR ASSAULT THOSE WHO SHOW IT TO THEM!!!!
Use that broken tip to strike your firesteel 😜. The editing on these videos must take forever!! Thank you for all of your hard work. Esse scales turn me off from them, but they sure have a cult following!
I dont get why they temper the blade to so low hrc 1095 should be able to handle 59-60 hrc just fine. still i think they should Use better steel. The knive is supppsed to be a Military survival knive and it isnt even rust resistant and the protective coating is bad .if you want a good stainless steel that also ist pretty tough i would take rwl34/cpm154 or cpm s35vn at 59-60 hrc. I think that would work just fine or am I completely wrong?let me know.
Im so glad i did not buy that knife. It had so many good reviews, so i seriously considered it. Bought i Fallkniven A1 instead. Do you have any plans to review the Norwegian Sami knife: Samekniven, by Strømeng?
Wow there is the proof! And it confirmed many of my thoughts.
So many people swear by this knife. I looked at them and found they were a little expensive for a 1095 production knife and I didnt like the handles. Flat handles always give me a hotspot in my hand so I passed. I still would like to try one though but not for that price.
I agree. I have found ESEE knives to be uncomfortable, soft, and all around disappointing. They cost a lot for really basic steel and slab scales. Like the boys say: save up a little more and get a Bark River.
Bryan Marsh
While BRKT can produce a decent knife they also produce a lot of defective product but sell it anyway so be aware of this well documented fact.
Also, be prepared to sharpen it at least 4 times to remove the damaged apex steel from dry grinding during stock removal...this goes for almost all knife companies. If dry grinding is used then edges are most definitely burnt and damaged. This is scientifically proven.
I own a few of their knives but I will no longer support the company, buy their product, or recommend them due to the amount of highly defective knives that get out in the public and are sold as “premium quality”, and the outright lies the owner tells (sells) to people.
Any knife maker can make you a similar/same custom knife for much less.
My knife came blunt out of the box . I convexed the edge , now it's good for splitting. It cannot carve or fetter stick . I advise one to bye a small hatchet instead . Cheers
👍can you make review about Tbs knives?Tbs"boar" or "grizzly" ? Thanks!
MD Chaika
I have the grizzly and aside from the absurd bevel geometry it seems to be a good knife, although far too thick. I’ve since reprofiled it to about 12° per side with a tiny micro bevel at about 17° per side giving a total of about a 34° apex. I’m thinking of thinning the whole blade to around 3mm.
Can you guys do a comparison of the Ontario tak-1 to this knife? Anyone have any input on the tak-1?
Great video and review. I own 2 ESEE blades , both the 4-5 and though they dull fast, and don't slice well- I can honestly say that they will get the job done. Maybe not fine feather sticking but enough to get a fire going, will cut , prepare meat, will dig and pry and if you put a 90' degree spine on them they will throw spark. Not a knife that I would call a Bushcraft but a survival knife- Yes. Easy to sharpen, easy to fix if chipped. Just my 2 cents....lol. Anyways, Bark River if you want slicy , own 2 of them as well.
These guys are about high end fixed blades. I'm not surprised on their opinion on esse
Damn those esee fanboys are toxic. lol
It's just a freakin knife!
QuickStrikes84 we can’t take them anywhere. We try to house break them and teach them manners but the lessons don’t take.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE WHY DON"T YOU LOVE ME!!!! just ordered a replacement esee 5 as i lost mine in a move from va back to ca.
Sergeant Shultz we love all those in the #eseearmy. We just got to keep some of them at arms length! LoL.
Oh yeahhh!! Hahaha
Yea ... But it gives its wearer a sense of daring do and tactical prowess as they check themselves in the mirror prior to getting into their vehicle and driving off to the woods for an hour of white-knuckle survival training.
(It performs much better when you take advantage of the MOLLE-back-sheath/pouch/tin 'system upgrade' options .... Available in bad-ass Black for urban preppers, or OD-Green for wilderness survival enthusiasts).
Hello guys, you should try Beaver Knife. It's an Russian Bushcraft knife very beautiful one.
I agree! Excellent fit and finish, great price, and very nice people to do business with.
I don't know if you have done it already, but could you make a video about de mora classic n°2? I'd really love to see that video. You guys are just amazing!
Great to see some ESEE after all this time. 😀 It's not a bushcrafter so no surprise at your findings. I've never seen that kind of edge damage on mine though; you guys taking edge lessons from survival Lily? *Throwing tomatoes* Thank you!
Regardless. I still love my Esee 5.
Esse knives are overrated as hell I owned a 6 known as "the best knife ever made" and got the same chip playing around with some wood sticks in my back yard before I got it I read about how people accidently hit rocks etc and the edge was still good which I know now is bullshit
I’ve had good luck with mine. I’ve even stripped the coating off my Junglas 6 and 4. Acid etched it then carburized it. Works amazing.
Yep. My Gerber Ultimate Pro is way better and cheaper.
Yeah, it's literally soft _and_ brittle. It's like a knife made of dry play dough.
Awesome video...funny too. But can you help me and let me know if you recommend any of the EESE line? I was thinking of getting either the EESE 5 or EESE 6 and now I have second thoughts. What do you recommend that is best for the same price that has the best steel for bushcrafting, food processing, etc?
Beaver knive - super knive.
Wow just looked at the price of the ESEE 5.. nearly 200 british pounds on knives and tools if you want it with a sheath.. would rather take a shit in my hands and clap..
😂🤣😅 Go for it then
That's just rip off Britain
I love the honesty ❤️ you guys are great reviewers
We appreciate the kind words ! We try our best to be as honest as possible
Interesting stuff guys... We know Esee and Kabar are reputable companies, that make good knives, and furthermore they stand behind products. However, the E-5 and the BK2 are more ingress/egress tools for rescue and survival. They have no bushcraft panache whatsoever, and of course this is not their wrecking crew virtue. You guys are spot on --- this is an urban or man-made construct demolition/survival genre. The E3 E4 E6 have better geometry for woods or wilderness tasks. In companion mode: the E3 piggybacked to a Junglass is one heck of a pair. The BK9 all-arounder I find much more wilderness useful than the BK-2. PS - sure would like to get my hands on that Benchmade PUUKKO.
I really would like to see you do a review on TRC K1 or TRC Apocalypse..their knives seem to be good quality.
I've been using the Esee 5 for many years and have had similar issues with the blade dulling rather quick, but thats why I bring a field sharpener and a strop with me... and as you guys know, 1095 is easy to sharpen. I keep it mainly for heavy duty prying type tasks. I agree 100% about the handles, which is why I bought much better ergonomic g-10 scales from TheKnifeConnection.net... they make a world of difference. As well, I have a few Esee knives and the factory edge has never been that great... so first thing I always do is put my own better edge on it. That said, the Becker bk2 has always performed better for me than the Esee 5. Though very similar, the Becker is made from a better steel 1095 cro-van (aka 0170-6 or 50110B). I do have several super steel knives that I use as well (cpm 3v and Z-Wear PM) which I absolutely love, but there is something about this simple steels used by Becker, TOPS, and Esee that just feels so great in the hand. Anyway, love the video... couldn't help laughing my ass off! And can't wait to see the next week video showdown between the BK2 and the Esee 5.
Hope we won't let you down! But yea man we can agree on your comment! It was also shocking to find out about how big the angle was that they sharpened the knife too. So eventually it took me a real long time to sharpen it but then again, this might just be taste! Thanks for commenting legend!
Does the BK2 sharpen just as fast?
Pls check out the "mora garberg-killer", the Terävä Jäkääripuuko. This is like the "little brother" of the Skrama and I would be very happy to see what you are thinking about it.
We own one and actually used it in an older video called 5 ways to make fire
I once had to cut the oil drain hose on a large generator with my ESEE Izula II. I had to use quite a bit of force to get through it in tight quarters. Once I got half way through it the resistance dropped about 80%, I lost my control and cut a small channel in the concrete and RAMMED my top into the steel support beam. Here was about a 1/16” section of the edge that had the tiniest roll on it and the tip was still splinter removing sharp. After spending maybe 20 seconds dressing the rolled edge, everything was fine.
A very true video...Had you also had the knife for more than a few days you would have noticed how very easily it RUSTS only great thing about this knife is its sheet but you can't use sheet to survive
Esee 5 was my first “bushcraft knife” and now hilariously I discover that it isn’t 😂😂😂 my second one was a Becker BK-2 and my third one the Morakniv Garberg full Tang Carbon steel. And now I’m waiting for a fallkniven S1X and Benchmade Puukko... so basically the BK-2 was my first bushcraft knife... lol
One thing I’ve observed in our classes is that people normally show up with BIG KNIVES. As their skills increase the size of the knife gets smaller and smaller.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE
Cody Lundin all the way.
Mors Kochanski also..
Axe machete and short knife (saw).
That's it.
For most of these guys, those in the video as well, knives are a near fetish.
Have nothing to do with using it in real life.
It's just the cool factor.
Mora's are perfect for bushcraft.
No need for 200 euro knives.
Need, I say.
If it is want, for the kicks, cool or whatever.
Yes.
The entro was an absolute gas (super funny) LOL
Great video. ESEE has a it's place among survival knifes, but they look like they're made by and for robots to me and don't have a place in my collection. Thanks for being willing to slam a popular knife. I've always appreciated your guys knife sense.
Good video, but can you make a video for ESEE CANDIRU between fake ones and the real ones? Thanks.
It's a heavy duty survival knife that you can sharpen on a river rock if needed and not break. Check out JoeX's destruction testing videos he hates Fallkniven because they break so easily. The Esse 5 has many handle options as well. Remember the harder the steel and higher the Rockwell the more easily it will snap in half. The harder steel may hold an edge longer though. I'll take a soft steel that bends before a hard steel that shatters in a survival situation and that is what the Esse5 was designed for. Thanks 👍
Ya they should hit there falknivens with hammers lol
Knifes are not made to be destroid or bashet agaings steel i have my fallkniven in to go Bag Hunt vhit it defende Whit it putet tru hell and its fine my advice have a knife that sut you and you love
That is a reason to buy Ontario RAT-5. I have saved few quid.
You didn't talk about the striking element on the base. It has a window smasher. A beefy one that might have some fighting applications. It's clearly more tactical than Bush craft. And it also comes in 3d handles now.
Have you tried or tested the Ontario Blackbird SK5?
Hands down Bark River bravo is one of the best o es out there.
Good mail opener. But that slick handle has no place in the woods. Only to be used with clean dry hands
@@foreverjim5240 good point but the handle can always be roughened.
There are hundreds of handle options on Bark River! I had black Canvas Micarta which did need a roughing up.@@keghinian
You guys are absolute right. It’s not a bad knife per se, and in a survival situation I would be glad to have it but it is vastly surpassed by any Bark River Bravo. I have a Bravo Vortex and have not used my ESEE 6 since I bought it.
The esee-5 is the first knife I held that I had an emotional connection with. That being said, after holding a fallkniven A1, I sold my esee-5 shortly after. The handle sucks a fat one.
You guys should do a comparison between the esee 4 and tops bob
Try out the schrade schf42d
Thanks for the upload and keep the great videos coming. Best knife UA-cam channel ever. I love every video y'all make.
Literally my favorite channel!
after pewdiepie right?
The truth always wins. 🏆
Hi Mikkie B and Marioelisabethantoniosomething...
Please let me, being securely anonymous from the mad Esse enthusiasts, express the though that the most amazing thing is that at this terrifying level of hardness, or maybe I shouldn't use word "hardness" in this case, so at softness of 55-56 HRC, because that's how Mr. Rowen hardens this steel, the edge still chips... That's sad. ;-)
projekctx
I bought one Esee, the Bolieu; and it chipped and rolled on soft pine. lol
I reshaped the bevel and resharpened it and it’s a bit better but quite underwhelming overall. Esee give 1095 a bad name as it truly is a great steel.
@@Wolf_K
Well it's probably about what ESSE explained in the comment DBK pinned at the top. It's not a knife, it's accidently sharpened prying bar :-)
Just bought an Esee 4 and it has a bevel like a cold chisel. Will take some work to get an edge on it, then I can test the edge. A good looking knife none the less and have some hopes for it once I get a new bevel on it.
Sometimes I pull on it so hard, I chip the edge
haha you always make me laugh!
I love your Megumi avatar!
Bro the way Mikkie went flying into space at the beginning😂😂😂
I have an ESEE 6 and I have found the same issues as DBK has with the ESEE 5..... but in my defence it was my first knife and I was grabbed by the hype of the advertisements 😀
Best knive channel ever! Greetings from Durban South Africa
Is Lilly’s product better?
And if it is, and by only one digit, she has to get a thumbs up.
I trust you guys to be fair.
I think the aus8 is a better choice because of corrosion resistance.
And how many female tool designers do you see out there?
She deserves a chance.
TPHVICTIMS
Lilly’s knife is based off of Cold Steel’s SRK (which she’s stated is her favorite knife in previous videos). I like AUS8 as a pocket knife steel (I EDC an Ontario Rat 1 folder and use it heavily in the woods) but for a fixed blade knife, I find it to be on the soft side for doing heavy tasks.
I literally just found your channel and I love it I can't stop watching it. You guys are awesome please keep making great content. I'm signing up for your patreon after Christmas!!! Happy holidays and happy new year !!!
Hilarious! And I own esee’s. Love it
The knife across the throat comment you got was completely fkn rude and unnecessary.ignore that pile of crap
I prefer schrade if I'm buying 1095 steel. It's good enough and I can buy 3 schrades per one esee.
Good combat knife.. not made for Bushcraft as much. (Mora garberg is better for cheaper. Or condor terosaur with the skindi grinds)
So a mora companion is a better knife... Who would have quessed.
I would've.
@Joshua Fields You're nuts. My Mora bushcraft black is all I need and I would never consider throwing it away
@@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561 correct, not a throw away blade there!!!
Guys, serious talk : I don't know why your channel is not rising like it should.... Maybe, try to advertise your videos somewhere. Like on knife and tools, I thought that was a great idea. Idk... You should really think about it, because you deserve more!!!! Love u guys, from France.
Make a video on bk7!!!!!!!!
They already did the BK2, it's basically the same just bigger.
@@buddhamack1491 not really... the Bk2 is a thick .25" and 5.25" long while the BK7 is .188" thick and 7" long. They perform very VERY differently. And the same goes for the BK9
Couldn't agree more. I customized my BK7 with a file, sandpaper and a needle and thread for the sheeth. Took me hours to carefully remove the third notch on the thumb ramp and custom fit the handle. Now I have a killer tool/weapon in a compact package that completely solves my big knife need without extra expense. Great bonding experience.
@@johnnyra2437 Fair enough, I've never used the BK7 myself but I have a chopper similar in size and have compared it against my brother's BK2. I just know that the boys aren't much into larger knives so they don't buy a lot to test so it's unlikely we'll see it.
Buddha Mack I sold my BK7 to finance a Bark River Bravo Vortex. I don’t regret it at all. Bark Rivers are far superior and only a little more expensive.
Thank you for redoing this review. I have knives that I have made out of 1095 and they dont dull like this. To me it seems like this isnt a Bush crafting knife like you guys said, but I also think it would be better with a better heat treat. I dont understand how this knife dulls that easily, as I said I make knives out of 1095 and just about a month ago I used one of them to chop through a 4 inch log out at my shack. The knife was still able to shave hair off of my arm, I used another knife I've made to cut frozen meat, using a hammer to pound it through the knife could still shave and cut paper and took no damage to the spine either. It seems like maybe they need to work on their tempering process, but what the hell do I know I'm just a hobby knife maker who has only made about a dozen knives.
This is the Rowen's heat treat idea. The priority is to make the blade unbreakable in order to give a lifetime warranty, rather than achieve performing edge. That's why they're heat treated so low - 55-56 HRC.
I also hate esee, mainly for the reasons you guys said. Soft steel, really steep angle, and uncomfortable handle.
The steep edge is apparently better for edge retention, yet it still gets chewed up. Makes me wonder how poor the heat treat is.
Owen Wellspring yeah it technically is, because the edge isn't as fine, and there is more backing it up. There is plenty of knives out there with way better value than this esee.
Owen Wellspring the Becker bk2, also uses 1095, but is far better than this knife.
Owen Wellspring you know what’s even better for edge retention? Having a knife at a Rockwell suitable for a knife, not a jungle machete Rockwell. (64hrc for example would be superior)
@@Wolf_K 64 holy shit, 55 is pretty low tho im sure 1095 can be abit harder without risking chipping
I have followed RAT through to Esee, OKC and all that. I have been a fan of the company but the facts of your review stand. No love lost here keep up the honest, good work. Truth is different grinds, coatings, steel choices, handle materials all serve different purposes. I don't expect any knife to do it all but I expected this knife to survive at the very least a good batoning . I have hammered much thinner and cheaper knives through all sorts of wood in all conditions and have never seen that poor level of performance.
i will always love my esee 5. I know it's big. If the blade dulls, i can use it as a club.
Clubbing them bastards with it.
Is the guy in the pic Adolf Schnitzel?
Another epic vid from my favorite channel. Love your work boys and you have helped me alot in my knife buying hobby. Thanks for this epic channel.