Cunningham and the BEST 1950s Le Mans Simulation
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- The 1950s at Le Mans were the peak of romance with the great race. Small diminutive sleek sportscars, each brightly and proudly painted in the country colors of its entrant. There was an innocence and excitement for the race, a challenge unlike any other. An unfiltered test of man and machine, 50+ sportscars, all with a unique approach to solving the 24 hour problem. But that innocence, that youthful exuberance was tainted in 1955. Not just for those competing, but for all of us looking back as well. So often the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of Le Mans in the 1950s was that faithful event, and not the stunning race it was.
So lets relive a bit of what made Le Mans so special in the 1950s, muscling the large American Cunningham around the 8mile circuit in a mini endurance event!
Thanks to WooChoo for making this all possible!
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0:00 History
3:40 Cunningham
6:18 Mod Info
7:47 Race
1:08:04 Final Thoughts/Settings
#lemans #lemans24 - Ігри
GPLaps, the Jaguars would have had Girling disc brakes. The C Types in '53 were the first ever cars to run disc brakes at Le Mans.
that's correct and Mr. Cunningham had ordered same disk brakes for his cars, Girling never delivered and he had to race his cars with drums, very "patriotic" act hahaha
Ferrari soon followed soon after learning that they we're constantly getting outbreaked by the Jaguars & outlapped.
Yep, it even says it in the amazing free mod.
There’s a small description besides each car and the types of brakes is mentioned.
So this absolutely amazing fun mod is period correct :)
Oh my goodness, Jake ... this is an exceptional video! In fact, this is far better than a video about sim racing; it is a rofessional documentary. The choreography in the intro is sublime! You are taking sim racing to a whole new level. It must have taken you hours to compile this. Thank you very much for bringing us these glimpses into the rich past of auto racing.
The Le Grand models are some of my fave mods ever. So much detail included with everything. Wonderful stuff.
I did a near-identical LeMans in the Cunningham a couple of years back and loved the experience. Crashed late into the race and turned a 5th into a 14th but thankfully a couple of Bristols had a coming together and caused enough of a mess that I finished 10th. Got about 45 minutes into the race before I found out there was a 5th gear in it though! Didn't change the top speed but my fuel economy improved drastically.
GPLaps, where sim racing videos become a fine art
Simply amazing video... I watched last weekends Le Mans in pieces live but didn't get to watch it properly so I'm using the 10 bucks I paid on the official site to watch it again as they added hour by hour replays. It's strangely enjoyable to watch the 24 hours in replay while listening to the commentators chatting. There's always something new to learn. While watching I was thinking about how the Mulsanne didn't have the chicanes originally, so it must have been crazy.. There's a short animated film some where on the disaster on '55...
Can we please have a modern sim title that 100% represents vintage racing? Not mods for old games or mods for games that can be pain to use. Just something built from the ground up to take you back in time.
Nope! But here’s this years new GT3 cars.
developers have to feed their families too. passion is important but i for one wouldn't want to spend years to create something probably a few hundred people will buy
@@thehorsehunter A few hundred? Ha
i think its sadly safe to say 95% of new sims will be made to fit the e-sport aspect of simracing which would never include vintage stuff
@@tritekk Agreed, unfortunately.
It would have to be crowd funded, there's isn't much demand for a new GPL or GT Legends. It's just not widely appealing.
Wonder what this video would look like in grainy black and white newsreel style. I'm sure it would look fairly realistic. Once again you've nailed the video taking me back to that time. I went to Le Mans 7 times from 95 onwards and the loudest car was the Panoz. I say one thing for the Americans they sure know how to make a car sound amazing. I swear you could hear that Panoz going down the Mulsanne straight from the Grandstand. Why do you Americans add away to straight? Seems unnecessary but I guess there's a good reason. Maybe from oval racing. Thanks once again for a great video. :)
Another stunning glimpse into the past, superbly executed Jake. You manage to combine history and action so effortlessly, your production values must be some of the highest on YT - thank you!
This was a absolute pleasure to watch...would love to see more
Hey thanks! I love your channel btw, been watching for years
The best pure sim atm, RF2, one of the best classic tracks. What's not to love ? I've not tried these cars yet, but driven Chief's 60's style F1 cars around here and it's a blast.
You're a bloody artist Jake. This is superb.
As always, an absolute joy to watch, your enthusiasm is infectious and your attention to detail is incredible, you really do bring these classic races to life once again! Thank you 👏🏁🍾
You have some of the most fun yet relaxing videos I've seen of simracing online. I love watching these historic sample vids...keep it coming!
Splicing the replay of entry and exit of the corner. If indeed what you got going on is a really nice touch.
The history of le mans is inspiring. I went to le mans for the third time this year and you can feel the importance and history in the air. Thanks for this video!
Just watched again to get some tips for the next HRRC. So glad this video was well received and gave you the final nudge to set up HRRC. How much fun have so many of us had since then 😃
Been waiting for you to make a video of Le Mans with these cars. It’s an incredible experience
thanks Jake. Really enjoyed this!
Your intros are simply exceptional. They fit the theme of your channel so well!
Your content is the discovery channel for vintage sim racing. Absolutly superb😎
That Cunningham looks like a buff Shelby Cobra
These cars are amazing. By far the most enjoyment I've ever had in rF2. A few years ago I started getting bored with modern sim racing. I wasn't driving much at all. Since finding your channel, I have reinstalled NR2003, ICR2, GPL, and a bunch of mods for all and I have been having a blast reliving those glory days again. All thanks to you. Now if I could only remember my GPLRank password from 24 years ago............
Absolutely awesome!
Great video as per usual. I especially like Le Grand Track, with its advertising hoardings for fictional companies named seemingly after historically famous scientists.
Excellent video, thank you!
Great video, your best intro yet imho. Bonus feelgood points for using the Simone Giertz theme music! :D
Great video again :) I love watching things like this
I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Cobra body morphed into the C4R shape. Didn't really need any extra effort because it seemed so willing, besides adding the oil cooler, and the fairing behind the driver. The Cobra body and chassis turned out to be fairly well suited to the 50s style in general, and a big thanks to Mantasisg who did a whole heap of work developing the very basic physics changes that I started with.
The trackside sponsors are mostly the names of scientists and mathematicians of the last few hundred years. It was a fun task. I had to dig a bit for resemblance in some cases, but I learned a bit more about the history of science as I went along. Sometimes the scientist's field of interest related well to the real-world brand/product they were replacing, which was satisfying :D
This video is a masterpiece. Your content is my favourite on UA-cam.
I'd love to see you and someone like Chris Haye team up together to compete in a classic Le Mans race.
Really great video. loved it and always get a history lesson along with some great racing..
Great video. I love the history lessons and racing.
I’m the same I really appreciate Jake’s time and research he puts into the real history for the context it creates an evocative atmosphere before then entering the virtual world of the simulation for one of his recreations, better yet his virtual career of one of his Axelson alter egos and then his championing and use of classic sims as well.
Best sim racing channel on YT by far, he has definitely carved a special niche for himself.
Outstanding Content!
Great effort!
Best simracing content on YT!
I just ran a 6 hour here with these cars a couple days ago, except it rained a lot at night, that was a wild one!
you sir are the best!
Can't wait to watch it after work
I took part in a online race with this very same combination once.
Despiste crashing my Jaguar against the sandbarries like thousand times, especially at night, and finishing it at end of the my class, ended being one of the very few race where I actually got fun playing rFactor 2.
Love your video’s, and the history lesson. :-)
I saw that car run last weekend. There is a great museum not too far away that has a collection of sports cars. Every couple weeks or so, they pull some of the cars out of the collection and run them around their lot behind the museum. It's awesome to see, hear, and smell these cars in real life. The most recent event was entitled "Americans are Le Mans" and they ran the Cunningham, a few GT40s including a Mk 4, a Corvette and a few others, including one from the early 20th century. It was cool.
Everyone says rF2 is horrible but then I see videos like this and it looks pretty good. Strange.
It's kind of a mess. You can get amazing stuff out of rF2, but you often need to put a lot of work into it.
Yeah, it's like they built a fragmented game around an engine. rFactor 2 is my current fav racing game.
Such an amazing video! It's ashame Ferrari lost a driver 😜
Just saw this and everything about it was wonderful. I have old LeMans tracks with Assetto Corsa and some of the cars. I am going to try and set something up in AC to use as I don't have, and don't really want rFactor. If I coiuld only find a Cunningham for AC! Thank you for all your excellent work.
This is wonderful. Real time machine. Car on its side at Arnage at the 15:34 mark. Impressive AI!
15:26 huge crash behind, lmao
well, maybe not huge for 50s le mans but the point remains
Was racing this exact combo yesterday, coincedence much? Also easily one of my favorite combos, the 1966 and 67 mods are also very good on rf2 and this track
I would definitely watch a whole championship. If you find more high quality vintage tracks.
dont forgot the victory for ford in 1966 with Bruce Mclaren and Chris Amon!
Great video Jake. The ai are so much better in Rf2 than Assetto Corsa.
Yes that's so true it's stated that Jaguar when being race developed opt to use Aviation disc brakes....instead or common drum brakes which where the standard of the time.
Just saw an OLD Duke you tube of Mike Hawthorn in a Jag doing an in car commentary of the new lap after they re jiggled things after the accident. "On Board with Mike Hawthorn at Le Mans 1957 D-type Jaguar"
at 1:21, in the banners there's a typo "BROCA Les systèmes d'échappements", échappements is written échappementa (prolly because the letter a is next to the letter s).
But amazing video ! It's like a real documentary
I used Google's translate. It's meant to be "Exhaust systems" but I'm afraid I don't actually speak French :)
“It’s not even a track Lee. Le Mans is 8.5 miles of country road. It’s rough ungraded… you gotta do that for 24 hours! 24 hours Lee. That means night! Half that race is in the dark ya’ can’t see sh*t”
22:15 So, in timed races I don't think the AI is capable of doing any kind of smart fuel strategy. They'll just take a full tank of fuel and new tyres (did they do that in that edited-out pistop, though?). In distance-limited races, however, they do consistently end the race with only a few % of fuel remaining, at least if they manage to get in a handful of clean laps in practice or qualifying. Otherwise they'll use the built-in estimate which can often result in them running out near the end of the race.
Sadly I think they are still not capable of syncing tyre strategy with fuel, and instead taking a new set every stop (again, as far as I know. It's been a couple of months since I did proper testing) . At least with the recent update they can at least choose a temperature-appropriate compound while they're at it.
Now the next video should be either the 67 sportscar mld for rfactor 2 or the Fantastic Le Mans 1970 dlc for Project cars 2 !
You should do some racing in Assetto Corsa with ASR's 1991 cars. I liked your Adelaide '91 video and would like to see some more, this time in AC
How do you make your intros kick ass so consistently?
Sound is awesome. What's the best AC equivilant ?
a car mod i really really enjoy is the MG mga race model for assetto corsa. its slow. its a wheel and throttle car for sure. definately a beginer car but i would to race one in real life. my dad got an MG way back in the years. its an MG midget. ever since riding in that car with the top down at two years old and seeing books about MG ive been enthralled with MG's. I would love to own one some day... but to own a race version and race would be amazing.
I've a picture with that actual car in the Revs Institute in Naples. Florida. Briggs built those cars not too far from where I live.
I died several times before completing a lap on this.
Organize a race with your followers, this mod, this circuit and the cars that are assigned by lottery :P. GPlaps 2.4hs :D
I was surprised that that wasn't a Cobra lol
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Damn , great fucking video .. just watched the whole damn thing without fast forwarding … are you just reading random facts while driving ,or do you just know all these facts ? Lmao either or it’s Fucking amazing… instantly subscribed I’m looking forward to watch your other videos now
great stuff , please tell what does 'To remove AI blocking edit the "AI Logic Override" parameter in your player.JSON file to be set to '1 do exactly?
11:01 watched the mike hawthorn lap (1956) recently, he mentions it like it was either done in 55 or 56 because they also flattened the hump, not sure though.
20:59 nah you're fine, 20x better than "jag wire"
Those headlights are so bad :D Amazing video though.
Now I find this weird, and pardon me in advance if this looked like an ignorant question, but why is it that the cars were all left-hand drive? Some of this cars, like the Ferrari 375 Plus and the Jaguar D Type, were supposed to be right-hand drive.
They're all just modded off of the in-game Shelby Cobra, Jags are called Jungle Cats, Aston Martins are Anton Marvins, Cunninghams are Cummings, etc. the aim from Woochoo was just to re-create the feel of the era rather than the cars exactly.
@@BaiocoIslandFilms Ah, okay...
_Anton Marvins..._
Wish he had just called the Cunninghams "Cunning Plans"...
@@jcgabriel1569 not now Baldrick
@@jcgabriel1569 Oh yeah. I call all the others by their in-game names except the cunninghams.
How do i get the pit board to work, i have it DL'ed but no idea how to make it work
Still hearing that audio compression sizzle in the rear speakers of a 5.1 setup :(
I asked a few folks and no one said they had issues, im sorry but i dont know what it could be you are the only one who has reported it
@@GPLaps No worries I actually noticed the same rear speaker sound on one of my own videos after posting this although it certainly doesn't sound like that when I'm playing the game
How does the “slower” Cunningham always catch up to the D-Type through the fast pit straight - Mulsanne section?
Only 95% AI makes them very slow in the corners. So they aren't nearly as committed through Maison Blanche meaning they lose heaps of time on the start/finish straight. At Tetre Rouge they often tend to make a mistake on exit, again losing massive time on the Mulsanne straight.
I have a scale model of such a car from the Hot Wheels brand.
We need the Cunningham C-5R with the more slippery body.
Admittedly, it seems like the other cars you're running against are from a few years later, so it's not entirely a fair fight that way, either.
The Cunningham is listed at 300 hp, whereas the standard Jaguar D-Type has 250 hp. The big difference is the Jag weighing 600 lb less (2,538 lb to 1,929 lb).
If that's the Ferrari 375 Plus, that's 330 hp, and 440 lb less than the C-4R.
And the DBR1 has similar output to the D-Type, but is 160 lb lighter still.
In terms of British lookers, the D-Type is nice, but I think I have to lean toward the DBR1 on the open side. As for coupes, the Lister-Jaguar Costin GT.
I mean, with the 1955 crash, you just had the pit apron, not even a separate lane. They didn't add the wall until 1971.
And a 300 SLR would just murder you, with 310 HP and being 550 lb less, not to mention, probably more slippery than either the 375 or D-Type; the DBR1 would likely be more similar in terms of its aero efficiency.
They called it the Signal Pits there just exiting Mulsanne. That onboard video with Mike Hawthorn from 1956 is a really good one to reference.
The DB3S still had some success. However, it only had 225 hp, so even with it being 380 lb lighter than you, on outright pace, it shouldn't be able to trouble the other cars out there in the lead group.
The D-Type, DBR1, 375, and 300 SLR ought to be good for 170-180 mph on the Mulsanne. And yeah, closing rates could be up to 100 mph, probably. In the mid to late '60s, that might have bumped up to as much as even 120 mph, with the Ford GT40 Mk. IVs capable of 220 mph in the top end.
The C-4R did win Sebring overall in 1953, the first-ever race of the FIA World Sportscar Championship.
It seems more likely that that's a Gordini T24S than a Talbot Lago T26C.
To my knowledge, you still can run only 2 drivers at Le Mans, but nobody has planned for doing that in quite some time.
McQueen had an XKSS, basically a roadgoing D-Type.
It's hard not to think of Old Spa after seeing this, and having more of the lap be corners might make the mix of truly competitive cars more interesting. The 1953 Spa 24 Hours was a round of the very first season of the FIA WSC.
lol@15:27 in the background.
The most obvious idea is forget the AI (or let them drive the 1litre cars). Are the RF2 servers good enough for a long multiple player? Can they mix multiple real drivers with AI?
Meanwhile I’m off to Steam to download it all!
Top work GPL.
Yes, many, many 24h races have been run in rF2 over the years. Some went perfectly well, others had issues. VEC just did 24h of Le Mans earlier this month. All 3 division servers ran without issues. And yes, you can have real players and AI in the same race.
Great vid although the very hairy hands were quite distracting... :o Did they not wear gloves in the 1950s?
Seems to me the ads along the track are not genuine...🤔🙂
Love the video, but if you want even more immersion use VR it’s really fun and nerve-racking.
Ay yo nice pronunciation of "Le Monstre" :)
How can you get the physics right without driving these cars irl?
I mean, there's "right" in the sense of exactly replicating the real car, which is something sims have been striving to and falling short of for 40 years now. Then there's also "right," meaning it's great at delivering the fantasy of driving sportscars in the 50s, which this mod is very good at.
15:28 :P
If Cunningham had been successful and made a ton of money he'd have been a Richie Cunningham. You're welcome 🙂
Lol 15:28 Ferrari’s collide.
Why did you shift so early in 5th (~6800rpm) ... seems to me you lost a lot of speed due to that?
Theres not much more speed after 6800 in 4th gear
@@GPLaps For me it feels like, if you shifted later (~>7krpm) you could gain speed in 5th gear.
Best regards
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Awesome as ever 😃 I 'tried' racing the Jag at Dundrod recently. That's an exercise in patience. I guess you've seen the Mike Hawthorn video at Le Man's but, just in case, and I'd hate you to miss it, here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/IpRFagIbcPE/v-deo.html
Could we have an actual link to this mod that actually works, aside from having to jump thru hoops via the hated Steam? Anyone know where this mod can be obtained away from Steam? WHy did they choose to use Steam in the first place? the most hated unfriendly platform in the world??? Nice videos though shame.
Austin Powers ruined the name Cunningham for me. And also his wife, Oprah
Simhub pitboard link is broken. "file is in owner's trash" error.
I just tried it out and it seems to load for me, both race department and the download itself
Yeah getting the same error here - No preview available - file is in owner's trash...shame.
Sorry, not sure why it wouldnt be working. I checked with a few others and they are able to download it ok. It is called "Pit Board Overlay" by "Red". It showed up searching that on google as well
@@GPLaps I'm getting "no match" on search at Race Department in the rF2 section.
And nothing in rF2 Misc. A lot of Subhub stuff but no pit board. Could this be a subscriber only thing?