If there was a plane designed "for fast flying", that was the spitfire, not certainly the FW 190. The FW 190 was designed as a complete day fighter and not to execute a single attack tactic, just like the spitfire was not design to be the ultimate turn fighter and nothing else. In fact FW performances were, overall, better than the coeval counterparts, including both the instantaneous and sustained turn rate across a wide range of speeds. The spitfire mk V, of course, retained a substantial advantage in sustained turn rate at low speed, but lagged behind at high speed (>350km/h) and low altitude. This is, of course, not the case in game. Secondly, even at low speed, the real limit to turn fight was not the plane itself, but the pilot. A 4G prolonged turn fight is extremely demanding even on a trained pilot, without proper equipment. Equipment that no spitfire had until late in the war. Again, this is not the case in game, where pilots are able to sustain 7G like it's nothing and even 10/12 for brief periods. No plane, Zero and Spitfire included, was intentionally designed to perform at such high accelerations, but was instead a by-product of other design choices (elliptical wing of the spitfire to maximize lift efficiency and the extreme lightweight of the Zero to maximize its range). It's not an opinion. The spitfire elliptical wing, the streamlined canopy and cowling, the huge effort to create a good streamlined cooling system and the lightweight materials selected were intended choices to minimize drag thus maximizing the speed of the aircraft. The result, as a matter of fact, was among the fastest planes when it entered service. On the other end, the FW, as stated by Tank himself, was never intended to have such an extreme emphasis on speed, but rather to be a stable, easy to fly platform, being able to absorb a reasonable amount of damage and operate under the harsh conditions of a prolonged war and field maintenance. The BMW 801 mounted on the FW could output 600HP more than the Merlin 45 mounted on the Spitfire V. There's absolute no doubt that the Spitfire was better suited to achieve an higher top speed and this is why the Mk 9 design could easily compete with the FW in term of speed, even if it still mounts a 400HP less powerful engine. Elliptical wings does not offer any significative advantage in terms of tight turns. The best shape for this is indeed the rectangular one (used by everyone else, just saying) as it offers the most surface area with the same wingspan. It also suffer for a significative disadvantage in tight cornering, as the tip of the wing tends to stall before the root, easily resulting in a flat spin. A disadvantage that can easily be corrected introducing a washout, but nevertheless a disadvantage. The only advantage of elliptical wings is the lower drag coefficient at set CL compared to the rectangular ones, resulting in a lower parasitic drag. But, again, this is not some fancy opinion: Mitchell himself, being a race airplane designer, stated that the he designed the spitfire for speed and ease to use. Again: no one on earth ever intentionally designed a plane to perform manoeuvres that no pilot can endure I'm just stating facts, not claims. I read a lot of books, but unlike you, I also understood their content. The point you completely miss is that the design focus of a plane has nothing to do with the performances of other planes. The Spitfire MK II and V, thus being slower than the FW, were still designed with a prominent focus on speed. The CR 42 Falco, being even slower than a Spitfire, was designed with an even greater focus on speed, to the point that it is still today, the fastest biplane ever built. Accidentally, some of the features that favours speed, such as a low weight, also improve cornering performances. On the other hand, the FW 190, despite faster than the Spitfire MK V, was not designed for speed, as you wrongly believe. It was designed for stability, sturdiness and ergonomic. Accidentally, many of the features that favours stability and sturdiness, such as an heavier wing load, also decrease turning performances, at least at low speed. Despite that, the FW was still able to have a better sustained turn rate at high speed, due to the sheer power of its engine. and this is very much about the FW flight model since the in game model does not have any of the features the FW has IRL. Cope
If there was a plane designed "for fast flying", that was the spitfire, not certainly the FW 190. The FW 190 was designed as a complete day fighter and not to execute a single attack tactic, just like the spitfire was not design to be the ultimate turn fighter and nothing else. In fact FW performances were, overall, better than the coeval counterparts, including both the instantaneous and sustained turn rate across a wide range of speeds. The spitfire mk V, of course, retained a substantial advantage in sustained turn rate at low speed, but lagged behind at high speed (>350km/h) and low altitude. This is, of course, not the case in game.
Secondly, even at low speed, the real limit to turn fight was not the plane itself, but the pilot. A 4G prolonged turn fight is extremely demanding even on a trained pilot, without proper equipment. Equipment that no spitfire had until late in the war. Again, this is not the case in game, where pilots are able to sustain 7G like it's nothing and even 10/12 for brief periods. No plane, Zero and Spitfire included, was intentionally designed to perform at such high accelerations, but was instead a by-product of other design choices (elliptical wing of the spitfire to maximize lift efficiency and the extreme lightweight of the Zero to maximize its range). It's not an opinion. The spitfire elliptical wing, the streamlined canopy and cowling, the huge effort to create a good streamlined cooling system and the lightweight materials selected were intended choices to minimize drag thus maximizing the speed of the aircraft. The result, as a matter of fact, was among the fastest planes when it entered service. On the other end, the FW, as stated by Tank himself, was never intended to have such an extreme emphasis on speed, but rather to be a stable, easy to fly platform, being able to absorb a reasonable amount of damage and operate under the harsh conditions of a prolonged war and field maintenance. The BMW 801 mounted on the FW could output 600HP more than the Merlin 45 mounted on the Spitfire V. There's absolute no doubt that the Spitfire was better suited to achieve an higher top speed and this is why the Mk 9 design could easily compete with the FW in term of speed, even if it still mounts a 400HP less powerful engine. Elliptical wings does not offer any significative advantage in terms of tight turns. The best shape for this is indeed the rectangular one (used by everyone else, just saying) as it offers the most surface area with the same wingspan. It also suffer for a significative disadvantage in tight cornering, as the tip of the wing tends to stall before the root, easily resulting in a flat spin. A disadvantage that can easily be corrected introducing a washout, but nevertheless a disadvantage.
The only advantage of elliptical wings is the lower drag coefficient at set CL compared to the rectangular ones, resulting in a lower parasitic drag.
But, again, this is not some fancy opinion: Mitchell himself, being a race airplane designer, stated that the he designed the spitfire for speed and ease to use. Again: no one on earth ever intentionally designed a plane to perform manoeuvres that no pilot can endure I'm just stating facts, not claims.
I read a lot of books, but unlike you, I also understood their content.
The point you completely miss is that the design focus of a plane has nothing to do with the performances of other planes. The Spitfire MK II and V, thus being slower than the FW, were still designed with a prominent focus on speed. The CR 42 Falco, being even slower than a Spitfire, was designed with an even greater focus on speed, to the point that it is still today, the fastest biplane ever built. Accidentally, some of the features that favours speed, such as a low weight, also improve cornering performances.
On the other hand, the FW 190, despite faster than the Spitfire MK V, was not designed for speed, as you wrongly believe. It was designed for stability, sturdiness and ergonomic. Accidentally, many of the features that favours stability and sturdiness, such as an heavier wing load, also decrease turning performances, at least at low speed.
Despite that, the FW was still able to have a better sustained turn rate at high speed, due to the sheer power of its engine.
and this is very much about the FW flight model since the in game model does not have any of the features the FW has IRL. Cope
And yet, the fact remains that the Spitfire, regardless of design intentions, was easily capable of outturning a FW, or a 109 for that matter, and both British and German pilots shaped their tactics according to this fact. Having read accounts from German and British pilots who flew or flew against the Spitfire- including historian, pilot, and General of Fighters Adolf Galland, I’d say that regardless of it’s performance in War Thunder or in real life, in a straight turn fight the Spitfire would still win. On an unrelated note, this guy gives me The_6th_Army vibes.
spitfires were insanely fast in the real world, the later ones were so fast that they were literally used to chase down Arado jets and take down rocket bombs
@CobraBoi he is also a hacker, he uses arcade flight model on his planes while flying on realistic mode, that's why he is apparently so good with energy. One of the greatest pilots of this game (Deviss) proven Defyn to be a cheater when he lost 20/0 on P63 King Kobra duel after Defyn told him in a video that Deviss kinda shitter 👺
"This plane completely beats everything at low speed" >Gets clapped "My theory is still right" "I didn't see you do anything impressive" Bro you can't choose both 😭 >
Glitched should have picked the I225 so that the lil dawg thinks "oh this plane I reverse it a lot cuz it compresses" they'll find themselves getting handled and their Longnose 190 being unable to pull up below 200 IAS
0:20 there is your answer. He only flies it in Ground Realistic Battles, where planes don't have icons over them and do not appear on the radar. Of course a Spitfire or Yak or anything that doesn't see you and doesn't know exactly where you are aren't going to turn towards you the most efficient way. Add to that that in GRB most players are trying to bomb stuff and are trying stay away from the enemy spawns to avoid flak, so if you are going for plane kills purposefully it's surprisingly easy to rack up kills. Next thing you know, the Fw-190 D-9 becomes the best turnfighter of WW2.
Remember that Erich Hartmann was not a good dogfighter, only a good surprise attacker, that’s how the FW can “outturn” spitfires in Tank RB, because they don’t even know they’re being attacked before it’s too late. It’s like me saying the Tornado is the best dogfighter in Ground RB because I shoot down unsuspecting MiG’s and F-16s
>anime pfp >Renamed(insert random phone number) nickname >big ego >mains D9 >sucks at it anyway Kinda similar to a certain someone named after a german army tbh
I'm not sure what's worse, the amount of sharpness you have set, defyn's mic quality, the Dora x flaps man himself, or the fact that overlaying this with any other music would turn it into an epic montage Either way I'm near crying and I accidently hit subscribe :3
@@Gl1tchman no dawg I love these pinkish hue post FX, I'd like to know how to make the game look clear without clouds burning my eyes, I'd like to set some greenish blue hue, thanks in advance
@@kingghidorah8106 my post is just desaturated in game with a bit of sharpness, and 2 more options in reshade, that being a bonus lut pack and magic bloom.
i can perhaps accept a 152H beating a spitfire in a low-speed duel with the excessive and prolonged use of landing flaps but goodness to think that a 190 can ever compete with a spitfire in a prolonged battle like this is peak clown ego
Lmaooooo good stuff man. Man’s is correct, the Dora should win that fight, but not with his idea of dropping the landing flaps and showing you a trick he learned lmao. There is just about 0 times you should ever turn with a spit in any 190, let alone the Dora. Love the ego boi duels 😂 o7 man!
Oh with the ability to extend of course D-9 should win, however his entire argument was that the 190 has amazing low speed performance and "by using landing flaps it can out turn spitfires".
@@Gl1tchman I’ve flown the D-12 a ton, and I would say it does have amazing low speed turning performance, but not against a spit lmao. There’s very few instances where you’d out turn a spit in the way he’s saying, and it almost always involves some vertical element to make use of the extra ponies under the cowl. But man this dude was ON one something thinking he’s just scissor you and end up on your six cause “lAnDiNg FlApS” lol like when he ripped them at the merge 😂😭
@@galvaniclegend917 I'm not even gonna lie. I suck at dogfighting. I learned that lesson the hard way a few times. Never turnfight a spit. And even though I still make the mistake, never...ever...just jump onto a rando's tail before you know that there are no Yak-9's or Spits of any kind anywhere near you. You will get deleted and break your keyboard in frustration.
@@Gl1tchman it does have good low speed HANDLING but not in the sense it would wobble and fall apart but rather have smooth corrections and precision tuning, it ain't a good low speed fighter like the Spitfire or the J2M2 or even the I225 which wobbles a lot but I've managed to out fight stuff unexpectedly, probably not very good players, probably i225 is a true stall monster.
The next thing the guy is gonna do is probably read a lot of German revisionist books and claiming himself to be a [insert pop culture celebrity] of the Fw 190
Average war thunder player thinking their p47 can outturn a zero without using flaps or cutting throttle but instead going vertical in front of the enemy loosing all energy
Dogfighting is a learned skill like most things, i myself have a lot to learn and made quite a few mistakes in these fights. There's no shame in being worse than someone unless you're trying to brag. 🤷♂
@@Gl1tchman I do learn from someone in my squad he used to be one of the top pilots in Warthunder at one point and when I fight him it’s obvious he is… I changed him to a fight in the Phantom Gr.1 he took the same plane and I lost the only thing different about are planes was mine was a little more completed his was new…
Yeah, just because the gamemode is called "realistic" that doesn't mean it quite is. Last i checked pilots IRL couldn't sustain 9G turns and planes couldn't sustain 13G pulls.
0:53, correct me if im wrong, but he could've won here?? Spit has come out of a turn, has dropped energy and has dropped altitude, 190 already has better energy retention, 190 could just fly straight up, maybe in a steep spiral, stall out the spit, pop flaps and kill him? Even if the spit eveades the 190 is now behind and above him so he controls the fight
I’ve never played the spitfires or the Doras, but I did some flight model testing and I think the LF MK 9 only begins loosing to the P51 H5 in a sustained turn at 600 kmph+ which is incidentally the max speed of the LF MK9 (at sea level). And iirc the P51 H5 turns better than the Doras.
was about to ask the french yak 3 costs but the video entertains me a lot that made me forgot to ask. Anyway, great vid and I'm hoping for the yak 3 answers in the future, have a good day.
god I love when people that don't play British planes think they can easily wipe the floor. nah man as long as the hispanos are fully modified your going to lose
how on earth do you play air RB this long and not realize that any turnfight a 190 wins against a spitfire is due to either team tactics or huge mistakes by the spitfire pilot. 190s aren't bad, but there's only so much you can do with that thing in the maneuverability department.
@@PanzerSteinn If you put a BF-109 K4, with Max Mods Max Crew etc up Against one The Mk XIVe Spittty with max crew mods etc and both pilots were equal in skill, the Spitfire would still win.
FW190 is just a German P-47. It is great in straight line and dive speed, nothing else. Climb is terrible, handling is awful, absolute brick. The Spitfire is very maneuverable while remaining fast and has very good acceleration and climb rate. It is not for nothing that many said Spitfire won the war : best fighter of the Second World War.
I get chatting shit and ending up in an ego duel. Been in both your shoes and his. And eating humble pie sucks, so I get that too. But I don't get not being a normal person and just admitting that you ran into someone better than you and being decent about it. The double down is fatherless behavior.
What a clownery. Even an elite FW190 player would have trouble killing a good Spit 1v1. FW190 were never designed to actually dofight. It was an air-superioty fighter. Aka 3rd party killer, and it was extremely good at that.
@@Gl1tchman 60% of WT players win 2 "dogfight" and think they are the best player on the game. So I am not surprised. But the guy here basically saw the stat and sad that grand targets are like air targets. And that was an impressive argument.....
If there was a plane designed "for fast flying", that was the spitfire, not certainly the FW 190.
The FW 190 was designed as a complete day fighter and not to execute a single attack tactic, just like the spitfire was not design to be the ultimate turn fighter and nothing else.
In fact FW performances were, overall, better than the coeval counterparts, including both the instantaneous and sustained turn rate across a wide range of speeds. The spitfire mk V, of course, retained a substantial advantage in sustained turn rate at low speed, but lagged behind at high speed (>350km/h) and low altitude. This is, of course, not the case in game.
Secondly, even at low speed, the real limit to turn fight was not the plane itself, but the pilot. A 4G prolonged turn fight is extremely demanding even on a trained pilot, without proper equipment. Equipment that no spitfire had until late in the war. Again, this is not the case in game, where pilots are able to sustain 7G like it's nothing and even 10/12 for brief periods. No plane, Zero and Spitfire included, was intentionally designed to perform at such high accelerations, but was instead a by-product of other design choices (elliptical wing of the spitfire to maximize lift efficiency and the extreme lightweight of the Zero to maximize its range).
It's not an opinion. The spitfire elliptical wing, the streamlined canopy and cowling, the huge effort to create a good streamlined cooling system and the lightweight materials selected were intended choices to minimize drag thus maximizing the speed of the aircraft. The result, as a matter of fact, was among the fastest planes when it entered service.
On the other end, the FW, as stated by Tank himself, was never intended to have such an extreme emphasis on speed, but rather to be a stable, easy to fly platform, being able to absorb a reasonable amount of damage and operate under the harsh conditions of a prolonged war and field maintenance.
The BMW 801 mounted on the FW could output 600HP more than the Merlin 45 mounted on the Spitfire V. There's absolute no doubt that the Spitfire was better suited to achieve an higher top speed and this is why the Mk 9 design could easily compete with the FW in term of speed, even if it still mounts a 400HP less powerful engine.
Elliptical wings does not offer any significative advantage in terms of tight turns. The best shape for this is indeed the rectangular one (used by everyone else, just saying) as it offers the most surface area with the same wingspan.
It also suffer for a significative disadvantage in tight cornering, as the tip of the wing tends to stall before the root, easily resulting in a flat spin. A disadvantage that can easily be corrected introducing a washout, but nevertheless a disadvantage.
The only advantage of elliptical wings is the lower drag coefficient at set CL compared to the rectangular ones, resulting in a lower parasitic drag.
But, again, this is not some fancy opinion: Mitchell himself, being a race airplane designer, stated that the he designed the spitfire for speed and ease to use.
Again: no one on earth ever intentionally designed a plane to perform manoeuvres that no pilot can endure
I'm just stating facts, not claims.
I read a lot of books, but unlike you, I also understood their content.
The point you completely miss is that the design focus of a plane has nothing to do with the performances of other planes. The Spitfire MK II and V, thus being slower than the FW, were still designed with a prominent focus on speed. The CR 42 Falco, being even slower than a Spitfire, was designed with an even greater focus on speed, to the point that it is still today, the fastest biplane ever built.
Accidentally, some of the features that favours speed, such as a low weight, also improve cornering performances.
On the other hand, the FW 190, despite faster than the Spitfire MK V, was not designed for speed, as you wrongly believe. It was designed for stability, sturdiness and ergonomic.
Accidentally, many of the features that favours stability and sturdiness, such as an heavier wing load, also decrease turning performances, at least at low speed.
Despite that, the FW was still able to have a better sustained turn rate at high speed, due to the sheer power of its engine.
and this is very much about the FW flight model since the in game model does not have any of the features the FW has IRL.
Cope
If there was a plane designed "for fast flying", that was the spitfire, not certainly the FW 190.
The FW 190 was designed as a complete day fighter and not to execute a single attack tactic, just like the spitfire was not design to be the ultimate turn fighter and nothing else.
In fact FW performances were, overall, better than the coeval counterparts, including both the instantaneous and sustained turn rate across a wide range of speeds. The spitfire mk V, of course, retained a substantial advantage in sustained turn rate at low speed, but lagged behind at high speed (>350km/h) and low altitude. This is, of course, not the case in game.
Secondly, even at low speed, the real limit to turn fight was not the plane itself, but the pilot. A 4G prolonged turn fight is extremely demanding even on a trained pilot, without proper equipment. Equipment that no spitfire had until late in the war. Again, this is not the case in game, where pilots are able to sustain 7G like it's nothing and even 10/12 for brief periods. No plane, Zero and Spitfire included, was intentionally designed to perform at such high accelerations, but was instead a by-product of other design choices (elliptical wing of the spitfire to maximize lift efficiency and the extreme lightweight of the Zero to maximize its range).
It's not an opinion. The spitfire elliptical wing, the streamlined canopy and cowling, the huge effort to create a good streamlined cooling system and the lightweight materials selected were intended choices to minimize drag thus maximizing the speed of the aircraft. The result, as a matter of fact, was among the fastest planes when it entered service.
On the other end, the FW, as stated by Tank himself, was never intended to have such an extreme emphasis on speed, but rather to be a stable, easy to fly platform, being able to absorb a reasonable amount of damage and operate under the harsh conditions of a prolonged war and field maintenance.
The BMW 801 mounted on the FW could output 600HP more than the Merlin 45 mounted on the Spitfire V. There's absolute no doubt that the Spitfire was better suited to achieve an higher top speed and this is why the Mk 9 design could easily compete with the FW in term of speed, even if it still mounts a 400HP less powerful engine.
Elliptical wings does not offer any significative advantage in terms of tight turns. The best shape for this is indeed the rectangular one (used by everyone else, just saying) as it offers the most surface area with the same wingspan.
It also suffer for a significative disadvantage in tight cornering, as the tip of the wing tends to stall before the root, easily resulting in a flat spin. A disadvantage that can easily be corrected introducing a washout, but nevertheless a disadvantage.
The only advantage of elliptical wings is the lower drag coefficient at set CL compared to the rectangular ones, resulting in a lower parasitic drag.
But, again, this is not some fancy opinion: Mitchell himself, being a race airplane designer, stated that the he designed the spitfire for speed and ease to use.
Again: no one on earth ever intentionally designed a plane to perform manoeuvres that no pilot can endure
I'm just stating facts, not claims.
I read a lot of books, but unlike you, I also understood their content.
The point you completely miss is that the design focus of a plane has nothing to do with the performances of other planes. The Spitfire MK II and V, thus being slower than the FW, were still designed with a prominent focus on speed. The CR 42 Falco, being even slower than a Spitfire, was designed with an even greater focus on speed, to the point that it is still today, the fastest biplane ever built.
Accidentally, some of the features that favours speed, such as a low weight, also improve cornering performances.
On the other hand, the FW 190, despite faster than the Spitfire MK V, was not designed for speed, as you wrongly believe. It was designed for stability, sturdiness and ergonomic.
Accidentally, many of the features that favours stability and sturdiness, such as an heavier wing load, also decrease turning performances, at least at low speed.
Despite that, the FW was still able to have a better sustained turn rate at high speed, due to the sheer power of its engine.
and this is very much about the FW flight model since the in game model does not have any of the features the FW has IRL.
Cope
And yet, the fact remains that the Spitfire, regardless of design intentions, was easily capable of outturning a FW, or a 109 for that matter, and both British and German pilots shaped their tactics according to this fact. Having read accounts from German and British pilots who flew or flew against the Spitfire- including historian, pilot, and General of Fighters Adolf Galland, I’d say that regardless of it’s performance in War Thunder or in real life, in a straight turn fight the Spitfire would still win.
On an unrelated note, this guy gives me The_6th_Army vibes.
Real
@@cheesuschrist5017 again that depends on the models. Not all the spitfires could outturn a fw or a bf 109. That is just straight up a lie.
spitfires were insanely fast in the real world, the later ones were so fast that they were literally used to chase down Arado jets and take down rocket bombs
So nice of Glitched to feature small war thunder creators like Defyn
I got 95% of my subs overnight thanks to him it's incredible
@CobraBoi he is also a hacker, he uses arcade flight model on his planes while flying on realistic mode, that's why he is apparently so good with energy. One of the greatest pilots of this game (Deviss) proven Defyn to be a cheater when he lost 20/0 on P63 King Kobra duel after Defyn told him in a video that Deviss kinda shitter 👺
@@kingghidorah8106 You are sarcastic, right?
@@GPAMFFBRRR of course not 👺 edit obviously yes, Deviss was too cocky and Defyn is very experienced
"This plane completely beats everything at low speed"
>Gets clapped
"My theory is still right"
"I didn't see you do anything impressive"
Bro you can't choose both 😭
>
Praise our Lord Defyn is here!!
Well he is just a grumpy little kid
Glitched should have picked the I225 so that the lil dawg thinks "oh this plane I reverse it a lot cuz it compresses" they'll find themselves getting handled and their Longnose 190 being unable to pull up below 200 IAS
What this shows is that Defyn can alter his microphone quality to suit the quality of gameplay shown onscreen
XDDD
I dont understand how the worst players have the biggest hot takes and egos
we suck so much that it is the only thing we find joy in
0:20 there is your answer. He only flies it in Ground Realistic Battles, where planes don't have icons over them and do not appear on the radar.
Of course a Spitfire or Yak or anything that doesn't see you and doesn't know exactly where you are aren't going to turn towards you the most efficient way. Add to that that in GRB most players are trying to bomb stuff and are trying stay away from the enemy spawns to avoid flak, so if you are going for plane kills purposefully it's surprisingly easy to rack up kills.
Next thing you know, the Fw-190 D-9 becomes the best turnfighter of WW2.
and where the majority of people don't have any clue of air combat and probably come at very low energy from fine tuning for the bomb drop
2:24 You've heard of the Syrian lead turn, now get ready for the Syrian don't turn
every US plane
actually made me laugh
Remember that Erich Hartmann was not a good dogfighter, only a good surprise attacker, that’s how the FW can “outturn” spitfires in Tank RB, because they don’t even know they’re being attacked before it’s too late.
It’s like me saying the Tornado is the best dogfighter in Ground RB because I shoot down unsuspecting MiG’s and F-16s
>anime pfp
>Renamed(insert random phone number) nickname
>big ego
>mains D9
>sucks at it anyway
Kinda similar to a certain someone named after a german army tbh
The 5th army right? Wait no thats not it im sure there's a documentary out there of that guy though!
@@defalt9417 6th
Don't know who you're talking about😆
What wrong whit anime pfps beside making u a nerd 🤓
@@Cheesycat0 haram
I'm not sure what's worse, the amount of sharpness you have set, defyn's mic quality, the Dora x flaps man himself, or the fact that overlaying this with any other music would turn it into an epic montage
Either way I'm near crying and I accidently hit subscribe :3
Oh get used to my terrible post fx it's not going away xD
@@Gl1tchman ah shit haha
@@Gl1tchman no dawg I love these pinkish hue post FX, I'd like to know how to make the game look clear without clouds burning my eyes, I'd like to set some greenish blue hue, thanks in advance
@@kingghidorah8106 my post is just desaturated in game with a bit of sharpness, and 2 more options in reshade, that being a bonus lut pack and magic bloom.
@@Gl1tchman thank you so much Glitched X
I swear every single German main has an extreme ego problem
many such cases
His in-game name of being 'Renamed' indicates he does not know when to stop spouting bullshit even when coming up with a username.
i can perhaps accept a 152H beating a spitfire in a low-speed duel with the excessive and prolonged use of landing flaps but goodness to think that a 190 can ever compete with a spitfire in a prolonged battle like this is peak clown ego
That music sync was awesome!
Cheers :)
I Love the Fuckewulfs, but i really wonder *WHAT* made he think that it can win against a spitfire in a dogfight
*Focke
I don't get how you farm ego bois so hard man
Just gotta be the master baiter yknow
@@Gl1tchman you should have a mass debate over who the greatest master baiter is
@@Xiphactinus Jack, no question here.
@@Gl1tchman he truly is the greatest among us
@@Xiphactinus seek god
The first mig15 merge 😂 He’s doing his best team rocket impression
Lmaooooo good stuff man. Man’s is correct, the Dora should win that fight, but not with his idea of dropping the landing flaps and showing you a trick he learned lmao. There is just about 0 times you should ever turn with a spit in any 190, let alone the Dora. Love the ego boi duels 😂 o7 man!
Oh with the ability to extend of course D-9 should win, however his entire argument was that the 190 has amazing low speed performance and "by using landing flaps it can out turn spitfires".
@@Gl1tchman I’ve flown the D-12 a ton, and I would say it does have amazing low speed turning performance, but not against a spit lmao. There’s very few instances where you’d out turn a spit in the way he’s saying, and it almost always involves some vertical element to make use of the extra ponies under the cowl. But man this dude was ON one something thinking he’s just scissor you and end up on your six cause “lAnDiNg FlApS” lol like when he ripped them at the merge 😂😭
@@galvaniclegend917 I'm not even gonna lie. I suck at dogfighting. I learned that lesson the hard way a few times. Never turnfight a spit. And even though I still make the mistake, never...ever...just jump onto a rando's tail before you know that there are no Yak-9's or Spits of any kind anywhere near you. You will get deleted and break your keyboard in frustration.
@@Gl1tchman it does have good low speed HANDLING but not in the sense it would wobble and fall apart but rather have smooth corrections and precision tuning, it ain't a good low speed fighter like the Spitfire or the J2M2 or even the I225 which wobbles a lot but I've managed to out fight stuff unexpectedly, probably not very good players, probably i225 is a true stall monster.
@@Gl1tchman the F-14A beats the mirage 2000 in the 1 circle in warthunder, duel me. I will prove you wrong >:)
These german peeps keep surprising me
oh lawd he did it to him
I had to do it to em
"idk where you get the energy from" EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY SAY THIS
Step 1. Never talk any air rb context to vte member.
Step 2. Fw 190 can outdogfight spitfite
Step 3. 🤯🤯🤯
This is it. This channel is now EGO DUEL focused, yeah baby!
Fun fact:A german pilot named EGOn meyer is credited for shooting down 52 supermarine spitfires,He mainly uses FW-190.
the double down lmfao
all i know is a plane doesn't retain energy like that
I love my War Thunder Dueling Community skull moments
its always the anime pfp bro keep making these I love seeing their reactions
The next thing the guy is gonna do is probably read a lot of German revisionist books and claiming himself to be a [insert pop culture celebrity] of the Fw 190
Smartest German main
Average war thunder player thinking their p47 can outturn a zero without using flaps or cutting throttle but instead going vertical in front of the enemy loosing all energy
not the "going in for seconds" 15bis duels
:trollface: "mY tHeorY Is StiLL rIGht"
This is a certified GLITCHED classic.
>anime pfp
Every single time
Gets pissed and releases classified documents to prove his point...........
The entirety of the Japanese fighter tech tree be like:
Am I a joke to you?
Excellent music selection. Hotline Miami soundtrack 🤝
Yeah HM soundtracks are some of my fave for games, i had to think for a solid 30 min tho before reminding myself of this.
Beats an altitude fighter on low altitude, refuses to elaborate, wins, chad behavior imo
This is why I stay away from dogfights and stick to ground!😅
Just know when your beat and stay down.
Dogfighting is a learned skill like most things, i myself have a lot to learn and made quite a few mistakes in these fights. There's no shame in being worse than someone unless you're trying to brag. 🤷♂
@@Gl1tchman I do learn from someone in my squad he used to be one of the top pilots in Warthunder at one point and when I fight him it’s obvious he is…
I changed him to a fight in the Phantom Gr.1 he took the same plane and I lost the only thing different about are planes was mine was a little more completed his was new…
pure fucking gold, that guy was as braindead as a flamingo, that man is seething
Sheesh this guy is a true meme. He doesn't know the 190 that much, can't say it but.. sheesh dude you literally obliterated him.
I feel like as much as people say this is a realistic game it at the end of a day still a video game and should be treated as such
Yeah, just because the gamemode is called "realistic" that doesn't mean it quite is. Last i checked pilots IRL couldn't sustain 9G turns and planes couldn't sustain 13G pulls.
That. Made. My fucking day. Glitched thank you
Glad to hear you like it.
the spongebob music makes this montage 999% better
I'm wheezing
"yis yis muh fuking wolf autism plane called Dora the Explorer can out turn the spitfire"
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Man I’m so glad this popped up in my recommended!
0:53, correct me if im wrong, but he could've won here??
Spit has come out of a turn, has dropped energy and has dropped altitude, 190 already has better energy retention, 190 could just fly straight up, maybe in a steep spiral, stall out the spit, pop flaps and kill him? Even if the spit eveades the 190 is now behind and above him so he controls the fight
Epic German main moment
this is quite the horrendous flying, he didn’t use snaproll nor energy fighting, not even a negative G roll to try and get away
Funny to see this type of people using boom and zoom aircraft for horizontal manuever and low altitude fighting
I’ve never played the spitfires or the Doras, but I did some flight model testing and I think the LF MK 9 only begins loosing to the P51 H5 in a sustained turn at 600 kmph+ which is incidentally the max speed of the LF MK9 (at sea level). And iirc the P51 H5 turns better than the Doras.
was about to ask the french yak 3 costs but the video entertains me a lot that made me forgot to ask. Anyway, great vid and I'm hoping for the yak 3 answers in the future, have a good day.
god I love when people that don't play British planes think they can easily wipe the floor. nah man as long as the hispanos are fully modified your going to lose
*I wish I had Defyn in my friends list so we could do some shenaniganeries.*
bro got violated
how on earth do you play air RB this long and not realize that any turnfight a 190 wins against a spitfire is due to either team tactics or huge mistakes by the spitfire pilot. 190s aren't bad, but there's only so much you can do with that thing in the maneuverability department.
man got clowned on, gg matey.
Did bro really just try to turnfight against a spitfire?
A plane notorious for it's downright crazy turnfighting ability?
The simple matter of fact is, that he intiated a turn fight that he could not win :D :D
We need another vid of this, but you the one who flies the bf 109
The spitfire would still win x)
@@Gl1tchman no
@@PanzerSteinn If you put a BF-109 K4, with Max Mods Max Crew etc up Against one The Mk XIVe Spittty with max crew mods etc and both pilots were equal in skill, the Spitfire would still win.
Now I say some questionable stuff in this game but this here makes me feel pretty good and is proof some people have 0 clue about stuff
surprised its a Rei pfp, gonna take a fat guess and say he hasnt watched the show
Do the 6th army next lol
I think it says everything ,that he actually got renamed.
Those Hispanos go hard
Gods content
wait isint the fw 190s made for boom and zoom?
FW190 is just a German P-47. It is great in straight line and dive speed, nothing else. Climb is terrible, handling is awful, absolute brick.
The Spitfire is very maneuverable while remaining fast and has very good acceleration and climb rate. It is not for nothing that many said Spitfire won the war : best fighter of the Second World War.
I get chatting shit and ending up in an ego duel. Been in both your shoes and his. And eating humble pie sucks, so I get that too. But I don't get not being a normal person and just admitting that you ran into someone better than you and being decent about it. The double down is fatherless behavior.
What a clownery. Even an elite FW190 player would have trouble killing a good Spit 1v1. FW190 were never designed to actually dofight. It was an air-superioty fighter. Aka 3rd party killer, and it was extremely good at that.
i main germany and i know for a fact that a phat fucking 190 cannot out turn a spitfire going mach 1.3
Wtf went through there head when saying a D9 would beat a spitfire in a dogfight especially a lfmk9
Space jam makes it hit the spot that much better
But theoretically can a Fw190 consistently beat Spitfires in a dogfight and if so how?
maybe if the spitfire pilot is an idiot. The Fw190 excel at bnz tactic but will get murdered by a spitfire in a turning fight.
Spitfire vs j2m2 would be a much better match up.
lmao geamr using the omegalul, what a champ
the fw190 is the best plane of the world!
big fan of the duel series
average weeb main
I mean, if you play very long and slowly bnr the spitfire enough you could probably kill it, ive done that a few times
*discord plob*
*Defyn joins*
"Who the fuck is this?"
Lmao
But bro there's no way you can maintain energy like that! Hacker smh #reported
True, there is no possible way i could end up out energying his 0% throttle full airbrake openers
but the boy has a big ego xDDDD
for the entire video I thought you were the one with the anime pfp and I was confused as fuck
Damn it's always the people with anime pfp that'll go and embarrass themselves like this
bozo 😭
is there a reason that you're using a british spitfire?
Come at me bro.
Chao5 Reloaded
I’ll wreck your spitfire with my yak 3
Good
Gold
Who tf is dat defyn dood in background mann ong
Not impressing or unexpected,maybe the reverse duel would ve been something,what does this want to mean??
Always a pleasure to see foolish players humbled after talking a bunch of nonsense
I love this plane
Loved it
Try the I-225
why even bother being so mean to randoms, will you please be kinder
You have to do more duel videos 3700 views says it all
I don't understand people, at least before pretending to be the best player at LEAST check the other guy stat
Not even that, simply not be so dead sure about things he did not test against anyone competent, it's actually incredible 😭
@@Gl1tchman u pretending too much here lol
@@Gl1tchman 60% of WT players win 2 "dogfight" and think they are the best player on the game. So I am not surprised.
But the guy here basically saw the stat and sad that grand targets are like air targets. And that was an impressive argument.....