Is Dissociative Identity Disorder REAL? Psychiatrist explores
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2022
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Dissociative identity disorder known as MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER is a complex psychological condition that follows severe trauma during early childhood.
What causes it? Is it real?
Does DR Das believe in it?
What is an infamous landmark case of its being faked by a serial killer?
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Like you said de realisation and depersonalisation is quite common in those who’ve experienced childhood trauma. I’m wondering though if one of the reasons the jury is out on DID is maybe due to the rarity of it?
My personal guess is a lot of people don't want to acknowledge the horrible things some kids go through. To acknowledge DID would be to face those horrors and beleive they happened to the most innocent people.
Its sadly not that rare. About 1% of the population has it. Its just easier to say anyone with DID is faking the disorder as well as the abuse.
@@tinaleehe Largely agreed.
@@tinaleehe exactly.
@@tinaleehe True.
In answer to the question, - it is yes. In the Mental Health SW team, I was in, also a Forensic semi-secure unit for a period, and from 28 years of experience - only once. She would ring the office using different names and voices from her primary "self". This was, for a time, very confusing - but eventually, we realised it was one and the same person. (there is more - like the main self would arrive for appointments and deny any knowledge of previous phone calls that was expressing concern and issues with different names and personas). So, all i can say was that this was my experience, but am not qualified to state for 100% certain. However, folks, if you want a really great book about this, I recommend a now ex-NHS excellent Clinical Psychologist - Dr Phil Mollon's book and experiences of this - "Multiple Selves, Multiple Voices - Working with Trauma, Violation and Dissociation" - Wiley Press 1996. This is a brilliant but somewhat disturbing account of this phenomenon. Read it - if you can get it, you will not regret it.
I believe it is a real disorder that is horribly stigmatised. My friend’s mum has it and it’s incredibly debilitating and it saddens me that people don’t believe it’s real, just because they haven’t seen a case themselves.
Totaly agree. It's a shame!
Well it's in the DSM the big psychiatric handboek so they can't denie. It's the media that presents a wrong image of Did.
@@PS-wi6qv yeah, it confuses me that some still take an ‘agnostic’ stance when there is the literature to support its validity
@@joclark4619 exactly and that's difficult for patients who can't receive the help they need.
@@joclark4619 Bingo!
Been watching you for a while and I’m finally starting to get your humour.
You’re a funny guy Dr Sohom.
shhh. Don't tell anybody else
I had DID until I was about 43 years old. I had 13 alters ranging from 3 years old to 70 years old. I had male alters, female alters and non human alters. Each of them developed to protect me in one way or another. Violence on my part, would not have deterred my father from harming me. My father is a tyrannical sadist. He got off on causing me fear and pain. He enjoyed causing emotional pain as well.
I was 18 months old the first time I remember being sexually assaulted. I was under 5 years old the first time I remember being sexually assaulted by my father. None of the alters that came from that were violent. Some of them were a buffer between me and the memories of trauma. They had the burden of holding on to those terrifying events so that I wouldn't have to. A lot of them were able to keep me functional despite severe ongoing stress, so that I would still eat, pay the rent on time and make sure that I used the toilet and other basic hygiene. I didn't know that I had it until I was 43, but I had to fight the impulse to refer to myself as " us" or "we". I had long gaps in my memories. I would find entries in my journal that were not in my handwriting. If I was injured, I find that first aid been administered but there wasn't anyone who could have cleaned wounds or apply bandages. I called the ability to function when I wasn't present, my autopilot.
I had a friend who told me about conversations that they'd had with me, but I have no memory of them. She said that one of my alters was interested in her romantically. She said that I wasn't the only person who she had met who has this condition. There was an acquaintance in the domestic violence shelter who asked me for advice on how to communicate with her friend who has DID. I also met a fellow resident at the shelter who said that she had DID. She said that she was trying very hard to avoid switching while she was here.
I think that it is absolutely deplorable for people who don't have this condition, to fake it so that they can escape the consequences of violent crimes. It's what makes a lot of people scared of people who have DID. A person who had DID is no more likely than people who don't have it, to commit violent crimes. It's made my life much harder. When people found out that I had DID, they would often become afraid of me, even though my mood was extremely stable.
My mind didn't integrate until I moved away from my family and cut off contact with them. After moving away from them, it was safe for me to speak freely about my trauma. My father had aways told me not to talk to mandate reporters about the things that happened in our home. I am in therapy and have a good psychiatrist. I didn't want to integrate. My alters provided me with unconditional love and a safe family, which were things that I didn't have from anyone. I valued and loved all of my alters. I loved thier individuality. I wasn't always present, but I knew that I could trust my system to keep my life together as long as I communicated what needed to be done to make sure that I have a place to live and get to doctors appointments on time.
Hi Dr. Das. My daughter is bipolar & scitzoeffective. Does that have anything to do with DID? Like your channel & will watch again. You're one of my favorite channels on You Tube. Could you do a video on what kind of people do death hoaxes? There were quite a few recently that ended up being totally fake. Peace & hopefully happy times await you & your family, love, Janine Smiley🙂😀🤩😎🤗🍿🍫🍦🍨🍧🥧☕🎂🍭🎧🎸🎶🎵🌚🌜🌛🌝🌞🚘🎢🎡🏡
Hi On a. Sending blessings to you across the Oceans from South Australia. I have DID. I really resonated with you, and found my own situation similar to yours. I really appreciated your expression of the DID experience. I have 8 head mates, of 4 front regularly. When I was 15, I saw a totally different person in the mirror looking back at me which freaked my out. I had no one to talk to about it so I suffered the shock alone. I remember another time where I saw in the mirror a image slide from someone, into myself. Switching is real. And the brain is an amazing organ to be able to develop a coping mechanism for traumatized situations. I also am high functioning and have a system that works on my behalf when I'm dissociative. I love my crew. I have a live Investigation with the Australian Police, in regards to my past abusers in my childhood. But even police don't fully understand the DID... there is much to learn about the topic, and how the system works for people like you and me.
Thankyou for sharing your story.
@@janinemccartha1811 you aren't replying to a dr.
@Ona Ari -- Thank you so much for sharing your story. I can't begin to imagine how difficult it must have been to come face to face with the reality of missing blocks of time -- hours or days when you had no recollection whatsoever of what you had said or done, or who you talked to or said to them. Anyway, I'm glad to know that, in time, you learned to cope with the existence of "alters" who, thankfully, were good and kind versions of your true self. God bless you and keep you well, safe, and happy. ❤️🌷
TLDR
WhT you had was a good imagination
I’m not knowledgeable enough to say if it’s real or not however I will always remember a documentary about the ambulance service and the cases they deal with, they were called to a man clearly suffering great emotional distress from what he said was DID, people weren’t believing him and no one was helping ease his suffering and watching that poor man crying and just wanting to get support was really horrible. I think it’s very possible for a condition to be extremely rare but that doesn’t mean it’s non existent so your approach of not ruling out it’s existence while making sure you don’t get taken advantage of is probably best in your area of medicine. Thanks for the video, it’s an interesting topic
I explained my mom to a psychiatrist and he told me she had this ,at the time i did not know what it meant but I do know what growing up with this unstable person was like.
He diagnosed her without meeting her?
Love your sense of humour, was laughing all the way through. Keep it up!
Yep, a real schrink❤😂
I've never met anyone diagnosed with DID, but I had a co-worker once whose mum has been diagnosed with it and I have seen very convincing video footage of people diagnosed with DID "switching" between their alternate personalities. Their behaviour, mimics, speaking patterns, gestures and baseline posture completely changed, but not in a dramatic way like it is sometimes portrayed in movies with characters suffering from DID, so I guess these people were either MUCH better actors like most actors playing DID patients in movies, or DID is real. I remember a then about 40yo woman, who supposedly has about a dozen personalities or personality fragments "sharing the same body", who was asked to let her 13yo male alter ego "come to the front". Her eyes and facial expression just went blank for a second or two and then everything about her changed.. She became a thirteen year old boy, who described how he had applied for a driver's liscence using the lady's passport, took driving lessons without her knowing and then got caught speeding, driving "his" husband's car. "He" perfectly appeared to be a slightly antisocial brat, who was still proud about having managed to obtain a driver's liscence without the lady nor her hubby noticing until he got caught speeding, but also seemed slightly embarrassed about having been caught and about having to talk about it on TV. The scary thing was, that he also appeared to be somewhat smarter than the lady's "real" personality.
I was told after the 1st couple yrs of therapy that i dissociate I said what is that ? The therapist then explained it is something my brain automatically does since childhood as a coping mechanism and that I need to try and control it 26 yrs later still under mental health services and more therapy DBT etc I still don't know how to stop it I get accused of not listening to family members friends etc when in the moment i have I also have Borderline personality disorder and few other diagnoses sadly 😥
Thank you so much for this explanation,safe to say I was absolutely clueless about this until I watched this.
Seems very familiar with a few well known murderers that have come to prominence over the years.
The damage done in childhood seems to be far better understood,would be interesting to know how(if you can) you go about treating someone with this disorder?
Very complex having entire personality’s to deal with trauma.
Dr. Das I just saw you doing the show Mr. Black Pasta, you were wonderful! I can’t wait to dive into your channel. Have a great day!
I've been diagnosed DID, but personally am still aware of my alter, don't generally have episodes of loss of memory. The way I explain it is when your brain can't reconcile the horror your going through with everyday life you develop a separate person to deal with and hold the trauma memories so you can continue your daily life...if that extreme abuse continues that second personality grows along side you. I never had issues with my alter unless I was pushed to breakdown point as an adult, then the alter which protected as a child would try to protect the now adult me. But as I never learnt to control this person who was only needed a few hrs at a time as a child was suddenly being called on constantly as I as an adult was in a narcissistic relationship. I had a mental snap and the alter wreaked havoc. The way I explain it...imagine you are a normal functional adult, friends, work, study, religious life, stability, you go to bed after having gone to church the day prior...you wake up and your children don't recognise you...physically your the same but your energy, presence, personality are so radically different they don't recognise you. You are trapped behind a glass window in your mind, you can see and hear everything and your screaming Iam here but no one can hear you, you're no longer in the driver seat.
The alter is an abnoxious horny teenager, who will have no concept of safety, protection, is completely out to rebel, by the end of the day you have a random tattoo, have worked in a brothel, and placed yourself in considerable danger, have taken up smoking, drinking, pot.
You sit back behind the glass in defeat, wondering when the nightmare will end, will there be anything left of your life when finally you are allowed out, and when that day comes you are left with a trail of carnage.
Your religious group have turned on you, your marriage is in ruins, you may lose your children due to mental health instability, you were at uni or work and that got cancelled, your children, family and friends look at you like your a walking freak they don't know, you physical appearance has changed with tattoos piercings ect, and you can have longer consequences such as STDs or unplanned pregnancies, could find yourself having engaged in a same sex situation...the possibilities you find yourself in are endless.
If you imagine a refined, highly dignified, super religious hetrosexual woman, strict values, no vices....opposite a teenage, masculine female, who loves everything the first hates...drugs, alcohol, smoking, sex addict, rebellious, not able to conform to anything...put them in the same room and watch the fireworks...now put them in the same body...then add a third alter a psychologist who tries to counsel both and find a middle ground or a workable medium for them both.
I've spent my adult life denying my DID as I didn't want to believe it and I don't fit what is known of it necessarily...but I have to admit I do have it...not all of what I have stated above has happened to me but a lot of it has...if you consider yourself accomplished and you had a crisis like a loss of job, how would you feel if a young obnoxious teen came in then proceeded to destroy everything else that was keeping you stable.
To this day I've not been able to complete uni as the moment there is pressure for deadlines, out comes the teen...thankfully I'm somewhat more integrated and I've learnt to just keep all doors open, one day I study Islam, the next stoicism, for the next month completely over religion and into all the arts...it means I'm eclectic and always changing and beliefs moving, but managing to keep a solid moral compass for continuity...for the most part, never can offer absolutes as never know how long I will be in charge so learning to include alter rather than blocking.
Hard work but life is never dull, and even though it's my alter I always accept responsibility and say...yeah I did that...me and alter need to have more work.
Hope this helps those studying it or who are professionals and those who can identify with this. To those who live this I would say let go of the need for control and perfection, make your home your safe place, and think of it this way...you have inside you a fierce lion who protected you, who held memories to painful for you to hold, they allowed you to grow and build a life and family, success...you shoved them in a dark dungeon refusing to ever let them see the light of day, and punish them when they come out...they are the reason you are alive, and you need to show this most tortured damaged part of you the love, safety and compassion you deserved as a child, throw the lock and key away and show patience...these words came from my oldest boy and are some of the wisest words I've heard. I hope they help you too.
I haven't got the skill to make a diagnosis, but I have stopped watching Dr Grande
@tina silver. me too! Dr. Grande has lost what ever little credibility he once had for me.
Good because Grande is awful. His specialty is only in counseling and the schools he went to are all bottom of the barrel.
He only considers what might be happening in a situation like this, Sohom's medical degree gives him more patient contact I feel.
@@alasdairbaird7303 lol yes, you are right, it's what he says before going on to make a precise point by point diagnosis of the issues.
@@anotherblonde just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video just speculating on what could be happening in a situation like this... don't forget to like and click on the subscribe button etc. I think that's pretty close to what he says.
A good list of points, thanks for addressing it here for us.
I just watched Soft White Underbelly recording of a woman who'd mother was 'diagnosed' with DID. I needed to understand this more clearly.
Great channel. I came here on MrBlack's recommendation. Very enlightening.
With your perspective as a consultant criminal psych, I can understand why you talk about this in the context of criminals trying to fake it. It may have been good to clarify that the vast majority of people with DID (or OSDD-1) never commit crimes.
Also Comparing it to supernatural things people might beleive was a really shitty thing to do.
You had a really good description of what dissociation is. I'm also very glad you clarified it can be experienced in multiple disorders as in the beginning it came across as dissociation = DID
I really liked you explaining how it's not Schizophrenia and how it's different. In your explaining how people try to fake it, that seems to come up as people say they have the wrong symptoms 😋
I really hate being compared to Split 😭 but I understand that's the most well known media about it. I just hate it so much.
I absolutely LOVE that you talked about identity alteration and confusion! So few videos do.
Though at the very end you made it seem like dissociation is only Derealization or Depersonalization. You left out dissociative amnesia, identity confusion, and identity alteration 😕
Fugue states as well. Seen that once.
Thank you for saying this.
Another great video, especially as the rise of creators on tiktok with this illness and some of the doubts viewers have over if they really do suffer from dissociative identity disorder , I see some creators have been caught out for faking tourettes too. Would love to know your opinion
I have seen it and I NEVER believed it did before I actually met this person. I met this person while we were both patients in a a mental hospital. I was not privy to her diagnosis prior to seeing her "switch" personalities with no clue once she switched back
Thank you for this video , I found it interesting because I think I was diagnosed with this last year ,but parts of it are what I suffer from and other bits are not applicable to me so I don't know if it was a correct diagnosis , I have CPTSD from childhood SA and I have memory issues with my whole childhood and I did have different ways of coping with my life , but that could just be how I got through my life ,but I used to think we were all like dolls and something was controlling us , like we were dolls in a doll house ,but I don't know if the diagnosis is right or if it exists , or if I was just coping with everything like anyone else would and once the abuse ended I was just left with PTSD .
I don’t appreciate ‘Split’ being used as a comparable for DID. There is a slim to no chance of a violent alter and no superpowers.
Strangely enough the film Primal Fear was on free to air last night in Australia.
Ed Norton's first feature film and it involved MPD as it was then known.
Excellent film. Glad you mentioned. Norton's acting was amazing! Have a decent wkd.
I've been in the I/DD field, dealing with folks coming from secure units or closed "hospitals and training centers" for almost 2 decades. My 'specialty', so to speak, is dealing with those who have I/DD with mental health problems. In my career, I've never seen DID but I'm also agnostic on it too. The folks that have been in my care, directly or indirectly as I moved up along the management chain, have had horrific trauma and backgrounds, especially my survivors of the training centers where SA and PA was the expectation for most there, along with involuntary experimentation.
I'm curious, Dr. Das, in the UK's situation with their group homes and abuse that often follows the hospitals/homes from the earlier years- have you ever dealt with cases who have intellectual and developmental disabilities with mental illness who committed crimes? How did you manage to address it, if so?
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We are asked if we believe in this disorder and I have to say absolutely yes
I’ve seen it twice maybe I wouldn’t be fully convinced yet if it wasn’t that one of those patients was four years old child that at that point had not had any intervention at any level, not even for what was traumatising her.
Intervention took 3 years and the Perpetrator got 15 years (perhaps should have been more but that’s my opinion)
In fact it was a visual observation of this child’s immature but obvious switching that first started to alert professionals to the horrific nature of her life at that time
The other person was a female young adult who also has had a horrific past. She was a general patient when I met her in A & E
Initially I found her extremely confusing to talk to Until a couple of things happened in her assessment that made me go ‘geez I need psych here now’
Thank goodness for the specialist
It’s not a good thing to say but wonderful thing to do - hand complex cases on
Thanks for the video doctor Das - informative as always
good stuff
This is my burden--I have 4 that I know of and each has a name--started in first grade, I don't even know which is the real me. I have yet to find medical help for this. From extreme abuse as a child. Psychiatrists either don't believe me or have no clue what to do. I have no legal troubles and so no reason to try to convince a Dr. They do not believe nor do they offer any other kind of diagnosis. One even told me not to bother to come back.
I'm sorry that you have not been able to find the compassionate care you deserve.
I live in Australia and even here treatment is rare and expensive...the basic way I've moved into healing with DID is to sit and do a list of core beliefs and traits of each...as each serves a purpose...or served a purpose in childhood...the main thing is you need to be in a safe environment, preferably with a person or people you trust around you. Try to compile a list of beliefs values ect that you don't want to compromise on, things you'll negotiate on and even if you put the list up where you can see it, then all personas can assess if they are cooperative...I'm lucky in that I am aware of all alters so we can work together.
But most of all investigate psychologists who specifically work with complex childhood trauma and they will have to confront their bias when fronted with an alter...they won't be doubters for long, if they are no good keep going don't give up till you find a good one...the goal is integration, I'm still not fully integrated but flow peacefully between them and now am starting to integrate naturally....learn to love accept and include all parts of you and I pray you find healing to a point where it no longer effects you as drastically.
I don't know personally if it can be fully healed but life can and does get better...God bless you
I have actually observed this in 3 different people that I used to know. It is very very real. I knew a brother and sister who experienced Ritual Sexual Abuse by their Uncle growing up. The brother had a confirmed diagnosis of 18 different MPD Personalities. He showed Us His back and there was massive scarring from being whipped. I was in an utter state of shock seeing this. His Sister who was very very intelligent and gorgeous drank herself to death at age 34. Just horrific.💔💔
I knew a woman who has been diagnosed with D.I.D as well as additional personality disorders. If she perceived she was under attack she would become aggressive & at times violent. Very scary individual to be around when the abuse started. From another episode you did, you listed the pros & cons of labeling disorders. This was definitely a con as she used it as an excuse for her behaviour.
I'm a child and adolescent psychiatrist and I've never seen a plausible case of DID. I've had more than one patient that walked away "cured" after I confronted the inconsistencies in their dissociative symptoms and stories and they have admitted they were faking things the whole time. Unfortunately it's a bit of a trend on TikTok, and it's complicated by the fact that dissociation is very real and assume that any dissociation is a sign of DID rather than a symptom unto itself. Great video, keep it up!
Well, you wouldn’t see one, since you treat children and adolescents. DID does not show up in children and adolescents the way appears in your thirties or forties. It is a 100% real disorder. I find it important to inform psychiatrists of this phenomenon, since I know you didn’t study it in school. A child or adolescent will not have defined alters. Why? Because like any aspect of personality, alters take time to form. Have a nice day.
@@DIDHatchery I also treat adults. Child and adolescent psychiatry was a fellowship after I transitioned out of full-time adult psychiatry, but I still see adults as a good portion of my practice. That you think we "didn't study it in school" is laughable. I spent 13 years in training, I learned plenty about DID backwards and forwards. I know a great number of psychiatrists, personally, as they're my colleagues and coworkers and not one of us has ever seen a case we feel to be legitimate with regard to DID. A small number of LCSWs and a smaller number of psychologists may claim to have a case, but they tend to cluster with specific therapists who "specialize" in the condition and other clinicians tend to strongly disagree with their assessments of these patients. It is, quite frankly, amusing that someone who has never trained to be a psychiatrist sees it fit to tell me what I did and did not study in my training and to "inform" me of things that I know much more about than yourself. I strongly ascribe the the iatrogenic and sociocognitive etiology of DID as a phenomenon, and am in the 79% of psychiatrists that do not believe that there is a strong basis for DID as a condition. Experiments have clearly demonstrated that the amnestic barrier is not present, and thus the foundation of DID as originally described is nonexistent. Based upon this and a preponderance of evidence, I strongly believe it should be removed from the DSM unless much better data can be found in favor of the condition, as do many other psychiatrists. There was a strong discussion about removing it in the DSM-5 but this was derailed by special interests, unfortunately.
@@AModernRogue Have you ever thought that those with DID cluster around therapists with the specialty because they know they can get treatment without being told the disorder does not exist?
@@AModernRogue
So, if you have decided that this disorder does not exist, how can you effectively, objectively, evaluate your patients for this condition?
You can't.
You do your clients a disservice with your arrogant aditude on this subject.
@@marshawerner7882 Or those in the specialty prey upon victims that they can tell what they want to hear in exchange for profit, rather than sorting out what is actually going on. It's the same as a doctor running a pill mill that only treats anxiety and hands out benzos to every patient, and you'll hear the same retort from their patients. "Oh, but he is the only one that understands how severe my anxiety is and treats it properly." Giving patients what they want rather than good care is bad at best and criminal at worst, and I mean that quite literally.
Very persuasive as ever. Probably apocryphal but I love the story about the US psychiatrist who billed his client for each separate personality. BTW would love your take on Chandler Halderson, a seemingly normal American boy who just happened to shoot and dismember his parents.
Have you seen any cases that you believe have been misdiagnosed by accident rather than for any type of personal gain? If so what is the most common correct diagnosis?
Very interesting thank you
I've been fascinated with DID for more than 20 years now and have read numerous books
about it. Scientific books as well as biographies and autobiographies. Although each case involves severe trauma and unspeakable atrocities done to little children, one case in particular still haunts me to this day. Even though I've read the book about 15 years ago. Trudi Chase: Voices within. A little child, I believe she was a toddler when the abuse started, experiences the absolute worst and most traumatic forms of sexual abuse. Coming from her closest familiy members, the mother, the uncle, the brothers(!), The abuse is so enormous and deviant, that the born personality entirely disappears, or maybe died(?) when Trudi was about 2 years old. Because the abuse lasted many years and happened so many times, her mind split again and again and apparently let her reach adulthood with 96 alters. The original personality never appeared again. The Host Personality, as I understand it, got replaced with an alter, that became the new main identity. The one with the name Trudi, the name on her drivers license, passport and legal documents etc. She doesn't have co-consciousness, that's why she has years of complete memory and loss of consciousness, like being blacked out from alcohol, but instead of waking up the next morning with a few hours missing, Trudi gained back consciousness one day and 5 years had gone by. 5 years with absolutely no recollection or memory. I mean sure, moronic Kenneth Bianchi trying to fake it and really bad too, stupid as he is, I get when you say you're kinda agnostic about the whole thing. But Trudi Chase's terrifying biography/autobiography, with graphically detailed descriptions of her live and her therapist giving document of the intense therapy sessions and suicide attempts...Me, for one, I believe in it, it is actually a tremendously abstract way of survival and the complexity of the human mind. The ISST-The International Society for the study of Trauma and Dissociation run a top notch research and training. Including a therapy facility in Texas
What about when you talk to yourself and create scenarios in your head to relieve stress? Because I have normalized an abnormal triat where I just slip into my mind and create scenarios when I am in extreme stress or depression
Would that be intrusive thoughts?
what’s your book called?
"In Two Minds" - it's on Amazon. I urge you to purchase immediately. x
I watched a documentary about an Australian woman who has dissociative identity disorder. She hasn't committed any crimes. It developed because of the sadistic sexual abuse her father inflicted on her from a very young age. Her condition appeared real and genuine to me.
I have an ultra rare condition that I call a Twin Sister Identity and it is a REAL condition with an even rare story ... In fact, it saved my life because I was living in the worst situation ever, trying to keep my ducks in a row and not seeing that people were taking advantage of me. Anyway, my mental twin sister's name was SOFIE and I had a reminder that was strange enough to keep the parasites away. When I got into the twilight zone (2011) I got flash backs, remembering that I was Sofie Vangenechten, a real person of my age, the daughter of two dentists in Hove, where I lived the first 21 years of my life. Sofie Tandarts (Dutch translation of dentist) -> Sofie TS (first and last letter of tandarts) -> Sofie Taes ... What possibly could go wrong? Well, it did go wrong when someone called herself Sofie Taes for real, it could be a coincidence, another person with the same name, but it is not a coincidence that she claimed to be in relationship with Patrick (Denecker) - the man I completely fell in love with when he told me that he and his girl friend (Sofie Taes) decided to go seperate ways. It took years to understand what had happened and I can't change the story, that is not very gentile, but the fact that I have experiences that can learn us a thing or two about who we really are - leading to a -*-One World Vision on Humanity-* makes it somehow necessay to have a start into my proper life. I decided to write an autobiography, putting the different side stories together and will give it the title: Ultima Ultima Thule, The Perfect Story. Maybe, this psychiatrist and I will meet one day and have a good conversation. I'm looking forward for it because I need no therapy, I need someone to UNDERSTAND how trivial things have become the worst wort-case scenario ever, what's happened with humanity that we've become such a destructive cell?
This reads a bit like someone experiencing psychosis or mania. It's long and disjointed.
There was an episode of Hoarders (A&E channel in the U.S.) where the daughter of the hoarder said she had DID. I can see why someone facing charges would lie about having a disorder. But I always wondered whether her diagnosis was real because she didn't do anything strange at all and really had no reason to lie about it (or tell anyone for that matter). For the curious: ua-cam.com/video/EP1mUu-9MjQ/v-deo.html
This one made me wonder about how trauma effects people in different ways for example ptsd and the condition in this video. It also makes me wonder whats the difference between this and borderline personality disorder.
The disorders are very different, although frequently comorbid.
I worked in a Psych Hospital with a Dr who ruined many lives believing in this non diagnosis i 💕
If you haven’t already, I’d love to hear an analysis of someone like Kim Noble or Truddi Chase. I’ve been interested in DID since reading about MKUltra and didn’t realise that it isn’t a confirmed condition. Would be great to get a professional analysis of some footage
An interesting fact about the Hillside Strangler was that his second attempt at claiming innocence was when he manipulated a woman into reenacting his MO to prove the Hillside Strangler was still active and thus, could not be him. He even supplied her with his, uh, DNA to plant inside the poor woman. Luckily the woman was unable to follow through and let her victim escape.
Have you done a video on clozapine I take 450mg for paranoid schizophrenia
Interesting stuff! Related to this, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Parkland school shooter. He claimed this in his interrogation with the police. They didn't buy it all...
I would like his opinion also because ,the kid had been put on meds multiple times checked in and out of psych wards. Cops fbi all are at fault ,cops had frequent contact ,so who cares what cops believe, sick or not he should never walk free again.
I fall into the category of believing DID is *possible* but extremely rare. I bought your book the other day and I'm actually looking forward to my 6hr flight on Monday because of it!
Very kind of you. Enjoy! x
I used to think it was real, but that was before I found out the story of Sybil was fake. I guess anything is possible.
Inside the minds of Billy Milligan might be total fake too. I recommend to read Trudi Chase: Voices within and Cameron West: First person plural
Just to jump topic for a moment I do suffer with depression and anxiety and I am trying to lean to help me as much as anything but what if you have a family member who thinks it's all bull and won't even discuss things when you need it most just to say it dose run though my family my father suffered and my cousin killed himself all from the same side of the family I can't ever remember felling happy, going back to my relative how to let him know when I feel at my worst as he tends to stay away and that makes things worse I'm in my 60 now but have suffered since I was a child but started to look for help when I was about 14 teen there is not much out there to help and as you get older there is even less it too 40 years to find the right medication but even then I still get down but I was told its not a cure, sorry I do go on a bit I know didn't have a fantastic child hood either always felt unloved and not liked and when one left the other took over, my main question is how do I bring this person to help as I can't help how I feel.
I was very sceptical but the brain is still not fully understood and I suppose its possible but doubtful
I don’t think your comments are unfair, but I think all mental health professionals should remember when treating people that at one stage we didn’t believe schizophrenia or even anxiety or depression existed.
Unfortunately a lot of people will be met with “your condition doesn’t exist” if they are diagnosed by someone who does believe in the condition and is treating the patient and so those people will find it hard to get ongoing support and even compassionate treatment or allowances made (like they would for a patient with PTSD).
Lucky for me, I only have complex PTSD which is mostly recognised now. But I think the biggest thing mental health professionals should take from this is compassion toward those they treat and that as I said in the beginning, we are always learning, the DSM has been changed so much because it isn’t actually always right and needs updating as we realise just how much more can happen with mental illness.
I agree.
Really interesting that you consider your scepticism to come from your agnostic views. To me, agnosticism implies that DID could be the case for somebody so I'd at least want to explore the possibility. Even if it is rare, it could be a possibility and at least seems to be for some people.
I consider myself agnostic too but I'd apply my stance with sort of thing in terms of either proof or disproof - either, we can use any existing evidence to prove or disprove that a person is actually having these experiences. I guess I've seen quite convincing cases elsewhere so I would assume it is a possibility from the get go and seek to disprove it if it was a criminal making these claims. I fear it could be quite damaging for most people who genuinely have this condition to have such methodology applied, surely it would be beneficial to to want to build evidence to prove the condition explains this person's experience in that case.
A really interesting point for me is what happens to somebody who is found to have DID after committing a crime. Certainly this person would require support to be rehabilitated into society but the crime may have been committed by an alter ultimately too. Really curious to know how this works if the person with DID eventually becomes 'integrated' as my understanding would be that part of them has actually committed a crime at that point.
As DID is only found in 1-3% of the worlds population (so far), I would think that you would be more open minded about the disorder. Just because I’ve never seen a penguin in person doesn’t mean I’m ‘agnostic’ about whether they are real or not.
Would you be interested in looking at a situation whereas the one with the unwelcome disorder fights back with expert documents and is currently accepted in the Alameda County Superior Court. I can forward you the whole thing if u send me your info.
My psychiatrist thinks I probably have DID (and dissociative movement disorder).
It absolutely is real. I have a family member that I have no doubt that they have DID. I interact regularly with a few different alters that trust me. A couple of them are young alters that look at my son as their best friend because they can be themselves around him and not feel like they are being judged. It takes a lot of therapy to be able to communicate with them and be able to work together. I can see why people might pretend to have DID to try to get away with a crime, but they shouldn't be your reference point for whether it's real or not. It also doesn't seem like you researched this very well either, but that's just my opinion based on the language you've used. I hope you will one day research it more and be open minded when you do eventually meet someone that does have, yet they may not trust you enough if they know your apprehension regarding the disorder.
.....ok imma just close the tab really quietly now. ok.
Dear Doctor
I fear you are looking in the wrong patient pool. For men I think the best case you can analyze is The Minds of Billy Milligan, for women, When Rabbit Howls Trudii Chase. Those two are my go to cases. I have also seen it as a patient in a secure ward. Just remember that like any mental illness, there will be extremes, such as the above, but there are many people who partially disassociate, with or without alters. Sometimes the alter is your brain's off switch. As for Kenneth Bianchi, i have never met someone with DID that committed serial murder. I don't care how many doctors concurred, he pulled one over everyone. The alters are there to save the host, not commit crime. And it was a fine line for Billy Milligan.
well, are there any well documented cases? sources that you trust? i mean i have myself wondered whether this is only some sort of hollywood-invented myth, or reality, since you don't really happen upon real-life cases and it is kind of hard to believe. but hey, i have not seen australia either but i kind of tend to believe it exists. since it seems some people with seemingly educated opinions disagree with parts of your video in the comments, maybe it would be worth further investigating it. i would definitely be interested in a deeper dive, or an interview with a colleague of yours who has or claims to have first hand experience, or even a discussion where experts of contrasting opinions talk to you about this topic, if you can bring something like this under the roof...
this is a very dark topic, im having to dilute it with pop culture.
Saying DID is not an actual diagnosis is a slap in the face to those with the disorder. DID is highly misrepresented in the media, and because some try to "fake it," does not establish the condition is not genuine. DID has been represented in medical literature for hundreds of years. Although "rare" in the general population, it is not uncommon in psychiatric settings and is actually more common than schizophrenia.
ok screw relationship advice. yh, I agree, I do think its probably down to drugs, or severe abuse. I don't think its fully real though, because it takes away a lot of responsibility from grown people.
Look up the UA-cam channel "Multiplicity and Me". I've followed her for years and believe she's the real deal.
What is my favorite channel. This one or Doctor G…? 🤭
Difficult choice...
His old stuff was good now it’s just crime stories 😴
I think it's possible, because I know just what my brain has done to me. the brain is so powerful, just being able to move when you wake up to the mental illnesses we know are real there is no way I can say it's not possible.
Not a "failing, wannabe UA-camr" lol, your videos are very good, you'll catch on! 👍
Maybe 🤔 I think yes. The mind can only handle so much stress. It can manefest in different ways. So in a small percent of the population there will always be some out there occurrences.
We don't have any altars.
sorry rlly wanted to listen to this, but gna go to relationship advice instead. I'm still here tho, this tab is still open. can't process this atm.
Perfect timing. Just started reading "the minds of Billy Milligan". Very interesting. Just about to watch your video now.
Dis sociate
Watch a documentary on here called a broken mind it’s featured on there and the girl that has it is either a fantastic liar or does suffer from it
You should review the content on UA-cam channel DissociaDID.
oh no the orange duck is out of focus this time 🙃
no, he was born blurry
Why doesn’t it say that you are a licensed psych in the uk or wherever under your account? Btw, i don’t believe in DID. Even Sybil wasn’t real. I had a horrific childhood and split the way the human brain does: I disassociated by going outside of my body like some may do at the dentist or while in extreme pain and by just shutting out the memory and not remembering. It’s not like some other person inside me remembers, it’s that it’s buried deep in my psyche for my protection and if i want to examine it i could but I don’t see the point at this time.
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In your segment on Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
You list Dissociative Identity Disorder as a specific feature of C-PTSD.
And in this video, you question whether DID even exists.
That seems contradictory.
I agree he's confused.
always a comedian
I know from my experiences of what I have had happen to ke I know it's got to he real cause of my case
Hello Cruel Cruel Cruel world 🌎
yas Das, get dat mulla
Parapsychologists believe in it and they sure help confuse people.
I know someone diagnosed with, & I believe genuinely suffering from DID.
In high school, she was beautiful & popular & smart (validictorian) & came from a wealthy & respected family. After high school, she married a guy who had his own business, & they were happy for a short time, probably a couple of years, but then his business began to fail, & the couple started taking out loans, & in the most misguided financial plan EVER, going to the casino hoping to double-up on the money they were borrowing, & well, bad went to worse. The bank had seized all the assets from his business. The dealership had repossessed both their vehicles, & they were days away from losing their house to foreclosure. They had dug themselves in so deep in debt, there was seemingly no way out. And that's when they decided to kill themselves in a suicide pact by jumping off the cliffs at Pt Fermin onto the jagged, rocky coastline 100ft below (It's a VERY popular suicide spot, & has been for hundreds of years).
So they gave each other a final kiss & exchanged "I love yous," not exactly happy that it had come to this, but thoroughly convinced there was no other way. They stepped up to the edge of the cliff, took hold of each other's hand, locked eyes for a moment, nodded, & jumped.
She awoke 4 days later in a hospital room, bruised & broken, but alive. Her young husband's dead body had broken her fall just enough to keep her from dying on impact, as he had, just milliseconds earlier. She was never the same again.
That had to have been close to 30 years ago. She still wanders the streets today, homeless & completely out of her mind, trading oral sex for cigarettes & downing vodka like it was water. You never know which of her personalities you'll wind up with. They range from a sweet, squeaky-voiced little girl to a 13th Century German Saint to a ruthless & cunning thief to a witch executed during the Salem debacle to a demon-obsessed & violent protector of innocent babies whom she is sometimes convinced are being killed as human sacrifices.
It's so sad to see this once bright & bubbly homecoming queen standing in the middle of traffic, stopping cars so that she can pray for their drivers' immortal souls.
I can't IMAGINE how she must have felt, waking up in that hospital, disoriented & in pain, & being told that she was alive because her husband was dead?
Whaddaya think, Dr Das? Traumatic enough to split her into dozens of personalities?
Or alternately, for those who believe in God & an afterlife, howzabout this: When she & her husband jumped off that cliff that night, all the disembodied souls from those who had jumped before them & changed their minds halfway down, crammed into her body so that they might have another chance at life?
Great concept for a horror film, don't you think? ✌🏼
That is not DID.
Check out DissosiaDID youtube channel. It's a young woman with this disorder and is showing her switches and alters as well as educating people about this disorder. I also have seen another video on youtube with a woman with this disorder. So I personally believe that it does exist, but unfortunately people who trying to fake it are harming those who really have it. (Hello from Greece!!!).
She's a malingerer, who changes clothes makeup and acts sexy for views. Watch me switch she says. She has zero amnesiac barriers and calls alters at will then makes new ones up. At her court case she said she never switched once. Funny that seeing as all her videos said she was so stressed. Faker
""Hello cruel, cruel world"
lol Good bye.
This is exorcism territory, innit. Can we say that there exists a "delusionality scale" similar to how one speaks of "the autism spectrum"? At one end we have common superstitions and that sort of thing, but at the opposite end things get chtonic. Basically no sense of reality whatsoever. Somewhere in the middle, there may exist individuals who for various traumatic reasons (that can even be mechanical damage to the cranium) have become "fragmented" yet they have developed strategies for survival that may occasionally manifest as "false personalities" even if there is no normal self anymore in the patient. That's the idea I got from this topic.
Your comment is wrong on the facts. And just offensive.
@@gertrudelaronge6864 What a strange and glass-housey display of emotional drama. In what way and to whom is your reply supposed to be useful?
You planning to upload this to TikTok? You should…
Hehehe Hen's Teeth..
This is so rare I think that most of us won’t ever see it in other people or any serial killers. I wonder why you chose this topic?
Pure bs
I'm always willing to be proved wrong, but I doubt that it's real.
I do however believe, that people can behave so different, that it seems like they have more than one personality, but that could just as well be severe and untreated borderline or manic depression.
I believe it's real but more on the Borderline personality disorder side to a server degree. For example being a funny cheerful person then suddenly becoming quite and aggressive or liking cake one day then hating it another day. Hating the goth look one day then wearing goth clothes and loving it another day. Then again this could again just be Borderline personality disorder or bipolar disorder.
accountability personality disorder.
Please stop doing the hand comments, it comes across as silly and anoying! Or at least only once a video.
In my career of nursing and assessing mentally disordered offender's (so some psychiatrist's didn't have to ;-) ) I do not believe in dissociative identity disorder , like you I have seen cases but have been unconvinced.. so I'm more atheist about it..
Its diss-ociative, not dis-as-ociative. When you can't get the name right, even though your content's good, you loose credulity.
To be honest, this is not the first time my 'as' has ended up in the wrong place. I've got a funny feeling it won't be the last.
It's lose not loose
@@fin183 😆😆😆 Thank you! I am guilty of Muphry's Law - 'If you write anything criticizing editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written."
Your vlog with your comments is stigmatising against people with Dissociative identity disorder, BIG TIME. Just because you haven't actually met a patient with this condition, it doesn't mean it's not there. Alot of people who actually have the disorder, don't like to tell everyone because it's not easy for them open up about it, because it's very private. Any mental health condition for that matter. I know two people who have the disorder. One of them I have met their other two alters and the other person I haven't met any of their alters. But they definitely aren't faking. You have no right to stigmatise and judge people who have the condition. You're not very professional and your channel and vlogs should be taken down from UA-cam.
I like your dorky uncle delivery and expertise- but for the love of god you don’t need to shill so much.