R Kelly Was a Sexual Predator But Why Did JUSTICE Take So Long?
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Disgraced R&B star R Kelly has been removed from suicide watch at the Brooklyn jail where he is beginning a 30-year sentence for sex trafficking,
This video delves into the background of R Kelly’s case, and gives YOU, my beautiful viewers some insights into the psychoanalysis of perpetrator.
What character traits encouraged his dastardly deprived acts?
To what degree is the music industry to blame?
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"Hello, horrible, cruel world!" That's some greeting, Dr. D! Well, if I really think about it, what else am I to expect from a psychiatrist whose professional focus is the worst that humanity has to offer? I really enjoy your analyses, Dr. Das, and appreciate the waves of humour you use to soothe the savage beast in all of us.
Your delightful comment makes me think you're a tad jealous of Dr Soham Das.
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Jealous? How can I be jealous of Dr. Das when I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist? No, I admire Dr. Das hugely. I like his sense of humour and his intelligent analyses. That's not jealousy; it's admiration!
I understood what you meant ❤️
2 things.
First, I cannot access any of your other videos of you doing stand up or rapping etc, because I'm in Canada and apparently they're not available here and that makes me very sad 😢
Second, I recently lost my dad..like a week ago...and for whatever reason, your videos are the only ones that have helped me thus far. I've zero interest in living life the way I used too, I was quite content to sit in the dark at my kitchen table just staring into space and occasionally crying for days on end. I have no idea what it is about your videos that's helping me, but I'm choosing to believe it's your ridiculous dad-like jokes that remind me of my dad just enough to make me laugh but not enough to make me cry. So thank you for that 💞
Oh you dear girl...it's a REALLY REALLY hard thing to accept isn't it....I found that remembering all the good times together helps heaps ...and he'll never leave you Amber..his spirit will always be watching over you...and it does get easier...promise. 🇦🇺❤🇦🇺
Awful for you. My mum is in her death bed right now with just days left 😓
If you want to access videos which are blocked by geolocation I'm told you can use a VPN to access them? I've lost count of the number of times I've seen them advertised on youtube videos.
I was sexually abused a lot while I was growing up by my father, one of my older sisters, my mother and occasionally by neighbors. I don't think that my parents knew what the other parent was doing. I think that they kept it hidden from each other. My father had romantic feelings for me and would vent to me how unhappy he was with my mother and my mother would vent to me about how unhappy she was with my father. Me and my siblings were homeschooled and we lived in the wilderness. I wasn't left alone with mandated reporters until I was a teenager. By that time I was completely conditioned to be loyal to the family at any cost to myself or other people who were not a part of our immediate family. When I got old enough to spend time with friends with out supervision, I understood that I had to make sure that they were convinced that my parents and family were wholesome, gentle, fair, generous etc, etc. Me and my siblings were not allowed to talk about the abuse with each other. So I don't know if my parents molested any of my brothers or my two half sisters who would have been my father's stepchildren. I know that my older sister was regularly molesting my older brother and one of my younger brothers. When I was young, all of my friends were being molested by a parent or another member of the community. My father's sexual assault were often violent. He told me not to talk about the abuse, because no one would believe me or that if I did and I was believed, that I would destroy my family.
When I was middle aged, I told my husband what my father had done and it was the first time that I'd spoken of the abuse out loud and my husband didn't believe me. My husband was a danger to my life and I was still less scared of him than my father.
Thanks for sharing - care to you for a life of safety
There is no comparison to sexual abuse, particularly when committed by a parent, the one who should be your number one protector.
If it makes you feel any better, I myself was badly beaten by my mother with the buckle of a belt, from about 6 to 10 when I was vulnerable. It could happen any day of the week, and would often leave me badly bruised, on my hand or arm. I was dragged up by her on her own, worst memories of my life.
I dont want to put up too much details, but it took me many years to talk about this issue among others.
Sorry for your lack of moral adults - thanks for sharing - keep going - your insights offer much xoxo
@@whodouthinkuare morning cu care
We believe you. You are a strong woman who has survived her horrible upbringing. I truly hope you are healing and have found peace and happiness. You deserve it!
Love U2❤️ & This Vid is Spot ON 🎯 I’m Glad R Kelly’s Crimes are finally dealt w/-No one is above the Law.
If I recall correctly, he himself was sexually abused as a kid by a family member😕sad really.
Hi Dr Das, can you do a video on the Collin Reeves case please? The ex solider who served in Afghanistan and later murdered his two neighbours with his army dagger after a trivial row about parking arrangements? Two forensic psychiatrists both agreed he had mild to moderate depression but no psychosis or Acute PTSD. After listening to his 999 confession call I honestly do not think this was then indicative of someone who was in any way compus mentis at the time of the murders at least. Your expert analysis would be really appreciated! There will inevitably be more to this case that the mainstream media has not highlighted.
I know how he got away with it for so long. People hid it for him. People made sure that the victims werent heard, believed, and made sure they were isolated out of any situation in which they could be taken seriously. Until now. It is insidious and disgusting. I personally think that anyone that aided in the continued cover up should be charged as well. Just my opinion.
He wasn't the only one doing it.
He's going to be in prison for a long time
I love this channel!! Your a real gem💕🇦🇺
Fasinating Case Dr.!! Thank You as Always!!
💙 u 2 Dr. Das! YOU stay eurythmic! Love your sense of humor, cannot wait to see you rap!! Where can I find it?! 🤔 🎙🔥🔥
I must say I love your Ali G impression of the BBC's own Hip Hop DJ broadcasting star. One of the most recent in the list of State sponsored journo and presenter nonces!
Really glad I have stumbled on this channel, it's really insightful, deeply respectful and massively beneficial for the sake of justice and recovery, congrats! I have struggled with this question also, about whether I can continue to like Micheal Jackson's song, as a massive fan, born in 1981, and still a child myself when the media reported the shocking reports of child abuse. From my understanding of neurology, the role of addiction plays a massive part in the decline in ppls morals and humane treatment of others. Those place in the fringes of society, as 'idols' or 'outcasts' are psychologically vulnerable to cultural labeling and pressures which pressures ones mental state beyond the bounds of civilised functioning. Addiction tends to dominate such ppls existence, since normality and dignity are alien concepts, the need for a dopamine hit to feel peace and self acceptance in the face of pressure or oppression, causes further dissension from self. The reward system of the brain, the amygdala increases, with more activity, meaning more dopamine is needed to feel the previous relief the dopamine hit fulfilled before the increase; making the individual's behaviour more depraved and abusive, as the addiction over power's their self control and true-self. Unfortunately, the more power the perpetrator has from their talent, the more victims they claim. Fundamentally, I think you can separate artistry from the artist, because their public contribution and private lives are two separately conceived paradigms; which are culturally appropriated and interpersonally propagated. The system is more at fault than the predators and victims it creates and without predominant cultural shifts towards respect, modesty and humility; then egotism, greed and pervasion enslaves the majority. I believe the main problem is the separation of wisdom into spheres of grace or truth, rather than equal measure of both. People judge others because of their truths, people over protect because of the harm that causes and respect is lost in a battle of attack and defend, which deteriorates the moral fabric of society, leading to predators and prey, the innocent and vulnerable devoured by the deranged. To conclude, any product of the artist which does not reflect their moral decline or disgraceful conduct is something morally safe to reminisce and enjoy upon, however, as a professional, I think this should be done privately out of the respect of the perpetrators victims and those of similar experience.
So helpful for all of us to be more empowered with insight to avoid predatory behaviour & an insight into the shiny media world. Use your critical thinking to question peeps & speak up to protect our vulnerable members of the community. Love u too Dr in a platonic way from over here in Australia after a week of NAIDOC celebrations.
You and others doing videos about all the burning questions not answered in the trials is so useful and yet astounding learning the psychopathy of criminals! This is why millions are fascinated with true crime and forensics, and now the psychopathy, thanks to Jodi Arias case!!! The Why? Always eluded us! Thanks for all you do to help us learn the hidden psychopathy!!
It has to be chilling to be a psychiatrist or any kind of psychologist to have sociopaths in your office and prison therapy!!! How do you do that? Many of those people and narcissists can’t be fixed!!!
I should say he's experiencing some "Bump and Grind" in prison
He is not into gay sex at all! He was afraid of the inmates I read!
@@Juke582 I think that's the point
Thank you Sir for this amazing video.
#JusticeForTheTruth
Love watching your videos! Thank you 🙏♥️
You are so welcome!
Love the humor guyyyy lol 👍😉🤠also interesting content perfect dudes . Thanks Doc Das luv ya 💙🕺😊👍
Grab the pepper spray 😂😂😂 love the humor! We need that with these horrible human stories! It’s definitely a cruel world! 😫
Lmao, "wigga please" !!!!! 😂
In a more seriouse note I can practically guarantee every patient I have seen in the last week or so has a history of abuse in their early or teen years. It's tough at times...
"brown up" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
‘I’m a Consultant Forensic Psychiatrist rapper stand up comedian’ was what you were meant to say lad 🤝🏽
I'd love to hear you talk about the familial/survivor-adjacent psychology that happens with the people closest to a sexual predator. There's like a shock/Stockholm syndrome and like emotional capitulation or completely different opinions that family members/ supporters go through. Janet & LaToya Jackson, Mia & Dylan Farrow....now R.Kellys brothers, his ex-wife and Sparkle are gonna go thru this post-trauma period and I won't be surprised if opinions swing widely 🙁
He gets 30
Yet giz stain gets 20 ...it's a fucked up world
Kelly is pissed! Get it? Pissed?
“our Kelly” lol
Respect love and gratitude 🙏
His family has come out and stated he was sexually abused as a youth. Do you believe that increases the possibility of a victim becoming an offender?
Books say that is true! Bad Childhood is always cause for all psychopathy and narcissism!!!
'Let's call him Timmy Saville' haha well played sir. I see that video was taken down.
Can you discuss what traits makes these girls and young women more vulnerable to predatory behavior? Are there any reliable predictors? The one survivor who literally went to his CP trial at age 14 and even after watching the trial was sucked into his circle baffles me.
Surely not uncommon for new inmates to be assessed for self harm risk as part of intake?
Never judge a cook by it's lover...🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏
How people 'present' themselves and their 'good works' is often a 'cover' for what that person actually is. They 'fake' who they really are. The 'opposite' is often the truth. Being 'famous' becomes a 'magnet' for others. The love of 'power' over others seems to be the playback of bullies and naracists. Victims are never believed if their abusers is a person of 'power and influence'. If you are a 'professional abuser' who do the courts believe? The title 'Doctor' can often be 'used' by some who either have no right to be regarded as a medical Doctor or a Physiatrist. We however need to remember the case of Dr Howard Shipman. It is still possible for Doctors to abuse their position to their own ends. ''Trust me, I'm a Doctor', is a well known phrase. Can you trust all Doctors? It's good to have the guidance of genuine Physiatrists and Expert Witnesses. Our society would be in chaos without them. Thank you also for your book and all the 'genuine' analysis that you give us. Your guidance is greatly appreciated.
I did once 'brown up' for a costume. I am less likely to do this in modern day times.
Well, I really can't watch Bill Cosby anymore without thinking about getting creeped out.
Cruel world here, lol, hello Dr Das. Why does justice take so long? Court registers, filing of documents, setting down of matters?
Please make a video of Aaron Hernandez.
Where were the parents? They should be charged for accepting money to allow their children to live with him.
14:11 Westwood 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would love to hear your thoughts about Ian Watkins
That's 1 Vile creature that makes my skin crawl, Hiddious humanlike being. Never shown an ounce of remorse either,other than being outted and caught.
@@loopylou6841 I totally agree.
Personally, I believe in separate the art from the artist _in certain ways._ I think movies/tv employ so many people that boycotting hurts a lot of innocent folks. Music is far more intimate (less crew)…HOWEVER, the way to still enjoy it w/o guilt is to pirate it/only use hard copies you already own (bc streaming pays royalties), preventing them from getting ongoing revenue from you. If the artist passed on, I don’t think that’s a necessary step bc it’s (presumably) going to their family.
I came of age in the #MeToo era & have experienced things along those lines & this is the best balance I found to enjoy nostalgic media & still do right by victims
That thumbnail tho😆
When I first passed my driving test my little black Punto only had a tape cassette (yes I'm old) and I only had two tapes that I played on repeat for about a month until I could afford to get a cd player put in....remix to ignition and Justin Timberlake Cry Me a River. That summer was one of the happiest of my life with my new found independence from driving and now I cant even look back on it fondly when I hear Remix to Ignition....its a good song though but for me it brings too many awful thoughts of what he put these young girls through and I cant listen to anything with his voice in it. Someone should make a copy though...as long as he does not benefit from it in anyway!
I have to admit, although he is full on, Dr Das makes me laugh. 'If you're willing to "brown up" hahaha
and the slaps, despite myself, I laugh every damn time.
"Timmy Saville" I'm crying xD
Hey my dad wants to know more about dementia or Alzheimer's symptoms. My.mother is.....well my father needs some info in a compact form. I'm getting a lot of random spread out stuff
The world is cold & indifferent & at times even hostile, but "horrible"? I dunno. Maybe. 😉✌🏼
12:02 mate, you joker!! 😂😂😂
There was rumour that Beyoncé’s parents went with her and another girl to R Kelly’s recording studio and would not leave their sides. If one of them had to use the bathroom, one of the parents escorted them and waited til they were done.
YAY the two toys in the background
Not uncommon that all new inmates are on some kind of "watch" d/t facilities having to be "cautious" with anyone coming into their facilities. Who knows how anyone may adjust? And so often it is not enough, anyone that is determined and is familiar with the routines of such restrictive settings will figure it out and wait for a "round" when someone does their checks (if they are indeed doing them) and then do what they plan on doing. It doesn't take much time to die if that is your plan.
Was he on the Lolita express along with Bill ?
He's handsome. And I lol at the I believe ill be fine...and now I'm going to be singing that all day
Please do an analysis on Warren Jeffs former cult leader of FLDS..that is one weird cookie
Aren't his problems generated by his financial circumstances that drew people in. He was able to pay them to keep quiet and the 'victims' didn't want to loose that pipeline the his money
I watched last night on the case of Peter Bryan and would like your opinion on what went so wrong the video is on Emma Kenny UA-cam channel this man was a real dangerous man and yet fooled so many professionals how can this happen thank you.
I will need a bit more information on how "we" will be smelling...
He got away with it because he had money and status. And people really enjoyed his music so they didn't want to see him go down.
Ergo M. Jackson.
This whole situation is so reminiscent of Michael Jackson 🙄.
Noooo! Michael didn’t do sex trafficking did he? He certainly had many covering up for his bazaar behavior and sex crimes!
You're actually pretty funny.
Consider the literary / art / scientific geniuses throughout history - they couldn't all have been angels. Picasso was apparently a complete pig, Charles Dickens was the world's worst husband, Priscilla was 14 when she met 24-year-old Elvis, Sinatra was horrible. Talking about the sins and vices of Jerry Lee Lewis is a little difficult, for one simple reason: He had pretty much all of them. Miles Davis was a psychopath, Scriabin thought he was the next Messiah, Lennon was a prize jerk. Time and distance appear to provide some sort of amnesia and we tend to remember the good parts. I mean, the Romans took over England with a good measure of force, but everyone want to find a coin now.
Even as a kid I thought there was something wrong with him he just looked and felt creepy to me so I don't think I was fooled by him ever in fact I didn't like him even though I never met him phew no matter how much charity he did he just made me feel sick 🤮 I was bought up in the 60.
Sorry for auto correct in my last comment lol meant preditor
I will never be able to brown up.
I just burn.
The pastiest white girl in all my class photos
Hate the guy but remix to ignition was a great song
It’s OK we can like remix to ignition and still hate R. Kelly. Even douche bags put out a good song once in a while.
And I will continue to listen to Marilyn Manson.
I hope RKelly is not still receiving royalties from his music as I would be happy to continue listening to some of his music but not if I thought it could give him more money to help him survive in prison.
Of course it’s going to him it’ll be paying his legal team and his commissary in prison.
@@Rose-hf5mw there should be a law to cut off all access to royalties when someone has broken the law to this severity. I wont be supporting him for sure!
@@Rose-hf5mw It goes to his label?
I don’t think you can separate..I can’t for example if you buy or stream R. Kelly music that money must go to his estate or him…so in a way he’s still making money so screw him. This is just my opinion. I can’t listen to Michael Jackson because of his crimes against children. I am a Buffalo Bills fan but do not acknowledge OJ Simpson for his crimes…again just my opinion
Just as well gary glitter was crap.. no miss but i still like singing sunarise and i wish i could fly. Alsp Plolanskis MacBeth ... still the best version
Yes I will use you. Haven’t got barrister yet. The mental health team. Jackie baker. Lied to police. Lied to doctors. She is a nightmare. Pushing forward. Respect and gratitude #Weareguildford
Please do one on the Clintons if you are brave enough.
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the abuse he allegedly was subjected to when he was a child. There is no excusing his behavior and the harm it did to vulnerable young people. You talk about people aiding and hiding his behavior but I would think that prolonged abuse on a child would have left him also with some belief the behavior was somewhat normalized? This is important as I believe if people think/know a child is being abused they should report it not cover/hide it. Stop cycles of harm. Thoughts?
You said it "allegedly", why would he speak of something not substantiated by evidence? And only an insane mind would think that any kind of abuse he/she suffered and experienced could be normal(to carry it out unto others). They might only think it normal before stepping out to the society but not after and creating life for themselves outside their realm of normalcy.
I don't think Kelly's achievements should be recognised, because what he did to his victims cancels it out. Plus, to admire him in any way would devalue his victims, leaving them feeling worthless. Great video, Mr Das! 👌
I believe we must separate the artist's identity from the art. A lot of artists in the past have been terrible people but their work is fantastic.. I don't believe the artist should be paid for their work if they've been proven to be predictors.
Any further profits could go to victims or organisations that help victims.
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This argument is frustrating because all artists are so different. Some artists make art that can seemingly be separated from their art- with others it's not so easy. R.Kelly was hiding in plain sight because all he sang about was sex and pushing boundaries. It's almost impossible in this context to separate R Kelly's art when he consistently uses this rhetoric like in "The Panties", hiding in the closet, the pied piper, etc.
That's why his art should be revolting because at this point the lyrics and the music videos are him telling on himself just using the music industry facade of consent and being of age
The other part of it is there's a sexual radicalizing that happens. I think mainstream/average consumers know about I believe I can fly and ignition and the big hits but listen to his albums and watching his videos shows you the story of his sexual deviance. Maybe we should interrogate when artists go down this sexual obsession pipeline. Trey Songz is going down this path, watch
Yeah i.e. Michael Jackson! That family hurried to coral his money and estate to stop more sex assault law suites!
Dr. Das, IMHO, your video does a disservice to one type of victims of R Kelly's abuse - the boys. Also, no mention of Kevin Spacey? Why not?
I'm a survivor of childhood sexual, physical and emotional abuse. Your omission hurts male survivors viscerally, like being ignored and shunted aside, like being victimized AGAIN! I'm hope that isn't what you intended when you made this.
Physician, heal thyself.
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What a load bollocs. Have you any idea how ridulous your statements are. If not, reread them and : drop the poor me and blaming Dr Das for your feeling of being ignored and shunted aside. "like being victimised again' . How in the hell can you even suggest you're a victim of this video. Wise up and grow up.
Why should he mention Kevin Spacey ??? Read the title of the video and quit playing the victim.
Dude. I'm sorry for your traumatic experiences but you've missed the point of this video subject matter entirely and are going on a subjective tangent. Dr Das never said that R Kelly did not abuse males and nor is Kevin Spacey relevant to this topic. Furthermore the latter is yet to be found guilty of any crimes and deserves the presumption of innocence. All my love and respect goes to you mate regardless. Please know that I am also a survivor of male on male abuse.
And can we talk about Kobe Seriously he was charged with an underaged girl situation . Why doesn’t anyone talk about his actions .