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  • @LonSeidman
    @LonSeidman  3 роки тому +5

    One note as I didn't show this - there is a patch panel above my rack mounted on the wall that has all of the network connections for the studio room (a bulk of the drops). The upstairs goes to a secondary patch panel on the other side of the room that we put in when we first moved in. So the cables are patching in from those two panels.

    • @MartinTechReviews
      @MartinTechReviews 3 роки тому

      Hi Lon, give me a shout if you want a hand with network design, cable management.

    • @TheMikeisfly
      @TheMikeisfly 3 роки тому

      I would setup a Pfsense firewall and segment your network. You don't want a attack on your home network messing up your work production network.

  • @andrewbergman1
    @andrewbergman1 3 роки тому +9

    you can add a second site on the unifi controller on your UDM pro for your USG, no need to spin up a second controller.

    • @joeberg9823
      @joeberg9823 3 роки тому

      UDMP does not allow other controllers.

    • @LubomirGeorgiev
      @LubomirGeorgiev 3 роки тому

      pretty sure the UDM pro can't do multiple sites..

    • @ItIsAHumanNumber
      @ItIsAHumanNumber 3 роки тому

      Exactly this. Add the 1gigabit Ethernet as a secondary connection to the UDM Pro, set it to 1. Combine connections/load balancing, or 2. Backup, or 3. In a VLAN containing only the Synology.

  • @michaelimlay5773
    @michaelimlay5773 3 роки тому +1

    The US-16-XG is an amazing switch. I use it as our "Core" switch at my company (I manage IT). We have 5 UniFi Switches (split between 3 network racks) all connected to the US-16-XG via 24 Strain Single Mode Fiber and I have LAG setup, so each switch has 20 Gbps to the "Core" Switch. Our network is way overkill for us since the main file server is simply running 7200 RPM SAS drives in RAID 10.

  • @bradw256
    @bradw256 3 роки тому +6

    Lon, You mentioned that you need a UniFi controller for your 2nd network using the USG. I used a Raspberry Pi 3a, and it worked very well. Also, the USG may not do well at gigabit speeds if you turn on any of the IDS/IPS functions. I just got rid of my USG because I wanted to fun the full IDS/IPS capability. Good luck!

  • @noggan
    @noggan 3 роки тому +2

    US-16-XG is quite nice. I use it in my business too. We got 10.000Mbit (pay around 280USD per month) here in Europe. Get pretty decent speeds with this. I have two of them and a MikroTik 16 ports SFP+ ports supporting 10G.

  • @MactelecomNetworks
    @MactelecomNetworks 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Lon. For the rack I would suggest putting some patch panels in ( I use unloaded with Keystone jack) and then use short patch cables 6inch to connect to the switches. I usually do patch panel>Switch>patch panel

  • @mcd5082
    @mcd5082 3 роки тому +6

    Would love more videos on the ubiquiti equipment! I’ve heard they are excellent

    • @niceguy235uk1
      @niceguy235uk1 3 роки тому +2

      You heard wrong. lol

    • @coryhyatt2035
      @coryhyatt2035 3 роки тому +1

      I have the udm pro and one of there poe switches. I would rate it 85/100. For the amount of money I spend I expected it to be flawless. In which it is not.

  • @DaRahamim
    @DaRahamim 3 роки тому +4

    You mentioned keeping the 1g ports on the UDM-Pro open for security. They are not POE and do not have the backplane performance of an 8 port Gig switch. I would not recommend using them for almost anything. Stick with working off aggregate switches for most usage.
    With regards to cable management. Try and use shorter cables and Velcro to clean that up a bit.

  • @johnsmith-vz4sk
    @johnsmith-vz4sk 3 роки тому

    I got my multi-gigabit fiber internet at the same time and copying you with your installs - great videos Lon

  • @bbgarnettTotallyNotABot
    @bbgarnettTotallyNotABot 3 роки тому +8

    keep up the great work

  • @victorbart
    @victorbart 3 роки тому

    Best tip to clean up your network is short cables. And a patch panel with keystones. You can add rj45 couplers in the patch panel and run short cable in the front and second longer patch cable in the back.

  • @pathiggins9288
    @pathiggins9288 3 роки тому +6

    The "Boss" OK, with that Kraken you got spawning in your basement!?👍

  • @rodp2310
    @rodp2310 3 роки тому +3

    Organic cable management 👍

  • @KameraShy
    @KameraShy 3 роки тому +2

    I can remember when a 300 baud dial up connection first came out. It was wonderful. Life was good. Now it's complicated.

  • @OldMan_PJ
    @OldMan_PJ 3 роки тому +1

    The main thing with cabling is finding a way to run the cables horizontally in line with each device they plug into so you can see them and don't have the waterfall in front blocking everything.

  • @ShiggitayMediaProductions
    @ShiggitayMediaProductions 3 роки тому +1

    Cool setup. I'd love to deck my network out with a UDM Pro since I have some UAP AC Lites, but it'd be overkill for me right now. My cable management on my network "rack" that houses my OPNsense powered firewall/router on a QOTOM or w/e MiniPC isn't much better than yours. Haha. If I ever get a house of my own or a place that I can drill holes into the walls of I really want to properly place some UniFi APs around the place, but right now I have one in my room and one in the living room, and it gets the job done. Anyway, great video!

  • @kevinhughes9801
    @kevinhughes9801 3 роки тому +5

    I run controller on synology nas in docker works well

  • @fonte935
    @fonte935 3 роки тому +3

    You seem to have a good understanding of what's going on, so cable management doesn't so much matter in your own space, for now. You could remove the old stuff (that still works) and clean it up quite a bit if you ever wanted to.

  • @kennethfribert6074
    @kennethfribert6074 3 роки тому

    Hi Lon, I'm viewing your rack through teary eyes :-D One thing though, if you don't care about adding rack nuts for all the 'holes' of your devices, you should at least move the nuts to the lower holes, otherwise your bottom device is going to bear the entire load in the back. Oh, and have a look at rackstuds, they are very cool, and much easier to work with.

  • @dmitxd
    @dmitxd 3 роки тому +1

    I am shocked to see the speed ✨

  • @fonte935
    @fonte935 3 роки тому +1

    You can certainly install the controller in Docker on the Synology. But, you should also be able to run a router/firewall on the Synology itself and avoid the USG altogether.

  • @mwolrich
    @mwolrich 3 роки тому

    With most of your newer Ubiquity UniFi equipment, they support the USP-RPS, which is a redundant power supply.. Hit up Ubiquity for one and the RPS cables, you can then plug that into a separate UPS & AC circuit, and if you ever lose a power supply in your Dream Machine Pro, 16 port 10GB switch, or your POE switch, your network will stay running.. also takes care of other dumb issues, such as a circuit breaker tripping, or a UPS failing, since you now would have 2 separate AC circuits, and 2 UPS’s running your network. This is also why I suggested getting rid of the non Ubiquity unmanaged switches.. the USP-RPS can run 4 devices, Dream Machine, 16 port 10G switch, your POE switch, and oh look, one port left to connect up a new Ubiquity switch to replace the unmanaged switch. BTW, I have a similar setup, short of the 16port 10GB switch and the 2G Comcast connection, I tried, I’m too far from the nearest fiber interconnect.

  • @michaelimlay5773
    @michaelimlay5773 3 роки тому

    The cable management isn't terrible, believe me, working for a managed service provider (MSP) I've seen my fair share of much much worse. However, since you did ask for suggestions and feedback, I would recommend putting 1U or 2U horizontal cable managers (with covers) between switches/routers and a vertical cable manager on the side of your rack (with cover). You may need some longer cables, but you can run your cables inside these hidden from point A to point B. I'd also recommend getting 24-port keystone patch panel and some RJ45 keystone couplers and have all your drops/devices connect into the rear of that patch panel and then into a cable manager to a switch, would look MUCH cleaner. I also like to color code everything... either by keystone color or cable color. For example... Security Devices (Cameras, etc) should use a Red Ethernet Cable/Keystone. Wireless Access Points should use Orange Keystones/Cables, Main Data Cables (Switch Interconnects, etc) should use Yellow Keystones/Cables. VoIP/PoE devices should use Blue Keystones/Cables, and regular data/non-PoE should use White Keystones/Cables. The colors I mentioned aren't the normal "standard" per RCDD guidelines, but it's the colors I've always used. Fiber Optic Cable you really can't color code since they are color coded by the type of cable they are (Single Mode Fiber, Multi Mode Fiber, etc). I hope this helps and hit me up if you have any questions :)

  • @45ACPSpi
    @45ACPSpi 3 роки тому

    Your Poe switch will connect sfp with the copper cable but it will not auto negotiate the speed. If you manually set it to 1 gig in the config it will work just fine.

  • @toysareforboys1
    @toysareforboys1 3 роки тому +1

    Damn, US-16-XG is super nice price! I think I need to move to 10gig soon :) 11:04 I have some US-48-500W that don't work (dead, I assume needs new laptop style power adapter inside) you're welcome to have, they have SFP+ port so you could do 10gig to it (and use it to replace your tp-link switch or 16 port poe switch or both). Let me know if you'd like me to send it over.

  • @ZaimAfham
    @ZaimAfham 3 роки тому

    Great video. Im also planning to upgrade my network since I got gigabit fiber connection. Right now most of my equipment is dated which only support 100mbps network

  • @nickf3242
    @nickf3242 3 роки тому +2

    My suggestion for help is to possibly reach out to Tom Lawrence of the Lawrence Systems UA-cam channel. He's a UA-camr that has his own networking and tech consulting business out of Michigan. He deals a lot with Ubiquity and Synology gear. I've learned a lot from him over the years. He may be interested in a collaboration video or giving you some pointers. Look forward to the next network video!

  • @rogerf3622
    @rogerf3622 3 роки тому +1

    Great update Lon!

  • @pbrigham
    @pbrigham 3 роки тому +1

    You need a patch panel with keystones to clear all that cable, just make sure to buy one with keystones that is much better to make the connections.

    • @LonSeidman
      @LonSeidman  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah I have a patch panel above the rack I should have showed that.

    • @pbrigham
      @pbrigham 3 роки тому +1

      @@LonSeidman ok, but you need a Keystone patch panel on the rack itself, then all connections from yours patch panel that you say you have on the back will connect to this one on the rack, and you will need small network cables to make all the connections to the switch. This will clear all the mess. Just make sure to use a Keystone patch panel on the rack.

  • @realburn6845
    @realburn6845 3 роки тому

    Hi, just a quick remark: when using 10G connections, it is better to not use the orange MM fibers as they are not optimized for 10G. Better to use the aquamarine colored ones. Has to do with the quality of the fibre strands :-)

    • @realburn6845
      @realburn6845 3 роки тому

      But... 10 seconds later I saw this one is connected to your ISP. I doubt you got a 10G internet connections, so the orange fibre is fine. Sorry. Should have watched the whole video first ;-)

  • @EduardoRodriguezRocks
    @EduardoRodriguezRocks 2 роки тому

    13:00 you can see the 6.5kb of bandwidth in use, totally worth of the thousand dollars in equipment

  • @mixmeister9985
    @mixmeister9985 3 роки тому +1

    Great video 👍

  • @1499Erick
    @1499Erick 3 роки тому

    Hey Lon, what would really help the clutter is crimping your own cables. You can even just shorten up your existing cables, no need to make all new cables. CrossTalk Solutions actually just made a great video on the subject if you want to check it out.

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy 3 роки тому +1

      I learned to crimp my own cables, so anybody can do it. I have successfully done both solid and stranded. An inexpensive cable tester is a must. A lighted magnifying glass is a big help. And the "pass through" style plugs make the task a lot easier.

  • @bobcarpenter1551
    @bobcarpenter1551 3 роки тому

    What else is plugged into the Juniper switch? Could you bypass it entirely and plug your optical SFP+ directly into your UDMP?
    One of the nicest things I've seen for cable management is the SlimRun CAT 6A cables from Monoprice and others. I'm still not sure I'd want to use these for PoE but for everything else? Absolutely! They are much cleaner looking and easy to bundle.
    Use a different firewall than that USG; it tops out at about 300Mbps for throughput when you put on SPI/IDS. You could use both ports on the UDMP in a fail-over mode as an experiment. You can have the UDMP even separate your two desired WAN ports into two different networks. You don't have to purchase two different firewalls to make two different networks.
    At one point, in your experiments you may exceed the routing and firewall capabilities of your UDMP; I'd suggest experimenting with something like pfSense, or even, if it's unlocked, see if you are allowed to modify that Juniper device.
    If you ever have issues with DAC connections, some of them, like Cisco, can be very xenophobic. You can have custom, tested DAC cables made by FS.COM to bridge this gap. You could use a custom DAC instead of that Fibre to go between the Juniper and the UDMP. DACs, unfortunately, are pretty unwieldy and stiff. Sadly there's no such thing as a 1Gbps SFP DAC cable, but you can get SFP RJ-45 gigabit and then use short hop ethernet cables. SFP+ to 10G-base-T connectors get VERY hot and consume a lot of power vs fibre or DACs. In some cases, it's not a power issue; it's a heat issue.
    Welcome to the rabbit hole of configuring multiple WAN ports and deciding what to do with them. :)

  • @mwolrich
    @mwolrich 3 роки тому

    Correction: your 16XG doesn’t support the RPS, for that they have the “UniFi Switch Aggregation PRO” in the Early Access store, it’s (28) 10G SFP+ ports and (4) 25G SFP28 ports, its also $899 and sold out atm

  • @ernieberlin6559
    @ernieberlin6559 3 роки тому

    Using a DAC instead of fiber to connect the poe switch needs less power and has less delaying then your fiber connection. To connect a SFP port (poe switch) with a SFP+ port you need a 10G DAC, the SFP+ port on the 16-XG must be configured manually to 1G.

  • @kurtvonknipper3902
    @kurtvonknipper3902 3 роки тому +2

    Should you decide to run the controller in Docker, make certain your Synology model will run Docker. Not all of them will.

  • @davidhalliday7776
    @davidhalliday7776 3 роки тому +2

    Please tell me you do not have everything on one single cross joined VLAN! But looking at the ‘it works’ setup I suspect you do. IOT and network peripherals are notorious insecure and this is a great way to have all those files and systems compromised. For example I have homenet (normal computers) iot (for iot, smart lights, Alexa etc) kids (those Minecraft sites are riddled with malware and if the kids machines get infected they can not get to mine) guest ( for your guessed it guests) and DMZ (for the hosts I do allow access to from the internet.) Now when you have all the different vlans you setup the rules to allow routing between then. For example homenet can get to anything, kids to DMZ and internet, IOT internet only etc. With ubiquity you can span these same networks to WiFi SSIDs so my IOT WiFi devices for example connect to the IOT WiFi network that is the same vlan as the IOT wired network. This is all pretty simple if you use just the unifi gear but if any of the other switches are manages you should be able to use those with vlans also.

  • @LS1985NL
    @LS1985NL 3 роки тому

    Just a tip, you may not stack the fanless UniFi switches (it can be overheating when used in a stack)
    dl.ubnt.com/qsg/USW-16-POE/USW-16-POE_EN.html (part Hardware installation)

  • @markphillips8019
    @markphillips8019 3 роки тому

    Time for some VLAN's, Lon. Last thing you need is for the kids to download some sort of malware and it roams across your network and destroys your media archive!! Those Ubiquiti devices make VLANs trivial and they even work over WiFi. As for cabling, its just money. Buy some management bars and some longer patch cables etc.

  • @johntierney3353
    @johntierney3353 3 роки тому

    Lon. Have you ever thought of getting some solar panels and use the power to feed your basement?

  • @joejoe6949
    @joejoe6949 3 роки тому

    The udm pro is not poe plus for what people say all 8 port share the same 1 gig back plain. and your poe switch only has 41 watt pretty low. From switch to switch on the same rack a 10 gig dac cable is faster then your fiber cable.

  • @psycl0ptic
    @psycl0ptic 3 роки тому

    Did the modules actually sync at 2.5 or 5Gbit? UI officially doesn’t support this...doesn’t mean it won’t work...

  • @briankfree
    @briankfree 3 роки тому

    @Lon - Do you notice these Mgig SFPs getting really hot in your US-16-XG?

  • @macktap
    @macktap 3 роки тому

    Will your Ubiquity gear let you do the 2.5gbps and 5gbps speeds? In my experience with the Unifi line it is 1gbps or 10gbps and nothing in between. I would love to know there is a middle ground I can use.

  • @Razor2048
    @Razor2048 3 роки тому

    Shouldn't the your network support a dual WAN config with load balancing? If you can get an overall 3 gigabit connection, then you can get new anime releases much faster, especially in cases where extremely good episodes are released and everyone needs to view it with as little delay as possible, all at the same time.

  • @horaciodelre2210
    @horaciodelre2210 3 роки тому

    Here in Argentina, i have 20MB download and 7 MB upload... sad

  • @blanchedesmas
    @blanchedesmas 3 роки тому

    Which laptop has the best value for money? Main use: office automation (suite office) and internet. It’s a corporate computer. It will be used by many people. It should not be too slow to open.... So no i3, i5 processor or AMD equivalent. Budget less than $1,000. Thank you

  • @MNGermann
    @MNGermann 3 роки тому +2

    Lon, have you consider put the 1g link together at the udm using the 2nd wan as link aggregation in 2:1 proportion?

    • @LonSeidman
      @LonSeidman  3 роки тому +1

      The udm pro doesn’t support that yet

    • @MoeYoussef401
      @MoeYoussef401 3 роки тому

      @@LonSeidman I think it does, look into wan2 settings when connect the second link

    • @LonSeidman
      @LonSeidman  3 роки тому +2

      @@MoeYoussef401 At the moment it only supports failover - not bonding or special routing

    • @Noodles.FreeUkraine
      @Noodles.FreeUkraine 3 роки тому

      @@LonSeidman Correct. Anything other than failover has been on the Coming Soon™ list for a few hundred years now. UBNT for ya.

  • @veabreu
    @veabreu 3 роки тому

    Hi Lon, is there an option to run this switch by itself without a unifi controller or it's mandatory to use under this circunstance? I bought one of these for a small office network and i want it to connect a QNAP, ESXi host enviroment with virtual machines but it doesn't working like i need it.

    • @LonSeidman
      @LonSeidman  3 роки тому

      I am pretty sure you can install the controller software and configure it - after that it doesn’t need to be running.

  • @Thefatveganchef
    @Thefatveganchef 3 роки тому

    I has the usg and was never able to get over 200mbps on the device. Processor is too slow. The usg pro gives me full speed (400+/20+} all day long. Keep that in mind when using it.

    • @Thefatveganchef
      @Thefatveganchef 3 роки тому

      Had not has.

    • @LonSeidman
      @LonSeidman  3 роки тому

      Was that with the security features enabled?

    • @Thefatveganchef
      @Thefatveganchef 3 роки тому

      @@LonSeidman no security features enabled. No dpi. Just the usg, a 24 port switch and access point. The processor and memory never looked pegged in the interface but speed test in udm and from the isp speed test just barely over 200. It seems to be a known issue because there are other complaints of same issue in various forums.

    • @Thefatveganchef
      @Thefatveganchef 3 роки тому

      Oh and I thought that if the switch only supports 1/10 gig then that is all the module will do as well so a 2.5 port will only work at 1gig since the switch can't do 2.5.

    • @jaysnow7490
      @jaysnow7490 3 роки тому +1

      @@Thefatveganchef I also get around 200Mbps using the speedtest within the controller interface, but real world i've hit 778Mbps. I believe it is just the speedtest that is the issue.

  • @rollover36
    @rollover36 3 роки тому

    Wondering how much that comcast bill is, overkill IMHO

  • @bigredwag
    @bigredwag 3 роки тому

    If you haven't used a Google cloud micro instance yet you can do so for free (1st one) to run a hosted UniFi controller. Look up UA-cam video on the subject matter.

  • @jeffreymcquillen1208
    @jeffreymcquillen1208 3 роки тому

    What are your thoughts on Cat8 cables?

  • @UNKNOWN-le2tu
    @UNKNOWN-le2tu 3 роки тому

    i just entered the real broad band age by getting an ethernet to usb module for my tablet. now im getting 175Gbps speed for download. i am paying $50 usd for 200Mbps bandwith. so i ran ethernet properly for my xbox, tv's, computers, & printer. so far 6 lines ran. i quit cable tv and now stream my tv. i use cable internet but i guess i could switch to fiber. im buying my own modem router and a wireless access point system for mobile devices.

  • @domramsey
    @domramsey 3 роки тому +2

    My entire house uses less power than your network rack. :)

  • @gamingwithegoon
    @gamingwithegoon 3 роки тому

    I was looking at this switch, but dident know you could get sfp+ modules that dit 2.5g en 5g!
    Is this thing noizy? can i use it when its in the same room as my main pc or is it 1 of those rackmount only options because of the fans?

    • @LonSeidman
      @LonSeidman  3 роки тому

      It’s got some fans that do make some noise - definitely not whisper quiet

    • @gamingwithegoon
      @gamingwithegoon 3 роки тому

      @@LonSeidman I do have 2 desktops, a tower server and a synology nas sitting next to me. so it doesnt need to be whisper quite... but some rack mount fans are just extreemly loud.

  • @weifengmao
    @weifengmao 3 роки тому

    Isn't Comcast going to introduce a data cap? How fast can you go over that lol.

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 3 роки тому

    I'm using mikrotik gear for 10gbe. Used seems to be the way to go. Check out servethehome.com and it's forum for more info. That witek one is well rated.

  • @coryhyatt2035
    @coryhyatt2035 3 роки тому +1

    Cable managers

  • @Pizzapartyat9Tk
    @Pizzapartyat9Tk 3 роки тому

    you can get a blank patch pannle that lets you use standard keystone stuff so you can run all the cables in the back and bundle them then use short jumpers in the front to make it clean think some company's make fiber keystone jacks that are female to female and you can also get female to female rj45 think they also have hdmi ones i find it eazyer to manage my rack with it ill add the link of what i used in my rack the pannle( www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Mount-24-Port-Keystone/dp/B0072JVT02/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Cable+Matters+Rack+or+Wall+Mount+24-Port+Keystone+Patch+Panel+%28Blank+Patch+Panel+for+Keystone+Jacks%29&qid=1613866825&s=electronics&sr=1-1 and hear is keystones www.amazon.com/Listed-VCE-25-Pack-Keystone-Coupler-Black/dp/B075ZPGV1H/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=VCE+UL+Listed+CAT6+RJ45+Keystone+Jack+Inline+Coupler-Black+25-Pack&qid=1613866831&s=electronics&sr=1-1

  • @vyathaen
    @vyathaen 3 роки тому

    this just reminds me how much I hate networking... and how much some people go nuts with it ^^ Lets be real, you only need like 1/10th of those cables and speed :) Next thing would be to get a firewall and bind your cable internet with the Starlink one ? :)

  • @IAmZen_007
    @IAmZen_007 3 роки тому

    I wish I had some much money to have al this equipment…

  • @m3hdim3hdi
    @m3hdim3hdi 3 роки тому +1

    Why I am watching this?

  • @Oregonian1
    @Oregonian1 3 роки тому

    Calling @FiberNinja

  • @HexapoDD
    @HexapoDD 3 роки тому

    The content is good but the audio is horrible

  • @thatLion01
    @thatLion01 3 роки тому

    This video is 666 views now.