wrong, as someone that used to listen to harsh noise a lot this is actually okay. Some harsh noise artist will try to put some strong feedback that will jab your ears real hard in between whereas what Andri did here is just consistent static that is numb. So technically he does made it more enjoyable.
Vomir's actually a pretty normal dude. He's got a trippy guitar improv noise project and a family. Vomir (the project) is just what he does when he's feeling Nihilistic.
Reading interviews, he seems like a very funny, down-to-earth guy who sees the black humour and absurdity in what he does and really enjoys it in a slightly askew way.
Merzbow > Vomir. I said it. I’ll be real here, as a noise artist (yes, I said artist) and fan, I like my HNW is doses. Sometimes I will just put Merzbow on full blast and clean my whole fucking house. But for the most part, I like my harsh noise to stab at parts. Maybe I’m just more into industrial noise, I guess. Personal preferences and shit, not kink shaming anyone at all here. For all the people asking how people can enjoy noise, I somewhat have a super flawed theory: to enjoy noise music, you have to enjoy making it. Most people I know that love noise music, are noise artists. From space drone to glitch noise to HNW. I grew up absolutely loving making sounds with anything I could get my hands on. The more abrasive, the better. I just really, really enjoy the freedom of making noise music over anything else. For me, it’s pure, raw emotional expression. And just for the record, I’m a classically trained pianist, a banjo picker, and an occasional guitarist. Also, I make hip hop beats. But noise is where my heart is. But since I’ve said nothing about the video yet: fucking hilarious and I love it 😂 I was hoping you’d do one soon and by god, ya done did it.
Skinny Puppy were also classically trained musicians who became bored with regular music. I saw them once, but they were always my favorite since they knew how to incorporate noise into their works. I really like your attitude and want to hear some of your work.
I agree with your theory, as a guitar player myself, I have a few pedals lying around, and I use an MXR Carbon Copy Delay to create the stabs and such. The great thing about noise is the oddly soothing nature of it, it is a lot like ambient music in that you can tune in and out of it and still get a unique experience from it. I am glad there are a lot of noise fans out there.
You can't compare artists, and very known names. Also is unneccesary to give a reason why you listen noise, every sound you listen is rostly noise though.
Sovereign Mind Dude, I think noise music is strange as well, but anything can be art in my eyes. But who am I kidding, I’m just a kid in a Noise/grindcore band anyway.
Just recently had the opportunity to tour with Vomir, he's actually a pretty funny guy in real life, also, far from being pretentious, most noise people are chronic underachievers.
You forgot the most important part...release physical media, in a limited edition of five copies, recorded on mangled old C90 cassette tapes you found behind some bins.
Funny Story: Long ago I was looking for a tutorial on Noise music, and I found your Noisecore tutorial, and that's how I found out about your channel. Now you actually did a Noise music tutorial. It's all come full circle.
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Another another sound artist here. I've mostly worked with "someone trying to start their car without gas" noise, dark ambient and drone. But yeah, this is a pretty accurate representation of the basics of digital experimental music and sound design. 4:13 was probably my favorite part. Also: props for you creating a "live studio" recording of your piece Untitled. Standing still for so long just for satire takes some fucking effort. The box on head, extreme frown and anime girl shirt really sold it. That's some fucking art right there.
Excellent ending track as always. I’m amazed at how you guys can balance the influence of the Japanese of masters like Merzbow and Massona without losing the edge of western artists like hunting lodge and Prurient. I don’t actually know what I’m saying.
Ah, I remember when I hated noise music. Usually this channel follows a pattern of a series of increasingly heavy genres, so I'm kind of surprised you didn't do regular harsh noise or noise rock/metal or both before diving straight into hnw. I'd love to see you guys cover one of those genres regardless.
Now that you've got your Harsh Noise Wall album, time to make a Death Industrial album. Just take you harsh noise wall album and play a note once in a while
Sort of. You hold the notes for a very long time and howl angry-sad lyrics about the breakup that inspired you to stare miserably at your equipment like that in the first place. Also, distorted samples of depressing foreign films.
@@ConvincingPeoplein a way you are right but there is death industrial with rhythm in it like for example some of atrax morgue music have rhythm in it
Some satire of Sunn O)))? Only problem is the song needs to be at least 10 minutes long! LOL I can't really say I "enjoy" drone metal, but it does fascinate me!
I can already imagine Andri looking at his watch for minutes until the next note hits only to wait for a few minutes again. Seriously though his take on the genre would interest me.
sample the sound of the beating, put it through 6 HM-2s that are all dimed. Add a cheap, photocopied-too-many-times photo, a purposefully offensive album name and make a 20-copy run of cassette tape with no digital release. Bam. You're a noise artist.
@@kalliboymusic Noise isn't necessarily music, in the same way field recordings or radio plays aren't, but this statement in general is also just factually incorrect. It's definitely an acquired taste, though.
I once made Harsh noise wall in Logic Pro by taking some stock guitar and drum samples , putting them together on a loop and speeding them up to a maximum.
It's easy to pump out shitty noise music but there are projects that really are mind-bending and cool. And noise is even bleeding to the mainstream lately, in hip hop with Dalek or clipping, electronic artists like Sophie and black dresses, noise rock is getting pretty popular too. It's easy to cross out the bare raw experimentation at first glance but it really has a lot to offer if you can get past the snobby exterior
Agustín Videla Great comment, though the only part I’m not so sure of is that noise bleeding into all these genres is something “lately”, at least if what you mean to say is that it’s a new development.. I mean, yes, you are correct, but I’d only point out that it’s something that’s been going on for a while. Maybe it’s more popular now? I’m not sure, bc I can think of a lot of artists who were doing it a couple decades ago, and they weren’t nobodies, some even were on major labels and making quite violent cacophonies.. I’ll at least give you one thing regarding “lately”, and that’s it does seem like use of noise, especially harsher noise, has increased significantly over the last decade, particularly in hip hop and “pop music” (where it’s existed in various ways for a while, but not to the extent and degree it does now, definitely). Still, all this said, noise/white noise being used in genres that aren’t just noise obviously isn’t harsh noise, wall noise, etc.. and I think one could have a harder time arguing what’s the chicken or the egg, aka, was white noise used in other formats/genres first, or used as it’s own “dark ambient aesthetic” of noise first (probably not how any early artist utilizing it would like to be characterized), or just as a means of exploring texture with sound, etc, as many early electronic pioneers were interested in, and it just evolved from there? Since I was a teenager (so for almost exactly 20 years of my life) I became very interested in actually tracing all the lines and lineages in modern, western music, to the extent that one can, and your comment has really put my mind back in this space, but now of wondering how harsh noise evolved from white noise, how and when it interacted with disparate genres, whether or not it can even be directly connected to “drone music” as a “progression”, or if that’s just silly (drone is, after all, multiple millennia old, and played by our ancestors, and still played in various tribes/ethnic folk traditions).... I’m sorry I’m rambling, and now completely disconnected from your original point, but it was your comment that got me thinking back through all the popular and underground iteration of “noise music” that I’m aware of, and it’s made me wonder where this *really* started.. which I know is separate from your point, which again, I mostly agree. Lol.. I’ll digress ffs.. cheers ✌️♾
Well, the video is a satire to harsh noise. But yeah, on fact noise has been a part of music for a pretty long time, velvet underground experimented with it, the Jesus and Mary chain were noise pop on their first album, sonic youth always played noise pop/rock, show me the body uses a lot of noise. The thing is, we've got to understand harsh noise as sound art and experimentation, not an actual genere
I'm interested in finding out about noise rock but not very sure yet what it sounds like based on my own research, can someone give me their recommendations too if they're familiar with the genre?? I guess i know songs like Royal Blue Walls by Jane Remover, or stick and life imitates life by quannnic and i like listening to them a lot, but i have a feeling they'd be classed as something more like shoegaze or grunge
@@raviedavieu Some good noise rock bands that come to mind are Big Black, Daughters, Lightning Bolt and Melt-Banana. But there are tons more, more and less known, that you can find out there
My girlfriend and I went to see Vomir last night. We also wore bags on our heads. There was a technical issue during his set, so he literally said, "Let's try that again." It made me think of this video.
I am a noise artist and i can tell you this is the perfect tutorial ever made. But i know a much simple method. But this is a good one! Also can i name you big metal bear?
Every Merzbow album ever. Guy can put out 10 albums every year, including the mandatory $200, limited edition 20 CD box set of unreleased material from that year.
Since you are doing smaller genres, do tonefield next. "What is tonefield?" Tonefield as a sub-genre started with people trying to guess what colorfield painting genre (check album covers for example of this painting genre) would be if it was a music genre . Those same guys decided to list the colorfield painting characteristics and use, logic, painting skills, and music theory skills to convert those characteristics to music ones. In the end the sub-genre works is basically like this: 1-Song is mono (unless its impossible like cd, then it has the exact same thing at all channels) 2- The song start with a silent part with 2 second (or more) or with a tone a tone with 2 second or more (tone must have same waveform, frequency and amplitude during its entire length) 3-Song ends or continue with with a new silent part with 2 second (or more) or with new a tone a tone with 2 second or more (tone must have same waveform, frequency and amplitude during its entire length) 4-Go back to 3. One label that has this stuff wavelength2.bandcamp.com/ There is also a positive thing about doing a episode with tonefield, almsot literallly every single tonefield song sucks ALOT, but the genre has potential to have good songs or at least a normal song. If you make a decent or normal song, it will be the first good/decent tonefield song ever.
I love making noise shit but god yeah it's mostly abunch of fucking around until I find something I enjoy. I think a lot of musicians can say the same.
Not sure why this video kept showing up in my recommended, but I decided to give it a watch and was pleasantly entertained. Thanks for the chuckle, Rowdy Beardman. Now to puruse the rest of your channel.
Comming from someone who loves Merzbow, its extremely hard to explain. Its the slow changing over time that makes it great. I find it extremely calming when my anxiety is trying to ruin me.
Now that we have the precedent: you should do Japanoise (msbr, melt-bannana), Danger Music (Justice Yeldham), Avant-Metal (Mr. Bungle, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum), and Art Rock (The Books of Knots, Melvins, Fantomas). It would be a blast seeing you make that kind of music :)
3:02 RIP Minóy. Legit one of the best dark ambient artists of the '80s and, while not actually a HNW guy, definitely one of the forerunners to The Aesthetic. Anyway, on to the video proper: I think one thing that needs to be understood with HNW is that, like Brian Eno's concept of holographic ambient music (as on albums like Neroli, Thursday Afternoon, etc.), the principle is less that it doesn't change or lacks dynamics per se as it obliterates the listener's conception of time and landmarks. You don't pick out a single part you like because the point is that it feels like it's all one endless moment where everything is happening all at once. It's a very zen kind of thing. It can also be very memey and silly, obviously, and there's a kind of perverse joy in that, particularly when you take a really dumb or weird sound source and turn it into the loudest possible sound, but there's also something to be said for creating something by trivial, absurd or innocuous means which also has that weird meditative time-stopping power to it.
I think you're the only one that understand the important thing in HNW (or any other experimental art...). You can call it music, as you can call painting a Pollock's work... but it goes far than that...
I truly believe that every single musician should have a noise solo project. It's pathetically easy as seen here so there's really no excuse not to do it, and on the positive side the simplicity makes you search for ways to produce sound that you otherwise probably wouldn't have bothered with and the fact that it's mostly just textures and dynamics makes you think more carefully about how to work with those aspects of music if you take it seriously ("how do I actually make this interesting?" seriously, not "MY ENTROPIC DARK ART IS THE ONLY PURE WORK IN THIS SHRIVELING WORLD OF CAPITALISM!" seriously).
Accurate coming from a noise artist Harsh Noise isn’t difficult to make, what makes it difficult is standing out in the bajillions of other harsh noise artists
This is exactly why I don't use a DAW for making noise. It's too easy. I use home made modular synths, guitar pedals and other junk. You got to twiddle them knobs! Also I record to a 40 year old 4-track portastudio.
Congratulations, you've finally made a "How to make" where nobody will say "wow you actually made this genre enjoyable"
Lol, yeah.
wrong, as someone that used to listen to harsh noise a lot this is actually okay. Some harsh noise artist will try to put some strong feedback that will jab your ears real hard in between whereas what Andri did here is just consistent static that is numb. So technically he does made it more enjoyable.
@@1mghd2 And there will always be "this guy". GG m8 :D
@@1mghd2 You're quite a noise sommelier, huh.
@@Miraihi off course, imma big brain.
That's the lowest high effort shitpost I've ever seen. Good work
Kmac has some of those although most of them are low effort
I laughed so hard when you named the song “Untitled” then I laughed even harder when you whispered “Perfect”.
I'm having Tera Melos flashbacks...
That's funny cause it's the true
Same
it's too accurate
Been There, Done That.
Vomir's actually a pretty normal dude. He's got a trippy guitar improv noise project and a family. Vomir (the project) is just what he does when he's feeling Nihilistic.
Reading interviews, he seems like a very funny, down-to-earth guy who sees the black humour and absurdity in what he does and really enjoys it in a slightly askew way.
That's super interesting
I have tinnitus so that means ive listened to harsh noise wall since before it was popular. You kids nowadays dont understand REAL harsh noise wall
Vomir ain’t got shit on us.
We don't even listen to hnw BY CHOICE.
We HAVE TO.
Lol
tinnnitus niggas rise up
@@EnergyChasms now that's true art
Merzbow > Vomir. I said it.
I’ll be real here, as a noise artist (yes, I said artist) and fan, I like my HNW is doses. Sometimes I will just put Merzbow on full blast and clean my whole fucking house. But for the most part, I like my harsh noise to stab at parts. Maybe I’m just more into industrial noise, I guess. Personal preferences and shit, not kink shaming anyone at all here.
For all the people asking how people can enjoy noise, I somewhat have a super flawed theory: to enjoy noise music, you have to enjoy making it. Most people I know that love noise music, are noise artists. From space drone to glitch noise to HNW. I grew up absolutely loving making sounds with anything I could get my hands on. The more abrasive, the better. I just really, really enjoy the freedom of making noise music over anything else. For me, it’s pure, raw emotional expression. And just for the record, I’m a classically trained pianist, a banjo picker, and an occasional guitarist. Also, I make hip hop beats. But noise is where my heart is.
But since I’ve said nothing about the video yet: fucking hilarious and I love it 😂 I was hoping you’d do one soon and by god, ya done did it.
Skinny Puppy were also classically trained musicians who became bored with regular music. I saw them once, but they were always my favorite since they knew how to incorporate noise into their works. I really like your attitude and want to hear some of your work.
Where can we hear your stuff ?
I agree with your theory, as a guitar player myself, I have a few pedals lying around, and I use an MXR Carbon Copy Delay to create the stabs and such. The great thing about noise is the oddly soothing nature of it, it is a lot like ambient music in that you can tune in and out of it and still get a unique experience from it. I am glad there are a lot of noise fans out there.
I'm an noise artist too and you're damn right
You can't compare artists, and very known names. Also is unneccesary to give a reason why you listen noise, every sound you listen is rostly noise though.
Noise grenade?
Be simple, call your "band" : *Flashbang*
Fuck thats actually a good band name
@Ross Orange thx mate ^^
Do Darkwave next! I want to see you in eyeliner and a frilled shirt
cant wait for him to dwelve into darkwave/industrial/ebm stuff.
@@rogerioteca it will be glorious!
karottenkoenig yes pls
I’m a noise artist, and this without being satire, is very accurate
Same
#MeToo
You mean you make noise? No need to be throwing the word “artist” around lol.
Sovereign Mind Dude, I think noise music is strange as well, but anything can be art in my eyes. But who am I kidding, I’m just a kid in a Noise/grindcore band anyway.
Sovereign Mind I look at noise as art. An artist.
Just recently had the opportunity to tour with Vomir, he's actually a pretty funny guy in real life, also, far from being pretentious, most noise people are chronic underachievers.
You forgot the most important part...release physical media, in a limited edition of five copies, recorded on mangled old C90 cassette tapes you found behind some bins.
Funny Story: Long ago I was looking for a tutorial on Noise music, and I found your Noisecore tutorial, and that's how I found out about your channel. Now you actually did a Noise music tutorial.
It's all come full circle.
why would you need a tutorial for noise?
Did you eat the mushrooms growing behind your fridge again, Andri? xD
THEY WONT STOP GROWING! MY HUNGER ISN'T POWERFUL ENOUGH!
Noise fans be like: "Oh shit, (5:31) that's heavy. Luv it."
As a Noise music fan I can confirm that this rips.
@@peanutgallery9081 Oh crap, are you *unironically* a noise fan?
@@slendervendetta6229 Hell yeah
@@peanutgallery9081 I wonder, how did it happend? I mean, how did you get into it?
@@peanutgallery9081 ward
God, when he said
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I felt that.
This isn't power electronics but it's the next best thing. Thank you, comrade.
That One Guy see power electronics is noise music but. Like could be a movie. Much more cinematic. Idk. it’s all bs
For PE just make HNW and add a guy screaming about politics or rape over the top of it.
@@The_Prenna try out late whitehouse, they moved onto more percussion oriented stuff with "Bird Seed"
@@bigblackbootycheeks420 Not enough feedback. Rhythm is good, but you need more shrieking high end.
@@saratrawnik6527 CAN YOU DO THE CHICKEN SKIN SWIM? CAN YOU DO THE CHLORINE GARGOYLE? CAN YOU WRIGGLE LIKE AN EEL?
Another another sound artist here. I've mostly worked with "someone trying to start their car without gas" noise, dark ambient and drone. But yeah, this is a pretty accurate representation of the basics of digital experimental music and sound design. 4:13 was probably my favorite part.
Also: props for you creating a "live studio" recording of your piece Untitled. Standing still for so long just for satire takes some fucking effort. The box on head, extreme frown and anime girl shirt really sold it. That's some fucking art right there.
Excellent ending track as always. I’m amazed at how you guys can balance the influence of the Japanese of masters like Merzbow and Massona without losing the edge of western artists like hunting lodge and Prurient.
I don’t actually know what I’m saying.
Ah, I remember when I hated noise music. Usually this channel follows a pattern of a series of increasingly heavy genres, so I'm kind of surprised you didn't do regular harsh noise or noise rock/metal or both before diving straight into hnw. I'd love to see you guys cover one of those genres regardless.
Now that you've got your Harsh Noise Wall album, time to make a Death Industrial album.
Just take you harsh noise wall album and play a note once in a while
Sort of. You hold the notes for a very long time and howl angry-sad lyrics about the breakup that inspired you to stare miserably at your equipment like that in the first place. Also, distorted samples of depressing foreign films.
@@ConvincingPeople Not necessarily. Some Death Industrial is rhythmical and has even sometimes melody. Listen to DRF.
@@ConvincingPeoplein a way you are right but there is death industrial with rhythm in it like for example some of atrax morgue music have rhythm in it
watched this video last year without knowing what harsh noise was. I have 6 noise projects now
Harsh noise makes me forget I have a body. It's pretty awesome.
Harsh noise makes me forget that i have a brain
Now make the big Metal Brother of Noise, Drone Doom!
Some satire of Sunn O)))? Only problem is the song needs to be at least 10 minutes long! LOL
I can't really say I "enjoy" drone metal, but it does fascinate me!
I can already imagine Andri looking at his watch for minutes until the next note hits only to wait for a few minutes again. Seriously though his take on the genre would interest me.
@@crazydud3380 You can get some really interesting Drone/ Doom, Boris is still my favorite
@@crazydud3380 You ever listened to Khanate? That will… provoke a reaction.
That probably painfull for our ears but that won't ever be as painful as my step dad belt
Well atleast the belt sounds good....
Well at least the belt had a rhythm
sample the sound of the beating, put it through 6 HM-2s that are all dimed. Add a cheap, photocopied-too-many-times photo, a purposefully offensive album name and make a 20-copy run of cassette tape with no digital release. Bam. You're a noise artist.
@@v0Xx60 that's actually a good idea!
@@madad6304 Yeah
6/4 👌
The only music genre where dumb memes about the genre have a bigger fanbase than the genre
The man himself, coming straight from the underground!
Vaporwave too
Of course
No one likes Noise Music
@@kalliboymusic Noise isn't necessarily music, in the same way field recordings or radio plays aren't, but this statement in general is also just factually incorrect. It's definitely an acquired taste, though.
@@kalliboymusic Well, Noise sure beats emo techno.
Just got to say that your "Life Motto of the Day" really touched me...........and it was non-consensual.
Hahaha I saw Vomir live. Noise actually works kinda well live. He gave bags out to wear as well.
as an actual harsh noise wall fan, this is pretty spot-on
How to enjoy a noise concert: TAKE DRUGS.
its bad idea .. trust me
@@ViedenskaKava drugs are never a bad idea.
Blake Curtis yes i know lol. But at HN gig its bad idea. (If u lova bad trips, just do it)
It's very visceral stuff. I dig it perfectly sober.
P.S. I only listen to it live, it's boring when at home
Ever accidentally changed the channel of your TV to a blank channel at full volume while tripping?
I once made Harsh noise wall in Logic Pro by taking some stock guitar and drum samples , putting them together on a loop and speeding them up to a maximum.
So, acording to Volmir definition, it's safe to say that Harsh Noise Wall is just an Emo Band where no one can play any instrument.
"I like my music to have layers of complexity... and it's just someone trying to start their car without gas." Never felt more called out in my life.
It's easy to pump out shitty noise music but there are projects that really are mind-bending and cool. And noise is even bleeding to the mainstream lately, in hip hop with Dalek or clipping, electronic artists like Sophie and black dresses, noise rock is getting pretty popular too. It's easy to cross out the bare raw experimentation at first glance but it really has a lot to offer if you can get past the snobby exterior
Agustín Videla Great comment, though the only part I’m not so sure of is that noise bleeding into all these genres is something “lately”, at least if what you mean to say is that it’s a new development.. I mean, yes, you are correct, but I’d only point out that it’s something that’s been going on for a while. Maybe it’s more popular now? I’m not sure, bc I can think of a lot of artists who were doing it a couple decades ago, and they weren’t nobodies, some even were on major labels and making quite violent cacophonies.. I’ll at least give you one thing regarding “lately”, and that’s it does seem like use of noise, especially harsher noise, has increased significantly over the last decade, particularly in hip hop and “pop music” (where it’s existed in various ways for a while, but not to the extent and degree it does now, definitely).
Still, all this said, noise/white noise being used in genres that aren’t just noise obviously isn’t harsh noise, wall noise, etc.. and I think one could have a harder time arguing what’s the chicken or the egg, aka, was white noise used in other formats/genres first, or used as it’s own “dark ambient aesthetic” of noise first (probably not how any early artist utilizing it would like to be characterized), or just as a means of exploring texture with sound, etc, as many early electronic pioneers were interested in, and it just evolved from there? Since I was a teenager (so for almost exactly 20 years of my life) I became very interested in actually tracing all the lines and lineages in modern, western music, to the extent that one can, and your comment has really put my mind back in this space, but now of wondering how harsh noise evolved from white noise, how and when it interacted with disparate genres, whether or not it can even be directly connected to “drone music” as a “progression”, or if that’s just silly (drone is, after all, multiple millennia old, and played by our ancestors, and still played in various tribes/ethnic folk traditions)....
I’m sorry I’m rambling, and now completely disconnected from your original point, but it was your comment that got me thinking back through all the popular and underground iteration of “noise music” that I’m aware of, and it’s made me wonder where this *really* started.. which I know is separate from your point, which again, I mostly agree. Lol..
I’ll digress ffs.. cheers ✌️♾
Well, the video is a satire to harsh noise. But yeah, on fact noise has been a part of music for a pretty long time, velvet underground experimented with it, the Jesus and Mary chain were noise pop on their first album, sonic youth always played noise pop/rock, show me the body uses a lot of noise. The thing is, we've got to understand harsh noise as sound art and experimentation, not an actual genere
LINK ME MIND-BENDING NOISE TRACKS PLS AND THANK
I'm interested in finding out about noise rock but not very sure yet what it sounds like based on my own research, can someone give me their recommendations too if they're familiar with the genre?? I guess i know songs like Royal Blue Walls by Jane Remover, or stick and life imitates life by quannnic and i like listening to them a lot, but i have a feeling they'd be classed as something more like shoegaze or grunge
@@raviedavieu Some good noise rock bands that come to mind are Big Black, Daughters, Lightning Bolt and Melt-Banana. But there are tons more, more and less known, that you can find out there
My girlfriend and I went to see Vomir last night. We also wore bags on our heads. There was a technical issue during his set, so he literally said, "Let's try that again." It made me think of this video.
Life imitates shitty UA-cam videos.
"Vomir"means "to Puke" in French.
So yeah...
i like noise, because i like noise. no social commentary, it's just neat!
Even as a fan of noise music, this video is one of the best things i've ever seen
I laughed way too hard when you opened reaper and an actual song started playing.
3:24 my boy rocking a K-On! t-shirt.
I get excited whenever this channel uploads, thank you for the content
I am a noise artist and i can tell you this is the perfect tutorial ever made. But i know a much simple method. But this is a good one! Also can i name you big metal bear?
I am a man of many nicknames. sure!
Artist?
Link me to some of your stuff, 0motig0!
@@matzegehtdichnixan6768 Usless Edge. But its minimal drone noise ambient.
i think the "easiest" would be to record an FM radio tuned to not a station. If wanted, you could amplify that a bit.
I do unironically love harsh noise wall as it's just an unending void to get lost in.
The real question is how does Vomir not suffocate with a bag over his head
There's holes on it
"How do have a good time in those places?"
you wander round until someone sells you acid.
Love this channel since I stumbled upon it. I didn't even know this existed. Now I wanna find actual harsh noise festivals
I just found this randomly and it's just... Beautiful. I literally instantly subscribed after the Mic joke.
another favorite. Im actually a noise/experimental artist, so this is really touching here :D
Every Merzbow album ever. Guy can put out 10 albums every year, including the mandatory $200, limited edition 20 CD box set of unreleased material from that year.
Would love to see a "How to Danger music" from you guys
Sound like my dreams
*When i dream about the dark one*
As a maker of Hash Noise, I can confirm that this is 100% accurate.
Since you are doing smaller genres, do tonefield next.
"What is tonefield?"
Tonefield as a sub-genre started with people trying to guess what colorfield painting genre (check album covers for example of this painting genre) would be if it was a music genre .
Those same guys decided to list the colorfield painting characteristics and use, logic, painting skills, and music theory skills to convert those characteristics to music ones.
In the end the sub-genre works is basically like this:
1-Song is mono (unless its impossible like cd, then it has the exact same thing at all channels)
2- The song start with a silent part with 2 second (or more) or with a tone a tone with 2 second or more (tone must have same waveform, frequency and amplitude during its entire length)
3-Song ends or continue with with a new silent part with 2 second (or more) or with new a tone a tone with 2 second or more (tone must have same waveform, frequency and amplitude during its entire length)
4-Go back to 3.
One label that has this stuff wavelength2.bandcamp.com/
There is also a positive thing about doing a episode with tonefield, almsot literallly every single tonefield song sucks ALOT, but the genre has potential to have good songs or at least a normal song. If you make a decent or normal song, it will be the first good/decent tonefield song ever.
Dude UNTITLED is my fucking jam! About 47 minutes and 28 seconds in is the best part by far!
2:54: What all of us artists are privately thinking.
nobody:
description:
“music used:”
DREAMCRUSHER is the greatest noise artist to ever do it
I think the wobbling (maybe?) and the fade-out at the end where fucking inspired. Really made me live in a society. 11/10 would listen aGAIN.
2:34 Andri is a Once confirmed (twice fan, the art there is the poster for twice - fancy you)
"A literal consistent, unflinching and enveloping wall of monolithic noise."
... Ah! Just like the UA-cam Trending section! 😆😆😆
The first genre I started to go through after getting my first synthesizer was noise. I absolutely love the scenery.
Idk why but I seriously busted out laughing after you said let's open this pit up *angry harsh noise intensifies*
I actually like some noise,but this video is awesomely funny.
Everybody now:
"Ooh I'm a musician and I'm not ok,
I cry to sleep every single day."
I love making noise shit but god yeah it's mostly abunch of fucking around until I find something I enjoy. I think a lot of musicians can say the same.
Never thought I'd see a guy with a K-On! shirt and an angry-looking box making noise music 😂 nice work!
Me: yo pass me the aux cord
Friend: you better not play trash
Me:
Magnificent. I did not know this very interesting genre
Here in Phoenix Arizona we have a monthly noise meet aptly named Operation Noise Toaster.
I'm loving this fat-cute guy!
He seems so lovely and really funny.
I believe he deserves atleast 10 times subscribers more that it.
Not sure why this video kept showing up in my recommended, but I decided to give it a watch and was pleasantly entertained. Thanks for the chuckle, Rowdy Beardman. Now to puruse the rest of your channel.
Comming from someone who loves Merzbow, its extremely hard to explain. Its the slow changing over time that makes it great. I find it extremely calming when my anxiety is trying to ruin me.
Harsh noise wall literally never changes merzbow always changes the noise the tracks make
I know it was a small thing, but your joke about rendering the entire universe made me laughchoke on my breakfast. Great video.
pagefire uploads a new video. Today was a great day
Thank you for introducing me to real noise music. I am tired of that Merzbow noisepop.
Noisepop?
@@kalliboymusic
It was a joke....
@@yerodin1840 Ah ok
I'm not into noise music world so that's why i was curious lmao
funny joke also noisepop is more so artists like the rapper sematary who samples black metal and other stuff
Now that we have the precedent: you should do Japanoise (msbr, melt-bannana), Danger Music (Justice Yeldham), Avant-Metal (Mr. Bungle, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum), and Art Rock (The Books of Knots, Melvins, Fantomas). It would be a blast seeing you make that kind of music :)
3:02 RIP Minóy. Legit one of the best dark ambient artists of the '80s and, while not actually a HNW guy, definitely one of the forerunners to The Aesthetic.
Anyway, on to the video proper: I think one thing that needs to be understood with HNW is that, like Brian Eno's concept of holographic ambient music (as on albums like Neroli, Thursday Afternoon, etc.), the principle is less that it doesn't change or lacks dynamics per se as it obliterates the listener's conception of time and landmarks. You don't pick out a single part you like because the point is that it feels like it's all one endless moment where everything is happening all at once. It's a very zen kind of thing. It can also be very memey and silly, obviously, and there's a kind of perverse joy in that, particularly when you take a really dumb or weird sound source and turn it into the loudest possible sound, but there's also something to be said for creating something by trivial, absurd or innocuous means which also has that weird meditative time-stopping power to it.
I think you're the only one that understand the important thing in HNW (or any other experimental art...). You can call it music, as you can call painting a Pollock's work... but it goes far than that...
Nobody-
That one guy in the discord call- *harsh noise*
The anime shirt sums this guy up
Honestly the first video where i wasn't pumped up by how good they can make the songs
Well... Vomir played all over the world, including Berghain in Berlin. It was an amazing show.
Wowee! This is great! I love harsh noise wall! Thanks for my career!
I hope there's a dude one day that'll make "bassnoise" as a genre in which you literally play around with a distorted 808s for an hr
I mean i listen to some weird shit, i.e. Splittercore and Extratone, but god damn this genre is just depressing.
Yes. That is the point.
I listen to all kinds of Experimental music but i don't understand the appeal on Wall Noise.
Indeed
@@Roncstelep_ Me neither
I truly believe that every single musician should have a noise solo project. It's pathetically easy as seen here so there's really no excuse not to do it, and on the positive side the simplicity makes you search for ways to produce sound that you otherwise probably wouldn't have bothered with and the fact that it's mostly just textures and dynamics makes you think more carefully about how to work with those aspects of music if you take it seriously ("how do I actually make this interesting?" seriously, not "MY ENTROPIC DARK ART IS THE ONLY PURE WORK IN THIS SHRIVELING WORLD OF CAPITALISM!" seriously).
4:09 him screaming “ART” is the funniest thing in this whole series, change my mind
Accurate coming from a noise artist
Harsh Noise isn’t difficult to make, what makes it difficult is standing out in the bajillions of other harsh noise artists
when i saw Sewer Election live, they blew me away
I went to a harsh noise show once. My left ear is damaged. The dude turned the PA like all the way up and my ears rang for 2 days after
This is exactly why I don't use a DAW for making noise. It's too easy. I use home made modular synths, guitar pedals and other junk. You got to twiddle them knobs! Also I record to a 40 year old 4-track portastudio.
Noise Pop is Noise plus pop music- basically singing over noise.
this might be my favorite "how to make" video youve done!
That actually sounds very good I really like that a lot
I love his wallpaper in every video
Vomir is literally "to vomit" in French.
Lol
I see Harsh Noise Wall when I close my eyes.
love your videos! they are great! much love from texas
Next is death doom!
I love your angry box head.
It totally fits with the genre.
All my Industrial-Songs named "untitled". Good Job. :D
Do I really need a DAW? Dude that sounds perfectly doable in like *Audacity*
You can make Harsh Noise just using a simple oscillator wave machine