What is XCOM Long War? It's not a bad time to find out.
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2015
- Long War is a fantastic mod for XCOM: Enemy Unknown/Within and Chris thinks you might want to give it a whirl.
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Long war modders got hired to help make the second game. And I'm here just downloading the long war just now lol.
Really?
@@torotthamutal xcom 2 war of the chosen Cough
The modders formed their own company. So cool.
I don't think xcom 2 was made by modders.wasnot xcom made by firaxis
@@psychomantis7635 You need a reading comprehension mod.
I'm in this! I play one of the Scottish voices that got added back in August. I haven't played it yet but I want to create myself in game and see how long I can keep myself from dying.
To think that Firaxis actually added a fatigue feature in XCOM 2: War of the Chosen, but not in the vanilla itself makes me wonder "have they completely forgot about that feature in Long War or have they planned that?"
That moment when you have your good soldiers in fatigue, so you choose the better of the bad soldiers and train them through missions, to actually become good
Its so worth it I remember playing a terror mission fighting both aliens and exalt at the same time while trying to save civillians...
When your guy gets gravely wounded and he needs 40 days to recover lol
Wilbur Jenkins When its your best infantry.
You try to walk off 10 bulelt wounds
Don't forget its freaking ALIEN WEAPONRY
best part of Long War by far is the largest army
and actually, I found it more personal in that... in EU, you basically had probably 7-8 soldiers you actually leveled and cared about, and another 3-10 that... you basically never knew, or only pretended to care about. Almost like a regular RPG like FF Tactics - big army but you basically just use the same 5-6 people.
Long War though you have genuine reasons to care the most in the same way about your 5 or so best heroes... but you also begin to care about the other 15-20 people too!
+Sino Deutsch Then you add the unique name list and bam, no more unreadable names or clones.
@@SpyzacFilms Tay Tay Swift and Elvis Presley will lead my troops in battle
Watching this having played XCOM 2, it's funny how many of the quality-of-life changes this mod made were put into XCOM 2. Like the Enemy Overwatch HUD symbol, and the brief mission description at the loadout screen.
Devs inspire community, community inspires Devs. Pretty cool!
I found this mod the day before yesterday, I installed it and started her up. Wow is this hard I failed miserably! :D This is one of the best developed mods I have ever played, and I've played loads these days. So glad you made this video, its like you been watching me! :o
IM4CH1NE Ha, that would be CRAZY! -Chris
Your hair looks lovely today, by the way.
IM4CH1NE Hey, my advice for the Long War; focus on rushing the Arc Thrower (I assume you've played XCom:EW). You need to get it up ASAP in order to capture aliens earlier that just simply get too hard later on to get. You can also start getting requests for sectoid bodies which will help your reaserch.
Man Of Answers Nice advice cheers man.
Eurogamer Me no Sempai! lol
IM4CH1NE And can you believe there are people that still find long war too easy. Even on normal it's a pain. On impossible with ironman ... your death is inevitable. :P
Unless your really goddamn good.
and now the same team made a Grand Strategy version of this
What’s it called?
@@peteyprimo7173 Terra Invicta
2024, downloading the mod, excited to make a series!
Long war is awesome, I've been playing it since the EU version and simply cannot go back to vanilla XCOM anymore. Do yourself a favor and start on easiest difficulty though, LW can get incredibly brutal even for experienced players.
I've ended up restarting pretty often just to get through the game once. Ironman is definitely not a great idea for your first time, developing the skills to succeed takes some time.
I had bought Xcom on the console now I just bought it on the PC just for this mod :)
Great stuff Chris. I miss the xcom and rts videos on videogamer.
As someone who likes perfect games where you can keep all countries. I hate the fact that randomness forces you either to lose 1 country or 3 in the hardest difficulty. Lack of control and rng on thing but that you can't retake a country? That was kinda bs, this mod fixed that.
I only got Long War to have another mod in play, but with this there was so much more that I WASN"T expecting that I'm fine using ling war, though I wish the number of enemies was taken down another notch or made easier to adjust in the config file....
Ive noy played the xcom titled games. But i have played Xenonauts (essentially part of xcom family) and i played the main game all the way through. I discovered that there was a mod called "X-Divison" and it was compared LOT to Long War. Having played a good chunk of xdivision and watching this video. I can say thats not wrong. I have had to play mostly on the easiest of four levels of difficulty because its such a brutal game. But i love it quite a lot. Same things happen with ufos being near impossible to beat early game and the ground fights being that much harder. I also made the mistake of only having one team (though xdivison doesnt have fatigue mechanics) and its very common to lose soldiers. I had an entire team wiped and lost three countries trying to get another team again.
In short. Long war sounds amazing and if you have played xenonauts and finished it, Try the Xdivision mod.
Long War? Gave that up when I ran into the chrysalids with lightning reflexes a,k,a terror incarnate. Shudder. Brilliant mod though.
G Oh yeah, those will wreck a squad real fast.
G Shudders at the mere thought. I've always detested those blue buggers and imagining upgrades on them makes me shiver.
MaJuV Ha yeah, you should get a load of the chrysalid momma... holy crap. First time I saw it my mouth dropped open.
To everyone trying out long war mod... I find suppression on as many soldiers as you can is critical to success in battle. Advance your suppression soldiers first so they can lock down anything they encounter allowing the rest of your squad to safely get into position for shots. It also protects the entire squad from the aliens turn return fire which is usually only at 1%-4% chance to hit while they're suppressed. Don't flank them until your ready for the kill shot or they will try to move out of suppression on their next turn.
I find suppressing saucers is superior to disabling shot as they are very unlikely to use their grenade o death while suppressed vs likely to use it if their main gun is disabled. I believe the range limitation on grenades while suppressed is the reason.
Eeeek... I suddenly want to know it, but at the same time I just don't want to encounter it ever as well :-P
And yes, I'm trying the mod out myself now. And it sure is challenging. Not the first time I hear about Suppression being good in this version. I'll keep it in mind.
G Lightning reflexes is ez to deal I find, just move out of their first movement range and let them close in! But with that said, the true terror perk that chrysalids get that makes this difficult is when they get "Sprinter" (with lightning reflexes of course), then omg... when those 80% shots miss and or don't kill... Well, Hope you've brought your chitin plating kids because here comes chris the chrysalid to poke you!
2:29 you think that i didn't notice those BSG references right there buddy??
Some of the features in Long War sound like they bring back some of what made the original 1994 X-Com: UFO Defense (Enemy Unknown in UK) so much fun.
While you still can't put as many soldiers in a team as you could in the original (I think it was a max of 14 on the skyranger), the countries leaving the organization and alien bases are straight out of the original. Also you had to deal with fatigue, however in the 1994 game you could use a person multiple times but if they didn't get some rest they would be more prone to panic attacks.
That's not true at all, you can use your soldiers on all the missions you want as long as they don't get wounded, if they get wounded, then you can't use your soldier from 4 days all the way to 1 month.
what are some of the features from original ufo defense being implemented in long war mod? can someone list it here because I could find it even on ufopedia..
Is there a version of this that works on the app version of the game?
ive never played xcom before but i want to play this mod , should i play some vanilla first or go straight and install this ?
+emmathepony Play vanilla first, this mod makes the game way harder.
+SuperKratosgamer can confirm this, I started with LW. However, I kinda enjoyed the challange.
+emmathepony I'd say play with the Long War mod first playthrough with the second wave options that make it easier and shorter.
As a shitty player who more or less handiliy beat both xcom EU/EW and now xcom 2 and Long War just makes me it's bitch lol.
Always loved this mod, it brings back the old game flavor while still adding life-improving things, like visual hints as you said, not to mention they really added their own stuff.
I'm currently doing an impossibile ironman run, when I'm done with it, I'll download "The Long Run" right away
Did you die impossibly ?
150 hours? Oh Bratterz...
emmathepony: I Can't reply directly to you for some reason but I have played Long War extensively and would highly recommend playing vanilla xcom first before jumping into Long War. Even on the easiest settings LW is far more difficult than vanilla xcom and frustration may ruin the experience for you.
Question can you play the game inf lol or will you at some point force to lose
I was excited to try it but after actually playing it was is just too tedious for me I would like some lighter mods just a couple of tweaks but this one just overshadowed every other mod everyone else just gave up on making something different.
Should i start this mod or play vanilla version. New to this sequel
Relying on a small core troop? I never do that, not even on normal - old 1994 XCOM taught me that. Mind you I never lost a soldier (this is a game where you save regularly) but injuries happen, and you need to have several teams ready to go. Besides, once you levelled someone up to the max, what's the point of going on missions? They need to step back and let the rookies have a shot - maybe 1-2 veterans to help them out but that's all. Not to mention how it makes everything a bigger challenge that way. :)
Love that you just have the entire Battlestar Galactica cast as your soldiers lol
I love that the soldiers are named after BSG characters.
Shoutout to all BSG fans!
still loving this game nd xcom 2 long war 2
They don't have this on switch.
Sad though 😢
best review for a game is i doubt that i will ever complete the longwar campaing, that phrase made me play the game.
What do you think of the Long War Rebalance on Nexus? Is it worth it?
is there a way to turn it off/on because some times i just want to play the base game
Un- and reinstall the game, after uninstallling LW.
besides a complete reinstall
*shrugs shoulders*
oh well, i have to prepare myself for long war by beating impossible ironman mode fist
Make a copy of your XEW folder and rename it to XEW Backup or something then install the mod on the original XEW folder. If you want to switch back to vanilla just rename the folders.
should i use this mod in my first playthrough ?
no.
You should at least play a good half of the original XCOM campaign so you have a handle on the mechanics. Long War is intended for veteran players.
yes
Recently finished Classic LW Bronze man.
Just started a Brutal campaign. Can't wait to get smacked around.
I played it before finishing the base game (having gone through multiple failed campaigns on the fantastic mobile port of Enemy Within), and I still found it approachable, albeit brutally difficult. The mod doesn't fuck around, but it's a very fair and well-balanced experience with ludicrous depth.
its so close to xcom 2 is remarkable
I'm new to this game and I'm really enjoying it. How do I get these mods everyone is talking about?
Long war has been a headache for me so far. I see enemies fire 25% hit shots multiple times and 1 bar my troops fresh ready to train and mine will be flanking and have 86 to 94% and miss more often than the enemy I feel thats so rigged XD its heartbreaking watching a rookie miss a 94% shot only to get one tapped next turn and it was the last enemy on the map before end of mission. ugh.
so should i finish the original game before installing long war?
+David Greene Very much yes.
+David Greene
I'd recommend beating it at least once.
To anyone reading this, yes, you'd probably hate Long War if you don't beat vanilla first and aren't too familiar with these kind of games.
Beat the game two times at least... Just to know the aliens.
I"M too much of a coward to try classic...i just ugh. whoever says vinilla is easy is a lier.
Downloaded 5 days before the release of Xcom2, I'm definitely not going to be able to finish; the 1st mission was a pain in the ass, 10 sectoids on the dam level with a load of full cover for them, and no room to flank them
+ReissyBoi97 It's an uphill battle, don't give up and if you lose a whole squad it's not the end. You're expected to.
Never give up! Never surrender!
Best mod ever made
should i play this or vanilla
First Vanilla and then LW
Yea did that already. Not a huge difference
Okay, so *this* is why XCOOM 2 is so god damn complicated.
I have no idea how to download this.... I don't see any buttons to click at all on the nexus website.
Best mod Iv played gotta shoot the dev mods some coin.
The first time I played xcom, I found it kinda repetitive and boring. This mod makes the game good, and I cant belive some of this stuff isnt in the vanilla game, its just fucking ESSENTIAL to have the ability to choose more than one (primary) weapon to give to a solider, or to describe the battle area so you know what classes to bring, etc
+Victor Gavrilovici My only gripe is that there far to many missions, or that they are often too cramped I mean, sometimes I get over 3 ufo crashes in a single day with a 2 day counter on a covert op and then probably an abduction in less than a week, it gets tiring to not progress on any of your research or getting closer to shinier toys after sitting for hours of gameplay. Otherwise it's amazing how much depth Long War adds.
+Gotou canario True, true
I think it’s good you could make up separate teams like blue team alpha witch u could use on different mission like stealth or defensive an attack
I immediately installed this mod without any experience on XCOM. Now I feel like I got fucked so bad and feel so lost. Somebody save me.
Don't worry, we all sucked at first :P
If u want to get better, I recommend 1.) playing the original game first (EU or EW w/out the mod; preferably EW). It might be hard to get used to after the mod, but as Solomon said, it's like a 20 hr tutorial, so u can learn the basics and mechanics. 2.) You should watch someone who's really good- I would try Beaglerush. He's the foremost streamer of Xcom, and also has multiple UA-cam playthroughs. One of the best out there, see what he does, and how it's different than what you do. I know I significantly improved from doing that! 3.) if there's anything else you're wondering about, go to the Xcom subreddit. They're all focusing on Xcom 2 for the most part, but they're usually helpful, and someone will probably help.
Good luck- you'll need it :)
HiTechnic Well, I actually did push through on playing with the mod, all I can say is, thank god for a save and reload option hahah. And I tend to take an hour most of the time to complete a single mission. Shit's hard.
It's probably better to play original first, but if you are enjoying it as it is then don't mind me in the least.
Gotou canario I'd hardly say I'm enjoying it since it's hella hard lol but winning a tough mission gives me a good feeling.
TheOfficialNar I get you lol.
A good mod, but so fucking infuriarating. I think they went a little too far in difficulty, and on top of that when I keep missing 80 90% shots (classic Xcom) and they keep killing me in full cover and under suppresion, it is just not fun anymore. I am pretty sure I can complete it eventually but it is not worth it imo.
Dang. This makes me wish I had got the PC version instead.
+WorldWalker128 You can still get it and it goes on sale pretty regularly now. It's also not that resource intensive so you don't have to worry about having some kind of monster PC to play it.
I was very hyped for long war, but I was rather disapointed about the difficulty. Since this mod is very popular I am aware that this difficulty is possible, but I now started on normal and keep loosing a great deal of my team in the first 3 missions. Aliens landing critical death shots mostly on every 2. shot while having an accuracy rating of under 50% and while my soldier is covered, and I keep missing targets with a accuracy rating of over 80% while they are in clear sight. Am I doing something wrong? That isn´t much of a challenge, but rather just unfair. I was hyped for up to 50 aliens on one map not for "this".
My soldiers can die in peace if they could not have done better, but not if they got cheated over. Tell me what I have done wrong please. I´ve now started over for the 20th time, but keep loosing over half of my team on a regular basis no matter what i am doing.
the key is (i play on impossible) to think as if every enemy shot will hit.
as a result u should not get shot by enemies and stay out of their vision whenever possible
hope this helped
cheers
TheLevko1 Easier said than done if there are mostly 10-20 enemies on a map minimum.
20?! On even impossible u dont get more than 8-10
+TheLevko1 maybe he activated all the pods thinking it's gonna be okay.... what could go wrong, right? RIGHT?!
+TheLevko1 maybe he activated all the pods thinking it's gonna be okay.... what could go wrong, right? RIGHT?!
So another words this is more like the original XCOM. I want a bigger army, I want "more". I can't be growing personal attachments to the troops.
I just bought the game during a sale, but im not sure if i shold install this mod as a newbie. Well, i watched a lets play of it, but, still...
Only 20 hours?
will Long War be on PS4. Xcom 2 is one of the best games I've ever played
Sweet dreams 😆
Big fan of XCOM.
In relation to long war, I've seen what you have to do to install this mod, what a nightmare, you'd thought you didn't need a degree in computer sciences to utilize this mod?
Press a button and it should do everything for you!
Anthony Franken The mod was easy to install my dude, what are you talking about?
Battlestar fan perhaps? Lol
Spud Guilty. -Chris
Eurogamer how do the gaius baltar look like? does 6 distract him in the middle of battle? :D
No, His brother widow and her 3 bastards kill him.
Terra Invicta
Basically Long War manages to take a lot of what was cut from the original X-COM and brings it back.
Including the difficulty. I've never finished XCOM, any of them, but I feel right at home with Long War and actually like it more than the basic game because the game gives you a longer play time so you're able to actually get more attached to your campaign and, more importantly, are given room for way more strategy than ever before.
The original XCOM was more for the absurdity and customization: the attachment to specific units. Long War is about attachment to the entire campaign.
You XCOM fans like my profile pic :D
Guess what...
I did not lose in one, but the script in the end apear me loosing even if I was an xcom expert that did not lose a batlle etc etc...
I might lose in 2 though, I don't know yet...
I love this game, the developers, the community, I just hoped it had to open scenarios, win and loose...
Also, why they don't let us create custom scemarios/battles and play?
You know what I mean, skirmish mode, exhibition mode how you want to say it...
What if I want to play a batlle that is just me and 40 crysalids...
It would be interesting if they had that futeure on xcom 2 but they missed the opportunity!
If I was playing unknown on PC I would install the small but I’m an Xbox player for life that’s how I experienced my first XCOM game and I’m sticking with it
wow. time to reinstall xcom
added on nexus mods 04/01/2013
Eurogamer, please....
Ragna Rock It's still in development, actually. The most recent update being uploaded about four days ago ;) -Chris
Ragna Rock do one
Eurogamer Also I'd like to point out that the Enemy Unknown version of this mod is much older than the one for Enemy Within and wasn't developed further when they switched to EW. The different weapon types, for example, aren't in the old version IIRC.
Just so that people don't get confused if they try it out with EU and it's not looking like in the video :)
Download confirmed.
3:30 i may have lost a few more of you there.
BRO YOU GOT ME i played xcom 1 without mods and didn't knew about it once i finished 2 i will replay 1 with a fuckton of mods.
And Long war will be the first ill add.
this mod all it does is throw me back
No doubt... I hate XCOM
i saw long war and thought it was a 40k mod lol
death
Fatigued 4 days? Soldiers gettin lazy eh
*That's* what a mod should be.
am i the only one that beat xcom 1 on my first try without save scumming
i really wish that they remastered xcom 1 instead of rushing out xcom 2 because xcom 2 has a ton of serious bugs that they never fixed.
Meh? Fatigue? Managing a huge army? Literally NOBODY asked for that. With these and the other stuff, they're making it needlessly hard. And that's the polar opposite of hard.
Some of us aren't exactly that skilled in the first place.
It's a mod, not in the base game, if you don't like it, don't play it and stick to Vanilla or don't play XCOM2: War of the Chozen
And some people like to feel pain in planning or strategy games, more the complexity and details, more the fun
This mod is piece of unplayable shit for masochists! Sure, it brings a lot of new essential options and items to the game, but at the same time makes it unplayable by drastically reducing the chances of our soldiers to hit (so despite the increase in the number of units, nothing changes, because the opponents are now much more and are much more dangerous), and from the beginning putting challenges unplayable to the player.
Example:
I start play with this mod. I finisht first, mandatory mission and I was transferred to the base screen. After doing a few things, I started scanning. The game detected a large UFO in my area that I tried to intercept. result? four lost fighters (each could with stand two hits before it was destroyed) in seven approaches (load game).
This mod brings a lot things what should be in vanilla game, becasue are so obvious, and I don't understand why developers don't done. But all of thse good things are nothing in the face of all this rage furygenous stuff.
this mod sucks hard, because is very hard, and is not for everyone, PS: the story of xcom 2 was we lost the war, and you want me to play long war???????????????????????
+Michael Thorton so you are saying this mod sucks because you suck at game and can t handle it ?
lol
yep, lol